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Speaker 2: You just heard Matt Taylor there, Joe writes as well.

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Speaker 2: Colt yesterday winners in Berlin knocking off the Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 2: and there are some areas of concern that I want

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Speaker 2: to get to. Trey Essek's going to join us here,

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Speaker 2: but first if you could please Kurt the breaking new sounder.

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Speaker 2: There's a new number one in college basketball and the

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Speaker 2: Ape Pole. It is the Houston Cougars. And Purdue, despite

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Speaker 2: having more votes for number one, is now second ranked

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Speaking of dropping from number one to number two,

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Speaker 2: Indiana now is the second losing his program in college

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Speaker 2: football history. That's because, by way of their win against

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Speaker 2: has lost more games in college football Division one than

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Speaker 2: anyone in history. Indiana and Northwestern have jostled that dubious

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Speaker 2: that I'm sure thrilled to be back at number one.

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Speaker 2: Trey Essex, the former Northwestern Wildcat, joins us on the

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Speaker 2: Java house feel and poor guest line. And I would

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Speaker 2: assume Trey now assuring that this is your only visit

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Speaker 2: to the program after I pointed that out. Correct, that's a.

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Speaker 1: Way to introduce me.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, super Bowl champion and Northwestern and Fort Wayne product,

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Speaker 2: Trey Essex.

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Speaker 1: Is that better? Much much better? I appreciate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, I want to get to this first and foremost,

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate your time. You know, I messaged you

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Speaker 2: because I'm fascinated by the offensive line of the Colts

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Speaker 2: I think any offensive line unit in the NFL. You know,

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Speaker 2: you're alma mater Pittsburgh. I think I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: You've had a chance to look at it. What have

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessarily the Coats O line

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Speaker 1: Coats still have one of the better offensive lines in

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Speaker 2: You know, so much of sports tray can be mental,

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Speaker 2: But the offensive line seemingly because you are involved directly

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Speaker 1: There is some mental components there. The online is unique

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Speaker 2: Trey Essex is my guest Java House peel and poor

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Speaker 1: It seems that the right tackle spot. I was a

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Speaker 2: And with that past protection, Daniel Jones, you know, Jones

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Speaker 1: With Daniel Jones, it's definitely defenses given him different looks.

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Speaker 2: Trey I wanted to touch on something real quick before we

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Speaker 2: let you go, that you and I've discussed before. Trey

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Speaker 2: Essex is my guest job, a house apeeling for guests.

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Speaker 2: Line you and I've done, you know, a fair amount

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Speaker 2: Why is there a difference in the way that you

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Speaker 1: Uh, As the offensive lineman, and I think most would

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Speaker 2: Why not Here's here's my dumb question. Okay, if you're

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Speaker 2: And finally, before we let you go, Uh, I've got

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Speaker 2: to ask you about Pittsburgh because you obviously I know

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Speaker 2: What's going on with Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 1: He had a bad gang. Uh, He's been playing great,

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. This offense, the way the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: But this past Sunday or yesterday, he just didn't have

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I know you got stuff to get to.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the time today and look forward to talking

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Speaker 2: to you again.

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Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: My man Trey aestis joining us on the Java House

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