1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: These politicians just won't let me leave them alone. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: You don't leave them alone either, I really try, though. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think about with Diego, how many times 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: have we been like we're done with this and then 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: he goes out and like insults us or does something 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: stupid or whatever. Like these people will just not let 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: me leave them alone, no matter how much. Ever, in 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: every fiber of my being, I want to be nothing 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: but done with them. 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: Okay. 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: So the Lieutenant Governor Micah Beck with he went on 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: with Hammer and Nigel yesterday, and if you notice, for 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: the past week, basically both on social media and here 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: on these airwaves, I haven't mentioned the guy, and I'd 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: done that. I talked to quite a few people over 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: the past week or so before that, and I'm just. 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: Sick of him. I'm just sick of the whole thing. 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: And look, I want to preface what we're about to 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: talk about by setting some things up for people, okay, 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: because I think sometimes people they get into the show 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: and the entertainment aspect of it and may sometimes lose track, 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: especially with me, that I am a real person. There 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: is a real person behind what you hear every day 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: I have I've gotten no joy whatsoever. Out of what 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: has gone down with me and Micah, it has crushed me. 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: Micah was an integral part of my life for basically 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: four years. I considered Mike at one point, at least 28 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: in my mind, he was one of the people I 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: was closest to. 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: He was one of my best friends probably, and. 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: Because of that, I allowed things to go on, both 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: things that we saw on this radio program, things we 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: saw publicly and things I saw personally that I never 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: would have tolerated with any other politician for months, because 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: in my mind I kept justifying it. In my mind, 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: I kept saying, yeah, but and despite and really most 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: of it comes down to him not telling the truth, 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: him not leveling with people, him not being straight with people, 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: him outright lying about things. And finally I had a 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: conversation and this is actually a conversation with somebody who 41 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: Micah knows very well and has been around for many, 42 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: many many times, and bi all accounts he thinks very 43 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: highly this person. Because I was struggling with this, like 44 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: how do I handle this? And finally this person told 45 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: me something that really registered with me. And this is 46 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: basically about the time we had to just cut him off. 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: They said, if it were any other person, if for 48 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: any other politician, would you be treating them the way 49 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: you're treating Micah? And I thought about it for I 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: said answers no, and they said, then you can't do 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: it anymore. Your job, the thing you do, the reason 52 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: people trust you is because you hold all of these 53 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: people accountable. And if you're not going to hold him 54 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: to the same standard you hold everybody else, then you 55 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: might as well just pack it up, dude, hypocrisy, right, 56 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: And I said, you're absolutely right. And so for the 57 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: past two months, three months, whatever it's been now, I 58 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: have been doing the thing that I actually told Mike 59 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: I was going to do when he got elected wohild 60 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: is treat him like every single other politician, hold the 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: same level of account that I hold every single other politician. 62 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: He claimed he wanted it. I mean, it's obvious now 63 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: he really didn't. But that's what I do every single day. 64 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: And it breaks my heart to have to do it 65 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: because I wanted mikea so badly, Casey, you know, we 66 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: hate all these people, and I so badly wanted him 67 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: to be the one guy that was different. I so 68 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: badly wanted to believe what he was saying when he 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: was running and the time that I had spent around him, 70 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: that he was going to be different, that he was 71 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: going to stand up for the people, that he was 72 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: going to fight the battles that needed to be fought. 73 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: And it just simply hasn't happened. He just simply isn't 74 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: that person. He's just another politician. He's just another guy. 75 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: And so before we talk about all this stuff, because 76 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: it's all Rob's doing this for ratings. Rob's at the BABA. 77 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: We don't need Micah for our ratings. We were number 78 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: one way before Micah will be number one after Micah. 79 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: You tune in for a whole swath of reasons that 80 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with Micah beck With. We could 81 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: make two kids play in a park entertaining. We don't 82 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: need Micah beck With or a feud or a made 83 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: up feud. This has broken my heart to have to 84 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: go through this, but my obligation is always to you. 85 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: And if there are people out there who people I 86 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: have been friends with THEE for years now, we're mad 87 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: at me, It's fine. Gotta look myself in the mirror. 88 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: Gott to look myself in the mirror. So I want 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: to touch on that. Okay, before we get to hammer 90 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: in Nigel, I want to talk about these town halls 91 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: for a second, if that's all right, because this he 92 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: was on yesterday. 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: Now. 94 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: They did a fabulous job with this interview. If you 95 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: haven't listened to it, go back and listen the whole thing. 