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Speaker 1: in the Mahomes era. Eddie, we had Nate Taylor. Well,

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Speaker 1: Nate Taylor. First off, I should say, hi, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Well clearly you saw my brain there wasn't

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Speaker 2: You know, we've had Max Bowen, you know appearances the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish we do need to do a helmet

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Speaker 1: How do you why are you saying that? Shouldn't you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's not I mean, go ahead and

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Speaker 1: not gotten longer in the recent weeks. Sometimes when you

431
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Speaker 1: see the sack numbers climb, you're holding on the ball

432
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 1: a little bit too long. But Joel mentioned it's actually

433
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: pretty similar, if not a little quicker, So bwolve sacks

434
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: of two weeks, and yet you're getting rid of the

435
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: ball as quick as you normally do, or quicker. That

436
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: means the passwords is getting there even faster. So again,

437
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: these are all questions that I think are very fair.

438
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: Are the blitz numbers up or did the Steelers and

439
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 2: the Falcons just say if it we're.

440
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: Going to bring I would I don't know that. But

441
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 1: the handle, I just feel like the edge has just

442
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: not the edge. Pass rush against the Colts offensive sackles

443
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: has been a thorough domination in the last two games.

444
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it. Watt high Smith, Pierce Walker,

445
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: those guys. Now again, Kansas City, I don't think on

446
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: paper has that, but Kansas City they will.

447
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: Dial it up.

448
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: And so you know, maybe it's more of sheer numbers.

449
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 2: And that's what makes bag Spagnola is like, he likes

450
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 2: to blitz, and he likes to hide it, and he

451
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: likes to come from where you don't expect it.

452
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter called him the blitz Architect earlier this week.

453
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: He never lets you be comfortable. Places press and blitzes.

454
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: So this gets back into our Daniel Jones conversation that

455
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: maybe we had last Thursday. Eddie of go back to

456
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: the baseball card analogy with Daniel Jones. The back of

457
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: the baseball card walking to Indy said this man wilts

458
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: under pressure. I mean pass rush, pressure, blitzing, etcetera, etcetera.

459
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: The first eight game said, screw that baseball card. This

460
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: is the new one. This is the Colt's uniform one.

461
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: Did you get the pikachuu that has the holographic on it.

462
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: Cond Pikachu's common holographics. I don't know. Were you a

463
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: Pokemon guy?

464
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: No?

465
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: Really, just me maybe in his party?

466
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, well leave me out on the island

467
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: yo yo, oh yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I I

468
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: never got into it, but I was probably more intimidated.

469
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 2: Bout you and Babe Blades. That was my thing.

470
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: Okay, I got a ounce of intimidation just hearing that

471
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: out loud. So what Jones is real? Colts uniform? First

472
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: eight games, last two games?

473
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: Is it in the middle? Is it in the middle?

474
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: Are we to the point of the season where everyone's

475
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: watched film on them and now there is a little

476
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: bit of a blueprint? Now again, the blueprints easier said

477
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: than done. You still got to stop number twenty eight,

478
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: which good luck. But you know here in the next

479
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: month you're going to face three of the top six

480
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: scoring defenses.

481
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: Could the screen game become more of the something that

482
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: they do more to kind of count?

483
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we utralize the pass rush a little bit,

484
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: you know again, identifying the hots, finding the hots a

485
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: little bit more. Yeah, the screen game, you know again,

486
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 1: do you get in a little bit more of an

487
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: RPO and Jones's legs become we still had against Atlanda.

488
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: Those more I think scramble related than anything. But I

489
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: think those are all questions that you have, So I

490
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: think for the most part, Eddy that kind of covers

491
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: everything Colts Chiefs related. For me. I believe Xavier Worthy

492
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: dealing with an ankle injury, so it'll be something just

493
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: to monitor as week moves along. Their left guard got

494
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: concussed in the game, so it looks like he'll be out.

495
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: And we got Nanson Romo. Are you a Romo guy?

