1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 2: The Republican Indie Star columnist has come out with the 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: piece in which he says he thinks redistricting is going down. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: He says he. 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: Expects senators are going to vote it down tomorrow. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: Could We'll get to that in a second, But first look, 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: I think there's some serious fraud going on in our 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: government case and we got to discuss it real quick, 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: you think, okay, so, and the fraud is that these 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: photos that they're posting of these lawmakers look nothing like 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: they look when you see them in Brazil. 12 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 4: What's going on? Are they just old photos? 13 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: I don't know Picasso got a hold of them or what. 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: But so I saw this photo Jacob Sewart and he 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: starts his column coming out and he has this photo 16 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: of Rod Bray, he's the protim of the Senate. And 17 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: I saw it and I was like, who's the little 18 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: old man in his photo? And it's I assumed Knownice. 19 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Holy smokes, that's Rod Bray. You look at Rod Bray's 20 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: official portrait and I don't know if that was because 21 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: it was taken during the Reagan administration or what, but 22 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: it's this like, young, dark haired guy, you know, greats. 23 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: It looks like he could be a movie star. And 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: then I'm compared to that, to what I just saw 25 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: in this photo of him. I guess this is on 26 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: the Senate floor, glasses, hair mop down, much older, look 27 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: kicking than in that photo. 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 4: Little salt and pepper going on. 29 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: Well, I think it went just straight to whatever's the 30 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: greatest thing you can think of. But then it's like 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: it Liz Brown, that wacky senator from Fort Wayne. 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: She's the same way. 33 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: She looks like droopy dog in person, and her photo 34 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: she looks like Marilyn Monroe. 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: I've noticed that whenever Andy stars doing an article these days, 36 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 3: they like to use pictures from the property Tak's rally. 37 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: At least we did something for someone with that. 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: But my point is, whether it's Liz Brown or Bray, 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: you gotta look the way you look. You should have 40 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: to take a current photo every year and put it 41 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: up there so I know what's going on. 42 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: Okay, now they know? 43 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Or Lodd photo? Please? Uh getting away with this? 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: Look at how young and vibrant I am, and then 45 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: you see it at person, You're like, WHOA. 46 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: Well, I have to imagine this redistricting conversations, taking a 47 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 3: lot out of them it's a fight. 48 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's a fight. 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: They didn't want they were having to address something, but 50 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: they did didn't want to talk. 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: Well, not all of them. 52 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: Well I would agree a guy like Rodbry, but look, 53 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: if you want to stign doing pro tim of the Senate, 54 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: he's arguing with the second most powerful person in the 55 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: state with you know what is the thing with great 56 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: power comes great ability, psibility to screw everyone over, or 57 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: whatever that's saying is you know what you're getting into 58 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: these people like Liz Brown. She's not doing this because 59 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: she she loves Donald Trump. She's doing this because she 60 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: has a valid primary challenge up in Fort Wayne. She's 61 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: pissed off Rokita, she's pissed off Jim Banks. They're coming 62 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: at her with everything they have, and she knows she's 63 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: about to go down, and so she's smooching as much 64 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: Trump butt cheek as she possibly can, trying to get 65 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: people to think she is something she's not, which is 66 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: a conservative. 67 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: Well, and her fight with the Attorney General Todd Rokita 68 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: is continuing because she introduced an other immigration bill and 69 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: he's saying, hello, we had a stronger bill before, and 70 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: you shut that one down. 71 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: It's not good. 72 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: And by the way, look and we'll get to this, 73 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: Jacob Stewart call him an indie star here in just 74 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: a second. I think it's interesting. He's a Republican. He 75 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: worked for these guys in the Senate not all that 76 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: long ago. But Todd Rokeeda, if this fails, will be 77 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: the big winner out of this, because look, Todd Rokeita 78 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: has avoided for decades a real job like the plague. 79 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: He's not going to just not be Attorney General and 80 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: go do something productive for society. So he is always 81 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: on the looking forward to his next political endeavor. And 82 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: if indeed this goes down, Brawn's two signature issues, property 83 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: taxes and now redistricting, will have failed miserably. 84 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: He might as well just pack it up. 85 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: Obviously, Micah Beckwith won't be able to get elected dog 86 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: catcher going forward. And so now that you're going to 87 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: create a giant void in the Republican Party. And unless 88 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: someone like Jim Banks decides that he wants to leave 89 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: Wash to know, he wants to be president and he's 90 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: on the on the trajectory and Senate leadership. So unless 91 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: somebody like that wants to run for governor, Todd Roketa 92 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: becomes sort of the different acto. Yeah, I think the 93 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: early leader in the clubhouse. If you're going to start 94 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: naming names of people that are next up, because it 95 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: ain't going to be brawn. 96 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people in the Republican Party like 97 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: Todd Roketa. 98 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 4: They view him as a fighter. 