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Speaker 1: Of course for the Colts coming up this Sunday against

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. Let's get right to this as

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Speaker 1: you have started to kind of break down and at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, you know, we kind of

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Speaker 1: But when you look at Indianapolis, what jumps out of

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a great, great question. I think surprise isn't

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Speaker 2: the proper word, but I think maybe a realization again

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Speaker 2: once more being reintroduced to the fact that this offense

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Speaker 2: has plenty of talent on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: And I think they've done a nice job over the years.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know Chris Baller catches a lot of

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Speaker 2: a GM, right, But if Ryan Kelly is going to

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Speaker 3: Do you have?

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Speaker 2: Well they've drafted in recent years, HANNERBORDERLINI ended up winning

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Speaker 2: trying to remember for my draft days, all right, But

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Speaker 2: Matt Gonzalez, he will have to prove that he can

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Speaker 2: play guard because he's been a tackle, but they like

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Speaker 2: his potential. And Braden Smith is kind of my north

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Speaker 2: So I think the culture, I think they're doing a

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Speaker 2: really nice job evaluating these positions. So I really like

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Speaker 2: So of course it comes back to everything that we

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Speaker 2: around it, is there. What kind of quarterback play will

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the you know, here's what I mentioned earlier, Charles,

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Speaker 1: and that is that you know, Daniel Jones is perhaps

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Speaker 1: And they get in danger a little bit a year

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Speaker 2: Well, but before I get into my answer, let me

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Speaker 2: just start with this. We've we've talked time, you know

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Speaker 2: and it's not starting now. I think what you laid

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Speaker 2: Here's where I think the Colts fans are sitting on

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Speaker 2: just not sustainable. It's just not Tim Tebow was the

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Speaker 1: the world expected this? But man, this is just NonStop

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Speaker 2: NonStop drama. Everything's just kind of gone haywire. The whole

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Speaker 2: How about the Chargers?

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Speaker 2: And I don't and I don't really truly believe it,

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Speaker 1: Okay, go out and get yourself a hat and gloves,

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Speaker 4: Right now. No, hey, no one wants to see me.

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Speaker 1: There we go a little twist and shout Charles, appreciate it, man.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Charles Davis joining us again Colts Dolphins Sunday,

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Speaker 1: And that is when you were able to assess this

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Speaker 5: I mean I thought, look, the veterans all kind of

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Speaker 1: Do you if there was an area Mike that an

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Speaker 5: Well, it was too basically a book under the game

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Speaker 4: You got to get it cleaned up.

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Speaker 5: You got to get it fixed just because of what

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Speaker 1: Do you more commonly refer to yourself as Michael or

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Speaker 5: It's it's it's I really don't nitpick, but Mike is

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Speaker 1: Again, Michael, better known as Mike to his friends and family,

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Speaker 5: Kugan had notre dame guy that knows how to play

433
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Speaker 5: sort of under that spotlight and expectations. So I do

434
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Speaker 5: think that this team is probably more prepared than they

435
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Speaker 5: were maybe even even last year as they sort of

436
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Speaker 5: faced that, because you know, there was a lot to

437
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Speaker 5: put on a team. But now they've sort of had

438
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Speaker 5: the run up and I think there's mostly sort of

439
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 5: turned it off. I know a lot of the guys

440
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Speaker 5: talks about kind of deleting social media, they kind of

441
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Speaker 5: ignoring all that that conversation and not paying any attention

442
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Speaker 5: to it, and I think they've used it more as

443
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Speaker 5: fuel in terms of like, look, because most of the

444
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Speaker 5: stuff has been questioning whether Indiana blongs right and people

445
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Speaker 5: saying they they don't. I don't think it's been flowers

446
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 5: they've been getting for being part of the playoff picture.

447
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 5: It's been quite the opposite, Like people question their schedule,

448
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 5: people calling them a fluke, and these are a lot

449
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Speaker 5: of guys that weren't heavily recruited, you know, felt ignored

450
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Speaker 5: for by power for teams, and they've sort of added

451
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Speaker 5: this to be like, look, we need to prove them wrong.

452
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Speaker 5: And so, you know, I don't think that the auto

453
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Speaker 5: even performance, I don't sort of attribute to that part

454
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Speaker 5: of it, like dealing with expectations, like I think that

455
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Speaker 5: part they'll be fine. I just think this was a

456
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Speaker 5: new team that you know, obviously didn't get anything right

457
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Speaker 5: in week one, but it's gonna you know, come back

458
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Speaker 5: and try to get it fixed. But no, to your point,

459
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Speaker 5: I think it's a team that will be able to

460
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Speaker 5: sort of handle the spotlight when it comes, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think that it's gonna be huge that Illinois Indiana

462
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Speaker 4: game on the tour twentieth.

