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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five The

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Speaker 2: To get into the Christmas spirit, James, you feeling a

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Speaker 2: little bit walking around town seeing it, talking to your

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Speaker 2: friends family, You there.

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Speaker 3: I think I always pretty much am around this time

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Speaker 3: of the year. But yeah, my entire family is adults,

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Speaker 3: so we don't really get into the whole f on

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Speaker 3: the shelf, and no one has a surprise gift.

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Speaker 4: You just ask me what they want.

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Speaker 5: They don't have you looking around for it.

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Speaker 2: Nah.

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Speaker 3: And then I don't even worry about like getting gifts

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Speaker 3: there on time, Like when I see you next time,

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Speaker 3: we'll go do something.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of how it is.

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Speaker 3: So I look forward to seeing the reaction when I

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Speaker 3: get to FaceTime my god kids and their reaction to

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Speaker 3: getting the PlayStation or.

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Speaker 4: The new shoes or whatever. You know.

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Speaker 6: Oh, mister boyd, Yeah, I'd just getting the place PlayStation.

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Speaker 3: No, no saying it to be clear, Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 3: buying anything, and I don't know if Santa's getting that.

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Speaker 3: My whole point is i'd just see the reaction when

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Speaker 3: they get all the stuff that they want.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna be honest, I I the elf, and the

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Speaker 7: bowing household is probably quickly realizing we don't have maybe

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Speaker 7: the biggest home.

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Speaker 5: Oh but he's flying in and out though every day.

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Speaker 7: Well she she she is Emily the Elf. Emily isn't

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Speaker 7: you know, little nervous Emily might be back to some

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Speaker 7: spots she might have been at earlier in the month.

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Speaker 8: You know, we just don't have Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but the kids to remember that.

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Speaker 6: In the same issue in our household, Ye, she's in

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Speaker 6: the kitchen already. Well she's there again. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 6: can't help her, you know.

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Speaker 7: I try not to coax Emily in too many different directions,

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Speaker 7: but I'm afraid she might have to reappear in a few.

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Speaker 4: What did the elf become a thing?

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Speaker 3: We were I was asking Joel and Nathan this was

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Speaker 3: Is this like a ten year thing?

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Speaker 4: Like? Has this been around for a decade?

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Speaker 2: My kids are sixteen and seventeen, and the elf started

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Speaker 5: At our house.

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Speaker 2: Uh, probably about a decade ago. Probably maybe me eleven

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Speaker 6: Okay, fair enough, it was around in the eighties, I

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Speaker 6: can tell you that much.

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Speaker 8: I'm just call it a Philip Rivers NFL career.

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Speaker 5: James Okay.

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Speaker 3: I was just asking because, like I told you, I

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Speaker 3: have to give my parents feedback on their you know, parenting,

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Speaker 3: and I want to tell them, hey, you should have

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Speaker 4: You don't give enough efforts.

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Speaker 8: So they're holding their breath to hear James Boyce.

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Speaker 4: I'm still asking for a basketball hoop.

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Speaker 3: My dad says, mister boy you still used to hold

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Speaker 3: me a basketball hoop.

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Speaker 4: I'm thirty years old, man, I need that hoop.

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Speaker 8: I did love this for Max ball.

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Speaker 7: And last night he has one of his you know,

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Speaker 7: Fisher Price hoops that we moved outside when it was warmer.

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Speaker 7: And he says to me last night, as he's attempting

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Speaker 7: can we bring the basketball hoop back indoors?

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Speaker 8: I'm like, let's go, Let's hoop.

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Speaker 5: That's how every kid should. Let's go.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, forty nine Saints is just basketball. This is Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Is there a like a Nerf hoop mounted somewhere in

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Speaker 1: And not?

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Speaker 7: You know, we had one of those nerf I don't

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Speaker 7: of those hoops. In the bath and that that sounded

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Speaker 1: It quickly got a little too.

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Speaker 2: I can remember my younger brother and I we had

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Speaker 2: ferocious hallway battles with the hoop that would go over

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we were admonished many many times for bumping

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Speaker 2: didn't have the highest arc. You couldn't put a lot

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Speaker 2: have to hear us jumping up and down in the

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Speaker 5: But that's how it works, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: At some point, you got to you gotta put up.

