1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: So it's the end of the penny. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: No more penny for your thoughts, I'd see. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 3: What she did there. Yeah, so, I mean there will 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 3: still be a penny. 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: It's still in circulation, but there's no. 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: They're not making any more penny. 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 4: Correct first introduced in seventeen ninety three, it's been part 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 4: of the US currency for over two hundred and thirty years, 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 4: and they decided it was too expensive to make the 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 4: one cent. 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: Right because what it was like four or five cents 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: to make every penny, Is that right? 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 14 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 4: Donald Trump said it was economically unsustainable. He ordered the 15 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 4: discontinuation of it, and it will save the US treasury 16 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 4: around fifty six million dollars annually. 17 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that probably makes a lot of sense, right, especially 18 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: in a more in an environment in which more and 19 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: more people, fewer and fewer people, i should say, are 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: using actual physical cash. 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Most people don't. 22 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: Keep track of their pennies anyway. It ends up in 23 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: a cup or you know, a bottom of couch, er, 24 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: big milk jug or whatever. Probably from the US government 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: and taxpayer perspective, that's a good move to say fifty 26 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: six million dollars for something fewer and fewer people are 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: are taking advantage. 28 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but some people still feeling nostalgic about it, right? 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: Are they symbolizes good luck? 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: Are people waking up today like, oh no, no more penny? 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 4: I remember my grandpa used to take all of the 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 4: change out of his pocket and if I could add 33 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 4: it up correctly, he would give it to me. 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And there. 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: Were always pennies in there, sometimes nichols. Sometimes times if 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 4: it was a good day, there was a quarter. 37 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: No, and I hardly agree there was an era, not 39 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: all that long ago where people did collect keep use change. 40 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: I just think there's so few cash transactions anymore, mini 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: stores going to cash less options only, and that you 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: just don't even have I mean, do you walk around. 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: I mean you have a purse, but do you walk 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: around do you have change in your purse right now? 45 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: Look, I'll look and tell you. I don't think there's 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: any money in there. I did just get back from vacation. 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 3: I mean I have one penny and one nickel. Okay, 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: you have one penny and one nickel. So I have 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 3: a in my car. The cup with the change in 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: is probably worth more than the car itself. But I 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: have a you know, a little cup and I every 52 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: so often get the quarters out and I keep a 53 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: little quarter jar. But I just think it's just a 54 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: thing where sadly, because you're right, how many people of 55 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: the X or gen you know, a millennial era or 56 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: whatever do or have those memories of grandparents or aunts 57 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: or uncles pulling out a shiny coin of some sort 58 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: and giving it to you. I just think that's mostly 59 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: done and it makes sense to move on. 60 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: This is a very shiny penny that I did pull 61 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 4: out of my purse. It was minted in twenty twenty five, so. 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: All new you should keep that as a closed. 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: I wonder is that going to make pennies worth more money? 64 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: You know, there's always the wheat penny or the special 65 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: pennies with the you know, I don't know, minted at 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: the d wherever. 67 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: That's right? 68 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: Does that make them worth more? 69 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: Now? 70 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: Have you ever spent a day sifting through your coins 71 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: trying to figure out if any of them are worth anything? 72 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: Well, there's an app that you can scan your change. Okay, yeah, 73 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: and I have done that until when you take a 74 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 4: picture of it or you Yeah, but you only get 75 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: to scan so many until you have to start paying 76 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: for the service. 77 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: On the air, and it probably costs more for the 78 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: service than your coins are actually worse than what they're worth. 79 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 80 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: Interesting, But it does, you know, raise questions about what 81 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: are retailers gonna do. 82 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: Are they gonna just round up to the knickel? I mean, 83 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: there's got to be so many pennies in circulations. They've 84 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: been out there since seventeen ninety three. Sure, it's not 85 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: like we're gonna run out of pennies. 86 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it'll be a slow drip towards the end. 87 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: I mean by you know, in ten years, maybe you're 88 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: gonna have to make some sort of call on something. 89 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: But I think you'll be all right for a while. 90 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: Are we gonna lose the take a and need a penny? 91 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: Take a penny? 92 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: I think that's done. Yeah, I mean those still exist 93 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: at the gas stations. I don't go into gas stations anymore. 94 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've still seen them. 95 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: They still exist there. Well that's good. People are trying 96 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: to help their help their fellow man. 97 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: Hey, but it doesn't really matter, Casey because the economy 98 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: is doing great. 