1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan Morning Show 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: on nuety three five and one oh seven five The Fan. 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: You were listening to the Fan Morning Show on Sports 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Radio ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan. 5 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: Good morning. 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: Is a chilly, chilli Wednesday, minus five degrees. That's not 7 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: the feels like temperature. That's the actual temperature, apparently the 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: feels like temperature. 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Thank goodness. 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: There's no strong winds right now, Kevin. That's minus eleven 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: right now. You imagine I've had a big gust of 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: wind coming up, you'd be down to minus twenty in 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: some case. 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 4: And I think we've had a few two hour lays 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 4: turn into closings. 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean keep an eye on your phones. 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, keep your eyes out for that. 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: Again, my car wouldn't start this morning, so it is, 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: yeah commute. Why roads are you know, pristine, but they're 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: certainly very very manageable. But yeah, starting your car as 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 4: Sociavie park outdoors like I do. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: Good luck, man, I'm just glad you got here today. 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: And of course James Boyd not feeling well. He'd let 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: us know about that. Last night was really starting to 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: feel under the weather. So we hope he gets better 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: in a big hurry. Here, you were bringing up some 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: text message exchanges that people might be interested in not 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 3: too long ago. 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 4: By the way, Greg Rakestraw's playing tennis right now indoors. 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 5: Yes, well still he's up. 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 6: At seven am playing tennis. 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: He's Greg Rakestraw. Does he sleep after a long night 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: with Do you think he sleep ors? 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: Truly? 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 6: Last night? 36 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: Again, I mean yesterday, just one of my favorite days 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: of the year. Rake told me he picked me up 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: at two thirty. What time do you guys think he 39 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: got outside my house? Two fifteen, two twenty four. Yeah, 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: so it works. 41 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 6: He's on tom coffin time. 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 7: Carl Ryan, do you just run outside like a kid 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 7: like I'm win or break when you see his car pull. 44 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: I brought a shovel for us, just in case. Shovel 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: in the back seat. That those are two things I brought, 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: you know, he told us Mark we had him on sand. 47 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: He didn't want any you know, Mountain dew that's kind 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: of been a go to here in recent years. But 49 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: I did bring him a few oreos. I left those 50 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 4: in the car for him. I didn't want to partake 51 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: in any of them. But yes, literally, my favorite day 52 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 4: of the year. I was so nervous at halftime, I 53 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: went and got to Rito Walking Taco. Is there a 54 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: greater invention than that? 55 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 5: Those are excellent? 56 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 6: And now Notre Dame serves beer. 57 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: Oh, I totally forgot about that nice tall boy too 58 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 4: hard and it start the season? Yeah, football season started 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 4: in the fall there, but yeah again, top five loss. 60 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 4: I ranked it fifth on my worst losses of my life. 61 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: And I get to the car last night, I am 62 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: trying to dial up the IU Purdue game. My hands 63 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: are literally freezing. Ryan Boone and I are trading text 64 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: about the state of the program, and I get this 65 00:02:54,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: text from one Rick Carlisle three words, long ride home. 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 7: Drop the hammer on you. 67 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 6: Oh, unbelievable. 68 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 7: You debated whether you should give him the invite last night. 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 5: I don't think you. 70 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: Would have left the roa that we should have invited 71 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: Rick Carlisle. 72 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 6: I think I offered up a shotgun, did I not? Mark? 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: And Rick Carlile text me long ride home, Rick. 74 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: Carlisle, of course, Virginia guy. 75 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: Is he going to be Is he going to bring 76 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 4: more of that up at nine thirty when he joins 77 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: us today? 78 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: I guess he's going to bring that up unbelievable, his 79 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: alma mater, the Cavaliers, your favorite team, Notre Dame. 80 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: Now, how should I have handled that response? Am I 81 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: allowed to talk? 82 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: You know? 83 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 4: Do I treat that text like it's Mark Dyton text 84 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: to me? 85 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 7: Did you send a response to it? Or did you 86 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 7: just go on red? 87 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 6: So you would you be good? If I said bleep off? 88 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: What would what would Rick Carlile respond? 89 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: I met this like if you are a Purdue fan 90 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: and you whatever went to Assembly Hall last night, and 91 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: you walk out to your car and your Indiana buddy 92 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: texts you that you're probably not responding in the most 93 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: politically correct manner. 94 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 6: So should I have treated Rick Carlile like that? 95 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: Or should I have been a little bit more respectful 96 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: of the Hall of Famer? 97 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: I think he opened the door. 98 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 7: I think you're allowed to respond how you want to respond? 99 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, once, once he drops that, you get 100 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: You've now entered. You've been invited into the conversation. 101 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 7: At that point, he knows you're a fan, he knows you, 102 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 7: he knows you are emotionally fragile. At that point, Oh. 103 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 4: And he I mean that that was one of the 104 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: more emotionally fragile states I've been in a while. I'm 105 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 4: worried about Rake and I just making it to the 106 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: car and not falling. 107 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: I'm thinking there may be one or two Rick Carlisle 108 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: drops in coming later on this this morning. 109 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: Mark, I got a few more things to share about 110 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 4: the day it was. It was incredible. But speaking of basketball, 111 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: we forgot to mention this in the check down. No, 112 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: it ran a little late. Pacers of course back in 113 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: action tonight. They start some home games here after their 114 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: long road trip. They've got the bulls inside of gamebridge 115 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: Field House and a massive one for Butler. You know, 116 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: we talk about this with bubble teams as we start 117 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: to enter February. You know, Indiana got their first Quad 118 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: one win of the season last night. They only had 119 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: I believe one Quad two win going into last night, 120 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: so Indian his resume was about as dry as dry 121 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: can be from a quality win standpoint, particularly for a 122 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: high major Butler. They only have three Quad one chances 123 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: left now. They have several Quad one wins already, but 124 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 4: this is one of those opportunities. At Saint John's Knight. 125 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: They are a big underdog twelve and a half, which 126 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: is a huge, huge number here so you know, again, 127 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: the Big East doesn't. 128 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 5: Afford to con of these opportunities. 129 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 4: But this is a huge, huge Did that come over 130 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: the airwaves? 131 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 8: That was me? 132 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: That was an action, that was the Virginia fans all 133 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: around the station. 134 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 7: Well, no, I was trying to find something. 135 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: You know. 136 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 7: I figured if Rick. 137 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 4: Carlisle kissed my ass on this Wednesday morning, oh wow. 138 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 7: I figure Rick Carlisle will tell you about that Notre 139 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 7: Dame game. 140 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 8: He'll get over it. 141 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: You invited us into the chat. 142 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 4: Can you go sit over in James Boyd to see 143 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: over Kevin needs some socially Jeff so close to me 144 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: right now? 145 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: Good? Four feet away. Let's we're all good. We're all good. 146 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: One other note in college basketballlast night you see a 147 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: Nebraska's undefeated season finally came to an. 148 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: End Arizona Miami, Ohio. I saw my Ohio escape there. 149 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 4: Rake and I talked about the RedHawks Pete Suitter there. 150 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: Watch any of the Arizona b WHATYU game? I did? 151 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually did. I was very impressed Arizona. That 152 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: was the first time that I had really seen them. 153 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: So yeah again, butler huge one, just a massive one 154 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: tonight they'll get Yukon again at home, though, I think 155 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: it's a trip to Nova if I remember correctly, and 156 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: remember Saint John's and Butler played a great first half 157 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: a few weeks ago inside a Hinkle forty two all 158 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: at half, and then Saint John's dropped the hammer on them. 159 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 4: Butler had a million turnovers. So it is a big 160 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: one on the road for Thad Matta's bunch tonight. 