96 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: We're all play some clips coming up here in a second, 97 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: because there's some stuff we have to address. But the 98 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: town halls are I think an important insight into the 99 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: whole micah m O, because for those of you who don't know, 100 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: I think most people do by now. 101 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: He had a town hall. He goes around the state. 102 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: It's set up in a Charlie Kirk type fashion where 103 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: there's a what, there's a loud speaker right, and somebody 104 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: has a microphone. And I mean, look, Charlie Kirk's his hero, 105 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: and he wants to be Charlie Kirk, and that's. 106 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: Why he set this up the way it is. 107 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: And he had a town hall in Warwick County and 108 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: there were some people there who are totally nuts and 109 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: got totally out of control. And those people were ultimately 110 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: arrested and it sounds like they should have been. 111 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: And that's a good thing. 112 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: When you go to an event with the government official, 113 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: we always tell you, we always tell you be loud, right, 114 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: be intense, but you got follow the laws. You can't 115 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: be you know, you can't be violent with people. You 116 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: can't be causing a disturbance. You have to operate in 117 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: inside the confines of decent society. The problem with these 118 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: town halls is that that's what Micah wants. 119 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: Well, we always say we want them to be transparent, 120 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: and here is a statewide elected official who is going 121 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: out and engaging with constituents. 122 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: But he's not. He's doing this for himself. Those people 123 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: because they can't control themselves. They gave him exactly what 124 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: he wanted. He is all over the news, which is 125 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: what he craves, which is attention, because of the way 126 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: they behaved. They gave him exactly what they wanted. And 127 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: here's how I know. He's been doing these town halls 128 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: for what six months now? Right, Basically he pretty much 129 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: started them as soon as he got elected. But will 130 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: we'll err on the side of caution and say six 131 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: months in the six months because he says, I'm here 132 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: to listen to you, right, I'm here to get feedback Okay. 133 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: First of all, he has no power, he has no 134 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: ability to make a law right, So it's like ridiculous 135 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: that he's supposedly out on this listening tour. I've seen 136 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the townhos that watch them live stream. Most of the 137 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: townholls are not him listening. It's him fighting with people, 138 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: which is what he wants. He's trying to get viral moments. 139 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: He's trying to get himself on the news. And if 140 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: you don't believe me. 141 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: That that's what these town halls are actually about, which 142 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: is there about. 143 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Him and not you? Can anybody tell me one piece 144 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: of legislation? He's been doing these for six months all 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: over the state. Can anybody tell me one piece of 146 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: legislation that Micah Beckwith has proposed out of the out 147 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: of these town halls where he has had a press conference, 148 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: he has said, I heard this, I've gone to LSA, 149 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: I've written this down. I'm presenting this to Rod Bray, 150 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: to Todd Houston. Can you tell me one thing he 151 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: has done out of these town hallspos a listening tour 152 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: that benefits anybody but himself? 153 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: Do you know? 154 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: No, he doesn't create legislation, But you're saying he needs 155 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: to go to the people that do and say, this 156 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: is what I've learned, this is. 157 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: What is priority for Hoosiers. We need to take care 158 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: of this. 159 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: Sure, he claims like he's always oh yeah, I'm against 160 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: the utility rates going up. But then you'll say something 161 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Asinin'm like, well, if you're not growing, you're dying. What 162 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: is the state doing? How is the state growing? The 163 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: state is quote unquote growing on all of these things 164 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: that are going to raise utility utility bills? Does he 165 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: have any proposed legislation? He's heard this from every place 166 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: he's gone. He's heard the same thing from people. If 167 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: the town halls were really about anything but himself, he 168 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: would be proposing or day is what two and a 169 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: half months away, right where all the doing starts going. 170 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: If he had some big thing of all these things 171 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: that he had heard, he would be out by now. 172 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: It's like as laughable as Braun saying like I'm coming 173 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: back next year for something on property taxes. You aren't 174 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: coming back for anything, because if you were, you'd have 175 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: it out by now. You had a year and a 176 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: half on your property tax thing. Where that gets you 177 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: got you nowhere? We're gonna believe in two months, you're 178 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna sell somebody on some transformational local government reform or whatever. 179 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: He's trying to convince those well meaning people that he 180 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: meets with that he's gonna do, of course not. 181 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: There's nothing you can look. 182 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: At out of these town halls that Micah has done 183 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: that is in any way going to benefit you. 184 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: None. Zero. 185 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: There would be tons of policies being proposed. He barely 186 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: even ever posts on social media about anything he's for 187 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: or again, as it relates to things that have come 188 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: out of these town halls. So people need to get 189 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: it through their heads when you go to these town halls, 190 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: When you go to these town halls, you are going 191 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: to benefit him. He doesn't care about you, he doesn't 192 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: have the ability to help you, and he wants the 193 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: viral moment that he got the other night. Now he's 194 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: putting people in danger by doing this. Somebody's going to 195 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: get seriously hurt at one of these Eventually. Maybe he's 196 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: okay with that. I don't know. But if you go 197 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: to one of these going forward, recognize there is not 198 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: one thing he has done out of them in six 199 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: months that has been proposed publicly. He can't even point 200 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: to a meeting he's had with Bray or Houston or Braun. 