WEBVTT - Train Dreams 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:10.440 The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to a new 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.520 episode of The Frames per Second Podcast. Kenn It be 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.799 in share along with Rob, Mike and Spike. Sounds like 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:24.920 you said, Rob, we're here to talk about trained dreams. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.240 So I guess we're going through. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:36.320 You are You are a fucking idiot, man, Jesus christ Man. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.760 Come on, you supposed to have been a totally different movie. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.640 I can't fucking stand. Look what you've done to him. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:49.680 Look what you've done to him? 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:59.760 God? Wow, ain't you? Oh my god? 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.920 Twenty twenty five American period drama film directed by Clinton 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:11.720 Bentley uh and apparently based off of a novella by 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:16.080 Dennis Johnson. So it has Joel Egerton in it, Felicity Jones. 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.360 Those are the two that I know. So and Will 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.080 Patton was doing the narration. Oh who will Patton? 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:25.600 Feel like? 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:25.760 We? 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.840 He was in Macy No, William Macy, the old dude, right, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:31.640 I don't know, I don't know. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.480 He was in Punisher. He was in he was in 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.920 the movie. Yeah he wasn't. I'm looking at his picture. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.959 Now, who who are now? The guy that narrated? He 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.199 was in the movie? Who was he? The old dude 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:44.280 that died there. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:50.840 That was Macy. I'm almost positive, Okay, he said somebody Patton. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:51.800 Yeah, Will Patton. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.320 But yeah, he did sing sing two years ago in 0:01:55.360 --> 0:02:00.840 twenty twenty three, and jockey and something called trans Speckles. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:02.840 So I don't know if y'all familiar with any of 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:07.360 those outside of sing sing. And I know who y'all know, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:08.040 Will Patton. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.959 Yeah, yeah, I know Will Patton. I can't who the 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:12.800 fuck was he? Let me see he was one of 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:13.399 the loggers. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:14.880 I thought he was like the second guy. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.320 Was he one of the loggers? I don't know, man, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.440 I think you're thinking about another the other guy the dynamite. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.359 Who's the one with the dynamite? That was when you 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:30.320 may Yeah he narrator. That's dude saying Will Will Patty. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.240 We haven't even got to god, you know what. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.400 He played another role in here, honestly now and I'm 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.960 looking at it. He just looked like one of thold 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.480 old wife man in there. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:44.320 Yeah, but. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.200 This might be a little bit of a different review, y'all. 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.200 And what you guys are normally used to for everybody 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:57.040 out there listening, what do uh well, you know, we've 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:03.919 been kind of going through these uh nominated films really 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.160 sort of in a discussion as shit, did they deserve that? 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:07.399 Shit? 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:14.680 You know, this one was definitely up for awards. So 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.200 I go through some of the awards. Twenty twenty six 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:24.480 nominated for Best Achievement and Cinematography. Yeah, Best Achievement and 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:28.720 Music Written for Motion Pictures, Music, Motion Picture of the Year, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.680 and Adapted Screenplay. So before I get into some of 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:40.000 these nominations, did anybody like this movie? 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:41.640 And the Science is Death? 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:41.960 Like? 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:47.120 I like, I like elements, but no as a whole, 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:51.800 I was bored out of my mind, but I like 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:56.640 elements of it, especially when it comes to the cinematography. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:57.720 I definitely give them that. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.600 Like the colorist did an amazing job on is I 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.200 don't even know how he pulled some of the colors 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.960 out of this, but a lot of salmon mhm, none, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.840 but nah, they did a really good job with that. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:16.120 I remember the music being good, so I can say, yeah, yeah, 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.400 I do remember that Best Motion Picture. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.760 Though I don't know why we'll get into that. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.600 No, no, damn, And part of the reason, like it's 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.839 a fine film standing alone, but if you're telling me 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.839 this motion picture of your nomination, like it's just this old, slow, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.000 boring formula that I feel like you got to a 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.720 bide by to be nominated, because even the other two 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.440 movies we looked at Last we felt the same way 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.080 as this. It's like there's this old slow thing that 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.520 it's got to be for the Oscar people to be like, oh, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.760 this could be Member the other year, Like then, shit 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:52.760 happened in this movie. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:54.479 A lot happened in the movie. 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:58.440 We followed eighty years old, We followed Robert Rainer's life 0:04:59.120 --> 0:04:59.920 living in the old. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.159 It's like if Forrest Gump wasn't interesting, this is exactly 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.719 what it's like. Forrest Gump played at Alabama, talked to 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.840 the president, he did all this interesting ship throughout this 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.880 storytell this is just a for Gump teale with nothing 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:13.640 interesting happens. 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.880 That one nigga did sound like Bubba Gump. He was 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.440 talking about, uh before he got shot. What he was 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.159 talking about. He was talking about all the different religious ship. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:24.400 He was just like, yeah, then I was. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.560 He just kept talking the black dude came and shot him. Yeah, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.240 before the black dude came and shot him. You don't 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.760 rembert religious, not like Bubba Gump. When he was talking 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.240 about shrimp he was talking about. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.080 He was talking about books of the Bible like this. