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Speaker 2: I love Saint Pete. I love the city, one of

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Speaker 2: I love that That's where we started our season. Everybody

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Speaker 2: All of us wanted to win the first race. It

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Speaker 2: all starts here. Race week, the Firestone Grand Prix of

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Speaker 2: Sunday right here on the radio and also on Fox Television.

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Speaker 2: Noon is the airtime on Sunday. Welcome the track Side

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Speaker 2: Cavin are close enough. Thanks for joining us on the

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Speaker 2: program tonight. You know we always lament the long off

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Speaker 2: And I think that time has kind of passed unless

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Speaker 2: at the Miami Dolphin Stadium. Yeah, I almost just a

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I was struck by the fact.

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Speaker 2: So the start of this season is ultra critical for Joseph.

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Speaker 2: Be better on OVAL's this year. And he was the

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you something. And I haven't been

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Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't come.

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Speaker 2: What I have are the combined results, and lun Guard

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of cases when you replace a legend,

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Speaker 2: In a race.

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Speaker 1: You know, the power is going to be strong at

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say power.

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Speaker 1: Me too, Me too, but it's I wouldn't risk your

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Speaker 2: next one. So, which driver wins more races? I'm still

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Speaker 2: going to say power, But I believe David Malucas will

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking out loud, and I'll probably regret that

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Speaker 1: you know, six eight months is helpful to David Malucas

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Speaker 2: That's fair point. Yeah, it's new for everyone. Larn Razuski

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Speaker 1: It's it feels like the whole organization could be like

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Speaker 2: I could see a Ben Bretzman really liking the idea

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Speaker 2: He's kind of taken the opportunity to take some people

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Speaker 2: that he wanted from the twelve team to put on

433
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Speaker 2: his car because power moved on, and you know, he's

434
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Speaker 2: the veteran that's in the shop. That it starts with

435
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Speaker 2: what you said, the most fascinating development this year will

436
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Speaker 2: be how it all works out with team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree. You know, McLoughlin's standing is going to

438
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Speaker 1: improve because he's going to score some more points because

439
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Speaker 1: Devil d Francesco isn't magnetized to his car this season,

440
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Speaker 1: so that will help him in at least two races. So

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Speaker 1: we've gone all this time, we've still not really mentioned

442
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Speaker 1: Alex Polow. I assume you, like me, like probably everyone

443
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Speaker 1: in the sport thinks you're gonna have to beat Polow

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Speaker 1: to beat the championship, to get the championship. If he's

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Speaker 1: got the best odds, what percentage would you say he

446
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Speaker 1: is for the championship? And I'll start, I think he's

447
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Speaker 1: eighty five eighty eight percent for the championship. I think

448
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Speaker 1: he's that strong. Now will he win by one hundred

449
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Speaker 1: and ninety six points?

450
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Speaker 2: Again?

451
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Speaker 1: Probably not, But I think I think you know, if

452
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Speaker 1: we run the simulator eight and a half nine times

453
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Speaker 1: out of ten, he's gonna win the championship.

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Speaker 2: Ninety one point two. Do you like it more than

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Speaker 2: I do? I don't know how to do the plus

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Speaker 2: numbers that they do, and yeah, that's why I did

457
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Speaker 2: a percentage. Yeah, I don't know what that means at all.

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Speaker 2: So I'll just say, you know, there is a chance,

459
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Speaker 2: and this is you know, it's not like you're running

460
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Speaker 2: one hundred yard one hundred meter dash and no one

461
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Speaker 2: can get in your way. Now, you could come up

462
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Speaker 2: against someone who's just really, really good and beat you.

463
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Speaker 2: But there aren't a lot of crashes in track and field,

464
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Speaker 2: but here you just have things that go wrong. You know,

465
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Speaker 2: injuries happen in sport, but mechanicals and so forth. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I still like plow. Nothing has changed from last year car.

467
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Speaker 2: There's some new tracks, but generally speaking, nothing has changed,

468
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Speaker 2: so it's hard to go against them.

