1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Casey. Yeah, Rob, just when I thought I was out, 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: they pull me back again. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 3: What's going on? 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 4: Look, I've been I'm going to remember the media for 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 4: twenty going on twenty four years. I've covered politics very 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 4: closely for the better part of fifteen and what I 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 4: saw yesterday was probably the most unhinged, unforced thing from 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 4: a politician I may have ever seen. And it was glorious. 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 4: Because if you want to fight, buddy, oh boy, you 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 4: come to the right place. 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: Them's fighting words for sure. So the Secretary of State 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: started a presentation at the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board meeting. 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean, how boring does that sound? 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: I know? And wow did it take a hard turn. 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: He didn't tap on the brakes now, he floored the 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: gas and went straight into a media showdown. 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 4: Okay, so let's reach so Diego Morales is the Secretary of. 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: State of the State of Indiana. 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 4: I know most of our audience knows this, but for 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: all the new people that are coming in, we always 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 4: want to kind of reset this and we have for 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 4: the past several months. Asked a very simple question, who 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: paid for the trip? The ten day trip he took 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 4: to India in which he blew off. I mean he 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 4: left the country. Nobody publicly knew where he was. His 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: staff was describing it as on some sort of economic 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: development mission, which he has no economic development responsibility. And 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: most of mort he blew off his budget hearing in 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: front of the Indiana General Assembly, which is his primary job. 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: And so over the past well that was March, so. 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: April, May, June. We're in July now. 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: We have repeatedly asked the question who paid for this 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: trip to India. We know a venture capitalist went with him. 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: We know this guy Raju Shinhala, who has this mysterious 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: eighty thousand dollars contract with his office which we can't 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: get a clear answer on what he does, went with him. 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: And we know Raju, by his own admission, was in 40 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: India selling access to visas to people in the country 41 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: of India. Yeah, and so we have simply asked the 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 4: question for the past four months, who paid for this 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: trip to India? 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: What did you do? Well? 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: He he being Diego Morales, tried to say, well, it 46 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: was some well meaning local merchant that sent me over there. 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 4: He has no business with my office. We said, great, 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: show us who it is, well, I'm not going to 49 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 4: do that. Well why not, Well he could get protested, 50 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 4: protested by whom, right, So then the narrative switched about 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: a month ago or two months ago, where it went 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 4: from somebody else paid for India to I paid all 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: the money back for India. 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: I paid for the trip. No, you did not. You 55 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: reimbursed for the trip. 56 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 4: And so then we said, great, show us proof that 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: you paid the money back. Show us proof that you 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 4: wrote a check with receipts that match what will match 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: all the expent, the flights, the hotels, and the meals whatever, 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 4: and also show us proof that that check was deposited, 61 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: and then we'll all go home. We'll still want to 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: know who that guy was, but we'll all go home. 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: And then he refused to do that, and so I 64 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: don't know, a week or two ago whatever, we just 65 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: kind of said, look, we've taken this as far as 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: we can take it on this radio show. 67 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: That we have exposed all of this. 68 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: We don't have any subpoena power, We don't have the 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: ability to force this guy to do anything. There is 70 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 4: a laundry list of behavior from Diego Morales, a Secretary 71 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: of State, over the past three years that are colossal, 72 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: giant red flags to any normal rational person. But from 73 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: our extent, we're kind of done with it now. The 74 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: campaign finance reports came out, what was that a week 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: or so ago? We had a bunch of questions about that, 76 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: but again, all we can do is ask questions. We're over, 77 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 4: We're done with it. And then yesterday he goes to this. 78 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: It's the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board meeting. They're talking they 79 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: should usually talk about license forums and dm V jargon. 80 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: But Diego Morales, the Secretary of State. He walked in 81 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: there like he was auditioning for a political action film. 82 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: You've never had a secretary of state like me. 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And full credit to Steven Whitmer and the Indie 84 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 4: Reporter people. They got this sent to them by an 85 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: anonymous source. 