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Speaker 2: Remember the Titans Never Yeah, one of my all time

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Speaker 3: your John hard parts? Great movie. Who's Your Daddy?

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Speaker 1: I love that one. It's a fan Morning show and

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Speaker 1: one oh seven five The Fan. We didn't have a

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Speaker 1: talking about movies that we lost the great Robert Redford yesterday,

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Speaker 1: who starred in directed so many great movies, including The Natural,

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Speaker 1: which I watched parts of again last night. Just such

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Speaker 1: a great, perfect film, James. If we haven't seen The Natural,

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Speaker 1: go see The Natural. Okay, I got a baseball movie

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Speaker 1: with Robert Redford. It was fantastic. Do you have a

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Speaker 4: Little Roy Hobbs Action. I would go with you on

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Speaker 4: that one there. Yeah, you're probably what, James Boyd. You

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Speaker 4: guess The Naturals what probably fifteen years older than Jameson

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Speaker 4: at least that, but uh yeah, that's probably where I

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Speaker 1: I'm so old that My favorite movie of Robert Redford

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Speaker 1: Sting with Robert Redford and Paul Newman, which is also

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Speaker 2: Ever seen, is a great one. All the President's Men

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And also Tuesday night means no Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: We all were watching The Fever last night, but in

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Speaker 1: With not a lot of just the Fever game going

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Speaker 3: There a lot of video stuff at the Athletic now,

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Speaker 3: so I was called a movie star. Yeah, too many,

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Speaker 1: All right. We'll keep an eye on all those things

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Speaker 1: in the meantime. The Colts get ready for game number three,

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Speaker 1: and Kevin kind of teased it a moment ago. It'll

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Speaker 4: Ross Tucker going to join us here. He's on the call,

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Speaker 4: CBS Call with Tom McCarthy and Manda Ballyonis coming up

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Speaker 4: Sunday again, that's one o'clock down there in Nashville. But

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Speaker 3: I think after Daniel got cracked on that first run

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Speaker 3: It's not game managing. That's winning games. So credit to him.

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Speaker 1: said just find a way to win and move on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think just one thing to keep an

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the defense just a little bit and KB,

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Speaker 1: it's obviously been an improved defense. They held Miami to

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Speaker 4: And I know a lot of people will probably start

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Speaker 1: Mark Dyton, and Colts getting ready to go on the

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Speaker 1: road to play the Tennessee Titans. In Tennessee has really

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Speaker 1: And we all thought, well, a lot of that is,

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Speaker 1: you know, rookie quarterback against the great Broncos defense. But Bason,

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Speaker 3: The fact that Joe Flecco won that award over DeMar

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Speaker 1: He could be the comeback player.

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Speaker 1: You gotta come back from something out of your control.

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Speaker 3: He should? I mean he was outstanding. I believe what

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Speaker 4: Tyler Warren will throw a pass. Yeah, and fair warning

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I can totally see them like where, you know,

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Speaker 1: No, that's what I was talking about. There are certain

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Speaker 1: Got to close that deal too at some point. You

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Speaker 1: I do want to get back real quick. If you're

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Speaker 3: I mean they're going back home, so that that'll be

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Speaker 3: At one point, you're talking to the crowd, all these

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Speaker 2: I have this hot take that like, if the Fever

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Speaker 1: night in terms of energy and the way they ad

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Speaker 1: marked the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, man, did you hear his analysis? Mark

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Speaker 4: opens a little.

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Speaker 1: They defended morning, they defended the basket, they attacked, and

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Speaker 1: they were They were the by far the aggressive team

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Speaker 1: last night.

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Speaker 4: And so just tell them to shut up next time.

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Speaker 3: He kill his mic from be where You're sitting.

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Speaker 1: No, this is what Mark adds to the show. Every

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Speaker 1: show needs a good troll. Mark perfectly performs that role.

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Speaker 1: Hear the game the better for the Fever. Like I

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Speaker 1: thought last night, it was pretty ugly those first couple

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Speaker 1: of quarters.

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Speaker 4: Oh brother, yes, and so I think that favors the

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Speaker 4: Like this is one of those clincher you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean? This is a Atlanta's got the Way to

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Speaker 4: the World. On them Fever.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they haven't really been there like this version exactly.

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Speaker 4: They had a lot of playoff game and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Brittany Grinder is like, you know, the most established

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Speaker 3: player over there, but even she's come off the bench

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Speaker 3: now not playing a lot. They're lead dogs. They have

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Speaker 3: not been in this situation before.

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Speaker 4: So I think, and again the Fever's reaction to the

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Speaker 4: last night rightfully, so it's kind of like that's a

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Speaker 4: cherry on top of the season. Like if the Fever

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Speaker 4: lose tomorrow, probably universally people are going to be like,

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Speaker 4: that was still a successful year given all the injuries.

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Speaker 4: You finally won your first playoff game in X amount

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Speaker 4: of years, all that stuff. Whereas Atlanta, you got the

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Speaker 4: best record in the Eastern Conference and you bow out

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Speaker 4: in round one to a Fever team with more women

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Speaker 4: in street clothes than playing. Yeah, that's not going to

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Speaker 4: be considered a successful You get it ugly. You put

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Speaker 4: game pressure on them late. I think it definitely could happen.

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Speaker 1: And Mark the point was to finish the thought the

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Speaker 1: game they played last night will travel well to it.

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Speaker 2: Just busting your balls on this Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 4: Late to Stephen Holder because We're still going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: a moment ago Steven Holder. Up next, It's the Fan

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Speaker 1: Morning Show at nine one of the seven five mark.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: We're off and running on a what at our Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 1: We've made it to the midway point of the week.