201 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: About them, because he hasn't. 202 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: It's about helping himself and if you go to them, 203 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: he's not processing what you're telling him. 204 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: He's helping himself. All right, let's take a break. 205 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, we're only doing this because he 206 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: went on with Hammer Nigel yesterday and he said some 207 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: totally ridiculous stuff that is totally unacceptable for us. 208 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: To let it go. We'll talk about it. We'll play 209 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: the audio when we come back. 210 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: It's ninety three WIBC. 211 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So we got to play some of this audio 212 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: from the Lieutenant Governor with Hammer and Nigel yesterday because 213 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: they did a phenomenal job interviewing him and they got 214 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on the record that is just 215 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating. 216 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: Its Kennel Case Show. 217 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's here, all right, So I'm going to 218 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: say this because like in Casey, you know this, You've 219 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: been around me for a long time. When I get information, 220 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: do I just run out and tell everybody about it? 221 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: When we get I get stories. 222 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Do I just immediately throw them up on social media? 223 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: Do I run on these air. 224 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: Waves, or do I spend a lot of time verifying sources. 225 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: Like let's take the Bohachik Mike Bohatchik, the state Senator 226 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: who is alleged to have blown the point two eighty 227 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: three and the DUI charges and all that stuff. Right, 228 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: you knew about that for quite a while. How long 229 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: did I sit on that and get things confirmed before 230 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: I ran. 231 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: Out with it? 232 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: It was a while, right, Yeah. 233 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 3: Same thing with the bo Baird story. The state rep. 234 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: From Putnam County who Bo Baird had the OWI in 235 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: whatever that was twenty seventeen or eighteen, and nobody knew 236 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: about it, and he didn't disclose it because conveniently, some 237 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: wrong things were entered into the public record. Right, How 238 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: long did I sit on that before I verified sources 239 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: to get it right? 240 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 241 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 4: That was a while, And that happens with a lot 242 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: of this stuff. It takes a while, yeah, for all 243 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: of the information to be released. 244 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: And that's why, over the nine years that I've been here, 245 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: when I come out with stuff, when I break news, 246 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: when I say things, that's what the like, How can 247 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: you think of a time on a big story where 248 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: I've run out with something now where I've been like, 249 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: didn't go through this process right to verify, to painstakingly 250 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: independently of multiple sources, right get information before I brought 251 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: it out. So I can say safely that there is 252 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: a grand jury that is looking into Micah's office, there 253 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: is an investigation going on related to that, I can 254 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: safely say it is more than just artificial intelligence pornography. 255 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: The investigation is is bigger than that. And one of 256 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: the things that is very frustrating is that I struggle 257 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: to see how if I know that's going on, as 258 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: a total outsider to the State House, as a total 259 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: outsider to Indiana politics and government, I really struggled to 260 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: see how Micah himself, with three and a half million 261 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: dollars worth of staff at his disposal, couldn't also know 262 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: that was going on. 263 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: And yet yesterday on. 264 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: Hammer and Nige, when we will play you some of 265 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: these clips here, he appears to vehemently deny any of 266 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: this is taking plasure having knowledge that it's taking place. 267 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: And the thing that really gets me is the first 268 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: person to talk about a grand jury wasn't me, wasn't Abdul, 269 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: wasn't tom Lo Bianco. It was the husband of Micah's 270 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: chief of staff. That was the first guy to stooge 271 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: out that apparently there was a grand jury because he 272 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: used the phrase grand jury on his social media account. Now, 273 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: this guy then proceeded to go at Hammer and we've 274 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,479 Speaker 1: covered their feedback in forth and Hammer addressed this yesterday 275 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: with Micah, let's take a little listen to this. 276 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 6: A lot of questions, a lot of rumors about what's 277 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 6: going on in your office. There was this story of 278 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 6: an AI video that was being shared in your office. 279 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 6: And then the husband of your chief of staff, this moron, 280 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 6: goes on social media rips WIBC and saying that we're 281 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 6: all bought by Soros. And you know, I get if 282 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 6: there's a beef with other members of our station here, 283 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 6: but when this idiot starts bringing me into this thing, 284 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 6: that's where I got a problem. 285 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: Micah. 286 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 6: He's the one that said there was a grand jury 287 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 6: involved may have been an accident, but he put it out. 288 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: On social media. 