161 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: Uh looking forward to that and again Pacers they're playing 162 00:06:59,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: you know there. 163 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: They just find a way. 164 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: Every time you think that it's just going to be 165 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: another long losing streak or they can't get things going, 166 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: they just find a way. And I said this last week, 167 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: maybe you can bring it up later on. I think 168 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: this is one of the when it's all said and 169 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: done at the end of the season, you might say 170 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: that Rick Carlisle's having one of his best. 171 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: Years as a head basketball coach. 172 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 3: I just feel like he's consistently developing guys, finding ways 173 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: to stay in a lot of games, finding ways to 174 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: win games you're not. 175 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: Supposed to win, like at Oklahoma City. 176 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: More importantly, he hasn't lost anybody on that team. You 177 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: see that the way that they interact with each other 178 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: on the bench. They don't look like a team with 179 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: one of the worst records in the NBA. They're still 180 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: with each other, they still have each other's backs. And 181 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: he's done it with a million different lineups already this year. 182 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: You're trying to get me to say something about Rick 183 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: Carlile positive this morning. 184 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: Good luck. 185 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: I'll let you stand on that island alone. 186 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I should make you chief petty officer today. 187 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: Jarris Walker questionable. You go to see Tyrey's Haliburton on 188 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: Lebron's podcast? 189 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 6: What does it mind? 190 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 9: The game? 191 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 8: What is it? 192 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 5: I forget The exact title of the podcast is do 193 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: you guys catch up? Yesterday? 194 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: I saw snippets of it. I haven't seen the whole podcast. 195 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, in typical Tyree's fashion, very very candid about 196 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: a ton of things. I laughed at his Olympic retell 197 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: of the story, he said one of their first meetings 198 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: as an Olympic team, Steve Kerr is explaining, Hey, we've 199 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: got twelve future Hall of Famers in here. It's gonna 200 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: be tough to play everybody. You know, some of you 201 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: in this room are not gonna play. I believe, he 202 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: shared a story about maybe Kevin Durant's first Olympics, maybe 203 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: even Lebron's first Olympics, and Tyree said, he's starting to 204 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: look around the room. He's like, I'm okay, I wonder 205 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: who the guys are that he's talking about, who are 206 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: not going to play. So he starts scanning the room 207 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: and he's like, oh, believe he's talking about me? 208 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: And he was, Yes, he was. 209 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 5: So I had a laugh at that. 210 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: But from a Achilles rehab standpoint, sounds like he is 211 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: doing a lot. 212 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 5: He said. 213 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 4: He actually was playing recently some full court with Benedict 214 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: Matherin as mather was rehabbing to get back, and he said, Matherin, 215 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: you know, first possession down, pulls up, shoots a three 216 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: in his face and the coaches are kind of yelling 217 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: at Matherin like no, no, no, attack him, you know, 218 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: try and you know test him out here. And Matherin's 219 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 4: looking at him. Guys like what about the Achilles and 220 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 4: they're like no, no, no, this is what you know. 221 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: He's reached this point in the rehab process. And Haliburton says, 222 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 4: Matherin comes down the next trip down the floor, hesitation 223 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: like he's gonna shoot the three drives by and lays 224 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: it in and Haliburton's still the three point line. Oh, 225 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: and that's when it was a reminder of like, okay, 226 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: I still have a ways to go here in the 227 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: in the old Achilles rehab. But yeah, just some really 228 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: interesting stuff there. And again Rick Carlia joon is coming 229 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: up nine to thirty chat more about them. 230 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: Think about Benedict Mathern in that moment though, even though 231 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: he's been told this is this is necessary, please do this. 232 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: You know that as he's making that move, he's thinking, 233 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to be the guy that messes this 234 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: up again. You know that's in the back of his mind, right, 235 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: But he did what he was supposed to do. So 236 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: we'll look forward to the Pacers a little bit later 237 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: on tonight, coming off that that win against Oklahoma City 238 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: last Friday. 239 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: Night, that that was big stuff and hopefully. 240 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: They can start moving forward and building only on that 241 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: and not some of the losses that they've had lately. 242 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: Is they I don't know, how good do you want 243 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: them to be moving forward? That's the question a lot 244 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: of people have though, too. 245 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: Kevin. 246 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: I don't think they're in danger of giving up any 247 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: one of those lottery protected picks at this point in time, are. 248 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: They well, yeah, I mean the pick is not yeah, 249 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: I mean the pick is going to be the Pacers. 250 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: It's not. I think if they would have kept their pick, 251 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 5: it would have to be top four on. 252 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 4: The protection there, and that's where you want to finish. 253 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: The top four, I believe is where the odds start 254 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: to change. Me he's top three. I need to double 255 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: check that. But again, the odds don't change significantly. I 256 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: think it goes from like fourteen percent to twelve percent. 257 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: But still, I just don't want to have the fifth 258 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: best or fifth worst record in the league. You don't 259 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: want to play yourself out of That was my point. 260 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: Why But you know, even then it's still what ten percent? 261 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like you know, they've redone the 262 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: lottery odds. It's not, you know, the most egregious thing 263 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: off all of a sudden, I. 264 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: Want to start every single percentage of winning the game 265 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: for this team, because man, if they get the right guy, 266 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: who do you like out of the two biggies right now? 267 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: Do you like Boozer? Do you like de Bonsa? Who 268 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: do you like? 269 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 8: Yeah? 270 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 5: I don't know. 271 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: I mean honestly the Darren Peterson and I mentioned Caleb 272 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: Wilson Williams, right, you know that's those guys to me, 273 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: offer a little bit more of a ceiling there. 274 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 5: AJDAVANTSA. 275 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I know we really struggled last night or 276 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: Monday night, but you can certainly see it there. So 277 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: i'd say him Peterson Wilson, that's probably where I go. 278 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: I mean to get boozers extremely polished. But I don't 279 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: know if the high end potential is necessarily as there 280 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: and if you are going to trade a wing not 281 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: the positional importance probably needs to be adhered to the most. 282 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 5: But you know there is. 283 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: That thought process you know about potentially you know, finding 284 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 4: another wing. 285 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: All right. 286 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: Last night, Indiana comes up with a win at Assembly Hall. 287 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: They get their first quad one win of the year, 288 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: first big winning Darren Debrees' career as they beat Produce 289 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: seventy two to sixty seven. They at one point had 290 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: a fourteen point lead, Perdue got it all the way 291 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: down to three before Indiana was able to hold serve 292 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: and do enough to. 293 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: Win that game by five. At the very end. 294 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: After the game, in the locker room, Darren Debrees head 295 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: coach for the Indiana Hoosiers addressing his team. 296 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 10: Man, I'm proud of you, and we went through a 297 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 10: rough stretch and we did. But what you didn't do 298 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 10: was you didn't turn on each other. Right. You continue 299 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 10: to believe in yourself. You continue to believe in the 300 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 10: work you put in, and then the details started to 301 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 10: coming out. It's two to row, okay, and that's a 302 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 10: hell of them win. That's a good basketball team. And 303 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 10: you had to earn every single inch of it, which 304 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 10: I love. 305 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 8: Right. 