496
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't really watched much Roma in

497
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: the last year or two.

498
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, Yeah, I haven't. I believe it's the

499
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: first time he's called the game since.

500
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: It might be the first Colts game he's had, right.

501
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: Well, I think he had Colts Chiefs back on that.

502
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 2: Oh yeah maybe.

503
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean they just might as well get a time

504
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: share in Kansas City. I don't know if that would

505
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: go for anything in the off season, but I hope

506
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: they have the power light district.

507
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Isn't that a thing? You have been to Kansas City? Yeah? Yes,

508
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. It was Okay, I wasn't there long. I

509
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: was there for a basketball game. So I was there

510
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: for like maybe one, maybe two.

511
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: We'll be just interested with that atmosphere is I think

512
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: it's an outstanding atmosphere. I think it's one of the

513
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: best in the league. But like, does it get any uneasiness?

514
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: You know?

515
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: Is there any just like, oh, leap, we're not used

516
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: to the tailgating like this, but we're not used to

517
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: five and five. We're not you know, this is just different.

518
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: To Indiana tizes, by the way, or three Indiana ties

519
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: on the defense for Kansas City. George carloftis Purdue. I

520
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: went to West Lafayette High School, right, Kevin, I have

521
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: that right m And then Drew Tranquil from Fort Wayne?

522
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: Is it Carrol for him?

523
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: Yes? Fort Wayne Carroll. And then Jerry Tillery, yes.

524
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: Dame well Notre Dame for Tranquil as well. I loved

525
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: him in Notre Dame thought through so many injuries, trink

526
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: Will yes, and then Robert Tanya. I believe they're tight

527
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: end and being a state product. Shout out to the Trees.

528
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: I forgot about to the fighting Bruce Bowenes over there

529
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: in entire hate so Robert Tunyan, Yeah, they've had a

530
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: few of those all right, you got anything else? Or

531
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: should we get into twitter questions?

532
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: We will get into Twitter questions, starting with Craig, what

533
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: is the plan for Anthony Richardson next year? It would

534
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: be it would seem, given Daniel jones history of health issues,

535
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be prudent to have him as a quality

536
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: backup just in case? In addition, he would still be

537
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: on a reduced salary. If he plays and plays well,

538
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: that would only increase his trade value. If Daniel Jones

539
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: continues to perform, it seems like a good value backup quarterback.

540
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: But I feel people are already assuming he gets traded

541
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: in the off season for a fourth or a fifth.

542
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Well, I guess let's live in a dose of reality

543
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: for a second, Craig. How many fourth overall picks are

544
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: content being a bad a.

545
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: Year four of their NFL career? Yeah? Fair? None? Right, Well,

546
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: nobody frankly in the NFL is okay with being a backup.

547
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, You see how much money

548
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: of these backups make? If you call my name two

549
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: hundred and forty eighth and I can hold the Microsoft

550
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 1: clipboard and call me a account or call me a

551
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: Burssett or call me a whoever sign me up.

552
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have the dog in me.

553
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: I want to play. I just I just want to

554
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: hold the Microsoft surface. Get the little earpiece in there.

555
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: Look great, look clean, soft? Yeah, I mean what do

556
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: you do? Do you keep them? Well? The contract be Eddie,

557
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: doesn't you're you're four millionar? Don't you go up a little?

558
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: I think it's ten million.

559
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: Isn't that much? I was gonna guess eight or nine.

560
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: Man, And with the upcoming contracts. That's why I feel

561
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: like people are also assuming that they'll end up trading

562
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: him if they really do like Riley Leonard and believe

563
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: he can be a quality or competent quality backup. Then

564
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: you trade Richardson for a draft pick, and it helps

565
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: save you a little salary so you can retain Alec Pierce,

566
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 2: you can retain Daniel Jones with the addition of Sauce Gardner.

567
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: Well, you obviously declined the fifth year option. Yeah, I

568
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: I I don't know.

