1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: This is track Side with Kirk Cavin and Kevin Lee 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: on ninety three to five and one oh seven five 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: the band. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: I'm very excited to start the season, to see what 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: we have in Cbring, then Phoenix and then Sampete. Just 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: feels like we have a very long off season and 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: then suddenly once we start, we never stop. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: So I'm excited for that. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm excited to get back on track. I think I've 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: been lucky to go to Daytona and kind of get 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: a rhythm, a small rhythm, and be at the track 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: and driving a little bit. But I'm excited to get 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: back to my back. 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 4: To me, we're in a very good position and it's 15 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 4: definitely going to. 16 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: Be improved upon from last year. Like you already a 17 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: good team. 18 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 4: Everything they're doing and have done, to me, that will 19 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 4: just be better and it will just continually get better. 20 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: You know. 21 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 4: I believe the team will be the best team in 22 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: the next three years. He's just got to keep on 23 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 4: building to what we've been able to accomplish, you know, 24 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 4: Like we don't want to stay static. We always want 25 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: to move forward, even if it's a small step, Like 26 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: we want to make sure we don't stay where we're at, 27 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: we always want to go better, so that's what we tend. 28 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: To do every single year. 29 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: I believe that we've come to a point where with 30 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: that big step to getting that five hundred, to getting 31 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: that championship. 32 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: We're right there. And that little extra step, I. 33 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: Believe is in doing so it's not actually doing something 34 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 4: else to actually be able. 35 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: To get that. 36 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: I think we're already there. 37 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: We just have to get it done. So that's what 38 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: we're going to be looking forward to doing and doing 39 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: a lot of data work and also just with the 40 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 3: crew guys, just working with them every single day on 41 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: all sorts of the cars. So it feels really good. 42 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: Like I said, this is the most prepped and most 43 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: ready I've ever felt going into a season. Comments from 44 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: Alex Pullo, will Power Pot of Award David Malucas. We 45 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: are today three weeks away from essentially the start of 46 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: the IndyCar season. That is set up day load in 47 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: day track walk festivities for the Firestone Grand Prix of 48 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: Saint Pete and Dario Frankety, the four time champ, three 49 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: time Indy five hundred winner. We'll also be racing that 50 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: weekend at Saint Pete in a NASCAR, and we'll share 51 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: news of another driver you may know making a NASCAR appearance. 52 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: Tim Sindrick is back with Team Penske Tba is still 53 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: listed as dale Coin's second driver. We have no idea 54 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: what premise plans are, and a month before the season begins, 55 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: we have an Indy Car schedule change. On the positive side, 56 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: an eighteenth race that should present one of the best 57 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: opportunities for visibility the sport has ever seen. Hello, and 58 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: we welcome thanks for joining us. Trackside ninety three to 59 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: five one oh seven five the fan in Indianapolis. That's 60 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: where Landon Coons is there. My name is Kevin Lee. 61 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: Kurt Cavin is with us as well. We're going to 62 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: call this high heat, Kurt, because there is a lot 63 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: to cover, so let's jump into it. We'll try to 64 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: get to some Twitter comments a little later on at 65 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: Kevin Lee twenty three. All Right, Washington, DC was announced 66 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: by the President of the United States last week with 67 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: an executive order. My understanding is that is is what 68 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: allows them to not need congressional approval, and it just 69 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: is there maybe could be still some obstacles. All of 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 3: that said, I've gone ahead and put this down and 71 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: pen in my calendar. What else, as you know, it 72 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: needs to happen for this race to be one hundred 73 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: percent confirmed if it's not already, well, I think it 74 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: is one confirmed. I don't I don't have any reason 75 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: to to find one of those erasers that erases inc 76 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: you know, a pen, A pen works in this case, 77 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: So I think it's good to go. Obviously, there's still 78 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: many many details that we don't know, but this has 79 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: been in the works for some time. I mean, we 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: know that the groundwork had been laid, you know, we're 81 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: hearing you know, as much as six months of effort 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: had gone into this in terms of planning and and 83 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: uh you know, track layout and so forth. We just 84 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: haven't seen it. So still a lot of details still 85 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: to come. But I think, you know, I'm eager. I 86 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: mentioned in the office this might be one that I 87 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: definitely went on the calendar. I'd like to see how 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: this comes together, so I may be this may be 89 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: one for my attendance as well. It's a massive opportunity. 90 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: Fox is obviously all in on this. I've seen some 91 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: comments that, oh, Fox is going to have to scramble 92 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 3: to create the space. No, this wasn't ever happening without 93 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: Fox being fully behind it, and I think that's essentially 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: where it started. That's where I first heard about it 95 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: last summer. So you're right. This has been in the works. 96 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: What I was told a last late August early September. 97 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: We just didn't quite get there. But we're working on 98 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: it for a different year. But the America two fifty 99 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: celebration presented an extra opportunity. Now, when this was discussed, 100 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: I don't know that I ever heard or asked where 101 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: is the route? You know, my assumption was it was 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: going to be in Washington, d C. But not necessarily 103 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: running around all the monuments, which is where it's going 104 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: to be. That's just a massive obstacle that I assumed 105 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: could not happen. But the America two fifty celebration makes 106 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: that more of a possibility. In the executive order and 107 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: everything that comes through and comes with that, that will 108 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: present the sport a chance to get in front of 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: people that otherwise would not be aware and make it 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: more mainstream. I have no idea how you put all 111 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: this together, even in six months, even you know, starting 112 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: on it last June or whenever it was, Because if 113 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: I heard about it in August. It had probably hit 114 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: in the works for several months before that. But we 115 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: always hear how hard street races are. But you got 116 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: a lot of people that know how to do things 117 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: working on this. So yeah, I'm like you, this is happening, 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: and it is a massive opportunity. It is free to 119 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: the public. As I understand, I would assume there's going 120 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: to be some high level hospitality that can be purchased 121 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. But you know, that's 122 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: one way that becomes more available and to get through 123 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: some of the red tape, is that this just becomes 124 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: another celebration. It's expensive to do a fireworks program. It's 125 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: expensive to do anything that the government does, very expensive. 