99 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: If you're into people who talk a lot and don't 100 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: accomplish much, Todd Rokeita is your guy. In fact, he 101 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: should put that on a sign. Talks a lot, doesn't 102 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: accomplish much. Anyway, there is a call him out in 103 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: Indie Star old pal friend of the show, Jacob Stewart 104 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: now Jacob though he does work for the Star, he 105 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: is a Republican. He worked for the Republicans in the 106 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: Senate before he came over to join the Indie Star. 107 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: And so what we're about to talk about you campin on. 108 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Well that's the leftist Star. Right, always said, Ah, those 109 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: left he's in the Star headline. 110 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: Oh they hired one. 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: Well right, I mean, look, here's what I've always said 112 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: about about the Star. 113 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: Their reporting is great. 114 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: They do Caleb Dwyer, Haley, Colombo Briggs when he gets 115 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: involved with them, they're reporting They do so much good 116 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: reporting over there, and everybody should be cheering. 117 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: Because people are like, how could you be friends with 118 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: those people at the Star. 119 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: I'm friends with lots of people in the media I 120 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: don't agree with politically, because we need as many eyeballs 121 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: on our state House and on these governments across Central 122 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: Indiana as we possibly can have because. 123 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: They're all screwing. 124 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: That's where they're a Democrat Republican and we should be 125 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: cheering for a robust, successful Indianapolis Star because they are 126 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: still the paper of record in this city. 127 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: They're straight reporting is. 128 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: Excellent and look, we should be able to read people 129 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: politically we disagree with in opinion pieces and not have 130 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: any heurism over it. 131 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 3: Right. 132 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: Should you be able to see words on a paper 133 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 2: you don't agree with them, go okay, that's interesting. Didn't 134 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: think of it that way. Even if you think the 135 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: person's clinically insane, you should be able to read it 136 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: and process it and make you better. 137 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: For some people case they can't do it, No, sometimes 138 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 4: they can't. 139 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: One of the main points in this article from Jacob 140 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: Stewart is that he said that senators resent being pushed 141 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: around when it comes to this redistricting. 142 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: Yes. 143 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: So the title of the article is why the Senate 144 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: will likely reject earlier redistricting, and he believes it'll be close, 145 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: but he believes it's going to go down by a 146 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: vote or two. And he walks through having worked in 147 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: the Senate and having an understanding of how these people operate, 148 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: the mistakes that the YES people are making. And he 149 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: had reached out to me yesterday and he said, hey, 150 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: you know, you just dealt with these guys on an 151 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: issue and it didn't go your way. Can you offer 152 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: some commentary on it? And you know what I basically 153 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: told in fact here, I'll just I'm in the article, 154 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: I'll read the quote. 155 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 4: You're going to quote yourself. 156 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to quote myself. I'll do my narrator voice 157 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: and then quote myself up. Okay, just set it up 158 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: for Shalli. 159 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a repeat of the fight over property tax 160 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: cuts earlier this year, said Rob Kendall, a conservative radio 161 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: host who led the grassroots charge on that issue. 162 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Quote. 163 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: Where we screwed up with property taxes is we had 164 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of people behind us, but not enough 165 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: targeted in each district. We couldn't overcome the power of 166 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: the local city officials or school districts. Kendall told me 167 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: the redistricting people are making the same mistake, except a 168 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: lot of their most vocal supporters don't even live in 169 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: the state. And I think in hindsight, and we talked 170 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: about this on State House Happenings today, Merit and Abdul 171 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: and I did is we trusted Braun. I trusted Braun. 172 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: The mistake that I made in hindsight was I listened 173 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: to them because they told me from all the way 174 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: back in the summer at twenty four when they were 175 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: begging for my endorsement, we got this. We need your help, 176 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: but we got this. We're gonna have this pack and 177 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: we're going to bring all this money in and we'll 178 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: tell you what we need and you just do it. 179 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: And we got this. 180 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: So at all the points I was reaching out to them, 181 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: going a great example state of the state. Remember when 182 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: we had those hundreds and hundreds of people send us 183 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: their property tax bills. 184 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: We took a lot of calls. 185 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we put that in. That was at therapy heest. 186 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: They said, give us some real people, some real numbers. 187 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: We can bring data points. 188 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: This is why I'm so mad at Braun. I we 189 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: did everything times ten. We were asked to do it. 190 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: In every turn, I was like, what else do you need? 191 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: What else can we do? Hey, shouldn't we be doing this? 192 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: Nah? 193 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Man, We got it. 194 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: It's good, we got it under control, when in hindsight, 195 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: what we should have done is totally bypassed Braun because 196 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: the lawmakers don't like him, they don't respect him. 197 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: They don't like or respect. 198 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: Josh Kelly, his chief of staff, which is maybe the 199 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: biggest problem that Braun has. They certainly can't stand Micah 200 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: and think he's a complete joke and a goof. 201 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: And we didn't realize any of this. 202 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: Right, we should have gone directly to these senators. We 203 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: should have targeted them directly. Hey, in this area, who 204 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: are the influential people that would be behind us. Who 205 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: are the people that we can send in there to 206 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: fight against the school corporations and the city governments. The 207 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: mistake we made is, Hey, yeah, tens of thousands of 208 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: people are calling them and emailing and whatever, but if 209 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: they're not in their district, they don't care. 210 00:08:58,559 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: Right. 