289 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 6: So the million dollar question is is there a grand 290 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 6: jury looking into activities from your office. 291 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 7: No, we haven't heard that. And listen, okay, Stu is 292 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 7: he's a friend, but he's not part of our office. Okay, 293 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 7: Sherry's doing a great job. 294 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 6: He's a moron, Nikah, and we know each other well 295 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 6: enough I can say he's embarrassing his wife. 296 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So we're led to believe then that the husband 297 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: of Micah's chief of staff, Oh yeah, he doesn't technically 298 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: work for the office, but he just made up the 299 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: phrase grand jury, that he just pulled that out of 300 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: his backside, and he would do that to his wife 301 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: and to Micah who's a close friend of his, and 302 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: everybody else without it being true. That's what we're led 303 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: to believe has happened here in the dismissive way in 304 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: which he just pushed that, pushed that aside. 305 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: All right. 306 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: So they went on then to ask him a little 307 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: bit more about the AI porn side of things. And 308 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: I want to play that audio clip and respond to it. 309 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 6: Take a listen, Micah, you said your office did like 310 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 6: an internal investigation of this whole saga here, and I've 311 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 6: said on the air, look, I don't know if the 312 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 6: video exists. 313 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 314 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 6: I have no idea, but if I heard Joe hogg 315 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 6: set say we've done an investigation and everything's fine, I'd 316 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 6: have a hard time with that. Are you open to 317 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 6: having somebody else, like do an investigation. 318 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 7: If they can actually give me a shread of evidence 319 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 7: that this thing actually exists. I'm not just going to 320 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 7: let these abduls drag our office into these types of 321 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 7: battles all day long, because all they have to do 322 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 7: then next week is create some other lie and an allegation, 323 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 7: and then we're back into another investigation. I'm not going 324 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 7: to play that game with them. If someone can prove 325 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 7: to me that there is a video and that it 326 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 7: was watched or seen in my office, or there was 327 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 7: some aspect of proof, we will absolutely have someone else 328 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 7: come in and do the investigation. But at this point, 329 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 7: we've done our internal investigation. 330 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: We did it thoroughly. 331 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 7: We interviewed every person that was allegedly had some connection 332 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 7: to being accused of being a part of this or 333 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 7: knew of this, and every single time we could not 334 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 7: find a shred of evidence that this thing actually occurred. 335 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the problem with that. He's now admitted there's 336 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: no law enforcement that came in. There's no person who 337 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: has any background on this whatsoever. There's no person with 338 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: any skills set whatsoever. It would not even forensics or 339 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: US not. 340 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: The state police. 341 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm Mary County Prosecutor's office. At least now we know 342 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: in great job by Hammer and Nigel, it's just him 343 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: asking his buddies, did you do it? He has no 344 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: computer background to do this. He didn't bring in a 345 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: third party and the problem and okay, fine, if that's 346 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: what you want to do, but that's your investigation. That 347 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: is the investigation at this point, and if Mike is 348 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: fine with that, it's his office. The problem with that, though, 349 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: is he's allowing his guys to twist in the wind 350 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: because of this. If these are not only his workers, 351 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: they're some of his closest friends and supporters, and he's 352 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: supposedly had this magic key to set all of this free. 353 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: And by the way, if lobion Go's wrong, the guy 354 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: who wrote the story, I've said this numerous times, they 355 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: should sue that guy for everything he has. If he 356 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: just made this story up, they should sue him for 357 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: everything has. And one of them is an attorney, so 358 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: it wouldn't cost anything to file. 359 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: Now. 360 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: The problem with this, though, is that I have talked 361 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: to someone who alleges that they saw the video and 362 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: they have described to me in great detail, not only 363 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: seeing the video, but these circumstances around which the video 364 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: is viewed, and that person is cooperating with the authorities. 365 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: So if that person's. 366 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: Lying, this would be the most crazy thing to lie about, 367 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: because they have put themselves to be for the potentially 368 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: to be in such. 369 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: A world of hurt, such a world of trouble, like 370 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: they go to prison, they can face all of this stuff. 371 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: Why would that person lie about that. It's easy to say, oh, 372 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: I have duels a gossip girl and he's of this 373 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: and he's that. What about me, Micah? How many times 374 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: have I been right about stuff over the years? How 375 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: many times I've been. 376 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: Right about stuff? Hell, we got the JD Vance thing 377 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: and Casey, how long did I go through that? I 378 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: had that way ahead of time and sat on it 379 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 3: and we were first on that. 380 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: So now do that with me, Micah, say that about me? 381 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: Say Rob Kendall's a gossip girl. 382 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: See I just. 383 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: Make it up. You can't do that. That's the problem. 384 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: I've talked to somebody who says they viewed the video. 385 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: Now again, if they're lying, they're going to be in 386 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: a whole world of trouble. 