126 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: Probably a lot less expensive than a street race, you know, 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: and some of the things that we see happening that 128 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: the government expenses. I've been asked how it's being paid for. 129 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 3: Don't know. It could be Fox could be in d car, 130 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: This may simply be an investment, could be shared. They 131 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: do have a local promoter now, which I was excited 132 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: to hear. Monumental Sports. They own it's tet Leons's company. 133 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: They own the Capitals, the Wizards, a TV network and 134 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: a lot of things, Kurt. They won't be tasked with 135 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: setting up the race course or anything like that, but 136 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: they can sell sponsorships and work for local promotion and 137 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: all the things that need to happen on the inside. 138 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: And IndyCar will be heavily involved. I mean, there's just 139 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, no one knows the sport better than IndyCar itself, 140 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: so you know that will be a tandem effort. It's 141 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: just it's pretty mind boggling to think how this could 142 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: come together, how it has come together. The only thing 143 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: I wondered about when I first started hearing about it. 144 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it was, you know, August September, maybe it was 145 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: a little bit after that. I can't remember for certain, 146 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: but I thought it might be a little closer to 147 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: the July fourth weekend. This is a full what six 148 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: seven weeks The date is August twenty one through twenty three, 149 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: so a little past the you know, fourth of July weekend. 150 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: It would be fantastic if it was maybe the week 151 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: before the fourth of July. I mean, it seems it 152 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: seems impossible to think that you would do it on 153 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: the fourth of July weekend with all the other festivities. 154 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, Nonetheless, it still will receive its patriotic due 155 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: and all the teams are just saying I've talked a 156 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: little bit with with a couple of them already, and 157 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, the interest from potential sponsors and current sponsors 158 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: is really much more than anyone could have anticipated. You know, 159 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: if you're a J. Foyt's team, they've been one that 160 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: you know they're going to run that Livery all year, 161 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: homes for our troops. I would think that that has 162 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: an opportunity to be just really spectacular for that that organization, 163 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: and I don't mean just the race team, but homes 164 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: for our troops. You know it's going to be the 165 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: Livery all year, So that's that's significant, and I think 166 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: you'll see a lot of liveries like that. I think 167 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: ray Hall let them and Lanigan Jay Frye has always 168 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: had a great connection going back to his NASCAR days 169 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: and beyond really with the military, and certainly Graham. Ray 170 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: Hall has been as patriotic as anybody in the paddock 171 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: and his family. So I think I think you're going 172 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: to see a lot of teams come out on the 173 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: real positive side from a financial standpoint, and because we 174 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: talk about who's paying for these things? Who's paying for 175 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: the extra race? For the teams? I think the teams 176 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: probably will do okay. 177 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, the teams hopefully can be able to make this back. 178 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: It's you know, I think it's probably a quarter of 179 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 3: a million, somewhere in that range. I've heard those numbers, 180 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: and depends on the team sometimes if you're a driver 181 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: that's trying to do an extra race. Back in the 182 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: day when we would see that that, you know, the 183 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: starting price is somewhere At that time it was more 184 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: like one hundred and fifty or two hundred thousand, but 185 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: the costs have gone up at this point and it's 186 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: to the day. I wonder if that was the initial 187 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: target and why the feeling was it's not going to happen, 188 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: because the effort was to put it around the fourth 189 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: of July weekend and they decided that can happen. You know. One, 190 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a lot of competition. Washington, DC probably 191 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: has a lot of plans already for that particular weekend, 192 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: and it may have decided, yeah, we can't shut down 193 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: all the streets around there. We're going to do you 194 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: a solid and we're gonna let you play in our backyard, 195 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: but you can't have that weekend, and then an opportunity 196 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: came around because they want to do this is more 197 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: than just a one weekend celebration. That's the goal. It's 198 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: America two fifty, it's the entire year is part of this. 199 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: So then something else becomes available and that's where you 200 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 3: get the late August weekend. I do not know what 201 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: Fox plans to have in front of that, but I 202 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: would expect they will try to have a good lead 203 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: in don't know if that's possible or not. If it's 204 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 3: at one pm, then there's not a lot you can do. 205 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: There's not much you can put on in front of that. 206 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: The World Cup is already over by that point. That 207 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: wraps up around July nineteenth with the Nashville Race. But 208 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: Fox will do everything they can along with promotion. You know, 209 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: by that time of the year, you're already into NFL 210 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: preseason games and NFL preseason games. The few that they 211 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: air on the networks still draw between five and eight 212 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 3: million people, and I think IndyCar has the chance so 213 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: that last year's Indy five hundred with the heavy Fox 214 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: promotion and some different things like re airing in some 215 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: key markets in the Midwest, you know, help produce seven 216 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: million audience this year. You know, the hope is that 217 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: you can meet that again, maybe even grow it. There's 218 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: certainly a fantastic opportunity for Nashville after the finals of 219 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: the World Cup. IndyCar is going to run after some 220 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: other preliminary World Cup matches that might have a five 221 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: to eight million something like that lead in there after 222 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: a Cup race one weekend. And I think this one 223 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: as well. I think you have a chance to have 224 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: three or four or five events that see numbers. So 225 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: maybe put it more like we have a chance to 226 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: see two or three or four events, not including the 227 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: Indy five hundred to ce numbers that we've never seen before. 