211 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: I spent many many hours sitting there getting all those 212 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: phone calls, writing all the numbers and names down and 213 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: the property tax bill increase, and then typed it all 214 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: up nicely and then turned it over to the Brawn administration. 215 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: So the mistake that the Yes pep won a many 216 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: that they're making is that at least ours were all 217 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: people who lived in Indiana. It's people who are hoosiers, 218 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: right right, It was all people that are paying. 219 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: The property tax. 220 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: The Yes people, their biggest supporters, their biggest Internet bullies, influencers, whatever, 221 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: are often people who don't even live in this state. 222 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: Right. 223 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: And that's another point that Jacob Stewart made in his 224 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: article is that there's a lot of distrust from the 225 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: outside lobbyists that are driving the effort. 226 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if I had it to do all 227 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: over agincause I remember this is I mean, obviously we 228 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: saw what a liar Micah became. I remember having a 229 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: conversation with Micah when that bill got introduced, and it 230 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 2: was like, you're looking like you're not sure which in 231 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: the Senate I'm talking about When the initial property tax 232 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: bill got released in the Senate and I called Mike 233 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, let me talk to so 234 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: and so, I know we don't agree on a lot, 235 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: but everybody's singing the same tune about property tax reform, 236 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: organizing me a meeting with this guy. We can sit 237 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: down with them, we can agree on this thing, and 238 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: then go our merry way. 239 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: Well they got this. 240 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: Man, they don't they You know, we don't want to 241 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: rock the boat. If you're seen in there with them, 242 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: that they might. And you realized they weren't doing anything. 243 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: They weren't doing anything with this, And in hindsight, what 244 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: we should have done is taken the power players in 245 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: the legislature of themselves, the tippy top people and sort 246 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: of those influencers, and said, let's focus all of our 247 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: effort on these people because they will ultimately be the deciders. 248 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: And so all those emails you sent, all those phone 249 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: calls you made to those people on the on the 250 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 2: committee that heard the original property tax bill if it 251 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: didn't have the right zip code, they just wiped their 252 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: butt cheeks with them. 253 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: They don't care because they think this person's not voting 254 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 4: for me. 255 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: Exactly doesn't matter what the so the local school districts, Well. 256 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: That's what Greg Good did though when he had that 257 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: town hall he said, you have to live in my 258 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: district and then. 259 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: Even though it's seventy to zero, he's like, I'm still undecided. 260 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: M that's neither here nor there. My point is, when 261 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: you want to pass something big as it relates to 262 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: Indiana politics and government and it's controversial, the blueprint is 263 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: in front of you. Now going forward, both on our 264 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: experience and now with these yes people who clearly are 265 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 2: nothing from you have to meet these senators where they're at, 266 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: and you have to meet them in their own cities, 267 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: in their own towns, with people that it can actually 268 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: move them. If you can't do that, If you can't, 269 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: and it's a big ask, right, it's a big lift. 270 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: But if you can't organize to do that, you might 271 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: as well pack it up because they're just going to 272 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: default to whatever the party leadership position is because that's 273 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: the person that controls most of what they're able to. 274 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: Do in the Senate. 275 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 3: The caucus. 276 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Yes, the caucus. 277 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 278 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: Look, you your personal time is your own business. But 279 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: I think it's a little weird you're scouring the obituaries. 280 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: The obituaries. A new study was done from legacy dot 281 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: com and they were trying to come up with the 282 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: answer to what makes a life well lived? And they 283 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: reviewed thirty eight million obituaries to try to find the answer. 284 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: Oh, wowlifting job, Hey, you should meet our new higher 285 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: eight Harold. 286 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: What's Harold's job? He has to scour all the obituaries. 287 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: He's going to read thirty eight million obituaries and well, 288 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: what he found is that your life he's a guy, right. 289 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: What he found is that pretty much your entire life, 290 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: which is on average about four thousand weeks, gets compressed 291 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: down into roughly one hundred and seventy five words. 292 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: That is interesting, isn't it. H Yeah, that is Yeah, 293 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: you're right. 294 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 3: The top words that were used how many weeks they say, 295 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: it's four thousand weeks. 296 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: Four thousand weeks and all of that time comes down 297 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: to h e seventy five words. 298 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty amazing. 299 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: The words that were mentioned the most in eighty percent 300 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: of obituaries were faithful and praying, Yeah, and benevolence and 301 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: caring for others was mentioned seventy six percent of the time. 302 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: And some of the other values that were a little 303 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: less emphasized but still mentioned in a lot of the 304 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: different obituaries were self direction and power. 