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Speaker 5: I mean that'll be a real big point, you know, uh,

464
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Speaker 5: get talked up because Illinois obviously is getting cut of

465
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Speaker 5: some of the you know chatter about being the next Indiana.

466
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Speaker 5: Then in two weeks after that, the Organ game. Those

467
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Speaker 5: are big moments that I think they'll be able to handle.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what kind of dude is Kurt Signetti. I mean

469
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Speaker 1: we know what he's like as a coach, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: but what, like I assume you've been around him a

471
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Speaker 1: little bit. What kind of dude is he?

472
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Speaker 5: I mean, he is what he is, right Like, I mean,

473
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Speaker 5: I don't think anything that he does is for show,

474
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Speaker 5: right like I mean, like it's he's the you're getting

475
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Speaker 5: the genuine article when he's at the podium. And this

476
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Speaker 5: is basically I mean from what I've been told, how

477
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Speaker 5: he's been his entire career. And you know, I know

478
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Speaker 5: people have covered him in the past and you know,

479
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 5: we said he's a film guy. Like he's not lying.

480
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Speaker 5: Like when I've I've interviewed him, sat down and he

481
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Speaker 5: you know, kind of pulled up his computer and showed

482
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Speaker 5: me what he was doing, and it's like film like

483
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Speaker 5: it's it's it's just you know, he goes through it

484
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Speaker 5: and sorts all this stuff and spends hours on it.

485
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's just that's what he is.

486
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Speaker 1: Hey, what do you think of the Mike Nideck as

487
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Speaker 1: our guest from the Bloomington Herald Times, what did you

488
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Speaker 1: think of the Bison? It's the debut of the Bison.

489
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Speaker 1: Your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it did a nice job with the production

491
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Speaker 5: of it. I'm with the plane. I don't know if

492
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Speaker 5: you saw the you know, the the replay of him

493
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Speaker 5: flying on the plane.

494
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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so you know, one of the things it

496
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Speaker 5: ties back to, honestly, what Kurtzy and he said about

497
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Speaker 5: improving the atmosphere and giving people you know, he chotted

498
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Speaker 5: the fans for leaving it halftime, but the idea of

499
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Speaker 5: giving people a reason to stay, giving kids a reason

500
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Speaker 5: to stay, all that ties in. You're trying to you know,

501
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Speaker 5: improve the you know, be with the big boys and

502
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Speaker 5: and and you know, it seems silly that a mascot

503
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Speaker 5: would be part of that, but it is. It's it's

504
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Speaker 5: the atmosphere making it, you know, getting fans the reason

505
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Speaker 5: to come and and and get loud and do things,

506
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Speaker 5: and that just adds all to it.

507
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Speaker 1: You know, kids can join the Who's Your Buddies? Uh,

508
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Speaker 1: the Who's Your Bison Buddies Club? Eddie, would you like

509
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Speaker 1: to join the Who's Your Bison Buddies Club? I'm not

510
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Speaker 1: a kid, I know, as much as like I think

511
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Speaker 1: I am, I know, but I'm a big fan of

512
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Speaker 1: mascots and like they give out T shirts and the

513
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Speaker 1: whole deal. You think I could rig it? Just sign

514
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Speaker 1: up for it and be a I'd like to be

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Speaker 1: a Hoo's Your bison buddy, Mike, do you have kids?

516
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Speaker 1: Are there? Who's your bison buddy?

517
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Speaker 4: I do have kids. They're not. Who's your bison buddies yet? Yeah?

518
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Speaker 1: Oh yet? Yes, Yeah, that's right.

519
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Speaker 4: We'll see.

520
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Speaker 5: We'll see what the bison does. We'll see how he does.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna wait. You gotta look at them films.

522
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Speaker 1: The bison's here for the long haul though, right they're not.

523
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Speaker 1: They're not packing in early on the bison. He's here

524
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Speaker 1: for good.

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Speaker 4: We'll see. I well, if they had lost that game,

526
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Does he go right around the plane.

527
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Speaker 1: Like in like in like seventy eight or whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: They brought the bison out for like three weeks. He

529
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Speaker 1: had a big nose ring, and then all of a

530
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Speaker 1: sudden he went back to whatever band he was with.

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Speaker 1: We never heard from you.

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Speaker 3: You never know.

533
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Speaker 4: He's that he could change his mind.

534
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Speaker 1: Apparently he liked a roam. Well, we get a life

535
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Speaker 1: bison at one point, that'd be awesome, but Colorado's Colorado's

536
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: kind of got the market on that, unfortunately. But that's

537
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Speaker 1: a buffalo, not a bison, right, all right, Mike, we

538
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Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always, man look forward to talking

539
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Speaker 1: to you again.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, guys, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Mike Nisilik joining us from the Bloomington Herald Times. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, I don't know what to think of

543
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Speaker 1: the fact that in our time together, that's the best

544
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Speaker 1: audio Eddie Garrison can come up with to commemorate the

545
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Speaker 1: fact that it is, in fact, like a completely meaningless birthday.