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Speaker 1: Here's a question. I didn't give you time to prepare for,

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Speaker 1: but what would you set the over under in terms

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Speaker 1: of number of race wins for him? This year? There

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Speaker 1: are eighteen races, so more than last year, and he

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Speaker 1: won eight last year.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say less. I think it be spread

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Speaker 2: around more. And I'm going to say to you over

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Speaker 2: under his five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was thinking five and a half.

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Speaker 1: You'd either have to take six or five. And I

479
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: think I think he probably wins five or six. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but he's and I don't know what the point total is.

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Speaker 1: But it's funny because if he only wins by thirty

482
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Speaker 1: or forty points, you're gonna say it was I don't

483
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Speaker 1: want to say subpar, but you're gonna wonder what happened.

484
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Speaker 2: Well, I think we're going to celebrate whoever made it close.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean, I do think that is the

486
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Speaker 2: hook this year. That is the draw. Can anyone beat

487
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Speaker 2: Alex Polow? Even if he wins the first three races

488
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Speaker 2: and we know the championship is over, That's still what

489
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Speaker 2: I'm going to want to watch, is we can week out,

490
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: can anyone beat this guy? And maybe they can?

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Speaker 1: Let's get one more here before we you probably need

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Speaker 1: to get a break. So if we have a title

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Speaker 1: favorite in the non Alex Polo division, who you got

494
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Speaker 1: who's the best shot to win the championship. But if

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Speaker 1: it's not Alex Blow, you know.

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Speaker 2: You can argue it's to Joseph Nugarten because of that

497
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Speaker 2: killer mentality that he has shown ripping out hearts in

498
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Speaker 2: television commercials. I'm going to go a little bit different

499
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Speaker 2: Kyle Kirkwood. I think the Andretti program is going to

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Speaker 2: take a step forward this year. I think that Kirkwood

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Speaker 2: will have slightly better results than will Power. It's got

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Speaker 2: to take will a little bit of time to acclimate

503
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Speaker 2: to get you've been doing it the same way forever.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll come closer and quicker than others have.

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Speaker 2: I remember talking with Elio KASTRINEVZ the first time he

506
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Speaker 2: drove a non Penske car, and it was like starting

507
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Speaker 2: all over again because a Penske car is a Penske car. Now.

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Speaker 2: Now the difference with Power is that he is going

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Speaker 2: to another top level team, not someone that is, you know,

510
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: maybe what you would call midfield or something along those lines.

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Speaker 2: At that time, the team that Eliot went to had

512
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Speaker 2: not won a race, and they've won one race and

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Speaker 2: it was him in the Indianapolis five hundred. So I

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Speaker 2: think Kirkwood, We've added more street courses Andretti's going to

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Speaker 2: be strong. I think he's kind of figured it out

516
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Speaker 2: on ovals now. I think Ron Razuski and others are

517
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Speaker 2: going to bring some positive attributes. Could be a dark horse.

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Speaker 2: This guy's the best junior American driver that we've seen

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Speaker 2: in a couple of generations.

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Speaker 1: Since thinking about these types of questions over the last

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Speaker 1: three or four days, I really have convinced myself that

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Speaker 1: it is going to be truly feast or famine with Joseph.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's he's that guy because I think

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Speaker 1: he could get hot. He's the one guy. If I

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Speaker 1: set the over under for alex Poalow at five and

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Speaker 1: a half wins. He's the one guy other than Alex

527
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Speaker 1: that could win five or six races. I know Mojo back,

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Speaker 1: I know Kirkwood is going to be really you know,

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Speaker 1: his future is bright and there's going to be years

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Speaker 1: where he wins five races, or there will be a

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Speaker 1: year when he wins five races, assuming Alex Blow doesn't

532
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Speaker 1: stay in the ten car the rest of his life.

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Speaker 1: But I think Joseph's capable of throwing together three in

534
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Speaker 1: a row and a couple good seconds and being in contention.