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Speaker 1: Major announcement coming up at about twenty minutes. But in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, the Colts off to a two and oh start,

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Speaker 1: played their first Divisional rival of the season on Sunday

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Speaker 1: in Nashville and joining us now in the Payless Liquors

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Speaker 1: Hotline to give us all the skinny out at ears

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Speaker 1: of my man, Stephen Holder, how are you doing this morning, sir?

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Speaker 6: Going well, how are you guys?

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Speaker 1: We're just living the dream right here talking football and

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Speaker 1: hanging out with you and getting ready for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: And I'll ask you the same thing. I was perusing

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Speaker 1: all the National Riders yesterday and looking at ESPN dot

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Speaker 1: Com and CBS and Pro Football Talk and everything else,

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Speaker 1: and everybody had one question, are the Colts for real,

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Speaker 1: right now? Can we believe in what we're seeing two?

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Speaker 1: And oh that offense functioning at a high level? What

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Speaker 1: do you say?

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Speaker 6: So I tend to have a rule where I tell

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Speaker 6: fans because they always want to know, like, hey, what

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Speaker 6: about this?

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Speaker 5: What about that?

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Speaker 6: After two weeks, and I always say, look, give it

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Speaker 6: a month. However, So that's typically my rule. However, some

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Speaker 6: of this does look sustainable, and I think it's because

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Speaker 6: you know, they're not reliant on one guy. Even though

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Speaker 6: Daniel Jones is certainly at the center of all this,

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Speaker 6: I think what he's doing, he's not playing sort of

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Speaker 6: a hero ball style here. He's getting the ball to

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Speaker 6: different guys. They've had eight different guys catch balls already

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Speaker 6: through two games. They have Jonathan Taylor doing Johnathan Taylor things.

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Speaker 6: They're they're hurting the defense at every level, you know,

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Speaker 6: in the first, second, and third level right now. And

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Speaker 6: it looks like it's sustainable.

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Speaker 5: It looks like it.

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Speaker 6: And really, frankly, the test against Denver, I think said

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Speaker 6: a lot, you know, because that was a very good defense.

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Speaker 6: The Miami game, do I discounted, yeah, a little, But

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Speaker 6: this was a different test, and they passed it so

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Speaker 6: easily and so thoroughly, at least offensively, I think you

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Speaker 6: got to pay attention.

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Speaker 7: Yeah you know.

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Speaker 3: What, Stephen Holder, you sunk a hater right now. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're two weeks in, all right, Drink the kool aid,

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Speaker 3: my man. You know, these are vibes we have not

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Speaker 3: felt in sixteen years, being two and zero for the

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Speaker 3: first time in two thousand and nine. But a more

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Speaker 3: serious note, there are some not like big red flags

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Speaker 3: for me, but there are a couple of things that

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Speaker 3: I'm worried about. And we were talking about it in

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Speaker 3: the first hour of the show. What do you think

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Speaker 3: of this linebacker group so far, and particularly what it

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Speaker 3: means for the run defense, because that's one area of

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Speaker 3: this defense really of the team that kind of stands

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Speaker 3: out to me as a bit of a sore thumb.

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Speaker 6: No, I think it. It's not good, and the Colts

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Speaker 6: know it's not good, which is why they've made moves

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Speaker 6: there in recent weeks. You know, waiverclaim bring in Anthony

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Speaker 6: Walker to be on the practice squad of some depth.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think they've acknowledged the deaths of problem.

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Speaker 6: It hasn't really hurt him yet, but I do think

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Speaker 6: it has. It hasn't been great, though it hasn't great.

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Speaker 6: And and I think when you when when you have

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Speaker 6: a defensive performance like you did in week one, it

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Speaker 6: doesn't show up as much, right because you're getting the

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Speaker 6: pass rush and everybody's eating It was a little bit

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Speaker 6: more of a struggle this past week, and and there

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Speaker 6: are gonna be games I think over the course of

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Speaker 6: time where teams, you know, probably exploit that. That's the thing.

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Speaker 6: I mean, good coaches and given time, they're going to

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Speaker 6: find ways to exploit your weaknesses. And that is a weakness.

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Speaker 6: So the right coach with the right situation is going

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Speaker 6: to be able to exploit that. And it's up to

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Speaker 6: the colt to figure out a way to prevent them

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Speaker 6: from doing that. To they they have to understand their

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Speaker 6: own blind spot there and do something about it.

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Speaker 3: And then sticking with your hater ways because obviously you

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Speaker 3: know you're the only one on the beat who doubted

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. But I thought you actually got some real

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Speaker 3: emotion from him after that game, Stephen, And you know

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Speaker 3: when you phrased the question of like, hey, let's be honest,

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Speaker 3: there were doubts about you. I was thinking, I'll raise

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Speaker 3: my hand in the back, like, yeah, I doubted you.

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Speaker 3: What did you think of his response to that? And

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Speaker 3: perhaps seriously, Stephen, you know some of him peeling back

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Speaker 3: that curtain a bit and letting us know, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: am human and it does feel good to kind of

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Speaker 3: get at least early on that last laugh.

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Speaker 6: I appreciated it because he hasn't given us anything when

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Speaker 6: it comes to, you know, acknowledging that hey buddy, you

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Speaker 6: know you had a rough time in New York and

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Speaker 6: people don't believe in you. It'd be like acknowledging that

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Speaker 6: is not necessarily being a hater, as James would call it.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, look, I think reading the quote here,

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Speaker 6: he says, you know, he says, you know what people

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Speaker 6: are saying, and you know what the narrative is, so

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Speaker 6: you know there's a little bit of that he's talking about,

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Speaker 6: like is their satisfaction? Yeah, there's a little bit of that.