305 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: You know, we talked about this at one point. This 306 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: has been a while ago, but we talked about how 307 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: once your two generations removed from living, very few people 308 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,599 Speaker 2: remember or talk about you, because it's any fault of 309 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 2: your own. But it's just like most people know their 310 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: parents and their grandparents, and then some are lucky and 311 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: know their great grandparents. But after those people are gone, right, 312 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: are the memories fade or whatever? Then you just become 313 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 2: like a picture on somebody's wall, because it just the 314 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: way the time works. Now, there are some you know, 315 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: of our greatest Americans, the George Washington's or Abraham Lincoln's 316 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: who get statues and are remembered in you know, infamy 317 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: for uh or or others that are remembered in infamy. 318 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: I should have said, like, well, my profile picture are 319 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: Benedict Arnold. But for the most part, people are really 320 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: a two are remembered no matter what you do on 321 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: this earth, for two or three generations, and then you 322 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: you disappear. And I remember this, and I like it's 323 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: so weird. And you obviously having an adult child now, 324 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: but like when I was a kid, my grandmother had 325 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: this really cool palm up. 326 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: In my room in her at her house. 327 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: And the crux of the poem was talking about at 328 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: the end of your life, the only thing that will 329 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: really matter, one of the few things that will matter, 330 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: is that you made a difference in a life of 331 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: a child, right because then that child becomes an adult 332 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: and they remember you. And it's like, I think of 333 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: the impact and how my grandparents lived up to that 334 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: they've been dead ten years. I so fondly remember just 335 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: everything about them and what they did for me and 336 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: what amazing people they were. And so by that statre, 337 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: my grandparents wore a resounding success because that's what they 338 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: desired to do. And I was thinking about this. Yesterday 339 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: we put the Christmas tree up. Yeah, and I said, okay, 340 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. 341 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: My dad came over. 342 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: We did it while while Liviya was at daycare, and 343 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: I said, okay, when she gets home, I'm going to 344 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: have it up and have the lights on and have 345 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: the ornaments up. And she comes in the house, she's 346 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: two and a half. She comes in the house and 347 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: she walks in the room and sees the tree and 348 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: she just stares at it in amazement and gets the 349 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: biggest smile on her face. And the whole night she 350 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: was spent in that room, tweet tweete, you know, just 351 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: and at. 352 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: One point she just looks at me. 353 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: She goes me like yeah, and it's like you look 354 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: at this going, this is life right, and you don't 355 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: You don't understand that until you experience and people can 356 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: tell you about it. 357 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: People tell you amazing having kids is. 358 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: People can tell you what a great joy it is 359 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: about how if you don't have kids, you know, and 360 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: some people tragically can't have kids, and that's no fault 361 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: of their own, but it just like that is life right, 362 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: Like all this other stuff we do. It's important, it's 363 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: a big deal. But what really matters in your life 364 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: is how you affect those who come after you who 365 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: are dependent upon you, because their better life will be 366 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: the lasting legacy. And then how they remember you to 367 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: others is the way that you live on and that 368 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: judges how you were on this earth. 369 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: When I had my daughter, When I growing up, I 370 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: always tell my mom, I love you, thank you for everything. 371 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: You know, You're wonderful. 372 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: But it wasn't until I had my own child, and 373 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: I can remember she was only three or four days old, 374 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: and I was writing thank you notes to the baby 375 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: gifts that we had received, and I wrote one to 376 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: my mom and I said, thank you. I never knew. Yeah, 377 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: like you don't realize it until you're in that position. 378 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that is interesting that you brought that 379 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: article up, because it's something that I'm working through and 380 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: like talking. Many times, I keep this daily journal for 381 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: my daughter, and sometimes it's hey, there are all sorts 382 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: of important things that happen. Some days it's just a 383 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: quick abc and sometimes if there's nothing big, I will 384 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: talk about like little life lessons or things that is 385 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: happening in the moment in our family, or things that 386 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: are happening around our family or in the world, and say, 387 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: here's what I hope you learn from this years from 388 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: now when you read these these journal entries, and what 389 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: you really realize. I mean, it's always in front of you, 390 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: right that your time is finite. It's not infinite, right, 391 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: But as you get you inter middle age and then 392 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: you have children, you really realize, like, two things you're 393 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: going to be kind of remembered for on this earth 394 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 2: are how you treated those you were responsible for, and 395 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: that could be not just your children, but as your parents' 396 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: age or you know, grandparents' age or whatever, how you 397 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: treated those people who were dependent upon you in the 398 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 2: life you were able to give them that they couldn't 399 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: give themselves. And the works that you do on this 400 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: earth side of your commitment to the Lord, but the 401 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: physical works that you do on this earth, and how 402 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: that helped people who couldn't necessarily help or speak for themselves. 