1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Joining us on the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: He is with the Big Ten Network as they get 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: set to get underway, because everything getting underway and starting 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: tonight for the Big Ten Tournament, Oregon and Maryland and 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: then Northwestern and Penn State are the openers. And Dave 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Revsen joining us now to talk about that and more. Dave, 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: Happy March to you. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: Oh Man. So excited, Jake. This is for us. This 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: is kind of our super Bowl, as I think, you know, 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: these are the biggest live events that we have on 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 2: our air every year, you know, starting tomorrow night as 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: the first set of games for us, and then Thursday 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 2: and Friday all day. So just get so excited about it. 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be an amazing tournament 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: this year. The quality at the top of this league 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: is kind of staggering. There's some really good teams. 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Dave. When you think about the 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: fact that Purdue, who was kind of you know, I 19 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: mean virtually everyone. I don't think anybody had to Purdue 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: any lower than say the top five to begin the 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: college basketball season. Yet they're the seventh seed in the 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Big Ten Tournament, which is amazing to think about I 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: want to get to that in a second. By the way, Oregon, Maryland, Northwestern, 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Penn State, those are the opening games, those on Peacock, 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: But then everything gets set for the Big Ten Network tomorrow. 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Peacock is well involved, but 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Big Ten Network will have all of the coverage before 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: and after games. Dave, let's begin with this. When you 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: look at this conference and the vast nature of it. 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: We've talked a little bit about this, but for the 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: teams that will represent the Big Ten in the NCAA tournament, 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: is there a style of play that if you've gone 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: through the riggers of the Big Ten that you have 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: not yet seen? How many different kind of styles of 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: play do you think have been represented over the course 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: of the year. And I guess the reason I'm asking 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: that is is to say, if you're coming out of 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, what kind of team might give you 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: fits in March because it looks new to you. 40 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think it just depends on the team. But 41 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: to your broader point, Jake, the differences in style, I mean, 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: I do think we always kind of paint with a broadbrush, 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: and you know, the Big Ten was physical and was 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: a big man dominated league and all that. I mean, 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: there were different styles for sure, But I mean you 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: look at teams that love to get up and down 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: the court, and we have a number of those, Michigan, Wisconsin, 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: which I think is crazy given their history, but they 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: have completely changed the way that they play. You know, 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: Nebraska shoots a ton of threes as well, I U 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: shoots a ton of threes. You got you know, four 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: teams that more than half their shots come from behind 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: the arc. But then you have teams that play much 54 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: more methodical styles. I mean, Minnesota attempts the fewest shots 55 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: per game of any Power Conference team, and I was 56 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: right behind them. Minnesota's going to play zone, so you 57 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: see some of that. You've got teams that press in Oregon. 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: Oregon plays some zone as well. So again, like it 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: runs the gamut in terms of the styles of play, 60 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything you want have seen because 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 2: of the far flung nature of the league. Now, whether 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: or not you're good at it is another question. And 63 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: so that to me is an issue with some of 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: our teams where you kind of see, ah, this is 65 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: something that gives this team issues, right, Like I don't 66 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: think Illinois does a great job of containing quick guards 67 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: and that makes me worry a little bit about them, 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: just to pick an example of an elite team that 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: I think has an area that concerns me. So, but 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: you know, you know kind of where you stand. I 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: think coming out of the Big Ten, you know what 72 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: you need to work on because everything has been represented 73 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: in terms of styles of play and in terms of 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: figuring out what are we good at and what do 75 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: we need to work on? 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: You know, what do you think is the Dave Rebsen's 77 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: my guest from the Big Ten Network. Dave, you you 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: know obviously are breaking down games on the regular and 79 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: have throughout the course of the season, and you get 80 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk to guys that know and have 81 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: coached the game as well as anybody. What's been the 82 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: narrative that you've heard from them on where Purdue has 83 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: fallen short or just fallen short. It's a weird thing 84 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: to say, I realize, but you get what I'm saying there. 