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Speaker 6: But he also finished it by saying, look, it's two games,

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Speaker 6: and you know I've learned to take it one week

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Speaker 6: at a time, etc. However, I do think for Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 6: that was a very big admission because he at least

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Speaker 6: acknowledged it, which he had not done with us. I

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Speaker 6: think he might have kind of sort of sort of

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Speaker 6: done it with McAfee on the show last week, but

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Speaker 6: even that it was a milder version I thought. So, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think you have to feel good for Daniel Jones. Listen,

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Speaker 6: no matter what you felt about his acquisition, no matter

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Speaker 6: who you wanted to win the quarterback battle, any of

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Speaker 6: those things, right, Daniel Jones has never, to my knowledge

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Speaker 6: in his seven seasons, has never been a jerk, has

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Speaker 6: never been given anybody a reason to root against him.

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Speaker 6: He's never done anything to create any kind of opposition

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Speaker 6: to him the person, and so you have to feel

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Speaker 6: good for him given all of that.

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Speaker 4: Steven Holder espn with the Sea on the Paylastickers hot Line,

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Speaker 4: first road trip of the year for the Colts, coming

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Speaker 4: up three and a half point favorite over the Titans

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Speaker 4: in Week three. Steven, do you think the Colts felt

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Speaker 4: the loss of Laotu Latsu or Mooney ward more last week?

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Speaker 6: That's a good one, and I actually think those were

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Speaker 6: the two worst positions for them to be missing. But

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Speaker 6: I wonder if it was if it was a lat too,

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Speaker 6: just because the rest of that group just didn't create

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Speaker 6: any pass rush don't get me wrong. They miss Mooney

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Speaker 6: ward and the Howard performance I think speaks to that.

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Speaker 6: But there was really no pressure on bow Knicks throughout

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Speaker 6: that game, no consistent pressure, and I was disappointed in that, frankly,

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Speaker 6: because that tells you the performance of Week one maybe

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Speaker 6: was a little bit of a mirage, or at least

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Speaker 6: possibly was a mirage in terms of the pass rush.

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Speaker 6: But a Lot two can get there organically, he can

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Speaker 6: win matchups, and I think he's the guy who has

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Speaker 6: to win this year, and he gives them someone else

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Speaker 6: to focus on as opposed to just the forest, Bucker

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Speaker 6: and the rest, you know, being single blocks. I think

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Speaker 6: that's the reality there, you know, with the the loss

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Speaker 6: of Mooney, I think if you're going up against a

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Speaker 6: higher powered offense, and look, the Broncos scored a lot

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Speaker 6: of points in that game, so they did fine, but

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Speaker 6: I think if you're going up against a higher powered offense,

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Speaker 6: that could have been even a more troublesome for them.

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Speaker 6: So all I can say is, I think the word

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Speaker 6: is that this progress in both those guys, and hopefully

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Speaker 6: they get them back because they really can ill afford

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Speaker 6: to lose either one of them.

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Speaker 1: Stephen holder Joning is here on the pay list, Loickers

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Speaker 1: hot Line and Steven While we're talking about defense, what's

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Speaker 1: the energy additionentire and not even that, but even what

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Speaker 1: he provides on the field from Cam bying him so

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Speaker 1: far these first two games, I mean, he cannot be dismissed.

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Speaker 1: How much is he meaning to this defense right now?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think Cam is just a hit. His presence,

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Speaker 6: it's just infectious. He is the kind of guy the

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Speaker 6: teammates feed off of. I think that's exactly what you want.

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Speaker 6: You want a guy who not only makes plays but

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Speaker 6: also just kind of instill some energy in the entire unit.

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Speaker 6: And you know, he's a unique guy. There's no question

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Speaker 6: about it. He's just a unique guy. He is perpetually happy.

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Speaker 6: But he also is very serious about his craft too.

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Speaker 6: So it's not just I want to make interceptions and

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Speaker 6: go dance. I mean, this guy studies, he works. I

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Speaker 6: mean we heard that from mu Anonumo yesterday, and I

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Speaker 6: think you're seeing the results of that. You know that

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Speaker 6: there's not an accident that he's in the right place

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Speaker 6: at the right time. You make your own luck. You

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Speaker 6: make your own lucky by understanding what the opponent is

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Speaker 6: doing and putting yourself in position to succeed.

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Speaker 3: Steven, I want to pivot just a little bit because

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Speaker 3: I know we were actually joking about this. When the

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Speaker 3: Pacers are going through some of their playoffs stuff, you

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Speaker 3: have to do a couple of pinch hitting assignments. You

655
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: saw the Fever get a win last night. Your thoughts

656
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: on just the resiliency of that team without Caitlin Clark,

657
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: who we all thought if they were in this position

658
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: at the start of the year it would be because

659
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: of her.

660
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

661
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 6: I mean you talk about talk about a great story, Okay,

662
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 6: and maybe it's not a story that that the whole

663
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 6: country is paying attention to because of the absence of Caitlin, right,

664
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Speaker 6: But I mean, who thought that they would even make

665
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 6: the playoffs and bowling and now be on the version

666
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 6: of advancing. It's just crazy to me. It's really is crazy,

667
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 6: And I think it speaks to I think the the

668
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 6: the not necessarily the talent, but I think the makeup

669
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 6: of that team. There's talent too, for sure, Man Kelsey, Mitchell,

670
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 6: Leah Boston. There's talent. I mean, like no one's disputing

671
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 6: that they wouldn't be here without it. But but that

672
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 6: wouldn't be enough in itself, you know, And that's what

673
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 6: I like about it, is the fact that they have

674
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 6: they've they dug down and found something within themselves. And

675
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 6: there's a lesson there, man, you know. I mean you

676
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 6: look around the NFL. Not to be all dramatic, but

677
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 6: I mean you look around the NFL look at all

678
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 6: these you know, key players going down, quarterbacks going down,

679
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 6: and you know, how how do you find a way

680
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 6: to overcome that? I mean, there's a lesson there. And

681
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 6: what the Fever have done for any team in any

682
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 6: sport that is going up against a really difficult situation.