306 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: They came back at you and you you you dug 307 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: in deeper, and that's that's what good teams do. 308 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 10: They find ways to win. Okay. You found a way 309 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 10: to win at Rutgers. You found a way to win 310 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 10: the day. 311 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 11: And we're gonna find more ways to win over there 312 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 11: if you keep believing in the details and the work 313 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 11: that you've been putting in. 314 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 10: Because you've been putting it in since June, and when 315 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 10: you believe. 316 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: In one another, and we got guys coming, We had 317 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: contributions from everybody. 318 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 10: Everybody. That's what this is about. Man, that's the feeling 319 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 10: you should really love because that's what this game. I 320 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 10: told you at the bottom thing, Number one thing we 321 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 10: want to do. 322 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: Tonight just go have fun, joy being together, and enjoy 323 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: that camaraderie together, because that's. 324 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 10: The feeling you can't ever replace. Small, right, hell of win, 325 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 10: Let's get it. 326 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: You know, when you look at their last several games 327 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: for Indiana, they had a four game winning streap going 328 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 3: for a minute there. Uh, then they lost to Nebraska. 329 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a big shame there. They only 330 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: lost by six. They lost to Michigan State eight on 331 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: the road. They were thumped pretty well there. I think 332 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: the most disappointing in that stretch was probably losing at 333 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: home to Iowa. 334 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: Then they lost to Michigan. 335 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 3: But now you know, you expected them to maybe beat 336 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: Rutgers on the road, but that how do you even 337 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: overstate how big that win was for this team. 338 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to. 339 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: See where they go from here as they head out 340 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: out of their West coast trip. 341 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: Right now to take on UCLA and USC next. 342 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: But is this the kind of game that can spring 343 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: board them up to another level right now? 344 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 8: Yeah? 345 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I think what Nick Dorn now gives 346 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: him the starting lineup I think is very intriguing. You know, 347 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: for those that haven't followed the Nick Dorn story. You know, 348 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: he's a transfer from Elon. He was one of the 349 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: few transfers they got with multiple years of eligibility. You know, 350 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: a lot of these guys are just one and done's 351 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 4: a lot of their main guys. But you know, you 352 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: watch Dorn, he had a very nice I think it 353 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: was a sophomore season at Elon about battles some injuries 354 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: in the offseason. It's taken him a while to get 355 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: a spot not only in the rotation but now starting. 356 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: And you know, they're is naturally a little bit bigger 357 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: when he starts taking Connorway's dealing with the ankle injury 358 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: during as much taller and you know, you saw it 359 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: last night, several big shots from him. He was certainly 360 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: really good against Rutgers on Friday. And if Tucker, Devreese 361 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: Andel or Lamar Wilkerson have an off night, you know 362 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: you have a little bit more firepower in that starting 363 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: lineup to go with it. So I think that is 364 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: an intriguing aspect to this team now moving forward. It's 365 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 4: you know a little bit of a different wrinkle than 366 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: we saw earlier in the season. 367 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 5: But you know, to overstate the win. 368 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: I mean, given their resume, I mean, their resume was 369 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: one of the you know, from a quality wins standpoint, 370 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: he's one of the poorest in college basketball at a 371 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: high major level for a team that is, with the 372 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: record that they have. You know, if you look across 373 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: you know, Quad one or Quad two, so just massive, 374 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: especially when you go out west. You know, now you 375 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: feel like, hey, as long as you get to split 376 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: out West, you are, you know, in a nice position. 377 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: And they've got a ton of other Quad one chances 378 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: coming their way. But boy, it got a little nervy 379 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: there late. They got a little clinchy and Joe Dirt 380 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: Kenny Powers at the shot of his life. 381 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and in a couple of weeks too, they got 382 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: a two game road trip Man Illinois and Purdue for Indiana. 383 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: That's gonna be a tough couple of games right there. 384 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: If they could find a way to get a split 385 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: there some way, then they're probably in pretty good shape 386 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: and that would that would help them out. But yeah, 387 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: they have lots of opportunities for Quad one wins, but 388 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: man tough, tough on the road. They'll they'll play Michigan 389 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: State again at home later on, but some of the 390 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: road games they have remaining after this West coast swing 391 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: for Indiana, Illinois, Purdue, Ohio State. 392 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 7: You like, the national champs in the house last night 393 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 7: suited Signetti. 394 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: He grabbed the mic pregame. I was still living and 395 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 4: dying in South Bend during that. 396 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: He did that. 397 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 7: I didn't see what he said. 398 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: I didn't see it on the game. 399 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, they came out with the trophy and all that stuff, 400 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 7: and they said he was sitting courtside and didn't turn 401 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 7: a single person away that asked for our picture an autograph. 402 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: That's the only clip that I did see on social 403 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: media last night, as he was just sitting there on 404 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: the front row and everybody and everybody came up to him. 405 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: He had a moment for him that was pretty cool. 406 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, Anthey Calhoun and the WISH TV team. 407 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: They got a great shot of him calling Jamari Sharp 408 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: over the tunnel. Looked like they played some sort of 409 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: montage on the Jumbo Trump before the game and he 410 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 4: called Jamari Sharp over to I assume point to the 411 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 4: course the interception highlight there and looking back on it, 412 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 4: you know, it seemed like a pretty good crowd honestly, 413 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: you know, for at nine o'clock game with Southern Indiana 414 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: got a lot worse. I was the one thing I 415 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 4: noticed driving up to South Bend yesterday. They got so 416 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: much less snow. Like I mean, I'm talking Hamilton County, Kocomo, 417 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: you know, Peru Rochet. I mean, South Bend got a 418 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: good amount from that, you know, really kind of apocalyptic snow. 419 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 4: They got a couple of weeks ago. It's still lingering there. 420 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 4: But honestly, thirty one was a breeze compared to what 421 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 4: we have here in the city or even south of here. 422 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: I saw all kinds of video yesterday over on the highways, 423 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 3: especially on the west side, and you pointed out that 424 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: some of it was closed in the morning when we 425 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 3: were on yesterday. 426 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: People still sliding around all over with the place on 427 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: the freeways yesterday. 428 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 7: I was driving home after the show yesterday. I was 429 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 7: on Tenth Street going past. I was getting parallel from 430 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 7: the ims and this car was going two car lengths 431 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 7: in front of me, directly straight, and immediately like went 432 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 7: to the right and hit a snow bank. I'm like, 433 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 7: what the hell just happened. I've never seen that before. 434 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 7: You're going directly straight and then just immediately turned and 435 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 7: went into the snow bank, like, well, I can't help you, sir. 436 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 7: I got a little sedan here. I'm not gonna be 437 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 7: able to help you do much. So I had to 438 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 7: keep on driving. But I was like, what, I don't 439 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 7: even understand how that had just occurred. Very odd. 440 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 3: So again, because mostly the cold, there's going to be look, 441 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: look and check this morning, most schools were on delay anyway, 442 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 3: and Kevin, you said, you're starting to see some cancelations 443 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: around there, I thought. 444 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 4: And Mark, feel free to chime, man, I thought, I 445 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 4: saw a couple of school districts have bumped the two 446 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: hour delay up to a close. So just FYI on that. 447 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: I would uh our sister's stition. 