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:37.920 Everywhere. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:39.440 Nobody really wanted to hear it. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.480 But they didn't want to listen to a lot of things. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.800 That but that one was very specific. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.160 And when you say Forrest Gump, they remind me of 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.400 Bubba Buffalo. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:52.720 Mike, what's that you, bro? 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:53.360 No? 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.680 No, I picture Mike was watching this. I was so 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.400 fucking annoyed, man. I mean, Joe Edgerton did a great, great. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.480 Job, but this is not a great movie. This is 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:07.640 absolutely not a great movie. I don't even want to 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.159 say nothing happen, but yeah, nothing really happened. It was 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:15.440 just this boring ass I'm going through life and I 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:20.600 lost my baby and my wife and now I'm sad. No, 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.560 this was this was boring, man, This was boring. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.479 It's a good, old, wholesome movie. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.280 I think in the aspects of like. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:37.080 What when you get to the end, and the aspects 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.360 of what I guess they were sinking out to accomplished 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:40.560 watching this guy. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:41.440 Go through this. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.039 First of all, I know I did not enjoy the movie, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.840 but I think in terms of like why it got 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.000 nominated and all the other stuff, I can absolutely see 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.040 them watching something like this with all those things that 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:55.440 it was nominated for, like. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.320 Good, this is so beautiful. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:03.440 Touch was so in terms of him suffering this loss, 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:08.880 trying to navigate through it, and eventually we were having 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.560 a conversation is the mice looan realizing that he was 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.880 in a completely different world that he was used to, 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.080 And that came with the second stint uh with with 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:17.800 the loggers. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:24.360 But outside of that, bro, I was I was folding 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.080 close watching this movie. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:30.560 Here you go again, but go ahead, keep going. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.720 I'm just saying I was. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.760 The getting me rid of everything. Every time. He still 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.600 doesn't every time somebody saut. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.160 Somebody said about the last review, you don't get credit 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.640 for that one because you ain't watch it, because you 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:43.000 said you. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.400 Tell him, because because I was. 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.440 I was definitely watching the movie, but it was it 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.240 was a great distraction from this mundane you need that 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.760 I did not want to do. And they you know, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.120 three baskets. I was like, all right, I'm gonna sit 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.320 here and watch this movie. And while I'm sitting here 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.680 folding and hanging up clothes, and it did not make 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:14.800 the task go by anything. Oh my god, this movie 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:15.680 was folding closed. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:16.400 That's what it is. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.560 It was like and I kept waiting, like, okay, you know, 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.920 here we are, we meet Robert Grainer and all this 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.560 other stuff. He's an orphan. He's going off, and I'm like, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.400 we get a chance to see what the world was 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.320 like back in the day. Spike, you know what does 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.520 a great job with that? Not laying man, but nineteen 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.840 twenty three or what all that old shit. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:36.840 Yeah, like this. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:43.400 Didn't really do it, Mike Ron and Spike. When threw 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.359 that motherfucker off the damn bridge. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.319 That was the only thing that was interesting in bro 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:47.640 I thought. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:48.920 I was like, oh, we got a movie. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:49.800 Now someone was here. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:51.599 Either he was from the stand up for him or 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.600 something was gonna happen other than say shit, it looks like. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.679 For a second minute he did. He At first he's like, wait, 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:58.840 what do you do? What do you do? 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.840 And then he went and started trying to help them 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.400 carry him over to kill him, and the dude kicked. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:05.199 Him in his fucking mouth. 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.199 Then he kept seeing him, yeah, because he felt guilty 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:10.760 because he took part in it. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.720 Right, he was, he was building the train. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.880 And then I guess this was the trained dreams from 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.160 here on out, because this happened while he was doing that, 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.640 and he just was haunted by for the rest because 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.400 they never really explained why they the movie never really 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.240 explained why they threw him over. They just threw him over. 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:29.120 They never gave him an explanation or the viewers an explanation. 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.400 It just kind of happened. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.679 But we know it was very they did that back then, 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.320 like yeah, yeah, that was part. That was what That 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.000 was their version of what's happening now with with brown people. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.320 That was how they The movie did say that. Actually 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:46.280 the movie said that they were deporting, Uh, Chinese Americans came. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.520 In in that specific situation, Like they didn't say why they 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.439 grabbed that dude was Chinese? 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.640 Yeah, yeah, have you have you Yeah it. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:10:00.520 Was Chinese guy there, right, Yeah, they did say Chinese racist. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:01.400 They definitely said. 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:02.440 He was Chinese. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.680 Yeah, there were unclear reasons. 