1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Former Vice President Dick Cheney has died at the age 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: of eighty four, And as you can imagine, social media 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: is just gross Tony Katz, Tony kats today, good to 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: be with you. It is not my want or not 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: my take, not my place. I'm not dancing on graves. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how other people act react, how many 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: of them are engaged in just a conversation. If you 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: just are you know, all the planets ooh, Dick Cheney 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: means bad, right, Dick Cheney means Darth Vader. And it's 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: some kind of Pavlovian response. If there's some serious issue, 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that for others. Man, I got nothing, 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: I got nothing. You want to talk about the war 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: in Iraq, you want to talk about Halliburton, you want 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: to talk about where money goes and how money gets spent. 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm all in on it. But people who are just 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: like in so many ways social media. It's not just 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: about how ugly you can be. It's about desiring to 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: be the most ugly. And if I'm being asked no thanks, 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm not interested. What I am interested in is this 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: conversation about power. I am very much interested in the 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: conversation about what it means to have power, to wield power, 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: and to be okay with saying so. Certainly, on the 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: conversation of redistricting, which is the conversation of power, it 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: comes into play. And then you've got people like Eric 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Holder talking about packing the courts. They're still talking about 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: packing the courts, to which I argue, if you want 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: to see the court get packed, let's go to work. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Right now. You control the Senate. You want to see 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: the play where the filibuster gets nooked for taxical advantage. 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Wait till we add twenty five different conservatives to the court. 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: You watch what happens. Understand that the left has no 32 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: problem problem with power whatsoever. And I've got much more 33 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: that I'll be discussing on that. But when we talk 34 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: about the geopolitics, we talk about President Trump and visible leverage, 35 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: the idea of showing what power is. Power is seen 36 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: in many different ways. There is the absolute show of power, 37 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: and then there's the decision to limit power. We saw 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: one of those decisions in relationship to China. When you 39 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: saw the UK and Canada. This was when Biden was 40 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: allegedly president of the United States, and they decided they 41 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: were not going to let China control five G, controlling 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: the protocols regarding five G, which would be the Internet 43 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: of things and how many processes work. And they said, 44 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: of groups like Huawei, you cannot operate in our country 45 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: hwa wi, and both Canada and the UK said we 46 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: are not going to utilize their products. We're not going 47 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: to allow ourselves to be taken the hostage. So you 48 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: had Huawei in another group called ZTE. Those things were banned, 49 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: as reported back in twenty twenty two from the five 50 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: G Network of Canada, Good, excellent and smart. I then 51 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: saw this story. It was a social media post from 52 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: a group called Next to European Media. I don't know 53 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: much about them, one point two million followers. All right, 54 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: at least I'll take a look and then we can 55 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: dig in. The Israeli army has started taking away Chinese 56 00:03:51,000 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: made service cars from officers. Espionage risks officially confirmed. Huh. Well, 57 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: now I'm very very interested because people are gonna say, 58 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: oh man, Israel. Other people should be like, that's right, Israel, 59 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: that's right everybody. The military has strong reasons to believe 60 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: that built in camera sensors and communications systems in these 61 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: vehicles could collect data and transmit it to servers in China. 62 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: The Israeli Defense Ministry and the IDF have begun a 63 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: phased out. A phased phase out. Hundreds of vehicles are affected, 64 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: mostly seven seat when are known as Cherry model Chry 65 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: issued to officers with large families. Chinese cars are already 66 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: managementering military bases, and by early twenty twenty six, the 67 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: army plans to completely phase out their use. No Chinese 68 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: vehicles should be used anywhere. You're out of your mind. 69 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 1: Good on the Israelis. We absolutely should be in this camp, 70 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: just like Canada was in the camp of banning Huawei 71 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: and Zte from controlling any protocols, any Internet protocols that 72 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: would put them in a position of disadvantage. Which brings 73 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: us to this story. When we talk about power to 74 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, Trump