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Speaker 1: So I'll take Joseph. Also, he could also be tenth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, More burning questions coming up at a moment

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Speaker 2: as we get ready for the IndyCar season opener this

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Speaker 2: weekend from sunny Saint Pete's. This is Alex below and

539
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: you're listening to truck Site. We've got a few news

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Speaker 2: notes to get to before we're done, but we're continuing

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Speaker 2: with Kurt's burning questions list. We're about halfway through. Please continue.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we got to get to Saint Pete

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Speaker 1: because it's the first race of the season, because it's

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Speaker 1: this weekend. One thing, and maybe then in the notes

545
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Speaker 1: you were gonna nuggets, you were going to throw out.

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Speaker 1: But remember that that teams this year will have to

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Speaker 1: use two sets of the alternate tires in Saint Pete.

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Speaker 1: And I think we'll be calling those red tires, not

549
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Speaker 1: green tires. But I think they'll all be red tires

550
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: through the course of the season and we'll know that.

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00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: I guess I think we're going to know that anyway,

552
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: because I because I can't call the green ones green,

553
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: I seem to call them red.

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Speaker 2: But it's been a request that we've had for a

555
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: little bit because here's and our director Mitch Riggan came

556
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: up with this. As we're broadcasting, think of Aunt Linda.

557
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: Let's not confuse Aunt Linda. We are trying to bring

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Speaker 2: more people into the tent that we're on on network television,

559
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: so let's try not to confuse them. And when you know,

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Speaker 2: and that's why we went from hards and softs in

561
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Speaker 2: part because they had different colors. And you ask a

562
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Speaker 2: driver and Aunt Linda is looking at a green side

563
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Speaker 2: wall tire and he's talking about blacks and reds because

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Speaker 2: they're just programmed to talk about reds, and that's so confusing.

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00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: So that's been a request and I hope that happened yeah,

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00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: me too. We just have one color for the softs

567
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Speaker 2: and one color for the hard, so that will be good.

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Speaker 2: I love this idea. And one of the reasons this

569
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Speaker 2: happened was last year the soft the green was even softer,

570
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Speaker 2: and everyone asked for that. They wanted a bigger difference

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Speaker 2: between the hards and the softs, but it was a

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Speaker 2: little bit too far. And then you had the perfect

573
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Speaker 2: scenario with a crash at the beginning of the race

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Speaker 2: and everyone has that started unsofts has fulfilled the requirement,

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Speaker 2: and most of them dumped and never ran it again.

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Speaker 2: And then it became a bit of fuel saving and

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Speaker 2: everyone was on the same tire. And that's really what

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Speaker 2: the alternate tire rule is for. Is it's sometimes difficult

579
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Speaker 2: to pass on rodent street courses, so let's spice things

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Speaker 2: up a little bit and let's try to get as

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Speaker 2: many different people. Those are the matchups that work. When

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Speaker 2: someone's on a faster tire at the beginning of a

583
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Speaker 2: stint the soft, they can pass. But if you try

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Speaker 2: to stay out too long on that soft, it goes

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Speaker 2: back over to where the hard. The black is going

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Speaker 2: to be better. And now you add in this caveat

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Speaker 2: you've got to run it twice. I've been of the

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Speaker 2: mindset that we need more pit stops. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to see two stop races. I would like to see

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Speaker 2: them shrink the fuel tank if they need be. If

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Speaker 2: you can only do if you can get it done

592
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: on an eighteen and a half gallon tank in two stops,

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Speaker 2: let's shrink it a little bit. Teams are spending a

594
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Speaker 2: lot of money, a lot of effort to get pit

595
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Speaker 2: stops done. Those are exciting for fans. It shakes things up.

596
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: The blend is always exciting. Now we're probably going to

597
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Speaker 2: have four pit stops unless yellows come at the right time.

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Speaker 2: I think the soft is going to last longer. So

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Speaker 2: last year it was lasting ten to twelve laps when

600
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Speaker 2: people did finally have to run it or stayed out

601
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Speaker 2: a little bit longer. I would expect it at Saint

602
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Speaker 2: Pete to last a little bit longer. But can it

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Speaker 2: go more than fifteen? You know, if it can't go

604
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: twenty or close to that, it's going to be hard

605
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Speaker 2: to do it on three stops. So I love this thought,

606
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: and this is on all the street races, yep. So

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00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: who's who do you like it? At St. Pete. Who's

608
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Speaker 2: your pick? I'll go back if I'm going to say

609
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Speaker 2: my best contender to Alex Plow is Kyle Kirkwood. I

610
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: better pick him where he's best on street races, you know,

611
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Speaker 2: as much as I wanted to say will Power and

612
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: that'd be the best story, will Power wins on debut

613
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: where he's always been good and has won what nine

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Speaker 2: poles at Saint Pete wins?

