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Speaker 1: And it's so weird to say interesting things are going

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Speaker 3: Ben. Hello, Hey, Rob Katy, how you guys doing great?

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Speaker 1: So you were at the Senator Greg Good Good Good

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So this was something that had been announced about

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Speaker 3: This is something that we ran on our newscasts and

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Speaker 1: Okay, nobody's spoke in favor, is that correct? Not one person?

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Speaker 1: No, wait a second, you said you said through ninety

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a little bit of an equipment malfunction

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Yeah, case you've had equipment malfunctions and

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Speaker 2: Wardrobe malfunctions and equipment malfunctions are completely different. Now, Ben Uh,

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Speaker 3: So before this listening session, he kind of gave when

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Speaker 1: Before we get off this topic, Ben, can you kind

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Speaker 1: Is this idea of carbon seaquestration and now the federal

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Speaker 2: Exploding under pressure sounds like something I deal with on

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Speaker 3: So I've heard a little bit. It's kind of gone.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got on other time. We got to

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Speaker 3: Well, so, you know, I knew that something big was

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Speaker 3: Okay, Kasey, letays put to put it see this way,

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Speaker 3: have you ever wanted a just a media studio in

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Speaker 3: Tara Haute. Now is your chance. Rob and I could

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Speaker 2: Oh hey, no problem. But first you have to contact

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Speaker 2: my daughter and get that conversation going.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be beautiful. It's gonna be me and Ben

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Speaker 1: and Casey and her daughter.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to create a love connection. You guys

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Speaker 1: Ben Verbitic WHI Television, tarah Hote.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks guys, I appreciate having me on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're listening to Kennell Locasey on ninety three WYBC