403 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: So, among the thirty eight million obituaries that they reviewed, 404 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: there were some differences in gender. Men were remembered for achievement, power, 405 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: and conformity, and their values shifted with age. Women were 406 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 3: remembered for caring and pleasure, and their values stayed the 407 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: same over their lifetime. Some other themes that popped up 408 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: a lot were education, military service, family connections. Men's obituaries 409 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: were slightly longer than women's, and older people got a 410 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: more detailed ride up than younger people. 411 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: All Right, should we. 412 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: Talk about the you and I were moving? 413 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: Obviously it's the last it's the last day at WIBC. 414 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: We're cleaning out our offices. Should we talk about the 415 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: cleaning conundrum that I that I have you have? Yeah, 416 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: that I mean, well, I mean it's already been decided. 417 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: But you and I got in this conversation about what 418 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: to do with some of the. 419 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: Stuff, huh, that you've collected that I've collected over the years. 420 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, see what's Oh it was, Oh my gosh, it's 421 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: just stuff was everywhere, but there was a couple of 422 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: specific things. I thought this would be an interesting conversation 423 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: for our audience to engage in and see what they 424 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: think about it. 425 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: All right, it's Kendilly Casey, It's ninety three WYBC. 426 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: Left and I over the past. 427 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: Couple of days had it interesting. What what are you 428 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: laughing at? 429 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 3: I'm laughing at the song choice from Kevin Everything you 430 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: Own in the box to the left. 431 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: Kevin's did a great job to do with farewell songs 432 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: and losing your stuff and everything else. It is our 433 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: last day here at forty Monument Circle. What has been 434 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: twenty seven plus years agoing in twenty eight years, I 435 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: think they've been here at forty Monuments Circle. 436 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: So we're told, yeah, we're. 437 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: Told who knows right, it's it's radio, so who does? 438 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: But we're playing on me at the new studio tomorrow. 439 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: Obviously an end of an era for WIBC. The programming 440 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: is not gonna change, at least as far as we know. 441 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: They invited us. They invited us to the new building. 442 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 5: So uh. 443 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: But anyway, one of the things, and we mentioned this 444 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: before the past couple of weeks, they gave us a 445 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: drop dead data. You got to have all your stuff 446 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: out of your office by a certain period of time. 447 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: Now you had like three things in there, right, so 448 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: travel light It was very easy. Now me over the 449 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: nine years. 450 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: Fit in this industry for a while, rob By travel light. 451 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: Me because I've been here nine years. I and I 452 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: started doing this when I was with the Chicks. People 453 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: would just send us stuff, right, They would sort of 454 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: send them stuff and they would include me on it. 455 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: And so I was so honored that people would send 456 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: me stuff. I said, well, I'm I don't know any 457 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: actual working around here, so I don't need a desk 458 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: to work. I'm just going to create a spread of 459 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: museum of all the all the stuff that people have 460 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 2: sent me or given me. 461 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: And it was pretty cool. 462 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: I mean up until here a week ago, I had 463 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: it in full full force and it was a really cool, 464 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: like display of of all of this history. Yeah, I mean, 465 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: and then I always a picture of my family and 466 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: you know, my wife, my daughter, and and all these 467 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: other things out there and concert posters from things I've 468 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: gone to. And man, the one thing I hated I'm 469 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: gonna lose is that Inglorious Bastards poster. That was an 470 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: awesome poster. 471 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a cool one, keV. 472 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: You're an Glorious Bastards fan. I know. 473 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my favorite Tarantino movie. 474 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: It's the it was the the the the baseball bat 475 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: that the guy used and uh, and then it's got 476 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: the barber war with the blood coming off of it, 477 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: and it's it's got a Nazi helmet on it and 478 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: it said once upon a time in Nazi occupied France. 479 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: I hate that. I'm gonna lose that. But my wife, 480 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: she was like, you're not bringing all that stuff home 481 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: with you? 482 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 3: No, you're not. 483 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: I was like, well, what, guy, So you don't even 484 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: know much. I've been to your desk, I know. 485 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: So I was been trying to come with all this stuff. 486 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: Would you like to show like, I mean, this is 487 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: just a taking some of the very important stuff home 488 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: that I wanted to keep, stuff from my childhood, other 489 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: stuff that was very important to me. But like some 490 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: of the things, just to give another people idea of 491 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: a variety in hodgepodge. On the YouTube feed, you can 492 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: see this Casey holding up this retro ten seventy WIBC 493 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: mesh cap yep. I'm guessing that's probably from the eighties, 494 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: would be my guess, maybe the early nineties. 495 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: It's at one time it was white. 496 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: Time, it was a white it's a little cream color. 497 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: I love to keep all of this stuff. I just like, 498 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: there's just no room for it. Like I just my 499 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: wife give me very strict instructions. We cut a deal 500 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: in what I could bring up. Yes, Casey would look 501 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: great on you. 502 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: Okay, it actually kind of cute. 503 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: Well you can have it. 504 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: Okay. 505 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: Congratulations, it's a piece of radio memorabilia yours. You've got 506 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 2: what this hill? This is a this is a great one. 507 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: You know who gave me that? Chris Spangle, a friend 508 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: of the show, gave me that. It's a McAfee. John McAfee, 509 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: who is a complete nutbag, the guy who invented McAfee 510 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: anti virus software, ran for president on the Libertarian ticket 511 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. I was a huge McAfee fan because 512 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: he was a complete screwball, and I thought it was 513 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: great for politics. 