448 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 7: Wbviously dot com does a great job of updating those 449 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 7: delays and closings. I would keep an eye on. 450 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: Mark, maybe through a retweet from the show show account. 451 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: I will look that up on that. So if you 452 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 4: follow us on the show account fan Morning Show one 453 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: oh seven five, mark' throw a retweet there on some 454 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 4: of the school closings. Boy, the connor enright shot was 455 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: that one of those no no, no, yes, yes yes shots? 456 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: It worked just yes. At the bottom of the that. 457 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 4: It's kind of funny. I think back to that play 458 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 4: and you would cut into two. Indiana had B two. 459 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: I thought it was three. Did they get it down 460 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: to two? Maybe they did. 461 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: I thought it was for some reason, I thought sixty 462 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 4: five sixty three is standing down in my mind. But 463 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: feel free to correct me on that. Clearly, I was 464 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: still in the days over Rick Carlisle's text. But you know, 465 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 4: you look at that possession and Indiana had missed front 466 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: end of a one to one, after front end of 467 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 4: a one to one, after front end of a one 468 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: to one, and like, if you're going to shoot a 469 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 4: shot that early in the shot clock off of you know, 470 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: one pass, you probably wanted to be Devrees or Wilkerson 471 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 4: of any one. And you know, Jack Bener's not really 472 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: totally on connor En right there, and boy, as soon 473 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: as he caught that ball right in front of the bench, 474 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 4: it it was just let it fly. 475 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: And what a shot. 476 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: I mean, boy, if he misses that, who knows how 477 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 4: the rest of the game plays out there. So obviously, 478 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 4: whether it's Robert Fennessy or you know, there's been many 479 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 4: other moments in this series that would you know, bigger 480 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 4: shots but uh, that was a that was a large 481 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: one last night from mister dirt. 482 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you the other thing. I love the word 483 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: you've been using this morning, clinchy. 484 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: There was a time late in that game, you know, 485 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: five minutes and less, there were some front ends of 486 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: one on ones that Indiana couldn't quite bring down. 487 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 4: Oh, I would argue that hole on the back side 488 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: was pretty clinchy when Connor and Wright caught the ball there, 489 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: fair I mean, what was the lead fifteen at one 490 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: point something like that. 491 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 2: I think I think fourteen might have been the biggest, 492 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: but it was just. 493 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: The slow wilts and just the one and ones. Anytime 494 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 4: the home team misses one and one's late and you 495 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: just feel. 496 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: The groan of the crowd, and. 497 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: You know, perdue, I don't think I'm trying to think 498 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: they maybe had one possession with the ball when they 499 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: were down when it was only one score game. But 500 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: you know that obviously would have happened there, you know, 501 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: and Brandon Smith and Treyauffman Wrenn. I know they had 502 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: a couple turnovers, but you know they were starting to 503 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 4: get going a little bit there, and yeah, I think 504 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: that's one of the few positives from Perdue for last night. 505 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 4: It's like Trey Kauffman. Wren did find a little bit 506 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: more of his normal self there. But that was probably 507 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: one of the more animated I've seen Matt Paynter in 508 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 4: a postgame press conference. 509 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 5: He was he was pretty fired up. 510 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 4: You know, if he looks at UCLA and he looks 511 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: at Illinois, you know his team had leads five and 512 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: six points at those final media timeouts last night. I 513 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: think he was really frustrated with just the lack of 514 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 4: hustle and the rebounding advantage. Perdue just had a very 515 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 4: slight advantage in that realm, and that is one that 516 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 4: Purdue should have a consistent advantage, particularly against a team 517 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 4: that lacks some size like that. 518 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had it down to three with ten seconds 519 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 3: to go, and then they found Lamar Wilkerson and he 520 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: made both free throws there, and that was kind of 521 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: the end of it at that point in time. 522 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: But they kept battling to the very score. 523 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 6: And in right hit the three. 524 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: In right hits that three two. I'll double check it, 525 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: but that made it six. 526 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right. It was sixty five sixty three. 527 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 3: And then he hits the three to make it a 528 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: five point game. So it did get to a two 529 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: point game at one point in time, right after I 530 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: think Brayden Smith hit that nice little layup got within two. 531 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: So seventy two to sixty seven. 532 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: That was the final score, and Indiana holds on and 533 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: that's a big one for them at that point in time, 534 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: and all kinds of people checking in there, one or 535 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: two people saying that Matt Pater was responsible for that 536 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: one last night. 537 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I'm going there, Kevin. I didn't 538 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: see that so much. 539 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I thought, honestly, just again a lack 540 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: of rebounding. And you know, we talked a little bit 541 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 4: about this. You know, I was trying to kind of 542 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 4: double screen it there in the first half. But you know, 543 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: talk of Reese. It's at early three in the game, 544 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: and you know, again, how do you guard them? And 545 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: you know, I think there were some times where and switches. 546 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: We've seen it with this Purdue defense this season. They 547 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: struggle if you can put enough shooters out on the floor. 548 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: And that's where you look at from an Indiana standpoint, 549 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: I mean, how many threes they hit? 550 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 6: Ten or eleven? 551 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: You got the box score up there. 552 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: But you know, it's not like it was a crazy 553 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: flamethrower night from three. I mean, they obviously hit. 554 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 2: They got cold in the second half. They were doing 555 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: okind at first. 556 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: Get them out, but from percentage standpoint, they've definitely had 557 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: better shooting nights this season there and again Prdue just 558 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: couldn't find that third guy. You know, Lawyer struggled a 559 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: little bit there, and really Braden Smith f how great 560 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 4: he's been his Purdue career, the games at Assembly Hall, 561 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 4: he hasn't been at that peak, you know, first team 562 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 4: All American level there. So definitely a little bit of 563 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 4: a really reelling time here. Pretty I think it's got 564 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 4: a almost say it's like Maryland and Oregon the next 565 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: two so should bounce back. But still losing three in 566 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: a row in the Big Ten, given how the standings are, 567 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard to climb out of that hole. 568 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe said Purdue fan here. 569 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: He thinks Matt Peter lost that game last night because 570 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: they played twenty seven and a half percent of the 571 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: game without their best offensive score and Trey Kaufman w 572 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: Rehn allowing him to sit up for eleven minutes. His 573 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: malpractice It's interesting because our biggest Purdue fan around here, 574 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: Todd Meyer, and I were talking about this the other day. 575 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that. 576 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 3: He and Braden Smith are one hundred percent right now, 577 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 3: and I think to a certain extent Matt might be 578 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: managing some of the health with t k R. 579 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that he's completely right at this point. 580 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: Well, again, it's playing two bigs. 581 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: You know, I thought Oscar Cluff was really poor last night, 582 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: and in general, I thought, you know, Reaed Bailey and 583 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 4: Sam Lexis probably outplayed him and Pdue can't have that, 584 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 4: and that's a decision Produce is going to face. How 585 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 4: much do they play the two bigs together and how 586 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: much do they play Jack Benter. It's the one I think, real, 587 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: real question mark with this team. They don't have the 588 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 4: Camden Heidi Miles Colvin lineup change up that they can 589 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 4: go to that really was kind of their go to 590 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 4: lineup at times last year as they made the run 591 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: of the Sweet sixteen. So that is going to be 592 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 4: a question as the year continues to move along. 