228 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: I think you're right. And the other thing that is 229 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. You know, we're making a lot of 230 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: now the front half of this IndyCar season, with four 231 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: races in the month of March, you have you have 232 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: a stretch here at four races and five weekends, you know, 233 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: three in a row to start the season. And then 234 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, people talk about the back half of the season. 235 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: You realize now the back half of the season ends 236 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: with five consecutive race weekends, goes from Portland to Toronto 237 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: or Markham, Washington, d C, a double header at Milwaukee, 238 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: and a trip to Laguna Seca to end the season. 239 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: Five straight weekends. It's going to be a sprint like 240 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: nobody's business. 241 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: And that's six races, by the way, Yes, six races 242 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: in five weekends, and you're going to the West Coast twice. 243 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: You're going to Portland, then you're going Toronto, You're going 244 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: to DC, you're going to Milwaukee, and you're going to 245 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: Laguna Sega. So while a lot of us are excited 246 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: about this opportunity, I understand if you work on race cars, 247 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: you're not super excited or you drive the truck at 248 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: this point. But I think everybody is still excited about. Yeah, 249 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: it's good business for the sport, but unfortunately some are 250 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: going to have to work harder than others in that circumstance. 251 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: So I think this is I don't know that it 252 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: was in the release, and you can maybe correct me, 253 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: but I think this is being approached as a one 254 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: time things. Yeah, so I and by the way, I 255 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: think that's the right approach, and that's probably the likely 256 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: scenario because here's what you don't want to have happen 257 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: is have this great opportunity, which even if it does 258 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: get a rating of five million people and there are 259 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: a lot of fans there, we nose tree races are 260 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: tough to do. We've seen some before that look pretty 261 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: successful and you just couldn't make the dollars and cents 262 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: work after that, So that would be disappointing if you announce, 263 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: like most races are announced, this is a part of 264 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: a long term plan and we hope to be in 265 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: this market for many, many years and oh sorry, it's 266 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: one and done. So this way you potentially can underpromise 267 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: and over deliver. And so that's the thought that I 268 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: had originally, And then I saw Zach Brown mentioned the 269 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: same thing. And we'll get to what a cool thing 270 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: McLaren did last night. But I think a lot of 271 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: us are already thinking along those lines. I have no 272 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: idea if it's being discussed. Sleeve asked no one from 273 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: IndyCar or no one from Fox about that. But logic 274 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: would say, if this is a massive success, they're going 275 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: to look at ways to run it back. Maybe it 276 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: has to be tweaked. You may not be running around 277 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: the monument min it's but maybe you can find another 278 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: location that is a little more palatable, and maybe Washington, 279 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: d C. Is used to traffic disruption so much that 280 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: it won't have the impact that street races have on 281 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: other cities. But it has to be a huge undertaking. 282 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: So it's a one year thing, but let's see, and 283 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: then they could potentially start something again if everything goes awesomely. 284 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think it's it stands to reason that 285 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: it's going to happen in this location or it's not 286 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: going to happen at all. That would be my suspicion, 287 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: because that's the reason you go to DC. I mean, 288 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: but I have no basis for that. It just seems 289 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,119 Speaker 1: logical that you'd want to do it there and if 290 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: it can, if it can work. You talk about where 291 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: traffic is palatable, Traffic is the same pretty much all 292 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: over that city. It's small, it's compact, and there's traffic. 293 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: Trying to watch. Yeah, try to walk, Yeah, you try 294 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: to whatever. I'm there, I try to walk. So I'm excited. 295 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: I'm excited about the opportunities that this will present. There 296 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: were some rumblings that the Milwaukee doubleheader would go away. Well, 297 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: I'm not a huge fan of doubleheaders. I do like 298 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: the fact that you have six soulvals on the calendar 299 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: and I wouldn't want to see that drop to five. 300 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: And I know one it's a good race, and I 301 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: think it helps that events. And that's what we've seen 302 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: to have doubleheader weekends. You're only going to get so 303 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: many people. Although Milwaukee did have a good crowd for 304 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: practice last year, but you're only getting so many on 305 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: a practice day. So let's see what two races look like, 306 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: and you get an additional race, and that expense by 307 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: the way of an extra weekend. I don't know that 308 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: you're dividing by eighteen for the expense. Now, there's wear 309 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 3: and tear in the cars and parts and things, but 310 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: a doubleheader at Milwaukee is not two times the expense 311 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: as a race at Gateway, right, Because hotels and travel, 312 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 3: you're at least saving on that, and that's become a 313 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: massive part of budgets at this point because hotel prices 314 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: have really gone up in the last few years. So 315 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 3: speaking to the schedule, Zach Brown mentioned something last night 316 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: when he chatted with the media in Indianapolis that we've 317 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: mentioned here before as well, that this is really compact 318 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: beginning and so forth. The schedule probably needs to be expanded. 319 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: It'd be nice if it could. Zach Brown agrees with 320 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: a lot of us that you do not want to 321 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: go head to head with the NFL. So it's the 322 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: same thing we've always said, How can we start to 323 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: season a little bit earlier. How can we still run 324 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: seventeen or eighteen races but give us an extra three 325 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: weeks in the calendar. So that's something you're still looking at. 326 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: And there are very limited markets that you can go to. 327 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: So I just wanted to share that centem and maybe 328 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 3: we'll go ahead jump into that too. And it's something 329 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 3: that McLaren is always really good at, is promoting themselves, 330 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: which helps promote the sport as well. And even though 331 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: they unveiled the cars and just at first glance, I 332 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 3: didn't notice anything different in them. I'm sure there is, 333 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: and there are always new partners involved, but one we 334 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 3: just like to see what the schemes are going to 335 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: be their primary schemes for their three cars, and let's 336 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: just make a big to do about it. We haven't 337 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: seen race cars for a little while, so let's officially 338 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: see what you're doing and there's going to become a 339 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: point some year where delivery looks fully different, and if 340 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: every team did something like this, they'd be unveiling things 341 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 3: we haven't seen before. Plus they have the perfect backdrop 342 