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Speaker 1: catch the full podcast in its entirety on Patreon, Patreon,

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Speaker 1: dot com, slash Dead and Hip Hop. With that, you'll

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Speaker 1: get the rest of the show where we are going

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Speaker 1: to talk about some old school joints. Rod, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: take it back, take it back to the old school.

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Speaker 2: You're one of the.

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Speaker 1: Ones that get hyped with me about this album. Six

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Speaker 1: the Shaka.

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Speaker 3: It would ever, never ever be any Soup the Shocker,

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Speaker 3: Shame Hate. If I'm in the room every I'm always

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Speaker 3: gonna ride for Silk the Shaker every time.

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Speaker 4: I don't care who is in the room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yesterday. We're recording this on Wednesday, on the eighteenth.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, on the seventeenth, well, it was on

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Speaker 1: Hip Hop doubletsl H.

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Speaker 2: He dropped the.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety eight Silt the Shaker, H dropped this album.

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Speaker 1: Charge it to the game.

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Speaker 5: Familiar with this album, of course, I haven't listened to

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Speaker 5: it forever, but yeah, now, look, man, I was a big,

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Speaker 5: massive look bro. I was in Miami when that shit

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Speaker 5: came out, so Florida was all over No Limits. So

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Speaker 5: I listened to everything that came out of No Limit camp.

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Speaker 5: But you look, he is the duel Santana of No Limit.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's so disrespectful. I

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Speaker 5: don't know, sound right, Bro, if you don't listen to

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Speaker 5: camera camera say he go back and listen to Joel's

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Speaker 5: music more than he does his own. Like like he was,

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Speaker 5: he was a big draw for them, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. It's kind of what made them a little

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Speaker 5: bit different. Like you know, everybody I felt like was

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Speaker 5: the same, Like Silk was the most different out of everybody.

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Speaker 6: Him and mystical with my opinion, but everybody else was.

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Speaker 4: You know, this.

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Speaker 2: Joint got some bangers on it.

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Speaker 1: Bro to open the track, I'm a soldier, give me

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Speaker 1: the world, Throw your hood up, man, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Always b.

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Speaker 3: Right man Man Shaka he he was a pioneer.

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Speaker 4: Man that all Kilcher rap.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, That offbeat stuff man, that

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Speaker 3: that was Silk, super shocker man over you know, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: No, I was saying, I used to play this album

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Speaker 1: all you too, me too?

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Speaker 4: Can oh?

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Speaker 1: I had no idea that people felt this way about

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Speaker 1: self the Chaka Bro.

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Speaker 4: I did know.

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Speaker 3: I can't say I didn't know that because even back

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Speaker 3: then he wasn't people's favorite, but I always personally like Silk,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and the people like Charges to the Game.

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Speaker 3: They just you know, people always had this kind of

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Speaker 4: So it's not it's not surprising to me.

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Speaker 1: I think I've always just just you know what, my

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Speaker 1: the eighteenth True to the Game. I think that with them,

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Speaker 1: I think people just kind of understood they were who

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Speaker 1: and it was just high energy, like you put on

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Speaker 2: I don't care who you.

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Speaker 6: Are, you get the most pretentious.

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Speaker 1: Ever that ship come on, something wrong with you if

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, to me, that was the album that

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Speaker 5: That Uh and Ghetto d about It bout it. Those

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Speaker 5: Tru was was like swamp nigga. Uh uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's been a minute since I listened to that swamp Niggah.

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Speaker 5: There was like two or three other ones that was

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Speaker 5: too freak holes yea said shout out future, trying to

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, But nah.

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Speaker 5: Man like Tru was one of the ones. Tru broke

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Speaker 5: like that was Bro. I'll never forget the first time

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Speaker 5: I heard no living soldiers Bro. We was playing football

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Speaker 6: So I got my hands on the CD. I was

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Speaker 6: B Yeah, man like t r U Bro t r U.

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Speaker 6: That's one of the ones. You still ain't use them,

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Speaker 6: Damn jail audios.

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Speaker 2: Can oh man, Lord, here we go, Here we go.

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Speaker 3: It is probably the wires probably like turned the dust

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Speaker 4: Bro, that phone is probably probably dry rotted.

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Speaker 6: Hell yeah, powder breastfeed like this. Oh man, okay, jail audio, do.

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Speaker 4: You still actually have them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That is wild. Bro.

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Speaker 6: The bitch is like that old bro.

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Speaker 4: Yo, that is man. You probably Man.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if, like, I don't know if people do

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Speaker 3: collection collective's items on that type of stuff, but man,

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Speaker 4: Done, oh man, done, These things will be done. God leads.

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Speaker 4: That's a long time, bro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is real quick. People they're excited about you

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Speaker 3: on the coaches. You're not all the all the comments

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Speaker 3: about you. Oh really all the comments where you are

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Speaker 3: seeing this atue, it's only he hasn't posted.

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Speaker 4: Right now, like like you know how we do.

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Speaker 6: That about YouTube?

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Speaker 4: YouTube?

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Speaker 3: Like they already making comment. They're like yo, like they

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Speaker 3: that hip hop like everything is that in hip hop?