593 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: All right, double check this, but I'm getting some reports 594 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 3: that Hsee schools are now closed on the text line, 595 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: So double check that and make sure that whether it's 596 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: a delay today or they're just flat out closing because 597 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: it is so cold outside. Uh, double check before you 598 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: send your kiddos off to school or send them out 599 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: to a bus stop where the bus might not come. 600 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: So coming up in a moment, we will talk more 601 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: about Indiana's big win over Purdue last night. Also huge 602 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: controversy in the National Football League. We'll cover it next 603 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: on ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan. 604 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: If you were listening to a fan morning show on 605 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: sports Radio ninety three to five and one oh seven 606 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: five The Fan. 607 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: Well, Kevin Bowen, Mark Tyke that I'm Jeff Prickord and 608 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 3: Chief petty Officer James Boyd out today not feeling all 609 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 3: that well. We hope he gets better very soon. It 610 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 3: is dreadfully cold outside. And if you've got kids this morning, 611 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 3: you probably already know. But if you don't check your phones, 612 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: check the TV, that delayed start may indeed turn into hey, 613 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: just don't come into the building altogether. I know some 614 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: folks are gonna have asynchronous learning days where you just 615 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: have to do your assignments from home. Other folks or 616 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: just heay you it's a built in snow day. 617 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 2: Take that. 618 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: So check with your individual school and see what's going 619 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: on there for your kids. What do you guys get 620 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: out in Brownsburg? 621 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 5: Mark? 622 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 7: Back to back days of two hour delays so far, 623 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 7: I've not gotten any word that they are canceled. So 624 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 7: they had a snow day on Monday and then back 625 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 7: to back days of two hour delays. 626 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got one kid with the delay and one 627 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: with asynchronous learning. 628 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about that quite yet. 629 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 4: Brownsburg tof Mark, I wonder you guys win starting to 630 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 4: stay champs? 631 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 10: Right? 632 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: Bulldogs, Baby Bulldogs? 633 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 3: Can you guys believe it's been two hundred and nineteen 634 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: days since Tyree's Halliburton hurt the achilles. 635 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: It's a long time, two hundred and nineteen days. 636 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: You mentioned that he's doing a lot of things now, 637 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: up and running in the reap and actually playing some 638 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: basketball these days, right. 639 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mark, you got a little bit audio right from that. 640 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, he was on the podcast with Lebron and he's 641 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 7: discussing not only his rehab but also how he's trying 642 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 7: to get better himself once he does finally return to action. 643 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 9: Process has sucked, man, Like you know, there's been there's 644 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 9: been good days, bad days. There's days where I sit 645 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 9: there and I just keep asking, like why is this 646 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 9: happening to me. It's hard for me to understand in 647 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 9: this moment, but I understand that it's allowing me to 648 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 9: grow in different ways, to grow in my faith, to 649 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 9: grow in all these different ways that have been good 650 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 9: for me. I think seeing the game of basketball, I'm 651 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 9: watching it in a different light, Like I think it's 652 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 9: different when you're getting ready to play, like a team 653 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 9: like Boston for example, and they're like, Okay, we got 654 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 9: a Peyton Pritchard. I'm like, Okay, he's nice, But all 655 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 9: I'm focused on is how can I get a stop. 656 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 9: I'm not thinking about how he making his reads and stuff. 657 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 9: And I was watching him the other day and just 658 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 9: the way that he gets to guy's bodies at the rim. 659 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 9: That's really something that I'm trying to focus on through 660 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 9: my rehab, through my time you get back, is just 661 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 9: being more physical. Peyton's one of the guys I watch. 662 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 9: I see the way he can get to a guy's chest. 663 00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 8: At the rim. 664 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 9: Are is like the perfect example. The way that he 665 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 9: is so physical and can get to the free throw line. 666 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 9: I remember when we were at the World Cup together, Like, Bro, 667 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 9: I don't understand how you shoot all these free throws. 668 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 9: Like I'm a point guard. I played forty minutes a game. 669 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 9: I play way more than you. I can't even touch 670 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 9: the freethrow line. He's like Tyre's I don't think you're 671 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 9: doing a good job of getting the guy's bodies, Like 672 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 9: he was real honest with me, and I didn't understand 673 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 9: at the time. But as I've watched you guys play more, 674 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 9: watch him play more, I'm seeing the way that he 675 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 9: just does such a great job of getting the chest, 676 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 9: tangling arms, like making such all these like perfect reads 677 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 9: to get to the free throw. It is just something 678 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 9: that I'm really trying to focus on adding through through rehab, 679 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 9: and just as I watch the. 680 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: Game, even when he's hurting rehab and he's worried about 681 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: how can I be even better when I get back, I. 682 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 4: Don't know how you're not a pacer fan. And every 683 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 4: time you listen to Tyr's haliburn talk, especially in settings 684 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: like that, you don't walk away, just come blown away 685 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: by how he's wired. And you know, again his candor 686 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 4: with all of this, obviously the Oklahoma City environment was 687 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: too much. He felt like for him to be there 688 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: Friday night. But yet it's not like amidst all of 689 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 4: the doom and gloom and the long nature of this process, 690 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: he still is trying to get better. I mean he 691 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 4: brought up Peyton Pritchard and Austin Reeves. I don't know 692 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: if certainly Pritchard wouldn't be on a Bingo card of 693 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: something to bring up there, But. 694 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 6: Tyreese is right. 695 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: You know, if you're really gonna nitpick, you know, one 696 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: part of his game, it's probably yeah, he doesn't get 697 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: to the foul line maybe as some other guys do. 698 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 6: So it was a great listen. 699 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: I listened to all of it yesterday, and you know, 700 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: he told some funny stories about the Olympics, and he 701 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: kind of shared where he was at, you know, in 702 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: a workout process, actually doing some one on one stuff 703 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: with Benedict Mathern here recently as Matheren was trying to 704 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 4: get back onto the floor. He also talked about that 705 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 4: nd season championship game a few years ago against Lebron 706 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 4: and the Lakers, and he mentioned that, you know, in 707 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: that game, you know, the Pacers lost after beating Milwaukee 708 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: out in Vegas, and he felt like that was a 709 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: big moment for the franchise to later make that trade 710 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 4: for Pascal Siakam, and how you know, maybe if the 711 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 4: result of that game would have been different, maybe they 712 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: don't have as much urgency to go find I think 713 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 4: they traded for Siakam at that deadline, if I remember correctly. 714 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: So again, just anytime you hear Haliburton, I just find 715 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 4: myself a educated and be I think, if you're a 716 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 4: Pacers fan, you are just really obsessed with how much 717 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: he loves the game and wants to get better. It 718 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 4: sounds like he's put on some weight. I don't know 719 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: how much of it is great, great weight, and he. 720 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 12: Talking about cookies and ice cream in his words, So 721 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 12: you know, I'll be curious, you know, once obviously October 722 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 12: rolls around, you know, later this year exactly where he's 723 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 12: out weight wise, But you know, I think maybe that 724 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 12: could help him in his pursuit to give the line 725 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 12: a little bit more. 726 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to work out as many hours and 727 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: burn as many calories when you are still trying to 728 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: rehab what you got going on. Mark, you said there 729 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: was another great story that he was talking about that 730 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 3: you found as well. 731 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 7: It's the one I pulled. So Kevin listened the whole thing. 732 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 7: I don't know if he heard anything else of note 733 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 7: that was in there, but. 734 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I brought up the Olympic one earlier, I guess 735 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 4: for those that missed it. I shared a story about 736 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 4: Steve Kerr, you know, at the start of the Olympics saying, hey, 737 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: we got twelve Hall of Famers in this room, not 738 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 4: all of you are gonna. 