546
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't every birthday is meaningful, but fifty

547
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Speaker 1: three doesn't rank where like fifty or sixty or you

548
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Speaker 1: know that. I'm at the point now where it's just

549
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Speaker 1: the decades only. But in fact, thank you to everybody

550
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Speaker 1: who has wished me a happy birthday. It is greatly appreciated.

551
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Speaker 1: And I am well aware of the fortunes you know

552
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Speaker 1: of kind of living the dream truth be told and

553
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: with me, that's right, that's the biggest fortune ever. It

554
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: is the why win the one billion power ball where

555
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Speaker 1: you can spend a day with me every day? Yeah, well,

556
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: I can tell you, not that I've done the numbers,

557
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: but it would be three hundred and twelve million dollars

558
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Speaker 1: after taxes that you walk away with. And that would

559
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Speaker 1: probably mean that Eddie, you're hosting on Wednesday or Thursday

560
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Speaker 1: or whatever day after the drawing. But nonetheless, I do

561
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Speaker 1: appreciate everybody listening to this show and making that every

562
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Speaker 1: day possible for us. Joining us now on the program

563
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Speaker 1: on the always busy guest line, of course, he is

564
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Speaker 1: with Sports Illustrated. We talk a lot of football with him,

565
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: and he is a huge fan of the Taco Bell Cantina.

566
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Speaker 1: We've talked about that downtown. Matt Verderam joining us on

567
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Speaker 1: the show. Matt, how are you?

568
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Speaker 3: I'd be better if I wasn't a Taco Bell CANTEENA

569
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Speaker 3: but I'm fine. How are you doing?

570
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Speaker 1: We're good? Thank you. Listen. I'm going to begin right

571
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Speaker 1: right out of the box with this. I'm very curious

572
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Speaker 1: of the national perspective here because I feel like, and

573
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Speaker 1: I fear, and I want you to tell me if

574
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I worry that the Colts have actually become

575
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Speaker 1: this franchise that you know, we put in the same

576
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Speaker 1: category as like the Arizona Cardinals or the shar or

577
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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, like if you, if you weren't in market,

578
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Speaker 1: they're kind of nationally obscure and anonymous. Is that where

579
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: Indianapolis is now?

580
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean to be honest, to be brutally honest, Yeah,

581
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Speaker 3: I think I think a lot of it is just

582
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Speaker 3: the quarterback situation, and you look at it and go,

583
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Speaker 3: all right, what is the realistic feeling for that team?

584
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: Like if everything reasonable, you know, good health, no, no

585
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 3: crazy dad luck? Like what if it is the division?

586
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 3: The division is sexy, Like nobody in that division stands out.

587
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Speaker 3: I mean cam Ward is a number one picking the draft.

588
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Speaker 3: He's a quarterback. I can't think of a quarterback because

589
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: the numb one picking the draft has been talked out

590
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: last cam Warden. It feels and you barely exist nationally.

591
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: Jacksonville is not a team that Audill spend a lot

592
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Speaker 3: time talking about. Thank Houston last year had buzz this

593
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: year at the opposite. But the culture's just no. I

594
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: was at camp, I saw them. They were a part

595
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Speaker 3: of the tour. And I think the roster is good,

596
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Speaker 3: like I really do like the roster. But when you

597
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Speaker 3: look at those quarterbacks, I think from a national perspective,

598
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Speaker 3: you just go, well, yeah, we're in a conference with

599
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Speaker 3: Mahomes and Borrow and Allen and Lamar and Shroud and

600
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Speaker 3: Herbert and the sober They're not going to be relevant

601
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Speaker 3: to have a quarterback, You know.

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Speaker 1: The matt I keep going back to this and at

603
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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. I'm weighing back and forth, and I

604
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Speaker 1: want you to tell me because you have a better

605
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Speaker 1: perspective here, because you you look around and you cover

606
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Speaker 1: multiple franchises. You know we're pigeonholed a little bit to

607
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Speaker 1: our understanding, being Indianapolis, you have a better barow of comparison.

608
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Speaker 1: Do you believe that Daniel Jones has been selected by

609
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Speaker 1: Shane Steichen as the starting quarterback because they really feel

610
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Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones could be getting a second lease here

611
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Speaker 1: and with a better roster, can be a better quarterback

612
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Speaker 1: than what we saw in New York at no fault

613
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Speaker 1: of his own, or do you believe it simply is

614
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Speaker 1: because they just don't think they can go with Anthony Richardson.