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Speaker 1: Two wins nine races. Still two wins nine poles.

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Speaker 2: Bits, I feel like a top five or a six,

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Speaker 2: you know, making the fast six will is not really

618
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: winning a lot of poles anymore. Making the fast six

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Speaker 2: and finishing in the top five or six will be

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Speaker 2: a win for will Power in his first race with

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Speaker 2: the team.

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Speaker 1: I got Kirkwood this weekend, so I'm going to go

623
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Speaker 1: with the master of strategy. He got beat on a

624
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: situation last year, a little bit out of his control.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Scott Dixon. You know, you got an

626
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Speaker 1: extra variable with new sets tires. I just think he's

627
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: he's the best at tires saving anyway, fuel saving, and

628
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: it certainly fuel saving, I think with an extra stopping

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Speaker 1: factored in, it's it's Scott Dixon.

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Speaker 2: So here's the other one to think about that I'm

631
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: going to have to throw out there eventually over the weekend.

632
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 2: If someone wants to do it on three stops and

633
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: use only one set of hards, that means you've got

634
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Speaker 2: to make the tires last, You've got to make the

635
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Speaker 2: safts last. Who's best at doing that? The ten car? Yeah,

636
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: Alex pull up. Yeah. So I eat all this. We

637
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: say the ten is still the smart pick to win

638
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: this race this weekend, but I'm choosing to pick others.

639
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: So I pose this question for our inside line on

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Speaker 1: IndyCar dot com this week, so I will sort of

641
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: preview my answer there. But what's something you'd like to

642
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: see this weekend?

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00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: Is it?

644
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: And I'll give you mine as kind of an example.

645
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: I would like to say, see Renas VK and it

646
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: come out of the box with a top six seven

647
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Speaker 1: type of performance that tells us that hunkhs Hollinger is

648
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: on the right path of winning their first race at

649
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: some point here in the near future. Rena's was pretty

650
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: good there last year. I would love to see, you know,

651
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: we talked about this last week from a macro sense,

652
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: Let's see the teams that made what we think are

653
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: really strong, you know, improvements over the offseason, mostly in

654
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: terms of management and some in terms of driver hiring

655
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: and so forth. The midfield teams come out of the

656
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: box showing strong and I'll specifically look at Hunkhs Hollinger

657
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: with Ryan Hutter or with Rena's VK.

658
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: I'd like to see the number twenty two brunning chap

659
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: and yeah, let's not get punted from behind or used

660
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: as a break, which is what Jordan Taylor tells me

661
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: that they all do that in NASCAR trucks. They don't break,

662
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: They just hit the vehicle in front of them and

663
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: move them out of the world. So that's the goal,

664
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: and there's already a pact between Hinchcliff, Colin and dar

665
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: Hill to not hit each other. Outside of that, in

666
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: the IndyCar race, you know, as I talked about, it'd

667
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: be fun to see Power get off to a good start.

668
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: But beyond that, how about a top six for Nolan Siegel.

669
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: He's a really nice young man who is going to

670
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: be fine if it doesn't work out. Someone else is

671
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: going to welcome Nolan in their program in twenty twenty seven,

672
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: but he wants to stay with Aerol McLaren, and if

673
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: it does not get off to a good start, there

674
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: is going to be a steady stream of prospective free agents,

675
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: especially anytime Zach Brown is at a race making their

676
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 2: way quietly into the Arrow McLaren area to raise their hand,

677
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: because remember, these deals are often done by the end

678
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: of May, and they're going to start talking about it

679
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: in May. So I would like to make this a

680
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: tougher decision for everyone, and I think it'd be fun

681
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: to see Nolan show some of the promise that he

682
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: has shown coming up. He's twenty one years old.