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Speaker 4: And that's crazy. I'm telling you, man, we look people

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Speaker 4: sleeping on the influence. Bro. We started around table.

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Speaker 2: With our whole table.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, man shout out to those two albums. Man, if

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Speaker 2: And here's what I'll say. If if you guys.

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Speaker 1: Want us to to do an in depth discussion or

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Speaker 1: You know, we could put something together because there's some joints.

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Speaker 1: I was just kind of skimming it through it a

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Speaker 4: Want man, we need to make a playlist, can.

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Speaker 2: Man? Yeah, we need to make.

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Speaker 4: An efficient soccer playlist.

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Speaker 3: And just like, look y'all for those that don't know

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, it's like you we're the old gez this.

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Speaker 1: You guys come to us, man, you know and know,

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Speaker 1: I know some of us found like we put stuff

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Speaker 1: we all been coming to space for fifteen years. But

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Speaker 1: you know, we can give you guys a definitive playlist

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Speaker 1: of Silk the Chaka songs. Don't listen to what everybody's saying, man,

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Speaker 5: Right, how many joints, like like, like how many joints

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Speaker 4: I don't man.

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Speaker 6: Features that I can make it.

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Speaker 4: I can make a solid twenty playlist geary.

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Speaker 3: Tea, I can make you won't skip, you won't skip,

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Speaker 3: I can make I think I can make a solid

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Speaker 2: We might do that one day. We might.

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Speaker 1: We might just sit here and I can put it

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Speaker 1: since it will be Patreon, we can actually play some

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Speaker 2: So for you guys.

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Speaker 1: But shout out to Arab and Rokim paid and Fool

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Speaker 1: got inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame. There was

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Speaker 1: a whole nasty conversation from Gene Simmons about that. There

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Speaker 1: I've been talking about Rocquim. We had a whole Rocky

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's still a very very influential album

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Speaker 4: So they do albums. They don't do like just the artists.

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Speaker 4: They do albums.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the album. Hold on, let me let

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was. I thought it was the artist.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me an artist.

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Speaker 4: I mean, clearly Kendrick.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that's the given answer, you know. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Kendrick would definitely at some point go in the Hall

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Who else?

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Speaker 6: M I think the Big Three will drake?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they albums they do albums Roight the Grand Album.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this this is the Grammy Hall of Fame, not

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: All Eyes on Me is on there, Rhythm Nation yet

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Speaker 4: Still sticking with Kendrick.

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Speaker 3: I think Kendrick have two albums in the Good Kid,

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Speaker 3: Mass City and Butterfly.

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Speaker 4: I think those could have gone there. Dang we who else? Who?

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Speaker 4: Who else? Am I thinking about?

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Speaker 3: Like this day and age when you say, like what

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Speaker 3: you're saying twenty twenty up or like.

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Speaker 2: It could be twenty twenty up? You know it could be.

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Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the full list of albums told

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Speaker 1: on what are the requirements?

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Speaker 2: How old? But I think those are those are two

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Speaker 1: Of course, we're definitely We're definitely twenty five years old,

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Speaker 1: so it has to be twenty five years old.

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Speaker 4: Oh really? Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 6: Two thousand so oh one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Kanye West, my beautiful, dark, twisted Fantasy that can

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to get in. Do you think

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Speaker 5: Worthy I don't think you know that that's my favorite battle.

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Speaker 6: I don't think. I don't think it's making the Hall

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, but I feel

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Speaker 3: A Jay album isn't all in there already, I mean

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Speaker 4: Not already yeahs.

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Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame aims to honor recordings that have

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Speaker 4: Blueprint for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think Blueprint, my Beautiful, Dark, Twisted Fantasy was a time,

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Speaker 4: I feel like one of the Drakes can get in there too,

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Speaker 1: Give me a few in there, will We'll move on that.

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Speaker 5: As much as I like Supreme Clientele by Ghostraight, so

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Speaker 5: I don't think that that's gonna make it.

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Speaker 6: Damn in two thousand.

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Speaker 2: It's a hot mark when you talk about Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: When we're talking about Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: It needs to be up there. So the bro three

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Speaker 6: six Mafield want to smoke clears? Should that be in

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Speaker 1: If if we're talking to hip hop, maybe, but we're

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Speaker 6: Well I think it. I think it's shaped Atlanta's run

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Speaker 5: And and and and you know three Sixes is always

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Speaker 6: Influential they are but don't get the credit for.

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Speaker 4: But I mean album that's the case which one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like at Aliens or like a Crimini probably.

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Speaker 4: I think Equiminal were going there.

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Speaker 4: It's just one of those times. Crimini is my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, you guys watching man, let us know

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Speaker 1: the standard has to be high. I know they like

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Speaker 1: of what apps you guys think are Hall of Fame worthy.

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, we'll leave it there, but shout out

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Speaker 2: My golden era without the Source.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have the Source, you probably don't have

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Speaker 2: And if you don't know Switch the House, you know

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Speaker 6: You know Mike Jones, you know Slim Thug, you.

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Speaker 1: Know Paul Wall you know yep, all because of him,

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Speaker 1: Any of you guys get into those DJ ron Ce tapes,

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Speaker 1: and we're singing now. I saw earlier today that doctor

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