683
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Speaker 3: I will say this, I feel like we're living in

684
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: the twilight zone because the Fever are game away from

685
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: advancing in the playoffs without Caitlyn Clark, the culture too

686
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: and O with Daniel Jones, and I'm thinking to myself,

687
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: how did we get here? And honestly, I can't really

688
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: argue anything else. Steven is just it's unique, to say

689
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: the least, and it is especially mom before the city

690
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: I think as well, just seeing some of the guys.

691
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: I saw Kenny Moore, Zia Franklin, they were at the

692
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: game last night. You know, Tyre's Halliburns on the mic

693
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: last night doing his Pat McAfee impression. So the vibes

694
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: are good and I'll throw it over to Kevin, but

695
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: I just want to get that in the real quick.

696
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, you go down the list from a local standpoint, Yeah,

697
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: are you football not a name get the national title?

698
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 4: I mean there's been a lot year, but like good weird, Yeah, yeah,

699
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: certainly with that Stephen last one for me, and I

700
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: part of me thinks I'm an idiot for even like

701
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 4: throw the question out there, But I'm just curious, big, big,

702
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: big picture thoughts here with Daniel Jones and the Colts.

703
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 4: I assume this would take Carly or say Gordon's sign off.

704
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: But do you think there's any point that Daniel Jones

705
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 4: could string together a level of play this season to

706
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: where the Colts would hand him a contract extension in season?

707
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 6: So good question. I actually think that just from a

708
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 6: contract perspective, I don't know if they can because that

709
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 6: would I think you'd have to actually wait until after

710
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 6: the league year to do it. That's my understanding of

711
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 6: how that would work. But you follow what I mean, Like,

712
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 6: I think he signed a contract within the twenty twenty

713
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 6: five league year back in March, and I don't believe

714
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 6: you can sign two within the same league year is

715
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 6: my understanding of how that works.

716
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: It Okay, got it.

717
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 6: However, However, that being said, that being said, I mean

718
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 6: I've had conversations with people in that building before the

719
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 6: season and when I would ask about like, okay, like

720
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 6: still plan after twenty twenty five, because my assumption was

721
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 6: all right, well, you ain't resigning this guy, okay, And

722
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 6: on a couple of occasions I was told, well, hey,

723
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 6: I mean if he if he hits it, and if

724
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 6: he and if he lights it up, why can't we

725
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 6: just resign him? And I was like, all right, good

726
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 6: luck with that. So I feel pretty stupid right now.

727
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 6: So anyway, I think my point is they were actually

728
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 6: open to the idea. It was just an idea, okay.

729
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 6: No one was like politicking for it. But it was

730
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 6: an idea even before he started doing this. So you

731
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 6: have to know those wheels are already turning if this

732
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 6: is actually real at this point.

733
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: Steven, always great to catch up with You have yourself

734
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: a day, buddy, We'll see us soon, all right. So

735
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: you guys, I've been announced it this morning. Not only

736
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: are we the home of the Indiana Pacers, the Indianapolis Colts,

737
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: the Indy five hundred Indiana University, but Indianapolis's own Butler

738
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: Bulldogs once again airing here on ninety three five and

739
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: one on seven to five the fan. We're gonna be

740
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: excited at that. And coming up in a minute, we'll

741
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: talk to the head coach, Thad Mata, who joined us

742
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: on the payless Liokuers hotline. Now, coach, it's we're ready

743
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: for another season. I know you're just a couple of

744
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: weeks away, and we're happy to have you guys back.

745
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: We're excited about it. How excited should we be this year?

746
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 5: You know?

747
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 8: I think, I know, I'm excited, And uh, isn't it

748
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 8: It's September seventeenth and we're talking college basketball?

749
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: Love it?

750
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 8: I know, Ray's It's amazing how it's become just, you know,

751
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 8: kind of year round for us. And uh, we've got

752
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 8: ten new guys on the roster and and uh, you know,

753
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 8: now in college basketball you can practice in the summer

754
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 8: and even into the fall. You get time limitations. But

755
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 8: I think these guys have made great strides. I'm I'm excited.

756
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 8: I liked the group that we got. I think there

757
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 8: were athletic is as we've been. We've got lengths, we've

758
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 8: got size, and and uh, just a really really good

759
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 8: group of guys that have done a great.

760
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 7: Job so far.

761
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Coach.

762
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 4: Great to hear your voice, thanks for hopping on and

763
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: James and I were fortunate to come to practice probably

764
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: about a month ago. And you know, the the amateur

765
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 4: eye did indicate definitely some more athleticism as you mentioned

766
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: and length. How big of a focus was that and

767
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: retooling your roster here this offseason.

768
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 7: Well, it was very very important to us.

769
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 8: I think you know that was the thing that I said,

770
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 8: is we've got to add athleticism. You know, you have

771
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 8: had the pleasure of coaching some really really good college

772
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 8: basketball teams, and we were we were athletic because when

773
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 8: you play in the biggiest conference and you've got to

774
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 8: go through twenty games, you know in the end that

775
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 8: that adds up for you of just you know, having guys.

776
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 8: You look at last year, we I think thirteen to

777
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 8: twenty games at halftime in the Big East, and a

778
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 8: lot of times we ran out of gas. We want

779
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 8: his deep you know, Jamie Kaiser not playing for US

780
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 8: last year set us back a little bit.

781
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 7: But I think just.

782
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 8: From the standpoint of of you know, we wanted speed

783
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 8: of positions at the point guard position, we wanted, you know,

784
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 8: longer athletic guys, and I think we did that, and

785
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 8: especially at the center position, we're much much more athletic there.

786
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: You talk about that a lessons and coach. What has

787
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: the addition of Michael Jayi been, at least just early

788
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: on as far as you getting him out, getting Hi

789
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 3: acclimated to your program, and what's been your impression of

790
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: the form again Zaga product.