569
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: It's almost eleven ten point eight a lot. I don't know.

570
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: Does it become a distraction at all?

571
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: I just.

572
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: I understand where Craig's coming from.

573
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 2: I do.

574
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: I think there's still some intrigue or curiosity for the Colts,

575
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: of course there is, but like man, it's tough to

576
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: keep your backup quarterback on a on a quality.

577
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: College team these days.

578
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Let alone again the fourth overall pick that's been benched

579
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: what two three times now, can't stay healthy and all

580
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: this stuff. So I still think, you know, late day two,

581
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: early day three pick would be my best assumption here.

582
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I was never one that thought Richard's

583
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: was a legit trade guy, even pre I injury, like

584
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: here before the deadline. I just I do think the Colts,

585
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: you know again, have some curiosity, but at some point.

586
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: Enough, Yeah, if they do trade him, it doesn't matter

587
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: if it's before June first or after June first, The

588
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: numbers don't differ. Five point four million is what they

589
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: would save.

590
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: How much him making this year?

591
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is making nine points two?

592
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: So how did it go? Do you have the whope

593
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: full rookie deal? What did it start.

594
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: As six point one? Then it went to seven point seven,

595
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: nine point two, ten point eight, four years, thirty three

596
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: point nine million.

597
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: I guess that's the fourth overall pick. You start off

598
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: making pretty good money?

599
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, JJ, not JJ Watt. JT's reputation had been

600
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: that pass blocking receiving weren't strengths. This year, he's been

601
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: terrific with both, especially past catching. What changed Kevin My

602
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: thoughts on this is the fact that I always thought

603
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: JT was good in the screen game and has a checkdown.

604
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: But when you ask him to start like running routes

605
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: like Abijon Robinson or Christian McCaffrey, that's where JT gets

606
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: in trouble in pass catching. And I feel like we've

607
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: seen less of that and more of helping out in

608
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: past protection with chipping and just being as the dumpoff guy.

609
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: Now it hasn't been perfect perfect. I thought Atlanto was

610
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: one of his poor games in protection. To be honest

611
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: with you, I continue to go back to what probably

612
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: sounds like a boring answer when it comes to Taylor

613
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: and why this year is he doing this? And how

614
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: historic he's been and the numbers continue to be beyond astonishing.

615
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: He's healthy, I mean he is healthy. Like you know,

616
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: every day has a scan the practice field looking for

617
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: guys that are practicing. There's twenty eight and you know, again,

618
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: how many running backs now twelve weeks into a season

619
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: have yet to even pop up on the injury report,

620
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: and this goes back to the spring. So I just

621
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: think having a full commitment, mean, Taylor's always been a

622
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: ballue chip worker, blue chip worker. When Wisconsin would have

623
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: the road games and he'd run for two hundred, that

624
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: dude came back and he'd ice baf it up right

625
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: sprinting to you know whatever, downtown Madison for the first party.

626
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: So I think there's a full commitment in an offseason

627
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: to fine tunes of things and not rehab mm hmm.

628
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: And I think that's really helped him there. So again

629
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: it's not perfect perfect, but certainly he has taken sub strider.

630
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: By the way, Chris Widlick, I think did a with

631
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: CBS four and Fox fifty nine did a one on

632
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: one interview with Carly or State Gordon, and I haven't

633
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: had a chance to.

634
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Check it out yet.

635
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: I think that comes out on Sunday, But that's something

636
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: to be on the lookout for and bring that up

637
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: because Neil's question, how much has this new ownership factored

638
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: Andrew the Colt success this season?

639
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, I guess it's

640
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: just kind of go over everything Carly related I didn't

641
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: think Carly was heavily involved prior to her father's passing.

642
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean heavily involved with about every meaningful aspect of

643
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: the organization is you could imagine, except for maybe a

644
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: couple of the whatever the highest rung there. But you know, again,

645
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: when you know, when Shane's doing his initial interviews before

646
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: he's meeting with Jim Mersay in a Philly hotel room,

647
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: it's with Carly and.