99 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's what Steven Miller said. 100 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Now he is what is he? 101 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: He's a he's an advisor. 102 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had many titles in the various Trump Administration's plural. 103 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: But is that then the businesses frob he's an advisor. 104 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 105 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 2: Here he is talking about how great the economy is 106 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: and where it's going. 107 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 5: What is next for the economic plan for this president. 108 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 5: We're focusing relentlessly on affordability. So President Trump's working to 109 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 5: bring down the cost of living even more than he 110 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: already has. So Thanksgiving meals are going to be twenty 111 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 5: five percent cheaper. But President Trump is not content with that. 112 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 5: He is fighting to bring down the cost of every 113 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: senior consumer and household good. And the taxi is going 114 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 5: to be a huge part of this because when we 115 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: make life more affordable for our companies, for domestic industry, 116 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 5: for domestic MA manufacturing with one hundred percent expensing, with 117 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 5: the largest tax cuts in history, then prices are going 118 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 5: to keep coming down. This also involves energy affordability. No 119 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 5: president in history has done more. Larry, you know this 120 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: so well to make energy or affordabille. President Trump is 121 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 5: leaning into energy affordability. We are building new pipelines for 122 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: the first time in the northeastern quarter of this country. 123 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 5: You've seen that we have a major pipeline that is 124 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 5: moving through the Nessy pipeline. 125 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: More to come. 126 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 5: And the President is also making nuclear energy modern, safe, reliable, 127 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 5: clean nuclear energy to power the future. He issued four 128 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: historic executive orders on nuclear energy. America will be the 129 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 5: center of the nuclear energy renaissance in this country. And 130 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 5: one more thing, Larry AI, America under President Trump is 131 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 5: the AI capital of the world. That's bringing in trillions 132 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 5: of investment, that's bringing in millions of jobs. 133 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: Ok, you gotta stop this stepee like I'm in some 134 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: sort of fever dream because I just you know, I 135 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: don't want to accuse anyone of lying, but it feels 136 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: like he is not telling the truth on one issue 137 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: you after another. Let's start with the Thanksgiving dinner being cheap. 138 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: Rice is going down. 139 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: We had the whole the whole segment we did a 140 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: couple days ago where you were you were revealing the 141 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: data that shows how much more expensive it's going to be. 142 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: Right. 143 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: Well, and they were saying they're talking about the Walmart 144 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: prepackaged Thanksgiving dinner smaller. Well, it's smaller, you're getting less 145 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: items and you're not getting name brand items in it either. Cool. 146 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: This is what it's kind of like shrinkflation. 147 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what enrages people. It's like you're you're 148 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: getting so cute with the truth because you can technically 149 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: buy the letter of the whatever, make it work. But 150 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: people aren't stupid like they go shop like these politician 151 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: guys act like people don't go to the grocery store. 152 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: You can say whatever you any. They say it with 153 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: such confidence, like it's cheaper. Yeah, you're getting a lot 154 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: less stuff. 155 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: Somebody sent me a note and they said, h coffee, laundry, detergent, tissues, 156 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: and dish soap. 157 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: Four items. Yeah, eighty eight dollars. 158 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: This is what enrages people, is these and both sides 159 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: do this, the Republicans and Democrats because Biden was doing 160 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: it for years under his presidency. They want to act 161 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: like you're not living your life. They would act like 162 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: you don't go to the grocery store. They would act 163 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: like you don't pay the bill, that you don't see 164 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: the receipt get printed out. Like it's just it is 165 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: maddening to hear that guy say that and do it 166 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: with such conviction. 167 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: Okay, and let's talk about electricity and wattage. 168 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: Yesterday, you know I had. 169 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: Mentioned how elong Musk had said that wattage is going 170 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: to be the new currency. And the guy who tagged 171 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: you on X talking about his electric bill for November 172 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: used three point five percent less electricity in twenty five 173 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: than in twenty four. However his bill is sixteen percent higher, 174 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: using less yet costing more. 175 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, has there been any headline that you 176 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 3: can remember in the state of Indiana in the past 177 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: year which the headline read electric rates go down? 178 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: Or the past two years? 179 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: It's silly for the past three years, right, It's so 180 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: illogical when he says that nothing's getting more affordable. And 181 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: these people in the Trump administration and Trump himself, it's 182 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: like they have their head in the same going. If 183 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: we just say it enough, people will believe it, but 184 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: they live it every single day. You can't make people. 