86 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: It is. 87 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: You can see it at Indie Underscore. Reporter Underscore is 88 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 4: the account if you want to view it. It's a 89 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: zoom type of thing, so you can see this. The 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: Indiana Capitol Chronicle, which wile Nikki Kelly on Next Hour 91 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: ran a fabulous piece of It's fifteen minutes. Basically, it's 92 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: him a ranting for fifteen We are not going to 93 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 4: subject that you to that. Now, what I do suggest 94 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: is our US military view this and send this to 95 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 4: Guantanamo Bay and those people they interrogate in Guantana. 96 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: Oh, you want to tell us the truth? 97 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: Here's fifteen minutes of Morales ranting like an unhinged lunatic. 98 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: How about that? 99 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 4: I think that would be a great way to get 100 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: the trick that Khaleage Shaik Mohammed guy, he'll be singing 101 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 4: like a canary, buddy. 102 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: All right, So so. 103 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: Shall we play this because he is so mad at us, 104 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 4: calling us not only are we fake news, but we're 105 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 4: fake WIBC, which I don't even know what that means. Now, 106 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 4: are we the same WIBC from thirty years ago? No, 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: we used to be on ten seventy. Now we're on 108 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: ninety three one. But I think we've been on ninety 109 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 4: three one for going on twenty years now, close to it, 110 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: So I don't know what that even means. We're the 111 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 4: fake WIBC. But again, this is like a fifteen minute thing. 112 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 4: We're not going to play the whole thing, but we're 113 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: going to try to give you the gist. At a 114 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 4: Motor Vehicle Advisory Board meeting where a bunch of people 115 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 4: are just trying to eat their lunch and just get 116 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: through the meeting, and this guy launches into a fifteen 117 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: minute tie. 118 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Rade go so as you're. 119 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: Known, and this is good for all you members of 120 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: the board now as well to all our guests, distinguished 121 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: guests here. You know, one of the things that we're 122 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 3: going to try to do right now is to share 123 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: with you the hard work that the Morales. 124 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: My way with Papa papas real quick. 125 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: The Morales administration, yes, what the hell is that? It's 126 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: the Broad administration. Before that, it was the Hulcomb administration. 127 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: And so the logical question is does he view it 128 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: on these foreign trips, whether it's Hungary or India or whatever. 129 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 4: Is he presenting himself to these people as the Morales administration. 130 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: That's a great question, and it does seem like he 131 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: really is interested in elevating his stature. 132 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: Sir, you are not the governor. 133 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: And this is what amazes me that Braun keeps allowing 134 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 4: this guy to take a giant dump on him over 135 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 4: and over and over and over again in big time 136 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: him and not do anything about it. Is diego Morales 137 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: when he's in these foreign countries, because we already know 138 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: he doesn't have any economic development authority. The Secretary of 139 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: State is simply an administrator of the will of the 140 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 4: General Assembly. 141 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: That's it. That's his job. 142 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 4: It's not to be an advocate for the state in 143 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: economic development in foreign countries and this, and then your 144 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: job is to enforce the law of the General Assembly. 145 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: It does seem like he's moonlighting. Is Indiana's unofficial ambassador 146 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: at large with the Morales administration. 147 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: That is so concerning that that's how he views himself. Sir, 148 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: you are the Secretary of State, which means in a 149 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: in a targeted group of areas, you have administrative authority 150 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: over the laws passed by the General Assembly. 151 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: Period. That's it. That's the job, okay. 152 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: Go you the hard work that the Morales administration has 153 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: been doing since I took office. Because the fake news 154 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: will never share that, the fake WIBC, the fake in 155 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: the Star, they will never so don't pay attention to 156 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: the fake news. It is time for someone like me 157 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: to share what we have done. 158 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: In that pause, What have we done that's fake? We 159 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: simply want to know. Diego, you are on everyone's right. 160 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: You are on our radar because you took a mysterious 161 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: trip to a foreign country for ten days, and you 162 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: won't tell anybody you diego have made this problem yourself. 163 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 4: You have caused this by refusing to be the least 164 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: bit transparent about any of this, by blowing off your 165 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: responsibility to go hang out and play around in a 166 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: foreign country for ten days for something that's not your responsibility. 167 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: That's why we're paying attention to you. If you had 168 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: told us who paid for the trip, and indeed, whoever 169 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: paid for the trip doesn't have any business with your 170 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 4: office like you claim, we'd still think it's a little 171 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: weird because you're not that charming, you're not that great, 172 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: You're not the type of person some guy would just 173 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: give tens of thousands of dollars two for no reason. 