85 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: What's been the missing ingredient for Purdue? 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's defense. I mean I think it's defense on 87 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: the perimeter in particular. I think the guards have a 88 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: hard time keeping up with quicker guards, and then they 89 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: get in rotation and then they give up easy shots. 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: They don't really have rim protection. So I think it's 91 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: kind of a combination of factors. But I mean, you know, 92 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: it's it's interesting, like you look at this this stretch 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: here recently where they've struggled. I believe they are second 94 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: or third in the nation in offensive efficiency here over 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: the last you know whatever it is six games where 96 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: what they've lost four of them or you know, I like, 97 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: it's crazy, right, So it's not offense, like you have 98 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: the second or third most efficient offense in the country 99 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: in that stretch and you're still under five hundred. The 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: issue is defense. I mean, I just I think it's 101 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: that clear. We all know what's going on here. Matt 102 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: knows what's going on here, and he has said, hey, 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: it's on me that it was on me to get 104 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: it fixed. It's still on me to get it fixed, 105 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: and we haven't done it for whatever reason. So I 106 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: don't think it's any great mystery. I mean, you know, 107 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: you watch them play, like you know, they scored over 108 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: ninety points against Wisconsin and lost on Saturday. They haven't 109 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: scored over ninety points and lost the game since nineteen 110 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: eighty seven. I mean, it's insane. What's weird though, Dave, 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: thirty games in a row. 112 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: You know the thing that to me, that's perplexing, And 113 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: let me throw you a theory here and feel free. 114 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: And it wouldn't be the first time for you to 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: have to say, Jake, that's a dumb theory. Okay. But 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: but their perimeter guard, you know, their perimeter play defensively, 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: the personnel is virtually the same as it was a 118 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: year ago. But what's different is you have Oscar Cloff, 119 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: who you know, Listen, there are a lot of things 120 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: about Oscar Cluff I really really like, but I feel 121 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: like his the space that he takes, even though it's 122 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: obviously on the inside of the perimeter, that it changes 123 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: the operating areas defensively for some of their guards and 124 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: therefore instinctively being aware of where everyone is at the 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: same time has just gone off kilter and they've never 126 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: picked that up, and so they don't have their switches 127 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: and things like that there are half a step behind 128 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: because they're just having to move in different ways than 129 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: they did a year ago. Now, you tell me if 130 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: that's the dumbest thing you've ever heard. 131 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know enough to know, right. I mean, 132 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: I think it's obvious in watching them, and certainly and 133 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: talking to people, but just in watching them, right, the 134 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: guards get beat a lot off the dribble, and so 135 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: then again that puts them in weird spots where to 136 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: your point, you know, you're switching and you're trying to 137 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: catch up and you're kind of constantly behind the ball. 138 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: They weren't a good defensive team last year either. I mean, 139 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: let's just be honest, like that was the issue. Is 140 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: season to go too, it felt like they were going 141 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: to be able to fix it. Look, I think Jacobson's 142 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: part of it. Again, I hate to say it, but 143 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 2: he's just not the physical presence that they had hoped 144 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: that he would be. He's just not as strong as 145 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: he needs to be inside. His base isn't as strong. 