387 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: All right. I want to take one more break because 388 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: there's one other clip I want to play because they 389 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: asked him directly about the grand jury, and I want 390 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: to play that because I think that that may be 391 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: the most important thing of all. 392 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: It's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 393 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: Okay, we got a place more audio from this, this 394 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: interview the Lieutenant Governor did with the Hammer Nigel yesterday. 395 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: But look, before we get to that, I want to 396 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: say this again because this has torn a lot of 397 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: people apart. What's being alleged to have happened in the 398 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor's. 399 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: Office, and this is a look. 400 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: Many people that I've known for years are very angry 401 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: with me right now for covering the story. And my 402 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: message to the people at large is my obligation to 403 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: you has always been been here nine years and when 404 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: I started here, I was as low on the total pole. 405 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: As we could you could get. 406 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: And have you know, we've all risen together, right, And 407 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: there were people who when I started here couldn't stand me, 408 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: and people like Jerry Lopez, he talks about this. 409 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: All the time. 410 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Because I am resolute in my search of the truth 411 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: and holding politicians accountable, and my obligation to you is 412 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: to hold everybody to the same level once they have, 413 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, put their hand on a bible. 414 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 3: And taken the oath of office. 415 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: And I think I got a really good track record 416 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: of giving you information that I know when I know it. 417 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: And if you want to be upset at me for 418 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: that because I'm treating this guy that way have treated 419 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: everybody else, then that's okay. If you want to be 420 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: mad at me because of that, Like fine, I'm sorry, 421 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, but I'd be 422 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: doing a disservice to the tens of thousands of people 423 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: who listen every day if I didn't give you this 424 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: information once it once it comes from sources that I trust, 425 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: or things that I know. 426 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: To be true. 427 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: If I just didn't tell you because I was worried, Well, 428 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: he's popular in this corner. This guy's popular in that corner. 429 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: That's my job, that's what that's what we do here 430 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: every day. And so I love you too much, I 431 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: care about you the audience too much to not tell 432 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: you these things. And you can be mad at me 433 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: if you want, and you know that that's just like 434 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: all right. So I did want to play one other 435 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: clip and Jason Hammer will be with us next to 436 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: go in depth a little bit more on this, because they 437 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: did a great job with this interview. So they asked 438 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel ask the Lieutenant Governor, Micah beck With 439 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: yesterday if indeed there is a grand jury investigation into 440 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: his office. 441 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: This is what he had to say. Is there no 442 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: grand jury investigation? 443 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm hearing grand jury. Hearing stuff from from our coworker, 444 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: abduel A Kim Shabaz about ghosts, employment and time sheets 445 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 5: sheets in campaign. You know, you know, campaign stuff that's 446 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 5: not going on. 447 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 3: No, I've listen. 448 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 7: I don't know anything about a grand jury. We haven't 449 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 7: heard anything. I don't know anyone in my office who's 450 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 7: been contacted by the by the prosecutor's office. 451 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so the problem for me with that one is 452 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: that the chief of staff's husband here to admit there 453 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: is a grand jury investigation unprompted. 454 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: That's a major issue. 455 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think any reasonable person would think, well, 456 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: he just made that up. Why would he do that, 457 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: How would that in any way benefit his wife or Micah, 458 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: who is very close Why would he use that phrase? 459 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: But let's just take that out of the equation. 460 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: The problem is, I know multiple people who have given 461 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: information to the authorities which they have said is being 462 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: used for, is being presented to a grand jury. So 463 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: in order for that to not be true, not only 464 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: would the chief of staff's husband have to be wrong, 465 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: but multiple people who have had to take their own 466 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: time and spend their own money to be honest, decent, 467 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: forthright people. They would have to be lying to me 468 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: about the engagements that they have had. 469 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: And I have a very hard time. 470 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: One person maybe, but when you put it all together, 471 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: it seems like a snowball of people saying reliable things 472 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: that there is a grand jury looking into this office. 473 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: Now, look, a. 474 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: Grand jury doesn't mean, let's be fair about this. A 475 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: grand jury doesn't mean there's going to be any convictions. 476 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: A grand jury doesn't mean there's even going to be 477 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: any indictments. Their job is to look into things and 478 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: then come back with recommendations. But I just can't fathom that, 479 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: if I know about this stuff as a total outsider, 480 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: that the Lieutenant Governor himself also doesn't know what's going on, 481 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: or that this is alleged to be going on. So 482 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: that's it. Look, I wanted to be done with it. 483 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: I was done with it. You notice I haven't said 484 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: anything for basically a week on social media or on here. 485 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: But I cannot let some guy come on our airwaves 486 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: and say things that just to appear to be completely 487 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: inconsistent with the facts as they know them, or completely 488 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: hypocritical and not aggressive. 