185 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: You can lie or manipulate or half truth or prop 186 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: up things people don't see every single day, but you 187 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: can't do it with when you're going and paying for 188 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: stuff like that is what is so insulting. It'd be 189 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: one thing if they said, look, this stuff is still 190 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: totally unaffordable. We have tried to address it clearly. What 191 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: we're doing isn't working. We're gonna come up with a 192 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: new approach on this. We're gonna do a B and C. 193 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: Here's how we think it's gonna work. Okay, you admit 194 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: you did something. It hasn't worked. You're gonna readdress it 195 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: like we do in our lives, like we do in 196 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 3: our businesses. You're just lying to us and telling us 197 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: things that we know are happening aren't happening. And what 198 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to like you, I'm supposed to respect you. 199 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to say thank god you're there, Like, this 200 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: is what's making people angry. 201 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 4: Well, now you can get a fifth your mortgage on 202 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: a house in a fifteen year loan on a car, 203 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: You'll be in debt forever. But I mean what that 204 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: is is that's just an interest loan. Sure, a perpetual 205 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 4: loan on interest. 206 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: Mark Didle went through that with us on Tuesday about 207 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: how basically what we're back to is something that we 208 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: had before, and how did that work out for the 209 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: economy with the interest only loans. I think we had 210 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: those in the two thousands. How did the housing market 211 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: do at the end of the two thousands case not 212 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: so well. 213 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 4: Two thousand and eight. You might recall this this bubble bursting. 214 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: We're doing all the same stuff, the money printing, the 215 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: same policies. It's just anyway, Hey, lot going on. We've 216 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: got a bunch of moving parts now on this redistricting stuff. 217 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: We got two state lawmakers coming out against We've. 218 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: Got this special ses. 219 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: I guess it's not a special session anymore. The regular 220 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: session that's about to take place, a whole bunch of 221 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: state governments. 222 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 4: Nicky Kelly reporting that another GOP senator came out against 223 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: re districting. 224 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take a break, Nikkiau's going to join station. 225 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: We'll get on all the redistricting stuff and a whole 226 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: bunch more. 227 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: It's Kennerley Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 228 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: Well, Katy has. 229 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: Always there's so much going on in Indiana it comes 230 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: to politics, and yes there is. 231 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: Every year we're like, all the sessions over what in 232 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: the world would we ever talk about? 233 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 234 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: Right, and then these guys just keep giving us plenty 235 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: of things and talk about here to make some sense 236 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: of it all. 237 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: One of the best in the business. 238 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle joins us now 239 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: Nikki Kelly, Hello. 240 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 6: Good morning. 241 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: All right, So we are at. 242 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: Thirteen Republicans who have said they support this redistricting effort 243 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: in the Senate. They've got to get to twenty five. 244 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 3: Give us the latest. 245 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we heard from two Republicans this week, Eric Cook. 246 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 6: That's a bit one because Senator Cook actually was the 247 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 6: Senate sponsor of the maps in twenty one and so 248 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 6: him coming out basically saying we're going to readraw my 249 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 6: own products is kind of interested. He had a basic 250 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 6: one sentence statement that said he supports it. It didn't 251 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 6: explain why, but that's a big move. And then last night, interestingly, 252 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 6: Senator Jean Lesing, author Republican, came out against So now 253 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 6: we're up to six nose publicly. And she was basically 254 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 6: annoyed at a couple of things. A people committing to 255 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 6: passing something without seeing what it is because we have 256 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 6: no maps out there too as a proposal. She also 257 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 6: is annoyed about all the outside interests coming in and 258 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 6: I'm sure you guys have gotten them. I've gotten dozens 259 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 6: of pecs in the last couple of days. And pressured, 260 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 6: she says her fourteen year old grandson is even getting 261 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 6: them and she's just happy. She says her rural district 262 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 6: is against it, and she, you know, doesn't like the 263 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 6: tactics that are coming along with this discussion. 264 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: Have any of these lawmakers who are for it, have 265 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: they produced like a trove of emails or phone calls 266 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: or what like? I mean, obviously there have been the 267 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: town halls, and we've seen the people that are against it, 268 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: like at the Greg Good town hall. But have any 269 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: of these pro senators said, look, here's all this correspondence from. 270 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: All these people. 