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Speaker 8: A court somewhere at some point, right, especially in this state.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how that goes.

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Speaker 2: So Savan Morning Show ninety three, five one on seven,

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Speaker 2: five the Fan, getting back to the business of football.

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Speaker 2: Here's where we are for the Indianapolis Colts. They are

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Speaker 2: eight and six on the year. They had a narrow

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Speaker 2: loss with Philip Rivers, the forty four year old off

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Speaker 2: the couch quarterback in Seattle on Sunday. They are one

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Speaker 2: head tie break over them. But they'll play the Texans again,

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Speaker 2: and that's really their best hope because they're two full

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Speaker 2: imagine that the Bills are going to get that. The

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Speaker 2: Jaguars are also two full games above the Colts, and

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Speaker 2: they currently.

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Speaker 5: Lead in the AFC South.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty simple math, guys, Colts need to win all

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Speaker 2: three of these games. They could win two and get

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Speaker 2: that might do it, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, if they win three, I think it's

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Speaker 7: almost a lock that they make the playoffs. And honestly,

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Speaker 7: I've crunched a few of the numbers here over the

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Speaker 7: last couple of days. There are a lot more scenarios

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Speaker 7: in just winning two where they get in, particularly the

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Speaker 7: the two, which it just sounds wild. I mean, they

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Speaker 7: could lose Monday night. That'd be what a five game

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Speaker 7: you know, could have a decent shot. You know, I

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Speaker 7: think we started talking about this maybe a couple weeks

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Speaker 7: ago when the playoff situation became a little bit more

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Speaker 7: will the Colts get enough help's well they do their part?

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Speaker 7: Like Jeff, you just said win three in a row.

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Speaker 7: They haven't won two games in a row in December

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Speaker 7: biggest question is like, can the Colts do their own

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Speaker 7: of these three? That to me is the bigger question

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Speaker 7: than Hey, is Houston gonna lose? Could the Chargers lose?

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Speaker 7: Like if you look at the Texans schedule, you look

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Speaker 7: week seventeen. I think they will definitely lose, particularly the Chargers.

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Speaker 7: It's more of will the Colts be able to do

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Speaker 7: their own part in this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're looking at conference records, which ultimately

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Speaker 2: that could could matter.

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Speaker 5: If the Colts won.

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Speaker 2: Those final two divisional games, obviously that adds to their

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Speaker 2: the other wildcard teams, Chargers are eight and two in

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Speaker 2: the conference right now, but the Colts hold the head

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Speaker 2: the conference. So it's all up all there to be

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Speaker 2: played for Kevin. Whether you win two or three, three,

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Speaker 2: I think probably gets it done too, like you say,

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Speaker 5: But it's a good thing they racked.

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Speaker 2: Up those early wins and a lot of those those

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Speaker 2: first eight games were conference games, James, because that may

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Speaker 3: So according to our playoff predictor at the Athletic which

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Speaker 3: runs through the season, I think like a thousand times

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Speaker 3: to a simulator design, no, I did not pu shout

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Speaker 3: out to my guy Austin Mock. As thought it's funny

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Speaker 3: because the guy's name is Austin Mock and he is

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Speaker 3: in charge of a lot of our mock simulators.

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Speaker 6: But it's not a like Carol Weathers or something, and

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Speaker 6: as a weather lady exactly.

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Speaker 4: But his last name really is a monk. Shout out

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Speaker 4: to my guy Austin Monk.

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Speaker 8: Work was all over that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a he's a pro and I feel like

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Speaker 3: whenever I hear him it's like the voice of God,

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Speaker 4: Hear somebody, Yes, you know.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of out of your view there for whatsoever, Well,

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Speaker 2: if a lot of people say on the YouTube streams

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Speaker 2: say the same thing, you know, a little dark in here.

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Speaker 3: But as far as the playoff odds go, if they

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Speaker 3: went out, they have a ninety eight percent chance to

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Speaker 4: So it's not the end all, bey'all.