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: they wanted to show off their new what is it 343 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: called the McLaren Racing Center, which is the former Andretti shop. 344 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: Who did I ask this? I asked Poto Award, who 345 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: had been in the Andretti shop when he was an 346 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 3: Andretti indie lights driver, and he said, you would not 347 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: recognize it. So I'm out of town. I didn't have 348 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: a chance to go, but I'm going to try to 349 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: arrange a visit in the next week or two to 350 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: see what this looks like. 351 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Agreed, I didn't. I didn't make it either, And if 352 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: you line up a time, let me know I'll join 353 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: you because it looks it looks spectacular. I've been in 354 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: the Andretti facility many, many, many times, two three dozen 355 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: at least, and I feel like I could walk blindfolded 356 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: through the facility and know where the various offices and 357 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: parts department and those kind of things, truck bays, all 358 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: those kind of things, and I look through all the 359 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: photos I couldn't. I couldn't get any sense of where 360 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: I was looking at those. Even the xterior of the 361 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: building looks looks different. 362 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: So I know not every team can pull this off 363 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: because there's still expense to that. You know, what they 364 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 3: did last night. I'm sure there is a big check 365 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: that was written in the name of you know, this 366 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: is promotion. This is something we're going to invest in 367 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: ourselves and it gets more impressions for all of our partners, 368 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 3: and it's good for Indy Car as well. But I'm 369 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: hoping as many teams as possible can start doing things 370 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: like this in the future, show off their shops. A 371 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 3: lot of the teams have really nice facilities, Andretti is 372 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: redoing theirs. Ray All Letterman has a beautiful facility. I've 373 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: not been to where ed Carpenters at now, and I 374 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: think I think they're working on They're planning on building 375 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: a new one at some point, but even the one 376 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: they're in now that looks pretty sharp. All of them 377 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: have really nice facilities and things like that. Even if 378 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: it's more low key, nobody can quite go out the 379 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: way you know, a Formula One team can do it, 380 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: but it's a great idea and the gift that always 381 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: gives Zach Brown when he talks to the media started 382 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 3: up for us again. If you need a topic, you 383 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: go to Zach. He threw out Fernando Alonso's name again 384 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: last night. 385 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, good old Zach. Yeah. By the way, the ECR 386 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: boys and gals are headed up to Grand Park in Westfield, 387 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: so that facility I would expect to be spectacular as well. 388 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: Yep, so the story was. And you know, if I'm 389 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: Ryan Hunter Ray, I don't know how excited I am 390 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: about that, because if I'm Ryan, one of the things 391 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about is, you know, I could maybe do 392 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: this one off for the next several years. But basically, 393 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: Zach said, now he did say really nice things about Ryan, 394 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 3: as he should, because this gives them by far the 395 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: best shot in the extra car to win the race 396 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: that they've had, and he will be additive and help everyone. 397 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: Alonso would help, but not to the extent of Hunter Ray. 398 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: But basically, he said, when you know, every time I 399 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: see Fernando, I tell him that you have your oportunity 400 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: when you're done, when you want to run again, let's talk. 401 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: And he is in the last year of his contract 402 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: and at forty four forty five, he has to be 403 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: year to year. It is plausible that this is the 404 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: last year. It's also very plausible that it's not for 405 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: Fernando Alonso with new regulations. If he's competitive, I don't 406 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 3: expect him to stop. But if he does at this 407 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: point and his only forty five next year, I would 408 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 3: not put it past I think it would be more 409 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: likely than nots If Alonzo stops in Formula One as 410 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: soon as at the end of this year, I think 411 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: he'd want to do the indy five hundred again. 412 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think he'd want to do it. 413 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that it It would be quite the 414 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: quite the to do list that it was even the 415 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: second time. 416 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 3: It would not. It would be about him coming and 417 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: trying to win the race. 418 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 419 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, there'd still be a lot of hype, not as 420 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 3: much as there was certainly the first time, but really 421 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: only the first year was the only one that was 422 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: super successful. Didn't make it, the second time didn't make it, 423 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: The third time was not a factor at all. But 424 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: now ERL McLaren has it figured out. If I'm Fernando Alonso, 425 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: this would be like that first year when Andretti had 426 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: it fully figured out, and as a newbie he was 427 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: able to lead laps and have a legitimate chance of 428 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: winning that race. So it just kind of something to 429 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 3: keep on the radar moving forward. And by the way, 430 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: if it goes great with Ryan on Aray eron McLaren 431 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: could run five cars. I was going to say to 432 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: say this had this does not have to be at 433 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 3: the detriment of Ryan Hunter Ray. If it goes well, 434 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 3: I got to think they're going to invite him back 435 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: to keep going in twenty twenty seven, and it is. 436 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: It is going to go well with Ryan Hunter Ray, 437 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: regardless of how he finishes. He would be if you 438 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: were going to go start an Indy five hundred program, 439 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: we've never really had this kind of maybe we have. 440 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: If you were going to start an any five hundred 441 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: team and it was going to be like drying Ryan Bold, 442 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to come up with three people 443 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: that would be more impressive and important to the program 444 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: that Ryan had to Ray on your program. He just 445 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: he's a team player, he's a smart guy. He's very talented. 446 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: He probably should have won in twenty thirteen as well. 447 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: He won in fourteen. He probably should have won in 448 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: thirteen had the late restart Canan gets him. You know, 449 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: if Dario doesn't crash how to, Ray is going to 450 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: have a run on him to get back to the lead. 451 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: So and the way they drafted that year, I mean 452 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: it's very likely he could have been a back to 453 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: back winner, and he's had other good runs as well. 454 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: I'll be interested. So Ryan is not doing this to 455 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: be coach. He's there to drive the race car and 456 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: he will be available and answer questions when asked. But 457 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: I'll be interested to hear from someone who is honest, 458 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: like Poto at the end of this who's already great 459 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: at the end five hundred. I'm going to guess there 460 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: some things at the end of this month that very 461 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: subtle things that Poto has learned, And what might he 462 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 3: do for a Nolan Siegel and a Christian Louinguard long 463 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: Guard's close. Nolan Siegel is twenty twenty one years old, 464 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 3: has a lot to learn and can learn it from 465 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: a Tony Kanan, but Tony's got a lot of things 466 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 3: to do as well. But being able to talk to 467 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: another savvy veteran who is in the seat for that month, 468 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: I think will pay big dividences. All you mentioned Dario Frankaty. 