489 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: He's going to do it here on WIBC. 490 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: Hammer's going to join us next. It is Kendall and 491 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: Casey on ninety three WIBC. 492 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 3: Just because college football starts tomorrow. Yes, sir, now, I 493 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: know you and I. 494 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: Both believe it's ridiculous that they call something weak zero, 495 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: but that's what it's known as. 496 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 6: Right, if you have zero dollars in your bank account, 497 00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 6: do you have any money? 498 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 4: No? 499 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 6: But we have week zero with meaningful college football games. 500 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: And your name is Jason Hammer, by the way, one 501 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: half of the Hammer in Nigel Afternoon Show. Now there's 502 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: actually a very important game noule, which is you and 503 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: I got into this in the Degenerates Nextdoor Sports Betting podcast, 504 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: new episode now out. You and I got into this 505 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: yesterday that I would hate for my team to have 506 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: a meaningful game Week one, like I need a week 507 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: or two a couple of weeks, you get some wins 508 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: under our milt feel good about the team. One of 509 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: these in this Kansas State Iowa State game in Dublin. 510 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 3: It's a conference game. 511 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and these are the two of the tippy top 512 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: or believe to be tippy top teams in the Big twelve. 513 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: You could be really behind the eight ball. 514 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 6: AND's only week one and I'm here for it though, Like, 515 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 6: if you're going to play a big game, do it 516 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 6: early because then you've got time. 517 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: To recover if you lose. 518 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 6: But with it being a conference game, that's different because 519 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 6: we've got Ohio State and Texas next week and their openers. 520 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 6: Whoever loses that game still has a pretty good chance 521 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 6: to make the College Football Playoff, assuming you just don't 522 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 6: crap the bed. 523 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: The rest of the year. 524 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 6: So I like when they schedule hard games early on. 525 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 6: But this is a conference game, two ranked teams right 526 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 6: out of the gate, and we've all got action on it. 527 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 6: Free picks and plays on the Degenerates next Door podcast. 528 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 6: Please follow the Twitter account. We're trying to grow that 529 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 6: thing up a little bit at gambling stuff. We're gonna 530 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 6: start doing some contesting on that things. And yeah, the 531 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 6: new podcast is out. 532 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 3: Rob and I. 533 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 6: We do the homework, We do our diligence, we make 534 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 6: our plays. Last year we each had winning records, And 535 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 6: we also work with two professional handicappers and we basically 536 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 6: put a gun to the heads and make them. 537 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: Give us free plays. 538 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, our pros are like straight out of Central Casting. 539 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: Like the one guy we call the Big Harry American 540 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: yes because he. 541 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 6: Is Kenny Bread KB Sports. And the other guy, my guy, David. 542 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: He is the prototypical degenerate gambling. Right. 543 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 6: You can't have the degenerates next door without a guy 544 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 6: like David a fall in ever face. 545 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: He's been pretty I think he's even talked about it 546 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: on the show that his keys, Like what's your earliest 547 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: memory with your parents? Like is there something that you 548 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: remember like going to a park or you know, a 549 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: playground or doing the ABC's and like, do you know 550 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: what your earliest childhood memory is? 551 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: Yes? 552 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: What is it? 553 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: I threw up on my mom? 554 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Well, okay, there you go David's earliest memory. How about you, Hammery, 555 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: remember your earliest childhood memory lay involved with the old man? 556 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: Exactly right, Thanks for taking the bit, Casey, very good, 557 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: but yes, for most people. It's usually some meaningful thing. 558 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: David's earliest childhood childhood memory is what filling out gambling 559 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: sheets with this old man, right. 560 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 6: Yes, because his old man was a real gambling degenerate 561 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 6: long before this fancy schmancy legal sports batting stuff. 562 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 563 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 6: So these are the people that we work with again, 564 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 6: truth and advertising. We are the degenerates next door. And 565 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 6: starting here in a couple of weeks, once the NFL 566 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 6: season starts, we're doing two podcasts a week. Tuesday will 567 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 6: be the College Show and Thursday will be the NFL. 568 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: And if you'd like to sponsor our program, how can 569 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: people get a hold of us, because we, as we 570 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: talked about on the show yesterday, we do a good 571 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: job shilling for stuff, like we get people in the 572 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: door and that's why all the WIBC advertisers keep coming back. 573 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: We'll shill for stuff on the Gambling Show too. 574 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 6: We've sold out Hammer and Nigel Show has sold out 575 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 6: everything that we've done, whether it's an event, whether it's 576 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 6: a bottle of bourbon, whether it's a bottle of tequila, 577 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 6: of charity events, we've sold out everything we're done. So 578 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 6: if you want to sponsor the project that Rob and 579 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 6: I do the sports betting thing. It doesn't even have 580 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 6: to be gambling related. If you're a company, it doesn't matter. 