officials torpedoed in Vidia's push 75 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: to export AI chips to China. Damn straight. In Vidia, 76 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: the chip maker, which I believe as a market what 77 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: is the market cap now? Is it five trillion? Market cap? 78 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: In Vidia A full disclosure. I may own in Vidia 79 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: in a fund, I do not, as I know it, 80 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: own in Vidia as a separate individual stock. My guy 81 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: may have done it, I have never purchased that stock 82 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: at all. I like full disclosure. I think it's super important. Yeah, 83 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: the Nvidia market cap is five point zero three six trillion, 84 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: and their chips are the future of AI and we 85 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: are out of our minds if we sell those chips 86 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: to China. Now, this also brings in a whole conversation 87 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: about where President Trump is on China, because it is 88 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: clear and I think it is a worthy conversation, and 89 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: we've had it here before that China in his first 90 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean Trump in his first term was far more 91 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: aggressive about China than Trump is in the second term. 92 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: Maybe he's trying to different tactic, different tactic. And you 93 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: saw that Jijen Ping after Trump left the meeting. He 94 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, that guy with his taris screw 95 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: him with his pants on. And these people are ridiculous. 96 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: That's not the way you act in the world, right, 97 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: trying to give a lecture to the United States. What 98 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: else could you expect from Jijinping. These people aren't friends. 99 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin is not a friend. We have potential friends, 100 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: we have real friends, and then we've got people who 101 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: are clearly the enemy, and every rational person needs to 102 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: understand that China is indeed the China is the enemy 103 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: of the rational mind. China is the enemy of freedom. 104 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: China is the enemy the end. There is nothing else 105 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: to say. And yes, we would be arming our enemy 106 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: if we allowed AI chips to be utilized by the Chinese. 107 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: We'd be out of our heads. Now. We can already 108 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: argue some things that we're doing that are very, very wrong. 109 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: We are wrong to say that Chinese nationals can be 110 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: students in US universities. Nope, no, we shouldn't be welcoming 111 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: them at all. President Trump is wrong. Well that six 112 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: hundred thousand is the number. I don't know that specifically 113 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: from China or a yearly basis international students. But no, no, no, no, no, no, Well, 114 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: the universities get to charge these people full freight, and 115 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: so they're going to lose out of money. I don't 116 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: actually care, do you. This is a national security conversation. 117 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: You'll make a little less money, and we will not 118 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: educate the enemy. And we're certainly not going to give 119 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: them chips to utilize against us. What the idea that 120 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: in Nvidia could even think that this is possible is laughable. 121 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: I assume they turned to each other and said, well, 122 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: we're the shot. I must admit I'm more bothered by 123 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: the idea that you would even try. You know, it's 124 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: that idea of your a journalist, and you are given 125 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: a piece of information. You did not steal it, you 126 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: did not obtain it illegally, and the information is about 127 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: how American troops are going to move in a war effort. 128 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: Do you share that information? Now, maybe it's not that 129 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: dire and it's something else, but it could be close 130 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: to die. Do you share information that could hurt your side? 131 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: Because as a reporter and a journalist, your job is 132 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: to report, right, what do you do in those situations? 133 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: That one is at least you're balancing the fate of 134 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: the nation, if you will, versus free speech, which is 135 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,239 Speaker 1: also about the fate of the nation. In a conversation, 136 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: do you sell chips to the enemy? Well, sure, we 137 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: like free trade and you have the right to make money, 138 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: and we should want you to sell your chips to 139 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: whomever wants to buy your chips. And the other side 140 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: of it is, yeah, forget all that you can't sell 141 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: them to our enemy. You're out of your damn mind, 142 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: and if you try all, we're going to lower the 143 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: boom right all over your face. That's the answer. There 144 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: is an answer in the conversation about power. Do we 145 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: keep it or do we allow our adversaries to take 146 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: it from us? I put forth to you that we 147 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: keep it. In that scenario, we don't share it. We 148 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: don't allow ourselves to lose it. We not only have 149 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: harnessed it, we need to be able to utilize it. 150 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes the utilization of power is not about sending over 151 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: a missile or a bomb, or engaging in some type 152 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: of violent action. It is simply by saying, nah, we 153 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: don't do that. When when I say when, I state 154 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: to you as clear as I can that in Nvidia 155 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: has absolutely zero right to sell chips to China. I 156 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: mean it. But I can take myself out of this 157 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: conversation about AI chips and take it into medicines. We 158 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be manufacturing medicines in China. We're out of our minds. 