683
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: We talked about first time winners to some degree in

684
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: the vein of David Malucas. I think he could certainly

685
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: win a race, and I admitted him in the question

686
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: options I gave you. But is there anybody else you

687
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: think could win a for race this year as a

688
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: first timer as Rasmusten did last year? Your candidates would

689
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: be Marcus Armstrong for Rucci, Kiff and Simpson Lou Foster.

690
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: Outside of Melucas, who I think is probably not easy pick.

691
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: He's the easy pick. I'm going to say Marcus Armstrong

692
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: is the next pick. Yeah, he's taken a step forward

693
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: each year. He's in really good equipment. He's been I

694
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: think quick in most of the timing sessions and test

695
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: sessions I've seen so far, so he'd be my pick.

696
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: I think Kevin Simpson is probably still a year away

697
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: from that.

698
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: Keiff and Simpson is still a year away. But I

699
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: think there's a scenario where one of these races, I mean,

700
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Charlie Kimbell won Mid Ohio with the strategies of Chip

701
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: Ganassi Racing, you could see something like that, you know,

702
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: come to fruition. Let's talk about the NDY five hundred.

703
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I want to move it along because we need to

704
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: get to some other things. But if I gave you

705
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: all the former winners Dixon, Hday, Power, Rossi, Psado, Ericson,

706
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: Joseph Polo or the field, I think I know what

707
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: you choose.

708
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: But let's let's see what you think. What do you

709
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: think I'll choose.

710
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: I think you'll choose the former winners because Polo's in

711
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: there and new gardens in there.

712
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: But I'm maybe not. I think it's close. I think

713
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: it's close. But I really like Poto Awards chances. I

714
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: like Scott McLaughlin's chances. I like David Malucas's chances in

715
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: a Penske car. How about a first time win? He finished.

716
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: I think there is a great chance for our first

717
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: time winner, Potto mc lachlan Malucas. I think Kirkwood is

718
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: going to be strong. He's been inching forward each year. Rasmussen,

719
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: if the ECR cars are good like they always are,

720
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: we know he's fearless. Yeah, I would not count out

721
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: Rasmussen and I wouldn't count out Santino Ferrucci either.

722
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Well, that's a relationship continuing, you know. Ras We talked

723
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: about this a couple of weeks. So Rasmussen was number

724
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: two in or number three, number two or three three,

725
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: I guess, behind Polo and Poto award in Oval points

726
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: last year, and that's with not scoring hardly any at

727
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Nashville to end the season because of his crash. So

728
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year three interesting candidates, Dennis Hauger at

729
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: dale Coin Racing, Mix Schumacher at Ray Hall Letterman, and

730
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Kolett at aj FOYT. Rookie of the Year is.

731
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: I think it's Mix Schumacher. We talked about this a

732
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. I just think that team is further

733
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: ahead they even if they don't make the progress they

734
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: are hoping to make. And Graham ray Halt, and we

735
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: chatted with him a few weeks ago, he had more

736
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: cautious optimism than he normally does to open the season.

737
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: He just said, it's going to take time for Gavin

738
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: Ward and the other people to come in and make

739
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: a real difference. And I'm not sure he said that

740
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: they will have a big impact by the time we

741
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: get to May. But they were better on quite a

742
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: few road courses last year. So I think he's going

743
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 2: to have five or six opportunities where the car is

744
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: going to be good enough, if he's as good as

745
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: we think he is, where he can be in the

746
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: top ten. Remember last year's Rookie of the Year didn't

747
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 2: have a top ten.

748
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were both down there quite a ways.

749
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like Schumacher's experience as well. You know,

750
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: we've talked about a lot of cars, a lot of

751
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: teams here, a lot of drivers, quite a few races.

752
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: But at the end of the year, which driver are

753
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: most people going to say? And I threw that in

754
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: there because you and I dissect this a little closer

755
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: than some most people are going to say, wow, I

756
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: didn't see that coming at all. For good or for bad?