739 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 6: Play blah blah blah. 740 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: Told Storry about Durant and Lebron and their early Olympic experiences, 741 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 4: and Tyresee is like, oh yes, And then I'm looking 742 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 4: around the room think himself, Okay, yeah, who's not gonna 743 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 4: play here? And Tyre says he starts scanning the room 744 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: and he's like, ill, bleep, I'm not gonna play, which. 745 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 5: You know, is kind of a funny, funny story that 746 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 5: he shared there. 747 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: So I really enjoyed that that back and forth, and 748 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I also think credit to the Pacers 749 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: for really committing to the full, full rehab early. You know, 750 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 4: obviously with the Pacers record, we're now debating, you know, 751 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 4: how much is Pascal Siakam even going to play here 752 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 4: down the stretch, but you know, there's no flirtation, there 753 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: was no pressure to think of the what if. It's 754 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: interesting how in our market, you know, the Halliburton side 755 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: of it versus the Daniel Jones It'll be what about 756 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 4: nine months for Daniel Jones and it'll be about sixteen 757 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: months for Tyrese Haliburton. You know, it's too vas very different, 758 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: you know, processes here with their respective injuries I should 759 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 4: say respective Achilles injuries. 760 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 761 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 3: Plus, if you're a basketball player, it's just it's constant running, jumping, cutting, stopping, shifting, sliding. 762 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: I mean that's literally all you do. 763 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: Not to say that the demands of being an NFL 764 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 3: quarterback aren't unbelievable, but a basketball player, it's it's just 765 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: different with a basketball player. And so you look back 766 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 3: at guys like Kobe Bryant when he came back, or 767 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: Kevin Durant when he came back. 768 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: They come back. So there's hope for that. 769 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: And now you pair him with a lottery pick and 770 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: Pascal Siakam coming back, It'll be interesting to see who 771 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: else comes back around them. And I guess we'll continue 772 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: to keep an eye on the countdown for the trade 773 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: deadline to see if the Pacers move anybody to try 774 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: and improve their front court. 775 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: And that's really where they need to focus right now. 776 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, eight days away, a week from tomorrow trade deadline. 777 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: Rick Carlile going to join us coming up nine to 778 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 4: thirty today, Pacers bowls inside a gamebridge Field House tonight. 779 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: Mark, did we mention that ricarlo I was a Virginia guy. 780 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 7: I don't think we mentioned it. We should probably mention 781 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 7: it again though. That text again, Kevin, you got from 782 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 7: him yesterday evening. 783 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: On the way back from the Notre Dame game. Yeah, 784 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: that Virginia one. I was so mad, so mad? 785 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 5: Did you guys? Did you guys? 786 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: You guys probably didn't care about it. You guys didn't 787 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: watch it? 788 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 7: Who I did not watch the highlights I saw into 789 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 7: double overtime three? 790 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 5: Get hit to force him a double highlight? 791 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, just brutal. 792 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 8: He'll get over it. 793 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 4: One thing I want to credit great Rakestraw for as 794 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 4: he might be driving back from his early morning tennis 795 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: hitting session. Thank you Rake for driving yesterday one of 796 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: my favorite days of the. 797 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 5: Year, bar Nne. 798 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: Rake allows me to kind of hit him a couple 799 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: of times during the game. 800 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: You know, I just kind of get my own how 801 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: much force? Were we talking about? 802 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 5: Get? 803 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: You know, I would say love enthusiastic shove. 804 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I think it's a love pad, 805 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: but you know it's probably I'm thirty six years old. 806 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 4: I probably should grow up at some point here. But 807 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 4: you know Big three from Colserta, Braden Shrewsbury, Jalen Harrisson, 808 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: Big takes. You know I need I need a fist pound. 809 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: Were you and your brother texting back in high five? 810 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 4: I need a little you know, jab to the side, 811 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: and Rake allows me to do that. 812 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: You and your brother texting back and forth during the 813 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: game at all? 814 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 4: Last night we exchanged a few But Rake, I mean, 815 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 4: he's my therapy session at these games. 816 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: He's I've seen Notre. 817 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 4: Dame lose to Citadel with Rake, and I've seen them 818 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: losing double overtime d Virginia on a night that I 819 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 4: thought I was going to storm him the floor. 820 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 7: Sounds like Rake is very tolerable of your antics. That's 821 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 7: what I'm getting from this whole road trip. 822 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 4: He's a tremendous human and I'm lucky to call him 823 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 4: the friend do you think when when Ray appreciate Rick 824 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 4: Carlisle text me long ride home when the game ended. 825 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 3: Do you think Rake when he's putting his schedule together 826 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 3: and he looks down on it and he's talking talking 827 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 3: to his wife about what game he's got tonight or whatever, 828 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: and goes, oh, and by the way, Tuesday night, I've 829 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: got that thing I got to do with Kevin Bowen 830 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 3: that we do every year. 831 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 7: That's how it goes for him. Every single year. I 832 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 7: bring this guy out with me. 833 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 4: All right, Well should I invite Rick Carlisle or is 834 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 4: he going to look at me like, why the. 835 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 5: Hell would I ever do that? 836 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 7: He's going to tell you he only he hangs out 837 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 7: with winners and tell you to kick rocks. 838 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: I thought market stolen his phone when I saw that 839 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: text last night. 840 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 7: So appreciation for Rick now that he's talking trash to you, 841 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 7: knowing you're down, knowing you're you're hurting, and he's sending 842 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 7: that to just needle you a little bit more as 843 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 7: you have a long drive back from South Bend. 844 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: But you want to send it to break Kevin. You 845 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: can get out of this. 846 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 7: There you go, That's all we needed. 847 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: You were listening to a Fan Morning show on Sports 848 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: Radio ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan, Oh. 849 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 5: My gosh, unbelievable. 850 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 4: Mark Tecton, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, 851 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 4: our next guest has probably heard this fight song at 852 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 4: time too. 853 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 7: I would imagine he knows all the words to it, 854 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 7: probably too. 855 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 4: Gosh, congrats the Virginia Cavaliers and the win last night. 856 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 4: The Pacers back in action tonight, Pacers and Bulls inside 857 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: a game bridge Fieldhouse. We headed the Paylisticckers hotline right 858 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 4: now and it is the head coach, Rick Carlisle coach, 859 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 4: good morning, congrats to your who's. 860 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 8: Wait game. Gosh, it was unreal. 861 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 4: Tremendous game, great back and forth. Yeah, shot making the 862 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 4: shot to send it into the second overtime. I probably 863 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: won't get over for quite a while. And yes, as 864 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 4: your text did say, it was indeed along ride home 865 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 4: for me, so thank you. 866 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 11: Well, it's hard to root against either team as that 867 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 11: game was unfolding. I mean, both teams were just going 868 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 11: so hard. 869 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 8: If Virginia was. 870 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 11: Trying to figure out, you know, how to get back 871 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 11: into it and then how to get over the hump, 872 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 11: and then you know, Notre Dame just. 873 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 8: I mean young team, and uh, yeah, I don't know 874 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 8: all the players, but. 875 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 11: You know, I mean Micah is over there coaching his 876 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 11: brains out and going just just doing everything possible. 877 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 8: His Sun hits that one shot, do you think, yeah, 878 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 8: that's it? You know, But. 879 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 11: You know, Virginia's experience and I guess in the end 880 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 11: showed through and uh and the kid, the smallest kid 881 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 11: in the court, had quite an impact Mallory, you know, 882 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 11: for them. So it was a great win for them, 883 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 11: and I'm sure there will be a lot of growth 884 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 11: for the for a young Notre Dame team. 885 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: Indeed, are you a are you a college basketball watcher? 