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.320 We yeah, they weren't doing that, but they were uncleansed 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.920 unclear reasons why he was thrown over the bridge because 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.080 he was helping them work on it at that time 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.959 and maybe even later on. We already mentioned the guy 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.560 that walked up and shot the other guy. Yeah, you know, 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.360 it was just a lot of that blatant racism going out. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:23.040 Now. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.760 I don't know how you if you can get away 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.360 with that sort of justice, but I think out there 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.920 in the woods during that time, yeah, they just but yeah, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:31.320 I think. 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:31.880 That's the point though. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.680 I think the point, like the pull these people off 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.520 of their jobs or whatever. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:38.719 You could be like, yo, what did he do? 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.839 You know what I'm saying, like like and they never 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.560 gave you And I'll tell you what he did, like 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.520 he was, he was this in America is what he did. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.840 And that's all that matters were throwing his ass off 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:54.320 a bridge. Yeah, yeah, that was wild. Yeah, if you 0:10:54.760 --> 0:11:01.760 if you guys ever really solved not just the stories 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.560 of how they treated like yes, man, bro. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:10.559 It's yes, it's it's bad no Asians. Yeah, yeah, how 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.559 they treated Chinese people back in those days after the war, 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.559 World War I assumed it was one after. 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:20.920 This was going on during World War One. 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.480 Yes, yeah, you're looking at Japan. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.240 Work dried up after the war. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.800 And yeah, because in the movie they made it, you know, 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.600 it was like work dried up after the war. You know, 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.280 he was going on being a logger, he was going 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:33.199 away from his wife. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:34.200 He married this this. 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:40.679 Woman, uh moy River who came up to him the 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.280 other movie. Uh, and they had a daughter, Kate, and 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.200 so he was going back and forth. During the longest season, 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.240 we spent a lot of time with him there Armed Peoples. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.840 Did you guys find anything fascinating about Armed Peoples? The 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.680 old man that just kept talking explosing guy, okay, anything 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:56.439 about him. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.240 Because he ain't do any work right he was. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.360 He was just talking about the old days, how we 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:00.960 used to do it all. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:06.160 You know, he probably was like the fuck up man, Yeah, 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:07.719 because I feel like you always got some money like that. 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:08.319 On the job. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:16.800 That ain't done that damn work, God, damn. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.440 The thing I found important about him was this speech 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.240 about like kind of like the movie we just watched 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.880 Mother Nature, how you chopping down these redwood trees that's 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:31.520 been around for five hundred plus years, and you know 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.560 that's doing something to the soul, whether you know it 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:37.400 or not. So I did like that part. I did 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.840 like the element that he brought with that, like, yo, y'all, 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.680 y'all up here cutting down Mother Nature, cutting down these trees. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.160 And we just got finished talking about that because we 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.240 just revealed Mother So I thought that was interesting. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.199 You're right, that was the best line. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:52.680 I feel like a movie like you think all this 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.880 no come with a cost, And he mentioned that in 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:58.200 his narration of it. He was like, we single handley 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.640 like have defaced this part of like you can tell 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:05.240 the difference each time you go back. How so, yeah, 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.760 he did have a good speech. Chair William's basically gonna 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:08.839 do his thing every time. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:10.960 Yeah, I'm with you righter. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:15.120 I liked what he represented, you know, him being just 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.240 that goddess in around just talking him down to middle 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.839 aged people are younger about how things were done in 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.640 his day, you know. So I thought that that was interesting, 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.560 and they kind of you know, displayed him in a 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.000 very comedic light with him just sitting on the. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.000 Log and not doing shit. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.080 Did you guys feel like the sense of danger from 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.040 doing that sort of work when the tree fell down? 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.120 And oh yeah, took out those three people to two 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.200 people actually. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.200 For it to be a fairly boring movie. 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.079 They did a good job with that, Like they didn't 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.320 harp on it, but like out of nowhere, surprisingly boomed 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.839 a tree fall, somebody's dead, like shit, like it kind 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:51.880 of take you back watching it. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:56.240 So yeah, yeah, so yeah, I thought that was interesting 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.280 and of course that's how Armed Peoples died. He died 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.360 the same way, like a tree fell here him and 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:05.440 he just basically lost it, you know, his memory and 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:06.800 stuff like that, and then he was dead. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.000 The other aspect of this movie. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.880 Because they are really just key moments in it, which 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.520 was of course Armed People's dying, the danger of the trees, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:17.200 you know. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.440 Like, are you we got popped in side of here 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:25.080 with that damn tree. Now the tree fell on him. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:26.360 They showed the look up. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.920 Motherfucker you in the woods and they're fucking cutting you. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.440 What they said, look out. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.080 Well it's his fault. She shouldn't have been out there. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:34.960 He was like, oh, I'm all right, I'm right. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.040 So you didn't like the dialogue he brought about mother Nature, 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.920 and honestly it was so boring. I don't even remember 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.800 the dialogue. Yeah, it was very similar to to the 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.120 mother or whatever. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.120 How you're destroying the you're destroying the earth, like you're 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:47.960 destroying and that comes with a cost. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.040 Well, yeah he did. He came with a cost, all right. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.160 Could die what I what I thought was funny thover, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.040 I get to it later, not fuck it. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.120 When he got slapped in the face of that damn tree. 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.640 Oh yeah, later on said. 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:13.360 Look out, Oh I don't even help them up. 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.640 Right. Yeah, you would think after all this time, you 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:18.320 would know better. 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.560 You would love to have more content from frames per second. 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.160 Become a patron where you can contribute to what we 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.400 review and discuss. Our patreon gives the listeners the power 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.480 to nominate and vote a monthly discussion and film review, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.880 while also nominating and voting on weekly solo reviews from 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.840 each cast member. 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Wildfire still continue today at did y'all 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.440 really think did y'all think his family, his daughter and 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:21.800 wife was still hell. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.600 No, I did, of course course you. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:26.680 Did to had that hope. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:27.760 I did. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:33.440 This motherfucker's dead as hell. These motherfuckers dead as hell. 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:38.560 Brow though, what you mean, because you have to realize 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:44.080 that they were sleeping and forest fire spread quick quick 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:45.000 what nighttime? 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:49.280 We don't know. We weren't there. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.640 He came back and she was already in golf. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.800 But people were still just now running out though he 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:55.800 was running into people at the train station who was 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.800 running the other way like the fire hit Just. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.960 Yeah, you're thinking about present day. They didn't have ship 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:03.360 back then. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.600 Call nobody the news. I don't know how fire sneak 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.280 up on you broke It just happened last year. 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:11.479 What are you talking about? 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:16.879 It happened ye and motherfuckers. Still, what are you talking about? 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.359 It's a day's time. It's a day time. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.800 Why didn't get you don't smell smooth smell smoke that 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:27.399 triggering you to get out of that cabin. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.919 I guess the only thing I was getting, Spike is 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.000 when the whole thing burned down, they didn't see anybodies. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.960 So that's the only thing I can give Spike, I'm. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.320 With you, which is a rod that I thought that 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.480 they were going to come back. I was thinking, like, Okay, 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.280 if it burns really really hot, will it will the 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:46.880 bones turned the ash. 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.360 As well, like it's like when they you know, I. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.040 Think it takes a lot to happen. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.520 That's what I was wondering too. So they ain't find ship. 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.520 But again, this was back in the day, so we 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.000 don't know what they had because they mentioned somebody like 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.320 if he was born to generate later somebody would. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.880 Have lived because of medical advancements. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.199 But he built the house on the foundation of the 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.399 old house, So I'm right he built the new the 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:10.600 new place. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.159 Yes he did. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.359 He did, but they did specifically say he never rebuilt 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:16.320 the bedroom. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:16.879 M hm. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.280 So it could be that's where the bodies were. I 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.119 don't know, because maybe he just didn't even want to 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:27.800 actually face the fact that that's what happened. He wanted 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.080 that hope of well, someday they're gonna come because he 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.760 lived to be a why didn't they come back? The 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:37.280 motherfucker's dead. Bro, That wasn't his damn daughter. I don't 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:38.520 know who the fuck that was. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:39.160 I was. 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.440 That didn't happen? You think that wasn't real? 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:46.840 I didn't I didn't think that when he woke up. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.480 I thought the window, Ye window was broke. How done 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.040 that he put a splinter on it? He put it 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:53.679 back in spot. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.040 I think he somehow opened the window. I think all 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:57.920 of that was just. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:00.440 Your job. 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:01.600 Because I was so confused. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.720 I was like, what, well they you know, they didn't 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.879 see you didn't see him the next day, and. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.919 They have been kind of teasing like he's been hearing 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.080 voices and stuff like that, he's getting older, so they still. 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.520 That wasn't real. It was just in this mind playing 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:15.840 tricks on. 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:17.880 So you thought they were coming back, right I did. 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.800 I did have hope that they were going to come back, because, 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.840 like I said, we never saw any signs of life 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:29.560 like on that on that surface. So I was just like, 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:31.879 you just feel like they were just saw something, some 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.600 bones or some type of something, but you never saw it. 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.280 So I was like, maybe I might come back. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.879 I'm with you. It's I think it's typical movie writing. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.840 I was like, oh, yeah, they they're gonna come back. 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.600 But that would have been was to think about it 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.040 like this would have been sadisfun. 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:47.439 Yeah. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.280