174 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: But okay, you tell us who paid for it and 175 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: it turns out that person that doesn't have any business 176 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: with your office, then we probably all go home. Oh 177 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: but now you've made it worse because you claim you 178 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: paid the money back. So now we want to know 179 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: who paid for the trip, and now we want to 180 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: we want proof you paid the moneyway. 181 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: That's it. What's fake about that? 182 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 183 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: And by the way, we want to know what Raju 184 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: does for the eighty thousand dollars. 185 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: You mentioned the term fake WIBC a dozen times in 186 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: under fifty. 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: We have a let's take a break, because we have 188 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: a montage of this, right we do. 189 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: We have a montage of this. Now, I'm not done 190 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: ranting on this guy, because I was done with it. 191 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: Casey, I know we were moving on, we were moving on. 192 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: You want to fight, he brought it to us. You 193 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: want to be you want to be top news on 194 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: the fake news. 195 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: Uh huh huh. 196 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: Let's take a break. 197 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: Let's okay, let's take a break, and then we will 198 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: play this montage of this unhinged lunatic ranting about us 199 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: over the course. And by the way, again full credit 200 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: to the Indie Reporter account. 201 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: They they posted all of this. 202 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: They've clipped this montage those guys lords work yesterday from them. 203 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: It is Kendilly Casey, It's ninety three WIBC. Okay, So we're. 204 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: Gonna play this montage that Indie Reporter put together of 205 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: the Secretary of State Diego Morales yesterday. 206 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: At his presentation at the Motor Vehicle Advisory Bar meeting. 207 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Look Like I said, I've. 208 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: Been following this pretty closely politics and government in the 209 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: state for fifteen years. It's the most bizarre thing I've 210 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: ever seen where this is just a status like rank 211 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: and file government meeting and he launched into this bizarre 212 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: rant about w fake WIBC, WIBC fake news. I mean 213 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: it went on for fifteen minutes. Nikki Kelly from the 214 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: Capitol Chronicle and the Capital Chronicle have a big story 215 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: about it. It was so bizarre. It is like it 216 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: is not normal behavior. And let me just real quick. 217 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: And by the way, he goes into a bunch of 218 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: things that are just complete bull crap, like how many 219 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: miles he's put on his car? Nobody cares, diego, we 220 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: paid for your car. 221 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's braying about visiting all ninety two counties in 222 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: three months and arriving at the state House by five thirty. 223 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: You know what, That's great. You get to ride around 224 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: in a ninety thousand dollars taxpayer funded car. A lot 225 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: of people are up early and working late too, By 226 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: the way. 227 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I've talked to it. 228 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 4: I took to a couple people in state government yesterday 229 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: and they said the same thing, like I don't know 230 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: what happened to him before he went out to that meeting. 231 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: I don't know who was barking at him. 232 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: There was a frustration level, for sure. 233 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: Because there's no there was zero rhyme or reason for 234 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 4: him at a BMV meeting. 235 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: And how about those poor board members. They were sitting there, 236 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: They had no idea, They were just going to their 237 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: regular scheduled meeting and that arrived. Oh and by the way, 238 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: during that his rant, he was saying to the board 239 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: members that he's never missed the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board meeting. Great, 240 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: you know what meeting you did miss. 241 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: You're the most important one, the budget meeting, which put 242 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: all this put you in the spotlight. 243 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: But look at so much more than us, Right, he 244 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 4: can be mad at us because obviously, look, we are, arguably, 245 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: by market by Marcus Shared, the most listened to talk 246 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: radio station in America. And that's why one of the 247 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: reasons he's pissed, right, because we have such a following. 248 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: We've earned that though diego every day, hundreds of thousands 249 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: of people tuned into this radio station because we earn it. 250 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 4: Fifty thousand people plus tune into this program every single 251 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: day over three hours because we earn it. The most 252 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: stupid thing you can do is go in front of 253 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: people and. 254 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Go, WIBC, is the fake news? Fake? 255 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: What? 256 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Fake? 257 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: What? 258 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: Because we're asking who paid for a ten day trip 259 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 4: to a foreign country where we know one of the 260 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: guys who went with you is selling visa access. We 261 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: know a venture capitalist went with you. What's fake about that? 262 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 4: We're asking for the truth. If you had just been 263 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: honest and told the truth about who paid for the trip, 264 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 4: and then showed proof that you paid it back, We're done. 265 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: What is fake about that? 266 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: So one thing though, I do want to point out, 267 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: because sometimes I think this gets lost in the shovel 268 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: about why we and other people. 