469 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: He's back. He finished business in NASCAR. I always said 470 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: this was when I see and read that Dario failed 471 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: at NASCAR, I think that's unfair. I think he had 472 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: an incomplete He broke his ankle and just said, this 473 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: isn't any fun. It's not going great. And I'm not 474 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: going to say it was going awesome. But I still 475 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: think if he would have wanted to stick it out, 476 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 3: he would have figured that out. And he may not 477 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: have been a champion, but he would have been solid. 478 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 3: Oh and he's not restarting a career. He's just doing 479 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: something fun. Wants to do some fun things with Jimmy Johnson. 480 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 3: So I think he's basically driving the same truck that 481 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: Jimmy is driving in the special event at San Diego. 482 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: I think it'll be an interesting watch. I'm surprised. I'm 483 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: surprised that he wants to do it. Honestly, I mean, 484 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: you know, well, I'm surprised that he's going to do it, 485 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: not that he wanted to do it, that he is 486 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: doing it. I don't know. 487 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: St people the surprise would be because he retired because 488 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: of too many concussions and fear of injury. So I 489 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: trust Dario is a smart guy. I trust that he 490 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 3: has been given some assurances that there are some certain 491 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: things that he can do. He's been driving historic cars 492 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: at a pretty fast paced Now, maybe maybe he's just 493 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 3: been ignoring the doctor's advice, but I doubt that. But 494 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 3: he's been driving fast cars for a while and he 495 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: just raced a GT three, an endurance race, and when 496 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: you talk about risk factor, I would rate those historic 497 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: cars at a higher rate of speed and a higher risk. 498 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: Let's face it, at Saint Pete, he's going to be 499 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: driving behind the pace car most of the race because 500 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: it's going to be a crash fest with concrete walls 501 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: and twenty five of the drivers that have never done 502 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: a street race before. I think Dario will be upfront 503 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: because he's in a really good piece of equipment. He's 504 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: in the championship team from last year. He can win 505 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 3: this race along with I am aware. I think there 506 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 3: are a couple of other people that I know that 507 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: are going to be added to this race in the 508 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 3: future that I also think will have a chance to 509 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: win that are not NASCAR regulars. And there may be 510 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: people that I don't even know about, but I don't 511 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: think he's going to be going that fast. Yes, you 512 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: can get hurt in anything, so I'm going to trust 513 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: that he's been giving the assurances that in a stock 514 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: car on a street race, you are as safe as 515 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: you were in twenty twelve driving the thing. So he's 516 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: an adult. He's made the decision and it's going to 517 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: be cool. Because we didn't get to say goodbye to Dario. 518 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: We all thought he was going to drive sports cars 519 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: whenever he finished IndyCar racing for several more years. He 520 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: loves the sports that's why he's still around it. He 521 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: loves everything about it. So here's part two. I don't 522 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: know if this has been officially as we chat late afternoon, 523 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: I've not seen this come across my Twitter, but I 524 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: was told he was going to be announced today, and yeah, 525 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 3: we're just going to go ahead and share it and 526 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: we'll deal with it if something happened. Because so if 527 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: you don't see this on Twitter, don't tweet about it. 528 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: This will just be something amongst ourselves and we will 529 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: break news on our own program. Jackson Lee will also 530 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: be driving in the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series. At Saint 531 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: Petersburg in the number twenty two Browning chapman Ford with 532 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: Team ray Onme. So this is it's been called Rayon 533 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: Brothers Racing. Josh Rayom is one of the owners and 534 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: he drives much of the time, and I think he's 535 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: going to drive the Saint Pete Weekend as well. California 536 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: Closets is also a big partner in this, and we 537 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: have worked with the Tampa office and they really wanted 538 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: to have Jackson drive in something at this event. And 539 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: two years ago they were running GT fours when he 540 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: was running a GT four. So we got him in 541 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: the VP Challenge race in and asked in Martin that 542 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: he had never driven before that weekend started, and he 543 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: had the fastest lap of the weekend and led a 544 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: bunch of laps, finished second in both races. Could have 545 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: should have won the second race, but a more experienced 546 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: pro driver just shoved him out of the way at 547 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: the end. All fair, but just his lack of experience, 548 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: he's kind of caught him off guard in the last restart. 549 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: So while he is, as they like to say, going 550 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: to be drinking from the fire hose, essentially he's doing 551 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: his test with concrete walls on national television. We tried 552 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: to work out a way to get a test, but 553 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: it got snowed out. He has been in Charlotte the 554 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: last two days to do pitstock practice at least to 555 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: get it in first gear and launch. Well, the snow 556 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: started melting in the parking lot. He was do what 557 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: They couldn't do that either, So the first time he 558 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: moves in the car, he has sat in the car. 559 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: The first time he moves in the car will be 560 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: that practice one in three weeks, and he at least 561 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: knows the track, but does not know the car and 562 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: does He's been warned that they don't break in the 563 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: truck series in NASCAR, they use the car in front 564 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: of them or the truck in front of them to break. 