581 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 6: We'll find some way to incorporate you. Just email me 582 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 6: Hammer and Nigel at WIBC dot com. 583 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: Very easy, Hammer and Nigel at WIBC dot com. Speaking 584 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: of Hammer and Nigel, we spent a lot of this hour. 585 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: I was focused on this. I thought your interview with 586 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: the Lieutenant governor was fascinating yesterday, and we played a 587 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: couple of clips of that, and I would just be 588 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: curious to get your thoughts on the whole thing. I 589 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: did love your editorial comment on the hunh. 590 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: Well, this idiot's still doubling down on it. 591 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 6: This is why Hammer's upset because I found this and 592 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: it's factually wrong information. Imagine having the wrong piece of 593 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 6: information and you keep sharing it over and over again 594 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 6: thinking it's some sort of own Like if I said 595 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 6: two plus two equal seven and somebody calls me out 596 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 6: on it, I'm not going to keep sharing my wrong 597 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 6: mathematical equation. 598 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: See this is what he's upset about. See your moron. 599 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 3: And I feel bad for the guy's wife because it's 600 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: the guy's wife. 601 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 6: I don't know who she is, but I bet she's 602 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 6: dealing with a lot right now. She seems like a 603 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 6: nice person. She's probably buried, you know, up to her 604 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 6: neck at work, and then her idiot husband is making 605 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 6: things more difficult for her. So instead of coming home 606 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 6: and relaxing on social media, she's got to find out 607 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 6: what Captain Moron's doing. Yeah, and we thought he was done, right, 608 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 6: I mean he said he was done, but he can't 609 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 6: help himself. Yeah, and he's one of those guys because 610 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 6: his wife is successful. He's having a hard time with this. 611 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: So he's, like, I think, convinced himself because look, and 612 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: we don't mind talking about it. Right, years before Urban 613 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: One owned WIBC, and years before a major company named Odyssey, 614 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: which owns radio stations across the country, was owned by 615 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: George Soros. He or a company that he's a part of, 616 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: owns part of Odyssey, now the big bad George Soros. Right, 617 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: years before any of this happened, Odyssey and Urban One 618 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: had some sort of content sharing partnership. Not that Odyssey 619 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: is running Urban One, not that they're making any choices 620 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: for Urban One, not that they're dictating a Urban One 621 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: does anything but simply because again before anything. 622 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: Soros owned Odyssey or Urban One owned up. When we 623 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: were owned by Jeff Smullyan, they. 624 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: Had some sort of content sharing agreement he alluded to 625 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: the chief of staff's husband seems to wanted people to 626 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: think like somehow that was proof we were being controlled 627 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: by George Soros. Is that I don't even know what 628 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: he was trying to say, but that it is that 629 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: like why we were being critical of Michael, Like I 630 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: don't even understand. 631 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: What he was getting at, but that's his Yeah, And. 632 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 6: We kept trying to explain to Perry Mason over there, 633 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 6: all of this happened before the sale of this company 634 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 6: took place, and even now we have no relationship with 635 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 6: George Soros. The things that I have said about Ryan 636 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 6: Meres and the things that I have said about Joe 637 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 6: Hawk said, if I were given barking orders by George 638 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 6: Soros when I still be here today, And I've simply 639 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 6: pourted this out. But again, Matt Locke over there seems 640 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 6: like he's got it all figured out, and he keeps 641 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 6: making his wife's job more difficult. What a crappy thing 642 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 6: to do as a husband. Yeah, all right, Hey, let 643 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 6: me just say this. 644 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: Real quick since we're rolling. Listen. 645 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 6: I love church, I love religion. A man that believes 646 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 6: in God. I talk to God every single day, and 647 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 6: I've talked about this. People might be surprised by this. 648 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 6: I have a little chat with God every day when 649 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 6: I drive into work. We have it out to have 650 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 6: a conversation. I'm thankful for my blessings. I'm thankful for 651 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 6: my family, all that kind of stuff. There is a 652 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 6: big place in this world for religion and beliefs. But man, 653 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 6: these church people don't know what they're doing running. 654 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: The lieutenant governor's office. I'm not talking about. 655 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 6: Micah, I'm talking about the people he surrounded himself with. 656 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 6: It sounds like and Rob, you would probably know this 657 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 6: better than anybody because you've been covering the story from 658 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 6: the beginning. Most of the people in that office don't 659 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 6: know anything at all about politics. They're like his church people, 660 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 6: which okay, that's great. I'm sure they're fantastic people. I 661 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 6: would like to have a pitchin picnic with these people. 662 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 6: I would watch a Colt's game with these people. They're 663 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 6: going to get Micah in trouble. They don't know what 664 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 6: they're doing and now they're getting cocky. 665 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: We recommended some people that Micah should bring into his 666 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: orbit who know how the state government works. Some of 667 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: those people were not selected, and that's fine. The people 668 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: who were selected from outside that orbit were generally not 669 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: listen to right, and I agree this is not And 670 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: the one of the things that I don't think some 671 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: people realize is government is not the wild West. 672 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 3: Right, there are rules. I have anti religion here. 673 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 6: I'm not because I don't want anybody think you are 674 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 6: a YouTube chat because I you know, I'm a church guy. 675 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 6: I love God, I'm into Jesus I am. I'm that dude. 676 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 6: But if I'm laying on a table needing heart surgery, 677 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 6: I don't want somebody from my church to come in 678 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 6: and operate on. 679 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: Me because they don't know what they're doing. 