1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Line from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: So Texas did it, and now California is like, well, 4 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: we're going to do it and we'll show you it's 5 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: not the way it works. It's a political process, and 6 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: if Texans want to redistrict, they can. It's up to them. 7 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: But now in California, for ten million California voters who 8 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: did not have the chance to vote on this and 9 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: have their voices heard into now, you might be wondering 10 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: who does that include. We got a couple of people 11 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 3: on the floor today, my Republican colleagues from Tularry and Clovis, 12 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: my Democrat colleagues from San Jose and La. None of 13 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: them were old enough to vote on this in twenty ten, 14 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: and I think they should get the chance to vote 15 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: on it this year. 16 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: They're talking about redistricting. I've made my argument. We will 17 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: see how it plays out. My argument is it is 18 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: a political process. Texas decided to do it, engage in 19 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: the redistricting. It is up for the voters of Texas 20 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: to see how this plays out, to see if they 21 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: like it or don't like it, and then maybe to 22 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: vote for or vote against the legislators that were in 23 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: office who engage the redistricting. What California is doing, that's 24 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: retribution for the sake of party, not for the sake 25 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: of the people. As a matter of fact, they are 26 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: saying for the people. Be damned. Listen to the former 27 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: senator from Missouri, Claire mccaskell. 28 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 4: Claire, you talked about the district's being drawn, and it's 29 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: just it's so unrepresentative, and it's so so insane. And 30 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you just for parties 31 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: the other party to do the same thing in other states, 32 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: and so so. 33 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: Here we go. No, no, no, no, no. The people of 34 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: Texas can say whether they like it or not. You 35 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: encourage people to do in other states what they have 36 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: no self control. It's Texas's issue. What do they care? 37 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: What you're saying is party first. Now you can all argue, well, 38 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: Trump wanted five more votes. Maybe he did. Texas looked 39 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: at their lines and looked at their situation and said, 40 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: there's an issue here. This isn't drawn properly, bad census 41 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, a whole host of things. That's up 42 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: to them. Why is it up to California to make 43 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: things right. Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, good to be 44 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: with you find everything at Tony kats dot com. If 45 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: I didn't already say that, I forget. Sometimes Senator mccaskell 46 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: answering the question from Joe Scarborough on Mso, who what cares? 47 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: What they call themselves? Again? 48 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: And you know that's I've said a four I'll say 49 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: it again. 50 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: People people always ask, hey, why. 51 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: Are things so divided in Congress? Say it goes back 52 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: to jerrymandering. 53 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's that simple. 54 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: I wish we could I wish the court could could 55 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: revisit this. 56 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: I mean this is so insane. 57 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: Or I wish we could have a constitutional amendment that 58 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: would actually, you know, end jerrymandering in the United States 59 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: Congress and on state levels. 60 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: It would make such a. 61 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: Huge difference in the political discourse out there. 62 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Maybe it would Joe Scarborough, but it doesn't exist right now. 63 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: So this is about fantasy. The reality is here, yees. 64 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: Safe seats. 65 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 5: Safe seats in the House create gridlock because the only 66 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 5: thing a congressman or congresswoman worries about is a primary. 67 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: It is a. 68 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 5: Disincentive to compromise, It is disincentive to long term legislation 69 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 5: that actually businesses and citizens can rely on because it 70 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 5: swings back and forth based on who has the majority. 71 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: So this is bad for government, but that the answer 72 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 5: to what Texas is doing is not for us. You 73 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: know who say it's bad for government to bring our. 74 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: Hands and go, oh, it's bad for government. 75 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 5: It's to like, Okay, fine, you want to do it, 76 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: let's dance, let's go. Let's redraw every single state we 77 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 5: can as Democrats to create more democratic seats. 78 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: I accept your challenge. What are Republicans waiting for? I 79 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: don't know. I have no idea what they're waiting for. 80 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: I have no idea why they're waiting. I don't know 81 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: what they think is going to happen, and I have 82 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: no idea what Republican thinks. Well, this is just we're 83 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: above this. No you're not. It's time to grow up. 84 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: Every Republican, every elected Republican in every state, what do 85 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: you think you're above? Democrats are going to do this, 86 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: they're advocating for this. If you want to argue that 87 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: Republican started the fight, well you could have just said 88 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: you disagree with them. They're not allowed to do this 89 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: in Texas that's the argument being made by the left 90 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: when they redistrict. It's fine when you redistrict, it's a problem. 91 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: Isn't that always the way they are when they do it. 92 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: It's perfect when you do it, it's an issue when 93 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: you do it. How dare you when they do it? 94 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: Why are you staring at us? Why you notice seeing 95 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: what we do? You're always staring at us. That's so weird. 96 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: You're always so obsessed with us. Oh my gosh. And 97 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: then they say it like that with the oh my 98 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: gosh that that comes into into play. I mean, I 99 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: MSNBC will prove it once again, Thank goodness. I'm here 100 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: to tell you what they're saying. Otherwise who would hear 101 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: what they're saying? Where Al Sharpton is out there once 102 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: again with the conversation of this is all just racist. 103 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: Redrawing the lines is racism. How about in California? Why 104 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: you why are you worried about what we're doing in 105 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: California every single time? 106 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 6: Or in rev We talked about it earlier in the show. 107 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: The way a lot of times, if you're calling Al 108 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: Sharpton rev, that's why not just wear a sign that 109 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: says IP sitting down but it's Jonathan Lemire, so yeah, 110 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: it might be accurate. 