271 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 6: That's that I've seen Scenaria lysing even you know, said 272 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 6: that she she's apparently added up all the comments she's 273 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 6: been getting from her constituents and said only six percent 274 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 6: are in favor of the redistricting, at least from her 275 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 6: constituents side. 276 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: So Senator Lesning also says she would never vote yes 277 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: on a bill that she didn't know the contents of. 278 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: And we've been wondering that as well. What does the 279 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: map look like? 280 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Have you seen or heard anything? 281 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 6: I mean, there are a number of maps that have 282 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 6: floated in recent months because there are obviously programs you 283 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 6: can go online and create your own map, sure, but 284 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 6: in terms of an official map. No, no one has 285 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 6: seen that yet. I think that you can pretty much 286 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 6: figure it out. If you're gonna go for a nine 287 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 6: to ozer map, you know there's only a few ways 288 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 6: to do that and still keep it within range. So 289 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 6: uh yeah, I mean hopefully we'll see a map by 290 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 6: December first. 291 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully. Niki Kelly for the Capital Chronicles, our guests. 292 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: Let's talk real quick, because I'm getting the text messages. 293 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: You're getting them, many many other people are getting them. 294 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: There's like a bombardment now, these text messages about redistricting. 295 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: What do we know about the group groups plural that 296 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: are doing this. 297 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, there are a couple of groups. Fair Maps Indiana 298 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 6: is one that I wrote about, and they're at least 299 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 6: being open and transparent and saying who is behind the text. 300 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 6: They're trying to get people to find petitions to contact 301 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 6: their senators, that kind of thing. In addition to that, 302 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 6: Club for Growth out of DC is running TV ads 303 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 6: and more to sort of pressure Republicans. Now beyond that, 304 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 6: I've seen ads from a group out of Michigan, which 305 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 6: I have no idea why they're involved. I've gotten texts 306 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 6: from a group from a group or groups that have 307 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 6: no indication who they're from. So I'm not even sure 308 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 6: where some of those are coming from because they don't 309 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 6: contain a disclaimer. So there's a lot out there moving 310 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 6: parts right now. 311 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: Do you get a feel on where this is headed, 312 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: because they've got to get to twenty five? 313 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: They're at thirteen. 314 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: If you have been at this for six months and 315 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: the best you can get us to thirteen, I mean, 316 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: at what point is what are people waiting on? 317 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 6: They're clearly above thirteen in private conversations. I think they're 318 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 6: above twenty in private conversations people have told, you know, 319 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 6: someone privately, yes I'll vote for that map. But yeah, 320 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 6: organization day is next week, so everyone will be in 321 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 6: the building. Maybe we'll find out some more on where 322 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 6: the status is on that account. You know. I did 323 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 6: find amusing and Senator Licen's statement that she put out 324 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 6: last night she said she will be a no if 325 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 6: there is a vote. Was her quote? 326 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 5: Oh? 327 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Very interesting? 328 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: So you think though, that the thirteen is not the 329 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: actual number, You think that they are privately higher than thirteen. 330 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely, yes, I've heard It's funny. 331 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 332 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: One of the Nikky Kellor from the Capital Chronicle is 333 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: our guest. One of the things that's interesting to me, 334 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: and we got into this with Abdul yesterday. 335 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: We talked about this on State House Happenings. 336 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: The Republican Party now seems to be banning the media 337 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: or making them pay to go to their events. You 338 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: were part of this with the state Fall dinner. Have 339 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: you ever seen anything like this? 340 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 6: No, I've covered, you know, on both Republican side and 341 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 6: Democrats side over the years, you know, twenty some years. 342 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 6: I've covered a lot of spring dinners and fall dinners 343 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 6: and Lincoln Bay dinners you know, over the years, usually 344 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 6: more on the state side than the local And so obviously, 345 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 6: you know, when I reached out about going to the 346 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 6: Fall dinner, was surprised that it was closed because those 347 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 6: have been open in the past for the media. And 348 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 6: then again, you know, I also reached out about going 349 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 6: to a local event with both Governor Mike Brown and 350 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 6: Lieutenant Governor Mike be beckwith because they don't do a 351 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 6: lot of events together. So I was curious about, you know, 352 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 6: covering that, and was told that the local party I 353 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 6: believe this Owen County, had decided it was also going 354 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 6: to be closed. And so yeah, I mean, I guess 355 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 6: that's the new thing is to, you know, just gather 356 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 6: and talk all they want and not let anyone see 357 00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 6: what they're doing. 358 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: Have they given you a reason? 359 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: Did they tell you why? 360 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 6: Nope, just that they decided that it was a private 361 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 6: party event. 