648
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: Chris Boward and you know, Ed Odds and those people.

649
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you want to break down the timetable, Eddie,

650
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: what Jim Mersey passed in May. Yeah, at that point

651
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: of the offseason, to me, you had already made the

652
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: biggest moves, and that was Chris Boward changing his approach

653
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: philosophically on the defensive side of the ball, and obviously

654
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: Shane playing into that with his one on one history

655
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: with a Remo. Obviously the Daniel Jones situation, and then

656
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: paying Mooney Ward and Payne cam bind him. So I

657
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe the Sauce Garter thing, you know, was

658
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: a little Carly jimmen But I I think if Jim

659
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: Mersay was alive and the Culture eight too in present

660
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: them with the same thing. I think Jim Mercey would

661
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: have told Chris Boward to go for it. Yeah, I

662
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: mean the only real hesitancy I guess would be are

663
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: you skeptical about Daniel Jones at all?

664
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Speaker 2: And do you want those first round picks for them?

665
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, I go back to that quote from Albert

666
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: Brier about you know, do you want to bandate it

667
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: or do you want to fix it? Like is that

668
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: her way of asking him a question? Or is that

669
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: her way of, you know, saying do this? Yeah? I know?

670
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: Is that?

671
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: Can't we all speak to that? Don't We all have

672
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: bosses that you kind of walk out of their office

673
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait a minute, were they inferring something

674
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: by the tone there?

675
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: And then you just probably sleep over it, probably like

676
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: your mom, you know, when you're when when they're you're

677
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: about to have company over at the house and she's

678
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: like it makes the comment about your room. He goes, yeah,

679
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: your room, need to clean up your room? Mom? Well,

680
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: why do I need to clean up my room? They're

681
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: not coming into my room?

682
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: So true, man, you wage, But yeah, I think I

683
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: don't you know again, I think Carly, I think I've

684
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: said this from day one. I've always been very impressed

685
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: by how she has handled things and approached things. But

686
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: I think it might be just would the Colts be

687
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: eight and two with Jim Mersey alive?

688
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: That's hard to say. I mean, yeah, I don't know clearly.

689
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: With my massive stutter here, I don't have a great

690
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: strong belief of conviction and thinking. Carly ursay is a

691
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: four win difference right now for the Colts.

692
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: Right three questions left. Evan would like to know. Is

693
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner already the best corner in Colts franchise history?

694
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: Well, you're the best corner, big play, Ray Eugene, Daniel Fonte,

695
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: Davis Fonte, Davis Stefan Gilmour, how do you view that, Eddie?

696
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: Do you view it of you have to be playing

697
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: at your peak with the Colts uniform on? Or do

698
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: you say that universe around the NFL. It's a good question,

699
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: like Gilmore, But you want what defensive player of the

700
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: year didn't he not?

701
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: He did? Patriots?

702
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: He did, But of course I wasn't in Colts uniform.

703
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Antonio Carmarti you remember him, Yeah, I do, trust me.

704
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: I do. UH saw him in all fourteen of his kids.

705
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, some things you can't remember. Yeah, I'd say

706
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: Sauce is certainly up there. Yeah, I mean you are

707
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: reminded of him. I mean even today in the locker room,

708
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: it's like, damn, that dude is tall. His lockers over

709
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: by the receivers. Yeah, I think he got ad Mitchell's locker.

710
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: He kind of blends in height wise, you know, with Pierson,

711
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: with duel.

712
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: In and with Pittman and are a locker mats uh.

713
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: There are a couple down from each other, a couple

714
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: down from each I should have Sauce about a golf

715
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: game today. He's just sitting there at his locker. He

716
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been.

717
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: Of course, you would be worried about that more than anything,

718
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't you. Sounds like he's obsessed with the game.