565 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: So we'll see how it goes. He may have to 566 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: qualify if they have more than thirty six, he may 567 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: have to qualify because the team is they been at 568 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: the back of the points. So when it comes down 569 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: to that, I think they were like full time entries, 570 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: last next to last and twenty ninth or something like that. 571 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: But I love what they had to say. And after 572 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: we started talking with a few teams, this was the 573 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: team that seemed most interested in, Oh, maybe we can 574 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: develop a relationship here and yeah, maybe he can be 575 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: our road course ringer. So this is a one off situation, 576 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: but if it goes well, maybe more opportunities. And the 577 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: way his business manager looked at it, Kurt, this is 578 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: a good commercial opportunity. This race is on Fox. It's 579 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: going to promote promote it heavily by Fox in combination 580 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: with IndyCar. I think it'll have a million viewers. And 581 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: with that, it's a rolling billboard. We've got room if 582 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: you want to join in with Browning Chapman in California closets. 583 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: You can even buy the on board. We have an 584 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 3: onboard that is available with Fox that if you want that, 585 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: I'll give it to you for what they're saying, because 586 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: it'd be good for Jackson to get some extra visibility 587 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: with guaranteed looks. So there you go. I can't announce 588 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: the other drivers because but I think there are some 589 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 3: others that are going to be doing this race. From 590 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: what I was hearing at the Rolex. People that we've 591 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: heard of, yes, yes, one. I don't know that everybody 592 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: would have heard of, but they probably should. It's somebody 593 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: who's really really good is one of the other names 594 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: that I've heard that, you know, one of the road 595 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: course ringer types should be fun. 596 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited for Dario, and of course I'm excited for Jackson, 597 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't watch a lot of truck 598 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: races these days, but I'll be glued into. 599 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: That one Saturday afternoon, the twenty eighth at noon, so 600 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: this will be before IndyCar qualifying. So it's by the way, 601 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: suites are fully sold out. I need more sweet tickets 602 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: because we've got a lot of guests, So if anybody 603 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 3: wants to sell some of their sweet tickets that they 604 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: have some, I can find a home with some of 605 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: our sponsors, and I've talked to some other people that 606 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: could use some as well, So if you got any extras, 607 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: we can find a good home for those. At this point, 608 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: all right, Tim Sindric is back with Team Penske. We'll 609 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: get into that more next. On track side. 610 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: This is Alex below and you're listening to Truck Site. 611 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: Well, the surprises haven't really stopped over the last few weeks. 612 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 3: We've got Dario Franketi returning to racing driving a NASCAR truck, 613 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 3: we've got a surprise announcement for an extra race in 614 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: a major city, and we've got Tim Sindrick who was fired. 615 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: Is that the right word. He was dismissed. Yeah, dismissed Yeah, 616 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: at before the ND five hundred last year. After leading 617 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: Team Penske for twenty plus twenty seven ish years. He 618 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: started in ninety nine, I think right, yep, yep is 619 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: one of his first tasks was to hire el e 620 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: oh for no, it' had been two thousand. 621 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: We two. 622 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: First season was two thousand, so would have been in 623 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 3: ninety nine. But at some point when Tim started, he's back. 624 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 3: We learned this last last week, and you know, if 625 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 3: you kind of read some of the comments, some of 626 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: those that are not Penske fans haven't been super supportive 627 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: of this news, thinking it's all charade, that it was 628 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: planned from the beginning. I doubt that. I also, though 629 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: don't doubt. I don't think it's a coincidence that this 630 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: was announced today after content day. They didn't want their 631 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: three drivers asking answering a lot of questions about this. 632 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 3: They'll be asked about it at some point, but it 633 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: will be older news. At this point. My first thought 634 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 3: is I'm happy that Tim is back, and he is 635 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 3: the one of the three with Ron Razuski and Kyle Moore. 636 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: Year I have said, I don't know if they'll come back. 637 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: You know, he was already looking to scale back a 638 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 3: little bit as it is. I think he's done pretty well. 639 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: He'd been pretty smart. He has a home on the 640 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: other side of the country. Maybe he's content. But what 641 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: came out of this is that you know, he probably 642 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: wondered the same, but it sounds like from the racer story. 643 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: By the end of twenty he decided I'm bored. And 644 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: I've said this before. He is, in my mind still 645 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: very young and has a lot of years ahead of 646 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 3: him if he wants to work, and I thought maybe 647 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: he might sit out for a couple three years and 648 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: find a new projects. One my guess is his phone 649 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: was ringing and he had offers, and two he decided, yeah, 650 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: I'm bored. I want to do something. So he called 651 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 3: up his replacement, Jonathan Dogood, and just said, hey, I 652 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: want to let you know some people are interested. I 653 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: don't think you have anything, but just want to let 654 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 3: you know. I'm going to go back to work, And 655 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 3: he probably was allowed to start to go back to 656 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: work January first, just like Ron Razuski was. So Tean 657 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: Penske is probably looking at this like, Huh, we're already 658 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: competing against Kyle Moyer and Ron Razuski. Do we want 659 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: to add Tim Sindrick to that list. And while there 660 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 3: are proprietary things you can't take with you, they and 661 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 3: stop you from sharing the things that you know and 662 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 3: the processes. So to me, this seems like Tim may 663 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: have simply forced their hand a little bit. I'm either 664 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 3: going to work with you or I'm going to work 665 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: against you, and I am happy to come back and 666 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 3: work with you in a different role. So he's still 667 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: suffered from this. If indeed he wanted to work more, 668 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 3: he's no longer the president, he's no longer the boss. 669 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: I can't imagine he's making the same salary, may not 670 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: be the same benefits. Probably ultimately is more like what 671 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 3: he wants to do work weekends, be able to compete, 672 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 3: impact the race, and do one of the things he's 673 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 3: really good at, and that strategy. And this is a 674 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 3: huge boost for Scott McLaughlin. And when I asked Scott 675 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: to content days, who's your strategist? He said, Uh, I 676 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 3: don't think I can say, And then was said the 677 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 3: next day. So this is big. It is big, and 678 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 3: it's big. You're right. 679 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: The beneficiary here is is Scott McLaughlin. 680 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 681 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: You know, I could have I could have predicted that 682 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: Tim would if he wanted to do something. It would 683 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: be just competitive in nature and race weekend in scope. 