615
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Speaker 3: So I think it's a combination of a few things.

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Speaker 3: And look, one of them is I remember the Dad

617
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: was there. It was about a hundred degrees, but it

618
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Speaker 3: was I remember I was there with Jeremy Fowler of ESPN,

619
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Speaker 3: Zach Kiefer of course, of the Athletic, and then there

620
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Speaker 3: was another gentleman from USAFA's getting his name. But we

621
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Speaker 3: were in a breakout group with Anthony Richardson and at

622
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Speaker 3: one point, I've got which one was asking the question.

623
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Speaker 3: He was talking in a powerphrase. He essentially said, we know,

624
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Speaker 3: I've just learned that I've got to stop slacking all

625
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Speaker 3: he said that. We all just kind of looked at

626
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Speaker 3: each other, like that's that's a hell of a quote

627
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: from a coat. I let my camp report with it.

628
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: That is, maybe wants to check it out and read

629
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Speaker 3: you can read the deck. And I remember walking out

630
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Speaker 3: of it. I thinking, this guy's not gonna win this show.

631
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Speaker 3: There's just no way, Like I mean, even if that's true,

632
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Speaker 3: and he's totally bought in and he's one hundred, like

633
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: you've been here, this is a third year you've been here,

634
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: and like that's your that's like where you're at right now,

635
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: Like you've got a try hard I just I And

636
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Speaker 3: maybe he meant it another way. Who knows, I'm not him,

637
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: But the way he said that, that's that's alarming. And

638
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: I think look last year when he pulled himself out

639
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: of game in Houston. I know the Colts tried to

640
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Speaker 3: downplay that. Anybody who's ever been in the locker room,

641
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: that's a hard thing come back. You're the quarterback. You

642
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: don't play yourself out of the game unless you're dead

643
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Speaker 3: or you told to come out of the game. But

644
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Speaker 3: that's I mean, there is just no other way. And

645
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Speaker 3: so I think part of it was that tall I

646
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Speaker 3: did to go Jones. The other part of it is

647
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Speaker 3: Psyching looks at Daniel Jones and she's a guy who

648
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Speaker 3: has mobility, who completes a high percentage of his passes

649
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Speaker 3: and who doesn't throw interceptions. And I think he looks

650
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Speaker 3: at that and says, if he can just do that

651
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Speaker 3: well for thirty five hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns, but

652
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: he plills five picks, I can win with that guy.

653
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Speaker 3: We can play better DEFENSEI we've played a year ago.

654
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: We can run the heck out of the ball, we

655
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Speaker 3: can let our playmakers make plays, and we can we

656
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Speaker 3: can go nine and eight and be competitive in this division,

657
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Speaker 3: maybe even somehow sneak it out. I think that thirty

658
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 3: seasons Jones where Oliga richardson and go, he might complete

659
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Speaker 3: forty nine percent of his passes until fifteen picks. That

660
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Speaker 3: you can't win like that in the NFL. I think

661
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: that was ultimately the decision.

662
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Speaker 1: Do you think Matt. You know Chris Ballard publicly, I'm

663
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Speaker 1: not saying that I believe this, but publicly and I

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Speaker 1: understand it, Chris Ballard still stands by Anthony Richardson and says,

665
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Speaker 1: and I know Anthony Richardson's young. I don't think he's

666
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: a bad guy, you know whatever. Do you think the

667
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Speaker 1: rest of the league feels that way? If if Arizona

668
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Speaker 1: or Caroline, I mean in certain name of franchise, if

669
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Speaker 1: somebody said to them, hey, you can have Anthony Richardson

670
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Speaker 1: for a fifth round or right now, would they be

671
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Speaker 1: tempted by that or do you think the rest of

672
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Speaker 1: the league thinks no, thanks.

673
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Speaker 3: I think that for that kind of a compensation, yes,

674
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Speaker 3: I think they would have a lot of suitors. But

675
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Speaker 3: if I'm in Danapolis, I'm sitting there going, look, Daniel

676
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: Jones is a guy long term. I mean, let's just

677
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Speaker 3: face it, like he's another guy and Colts fans don't

678
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Speaker 3: want to hear because they've had one guy after the

679
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Speaker 3: next and Danduel Luckert hired. But Daniel Jones is a

680
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Speaker 3: bridge to hopefully not another bridge, hopefully the actual the

681
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Speaker 3: actual guy. So I think the culture sitting there going,

682
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: look if he trade Richardson, what do we do, Like,

683
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Speaker 3: what if Jones is terrible for the first month of

684
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: the season, what'd be awful and we're gonna go back

685
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Speaker 3: to Richardson. Now, Look, that might be between the rock

686
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: and hard place at that point. But you know, I