514 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: That lifeless. 515 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a maca McAfee button. This Hillary Clinton mask 516 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: with the eyes out of it. 517 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: You can put it on. 518 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's actually photos of Casey with the mask on. 519 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: She's now putting it on the YouTube feed. 520 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: Well, they put the mask on and I stood next 521 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 3: to the life size cutout of Donald Trump. 522 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, kind of scary. 523 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: Speaking of Donald Trump, there's a little what would you 524 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: call this with some. 525 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: Sort of like stam sty but it's like a bust 526 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: and it says hey liberals, and he's giving a giant 527 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: middle finger. 528 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: And then on the other side it says, hey, media. 529 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: I still wish I could keep that. Yeah. 530 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 4: And then last I have a got a Trump. 531 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: No, it's a chicks on it. Well, it's Trump, but. 532 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty chicks on the right because conservatism needs a makeover. 533 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: What is that? That's what do they call those? Is 534 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: that a tumbler? 535 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's coffee tumbler. 536 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: It's actually really nice. 537 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: Rock you Well you can have it. I know you're 538 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: a big on the right fan before you got here. 539 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: So my point is like, there's just so much and 540 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: I collected all this stuff, and I loved how it 541 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: was displayed. 542 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: And so you know, I'm having to get rid of 543 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: all this stuff. What are we going to take give 544 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: it away at Radio Thon? 545 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 5: What are we? 546 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 547 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 3: And that said, we should take it all down to 548 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 3: Radiothon at Sullivan's with us on Friday. And if we 549 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 3: have any listeners that come by and we want. 550 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: Some of my stuff, yeah, okay, Well we'll. 551 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: Put it on a table and you could depict. 552 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: Okay. So I took some of the stuff home. 553 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: I gave a bunch of the photos, like to my 554 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: mom because she won a bunch of photos of Livy 555 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: that already had, so I didn't, you know, obviously need 556 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: two of them. And then I have this collection stuff 557 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 2: we're gonna take to Radiothon. And then there was this 558 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: one thing and you and I got in a conversation 559 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: about this, and I thought, well, this would be fascinating 560 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: to converse about on the air. So in my ensemblest stuff, 561 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: I mean we're talking hundreds of items, right. 562 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: Anybody who's seen this stuff? And I was thrown around. 563 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: I had Two years ago, I engaged in a social experiment, 564 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 2: uh huh with a lovely young lady, and she was 565 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: artist on the side, and she was phenomenally talented and 566 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: created many, many great pieces of art. 567 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: And I pretended to be interested in it, and. 568 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: She gave me two of these really cool pieces of 569 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: art that she did not Again, this is way before 570 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: I met my wife. This was years ago, and as 571 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 2: part of the ensemble stuff that I just kept over 572 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: the years, right that I just had. It was just 573 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: thrown in there, and you and I got any conversation 574 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: because they're really cool pieces of art, like they're very 575 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: well done. Yes, and I'm not even an art person. 576 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: I told you, I said, I can't bring that home, 577 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: can I? 578 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. You cannot bring that home, especially when 579 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 3: your wife has already told you you can't bring that 580 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: stuff home. She is talking about this bus from Donald 581 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: Trump of Donald Trump, or this WIBC baseball hat that 582 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: you'll never wear. She certainly does not want gifts from 583 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: an ex brought to her house. No, no, Rob, Well, it. 584 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: Wasn't like I had it because this person had any 585 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, meaning to me. I haven't heard this person 586 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: in years. It was just they were really cool pieces 587 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: of art, and I was like, I don't even get 588 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: rid of that do. I it's a cool piece of art. 589 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: I'll just leave it here. 590 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: On my desk. 591 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 3: You should have gotten rid of it. 592 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: Yes, it's like I stirred it every day and was like, oh, 593 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: that person meant so much to me. 594 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 4: I know. 595 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: They were just two pieces of art in a collection of. 596 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Many of things. 597 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 3: However, it was given to you from someone that you 598 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: had a past relationship, but from years ago. Huh but 599 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: from years ago, so you don't believe you. 600 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: So I could assure you it was But so you 601 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: said I have to get rid of it. 602 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 603 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I hate to throw this away 604 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: because it's very well done. 605 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: I know you want to hold on to it so 606 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 3: bad because of your love for the art. 607 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: And so the most eclectic person I know is Kevin. 608 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: So I gifted them to Kevin. 609 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: Oh so now Kevin can have your ex girlfriend's art work. 610 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: Girlfriend's a strong word. 611 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I acquiesced the pieces. You probably couldn't tell, 612 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 5: but I was nearly brought to tears and how we're 613 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 5: fined those. 