684 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: And this fits this to a team. I mean, he 685 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: comes into a program where he knows virtually everyone. I mean, 686 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how many new people they have in 687 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: the building, but it's very few compared to when he 688 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: left in May, so he knows almost everyone. It's going 689 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: to be a seamless transition for him. Be interesting, you 690 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: know when he doesn't lead the meeting, but he was 691 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: a good delegator anyway, So you know, I think it'll 692 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: be be fine. What's fascinating is when you just mentioned 693 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: and I had thought about it, but not really gave 694 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: it a lot of thought. Now I'm going to give 695 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: it a lot of thought. Who might be the competition 696 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: for his services in this in this sport, you know, 697 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: who wanted to hire him? And you know, because a 698 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: lot of teams have already made big, big splashes during 699 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: the off season, so. 700 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 3: Just something yeah, right, I'll just you know, they've hired 701 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 3: Jay Fry in that role. I'm going to guess, kind 702 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: of like with will Power, I think it's possible that 703 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 3: many teams called without offering a specific role, you know, 704 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 3: and they may have called, like ANDRETTI may have called 705 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: and said, you know, we've already got Ron running the organization, 706 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: but would you be interested in being a strategist something 707 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 3: like that there might have been And if he came 708 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 3: and said no, I want to run the whole operation 709 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 3: or I'm not coming, that might have ended some some conversations. 710 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 3: You know, McLaren is not shy about hiring people and 711 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 3: creating roles. Could they have created something for him? Tony 712 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 3: Kanaan is still asked to do an awful lot of things. 713 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot of teams that would 714 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 3: have been interested in his services if he were to 715 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 3: make himself available agreed it. All it takes is one. 716 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 3: All it takes is one with a firm off for 717 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: him to go to Team Penske and say, I'm going 718 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 3: to go back to work. They've got an offer. I'm 719 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 3: going to take it unless you want me. Because I've 720 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 3: been with Team Penske most of my adult life, and 721 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 3: that seems comfortable. 722 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I think you've nailed it. But it 723 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: is just interesting to think about what kind of opportunities 724 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: might might have been available to him. And the race 725 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: weekend part I think was key. He's got out other 726 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: business ventures and so just being a fly in, flyout 727 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: guy for the races is probably very attractive to him. 728 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: Okay. Next on the docket, Mick Schumacher tested on an 729 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: oval at Homestead yesterday for the first time, and by 730 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 3: all accounts it went well. What I took out of 731 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: this was nobody's been there for a while, so nobody 732 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: really had a setup under the current conditions. Yes, the 733 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 3: same car has been around since twelve twelve, but did 734 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: not have the extra weight of the hybrid. It's a 735 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: different tire, a lot of things have changed. The balance 736 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 3: is different, so one thing I read on racer was 737 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 3: that the balance was way off right. Height was very 738 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 3: high and made the car feel very loose, So that's 739 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: a positive. That's by the way, I'd have been pretty 740 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 3: worried if I'm Mick getting in and oval for the 741 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: first time and he was. I was ideally and saying yeah, 742 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 3: we're not sure the car is going to handle. You 743 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 3: need to figure this out. So that's a lot of trust. 744 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: Ideally you'd have had Graham Ray Hall in the car first, 745 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 3: but there are probably rules against that because the other 746 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: teams are not. They're going to say, now you're trying 747 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 3: to learn some things here, you're getting the extra test 748 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 3: day out of this. So sometimes there is that allowance 749 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: to put a veteran driver in, sometimes there is not. 750 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 3: I don't know what allows it or not, but presumably 751 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 3: if it would have been allowed, they would have had 752 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 3: Graham to shake it down. But Mick figured it out 753 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: pretty quickly and then they brought it down and then 754 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 3: it's got comfortable pretty fast. That track also eats tires. 755 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 3: Oh so they didn't get to run as much as 756 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 3: they would like, I think ninety seven last, but still 757 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 3: felt pretty good. So big positive. They're happy, happy to 758 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 3: hear that he felt good, and not that they're going 759 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 3: to immediately tell us it was awful. But he seems 760 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 3: like a pretty honest guy that he might say, whoa, 761 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 3: I had big eyes for a little bit, but well 762 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 3: he did have. 763 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: It got better, he did have, and that's what he said. 764 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: He said, you know, it was. It shook my confidence. 765 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: It was. 766 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: It was not a good experience initially, and you know 767 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: then they started figuring things out. You're right, they didn't 768 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,280 Speaker 1: have a lot of notes to go buy. That car 769 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: was not in play in twenty ten, the last time 770 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: they raced there. Ryan Briscoe is the driver coach now, 771 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: so that was helpful. Graham Ray Hall was on site, 772 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: so that was helpful. But they're not driving the car. 773 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you it was. You know, his best 774 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: lap was nearly twenty miles an hour, slower than the 775 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: pole speed back in twenty ten. But as you mentioned, 776 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: virtually everything about the sport, you know, in the equipment 777 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: is different than it was then. 778 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 3: So hard to say, yeah, I would bet they're going 779 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 3: to be they would be slower, and what is it? 780 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely wasn't it Phoenix. Weren't they way slower than they 781 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 3: were last time? The regulars like the Dixon and the company. 782 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 3: So it's just a kind of a different product of 783 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 3: the car and the tire and everything else that is 784 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 3: involved there. Oh, Dale a coin racing. So I said 785 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: last week on the show, I heard a driver is coming, 786 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 3: So I'm going to guess an announcement is coming as 787 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: of taping time, has there been an announcement? No, no, okay, 788 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 3: so I will. As has been reported in other outlets, 789 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 3: TBA was in attendance at IndyCar Content Days, did not 790 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 3: go to all of the rooms, but was ad in 791 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 3: the back of some selfie pictures that some drivers put 792 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 3: out there, so you could go find who that is. 793 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 3: But I'm not going to say who it is because 794 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 3: TBA came into our room and chatted with us a 795 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: little while and I said, so, by the fact, and 796 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 3: by the way, it was not Rogue was there with 797 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 3: the dale Coin Racing representative and among our chatter. I said, 798 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 3: you know, I'm assuming since you made the trip and 799 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 3: it was not just for media stuff and pictures in 800 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: a blank fire suit, which several drivers had, but you'd 801 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 3: take a physical, you know. So if I'm going to 802 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 3: take the physical, I might as well come over and 803 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 3: get some more things done. But confirmed that, Yeah, I 804 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't have done this if I don't think it's going 805 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 3: to happen. You know, it's expected to happen, but expecting 806 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 3: something to happen and happening are a different thing. And 807 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 3: every day that passes, I think you know the answer 808 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 3: is always money. We're waiting for some money to change 809 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 3: hands that will allow this to happen. So until that 810 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 3: so we said that content day was a deadline. We 811 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 3: obviously didn't meet that deadline. The next deadline is testing 812 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 3: at Sebring on Monday and Tuesday. Maybe but maybe not 813 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 3: because Dale Coyn is a smart businessman and just because 814 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 3: he would like to have things settled by Monday morning. 