362 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: Keith Kelly from the Capital Chronicle is our guest, are 363 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: you to speak of the you mentioned org Day and 364 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: obviously that is coming out next week Organization Day? Do 365 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: you have any inkling of what the big issue other 366 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: than the redistricting is going to be for this upcoming session. 367 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: I mean, they keep talking about redoing the property tax bill. 368 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: What is going to be the thing once we get 369 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 3: past redistricting? 370 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, there will definitely be modifications to the 371 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 6: property tax reform that they did last year. They may 372 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 6: or may not have to make some slight adjustments to 373 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 6: state finances due to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. 374 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 6: We'll see how that kind of stuff is going. In 375 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 6: terms of Medicaid, whether we need to change anything on 376 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 6: Medicaid or snap. Other than that, it could be cash. 377 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 6: You know, there's not anything a major hanging out there. 378 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 6: I know they're not going to hit they won't be 379 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 6: tackling road funding. And a short session that's a little 380 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 6: too complicated. They seem to do a lot on healthcare 381 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: last year, so I'm not sure you know what's left there. 382 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: It's probably going to be what a short session is 383 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 6: supposed to be, which is sort of just the important, 384 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 6: not emergency, but necessary things you have to do in between, 385 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 6: and we'll see if we get any sort of ideological stuff. 386 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 6: I can definitely see some some movement on issues about, 387 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 6: you know, over the counter abortion drugs, things like that. 388 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: You had mentioned road funding and speaking of rolling down 389 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: the road, tell us about the new Indiana State Police fleet. 390 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's we had a reporter go out yesterday. They're 391 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 6: obviously replacing they're going to slowly phase in these Dodge 392 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 6: Rangdos to get rid of the Dodge Chargers, and they're 393 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 6: pretty excited about all the bells and whistles that come 394 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 6: with them and going back to making them blue instead 395 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 6: of white. They've been all white, well they were all 396 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 6: black for a long time and then all white, so 397 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 6: we haven't seen blue cars in quite a while, and 398 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 6: so they're pretty excited about it. And then they are 399 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 6: like a couple. I think only five Ford Mustangs that 400 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 6: will be around the state that they think could help 401 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 6: during you know, high speed pursuits or you know, we've 402 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 6: seen a lot of like drag racing incidents and so 403 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 6: they have those around the state now too. 404 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: Any reason why they were changing the. 405 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 6: Model, Oh, I mean, I think they just you know, 406 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 6: I don't know of any particular reasons. Uh just maybe 407 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 6: they got a great deal or or whatever. But they 408 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 6: they generally try to stick in that family and and 409 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 6: that we're going to the Durango now. 410 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: And how much does that cost? 411 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 6: I think they've ordered about about five hundred of them, 412 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 6: so twenty six million is what they've spent so far, 413 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 6: and they'll sort of slowly phase them in. I think 414 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 6: they started. They're starting with like twenty and then as 415 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 6: the Dodge chargers either let's say they get wrecked and 416 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 6: they're out of the system then or they hit certain mileage, 417 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 6: you know, once their mileage is too much, then they'll 418 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 6: you know, slowly work in the new Durrangos. 419 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: All right, well that's twenty six million. 420 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: But when it comes to Nicky Kellys Priceless Night Couple chronicle. 421 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 6: Thank you, thanks guys. 422 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: It is Kendally Casey on ninety three WIBC. 423 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: And an effort to be nicer in the way I 424 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: described things. 425 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to try this for this segment. 426 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: I like this idea, softer size, kend It's very uh, 427 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: it's very frustrating when you see government employees who are 428 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 4: largely insulated from the realities many of us face in 429 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: the economy, complaining because they're not getting more. 430 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: How about that? 431 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: That was very good? 432 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 7: Right? 433 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So what we're talking about is. 434 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. 435 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: There was a school board meeting and hamiled in Southeastern 436 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: last night, and these teachers are mad because they haven't 437 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: been able to come to an agreement on their contract 438 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: with the school board and they have done the head 439 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: honcho over there, whatever that guy's name was, Remember the 440 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: don't work outside your contract edict, like don't help kids 441 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 3: after hours. 442 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: Are you talking about the superintendent? 443 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm saying the union guy. Remember we 444 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: did this story. 