269 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there's way more this. 270 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: There's a star, there's a Capital Chronicle, Indie reporter, the 271 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: TV stations have gotten I mean, like there's so many 272 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: people that that have covered this. You are the secretary 273 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: of State. You are arguably outside of the governor and 274 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 4: to some extent maybe the attorney general, the most powerful 275 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 4: person in the state because of all the agencies you oversee, elections, businesses. 276 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 4: You have people's personal information. So when you disappear to 277 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: a foreign country for something that's not your job, which 278 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: is economic development. Yes, diego, people want to know why 279 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 4: you did that. And then when you can't provide an 280 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 4: answer about who paid for you to go, Yeah, another 281 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: giant red flag. And then when you bizarrely claim I 282 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 4: paid for it, but then don't show any proof. He 283 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: wants second, this is some gotcha thing you are causing this, 284 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: Diego every single time the story starts to go away 285 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: you because you're a complete narcissistic egomaniac. 286 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: Calling himself a third person. By the way, bring it 287 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: back up. We were done with it. What else do 288 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: we have to talk about. We've exposed you to the public. 289 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: There's nothing for use for us to say. And then 290 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: now you've made it a story. And he continues to 291 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: claim that the Morales administration is the most transparent. Heoh, 292 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: it's the opposite of transparent. 293 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so Indie reporter at Indie underscore reporter underscore on 294 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: Twitter montage over this fifteen minutes of the ranting. And 295 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 4: by the way, who cares that you're at a county fair. 296 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: Nobody cares, well, certainly not the people at the Motor 297 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: Vehicle Advisory Board meeting has nothing to do with them. 298 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 4: And everything you're doing Diego is for you, and everyone 299 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: knows it. All these trips to these places, handing out 300 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: these checks with your name on it, you don't get 301 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: any credit for that. Now, look if Diego were using 302 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: his own car and his own gas. Wow, Diego loves 303 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: the state so much that he went he went to Jeffersonville. 304 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: You're doing it on our time. Everything you're doing I'm 305 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: paying for. 306 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: At the end of his die tribe, he said, I'm 307 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: not here to be a puppet, and he's ready to 308 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: take on the world. How about you just take on 309 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: your job as Secretary of State. That's all we're asking 310 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: you to do. 311 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 4: Okay, So here is a montage over what was like 312 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes of him, and he's clearly referencing us because 313 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: they identified us of calling us fake news. 314 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: Hard work that the moralists administration has been doing since 315 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: I took office. Because the fake news will never share that, 316 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: the fake WIBC, the fake in the Star, they will 317 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: never So don't pay attention to the fake news. It 318 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: is time for someone like me to share what we 319 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: have that houndies. And by the way, I'm the first 320 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: second time state and the first stay white office in 321 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: the history of Indiana. I hope you all of this. 322 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: Wee can you can tell the fake news as well 323 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: that I Chris crossed all ninety two counties within three 324 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: months three months? Tell me who? Tell me who other 325 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: state White Office called it? Has Chris crossed all ninety 326 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: two countries within three months? 327 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: No one, It's not a race. 328 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: I'm almost finishing my third round of visiting all nightety 329 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: two counties, and which is in July. Where is the 330 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: fake news sharing about all of this? Tell me where 331 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: do you read the Diego moralest an Army veteran in 332 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: Indiana National Guard arrives in the Statehouse between five and 333 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: factory am. We are working hard for your industry every 334 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: single day and people deserves to know all of this. 335 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let the fake news, the fake INDISTR, 336 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: the fake w C to define me. They are fake 337 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: news and they deserve to be called out. You do 338 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: more than half of that. Where is the fake news 339 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: shearing all of this? You see again, no one has 340 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: ever done this before. You roll your eyes, and that 341 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: is why my work ethic is unmatched. And I hope 342 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: the fake news will write down MHM. Let's look at 343 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: the Eggo Morales his abilities his skills and talents that 344 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: he has. And you know what, I don't care if 345 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: you tell me this dragging. 346 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: Are we done? You never know what? Okay, so here, 347 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: so here, diego is the offer. 