719
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's up. I mean, yeah, one of the

720
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: You know, the Colts have some unbelievable position, you know,

721
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: in NFL history when you think about it, quarterback and

722
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: running back being top the list, especially running back. I

723
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: don't know if I'd hold a corner in that same

724
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: light necessarily, but yeah, honestly, you know, as one of

725
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: the better corners in franchise history, is freaking Kenny Moore.

726
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, put some respect on his name. Yeah. And as

727
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: the kids say, Kevin game respect game.

728
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: By the way, when they say that, I think they

729
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: said that fifteen years ago and now you still think

730
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: they say that.

731
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: You know they still say but by the way, Uh,

732
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: I just saw this on Facebook. Tyree's Halliburton was at

733
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: my high.

734
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: School today really to the Hawks of Decatur Central.

735
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if it was today, but uh yeah,

736
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: he gifted uh his shoes to the entire boys basketball

737
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 2: team indicator.

738
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's awesome, Yeah, Tyree, what if it was like, oh,

739
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: he was substituting for Missus Jones in English.

740
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: No, apparently he goes to multiple games. Wow, yeah, you

741
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: have a you have to dig in that. Yeah, I

742
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: gotta figure that out. TW. Joe Banner is talking to

743
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: Rich Eisen about the comp for Sauce Gardner. It pretty

744
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: much says that when he was the president of the Eagles,

745
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: history says that fifty percent of the first round picks

746
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: turned into quality starters for two plus years. What do

747
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: you think about the narrative the Colts quote overpaid. Tw's

748
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 2: perspective is, as Joe Banner mentions, first are from far

749
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: from a lock to hit, especially the ones in the twenties.

750
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 2: Taking a twenty five year old sure thing that's likely

751
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: a pro bowler minimum with all pro upside on a

752
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: pretty team friendly deal seems like a complete no brainer.

753
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: Tew, thank you for the question. Yeah, I think so

754
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: much of it just kind of falls into like how

755
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: you view roster building, how you view pushing chips into

756
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: the middle of the table, how you've you draft picks

757
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: and kind of what they can do. Uh, you know,

758
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: for your for your franchise here, Uh, Taekwon didn't practice.

759
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 3: What was ward Ward was full, Carlis was full, pretty

760
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: straightforward practice report.

761
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: I guess this the Colts certainly paid a lot. I mean,

762
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: there are not many trades you've seen in NFL history,

763
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: Eddie that have two first round picks and a whatever

764
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: you want to call Mitchell. You know, I don't know

765
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: what the equivalent is for Mitchell. Let's call him a

766
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: fourth or a fifth rounder. I guess you know you

767
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: don't necessarily see a lot of that to first and

768
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: a fourth or a fifth for a non quarterback. I

769
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: mean that's not common now, granted, you know, moving a

770
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: two time All pro on reasonable contract and have that age,

771
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: as tw points out, is also not the most common thing.

772
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: You know when when people here, when I hear the

773
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: phrase sure thing, I think that's where maybe some people

774
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: have given pause to this trade nationally, of like corner

775
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: is a position that sustaining that greatness can be difficult.

776
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, we just went over some of those great

777
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: corners and franchise history, you know, Gilmore, I mean remember

778
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: like Xavier Rhodes had a good one year, fell off

779
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: a clip like corners. You know, Vonte certainly had a

780
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: volatile career as well. But again, how do you view it?

781
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: Do you view it in a short term view or

782
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: long term view? If you view it in a short

783
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: term we have a two to three year window, then yeah,

784
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: you do this trade ten times out of ten. If

785
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: you view it as a name me the AFC quarterbacks

786
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: that have represented the conference and the champion in the

787
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl over the last twelve years, and Daniel Jones

788
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: doesn't belong in that group, then it was an overpay. Yeah,

789
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: you know, the whole first round picks, I think it's

790
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: more of a It's not that first round picks are

791
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: locks to be hits. Obviously, there's not there's plenty of misses.