614 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: Really good Yes, thank you, they're really good numbers. 615 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: It's not that good. 616 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: You guys are acting like this is like a renoir 617 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: or something. 618 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with the art? Are you 619 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: taking it home? Do you have a desk at the 620 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: cylinder file? 621 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 5: So I actually have, so I have that cubby above 622 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 5: my desk. I've got it in there for now. Yeah, 623 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna bring it home at some point. Okay, 624 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,239 Speaker 5: probably hang it up, probably reframe it. 625 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 4: We don't. 626 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: We don't have any like desk at the new place. 627 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: That's part of why I get rid of all this stuff, right, 628 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: like and and and there's like you get a locker. 629 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna put in a lot, but 630 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: you have a desk. 631 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: Put some artwork in a locker. See if you can 632 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 4: hold on to it. 633 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: You have a you have a desk, right, I'll have 634 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 5: the little production studio. I mean, I have a desk here, 635 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 5: but obviously, but at the new place, I don't think 636 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 5: i'll have an actual desk. 637 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: We have nothing at the new place. They're like, it's 638 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: gonna be so great. I was like, great, for who 639 00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: I have nothing there. 640 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: I have all sorts of cool stuff here, all of 641 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: these things that people have given me over the years, 642 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: and now I have to get rid of all of it. 643 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 3: Well, right now, you're going to give it to somebody 644 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: who wants it at radio thoughts on Friday, some. 645 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: Lucky Should we give it in a group or should 646 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: we like some grand prize winner, like if you give 647 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: a certain amount of money, that we give you all. 648 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 3: Of robst I think we should just have a table 649 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: and let people pick through your emotions. 650 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: If they've won something, they. 651 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: Can have it. Since you've held on to these things 652 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: for so many of. 653 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: You, gotta admit, though you had to see this every 654 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: single day. That was a really cool the way I 655 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: had it all put out there. I mean, it was 656 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: a really. 657 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: Have everything displayed nicely. It was a real question were 658 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: these gifts all purely sentimental? 659 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: What was going on here? What was the attachment with 660 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 4: the art? Org? 661 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: I love our audience. 662 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 2: That's why I kept no, I said, the artwork. I 663 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: kept it the same way kept everything else people had 664 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: sent to me. Right like, I don't like, I don't 665 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: like again. I feel like you're hearing in your advance 666 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: stage and I get look sixty three is not as 667 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: young as you used to be. 668 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 669 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, just like with everything else, it 670 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: was all part of an on. 671 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 3: It was piled up. 672 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: Was the collection? 673 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I got you, so keV, You're welcome. Thank you, 674 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: Merry early Christmas. 675 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: Thank you. 676 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, these these pieces are Rembrandt esque, so I really 677 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 5: I really love it. 678 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: Right all right, Hammer's next. 679 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: It's Kenderlly Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 680 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: Quote from Jason Allen Hammer Casey looks like the hottest 681 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: lot lizard ever. 682 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: I'm wearing the WYBC trucker hat. 683 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 6: That looks like something Big John Gillis would have had 684 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 6: on back in the day right there. 685 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 4: Like it's a little. 686 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 6: Faded white hat and the net background, the bills a 687 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 6: little dirty like that bad boy has probably been worn 688 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 6: by Big John Gillis and Tom Severina. 689 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: I didn't even look to see if it's stained on 690 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 3: the inside. Let me check, Oh there's a ring. No, No, 691 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: nobody was wearing makeup. Who had this on? 692 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: Now? I believe it changed that right now? 693 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: I bet it wasn't, because I believe I got that 694 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: from my dear friend John Raybold, who is a Indianapolis, 695 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: Indiana music historian. His house is basically a tribute museum 696 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: to Indiana radio, and I believe he gave that to 697 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: me at one point, So I would bet it's in 698 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: pretty tiptop shape. 699 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 6: It says, we're kind of going down this little trip 700 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 6: down nostalgia lane here. Can I just say the one 701 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 6: thing that I miss And I get why they changed it, 702 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 6: But a number of years ago, when we went away 703 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 6: from that awesome Top of the Hour iconic do, they 704 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 6: tried to make it more modern. 705 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: I get it. 706 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 6: They didn't want WBC to sound like the old guy station. 707 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: But man, I missed that. Like when you hear that Top. 708 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 6: Of the Hour, you know Radio Indiana, Dude, the hair 709 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 6: on your arm stands up. 710 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: That was so good. 711 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 3: Well I would say you should go find it and 712 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: play it today, But well that system's broken. 713 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: We have no archives, there's nothing left. It's all over. 714 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: So I'm curious to get your perspective on this last segment. 715 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: Casey and I were talking about, you know, I had 716 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: that fabulous collection of stuff. 717 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: On my desk. 718 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: It was just just a pile of stuff that people 719 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: had given me and whatever over the years, listeners, whatever. 