757
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: Witch Driver, are we going to say I didn't see

758
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: that coming.

759
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: I'll choose for good because I don't want to wish

760
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: an awful year on anyone. So I'm going to say

761
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: I have two choices. Malucas would be one, but I

762
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: think a lot of people will see that. So I

763
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 2: don't know if that qualifies, but I think people are

764
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: looking at him and still wondering why Penske made the

765
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: decision that they did. Let's think of from this perspective. One,

766
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: Team Penske's really smart. Two. David Malucas has been hired

767
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: by Errol McLaren and Team Penske. So somebody is seeing

768
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: something in this young man who's still just twenty four

769
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: years old. I think it's there, and I I think

770
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: it's going to work out for him. Beyond that, if

771
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: we think that that's expected because he's in a Penske car,

772
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: what if Marcus Ericson finishes in the top eight, maybe

773
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: even top ten in the championship. And if he does

774
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: that and he's a factor at Indy, I think you

775
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: have to tell Dennis Halger, I'm sorry you're going to

776
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: stay with Dale cooinn Racing for another year, and I

777
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: think they will do that. I think if Marcus has

778
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: a solid year, I don't know what. I don't think

779
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: he has to be top ten. We talked about this

780
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: before too. I think everyone will be content to do

781
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: status quo.

782
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: So I think, my wow, I didn't see that coming.

783
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: Was an ECR car in Victory Land at Indy. I'm

784
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: not sure which one, but I think one of them

785
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: could be there that they have run there really well

786
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: in the past, not as much recently, but Rasbusen was

787
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: six last year. I think Rossi's Rossi. I think they

788
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 1: look better, they qualified better, They race better at Indy

789
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: than any other place. And I think I think this

790
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: is a year Eca wins a race and most people are.

791
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: Shocked, but we shouldn't be shocked. I get it, so

792
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: I said most so long, and Rossi is as good

793
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: as anybody in that place. And Rats missing at the

794
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: end is probably if he's got a chance, he's going

795
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: to win it or spin it.

796
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: Two more quick ones for you, the over under on

797
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: how many races you think Prema or a spinoff of Prema.

798
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: How many races do they compete in this year?

799
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: So one of the things we can do in a second.

800
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: I did a little math today to get to thirty

801
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: three and beyond for the Indy five hundred, Okay, and

802
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm taking them. I'm putting them on the maybe list.

803
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: I'm just taking them out. So I'm going to say

804
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: one point five. I'm going to say they probably still

805
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: do the Indy five hundred, but I don't have a

806
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: lot of confidence in that. Maybe I should go too

807
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: point five. I've heard nothing since the last comments that

808
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: others have had, you know, talk to people at the

809
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: role X, have seen some other public comments. But I

810
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: just kind of think if they were making some progress,

811
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: I think I would have heard something. Now my year

812
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: is not to the ground because I haven't been at

813
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: the test, but I know Bob Pokers has and Bob

814
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: tells me when he hears of a rumor. And I

815
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: didn't hear from Bob that hey, it's sounding good from Prema.

816
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: I think that would have kind of gone through Phoenix

817
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: last week if things were trending in the right direction.

818
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: So maybe I should say point five is the over

819
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: under for them. Yeah.

820
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: Un Fortunately I don't have close enough ear I haven't

821
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: called Pierce Phillips, I just purposely staying out of this one.

822
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: But I think it's one and a half. I think

823
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: you're spot on. I wanted to say four and a half,

824
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't have a lot of confidence there.

825
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: Last one SOS, we talked a lot about Joseph in

826
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: this in this segment, yes or no? Is he driving

827
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: a Team Penske car in twenty twenty seven? What's your hunch?

828
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: Well, going back to when I said, who's going to

829
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 2: finish best among the Penske drivers. If that happens, then

830
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: I think Joseph Newgarten is driving a Penske car in

831
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. But I have no idea, and I

832
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: don't think Joseph Newgarden knows at this point. I don't

833
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: know with one hundred percent certainty that his contract is up,

834
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: but I suspect it is. Has it been firmly reported anywhere?

835
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's We've talked about it so much.