687
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Speaker 3: actually wondered if like a team like the Saints would

688
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Speaker 3: call the Colts up and say, hey, look, we'll give

689
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Speaker 3: you We'll give you a third round pick for him,

690
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: well you know, third fourth round, you know, and they

691
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: don't have their fourteenth traded the Bailey fifty Denver Bailey,

692
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Speaker 3: but like, we'll give you a third you know, And

693
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Speaker 3: maybe maybe it's one of these things where hey, look

694
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: it's conditional, like he becomes over here and he plays great,

695
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: that like you'll get like a Day three pick two

696
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Speaker 3: down the road or something. And I thought they if

697
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Speaker 3: a co team like New Orleans did that, like maybe

698
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Speaker 3: at that point we're indo, You're like, okay, look, their

699
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Speaker 3: third round pick is basically like a late second. But

700
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Speaker 3: it's tough. There's just there's a lot going against Richton

701
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Speaker 3: right now. He has not been good. He has also

702
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Speaker 3: been injured. There's also questions about like committed are you

703
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: and then there's also the other side of it two

704
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Speaker 3: where it's like, look, you just got benched for Daniel

705
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Speaker 3: Jones by a team that's like your fourth overall a

706
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Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Like they didn't mention him because

707
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Speaker 3: they signed Aaron Rodgers, right, they benched it for Daniel Jones,

708
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: who's on a one year contract, who's on the Vikings

709
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: practice squat last year. Like, it's just really hard to

710
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Speaker 3: get any value for a guy who's in that kind

711
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Speaker 3: of situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he's also in this real danger zone, Matt,

713
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Speaker 1: And you correct me if I'm wrong here. Where the

714
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Speaker 1: part of the stigma with Richardson is this point is

715
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Speaker 1: the fact that it's between the years. And I don't

716
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Speaker 1: mean to say that his lack of intellect, but his

717
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Speaker 1: last I mean, there've been very very good, sharp, excellent

718
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: TV analyst guys that when the arrows are flying past

719
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Speaker 1: him at the quarterback position, just simply could not process.

720
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Speaker 1: And that's I think that's the biggest danger is the

721
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Speaker 1: narrative is that he can't process. And am I correct

722
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Speaker 1: in saying that's a real hard thing to get away from.

723
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Speaker 3: It's a death sentence. I mean, if you can't do that.

724
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Speaker 3: There's no there's no fixtion that you're not just all

725
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 3: of a sudden I learned how to. I've always compared

726
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: the NFL quarterback position to standing on a freeway. I mean,

727
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: it's basically like trying to play quarterback on a freeway.

728
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: And you've got to be able to stand in there,

729
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: read the progressions, understand. And I think this is the

730
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Speaker 3: most underrated thing with fans. You've got to understand what's

731
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: going on pre snap. You got to get out of

732
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Speaker 3: the huddle and to the line of scrimmage fifteen or

733
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Speaker 3: so seconds on that clock and understand, okay, reading the safety,

734
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Speaker 3: I'm getting a single high look. I now know that

735
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Speaker 3: my ex receiver he's going to be open on this

736
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Speaker 3: on this curl route, and I've got to make sure

737
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Speaker 3: I hold the safety and then like and you've got

738
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Speaker 3: to do all that in the stand up about seven

739
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: eight seconds, maybe ten if you get to the line

740
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Speaker 3: quick enough. And then if you're wrong, you've got to

741
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Speaker 3: be able to adjust. If you're right, you've got to

742
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Speaker 3: be able to execute what you know you've got to

743
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Speaker 3: do and do all that. Well, you've got four or

744
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: five guys who are running a four or five or

745
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty pounds coming at you like it's

746
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: it's hard. There's a reason in the NFL how many

747
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are truly elite players correct six seven. It is

748
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Speaker 3: mentally difficult.

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Speaker 1: Who's the best in the league at that. I mean,

750
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Speaker 1: I know that Alan and Mahomes are outstanding at improvising

751
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: when the arrows are flying once they're in the freeway, right,

752
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: But give me a guy that doesn't maybe get his

753
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: proper due for it. But you're like, man, that guy

754
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: is the computer is going the second he breaks the.

755
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Speaker 3: Huddle, I would say it's Burrow, like I think. I

756
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: think Burrow when you he very rarely makes a mistake.

757
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: I mean he he'll drawing the police on anybody else.

758
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: He very rarely does he just throw a ball or

759
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: it shouldn't go. I mean, he's he's very, very smart

760
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: that way. I do think Mahomes is underrated in that

761
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: regard because he's so spectacular post step. But there are

762
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: a lot of times with Mahomes where you watch him.