886 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: A lot? 887 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 4: You know on off nights or how much college basketball 888 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 4: do you watch? 889 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 5: Would you say during the season. 890 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 8: I wouldn't say a lot normally. 891 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 11: But I'm quite familiar with the Virginia team because I was. 892 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 11: I was down there a lot this uh this spring 893 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 11: and fall and probably saw I don't know anywhere from 894 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 11: fifteen to eighteen of their practices and got to know 895 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 11: the team very well. And Ryan otom I'm known for ages. 896 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 11: You know, he was a ball boy when I was 897 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 11: a player back then, back in the eighties. And he's 898 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 11: doing obviously doing a phenomenal job. So I'm I'm you know, 899 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 11: I have an interest in it, and so I watched 900 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 11: I watched their games when I can. You know, they're 901 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 11: a very disappointing game against Carolina on Saturday, So that 902 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 11: was that was really tough. And then you know, the 903 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 11: first half of this game last night was even tougher 904 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 11: and then but they found a way. 905 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 8: So it was quite a night. Yeah. 906 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 4: It was channath narda staff for the game, and they 907 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 4: were very, very impressed by what Virginia's done this season. 908 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 4: Obviously saw that when the game was on the line 909 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 4: last night again Pacers Bulls tonight inside of Gambridge Fifthhouse 910 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 4: for Carlin Company. Back from a long, long road trip. 911 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 4: I do want to start with certainly one of the 912 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 4: individuals you go back to that thunder win Co and 913 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 4: that is Jaris Walker. You know, you've brought up the 914 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 4: word force a lot with him and where you want 915 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 4: to see growth in particular with him. Where have you 916 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 4: seen him grow here over the last few weeks, few. 917 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 11: Months really in all areas. You know, his level of experience, 918 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 11: you know, he's experienced a lot of the highs and lows, 919 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 11: that young players go through the expectation of being a 920 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 11: high draft pick and just feeling like it's going to 921 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 11: be an opportunity is going to be handed to you. 922 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 11: You know, in our case, you know, we uh, we 923 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 11: acquire Topping and we trade for Siakam and really it's 924 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 11: like the door was shut on the on the fore 925 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 11: position for him, and then he really trans has transitioned 926 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 11: over to the three, and he's played a lot more 927 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 11: three than four over the last couple of years. But 928 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 11: he's doing He's doing very very well. I mean been obvious. 929 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 11: His running is really good, shooting the ball great, driving 930 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 11: the ball is He's made a big uptick in his 931 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 11: ability to drive and finish. 932 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 8: Uh. 933 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 11: You know, we know defensively that he's a guy that 934 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 11: has some special abilities with his length, strength, ability to 935 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 11: get his hands on balls, things like that. And then 936 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 11: the rebounding has always been there. So uh, he's doing well. 937 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 11: And so now now the challenges to you know, to 938 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 11: maintain and to continue to move forward. 939 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 4: In Rick Carlisle with the Seer Pacers and Bulls tonight, 940 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 4: their first came back from a long road trip. I 941 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 4: was kind of reminded at the game last night. Both 942 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 4: teams certainly was looking over the bench to their respective 943 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 4: laptop challenge areas throughout that game. You you brought out 944 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 4: the camera at a great shot of it. You you 945 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 4: brought it out during the Atlanta game during a time out. 946 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 4: I assume for some sort of teaching method. Is that 947 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 4: something you do uh a lot? And I guess in 948 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: regards to that specific situation, what are you trying to 949 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 4: go for when you endgame are looking at a specific 950 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 4: whatever player sequence of plays within a time out, not 951 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 4: necessarily challenge situation. 952 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 8: But we have the. 953 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 11: Ability to bring you know, the laptop out at any 954 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 11: time it's legal, and we we bring it out virtually 955 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 11: every time out. 956 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 8: A lot of times it's it's. 957 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 11: Concealed, you know, within the crowd of players around the 958 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 11: around the bench, around the coach's seat or whatever. But 959 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 11: you know a lot of times Jim Boyler will bring 960 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 11: up a defensive flip and he'll place the laptop on 961 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 11: my chair before I get in there, and they'll talk 962 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 11: about it, and you know a lot of times it's 963 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 11: it's it'll it'll be a defensive coverage, you know, more 964 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 11: likely in recent you know games, it's a transition defense clip. 965 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 11: You know, transition defenses has really probably become the most 966 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 11: important coverage in the NBA now because teams are playing 967 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 11: so fast, and you know, it's not like the old 968 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 11: days where you run back and you get your man. 969 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 11: You know, now you've got to run back and get 970 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 11: a man. And so where it becomes challenging is a 971 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 11: lot of times with the centers because they've been taught 972 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 11: all their lives to run back and ProCheck the rim, 973 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 11: and you know. 974 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 8: Now now. 975 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 11: You've got to get a man, and you know a 976 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 11: lot of times the center is late getting down. Sometimes 977 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 11: the center now is the first guy down in the corner. 978 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 11: And you know, when your center is the defensive guy 979 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 11: and he's getting back and he's gravitating toward the rim, 980 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 11: and then there's a wide open guy playing a small 981 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 11: forward position on top of that he should be guarding. 982 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 11: You know, that's trouble. That's three points. And so communication 983 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 11: and all that kind of stuff is has become even 984 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 11: more important. 985 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 4: Rick Carlisle with the Sire Again Pacers Bulls tonight inside 986 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 4: a Gamebridge Field House. They'll have a couple of days 987 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 4: off and then it'll be Atlanta again as they play 988 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 4: a few home games here before trade deadline and All 989 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 4: Star Break coming up in February. I was listening yesterday 990 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 4: to Tyrese Haliburton on Lebron's podcast Coach, and you know, 991 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 4: I'm always blown away, frankly when Tyrese is talking about 992 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 4: the game of basketball, and we played the audio a 993 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,439 Speaker 4: little bit earlier. He brought up specifically trying to learn 994 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 4: a little bit, you know, from a guy like Peyton 995 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 4: Pritchard or going back to Austin Reeves when they were 996 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 4: together in the World Cup and wanting to get to 997 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 4: the foul line a little bit more, how to use 998 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 4: your body contact, you know, things like that as a driver. 999 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 4: Has that been a conversation you guys have had here 1000 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 4: as he obviously rehab is the first priority, but as 1001 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 4: he you know, gets back and playing coming up next season. 1002 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean. 1003 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 11: Going through an injury like this is a really difficult 1004 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 11: thing obviously, but for reents an amazing opportunity you know, 1005 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 11: to study, to look back at, you know, things that 1006 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 11: you've done well to establish yourself. In his case, I mean, 1007 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 11: one of the best fifteen best players in the world. 1008 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 11: That's you know, that's that's been stated, it's been voted on, 1009 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 11: and everything else. But the greatest players are the ones 1010 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 11: that keep studying how to get better and keep growing. 1011 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 11: And so yeah, I mean gaining the free throw line 1012 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 11: is is really important. 1013 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 8: You know. 1014 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 11: One of the reasons we're able to beat Oklahoma City 1015 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 11: last week was you know, they shot thirty free throws 1016 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 11: or whatever. But in the first game we played him, 1017 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 11: Gilds Alexander shot twenty six by himself, and so you know, 1018 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 11: we were able to keep his number of free throws, 1019 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 11: you know, far lower than it had been. So it's 1020 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 11: a it's such a potent weapon. 1021 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 8: And think about it. 1022 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 11: You know, your your scoring points while the clock is 1023 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 11: stopped and no one is guarding you. So yeah, he's 1024 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 11: he's uh, you know, he's he's thinking about the right 1025 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 11: things and he's been working very hard on everything. 