836
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: I've almost convinced myself that it has been been stated,

837
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: but they just don't talk about it.

838
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's always hard because he's probably under contract

839
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty seven, but it might be a mutual

840
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: option he just had. The key is how he starts

841
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: the season. If it starts poorly, I don't know what

842
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: that means. If he's start arts poorly, how much clamoring

843
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: is there for him. I think there still is. I

844
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: think there still is too. I think he Jaron would

845
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: still go after him no matter what he does, thinking

846
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: he just needs a change of scenery. And if I'm

847
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: Joseph Newgarden, I am working into this next contract that

848
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not going for maximum dollars. He doesn't really

849
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: want to do all the things, and I understand this.

850
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: He said, I'm a little bit introverted. He doesn't want

851
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,479
Speaker 2: to do quite as much that is asked of young

852
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: drivers that are that you just can't say no. You

853
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: have to do every sponsor appearance, everything for the team,

854
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: the series, and so on. It might not be a

855
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: bad idea for him to negotiate clauses and bring that number.

856
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: They all have a number of appearances that they are making.

857
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: Bring that number down. He's in his mid thirties. Now,

858
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: let's manage life a little bit more rather than take

859
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: the top dollar and a new contract is the time

860
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: to redo that.

861
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: I think he'll get his top dollar and I think

862
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: he'll get fewer appearances. I just think, and he dodged

863
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: the question at content day. I think he really really

864
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: would like a different outlook on life, a different perspective

865
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: on how a team runs, just something different. I just

866
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: think he's ready for a change. But there is you know,

867
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: nobody at He's.

868
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: Team Penske on their own will Power would have stayed.

869
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: If they had offered him a one year contract in

870
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: May or June, he would have stayed.

871
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: But we both agree that Joseph his drum beats a

872
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: little different than some even Power is. Even though Power's

873
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: drum beats as different as anybody's, Joseph is just a

874
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: little bit different in that respect.

875
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: All Right, here's what I got Indy five hundred. So

876
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: I had kind of done the math on twenty seven

877
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: full time, and we look at extras. Now I'm just

878
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 2: saying twenty five because we clearly only have twenty five

879
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: full time, and even if Prema runs, it's going to

880
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: be a few events. And by the way, Robert Schwartzman

881
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: today was named Mercedes F one development driver. Doesn't mean

882
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: he couldn't do the Indy five hundred. He could, so

883
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: we have I believe twenty nine confirmed car and driver

884
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: injuries Ed Carpenter, Ryan Hunter, Ray Jack Harvey, Eliokastrinevetz, And

885
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: that is fifteen Cheves fourteen Hondas, which is important when

886
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: you look at this. Now, we all think Dryan Reinbold

887
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: is running an extra car. I think that is ninety nine,

888
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: if not one hundred percent happening has not been announced yet.

889
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: I think it's Connor Daily, but I don't know that.

890
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I think Andretti is running a

891
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: fourth car that would get you to thirty one. I

892
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: think it's for Colden Hurda, but it's not been announced yet.

893
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if they need to s see how

894
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 2: the F two seasons stok. By the way, Colton's looking

895
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: pretty quick in preseason testing. He's been running like fourth

896
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: to seventh. Then he's getting on the ball pretty good,

897
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: and he has much more experience than everyone else. So

898
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to watching F two races this year.

899
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: Thirty two is what I think we have because I

900
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: think ray Haall Letterman Lanigan is going to run a

901
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: fourth car to Kumesado, but that has not been announced

902
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: yet either. How do we get to thirty three if

903
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 2: Prema runs Calamilot. There we are and we might be done.

904
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: Could they run both cars? I would think they'd be

905
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: interested in running Robert Schwartzman. Can they find enough quality

906
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: people to field two cars for May? You probably can.

907
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: I think it'd be easier to find enough people to

908
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: run two cars for the ND five hundred than to

909
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: go do Long Beach after missing the start of the

910
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: season and having a bare bones crew at this point,

911
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: If Proma is not involved at all, how do we

912
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: get to thirty three? Someone's running an extra car. My

913
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: best guess is hun Gohs Hollinger is running an extra car,

914
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: and is that maybe where Connor Daly comes into play there?

