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Speaker 1: yesterday perhaps some things that forecast a potential issue. Joining

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Speaker 1: he is with CBS four and WXA on Fox fifty nine,

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Speaker 1: Mike Chapel and chap Let's begin with that I don't

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Speaker 1: need to be pessimistic because it was a big win.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor was elite, as he has been all year.

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Speaker 1: But there were and you pointed it out, there were

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Speaker 1: a couple of areas that if it's not cleaned up

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Speaker 1: to use that term, it can be a bad forecast

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Speaker 1: for the Colts. And I'm talking about the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: You seem to have some concern over that.

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Speaker 2: Well, twelve sacks in two games, and yeah, if they

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Speaker 2: don't get it cleaned up. I mean Riley Lennard is

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Speaker 2: one play away and which one of these plays is

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Speaker 2: close enough to get to get Taniel Jones knocked? Out?

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Speaker 2: So and that's what's alarming is for the first eight

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden the last two games, teams have

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Speaker 2: the middle. But it's just hard. I was looking here

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Speaker 2: because I'm a stantner and I spend more time with Stack's.

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Speaker 2: This franchise is three and twenty four when it has

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Speaker 2: at least seven sacks, so it was two and twenty

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Speaker 2: four before yesterday. It's just too hard. These aren't a

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Speaker 2: minus two rush by Jonalvin Taylor. The minus six, minus

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Speaker 2: seven or strip sacks. What Jones has had is it

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Speaker 2: seven turnovers in the last two games. That's not sustainable.

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Speaker 2: And this is not this cannot be cured personnel wise.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to go mixing and mansion and bringing

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Speaker 2: up Jalen Travis to play. No, it's they've got to

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Speaker 2: figure something out. We talked to Tony Sperano Junior last week.

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Speaker 2: I was involved with Reggy Wayne, so I didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: I need to go back and listen to what position

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Speaker 2: coach had to say. But this, you can't keep doing this.

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Speaker 2: And again after the Pittsburgh game, somebody said, well, did

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Speaker 2: get a blueprint if he's got t J. Watt and

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Speaker 2: Alex Heismith. Well that wasn't the case yesterday. And they

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Speaker 2: still got after the quarterback and it's just too hard.

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Speaker 2: And we signed with the bloody lip, which is you

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Speaker 2: know players bleed, All players bleed every game, but when

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Speaker 2: your quarterback show this bloody mouth through a face mask,

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Speaker 2: that's not a good thing. The players have the week off,

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Speaker 2: so this will be on the coaching stet to figure

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Speaker 2: out what's wrong. That is something wrong, something's wrong. You

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Speaker 2: can't say, well, you know, nothing's wrong. So this will

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Speaker 2: be a scheme thing. Now. I don't know whether and

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Speaker 2: this is this is Rick Venturi could maybe address this,

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Speaker 2: but is this a case of Shainstike and getting in

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Speaker 2: that Bruce Arians mindset that we're going to say, and

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Speaker 2: Tom Moore, we're going to send that five guys and

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Speaker 2: you deal with that, and we'll deal with protecting with five.

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Speaker 2: And that's a result of the quarterback get getting beat

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Speaker 2: all that. I don't know. My mind's not that advanced,

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Speaker 2: but to say that nothing's wrong would be ridiculous and

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Speaker 2: say you know it's gonna be a tweak. Well, it's

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Speaker 2: not anyway tweak. You got your quarterback killed the last

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Speaker 2: I think they've got the week to kind of self evaluate,

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Speaker 2: as I say so, but they've got to get it

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Speaker 1: Do you think chap that teams started And by the way,

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Speaker 1: to Kansas City. But did Pittsburgh expose a little bit

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Speaker 1: simply the case chap where the line lost a little

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they exposed something. I would have thought

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Speaker 2: then it was I don't know if it was worse

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Speaker 2: all the turnovers, but something's up. They found something and again,

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's something schematically with the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe for a second that this offensive line

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Speaker 2: talent wise has lost much. I think Bernard Ryman's had

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Speaker 2: so I you know, they don't they don't sing five