1026 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 4: I don't know, I glad the exact title, right know, 1027 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 4: ty has talked about Jamie Rubin, who I think is 1028 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 4: like sports psychology for you guys, doing some team wellness stuff. 1029 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 4: And I'm curious, like going back to Friday in the 1030 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 4: Oklahoma City game, and you know Tye not coming to 1031 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 4: that game, was that like a big conversation that you 1032 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 4: had with them? Is that more of a Jamie Rubin conversation. 1033 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 4: I guess you know, how much do you dip your 1034 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 4: toes into that aspect of you know, him going through 1035 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 4: the mental aspect of this rehab. 1036 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 11: Well, we're appropriate and we're necessary, you know, I don't. 1037 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 11: I don't try to get everybody's business all the time, 1038 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 11: you know. In that case, Ty had asked to talk 1039 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 11: to me about a couple of things, and one of 1040 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 11: them was the Oklahoma City game, and he just he 1041 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 11: asked if he could miss that game. He just wasn't 1042 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 11: ready to go back to that venue for obvious reasons. 1043 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 11: And I said, of course, no problem. And then he 1044 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 11: was going to join us in Atlanta, and then all 1045 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 11: the weather stuff happened, and then of course, you know, look, 1046 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 11: the southern cities, you know, aren't very well equipped for 1047 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 11: storms and snow and stuff like that. And I mean 1048 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 11: you'll find this interesting, Like, you know, in whatever the 1049 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 11: day was, Sunday, we had a practice at eleven on Sunday, 1050 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 11: and then you know, the football games are on in 1051 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 11: the afternoon, So the Patriots, you know, games on first, 1052 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 11: and then the Seahawks game is on second. And so 1053 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 11: I'm I'm in the hotel room trying to find the 1054 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 11: Patriots game on the CBS channel, and all they have 1055 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 11: on the CBS channel is emergency weather stuff. The whole day, 1056 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 11: the game was never on, and so I had to 1057 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 11: watch the game on my laptop on YouTube TV on 1058 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 11: my laptop in the hotel room. And you know, I 1059 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 11: ironically it was cold in Atlanta, but it didn't There 1060 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 11: was a little bit of rain on Saturday night. On Sunday, 1061 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 11: it was cold. And then I get worried that, you know, 1062 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 11: the Hawks want to move the game up to like 1063 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 11: noon or something like that on Monday, and we couldn't 1064 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 11: do that because of our plane being ready to go 1065 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 11: after the game, and so we settled on one thirty 1066 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 11: to move the game up. 1067 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 8: So we get to Monday and it's it's sunny out. 1068 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 8: You know, it's like, no, there's not even any. 1069 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 11: Precipitation, and so, you know, we played the game early, 1070 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 11: which was a blessing certainly of sorts because we've been 1071 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 11: on a long trip and were able to get home 1072 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 11: to our houses at you know, eight thirty. 1073 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 8: Nine o'clock at night. 1074 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 11: But it was you know, a lot of it was 1075 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 11: much ado about, not very much with the weather. And 1076 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 11: then we played a very unusual game, you know, on 1077 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 11: a Monday afternoon in downtown Atlanta, and so there you go. 1078 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 5: It was funny. 1079 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 4: They were showing like shots outside of the arena, you know, 1080 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 4: it is coming back from breaks. And I was like, wait, 1081 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 4: this is why, you know, like this is what they're 1082 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 4: dealing with right now. Otherwise that is slightly different than 1083 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 4: probably Ogdensburg, New York. 1084 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 2: Growing up. 1085 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 11: I would say, well, back in Augensburg, we used to 1086 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 11: get tons of snow. We were on the Saint Lawrench 1087 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 11: River and I don't know if that produced lake effect 1088 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 11: or whatever, but we used to get feet of snow 1089 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 11: and we had a lot of snowfalls, like like they 1090 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 11: got here in India while we were gone, and I 1091 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 11: mean the snowbanks were piled up, you know, eight ten 1092 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 11: feet high, you know, and so that that was real snow. 1093 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 11: But you know, a lot of things have changed, and 1094 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 11: you know, as I as I got into aviation ten 1095 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 11: or twelve years ago, I started learned about the weather. 1096 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 11: I mean a lot of things have changed with weather patterns, 1097 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 11: and so you know, we're we're in a world that's 1098 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 11: that's constantly changing. But you know, you asked a question 1099 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 11: about Tyreese and Oklahoma City, and I you know, went 1100 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 11: all the way over to it trying to find a 1101 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 11: football game and weather reports and and you know, you know, sunny, 1102 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 11: sunny conditions in Atlanta. So fortunately for us, we were 1103 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,959 Speaker 11: able to get out of there in decent time after 1104 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 11: the game and get home and and man, oh man, 1105 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 11: it did snow here. 1106 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 4: That is an understatement to say the least there Next year, 1107 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 4: Should I pencil you in you and I making the 1108 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 4: trip up US thirty one Virginia notre name. 1109 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, I may let the urge pass on that. It's 1110 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 11: just it's a long it's a very long trip, and 1111 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 11: I don't know what our schedule is going to be. 1112 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 11: But I wouldn't say it's a definite no. But you know, 1113 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 11: I was the game was three hours long. I mean, 1114 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 11: and I'm I'm watching the game on my desktop computer 1115 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 11: and I'm sitting there with my laptop doing some prep 1116 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 11: work for for for Chicago, and there's just there was 1117 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 11: just one compelling thing after another, and I was a 1118 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 11: little surprised with every many people in the stands there, 1119 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 11: what's going on there? 1120 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 4: I know, It's yeah, it's always frustrated me. The lack 1121 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 4: of fandom, the lack of passion is really I mean, 1122 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 4: I get it south and Indiana and the weather isn't great, 1123 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 4: but still top twenty five UVA team. 1124 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 5: Yeah I was. I was frankly frustrated by. 1125 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 11: That seventeen right, Yeah, did you go to Notre Dame 1126 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 11: or what's your what's your fixation or fascination with it? 1127 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 6: I'm too dumb and too poor. 1128 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 4: My mom's uncle taught there, and the trickle down effects 1129 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 4: instilled the fandom into our family. So my brother's five 1130 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 4: and a half years older, and he said, we will 1131 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 4: be Notre Dame fans. So first day kindergarten, I rocked 1132 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 4: the lou Holt shirt and from then on I had 1133 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,439 Speaker 4: been growing up in the state. Honestly, I have more 1134 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 4: basketball fandom than I do football fandom, which sounds weird 1135 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 4: to say about Notre Dame. 1136 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 11: Well there's there's quarter basketball tradition too, to go back 1137 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 11: and all that. 1138 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 6: But yeah, Digger was in the building last night. 1139 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 8: Yeah wow. Interesting. Now gosh, he must be How old 1140 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 8: is he now? 1141 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 5: I think we looked it up. 1142 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 4: I want to say mid eighties, But he's right there 1143 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 4: on press row, like second row press row behind Notre 1144 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 4: Dames basket he's there pretty much every game. I see 1145 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 4: him on TV almost every game and was moving and 1146 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 4: you know, mingling with people and look to be doing great. 1147 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's awesome. 1148 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 6: All right, good luck to night, coach. 1149 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 4: Glad you guys got home safe and we'll chat next week. 1150 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 8: Okay, Thanks ticker. 1151 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 6: Rick Carlisle, Mark Dykedn. 1152 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 4: Wouldn't say it's a definite no. 1153 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 5: No. 1154 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 7: I think I think the door is open for next year. 1155 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 7: I think you get him a little heads up next year, 1156 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 7: maybe see what the Pacers schedule is and hopefully that 1157 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 7: falls into like a couple of days off or something 1158 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 7: like that. And you know, he seemed to leave the 1159 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 7: door open. He could have told you. 1160 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 11: You know, I can't say I appreciate the question, but 1161 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 11: I acknowledge the question. 1162 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 4: I would say, in the case at all, I've had 1163 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 4: co Ed's respond to texts from me back in the 1164 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,760 Speaker 4: day a little harsher than Rick Carlisle just answered that invite. 1165 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 7: He said, I wouldn't say it was a it's a no. 1166 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,479 Speaker 7: So I would say, dip your toe in the water 1167 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 7: next year once the schedule comes out, and yeah, see 1168 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 7: if he's interested.