348 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 4: I will give you as much time as you want 349 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: on this radio show to tell us all about the 350 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 4: past three years, all about your accomplishments, all about your successes, 351 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 4: all about your contracts, about the people you employ, all 352 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 4: about your foreign trips, all about your no bid contracts, 353 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 4: all about the county fairs you visit, about the checks of. 354 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: Our money that you hand out with your name on it. 355 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 4: If you want a week, if you want to come 356 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 4: in your three hours a day, five days, fifteen hours, 357 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: I will give you as much time as you want, 358 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: and we'll do it live, so nobody can say we're 359 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 4: fake news. Nobody can say we're editing anything. Nobody's saying 360 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 4: we being selective. We will give you as much time 361 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 4: as you want to tell us all about the things 362 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: that you say we're not covering, that you say we're 363 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: making up, that we're just manipulating to make you look bad. 364 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: You name the day and Casey. 365 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: And I will be here and we will give you 366 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 4: as much time as you want. And by the way, Casey, 367 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: you can insult us, but I will not let diego 368 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 4: called Jarrett lewis fake news. 369 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: He's going to join us next with the news and 370 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: then we're going to speak with Mark Didel. Sales of 371 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: previously owned homes in the US just hit a nine 372 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: month low. We're going to see if that's the same 373 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: that is going on across the nation that is happening 374 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis. It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety 375 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: three WIBC. 376 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 5: Casey. 377 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: One of the big parts of our economy. It's home 378 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: sales in real estate. 379 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: Yes, this is Trump and. 380 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 4: Across the nation is something people keep an eye on. 381 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: It's sort of a barometer of how things are going. 382 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: And I know you shared this as well over at 383 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 4: WIBC dot com, But yeah, who Finance had a big 384 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 4: article about how nationally real estate is slowing down a 385 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: little bit. 386 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: Well, they said, June gave us a nine month low. 387 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: It was a drop in home sales, and they were 388 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: expecting it to be a little bit better than what 389 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: it was, So it was kind of a surprise to 390 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: the National Association of Realtors. 391 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: So that got us thinking, because home sales still seem 392 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 4: very strong, at least price wise. You know, I do 393 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 4: this anytime something sells around me, I go look up 394 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 4: what it sold for to see how much my assessment 395 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 4: is likely to go up. And it seems like the 396 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: prices remain strong here in Central Indiana. I said, let's 397 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: get to the bottom of what's going on here. 398 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: We got a guy. 399 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: We got a guy. He is the greatest realtor at 400 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: all the land. 401 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 4: His name is Markeddle. Now full disclosure markeditle does, as 402 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: you all know, advertise on this radio station. 403 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: But he's still the best MARKEDIDL. Hello. How are you? 404 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 5: I am doing well. Thanks, it's a pleasure talking you 405 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 5: guys this morning. 406 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so phillis in. 407 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 4: How are we doing when it comes to home sales 408 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: in Central Indiana? 409 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: How's the MO market looking okay for us? 410 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 5: So a real quick comment, you know, real estate one 411 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 5: oh one, just remember when we look at stats that 412 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: we're trying to get a feel for the market. We're very, 413 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: very hyper local. So it's interesting that what you said, Casey, 414 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 5: just a little bit about closed sales. Actually, June for 415 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: Central Indiana, which is the Mid Indiana border realtors, June 416 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 5: was actually the highest closed months transaction since about it 417 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 5: would have been about two years ago, so it actually 418 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: has exceeded that. So again, it's just really interesting. I mean, 419 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 5: you know, we're kind of in those golden times. You know, 420 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 5: we're right around from school starting, we got Labour Day 421 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 5: coming up. People are going to start thinking about the holidays, 422 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 5: which is crazy because here it is it seems like 423 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: summer just started and it's it's still for us in 424 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: Central Indiana. Is it's kind of following in the traditional 425 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: pattern in my opinion. 426 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 2: You know, Mark, it's interesting you bring that up because 427 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: that is one of the things that Rob and I discussed. 428 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: I said, Okay, now, this is a national report that 429 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: they're saying that home sales fell two point seven percent. 430 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: So that's one of the is why we specifically wanted 431 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: to talk to you to get a picture of what's 432 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: going on here in Central Indiana. Now, another thing that 433 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: came out from this report is they said that the 434 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: average home sale price, the median home price, hit a 435 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: record high four hundred and thirty five thousand dollars. Are 436 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: you seeing that here in Indianapolis as well? 437 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, I mean we don't have that dollar amount. 