146 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: So I think that's part of it too. I think 147 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: they envisioned that he would be a rim protector type. 148 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: And when I talked to Matt last year about why 149 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: isn't the defense where you expect it to be, he says, well, 150 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: you know, Jacobsen was going to be our guy, and 151 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: now we're a year later, and he hasn't really made 152 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: a difference either, So I don't want to point at 153 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: one person whatever. I think it's systemic. I think it's 154 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: the guards are an issue. And then you know, so 155 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: you had like Lance Show. Obviously you ad Edie, but 156 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: you had Jones, like you had guys who were quicker 157 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: on the perimeter a couple of years ago, and and 158 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: you just don't have it. So again, I think it's 159 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: a I think it's a function of several I think 160 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: it's systemic. I don't think it's one guy. I don't 161 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: think it's just Oscar. I don't think it's just you know, 162 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: Fletcher and and Braden Smith. I think it's everyone. But 163 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: it's obvious at this point that that's what it is. 164 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: And so can you fix it? You know, I just 165 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: don't know. I want to believe you can, because I 166 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: think the world of Matt and I respect the heck 167 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: out of the way he runs his program. I love 168 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: the fact they've got three seniors who stayed their entire career. 169 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you saw this thing that was 170 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: floating around last week where there's only twenty or twenty 171 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: one players in all of the power conferences who have 172 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: stayed four years at their respective institutions, and basically half 173 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: of them are in the Big Ten and three of 174 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: them are at Purdue. I respect the heck out of that, 175 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 2: and I want them to succeed and to win a 176 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: national championship their preseason number one. To your point earlier, 177 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: I just don't see it right now. I'd love to 178 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: be wrong, but I don't see it. 179 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: Dave rebson my guest Big Ten Network, where you can 180 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: see his coverage and all of their coverage for the 181 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: Big Ten tournament. All right, Dave, the team in the 182 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: Big Ten right now that I mean, we're gonna take 183 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: Michigan out of the equation because they've been outstanding all year. Right, 184 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: But the team that you look at and you say, 185 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: you know what, kudos to them because they have gelled 186 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: at the right time and maybe clicking on all cylinders 187 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: more so than any other team right now, that would 188 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: be who. 189 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not great at answering questions, just because I've 190 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: spent the last twenty years asking similar questions to Donardo 191 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: and he can never answer with just one team. So 192 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to take a little bit of his lead here. 193 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with two. I'm gonna say Michigan 194 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: State I think is really coming together. And I was 195 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: actually really encouraged in watching them over the weekend, even 196 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: though they lost to Michigan. I thought they played him 197 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: toe to tow. I think the bigs have really gotten 198 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: better in Cooper and Cohler, And again Cooper's another one 199 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: of those guys in Cohler, two who have stayed four years, 200 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: who believed in a system, who developed and turned into 201 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: better players. So I think they're bigs are better and 202 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: they're shooting the ball better than they did last year 203 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: by far. Like last year, the key issue was as 204 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: good as they were and they won the league by 205 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: three games last year the regular season, but when push 206 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: came to shove, they just didn't have any outside shooters. 207 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: They're better this year by about five percentage points and 208 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: their bigs are better. So to me, they're one team. 209 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: The other is Wisconsin. I'm a little reticence totally get 210 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: behind Wisconsin just because I think they have some of 211 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: the same issues that Purdue does. I don't think they're 212 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: a great defensive team, but guards win in March and man, 213 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 2: the combination of guards that they have in Boyden Blackwell 214 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: is phenomenal. I think Boyd's incredible. So that to me 215 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: is is, you know, two teams. Again, I might lean 216 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: if you forced me to pick one up at lean 217 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: Michigan State, but I really like what Wisconsin's got going 218 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: to And again that doesn't mean, you know, obviously I 219 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: love Michigan. I think he'll always got a chance. I 220 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 2: think Nebraska's got a chance. But hey, you know, the 221 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: two that I feel like are maybe best constructor of 222 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 2: those two aside from Michigan. 223 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: If they were to win against the winner of Northwestern 224 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Penn State I'm talking about Indiana and then force themselves 225 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: into a matchup with Purdue. Does one Big ten tournament 226 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: win get Indiana into the Big Dance? 227 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, this is more of a de Coursey question in 228 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: talking to him, Like the bubble's terrible, as I'm sure 229 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: you know, and all these teams just keep losing and 230 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: losing and losing, So that helps IU. If you can 231 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: make a little noise the Northwestern Penn State winner does 232 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: you no good at all. Although Northwestern you know, oddly 233 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: it was a quad one road win for people this year, 234 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: but still so they're not if you lose to them, 235 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: it's not terrible If you lose to Penn State, it's over. 236 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: But it's not gonna help you. Beating Northwestern isn't going 237 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: to help you, even though the road game help people. 