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Speaker 3: But they pretty much have to win their division games

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Speaker 3: you lose your next two, that percentage drops to less

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Speaker 4: And James, you, guys, you have to win.

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Speaker 7: Factor in the colts current state, yes, and with Philip

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Speaker 7: the other teams and who they have to play and

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Speaker 7: how those scenario would likely go. And so if you

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Speaker 7: want to be eternal optimists, the numbers are actually higher

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Speaker 7: right now, Yes, that the Colts make the playoffs and

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Speaker 7: those numbers of Jamesto out there. I saw Vegas had

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Speaker 7: it at plus nine hundred. So if you want to

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Speaker 7: bet on the Colts to make the playoffs, ten bucks

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Speaker 7: to win ninety would be what you're looking at right

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Speaker 7: now here. So again, it just comes back to you've

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Speaker 7: got to do your part. One thing about San Francisco.

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Speaker 7: You look a little closer at the forty nine ers again,

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Speaker 7: they are the poster child of don't tell me injuries

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Speaker 8: They are.

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Speaker 7: They have been decimated with injuries this season. Parties missed

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Speaker 7: eight games, Kittles missed five. Nick Bosa tears ACL in

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Speaker 7: Week three. Fred Warner arguably the best defensive player in

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Speaker 7: the league. You know whatever that was of a gruesome

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Speaker 7: looking injury. He's done for the season.

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Speaker 4: Best defensive guy not named Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 9: Both.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's probably the best way to play it. Both

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Speaker 7: their first round picks the last two years have missed

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Speaker 7: ample time. I mean, they have been so hurt. Here

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Speaker 7: they are at ten wins. You look closer at it, though,

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Speaker 7: and it's shocking that they are at that number.

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Speaker 8: They are the worst.

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Speaker 7: Sack team in the NFL. They struggle to stop the run,

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Speaker 7: Tennessee just average nearly. I think it was over six

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Speaker 7: oddest thing that San Francisco is going for them this season,

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Speaker 7: they have been like the elitist special teams unit. You

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Speaker 7: can imagine they have yet to miss a field goal

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Speaker 7: and their opponents have missed nine. You want to talk

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Speaker 7: about great field goal luck, I mean that's just luck.

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Speaker 5: So that was inspiring and that was fun.

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Speaker 2: And I think all of us that were not in

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Speaker 4: Yeah you can't.

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Speaker 8: Are they gonna do this?

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Speaker 5: That was an amazing story, and I know it didn't work.

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Speaker 5: Kevin? What's the follow up?

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Speaker 2: For a forty four year old quarterback who they generated

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Speaker 7: So I think that's what makes the story a little

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Speaker 7: You know, I do find myself the further we get

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Speaker 7: There will be more there down the field to this offense.

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Speaker 8: You could throw you know, the whole play.

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Speaker 7: Reiterate for everybody, when you are on injured reserve, you

444
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Speaker 7: have a twenty one day practice window to where you

445
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Speaker 7: can practice. You don't count against a fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 7: You can be activated at any point during that window.

447
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Speaker 7: For example, the Forest Buckner is currently in the second

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Speaker 7: week of that window. Last week it started for him,

449
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Speaker 7: he did not play in the game after missing a month.

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Speaker 7: I think there's a definite chance he plays on Monday.

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Speaker 7: That would be obviously week two of the twenty one

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Speaker 7: day window. So for Richardson, I think one of the

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Speaker 7: bigger misnomers people have is about how many reps your

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Speaker 7: quarterbacks actually get in practice. Like, first off, you don't

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Speaker 7: practice that long, particularly this.

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Speaker 8: Time of year.

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Speaker 7: Philip Rivers is taking every single starting rep and James,

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Speaker 7: You've spoken to Riley Leonard about this. Riley Leonard has

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Speaker 7: been very vocal when he was the backup to Daniel

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Speaker 7: Jones how beneficial it was for him to run the

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Speaker 7: scout team and play against the Colts starting defense in practice.

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Speaker 8: So your backup.

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Speaker 5: I e.