438 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 5: You know there's different markets obviously with different price points, 439 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: but actually, June, your case of your correct medium sales 440 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 5: price for again Central Indiana is the highest highest one 441 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 5: that I've seen. Like when I can go on and 442 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 5: look at charts really quick, I got to go back 443 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 5: seven eight years and it's it's our highest. We just 444 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 5: exceeded for the market three hundred and twenty thousand dollars 445 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 5: average or let's say medium sales price. 446 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 4: Markdidel our guest, markdidl dot com is the website. We're 447 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: taking a look at what's going on with real estate 448 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: here in Central Indiana. Now, Mark, I could see why 449 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 4: people would pay premiums for a house near me. You 450 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: definitely want to be my neighbor. But for the rest 451 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 4: of Central INDIANAX explain this. Why do the prices remain 452 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: so high? 453 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 5: Well, I mean high is relatively speaking. So we have 454 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 5: gone on this steady increase from you know, from the 455 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: last I mean just go all the way back ten years, 456 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: and there hasn't been anything significant that has really impacted 457 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 5: the buyer demand. I mean, we can look back and 458 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 5: talk about the huge rate increases we had about a 459 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: year and a half ago that definitely slowed things down 460 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 5: and definitely stopped the increase, but it didn't cause an 461 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 5: actual year over a year decrease of any significance. So 462 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 5: I mean, it really just does get down to us 463 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 5: the flying demand we are. We're kind of going through 464 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 5: a situation which if you look back four to five 465 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: years ago, or maybe even a little bit longer, we 466 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 5: you know, there was a surge to kind of get downtown, 467 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 5: to kind of get into more of the metro area. 468 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 5: Really kind of the opposites happened now. I mean, if 469 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: you look at the numbers, the Doughnut counties are have 470 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: good overall numbers, and really the areas unfortunately that are 471 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: struggling a little bit are a little bit more of 472 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 5: those metro areas, kind of those village city village areas. 473 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 5: We're going through that with some clients who bought during 474 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 5: that time wanted to be more downtown, kind of more downtown. 475 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 5: Now they're wanting to get out and it is a struggle. 476 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 5: Some of the more difficult numbers as it relates to 477 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 5: homes sitting on the market, not you know, competition in 478 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: your neighborhood. As far as I wish there was less 479 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: homes in my neighborhood for sale so I can move 480 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 5: is really happening more into more of the city center 481 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 5: and you can definitely see that in the numbers. 482 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: Mark title is joining us. Can you talk about what 483 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: your average demographic is who is buying right now? 484 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 5: It's it is shifted over, you know, to the boom 485 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 5: of baby boomer. I mean, I do a first time 486 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: home buy our webinar and I just did it last night, 487 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: and there is an affordability issue. I mean when it 488 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 5: comes to and I think that's serious and I think 489 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 5: that's across the nation. So you know, when the rates 490 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 5: were low, things were moving really fast. That buyer, the 491 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 5: millennial buyer had kind of rose and rose above everybody 492 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 5: that age group and then the generation right behind them. 493 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 5: But you know, cash is more key. The baby boomers 494 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 5: have still have that value, still have that wealth, so 495 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 5: they're able to make life decisions much easier, whether it's 496 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 5: sell and buy or buy a second home. And that's 497 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 5: what we're seeing currently in today's market. 498 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 4: Mark didel Our guests the best real turn all of 499 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 4: the land. Of course he does advertise on this program 500 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: as well, but we've got him here for his expertise. 501 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 4: Markedeedle dot com is the website Casey Okay, So. 502 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: This National Association of Realtor's reports, so the biggest deterrent 503 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: from home buyers that they're hearing is home price and 504 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: mortgage rates. And of course Donald Trump has come out 505 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: and says that he wants to eliminate the capital gains 506 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: tax on home sales. What would that do? 507 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 5: In your opinion, really and all on the true capital 508 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 5: gains doesn't really significantly impact the residential market. There's no 509 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 5: question that's going to impact the commercial side of business. 510 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 5: But when it comes to your own personal residence, the 511 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 5: capital gains limits and deductions, they're high enough, and I 512 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 5: think they're talking about extending them higher. I very rarely 513 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: sit at a closing it when a capital gains impact happens. 