445 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: Was it last week where they get he whoever it was, 446 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 3: I forget the guy's name, but he was basically saying, 447 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: do not work outside of your contract. Now we'll inflict 448 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: the pain on these kids until we get what we want. 449 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 3: And we were saying just how utterly ridiculous. This is 450 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: that you're supposed to be there to help the kids. 451 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: First of all, your contract isn't even up until November fifteenth, 452 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: and you're already issuing ultimatums and using these children, as 453 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: so often happens, as human shields unless they get there, 454 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: unless they get their way. And so there's a school 455 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: board meeting last night, and I don't you know they 456 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: WHR Many other news outlets have have coverage of this. 457 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 3: They didn't go into specifics on it, but these teachers 458 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 3: got mad and stormed out of the meeting and then 459 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: held some impromptu event outside the meeting. And Okay, I 460 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: get it that you're up to set, that you're not 461 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: getting a raise in this new contract. 462 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: And you're upset about rising healthcare costs. 463 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: Hi, welcome to the party, Welcome to life, Welcome to 464 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 3: my world, Welcome to Casey's world, Welcome to Kevin's world, 465 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: in which there's not just a magical money tree everywhere. 466 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: But because you work in the government, you think they're 467 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: supposed to be. I'm sorry. You may be doing a 468 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: great job, you may be exceeding expectations, but you know what, 469 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: you keep getting a check. Yeah, and you know what 470 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: you also get a retirement plan, and yes, healthcare is 471 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: going to go up, as it is for everyone. But 472 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 3: when you see these teachers screaming and huffing and puffing 473 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 3: and throwing temper tantrums. 474 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: By the way, your contract. 475 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 3: Isn't even up yet, people from the outside looking in go, 476 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: you're lucky to keep working, because how often do we 477 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: get the memo, hey, so and so is no longer 478 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: with the company. 479 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: How often does that happen? Here? 480 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: Budget cuts people who have There was just a guy 481 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: not too long ago who had been with our company 482 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 3: for like thirty and was a beloved figure of this company. 483 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: And you know what they said, we just can't afford 484 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: to pay this guy anymore. Thank you, good day. Nothing 485 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: the guy did wrong, No, it was a great employee. 486 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: That's the world. 487 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: And these people come off so aloof and out of 488 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 3: touch with reality when they're screaming about not getting raises 489 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: and threatening to not do their jobs or telling people 490 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 3: to not go above and beyond in their jobs, or 491 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. Because you see a variety 492 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: of different forms of this when it comes to governments 493 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: across the fruited plane, and you just go, I might 494 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: be sympathetic to you, but not anymore so. 495 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 4: There was one parent who tried to speak on behalf 496 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 4: of the teachers during this board meeting, and that person 497 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: was saying that educators were being asked to what amounts 498 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: to a pay cut next year. 499 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: Oh hi again, welcome to reality. Yes, welcome to the economy. 500 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: They will price themselves out of employment. 501 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: Well right, I mean, this is the reality of this 502 00:24:53,600 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 3: is that government employees are oftentimes insulated from the world 503 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: outside and what's going on, and the economy sucks right 504 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: now for those of us that have to make it 505 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 3: in the outside world. Now, look, we are doing fine 506 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: here because we produce for our clients, our clients being 507 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: our advertisers. But that's no guarantee. We put the numbers 508 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: out there, we produce, they advertise, we get to stay employed, 509 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: but we're one or two bad ratings books from them 510 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 3: going budget cut time. 511 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: How'd you guys do so? 512 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: And if you're a teacher, unless you do something egregious 513 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: under your contract, you'll keep getting your check, you'll keep 514 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: being employed. You're not forced to produce the way many 515 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: people in the real world are. And God bless people 516 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: who want to be teachers. God bless you the same 517 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: way people want to be police officers or firemen. But 518 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: I am really at my wits end casey on these 519 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: government people acting like they're better than everyone else, acting 520 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: like they should get special rules that the people who 521 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: pay their salaries don't get, and that they're entitled to something. 522 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: You are not entitled to anything. 523 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: So the board cut off that person that parent was 524 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: trying to speak on behalf of the teachers because they 525 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: said that it goes against the collective bargaining rules. 526 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: That's why he was cut off. 527 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: Well, and that's fine, But my point is, if I'm 528 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 3: a parent in hammeled In Southeastern I'm looking at this 529 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: going I pay all this money in property taxes. I 530 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: have a school referendum on top of that, so I'm 531 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 3: paying additional property taxes, and I pay all this income 532 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: tax and sales tax and everything else. And you guys 533 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: can't figure this out, like what's. 534 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Going on here? What am I paying for? 535 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 3: And I'm also pretty pissed off that I'm paying all 536 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: this money, and I've got these teachers screaming like little 537 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: children over the fact that they might have to participate 538 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: in the economy the same way everybody else does. 539 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 4: They did at one point have a tentative agreement which 540 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: increased benefits by one point one million, but it fell through. 