680 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: You want to highly qualify. 681 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: You want somebody that's qualified to what they. 682 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: Do, especially, and this is one of the things that 683 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: I tried to relay. And as usual in most of 684 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: my life, just like in my home, my advice is 685 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: ignored in the order in which it's received. That when 686 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: you're going to be the guy who is elected by 687 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: sticking your fingers in the eyes of the power structure. 688 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: Every eye is going to be on you. Oh sure, 689 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: you're not going to get any breaks. You're not going 690 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: to get things ignored that other people may do. 691 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 2: Which means you need to be above reproach. 692 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: A absolutely And look again, who knows what's all the 693 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: way to come down or come of all of this? 694 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, but you're right, Hammer. 695 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: You have to have a certain amount of people in 696 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: an office, especially when you have run as the guy 697 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: that's made everybody mad, right where you have people who 698 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: know how how to make the trains run on time? 699 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 3: How is this. 700 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 6: Okay in any other job? Like, not that he's done 701 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 6: much better, but could you imagine if Chris Ballard said, 702 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 6: all right, we've got the number five pick in this 703 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 6: year's draft, the LSU quarterbacks available, But I really think 704 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 6: the guy from my church can help me out a 705 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 6: little bit more, Like what. 706 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 3: Other job is that acceptable? Yeah? 707 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was a great interview. You guys touched 708 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: on a lot more than what we played on the 709 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: on the show. 710 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 6: They're definitely doing this redistricting thing right, it's going down, 711 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 6: it feels like it now. We're working on getting the 712 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 6: governor back in here sometime soon and we will ask 713 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 6: him flat out about the redistricting thing when it comes. 714 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 6: By the way, for whatever reason, I have a hard 715 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 6: time saying the word redistrictor districting you. 716 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: As some weird anomaly I think every person does. Like 717 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: you can't take pills, Like you can't do pills, right, 718 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: I gotta chew everything up? Yeah, chew everything. Have to 719 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: smash your pills? Is that what you do with them? 720 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: Either mix it with an apple sauce or just chew 721 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: it up like it's a that's an amazing thing to me. 722 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: Is that like just like some sort of physical anomaly 723 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: or it's just a mental thing, Like it's a mental Yeah, Like. 724 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 3: Everybody tells me you eat bigger pieces of meat than 725 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 3: this pill. Yeah, I know it. I'm a moron. 726 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what more you want me to say, 727 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: just the act of actually swallowing the pill. Do you 728 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: have any weird anomaly, Casey, like of something that that 729 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: you just can't do or that people would go, oh 730 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: my gosh, I can't believe that. 731 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: No, I excel at everything. 732 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 3: Rob, Well, wait an open thanks for playing along. That's great. 733 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 3: It's been a dynamite segment by. 734 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 6: Casey here today she stepped all over your bit and 735 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 6: then she asked nothing to contribute to that question. Dynamite 736 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 6: drop in there, MANI that broadcast school is really paying off. 737 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: It's Friday. Hey uh. 738 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: And you and I had a fun thing with redistricting 739 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: the other day, which you and I I think just 740 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: to disagree. Like you all this is all about you 741 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 1: hating Rod Bray, like you feel like this is gonna 742 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: be some one up on Rod Bray if they do redistricting. 743 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: Not neced. 744 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 6: No, it's not even really about redistricting. It's about your 745 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 6: hatred of Charlie Kirk. So Charlie Kirk, the national influencer guy. 746 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 6: He's putting out statements now. His statements are about redistricting. 747 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 6: But the statements themselves say, listen, if the leadership of 748 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 6: Indiana doesn't want to do this, we're going to primary them. 749 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 6: We're gonna do this. We're gonna do that paraphrasing, of course. 750 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 6: And my whole thing was look redistricting aside. Anybody that 751 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 6: wants to try to replace Rod Bray, you get a 752 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 6: standing ovation from me. And that's the one guy that's 753 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 6: holding everything back in the state. 754 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: Rob. 755 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 6: He crapped all over your signature issue, which was property taxes. 756 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 3: But because Charlie Kirk's saying it, you don't like it. 757 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: Had Adam Morand said it. 758 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 6: James Briggs of The Indie Story se, you had to 759 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 6: take it off your pants and job. 760 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to have any friends proves. 761 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 2: What's coming up this afternoon. 762 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 6: We're gonna do some bargaments this afternoon. Dan Levy's gonna 763 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 6: join us sample Friday. Francis Martel of Breitbart, let's have 764 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 6: a show. 765 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, we got a big guest next, Casey 766 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: Rpal Doug Carter firm, State Blue Superintendent. He's gonna come 767 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: spit some fire in the Klein Helter investigation. 768 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: It's ninety three WYBC mess up.