763
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: I mean, heck, the game when he's driving against the

764
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 3: Nyers in the Super Bowl is mass I mean, if

765
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: you watch the mic up of that He's telling the

766
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: guys before they're even breaking the huddle for even sees

767
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: their defense, I'm coming to you. I'm gonna throw the

768
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: ball right here, I mean there. And that comes with experience.

769
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Speaker 3: There are certain guys where just the brain works the

770
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: right way. They're they're brilliant attic. Manning, of course, I mean,

771
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: you could argue he was the best ever at at

772
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: where he would just he was his own offensive coordinator, right,

773
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: you know, he was really the last guy to just

774
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: call his own plays and and the truly great one.

775
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: The Manning's the Brady. Even the Mahomes is like Montana,

776
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: those guys they win the play before it even starts.

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Speaker 1: But does that I mean, doesn't that even even for

778
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Speaker 1: a Manning. I mean, and listen, I covered Peyton Manning's

779
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: career from the time, you know, the entire time, right,

780
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: even for a Manning, it felt like it took twenty

781
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: starts before it started to hit it before it was

782
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: finally on the people mover at the airport right where

783
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: it's just moving automatically. And that's the chat I mean

784
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: to me. And that's the challenge with Richardson is at

785
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: some point you also didn get to a point where

786
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: you're too far gone right enough times past.

787
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Speaker 3: And that's the thing, like, and that's why I was

788
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: curious to shit. I thought after they signed Johns's they playing.

789
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: But there was a part of me that held off

790
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: writing that because as well, if you're the cult that

791
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: you just say, the hell of it, we're gonna play him.

792
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna play, you know, as long as he's healthy

793
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: seventeen games and we're just gonna see did he learn

794
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: as he goes And by the end of the year

795
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: he's a lot better. Now, apparently they just don't feel

796
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: that that's GOP. Look, and this is not just not

797
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, Like I'll give you another example in the

798
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 3: league right now that's going to be talked out a

799
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: lot more of this year because they're gonna be on

800
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 3: national TV starting Week one. Cale Williams and the Bears,

801
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: I mean, that is a thing. Like he got sacked

802
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: sixty eight times last year and their offensive line was

803
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: not good. The part of that was kle Williams is

804
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: just hold on to the ball.

805
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: And get crushed. And if you go back and you watch,

806
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 2: there are times you're.

807
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: Like, man, that ball's just got out. That guy's opened

808
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 3: five yards in front of you, and it's first intent,

809
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 3: like you've got to just get rid of it. And

810
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: the games fact at times, and I was at OTA's

811
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Speaker 3: with the Bears. I was, I was at training camp

812
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: during the joint practice at the Bears, and but he

813
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: hit from million nice plays. There were also times I

814
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: stood next to a four NFL player during one of

815
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Speaker 3: the practices and sitting there talking to him and you know,

816
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: like those guys will do he break the huddle. He's like, Okay,

817
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 3: this play, he's got to go here, and that's exactly

818
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: what it should have happened. But she's hold the football

819
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: and it's like, look that ball. If you're holding the

820
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: ball for three plus seconds in the NFL, that's death.

821
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: You're either gonna get crushed or something bad's probably gonna

822
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: happen onfield. And I think for Richardson, the thing that's

823
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: really hurt him is just he has got an experience.

824
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: He's been hurt, been out of the lineup, he didn't play.

825
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't have a thousand pass attempts between

826
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: high school and college. It's hard. It's really hard that

827
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: the mass or something when you're.

828
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Speaker 1: Not doing it, you know, Matt. I remember Matt verder Rams,

829
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Speaker 1: our guest from Sports Illustrated. I remember when going back

830
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: to Manning and Tom Moore, and it's a famous story

831
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: around here probably, but early in Manning's career he was there.

832
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: They're going through live simulations and Manning holds onto the

833
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: football and Tom Moore says, what do you doing. You

834
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: got to get rid of the ball. And Manning said, well,

835
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: nobody was open, and Tom Moore said, that's where you're wrong.

836
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: Everybody on that field was NFL open. They're not SEC open,

837
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: but they're NFL open. And Manning talks about how you

838
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: had to learn that, right. The window is a third

839
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: of what it is in terms of the college time.

840
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: And I think being able to recognize that, Matt, is

841
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: what is so hard for guys, right, and even the best,

842
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: even the best, Yeah, I think it struggles to learn.

843
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 4: That, right.

844
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 3: It's no, it's so true. Look, you know, I was

845
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: actually talking to college about all this stuff the other

846
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: day about quarterbacks, and you know, look, it's it's when

847
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: you're playing like let's just say, take Richardson tut so, Okay,

848
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: you're playing best team if you're playing Alabama playing Georgia,

849
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: that team might have defensively speaking, three to four NFL

850
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: starters on it, and the rest of those guys are

851
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: by NFL standards, are guys like you can throw the

852
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: ball past the linebackers here, you can throw on that corner.