791
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I love Michael. I mean, his work work ethic

792
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 8: is second to none. He's done a great job with

793
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 8: his body. I mean he's one of those guys he's

794
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 8: in the gym for hours every day just just trying

795
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 8: to get better.

796
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 7: He's very focused. He's a cerebral kid.

797
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 8: And I've enjoyed just sitting and talking with him and

798
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 8: getting his thoughts and you know, trying to shape his mind.

799
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 8: You know, we're going to need him to be a really,

800
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 8: really good player for us this year, and I think

801
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 8: that's what he's looking for when he when he left

802
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 8: Gonzaga to come here and.

803
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 7: Expecting big things from Michael Well.

804
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: The head coach the Butler men's basketball team, Dad Mana

805
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: joining us on the Payless Liquors hotline. It's such a

806
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: special place for college basketball, and the conference is no

807
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: joke for you as a coach and coming back and

808
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: been back for a bit now, But what makes it

809
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: so special to you Butler basketball? Why is it just

810
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: different there?

811
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know, it's odd, you know, being

812
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 8: a guy who who played here and then obviously coached

813
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 8: here as an assistant and second stint as a head coach, you.

814
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 7: Know, there's just there's I don't know what it is.

815
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 7: It's hard to explain.

816
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: You.

817
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 8: I tell recruits and I try to get him to

818
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 8: do it.

819
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 7: They never do it.

820
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 8: But I remember my father and I and I think

821
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 8: it was like eighty six, back in the late nineteen hundreds,

822
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 8: we walked into Hinkle and I just looked around. I said,

823
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 8: I'm coming here, you know, And I'm more of a

824
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 8: rollback old school you know, raised.

825
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 7: In a small town. But uh, I don't know.

826
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 8: I find myself at times in practice kind of just

827
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 8: looking around Hinkle and being like wow, you know, just

828
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 8: everything that's ever occurred in this building, and it's it's

829
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 8: still it's it's pure. That's I think the thing that

830
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 8: I love about Butler. And you know, college athletics has

831
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 8: become a business.

832
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 7: It is what it is.

833
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 8: And but I think there's still pureness at Butler in

834
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 8: terms of the type of kids that we you know,

835
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 8: I tell recruits.

836
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 7: Like, hey, we we go to class here.

837
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 8: We it's still college, you know, and it's not online

838
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 8: and and all that stuff.

839
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 7: And I don't know, it's just it is.

840
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 8: It is a special, special place and will always be

841
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 8: special to me, that's for sure.

842
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 7: And and and you know, we get to do.

843
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 8: A better job of protecting our home court. We haven't

844
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 8: been good of that in three years. And and uh,

845
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 8: you know that's something that is very very important to.

846
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: Me, coach, kind of big picture and this is probably

847
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: more of a college basketball question, obviously, you've been in

848
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 4: the game for a long time from a college standpoint.

849
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 4: One of the more popular story lines we've seen in

850
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 4: recent offseasons about the NCAA Tournament and potential expansion to it.

851
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 4: We will not get that this year. It is sticking

852
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 4: to sixty eight. I know Coach's opinion might differ than

853
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 4: some others in the business. Do you have an opinion

854
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: on whether or not the tournament should expand I do?

855
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 7: I think that.

856
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 8: I remember I think it was Bob Knight back in

857
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 8: the eighties and led everybody in and and you know,

858
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 8: I just I've I've always been a compote let as

859
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 8: many as you can because it's so subjective now and

860
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 8: and when you think about it, you know, the all

861
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 8: the you know, it's basically like computers that are are

862
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 8: deciding who goes and and uh me not being a

863
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 8: tech guy, uh that that's probably not a good thing.

864
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 8: But you know, you look at at some of these

865
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 8: conferences now they don't even go to the conference tournament,

866
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 8: and like what do you go to college for? Or

867
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 8: you know, I know which to go to college for?

868
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 8: Any mean that, but like, you know, the team that

869
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 8: doesn't get to go to their com Prince tournament, that's like,

870
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 8: I don't know, I mean that is that truly march madness,

871
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 8: no doubt about.

872
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: That, coach. One last one from me. I had a

873
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 3: chance to watch Think Robinson last year at Lawrence Norrith,

874
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: and I was like, man, they're getting a good one

875
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: over at Butler, because this guy can fill it up

876
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: with some buckets. What's been your impression of him? And

877
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: obviously to break that record at l AN, you got

878
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: to be pretty good because I believe he broke Greg

879
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: Golden's record.

880
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 7: He did, he did.

881
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's there's been a player to come through Lawrence

882
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 8: Snorts and that's for sure. But uh, hishavior has been

883
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 8: I love him and and I'll be honest with you,

884
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 8: he's he's adapting to the college game.

885
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 7: Really well. He's he's uh, he wants to be.

886
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 8: A player, he wants to be coached, and and you know,

887
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 8: he's got some some things that have you know, God

888
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 8: given abilities that I don't have drills to create, just

889
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 8: with his speed and his his you know, ability to

890
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 8: get up and guard and and uh, like I said,

891
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 8: I've been very pleased with him and older freshman. Be

892
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 8: honest with you, it's funny yesterday we were practicing and

893
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 8: as we got going fast, the game really got sped up.

894
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 8: And I told the coaches after, I said, well you

895
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 8: can see who the freshmen were today because it was

896
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 8: going so fast. And but no, he has been really,

897
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 8: really good. And you know one of those guys that

898
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 8: wants to know everything, which is is what you want

899
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 8: in a point guard.

900
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: So follow up on that real quick. What, because you've

901
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 3: been around the game so long, what has it been

902
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: like to see the team building sort of shift Because

903
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: now if you get a transfer, he can play that year.