541 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm sorry. The reality is that governments, artificially 542 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: for years, local governments, state government, federal government have been 543 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: on the gravy train because of the magical money printing 544 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: factory that was turned on and instead, again it comes 545 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: back to what we talked about to start the show, 546 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: those that accelerate Indiana Municipalities Group AIM where there's just 547 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: these river of tears from these local government people over 548 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: somebody getting ten percent discount on their property taxes. Yeah, 549 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 3: we've paid enough. I'm sorry at this point, I've paid enough. 550 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: My property taxes went up every single year that I've 551 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: owned my home, and nobody's cried for me, and nobody said, 552 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: oh man, what about Rob And the same thing has 553 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: happened to you. Nobody said, oh what about Casey. Yet, 554 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: when Nick can these teachers can leverage the future of children, 555 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: we're supposed to somehow treat them as sympathetic figures or victims. 556 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not doing that. 557 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: You should play in the economy the same way I 558 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: have to play in the economy, and we should all 559 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: play by the same rules, and right now it sucks. 560 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: I'm currently going through something similar with my deal. I'm 561 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: working on a new contract. Do you see me coming 562 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: on here every day throwing a fit to our audience 563 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: because I'm not getting exactly what I want. No, I'm 564 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: showing up here and producing and going. My employer and 565 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: I will continue to work this out, will come to 566 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 3: some sort of agreement, or we won't. My job is 567 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: to do my job. I don't want people to feel 568 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 3: sympathetic for me. There are recourses if we can't come 569 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: to an agreement. 570 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 8: Do your job, support the kids, teach the class. 571 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: And by the way, there's some remediator. If this doesn't work, 572 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: they go to remediation. It's not like nobody's getting paid, right, God, 573 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 3: it's just it's it's infuriating. 574 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 4: But because it involves children, your children, they think, oh, 575 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 4: people are gonna. 576 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: Sure, and many people will be stupid enough to buy 577 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: it and go along with it. 578 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: That's the society we live in. 579 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you want to talk about John Fetterman's new memoir, 580 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 4: his book, Let Me Guess? 581 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: Can I take a guess what it's called? I'll take 582 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: a stab at it? Sure, bo bah bah bah Bah. 583 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: Unfettered, unfettered. He was, he was on CNN. 584 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: I should have called it high good night everybody. 585 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: That would have been a good one. 586 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: He was speaking with CNN and they were talking about it, 587 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: and the question was asked, which party did he find 588 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: more offensive? 589 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: The right of the left. And this is what he 590 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: said right about that. 591 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 7: In your book, you said quote, I've drunk deeply of 592 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 7: the venom of both the left and the right. As 593 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 7: a connoisseur, I can confirm that the most poisonous, the 594 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 7: bitterest is from the far left. That is pretty remarkable 595 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 7: to hear you say that as an elected Democrat. 596 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 9: Why yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you know, it's been it's 597 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 9: just been my personal experience on this thing. And when 598 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 9: I asked my digital team, I said, you know, you're 599 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 9: were on all the platforms, you know, really, what's what's 600 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 9: kind of the harshest, what's kind of the most personal? 601 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 9: And the answer was immediately said, oh, blue Sky, It's 602 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 9: blue Sky. The difference is, I mean, the right would 603 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 9: say really rough things and names, you know, some names 604 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 9: I won't I won't repeat on TV. But but but 605 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 9: the on the lift, it was like they want me 606 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 9: to die, or that we're cheering for your next stroke, 607 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 9: or that's terrible that depression want why couldn't it depression one? 608 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 9: And and I hope your kids find you. Uh, I 609 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 9: mean they even have like the graphic a gift they 610 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 9: have like a stroke you know, you know, in your. 611 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: Head and sharing it. 612 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, and and they said that I remember one. They 613 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 9: claimed the doctor let us down, and why did they 614 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 9: have to save his life? 615 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: So he said his own party is more venomous. 616 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: Well, okay, first of all, they get to him some credit. 617 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: That was pretty coherent, So a good job on him. 618 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: Those appear to be something that resembles sentences and thoughts, 619 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: So good on him. But it also like it's some 620 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: news flash to him that the people that you were 621 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: in bed with for year and dependent on to get 622 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: you elected are really. 623 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: Rotten, nasty, horrible people. 624 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, newsflash, Casey, social media is 625 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: a cesspool of suck. 626 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he doesn't know that. His staff told him that. 627 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: All Right, Hammer's next. 628 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: It's Kennelly Casey on ninety three WYBC. 629 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: Jason Hammer on half of the Hammer and Nigels Show 630 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: joins us. 631 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: Now, Hello, we. 632 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 8: Got another podcast coming out today NFL edition of the Degenerates. 