514 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 5: Now in other markets where there's a lot of second 515 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: home buying, vacation home buys, that could be different. I mean, 516 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 5: we want to keep the capital gains rate low from 517 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 5: a real estate perspective, but really, I don't think from 518 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 5: the standpoint of our business here in Central Indiana, it 519 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 5: would have too big of an impact. 520 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: Mark Casey knows this. I'm a bit of a voyeur. 521 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: I like to snoop on people. 522 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 4: So when a home, like I said, is sould in 523 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 4: my neighborhood, I just go and look through all the 524 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: properties every so often to see which ones are rentals 525 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 4: and which ones are owner occupied. And it seems like 526 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 4: a lot more of these homes in Central Indiana are 527 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 4: getting bought then becoming rentals. Obviously some of these neighbor 528 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 4: these communities now are trying to cap the amount of rentals. 529 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: How much is these people people or companies in some cases, 530 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 4: who are buying the homes and making them rentals. How 531 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 4: much is that affecting or driving up the price? 532 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: Still, I don't think it's. 533 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 5: I don't think it's big. I mean it's it's still 534 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 5: I mean still the significant residential real estate investor is 535 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 5: still more of the smaller. You know, I got a couple, 536 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 5: I got three, I got five, I got six, seven, 537 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 5: there's I mean, from from a standpoint and having an 538 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 5: impact enough of those those kind of people are still 539 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 5: having opportunities buy and to build their you know, build 540 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: their inventory, so to speak. From a stand but from 541 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: a standpoint of a big national coming in and buying 542 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 5: up the neighborhood, that's that's happened. And but I don't 543 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 5: see it having a huge impact anymore. The fact that 544 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 5: what you're talking about on the rental it's interesting that 545 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 5: you brought that up because there are more and more 546 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: towns and municipalities cities in and around Indianapolis is taking 547 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 5: the same approach that I know Carmel and I can't 548 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 5: remember whether it was Fishers, Yeah, Fishers and Carmel. Actually, 549 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 5: I just heard that Bargersville starting to talk about the 550 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 5: same things. That's gonna be that's gonna be interesting to 551 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: watch see how that dynamics plays out. Is there going 552 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 5: to be any legal challenges and those kind of things. 553 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 5: But I think the intent of that is good. You know, 554 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 5: we want to protect our neighborhoods, but you know people 555 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 5: need places to stay that you know, some people can't 556 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 5: buy it, so they need to rent. They still want 557 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 5: to have a home, So it's you know, there's two 558 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 5: sides of that coin. 559 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: Great information from Mark Deal. One last question for you. 560 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: When you're with your buyer, is there a lot of 561 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: talk about what the property taxes on the potential home. 562 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 5: Property tax not too much on the initial buying phase, 563 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 5: because when a buyer buys a home, ninety nine percent 564 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 5: of the time the seller's given them a credit. Because 565 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 5: the way our property taxes are happening, I would challenge 566 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 5: anybody that really wants to know follow what's going on 567 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 5: on a property tax standpoint. Look at Senate Bill number one. 568 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 5: There's some really thing, really interesting things that governor is 569 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 5: putting in a place and how it's going to impact 570 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 5: property taxes over the next few years. So it's going 571 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 5: to be interesting. 572 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest Hoosiers who ever lived. 573 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 4: His father fedination with the mister D's grocery stores, and 574 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 4: now he's housing a nation with the fabulous buying and 575 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 4: selling of real estate in Central Indiana. 576 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: Mark Deedle, we love you. 577 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 4: Thanks you for all you do for our show, and 578 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: thanks for filling the audience in on what's going on 579 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 4: with real estate here in central Indiana. 580 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 5: Thanks so much, it's always a pleasure. 581 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendall and Casey on ninety three w IBC. 582 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: The Indiana Capital Chronicle. Oh well, let's well done. It's 583 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: go ahead. I think suit you're doing there. 584 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: That's right, yes, Casey trivia question, what's that wrong? 585 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: This song was originally written by who I. 586 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: Think I know that A prince not all written by 587 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: Prince Bruce Springsteen. Of course. 588 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Anyway, it's Kennel a Casey Show. 589 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: It should always be my ins when it comes to music, 590 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: aren't you. 591 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 4: I just got derailed with that. There's a big article. 592 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 4: We have something very important to discuss. Okay, let's get 593 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 4: to Casey Show and we're gonna do a deep dive 594 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: on this with Nikki next hour because they had the 595 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: story over there at Indiana Capitol Chronicle. The there is 596 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: a new report from the Capitol Chronicle about how electric 597 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 4: bills have skyrocketed in Indiana more than seventeen percent yea 598 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: amongst the big five utility companies. And when you couple 599 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 4: that with what was like a nine percent increase the 600 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: year before, I mean you're getting into some real dangerous 601 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: territory with people who are on fixed incomes. 