792
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: It's more of what you can do with them. You

793
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: can trade up with them, you can trade back with them,

794
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: you can trade them for a player you can you know,

795
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: they're what contractually they're they're ten years of team control,

796
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, with a fifth year team option on each

797
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: of them. That I think is the appeal of why

798
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: draft picks are so coveted and why there is such

799
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: a premium put on them that even though the Colts

800
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: look like they could be drafting late first round each

801
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: of these next two years, the Jets feel like it

802
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: was worth partying with, you know, one of their cornerstone

803
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: players who let's say the Jets rebuild for like, at what,

804
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: he's twenty five Gardner, Yep, the Colts believe he still

805
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: will be a prime player for what, let's.

806
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: Just call it the next five years. Wouldn't it be

807
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: seven years of team control not ten because they overlap

808
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: for four years.

809
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking to each player I know, so, Like

810
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: if they draft Eddie Garrison in twenty six four year

811
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: contract plus one year team option, Kevin Bowing in twenty

812
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: seven four year team contract, one year team opts.

813
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's only from twenty six to twenty seven

814
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 2: or twenty six to thirty years.

815
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Yeah, I'm adding up both of their

816
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: years individually. You have two individual contracts that add up

817
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: to ten years.

818
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: Oh, sorry that I've been working with Jake Querry too much.

819
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I feel like now you've confused me. And

820
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, are you right? Or did you just

821
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: confuse me? And now now it's bothering me. You know,

822
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: Chris Boward spoke on this. I don't know if you

823
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: caught that Eddie we played on our morning show. He

824
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: joined Mike Tice, former NFL coach, and just explained that

825
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: basically what pushed the Gardener trade to the finish line

826
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: for them was age, contract, premium position. When you add

827
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: up all that, that's what kind of pushed them into it.

828
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: So you know, if you you know, I think I

829
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: laid it out when the trade happened. You got to

830
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: play for a Super Bowl, you need to be in

831
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: the AFC title this year, and he's got to get

832
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: back to being an All pro. That's what that trade sent.

833
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: But you know, all pro premium position players that are

834
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: that age and have that contract do not grow on trees. No,

835
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: I mean, how many times have we discussed a Miles

836
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: Garrett trade in the past years? How many times is

837
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: and I'm saying his league wide? How many times has

838
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Max Crosby's name been mentioned?

839
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: They get mentioned every year, but they never.

840
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: Kind They get mentioned every week and they're still the

841
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: same team like you. So again, these guys just do

842
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: not grow on trees. And look at the hits at

843
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: corner for Ballard in the draft.

844
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: Man Garrett's even requested the trade. Then you're like, oh, no, no, no, no,

845
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: well we'll play you a forty four million year. Oh yep,

846
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: that's good. I'll stay here in Cleveland.

847
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Ballard. What three second round corners

848
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: he's drafted?

849
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: Is that right? Make two and a half million a game? Yeah?

850
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: Rock? You seen Quincy Wilson, Juju Brents. I think those

851
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: are the three. And look and look at their careers.

852
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: You know, I probably don't need say any more than that.

853
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: And I hated to see get hurt again.

854
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: Man just sucks. Yeah. What was that milescare contract? Now?

855
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm curious, what have we got?

856
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: We got one more?

857
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have one more. I look up that

858
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: gear contract in a second from Isaac, I'm excited about

859
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: going into the bye week eighting two. But in the

860
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: last two weeks, the Colts have had two turnover on downs,

861
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: twelve sacks, four interceptions, eight fumbles, four lost, a missed

862
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: field goal short on fifty three yards, a mixed extra point,

863
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: a failed two point conversion, and three punts. That is

864
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 2: nearly two dozen momentum shift worthy plays. The Colts offense

865
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: has given up the Colt. The football the Colts have

866
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: been playing lately has been extremely sloppy. Two thirds of

867
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: the turnovers and two thirds of the sacks given up

868
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: have come in the last two weeks. Why have they

869
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: been so undisciplined? What changed? What needs to change? And

870
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: the Colts fix this? Or did they fix it on

871
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: their bye week?