904
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: So what's that balance of like the old teams winning college,

905
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: but you still want to have that pipeline of your

906
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: own talent coming through your program.

907
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's such a fine line, to be honest with you,

908
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 8: And you know, we laugh about it in recruiting meetings.

909
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 8: You know, back in the day, you could look three

910
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 8: years ahead and say, you know, the Xavier is going

911
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 8: to buy the time, he's a junior, he's gonna be

912
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 8: an old league player, you know whatever. And now it's

913
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 8: kind of like, hey, this coaches team and see what

914
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 8: this ring brings. But I think in terms of the

915
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 8: team building, the one thing that we've really tried to

916
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 8: do is is hanging on guys character and and trying

917
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 8: to find the right fit for our locker room and

918
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 8: and for Butler and and I think, you know, the

919
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 8: cohesiveness we have right now with ten new players on

920
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 8: the roster has been tremendous, And you know, the one

921
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 8: thing you do get when you bring in older guys,

922
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 8: you get a certain level of maturity and and our

923
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 8: older guys, even though that maybe the first time here,

924
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 8: have have done a really really good job of forming

925
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 8: some cohesiveness in terms of the locker room and practice

926
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 8: habits and and that sort of thing. So I've been

927
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 8: very very pleased with that because that is a that

928
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 8: is something that you're a lot of times you're tooling

929
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 8: a whole new team, and you know, fortunately for us,

930
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 8: having Finley back for his third season is a good

931
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 8: thing for us.

932
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: Coach. Last thing for me, amongst your returners, Mark Minner

933
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: and Nick Gardner, how's that pair of working out for you?

934
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 8: I tell you what, those guys are great. They they'll

935
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 8: do a you've heard them, and you know, two special

936
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 8: guys that both obviously love Butler, they love Butler basketball,

937
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 8: and they want us to do as well as they can.

938
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 8: And I think just from from that standpoint, they make

939
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 8: my life easier in terms of the interviews and stuff

940
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 8: that I have to do. And and you know, very

941
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 8: excited to work side by side.

942
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 7: With those two.

943
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: Always good to talk to you, coach. Can't wait for

944
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: another season to get going. It'll be here before you

945
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: know it, and we'll talk to you probably weekly. I

946
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

947
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 7: All right, guys, thank you.

948
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: We're getting ready for the Colts game three week three.

949
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: They're undefeated for the first time in a while. Everybody's

950
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: saying nice things about them nationally. We're excited. We can't

951
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: wait to see how things work out over the next

952
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. They've got Tennessee coming up on the

953
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: road this week, and then they play the Rams and

954
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Raiders and the Cardinals, and those are essentially winnable games,

955
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: every one of them. Kevin, the way things stand right now.

956
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ry frontloaded schedule, a positive manner, So, yeah, the

957
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: Colts have a golden, golden opportunity here early in this season.

958
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's check in with one of those national

959
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: media members. Good friend of the show, good friend of mine.

960
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: It's Ross Tucker, who joins us now in the pay

961
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: Less Liquors hot Line. He'll be on the call coming

962
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: up on Sunday. You can always listen to Ross on

963
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: his podcast. More information on that coming up in a minute.

964
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: But good morning, sir, and welcome to the party.

965
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, thank you for having me. It must be

966
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 5: a party. With the way this team has started this year.

967
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 5: I'm excited for you guys, and I'm certainly very excited

968
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 5: to call this game on Sunday.

969
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: As Jeff said, Ross will be on the call again

970
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 4: him Tom McCarthy, a Manda Bally ONNAS who does great

971
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: work on a lot of PJ Tour stuff. That'll be

972
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 4: one o'clock coming up, and you can follow Ross on

973
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 4: social at Ross Tucker NFL. Ross, I'll never forget we

974
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 4: had you on probably I don't know, three four months

975
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: ago because you believed in Daniel Jones. Like all of

976
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: a sudden, I'm reading something you know this spring, and

977
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: you were adamant that he would do something with the

978
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: Colts in a positive manner two weeks in. You are

979
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: an absolute genius. Why did you believe in Daniel Jones then?

980
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: And what have you seen through two weeks?

981
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, thank you so much for remembering that,

982
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 5: and you just gave me an idea. I need to

983
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 5: tell my Ross Tucker Football podcast producer to pool all

984
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 5: the clips from March from April, all of them. I'm

985
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: gonna takes. As long as this keeps rolling, I'm going

986
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 5: to take a bunch of victory laps amen. No, I'll

987
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 5: tell you why. Okay, a couple things. First of all,

988
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: you know, people forget Daniel Jones led a team to

989
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 5: a road playoff victory. That is not easy to do,

990
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 5: you know, to make the playoffs at all. And you

991
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 5: guys know that in recent years. Let alone then go

992
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 5: on the road and play extremely well against the Vikings

993
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 5: and actually win a road playoff game. And he did

994
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 5: it with the Giants team that never had a good

995
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 5: offensive line when he was there, not one time. Never

996
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 5: had a good skill position group around him, not one time.

997
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 5: So I started with that part of it. Secondly, you

998
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 5: guys know why do the Eagles preseason games. So I've

999
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 5: been around Shane Stike in a lot and I think

1000
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 5: Jane's very good. I mean, I saw where Hurts was

1001
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 5: and where he took Hurtz and it was like he

1002
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 5: went from being probably a below average starter to second

1003
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 5: in the MVP voting. Now listen, the Eagles rosters loaded,

1004
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of reasons for that, right, But

1005
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 5: I saw what Stike and did with the RPOs with Hertz,

1006
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 5: and I thought, I really like Daniel Jones in that system.

1007
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones can run, you know, and I think the

1008
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 5: biggest thing with Daniel Jones is getting rid of the

1009
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 5: ball faster. The other thing I saw is what Saquon

1010
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 5: looked like last year when he left the Giants. You know,

1011
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: there's a reason why the Giants have been had the

1012
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 5: worst record in football over like the last five years.