853
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: That safety runs a four to seven, Like that guy's

854
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: not closing in time you get to the NFL. I

855
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: don't care who you are. If you're in the NFL

856
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: and you're playing, you're not a four to seven safety,

857
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: you're running a four, four to five. You can drive

858
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: on the ball you are. You're breaking on a ball

859
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: based on the nation and knowing, Okay, this guy split

860
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: his X, I know that based on that spit, he

861
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: can run these two routes. And I know that guy

862
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 3: runs out the one route three times more than he

863
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: runs the other out. And I'm going to break before

864
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: he even throws the football. And that's that's the game

865
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: within the game that college doesn't exist. The other part

866
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: of it is if you watch the college game this Saturday,

867
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: we'll get the hash marks on the field, how wide

868
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: they are when the balls on one side of the field.

869
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: I thought the coaches about salot recently. When the balls

870
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: on one side of the field. That other side, that

871
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: wide side is huge. I mean there's acres of space

872
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: to just flip the ball out there that doesn't exist

873
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Right, There's no easy little foot throw

874
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: for eight yards in the NFL. There's no wide side

875
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: like that. So it's the openness that you get on

876
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: ten fifteen throws in college football every game that doesn't

877
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: exist at the NFL level.

878
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Matt, I'm gonna I'm going to introduce you to

879
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: this little game we've done. In conclusion, I appreciate your

880
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: time at verte Ram because I know you're a busy guy,

881
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: especially this time of year. But we've been doing this

882
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: all week. I'm going to give you three categories. I

883
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: want you to tell me for each the team that

884
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: immediately comes into the head of Matt verde Ram. Okay,

885
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I'll describe the team for this season, and then you

886
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: tell me which one it matches. Okay, Team number one.

887
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: This is the team that you haven't thought a lot about.

888
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: You haven't written a lot about him, there's not a

889
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: lot of conversation about him. But late October early November,

890
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're gonna go, are they good?

891
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: Like they're six and three now, and I think they

892
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: might actually be good and they just kind of become

893
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: that team that you're like, yeah, they had a nice year.

894
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: They're the Washington Commanders of this year, like Washington did

895
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: last year. That team for you this year is most

896
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: likely to.

897
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 3: Be who they won't go as far as Washington, But

898
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 3: I think it's New England. I think New England's gonna

899
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: make the playoffs because I think May is good. I

900
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: think it'd be really good. McDaniels is a terrible head

901
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: coach because a go offensive coordinator, and Rafels a very

902
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 3: good head coach. They added a lot in free agency.

903
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: I love their draft. I think all four of the

904
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: first guys they took to fighting Henderson's gonna be real

905
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: good immediately in the backfield. I don't think they're going

906
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: to challenge Buffalo to win the division, but I think

907
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: they're a nine or ten win team.

908
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: Okay, team number two. This is one that you know,

909
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: there's usually some talk about them, some conversation. They're kind

910
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: of slotted as a playoff potential team, and yet all

911
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden around November, you're gonna go. I don't

912
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: think this is gonna get footing for them this year

913
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: that they're just stuck in neutral and they're this year's Bengals,

914
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: And I don't know what's going on. That's who the Niners.

915
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't. I don't see it, Like

916
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: maybe I'm dead wrong. I've hurt Kittles older. McCaffrey is

917
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: not older for a running back. He's getting older and

918
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: he's hurt a lot. Williams is older. Defensively, it's it's

919
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 3: it's two guys. It's Warner and it's Bosa and it

920
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: is nobody else. I just I don't know. I think

921
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: that's I would not be shocked if they finished starting.

922
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: I think they're like a second okay.

923
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: And then lastly, not named the Dallas Cowboys, the franchise

924
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: that after a month or so, it's like, here comes

925
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: the drama. There was a fight in the locker room.

926
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: Supposedly this guy is unhappy. There's tension with the coaches,

927
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know what, this is the Colts

928
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: bringing in Jeff Saturday midyear level total dysfunction and it's

929
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: just a year that is wasted.

930
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: That franchise, the team that will be in Indianapolis on Sunday,

931
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: not named the coult. I. I just I look at

932
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: the Dolphins and I'm not a big like Vibes guy.

933
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: I kind of gets over it. That team has been

934
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: a disaster this summer. If anything could go, I feel

935
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 3: like we're like a half a football way from Tyreek

936
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: hilt is like openly asking to be traded during halftime, like.

937
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: Brown's right, yeah, yeah, I think they're.