915
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: And could they run him in extra races or could

916
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: he just simply run for Dryer and Reinbould and then

917
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 2: run extra races for Hunkh's Hollinger and they hire someone

918
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: else for the five hundred. Keep an eye on Devlin

919
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: de Francesco. They've always been able to raise budget. I

920
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: haven't seen Devlin's not doing sports car racing right now.

921
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: Devlin is actually coaching for Jay Howard driver development in

922
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: USF two thousand and USF Pro two thousand and juniors,

923
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: so he will be at Saint Pete. He will be

924
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: at races, and I'm sure talking to people. I haven't

925
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: talked to Devlin or his dad since last season, but

926
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: I would think they'd be interested. I'd keep an eye

927
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: on Jacob Abel of doing something. They have a team,

928
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: they have a car, but it'd probably be better to

929
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: run it with another team. If they don't do it,

930
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: Foyd could be a candidate. Always wondered if Penske would

931
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 2: want Miles Row. I'll ask Miles when I see him

932
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: this weekend if there's been any conversation. I don't see

933
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: a path for an extra Honda. I think it needs

934
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: to be a Chevy. I don't think Anassi's gonna run

935
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: a fourth car. It would be for a special opportunity,

936
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 2: and I don't know who that is. Unless Premer runs

937
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: thirty four, I think runs two. I think we're gonna

938
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: have thirty three.

939
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: I agree with all that. I don't think it'll get

940
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: to Foight needing an extra one or Ganassi or Penske,

941
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: although I still think Miles Row could be that extra car.

942
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, that's what I got. We'll see what

943
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: we missed next. On track side, Hi, this is Poto

944
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: Award and you're listening to truck Side. Okay, what we

945
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: miss First a note that next week's show is back

946
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: to Tuesday night at seven o'clock Eastern time. One other thing,

947
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 2: we were chatting last week about when does the charter

948
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: for the manufacturers Honda and Chevy come into play. We

949
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 2: weren't sure about that. Read that it is twenty twenty

950
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: eight and pretty much you can stop submitting if you're

951
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: interested in the handa charter. It is going to Meyer Shank.

952
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: That's not been announced officially, but I saw quotes from

953
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 2: officials saying, yeah, teams like dale Coin Racing need not apply.

954
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 2: We're already headed down the path with Meyer Shanks. We'll

955
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: see who the Chevy option will be moving forward quick.

956
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: NASCAR thought one a shout out to some friends. The

957
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: Atlanta race is really, really good. It's been good the

958
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: last couple of years since they reconfigured. The truck race

959
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: was good on what was that Saturday afternoon? Kyle Busch one,

960
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: the Infinity race was excellent, so it was the Cup race.

961
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: But Adam Alexander has been a longtime friend. He's from Indianapolis.

962
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: He nailed the final call of that race. And the

963
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 2: two people calling the shots in the truck both worked

964
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: with this NBC. Roger Vincent also is lived in Indianapolis

965
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: for a long time. I think rogers from the India area.

966
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: He's the director and billib Combs is the producer. He

967
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: was our pit producer at NBC the last two or

968
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 2: three years for IndyCar. He's one of these rising stars

969
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: in motorsports production. They were all great. That was fun.

970
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: Happy to see Sheldon Creed win that race. The Cup

971
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: race was really good as well. I think they found

972
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: something Michael Jordan can kind of help promote the sport

973
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, so they are two for two

974
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: and we'll ready for the truck race on Saturday for

975
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: my son Jackson. We have no idea what to expect,

976
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: you know. I think what I would caution everyone about

977
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: that there is a bigger disparity from the top teams

978
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: in NASCAR than there are an IndyCar. So it's a

979
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: top twenty five is solid, a top twenty is a

980
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 2: good day, a top fifteen is a win. Measured expectations

981
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: for the first time he drives the stock car and

982
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: we'll hope for the best. We'll see you next Tuesday.

983
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: Can't wait for the IndyCar Weekend from Saint Pete