238 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 2: This year, they've got to beat Purdue and then I 239 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: don't know, I mean, yeah, you have two wins over Purdue. 240 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: Now Purdue isn't seen as we've already discussed, doesn't seem 241 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: the same way as they were perceived at the beginning 242 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: of the year. But it would certainly put Indiana in 243 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: the discussion, no doubt. If they don't win at least 244 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: one game, it's over. And then if they win two games, 245 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: you know, let's see where it goes. 246 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: Dave, lastly, what's your favorite thing about March? Just about 247 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: tournament time, not just a Big ten tournament, but the 248 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament in general. What about the magic of March 249 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: is most appealing to Dave Revsen? 250 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: Well, as you know, I think we're all kind of 251 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: products of where we came from. And for me, I 252 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time traversing the country with Doug 253 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: Gottlieb calling low and mid major games. You know, that 254 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: was kind of our niche. These championship games. I mean, 255 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: there was one year, I think we did. We sent 256 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: five keeams to the tournament in six days, and so 257 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: I really love that aspect of it. Like I love 258 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: the one big leagues and teams. Again, I don't love 259 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: the huge upset. Like you know, I think some of 260 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 2: these leagues have to rethink what they're doing. The Missouri 261 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: Valley would be first and foremost. I mean, you know, 262 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: Belmont just like I don't know how you put Belmont 263 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: in that spot. But I love those leagues so as 264 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: much as you know, covering the big ten and you know, 265 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: in the end, obviously I want to break through it 266 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: and win a national championship like this week, this time 267 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: right now. I actually love the low and mid majors 268 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: because it's kind of where I came from, and it 269 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: is I always looked at it as it was such 270 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: a privilege, like these kids were going to be on 271 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: national television one time, maybe in their entire lives, and 272 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: I had the chance to call that game, and I 273 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: always like put so much into it to make sure 274 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 2: that I knew their stories and I understood the significance 275 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: of High Point in Troy and all these places that 276 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 2: you'd never think about until you came to this time 277 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: of year. So that's my answer again, like I love 278 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 2: the first two days of the tournament. To me, those 279 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: are the two best days of the year. But like 280 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: if this week, if we're talking about this week it's 281 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: a low in mid May. 282 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, I mean, like I said, I went last 283 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: night to the Horizon League semi finals at the Coliseum 284 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: to watch Robert Morrison Detroit Mercy and so back and 285 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: forth game. But it was awesome because like every guy 286 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: on the bench is jumping up down with every three. 287 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's something there. There is something still to 288 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: be said about, you know, getting away from the big 289 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: business of it and seeing still the passion and the 290 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: dream for a lot of guys. But it exists within 291 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: the Big ten as well. Big Ten Tournament will get 292 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: underway today and then Big Ten Network will have games 293 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: live starting tomorrow. Dave Rebson will be working round the 294 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: clock on all of it, and still managed to squeeze 295 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: in time for a couple of my dumb questions. Dave 296 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always, go white Sox. 297 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: All right, I'm my friend, be good. That's a lost 298 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: cause even I appreciate it. 299 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm getting ready to buy my tickets for 300 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: our single game, and I'm thinking. 301 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: Oh, you gonna scoop those up? My goodness, I mean 302 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: you that does Now what do you have? They gone 303 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: on sale yet? What are we waiting for? I have? 304 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm set for push alerts. They make their money off me. 305 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: That's it, entirely me. 306 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: They probably laugh every time they get your orders. Yeah 307 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: does he not know about. 308 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: That's true, and then they email me a thousand times 309 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: in the off season. Appreciate it, Dave Dave repsen joining 310 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: us from the Big ten network. 311 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: I love it.