602 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they say that this is the most severe rate 603 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: hike in at least twenty years. I just paid my 604 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: bill last night. Let me tell you it hurt. 605 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: Is it make me a bad person that I just 606 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: keep increasing the temperature in my home every single year. 607 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: I just go up one degree to. 608 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: Try to off try to offset the bill. 609 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: It's a seventy seven nour rob what are you doing. 610 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, this year's increase nearly doubled last year's record, by 611 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: the way, which was nine point three percent rise. Double trouble. U. 612 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: Look, we'll get like I said, we'll do get into 613 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 4: the nitty gritty on it with Nikki Kelly next hour. 614 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: But I mean, when you're talking a bill going up 615 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 4: for somebody twenty five percent in two years, and this 616 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: is what we keep seeing, whether it's property taxes or 617 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: the electric bills, you are pricing middle class or lower 618 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 4: middle class people out of affordability of living. It's just 619 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 4: lost money. They're not getting anything extra than they were getting. 620 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: When you factor in property tax the right increases, or 621 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 4: these electric bill increases. You know, your water sewer bill increases, 622 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 4: You're not getting anything new. It's just money that's just 623 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: going out. 624 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: Costs more for the same service, doesn't it right, And so. 625 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: You're pricing people out of affordability. 626 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: So AES has increased their bills by seventeen dollars a month, 627 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: which is a twelve percent increase, and they're going to 628 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: be seeking another twenty one dollars a month hike by 629 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. What what company do you have? Who 630 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: do you use? 631 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: Duke or yeah or duke? 632 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: Your duke bills rose nearly twenty six dollars a month 633 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: twenty percent. 634 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but see I've offset that by just smoking my 635 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 4: family out of my house. 636 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: Sweating, which is shower before you come in. 637 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: What do you keep your house at? 638 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 2: I keep it cool, which is why my bill is 639 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: so high? 640 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Are you that's on me? 641 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: Part of that's on me? 642 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: Are you three numbers? And when you pay your bill? 643 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 4: Are there three numbers before the decimal point? 644 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: Oh? 645 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: Yes, because you your skyrise goes straight up and uh. 646 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: It's definitely three numbers. Huh more than one hundred. 647 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Yeah. 648 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 4: I Uh. 649 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: Do you ever review the bill year over over year? 650 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: You know what? I haven't? 651 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 4: You know there's a chart usually on the bill. Well, 652 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 4: they'll show you how you did. 653 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: I you know what, I just logged in online and 654 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: paid it as quickly as possible and logged out. I 655 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: was like, just get it done. 656 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: Do you're do you you pay the bills in your house? 657 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 4: Well? 658 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: I did last night. 659 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying, but do you don't have like a like 660 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 4: a like a responsibility chart between you and your husband? 661 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that charge. 662 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm not having conceisious like in a 663 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 4: lot of houses. Somebody will pay that. My job is 664 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: to pay the bills. You guys don't do that just 665 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 4: you just ran. 666 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: When we were first, Mary Jim paid him for a 667 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: good majority of the time. But I've started to take 668 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: some of that responsibility over. 669 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: Do you pay bills quickly? If you know, he would 670 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: be rather upset if he saw that. 671 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: No, it was just a matter of it had to 672 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: get done, and I was there, so I just did it. 673 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: I got you okay, rather than rather than them turning 674 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: it off completely, I said, well, I'm gonna have to 675 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: pay it. I need the electricity. 676 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: Hey, real good. I did want to say I was. 677 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: It was eating yesterday at the Arby's in Brownsburg, and 678 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 4: I get this quite frequently. Some guy walks in and 679 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: turns and looks at me, stares at me. Tim was 680 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: his name, and he goes, use your coupons today. 681 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: He's a big fan of the show. Did you of 682 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: course they did good for you? Yes, absolutely. Tim was 683 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: very nice, very nice to meet him. Was a big 684 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: fan of our show. 685 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: And yes, yes, I've reached that level Casey where I 686 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: get noticed at the Brownsburg Garden. 687 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: Yes, you do, unmistakable face. For radio, it is Kendall 688 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: and Casey. It's ninety three W Whitey C.