872
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: Speaking of the kicking game, Eddie, would you rather have

873
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: Michael badgely kicking for you the rest of the season?

874
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: Don't even say it? Or Matt Yeah, give me badgly? Okay?

875
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: Did you not see you're good with missing extra points?

876
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Did you not see Matt Gay in that game?

877
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: The last game? The dude had no answers on how

878
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: to kick a football.

879
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: North of fifty yards? Michael Bassy north of fifty yards

880
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a slam.

881
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: Dunk, justin Tucker Wow. Ten game suspensions over, there's no

882
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 2: legal process anymore.

883
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: Let's keep it a little PG here, my Matt Gay

884
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: or Michael Badgley. It's not like it happened with so

885
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: you would take Michael Badgley.

886
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

887
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: Is that because you don't want to call the X

888
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: You don't want to be desperate bring her back? I

889
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: because both of them missed fifty yard kicks. That's both

890
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: of them.

891
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: Do that.

892
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: Michael Badgley is more of like strength. Matt Gay, it's

893
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: more of inaccuracy. But Matt Gay doesn't miss extra points again.

894
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: Just to put the badgely missed extra points into perspective here, Eddie,

895
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: you have to go back four years the last time

896
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: the Colts had two missed extra points. Michael Badgley's missed

897
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: two and five weeks, I mean one more missed extra point.

898
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: And aren't you doing the kicker try out thing again?

899
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: Are you not three miss extra points for an NFL

900
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: kicker in this day and age.

901
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: Probably scary sight.

902
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of outdoor kicking here up coming.

903
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: Michael Badgiet looked very good at practice today. By the

904
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: way in his kicking. I should throw that in there. Yeah,

905
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, Isaac, is there an element of better competition?

906
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: You're away from home, our team's starting to figure you out?

907
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Is this just NFL life? It's hard to be historically

908
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: good like the Colts were. I do think the edge

909
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: protection and then finding answers under pressure that is the

910
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: major root of it for me. You know, where are

911
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: you in that area? You know, Eddie you mentioned the

912
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: screens earlier. I want you kind of finding the hots,

913
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, Bernard Ryman and Brad Smith either being better

914
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: or you just whatever? Does Tyler Morren need to chip

915
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: a little bit more? Does Taylor need to chip a

916
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: little bit more? Those are all questions. It's interesting how

917
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: the O line questions are more edge related than interior related,

918
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: given the youth there. But I think one thing you

919
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: come back from the bye week in the what could

920
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: be different about the final seven games of this season?

921
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Is your dB unit elite?

922
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

923
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean on paper, yes, yeah, I mean that's the answer. Yes,

924
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: you look at it. It is all pro Pro Bowl talent.

925
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: I would argue Nit Cross and cam Bynum are both

926
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: playing at a very nice high level this season as well,

927
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: even if it doesn't end in Pro Bowl or All Pro.

928
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: If that unit becomes elite, now that team over on

929
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: West fifty six Street could very well be in Santa Clara,

930
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: mm hmm. So that I think is the question. You know,

931
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: we have a lot of questions right now. Buckner's loss again,

932
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: where are they at from an offensive protection standpoint? Turnovers?

933
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Is Daniel Jones a pumpkin? You know all those things?

934
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: But dB wise elite with Nico Collins, with Rashid Rice,

935
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: with Jackson Smith and Jake but with whatever, Brian Thomas,

936
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, some notable white.

937
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: House Ricky Piersoll and Jawan Jennings.

938
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see.

939
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah.

940
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: I feel like if I bank on the forty nine ers,

941
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: none of them will be healthy. The forty nine ers

942
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: will have ten dues off the streets and they'll somehow come.

943
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: In here and win on Monday Night. Brandon Nyuk if

944
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: you know, they ever want to activate him seriously.

945
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's a good one.