1013
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 5: They're not good, right, It's hard for anybody to do

1014
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 5: well there. Saque leaves and he's the offensive player of

1015
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 5: the year in the league, Daniel Jones leaves and I

1016
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 5: don't know, he'd probably get he'd probably win the vote

1017
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: right now for Offensive Player of the Year after two games.

1018
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 5: I mean, he certainly would be in the running right now.

1019
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 5: So all of those things combined are why. And I

1020
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 5: knew that this was a better O line and certainly

1021
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 5: better skill than Daniel had around him, So all of

1022
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 5: which are reasons why I was bullish on it. Now

1023
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 5: what has to happen is the biggest thing. He has

1024
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 5: to stay healthy and not take shots like he did

1025
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: against the Dolphins. But what's so encouraging is there's like

1026
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 5: real improvement that I don't know how, Like he's never

1027
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 5: been good at pocket movement, He's he's been fast, and

1028
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 5: he's a good runner, but his subtle pocket movement has

1029
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 5: always been lacking. And I'm watching his tape against the

1030
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 5: Broncos and he's moving around, He's like fading and still

1031
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 5: making throws. I'm like, who is this guy? You know?

1032
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 5: I will say this. I thought it would work. I

1033
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 5: thought he would do well. I think he's probably doing

1034
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: even even better than I had anticipated.

1035
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: Ross Tucker joining us now on the Payoff Slickers hotline.

1036
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: You can listen to him as the host of the

1037
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 3: Ross Tucker Podcast. Get that wherever you subscribe to your

1038
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: podcast and Ross to piggyback off at that point you

1039
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: just made. When Daniel had success in New York in

1040
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, it was because he was also utilized

1041
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: as a runner. And what's surprising to me is that

1042
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: he really hasn't been a runner through the first two games.

1043
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: So what do you make of him really beating teams

1044
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: through the air with his arm? And yes, he's had

1045
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: I think he has three rushing touchdowns technically, but they

1046
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: all been QB sneaks. He hasn't been running the ball

1047
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 3: a lot. And so what do you think of maybe,

1048
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: you know, keeping him away from those types of hits

1049
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: and plays while still finding success through the air.

1050
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 5: Well. I think maybe Shane saw the hit he took

1051
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 5: against the Dolphins and thought, yeah, I don't know if

1052
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if we want to do this unless

1053
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 5: we have to do this, which I think is smart.

1054
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: That is also, by the way, one of the fair

1055
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 5: critiques of Daniel is that he's never really done a

1056
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 5: great job of protecting himself when he does run. You know,

1057
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 5: some guys do an awesome job of you know, always

1058
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 5: like Kaler Murray, it feels like he always runs out

1059
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 5: of bounder slides. Hurts is pretty good at that. Then

1060
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 5: these these other quarterbacks, and by the way, Jade Daniels

1061
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 5: is one of them that like, they have a strong

1062
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 5: tendency of getting master blasted. Let's just crushed. They just

1063
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 5: don't get it. And that's always been Daniel Jones, and

1064
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 5: so I think it's probably smart for Stiking to try

1065
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 5: to limit that as much as he can. But I

1066
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 5: just have to tell you, guys, he's fast. And the

1067
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 5: fact that they're having this much success without having to

1068
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 5: use that run game that much is highly encouraging because

1069
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 5: you know it's there and you know they can use

1070
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 5: it when they have to. And by the way, they're

1071
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 5: running the ball pretty effectively. But if you're able to

1072
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 5: add Daniel's legs, he only has to do it once

1073
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 5: maybe twice a game where he pulls it takes around

1074
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: the corner that you don't need much five to twelve

1075
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 5: yards get out of bounds or slide, but just knowing

1076
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 5: he can do that and just the threat of him

1077
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 5: doing that, it creates incredible angles for the offensive line

1078
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 5: in the run game because the defense has to honor that.

1079
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 5: And I've seen it every look I watch every snap

1080
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 5: the Eagles play. Because I do so much stuff in

1081
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 5: Philly radio and media and whatever for the Eagles, I

1082
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Speaker 5: can't even begin to tell you how much of an

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Speaker 5: advantage is. Yes, the Eagles offensive line is great, and

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00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 5: yes Hurts is good, blah blah blah. A lot of

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Speaker 5: that is just the scheme and the threat of Hurts

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Speaker 5: and what that does to the opposition. And it's critically

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Speaker 5: important that they do that once or twice the game

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Speaker 5: so that Daniel Jones has that threat and opens things

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Speaker 5: up for Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 1: He's the host of the Ross Tucker podcast, who you

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Speaker 1: should follow on social media Ross Tucker NFL, and of

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Speaker 1: course he'll be on the call for the Colts and

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Speaker 1: Titans coming up this weekend. Ross. Everybody's talking about Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones as they should. Everybody's talking about Shane Steichen as

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00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: they should. Tyler Warren's getting a lot of play, but

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Speaker 1: can we talk about Jonathan Taylor in the impact he's

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Speaker 1: had so far?

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Speaker 5: I love Jonathan Taylor. I mean I can't believe that

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Speaker 5: stat where he almost hit what twenty four twenty three

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Speaker 5: miles an hour on that catch out of the backfield

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Speaker 5: going down the sideline. I think I saw where it

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Speaker 5: was the fastest for a back since Raheem Moster a

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Speaker 5: few years ago. I mean, absolutely incredible that Taylor at

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Speaker 5: his size. I mean, he's not a small dude. This

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Speaker 5: isn't Devin h Chan for the Dolphins. Jonathan's a pretty

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Speaker 5: big dude to be rolling like that. It's such a

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Speaker 5: good sign that he's healthy, that he has that type

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Speaker 5: of speed. You know, obviously Warren is opening some things up.