633 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: Next Door Rob, this is the last year I'm taking 634 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: those Monday night football games. They're just awful. 635 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 8: I always trade you the Thursday night game. I get 636 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 8: stuck with the Thursdays. You want to have the Jets, Buddy, 637 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 8: go ahead and knock yourself out. 638 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but at least you get the Patriots like I 639 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: get the Cowboys and the Raiders. 640 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: That is one of my favorite games of the weekend. 641 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I would listen. 642 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 8: It's not official play for me because I don't do 643 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 8: the Monday night game on our podcast, but I'll tell 644 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 8: you now, if you can get the Cowboys right now 645 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 8: at three and a half, take it. 646 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: Because the Raiders, well great. 647 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: You just anytime we have the same play, it's gonna lose. 648 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: So now you can have a dose of at bow. Hey. 649 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: We'd like to thank all the people who nominated me 650 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: to the Brownsburg High School Hall of Fame. 651 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Yesterday, I am in the mix. 652 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 8: I posted my screenshot of when all things were complete. Yeah, 653 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 8: very kindly of you, even though I really despise you 654 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 8: in many ways. 655 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: It's amazing the amount of people who did that. 656 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: I'll actually retweet that here in a little bit at 657 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: Robin Kendall, even Eddie Garrison from the fans that hey, 658 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: I put you in there. A lot of people want 659 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: those rejection letters. It's really a yearly thing we do 660 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: on this program, and it's one of my favorite bits 661 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: we do. 662 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 8: So remember in shaw Shank where every year Read would 663 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 8: go in there and you know, he'd have his review 664 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 8: and it would. 665 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: Be denied, denied, denied, and. 666 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 8: Then one year he just completely changed it up and 667 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 8: it was approved. So maybe next year we just put 668 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 8: in there. You know what, don't put Rob in the 669 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 8: Hall of Fame. 670 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: I don't care if they do. 671 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: We don't want him in there. 672 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: People Robin Gordon Hayward on in there. The whole thing 673 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: is stupid. 674 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we got to get picked some sort of 675 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 3: protest like the Hamlet South the Eastern teachers are doing. 676 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: Maybe we could have that outside the Yeah, do that. 677 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 8: There you have Rob Kendall Knight at a Browns Book 678 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 8: Brownsburg football game. 679 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: Next year, Rob Kendall Knight. 680 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 8: Everybody's got a mask or some sort of sign and 681 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 8: Rob rally towel. 682 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: For the Hall of Fame. 683 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's uh yeah, anyway, Uh, you save people one 684 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars and everyone goes ballistic, Right, isn't that amazing? 685 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: Like you're the bad guy. Yeah, Like I'm the bad 686 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: They did all this stuff they were gonna. 687 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 3: Do anyway, all this construction they were gonna do anyway, 688 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: They didn't spend one hundred million dollars, didnt raise tax 689 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: about a hundred million dollars, And somehow I got basically 690 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: like I'm Joe Jackson in Field of Dreams, like I'm 691 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: banished for life, like. 692 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 8: And that is an amazing feat. But we know we 693 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 8: love sports in the state. And I still can't believe 694 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 8: Gordon Hayward is not in this. 695 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Andrew Storin Drew Storren, major. 696 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 8: League Baseball guy entrepreneur, has got one of the most 697 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 8: popular new whiskey lines in the country, his Field of Dreams. 698 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: It appears there's some disconnect on how they're doing the 699 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Not to besmirch the people that are in, 700 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 3: but nobody's heard of most of these people, like right, 701 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean anyth against them. They probably had 702 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: fabulously nice lives. But when you're thinking about the upper 703 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: echelon of people who have gone to Hall of fame. 704 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 3: It's a fame, right, I'm not even having to get 705 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: for myself on this what I'm saying, Like you would 706 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: think of the lady that was just in the Olympics, like. 707 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: Maybe she would be a part of it again. I 708 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: feel like Gordon Hayward. 709 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 8: I keep going back to him because he hit a 710 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 8: game winning shot for Brownsburg. 711 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: If that doesn't warrant fame, I don't know what not. 712 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but in the grand scale, saving someone one hundred 713 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: million dollars is way ahead of some guy who hit 714 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: a shot in a basketball game. 715 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: True, I think you should be into thank you. Neither 716 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: one of you are in. Yeah, we're both losers. Let's 717 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: come again this afternoon. I made my Hall of Fame. 718 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 8: Next Brian Pasma this afternoon? 719 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: What is it off the rail? Yeah, that's right, you're 720 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: to talk to you again. That sucks. 721 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 4: Sammer's Kennily Casey on ninety three WIBC