946
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: But the whole badging thing for me, keV is that

947
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: I was half kidd in, half serious. Look, I watched

948
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: Eddie pinierro for the Giants or not the Giants. The

949
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, just missed two extra points over the weekend,

950
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: and then he bangs like five different field goals in

951
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: that game.

952
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: Now is a double whammy with Matt gay It was

953
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: just he can't make fifty yarders. Remember last year Matt

954
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Gaye did not miss a single kick inside of fifty,

955
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: No field goals, no extra points.

956
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: That's not but that was last year.

957
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: He I think he has year He's only missed one

958
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: field goal inside of fifty as a missed extra point

959
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: with Washington. So now the question becomes a badly he

960
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: was short from north to fifty, right, I'm not one attempt, Yeah,

961
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: but he made his prior to right, and then he's

962
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: missed the extra points. Now again, some people say, hey,

963
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: extra points are worth one who cares? Others would say, well,

964
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: missed extra point? How did you playing catchup and Germany?

965
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: And you know could have cost you the game.

966
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: So Matt gay was U thirteen of nineteen with Washington. Yeah,

967
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: four to nine from north to fifty, so two for

968
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: three between thirty and thirty nine, twenty two for twenty two.

969
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: I know extra points?

970
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: All right? What do you got, colts chiefs? I don't know.

971
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: I haven't even really given this game much thought.

972
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: Yet well that makes for great podcast chatter.

973
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I got the pacer struggles. I'm dealing

974
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 2: with Kevin here. Yeah, you do you do.

975
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: In my lifetime. I'm ashamed to admit how many times

976
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: I've thought the nail was in the coffin of the chiefs,

977
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: and how many times I just I bet against him,

978
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: bet against him, bet against him. And they're freaking inevitable.

979
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: They're so inevitable, they're like cockroaches. I mean exactly. I mean,

980
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: it's Kelsey on third and seven, it's the big DPI,

981
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: it's Harrison Bucker bangs one in off the freaking upright.

982
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: It just Mahomes is, you know stich And I thought

983
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: was so descriptive describing Mahomes today. I just he has

984
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: an incredible feel for the game. I thought that was

985
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 1: a really good way to describe it. He's just he's

986
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: so damn intelligent, and he's so in his own way,

987
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: he's so beautifully athletic, even though at times it looks

988
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: at hair quirky. He just has great feel for knowing

989
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: where he is in the pocket. Footwork. You know this

990
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: arm angle, that arm angle, et cetera, et cetera. And again,

991
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: I look at a lot of these one possion games

992
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: and I just think, at some point Water finds this level.

993
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Chiefs twenty seven to twenty three.

994
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: But I am curious, can what if you put them

995
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: back into another one possession game, because if you if

996
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: you get into the fourth quarter and you go, you know,

997
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: back and forth here in these one possession games, at

998
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: the first moment of you making that play that could

999
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: win the game late, now, all of a sudden, Kansas

1000
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: City says, here we go again. And even if their

1001
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: crowds now, of course their crowd's gonna say it, but

1002
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: what if their sideline starts saying it. Just put them

1003
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: into those situations, make them be chief perfect and see

1004
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: what happens Twenty seven to twenty three.

1005
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: Though Chiefs, I like the Colts in this one, and

1006
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: I like it. I like them for a couple of reasons.

1007
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: The one, I like the fact they're coming off the

1008
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 2: bye week, so it's given them a week to prepare.

1009
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: Number two, I think the run game, both for the

1010
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: Colts and the Chiefs is going to the Colts. Having

1011
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: the major advantage in both categories is key here. The

1012
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: fact that they've got Jonathan Taylor, and I don't know

1013
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: if that Kansas City run defense is as good as

1014
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 2: it is on paper, So I'm going Colts twenty seven

1015
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: to twenty four, very close on the scores.

1016
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: There, he's Eddie Garrison. I'm Kevin Bonen. We'll be back

1017
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: Monday recapping Colts and Chiefs. Everybody have a great, great week.