111 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 6: I spoke to it, sort of hope that Texas wouldn't 112 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 6: go through with us, because they themselves don't think if 113 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 6: this redistricting, this gemanory is a good idea. But now 114 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 6: that it's happening, they say, look, it's time to fight 115 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 6: fire with fire. And it seems like there's real momentum 116 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 6: here California and New York maybe beyond. I would argue, 117 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 6: not good for democracy, but Democratic Party doesn't it's have 118 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 6: a choice. 119 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 7: No. I think that it is real momentum because it 120 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 7: is clear that the districts they're going after are not 121 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 7: only Democratic, but they're mostly black or brown. And you're 122 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 7: dealing now with the whole question of the voting rights 123 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 7: and something that we've seen the Supreme Courtship alway. Now 124 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 7: we're seeing the actual moving of districts that has no 125 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 7: of sense of making sure we have racial balance and 126 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 7: balance that would show that we're representing a constituency. 127 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: Are you a citizen who lives in the district? There 128 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: you go. I must say that this constant conversation of 129 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: black and brown, and black and brown, everyone who's black 130 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: things alike it's insane. But that's the argument made by 131 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: Al Sharpton, that's the argument made by the left constantly 132 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: and consistently. And by the way, there are rules about 133 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: what districts need to look like, etc. But as we'll 134 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: get into the conversation, Ed Marcy of Hot Air will 135 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: join us in the next hour, the rules that were 136 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: put in place and these commissions that are put in 137 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: place to keep in place the jerry mandering that the 138 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: left had already done. When they did it, it was fine. 139 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: Now you want to do it, how dare you? If 140 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: you want to argue that jerry mandering is bad, Okay, 141 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: no argument, Go right ahead. If you want to argue 142 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: that it's against the law or it's bigoted, lame, not 143 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: against the law and not bigoted, they're well within their 144 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: rights to do it. Well, within this this redistricting conversation 145 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: and what will come from it, one has to also 146 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: note that while I do believe that Republicans need to 147 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: be doing this, they need to be doing this ten 148 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: thousand percent. They need to be doing this. You understand 149 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: this can backfire, right, Oh, this can all backfire. What 150 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 2: happens if you don't win, you redrew it and you 151 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: don't win in twenty twenty six. Oops. Real high stake 152 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: stuff really is. But the idea that Texas can't do 153 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: this is nutty, and the idea that California has to 154 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: do this in response is Gavin Newsom saying that the 155 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: people don't matter, the politics matter, which is what Gavin 156 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: Newsom has done with bed Bath and Beyond. Marcus Lamonis, 157 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: who owns bed Bath and Beyond, said they're not going 158 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: to open any more stores in or open any new 159 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: stores in California. Can't open a new store in California. 160 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: The climate, the business climate is just too difficult, too 161 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: many regulations. It just doesn't work. The Governor, Gavin Newsom, 162 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: instead of saying, hey, wait a second, we're a great 163 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: place to do business. What are you thinking of doing? 164 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: Let's talk? You should really be here, the governor writes, 165 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: the company that already went bankrupt and closed every store 166 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: across the country two years ago. Okay, the governor California 167 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: didn't say how can I bring more business in? Because 168 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: it's possible that Marcus Lamonas is speaking not just for 169 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,479 Speaker 2: bed Bath and Beyond, but for a lot of companies 170 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: that have issue building in California. The very first Fox 171 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: hit I ever did. I'm sorry now the first Fox hit, 172 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: the second Fox that I ever did. First Fox hit 173 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: was when Neil Cavudo about Arizona. The second one was 174 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: it was a Fox and Friends weekend. Dave Briggs was 175 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: doing the interview and it was a conversation about the 176 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: aerospace business in California and aerospace moving to Virginia. California's 177 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: aerospace and aerospace is California. It was the home of it. 178 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: I was living in La at the time and we 179 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 2: were talking then about businesses leaving and it's just continued 180 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: at an accelerated rate. And the left, which has had 181 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: the power, has not changed. And certainly Schwarzenegger didn't change anything. 182 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: They haven't changed. They've only made it more difficult. They've 183 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: only made the regulations and the environment more onerous. That's 184 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: all they've done. Notes this and instead of saying, hey, 185 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: how can we bring you here, Cavin Newsom goes for 186 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: the singer, He goes for the attack. Hey how can 187 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: I how can I get show you haha? I'll give 188 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: myself some likes on Twitter x And that's the way 189 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: to run a state or something crazy. Now, Lamona's responds 190 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: I thought your posts would suggest we bring business leaders 191 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: together to understand how to improve the four pillars and 192 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: friction of business and find a way to make it better. 193 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: You are a smart man, and I know the post 194 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: below is out of frustration. They are opening up three 195 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: hundred small to mid size bed bots and beyonds. They're 196 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: still online, but they're going to be opening up these stores. 197 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: And now a Lamonas has got posts. What city should 198 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: we come to next? One thousand dollars gift card for 199 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: the first person to get it right. I have no 200 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 2: idea at the stage whether everybody got it right. 201 00:12:59,320 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: I didn't. 202 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: I didn't check. I did not check. But I will 203 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: tell you this, it's not Sacramento. This is real hate 204 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: for the people, real hate for the people. Are Californians 205 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: clamoring for redistricting or are Democrats in the General Assembly 206 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: doing what it is the Democratic Party has told them 207 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: to do. What about the people of California? Do they 208 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: really want this? Do they want a state that says 209 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: to business, we wouldn't want you get out of here, 210 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: your losers, I call them a loser. Look at how 211 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: tough I am. Or do they want someone who's like, hey, 212 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: look Californians jobs in two instances. You've got a governor 213 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: who doesn't care about the people at all, but he 214 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: really does care about getting himself to the White House. 215 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: Oh oh, he's running, no doubt. I'm Tony Kats. Keep 216 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: it here, and this is Tony Kts Today