159 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: They're stealing everything. We should stop immediately, just like we 160 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: worked Operation Warp Speed to build a vaccine. I know 161 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: some people are like that it was a terrible idea. 162 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't. Actually, it was a remarkable idea and it 163 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: was quite tremendous how we did it, and there is 164 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: a model there for how we can move in the 165 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: future to mobilize in our national defense and in our 166 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: national security. We manufacturing in the United States immediately. Now. 167 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: I do not favor the manufacture of medicinal products, the 168 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: manufacturer of drugs solely in the United States. I think 169 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: supply chains are real things, and if you should have 170 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: an issue in one place, you don't want it affecting everything. 171 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: You want to have manufacturing in multiple places. You want 172 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: to have redundancies, and you want to be able to say, 173 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: there's a major weather event here that's going to stop 174 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: production for X number days, weeks or months, But luckily 175 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: we have the production over here where there is no 176 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: weather events and we can keep things going and keep 177 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: your grandma alive. It should not be all in the 178 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: United States. That said, we should be mobilizing immediately to 179 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: manufacture our drugs right here in the US and pull 180 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: all drug manufacturing from China, and on the way out, 181 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: set the factories on fire. You think I'm kidding, No 182 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: part of me is kidding. There is no joke in 183 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: anything I say here, because this is a conversation about power. 184 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: If they control the drug supply, who's got the power? 185 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: You need oxygen, They've got all the oxygen. Who has power. 186 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: Part of our problem is that we have a gigantic 187 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: level of unseriousness about how it is we're going to survive. 188 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: It's as if no one has ever read a book. 189 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: The Chinese want total domination and we want to be 190 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: left alone. But we're not going to be left alone. 191 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: So we have to put ourselves in a best position 192 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: to be able to protect and defend ourselves and be 193 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: able to control our future. Then we could talk about 194 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: how badly we need to smack these low life sons 195 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: of guns around. When that moment comes, I personally believe 196 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: you can break them economically, and these are huge parts 197 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: of it. You can stick them economically, and the people 198 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: who were promised all this joy in communism will suffer. 199 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: And as they suffer, which you know, I'm sorry they're 200 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: gonna suffer, but it's them or us, and that's the 201 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: reality of the world. They will then turn on the 202 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: communist government and from there you might see a better 203 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Chinese future. But in the choice between concerns of future. 204 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: I'll worry about the future of my children, thank you. 205 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: And they are not Chinese nationals. They're Americans. And I'm 206 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: willing to bet the vast majority of people listening right 207 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: now your children are too, which means, regardless of any 208 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: differences we have, we do have that in common, and 209 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: that in common should very well be enough. We have 210 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: to win the fight against the enemy, and winning the 211 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: fight means levels of sacrifice. I am not in the 212 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: AI chip business, and I'm sorry if Nvidia might lose 213 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: some market cap from their five trillion plus market cap, 214 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: but so it goes can't sell to China and the 215 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: Israelis are right, you can't have Chinese cars on a 216 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: military base, or you out of your head. But then again, 217 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: you can't have Chinese cars. That's the ballgame. And while 218 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: you're making this big deal about making big deals on 219 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: the left, you gotta be taking away their financial opportunity 220 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: on the right. Power it is user or lose it. 221 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today.