815 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 3: If he is, if there is some money that will 816 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 3: allow a driver to receive the salary they want and 817 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 3: fund the car, and if that is not finalized, then 818 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 3: it again is a bit of a game of chicken. 819 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 3: But there's a good chance. He just says no, there 820 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 3: are other drivers that are out there. So the list 821 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:50,439 Speaker 3: of drivers still includes Roma. Rojean Connor daily has said 822 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: he has significant budgets and said on his podcast last 823 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: week there is still a chance I'm racing at Saint Pete. 824 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 825 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 3: Just deducing through some of the things Connor said and 826 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 3: what I think, you know, I know he's trying not 827 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 3: to say too much. I think there is a possibility. 828 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 3: So one thing I wondered if Connor would be announced 829 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 3: with Dryer and Rhinebold for the five hundred that has 830 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 3: not happened either. Maybe it's been signed, maybe it has not. 831 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 3: I do not know whether that is happening. But I 832 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 3: could see a scenario where Connor does the NDY five 833 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 3: hundred for Dryer and Rhinebold and does extra races for 834 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 3: another team. So if Prema does not answer the bell, 835 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 3: and it seems highly unlikely to me, it seems virtually 836 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 3: impossible to me that they are running two cars full time. 837 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: Do we agree with that? 838 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think we can see a car, 839 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: but not highly. 840 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 3: I think it's highly unlikely that they're running one car 841 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 3: in every race. 842 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: Agreed, I still agree with that. 843 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,439 Speaker 3: I think I think it's better than fifty percent we 844 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 3: see a car in some races. So as long as 845 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 3: two are not running in every race, someone else can 846 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 3: roll out an extra car anytime they want and will 847 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 3: be guaranteed to make the race. And I wondered if 848 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 3: it might be drying Rainbold, So just kind of listening 849 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 3: to the way Connor was speaking, and also just use 850 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 3: any of my common sense, Like what I said last week, 851 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 3: it's really hard to do something that you've not been doing. 852 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 3: They are, even though they're very good. I don't know 853 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 3: that they don't have a road street course engineer on 854 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 3: the program. Maybe they could run the ovals. That would 855 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 3: be the most plausible thing, But if they wanted to 856 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 3: do something else, I think unfortunately you're running at the back. 857 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 3: So do you take the budget you have? And is 858 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 3: there another team? And I wonder about the team that 859 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 3: he ran for last year, who goes houling or racing? 860 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 3: Might they be open, especially if it's paid for, if 861 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 3: you've got sponsorship. So now it's also possible he could 862 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 3: just run in an extra car for them in the 863 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 3: INDY five hundred. But the good thing and what I 864 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 3: would sell about Dryer and Reinbold is if you do 865 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 3: well there, that's something that you can do every year. 866 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 3: It's good program. I would like the longevity possibility there 867 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 3: to do that worst case scenario. I know, and I 868 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 3: get it. Connor really wants to be a full time 869 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 3: INDI car driver again, but he might make a decision 870 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 3: at some point. I just want to be a race 871 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 3: car driver that's getting paid, or use the opportunity to 872 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 3: take my partnerships and get paid out of that and 873 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 3: do sports cars, do NASCAR, do whatever, but make it 874 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 3: centered around the NDY five hundred, in a good program. 875 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 3: So I don't know anything for certain there, but those 876 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 3: are I think some of the scenarios. I don't know 877 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 3: anything new about Prema other than the clock is ticking. 878 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 3: If they are not at Seabring, I think they could 879 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 3: still show up to Saint Pete without going to the 880 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 3: Sebring Test with Calami Lot and be successful. If they're 881 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 3: not at the Phoenix Test, then they shouldn't go to 882 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 3: the Phoenix Race. That would not be a good idea. 883 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 3: That's what I got. 884 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with it. 885 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 3: All right, we'll see what we missed and more coming 886 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 3: up in a moment. Trackside ninety three five and one 887 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 3: oh seven to. 888 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 4: Five fan, Hi, this is what Power and you're listening 889 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: to Trackside final segment. 890 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 3: What we missed? Next week's show is on Monday night 891 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 3: at seven o'clock. Make notes so it won't take us 892 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 3: long if we miss something. A lot of twitter x 893 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 3: questions about the political nature that obviously, when the president 894 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 3: has an executive order for your event, that becomes a 895 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 3: part of it, and I'm not getting into it. What 896 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 3: I often read or hear is sports fans don't want 897 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 3: to hear sports commentators offer political opinions and that's what 898 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 3: that would become. You know, this is kind of the 899 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 3: toy store. We like to get away. It's fun. And 900 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 3: I also know I'm not really qualified to know all 901 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 3: sides of the issues. This is about fun and entertainment, 902 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 3: and I try to stay in my lane and I 903 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 3: will here. I am excited to celebrate my country's two 904 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 3: hundred and fiftieth birthday. I don't want to live anywhere else. 905 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 3: I like it here, and I think this is a 906 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 3: great opportunity for IndyCar And I'm going to leave it 907 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 3: at that, and I'm excited. A question about Carbon Day bands, 908 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 3: that's Doug Bowles question. It's not going to be announced 909 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 3: for a while. They announced that a little bit later 910 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 3: on and other stuff we will get to coming up 911 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 3: next Monday night. Thanks so much for joining us. We'll 912 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 3: see you in have a good weekend, and thanks for 913 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 3: joining us on the fan.