938
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: Gonna go to like Evan Washer and whoever the hell's

939
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: in the sideline fack game with Tyreek Kilts just told

940
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: me he wants to be traded, Like, I just I

941
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: don't know. You look at them, like their first two

942
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: games of the Colts and their home to Miami, their

943
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: home to New England in Miami, and then by the

944
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: building on a Thursday night in week three in Buffalo.

945
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: It builds like they've better win those first two games,

946
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: and I don't think they're gonna But if they do,

947
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: like that might be it solved for them a little bit.

948
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: If they start out onto it and they're going to Buffalo,

949
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: I feel like Mike McDaniel's looking at his job in

950
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: like the middle of October. But yeah, I just I

951
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: don't see it at all with them. I'd be shocked.

952
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: If they're good, Eddie, you haven't had the breaking news.

953
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: Cunder this just in things starting to look up towards

954
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: the Colts perhaps winning their first season opening game in

955
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: eleven seasons. Matt, do you want to buy?

956
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm them?

957
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: Do you want to guess? If you get this right?

958
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: Matt verde Ram, I will actually go down right now.

959
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: I will have Eddie finish the show. I will walk

960
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: down to the Taco Bell cantina by you gift cards

961
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: and a box and ship it out east to you

962
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: right now. You ready, if you get this right? The

963
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: starting quarterback of the opposition. The last time that the

964
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts won a game in Week one was who.

965
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: Oh my god? We was like eleven years ago.

966
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: AFC West AFC.

967
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 3: All right, I mean I'll throw a dar here and say,

968
00:45:59,360 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: got them?

969
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: Who was it?

970
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: Was it? Manning? No? It was a looking man now, okay.

971
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: I mean got it was it was a good that's

972
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: a good. Guess was it?

973
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 3: Did they beat the Raiders?

974
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: They did?

975
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: Okay, it's just some clown who is a car?

976
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: Some clown? He says it's a raider.

977
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: It's a Raider. They've been atrocious for twenty five years.

978
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 3: It could have been anybody.

979
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: The ar change position. The Raiders, by the way, are

980
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: my pick, Matt. For what you said about the Patriots,

981
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders this year are going to be

982
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: surprisingly good. Not I'm not saying great, but I think

983
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: they're going to be competent. How's that?

984
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: But I mean they could be.

985
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: The hard thing for them is just that position. But

986
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: on the flip side, I don't think the Chargers are good,

987
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: So maybe the Raiders are better than the Chargers. I mean,

988
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: be interesting, you.

989
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: Know, for the answer. What if I told you free

990
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: tattoos in college? Oh my god, he switched positions. Yeah,

991
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: he was in the pros. Correct, he became a receiver

992
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: prior prior, baby.

993
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I I don't know if

994
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: I'm hanging the banner of that one.

995
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: If I'm the Colts, that counts as half a win.

996
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: But we take it.

997
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: Well, I said when I when you said it was

998
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: the Raiders, I'm like, it's it's gonna be something ridiculous.

999
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a there was a playoff getting

1000
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: still like Connor Cook or something like. There's some ridiculous

1001
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: thing that your car got hurt. Matt mccloye.

1002
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Yeah, he had a hot girlfriend,

1003
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: that guy. They kept showing her in the crowd. I

1004
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: remember that much.

1005
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: The game wasn't working.

1006
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, Matt, are you going to watch the Dolphins

1007
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: Colts game from Club Applebee's I'm actually.

1008
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: Gonna watch it?

1009
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: No, thank god, no the answer.

1010
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: I am gonna watch it from New York, flying out there.

1011
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be out there for the weekend, see a

1012
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 3: little family, and then work from out there and then

1013
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: come back and cover Vikings Bears and then Packers Commanders

1014
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: on Thursday. And uh no, I am gonna. I'll be

1015
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: keeping an eye though the Colts. If they lose to

1016
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, every alarm bell.

1017
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: In the world should go off, But that they have

1018
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: to win.

1019
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: That game they opened the Colts. Do they open a

1020
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: home with two of them? The Dolphins and the Broncos,

1021
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: two teams, as I mentioned that, they may well be

1022
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: if they are hoping to be a wild team. You

1023
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they gotta win one, if not

1024
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: beath of them.

1025
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: You gotta win those those games like they counted a

1026
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: game and a half. You're right, you're talking about you know,

1027
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: I mean it's Look, I don't think Miami is gonna

1028
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: be there, but if you're the coult that's gonna be,

1029
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: have to win and then Denver like it's not like

1030
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 3: Denver's offense is unbelieved, go out there and wins seventeen.

1031
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: Thirteen with Daniel Jones. That's the game plan, right, that's it, Matt.

1032
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: We appreciate it, Man as always, safe.

1033
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: Travels to you, all right, Hey, thanks a lot to

1034
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: take care of.

1035
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: All right, Matt verde Ram, who is NonStop energy. Guy's

1036
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: great