720 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: And one of the things that Casey said I could 721 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: not I could not take with me. I had to 722 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: get rid of is years ago, well before I met 723 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: my wife, a person I was engaged in a social 724 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: experiment with gave me two pieces of art. That's what 725 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: she did for her, Like hobby was art, and so 726 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: I just had it and kept it with me, and 727 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: it was and there was a good cool piece of 728 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: art because like, oh, I want to see that person 729 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: or be around. There's just two cool pieces of art 730 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: that fit the hodgepods of stuff that I had on 731 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: the you know, in the ensemble in my office. And 732 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: Casey said, absolutely not. You can't take that home, even 733 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: if you really like the piece of art. And I said, 734 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: I guarantee Hammer will say I could take that home. 735 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm missing some context here. 736 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: Were you dating the artist? Did you hook Upeah? 737 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like I was a you know okay, 738 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: you said like social experiences. 739 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: For a family orient appropriate to me, Like I'm an 740 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: actual guy. 741 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 6: For five seconds here you were banging this chick that 742 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 6: did art you wanted to hear to take it home? 743 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: Is that what we're talking about? 744 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 6: Can you just be a human for five seconds to 745 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 6: dork because of this, you know what, go ahead and. 746 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: Take it home. Take it home. I hope you tick 747 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: off your wife. I gave it to Kevin. I give 748 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: it to Kevin. How was the art, Kevin? Was it 749 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: like tasteful? 750 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: It's very tasteful. 751 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: What is the art like? 752 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 4: What is it? 753 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 6: There's one that's. 754 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 5: Like a collage and it's got different public figures mixed 755 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 5: in there. 756 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: It's a painting of the sun, like an artistic painting 757 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: of the sun. Yeah. I mean it's really good stuff. 758 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: So let me go to Casey. 759 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 6: Then let's say that one of Rob's exes had an 760 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 6: actual copy of the Declaration of Independence. It's worth a 761 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 6: bunch of money. Is you're not allowed to take that 762 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 6: home either? 763 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: Well that's different. No it's not. 764 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: It's the same theory. 765 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: No, that's that's something historical for the country he's talking about. 766 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 6: Your argument is that it came from this woman, so 767 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 6: you can't take it home. 768 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: I think he's got you, keV. Can I have the 769 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: art back? 770 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 3: I would say, well, yeah, you did, you got. 771 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 6: I said, the art becomes irrelevant in your argument because 772 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 6: it's about who made it. 773 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about the emotional attachment that he has. 774 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: To have no emotional attachment to it. 775 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: I just like, because it was a cool looking piece 776 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: of art, I could ever set her out thought, Oh 777 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: this makes me think of whatever. It's just like if 778 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: a guy off the street had given it to me, 779 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: I would have felt the same way about it. 780 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: It's just a cool heart. 781 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 6: Yes, you look at all the crap I had in there. 782 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: Look way you're wearing. 783 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 6: On the top of your head casey, what happened to 784 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 6: my courtroom sketches? I gave them to you. 785 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: I did have them until yesterday, and then I very 786 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: clearly asked you, uh, do you want these courtroom sketches 787 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: of Gabe of Gabe Whitley and that she'll. 788 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 4: Allow him to take home. 789 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: No. 790 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: She specifically said, don't be bringing any of your crap home. 791 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: We don't have any room for it. 792 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it's gonna be interesting where we uh set 793 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 6: up shop tomorrow if that's when we start. 794 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: Are you bringing anything home with you? 795 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: What do you so? 796 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 6: I brought like picture Brews, you know, the pictures and 797 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 6: the booze. The booze is sponsored, by the way, by 798 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 6: our good friends and Thompson Furniture. 799 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 4: Mattress, so it has to come over. 800 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 801 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 6: So I think what we're gonna do is take the 802 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 6: fridge that we have, put it in the air studio, 803 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 6: but put a lock on it. Oh yeah, So that 804 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 6: way those no good weekend bums can stay out of it, 805 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 6: and poor people like Rob can stay out of it too. 806 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. 807 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 2: I do love that at Duels, to its credit, has 808 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: uh cleaned almost his entire office out. I don't know 809 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: how many storage lockers he ended up getting for all 810 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 2: of those comic books. Dude, it went from like embarrassing 811 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 2: to just bad, like it's not good yet. 812 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: It's not good yet. 813 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 6: No, like anybody else would say, oh my god, clean 814 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 6: this office. But compared to what it was before, hey, 815 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 6: he cleaned it up pretty good. 816 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: It was a Hoarders episode. 817 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 3: You know why, because his wife said, don't bring head stuff. 818 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: He kept it at work. What are you doing this afternoon? 819 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: What's going on? 820 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 6: So if it's the final show in this building, we'll 821 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 6: take a little trip down memory lane. I don't know 822 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 6: if it is or not. If and then uh, we've 823 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 6: got Tony Kennett calling in and we're counting down. I 824 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 6: guess it's twas the night before the redistrict choice. We'll 825 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 6: find out what the what the temperature is? 826 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 3: All right, thank you hammer. It is Kendally Casey on 827 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 3: ninety three w y b C. 828 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: You me good