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Speaker 2: say everybody doesn't have tg Watton Heismith. No, but they've

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Speaker 2: a team copycat league, absolutely, and if somebody finds a weakness,

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Speaker 2: isn't you know that was Pittsburgh. No, this is two

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Speaker 2: course they are. And if you don't find what's wrong

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Speaker 2: with all the fact that that they want to found

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Speaker 2: a way to win. Yesterday was on Jonathan Table's brilliance

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Speaker 2: without question. If he doesn't do that at that level,

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Speaker 2: at that level, they lose. And you can't expect a

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Speaker 2: And I saw another note here that he said a

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Speaker 2: So they've got to get the offensive line, they've got

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Speaker 2: So it's on them over these next five or six days.

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Speaker 2: Say yes, they get some time off to recoup, but

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Speaker 1: Mike Chapel is our guest. He's on the Java house peeling,

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Speaker 1: poor guest, line chap, How would you assess the performance

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Speaker 2: Pretty good considering practice what three times or whatever? Uh

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Speaker 2: he had? He had the obvious slip on the two

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Speaker 2: of stuff happens. I thought he played well almost he's

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Speaker 2: He jumped that route and those are plays that that

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Speaker 2: they didn't. He was like selective. But at the end

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Speaker 2: So here Franklin made two great plays, two great plays,

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Speaker 2: close it out. But they have two corners where you

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Speaker 2: tight end or whatever. That's really that that bodes well. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you. Losing to force Buckner it's huge, It's

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Speaker 2: absolutely huge. And there's no there's no guarantee he comes

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Speaker 2: back this season. There's not. With a neck injury. We've seen,

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Speaker 2: it's hard for me to say who's more important to

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Speaker 2: that's that's That's where I'm going. I just it's so

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Speaker 2: hard for them to play without him because the drop

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Speaker 2: not huge. It is but we've seen how they really

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Speaker 2: struggle to play defense without Buckner, and uh, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: be without him. And if I'm the Colts, I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, he won't be back and we got to

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Speaker 2: watch going forward because he's not going to be here

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Speaker 2: for the next three games.

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Speaker 1: Chap, do you think is lou Anarumo with Sauce Gardener?

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Speaker 1: And it's it's very early to know this, but from

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Speaker 1: of that game with no deforce Buckner there, But when

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Speaker 1: you have Sauce Gardener lined up, is that allowing them

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Speaker 2: I think it's allowing to press a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: It's probably allowing them to blitz a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: That they blitch Nick Cross some zire Franklin on some blitzing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, whenever, whenever you got better players, it gives

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Speaker 2: that's that they can get mooney Ward back. It just

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Speaker 2: gives him that much more. And all I can think it,

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Speaker 2: which is it's not about lou but it's like Gus

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Speaker 2: they're getting they're getting healthy except for Buck and I

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Speaker 2: say we. I think Mooney Ward was out there with

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Speaker 2: a good sign. And I you know, hopefully he's out

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Speaker 2: I just think it's it's a supreme confidence in himself

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Speaker 2: She certainly could have nixed this trade she's the owner

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Speaker 1: all right, Mike, Appreciate it as always, and look forward

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Speaker 1: to talking to you. Uh actually next week I'm off,

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Speaker 1: but you know, with the Colts on a buy, but

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Speaker 1: I know that obviously we'll be talking to you. But

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Speaker 1: certainly appreciate the time as always, all right, enjoying be well, guys,

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Speaker 1: all right, appreciate it. Mike Chapel joining us on the

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Speaker 1: Java House peeling poor guest line. He talked about the

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Speaker 1: I think right now, if you had to pick one

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Speaker 1: thing that you want to get and make sure in

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Speaker 1: the bye week is taken care of, it's the O

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Speaker 1: line for the Colts, the way they're playing. And I

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Speaker 1: reached out to somebody yesterday and said, look, you played

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Speaker 1: in it, You've played in the Super Bowl, you won

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, you played for the Colts, you were on

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Speaker 1: the line, and you break down film to this day.

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Speaker 1: Can you join me on the show. And Trey Haskik

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Speaker 1: said absolutely, so he'll do it next