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Speaker 5: I mean right now, you know they have like the

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Speaker 5: perfect mix of Tyler Warren and what he can do,

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Speaker 5: Taylor out of the backfield, the run game, Pittman what

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Speaker 5: he does, and then being able and downs underneath and

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Speaker 5: then having two guys, not just one, but two guys.

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Speaker 5: You can throw two down field in Peers and a

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Speaker 5: d Mitchell. I'm just telling you, guy, I'm not trying

1116
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Speaker 5: to go overboard. It's two games. They got a really

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Speaker 5: really good thing going right now.

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Speaker 4: Ken Ross talker with us. You're gonna hear him on

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Speaker 4: the call coming up Sunday one o'clock, that is, with

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Speaker 4: Tom McCarthy and Amanda Balleonis Ross last one for me.

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Speaker 4: Obviously we've dominated the conversation. Colt Swise. Part of your

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Speaker 4: studying has been cam Ward. You know, the numbers won't

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Speaker 4: overwhelm you in a positive direction by any means through

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00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 4: two weeks, but it sounds like people are a little

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Speaker 4: bit more optimistic about cam Ward than just maybe the

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Speaker 4: raw numbers look like. What have been your observations of

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Speaker 4: the number one overall pick?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think it's probably what you would kind

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00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 5: of expect from a number one overall pick. It's probably

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Speaker 5: what you would kind of expect from a rookie. You know,

1131
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 5: there are some really really good plays that are high.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he had a touchdown. I'm sure you guys

1133
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 5: have seen it, right, sure, you know. On the one hand,

1134
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Speaker 5: it's a. It's it's not a smart play to be

1135
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Speaker 5: running fast and be at the sideline and throw the

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Speaker 5: ball into the end zone across the hash the other

1137
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Speaker 5: side of the field. I mean that pass should probably

1138
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 5: be intercepted more often than not. So it's one of

1139
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 5: those where you're like, oh man, that's a that's a

1140
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 5: poor decision. The flip side is it was incredible. It

1141
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 5: was absolutely incredible. Like legitimately, I think this will sound

1142
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 5: like hyperbole, but I'm telling you, guys, it's not. It's

1143
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Speaker 5: like one of the best touchdown throws we've seen in years.

1144
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 5: There's all kinds of next gen stats about how fast

1145
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 5: he was moving, how long he held the ball, how

1146
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 5: far he actually threw it. I'm sure we're going to

1147
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 5: use it on the broadcast on but it really is

1148
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Speaker 5: one of the craziest touchdown throws we've seen in years

1149
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 5: that you know, probably number one, because guys just never

1150
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Speaker 5: even attempt something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not only that, and real quickly too. I was

1152
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Speaker 1: watching that and watching some of their game. It doesn't

1153
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Speaker 1: seem to me like Calvin Ridley's figured out how to

1154
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: catch that heater right now, because there's been some bad

1155
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: drops for him, so.

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Speaker 5: Far well, And that's some of that I would say too,

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Speaker 5: I agree, but some of that would I would say

1158
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 5: two is on ward a little bit. He does have

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Speaker 5: the different throws and to layer the ball because not

1160
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 5: every pass, you know, should be you know, a fastball

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Speaker 5: as hard as he can throw it. My biggest frustration

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Speaker 5: with him is like a lot of rookie quarterbacks, which

1163
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Speaker 5: is why a lot of times as offensive linemen, you

1164
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 5: don't like when they put a rookie quarterback out. There

1165
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 5: is just some of the sacks he's taking, right, I mean,

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Speaker 5: some of the sacks he's take, stepping up into sacks,

1167
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Speaker 5: holding the ball too long. And then they were right

1168
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Speaker 5: there with the Rams. I mean, he had the game

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00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 5: changing play when he got stripsacked when he held the

1170
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 5: ball too long number one, and then had really really

1171
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 5: poor ball security and that's when that's when the Rams

1172
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 5: game really got away from them. They had to leave

1173
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Speaker 5: with a minute left in the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So last one we have for you, Ross futurefans dot Com.

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Speaker 3: I know you're big on teaching a game to the

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Speaker 3: young folks, So what can you tell us about that

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Speaker 3: and what it can mean for the youth.

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Speaker 5: Well, so you guys will appreciate this because the guys

1180
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Speaker 5: that invented this are Bengals fans, and a few years

1181
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Speaker 5: ago they could not get their young kids to watch

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Speaker 5: the Bengals during that epic playoff run to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: You know, their kids wanted to be on their iPad

1184
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Speaker 5: or doing other things. They're like, we'll watch next year.

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Speaker 5: They're like, no, no, no, we're Bengals fans, like, we don't

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Speaker 5: go to the Super Bowl sit on the couch and watch.

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Speaker 5: So these guys said, we got to figure something out

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Speaker 5: because I don't know, I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 5: have kids or how old they are. It's actually really

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Speaker 5: hard to get kids to just sit down and watch

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Speaker 5: the whole game with you. I mean my daughters. You know,

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Speaker 5: I'm a football guy. I can't get them. The older

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Speaker 5: one will watch a little bit longer. The younger one

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Speaker 5: has like no interest, they want to be on their

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Speaker 5: iPad or whatever. So these guys have cracked the code.

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Speaker 5: they like reading story books, they like activities, you know, games,

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Speaker 5: yourself a gift because, especially now that it looks like

1204
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Speaker 5: the Colts are good, think about how awesome that would

1205
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Speaker 5: be if they would sit there and watch this Colts

1206
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Speaker 5: team with you every Sunday and enjoy this squad. It's

1207
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Speaker 5: like the gift that keeps on giving. I want every

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Speaker 5: kid to at least understand it and go ahead and

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Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 5: Sounds great. Thanks for having me, guys,