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Speaker 1: Casey. It is the story that has rocked the State House,

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Speaker 1: and it is this allegation that artificial intelligence was made

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Speaker 1: and then shared in some capacity inside the Lieutenant Governor's

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Speaker 1: off his artificial intelligence pornography of a state Reps wife.

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Speaker 1: We've covered it at link the last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: We had Tom Lobiancle who broke the story on yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and now the state Reps whose wife is allegedly at

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Speaker 1: the center of this, has come out and commented on it.

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Speaker 1: His name is Craig Haggard. Indy Star had a big

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Speaker 1: story on this today that he was featured in and

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Speaker 1: Craig Haggard State Rep represents part of Johnson County, part

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Speaker 1: of Hendricks County, and he now joins us on the

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Speaker 1: WIBC hotline to get the latest on what's going on

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Speaker 1: with this. Craig Haggard, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I guess first to start up one,

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Speaker 1: how is your wife doing? Because she is the person

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Speaker 1: like obviously your name's in this, it's the Lieutenant Governor's office,

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Speaker 1: it's high ranking people in his office. It's all these

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Speaker 1: high profile people, but your wife is really allegedly the

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Speaker 1: victim here in this because she's the person who allegedly

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Speaker 1: this was done to How is she doing well?

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Speaker 2: And I think you're you know, you're correct. It's not

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Speaker 2: about me or anybody else at this point. I'm a

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Speaker 2: embarrassed and her doesn't know what to think. I mean

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, And now you're saying,

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Speaker 2: and what happened or what's reported to happen, is alleged,

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Speaker 2: But what's not alleged is that she is a victim

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Speaker 2: in this. Whether the video did happen, whether somebody's making

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Speaker 2: it up for a talitory reasons, she is a victim

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Speaker 2: in this. And that's that's why. Unlike other times when

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Speaker 2: people say stuff about me or other politicians, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: it's our job. But I'm here as a husband and

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the bottom of this, a

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Speaker 2: other people. This is a serious allegation, a serious crime.

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Speaker 1: How did you become aware that this video is too

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Speaker 1: alleged to have existed.

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Speaker 2: I was actually driving with my family on Saturday and

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Speaker 2: I got a call from Tom Lobianco and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: he was doing a story and it involved my wife

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Speaker 2: that's the first I heard of this.

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Speaker 3: Did you speak with Tom about it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I started pressing him with questions and

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Speaker 2: you know who said this? Who said that?

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Speaker 1: Who did this?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen this video? I was just I was confused.

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Speaker 2: My wife was sitting next to me, going what is

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Speaker 2: trying to get more information. I think, like everybody else,

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Speaker 2: I'm just as much much in the dark about this

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Speaker 1: Craig Haggard is our guest. He's a state rapp rep

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Speaker 1: represents part of Hendricks County Johnson County. His wife is

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Speaker 1: at the center of these allegations that the Lieutenant Governor's office,

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Speaker 1: people in the Lieutenant Governor's office were sharing artificial intelligence pornography.

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Speaker 1: I think the other part of this, Craig, that is

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Speaker 1: intelligence part of this, it was altered off of a

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Speaker 2: Right, she was singing and she I think this was

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Speaker 2: the third year. There's an event called Who's Your Idol?

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Speaker 2: And it's a charity event for Mental Health America. It's

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Speaker 2: a great event, great cause, and she does this every

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Speaker 1: I guess have you have you talked to the House

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Speaker 1: Have you talked to Have you talked to those people?

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Speaker 1: Where are they at with us? Are they going to

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Speaker 2: Well, definitely, Speaker Houston reached out to me, and it

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Speaker 2: I was obviously I made a strong statement about individuals

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Speaker 2: to be disappointed in the coming to the response coming

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Speaker 2: and we need to get to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 2: We need to let everybody know in a transparent, independent

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Speaker 2: AI is a national issue. We've seen stories where young

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Speaker 3: Representative Craig Haggard is joining us. It's being reported that

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Speaker 3: you have spoken to the Marion County Prosecutor's office and

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Speaker 2: I have spoken with him about that, and they wanted

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Speaker 2: to know the same thing question you're asking me, Hey,

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Speaker 2: seen anybody who's seen this? Have you seen this? Those

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Speaker 2: I don't know where that investigation is going to lead

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Speaker 1: Craig Haggard, as you said our guest Casey, he's the

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Speaker 1: state rep. His wife is allegedly at the center of

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Speaker 1: Micah Beck with the Lieutenant governor, made a very definitive statement,

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Speaker 1: I believe that this didn't happen. We investigated it, and

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Speaker 2: Mike has reached out. I've talked to him a couple

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Speaker 2: People will be fired if if this stuff turns out

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Speaker 2: we're an open book. We don't tolerate this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm curious, after you've been experiencing this, will it guide

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Speaker 3: you in any way to have this become part of

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Speaker 2: I think all of our platforms in some in some

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Speaker 1: We'll get chattered with this. Has it been hard to

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Speaker 1: Has this been hard to do? I think a lot

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Speaker 2: Well, I tell you it's not. I don't know it's hard,

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Speaker 1: Craig is minders saying it's gonna be with this next

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Speaker 1: want to say that's not as anything to do with this,

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Speaker 1: you spoke at our rally. Course one of those guys did,

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Speaker 1: did want again say thank you his first time I

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Speaker 1: think you've been on our show since that for standing

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Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate it. I just believe it's standing up

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Speaker 1: All right, Craig, Yeah, keep us posted and obviously tell

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Speaker 1: you're right for thinking about her, and we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: Care of guys,