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Speaker 7: Riley Leonard, He's getting all the scout team reps. There's

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Speaker 7: no reps for Brett Rippon. There's no reps for theoretically

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Speaker 7: third string Anthony Richardson, fourth string Anthony Richardson, however you

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Speaker 7: want to classify him.

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Speaker 8: So getting him.

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Speaker 7: Up to speed in that manner is where I have

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Speaker 7: some pause, And a lot of my pause is rooted

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Speaker 7: in how I think Shane Steiken's viewing this. Not my

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Speaker 7: own belief. My own belief is whenever Richardson's healthy that

473
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Speaker 7: I think he should be out there. But I'm just

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Speaker 7: trying to relay how I think Shane Stikeen.

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Speaker 5: Is viewing it.

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Speaker 7: And he's viewing this is this is Philip Rivers's football team.

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Speaker 7: Even a little thing they did James signing Rivers to

478
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Speaker 7: the fifty three man roster, They could have just kept

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Speaker 7: him on the practice squad and promoted him one, two

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Speaker 7: and a third time. The fact that they immediately signed

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Speaker 7: him to the fifty three man roster last week after

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Speaker 7: a few days.

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Speaker 4: A good nuance. I didn't think about that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that means he can start all four of these games.

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Speaker 7: That to me was another sign of this old chips in.

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Speaker 7: This ain't a one week thing. This if this isn't

487
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Speaker 7: a little test case, they firmly believe that Rivers is

488
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Speaker 7: going to be their quarterback. I would venture to guess

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Speaker 7: for the rest of the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 5: We'll see what happens on Monday night.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of days ahead to talk about it,

492
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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about that. The pacer is going to

493
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Speaker 2: be back at home tomorrow against the Knicks college basketball

494
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Speaker 2: last night. It's all coming up with the details in

495
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Speaker 2: the next few minutes. Also, the man who did the

496
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Speaker 2: story on Indiana football and Kurt Signetti for sixty minutes

497
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Speaker 2: joins us in a moment here at ninety three five

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Speaker 2: and one oh seven five the Fan. If you saw

499
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Speaker 2: the sixty minutes piece on the Indiana Hoosiers this past Sunday,

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Speaker 2: it was terrific.

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Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I even learned a couple of things, even though we

503
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Speaker 2: followed the team very closely.

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Speaker 5: It was done by John Worth.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at sixty minutes there, and he joins us

506
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Speaker 2: now in the Payless Liquors hotline to tell us a

507
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Speaker 2: little bit more about some of the things he discovered

508
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Speaker 2: found out and what was around with Kurt Signetti and

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Speaker 2: the guys this past couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: And good morning, John, thanks for being here. We appreciate

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Speaker 5: your time this morning, pleasure.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing.

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Speaker 5: We're doing terrific.

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Speaker 2: We got a team getting ready to play in the

515
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Speaker 2: college football Playoff that nobody saw coming twenty four months ago.

516
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Speaker 2: People are talking about this as one of the greatest turnarounds,

517
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Speaker 2: if not the greatest turnaround in the history of college football.

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Speaker 2: What were your thoughts going into Bloomington for that story

519
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Speaker 2: and what were your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: Coming out of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I had sort of lived this failure. I'm

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Speaker 1: a Bloominkin guy and you know, follow Indiana sports pretty

523
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Speaker 1: closely and was sort of had lived this, and I

524
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Speaker 1: guess I wanted to just see it on the ground

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Speaker 1: for myself. I mean, I'd sort of talked to a

526
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Speaker 1: number of people in town and people I grew up with,

527
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Speaker 1: and you guys, see this team, They're not only they

528
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Speaker 1: winning games, are great to watch. They've got this quarterback

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Speaker 1: who's a super kid. And then just sort of experiencing

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Speaker 1: for myself seeing the other talking to Don Fisher, it

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Speaker 1: really sort of crystallized what a special season. This is

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Speaker 1: whoever thought we would be in a position where, you know,

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Speaker 1: if Indiana did not win a national championship in football,

534
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Speaker 1: it would carry the sting of disappointment. I've been to

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Speaker 1: plenty of games where you wouldn't even go in from

536
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Speaker 1: the tailgate because by the end, you know, ten ten

537
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Speaker 1: minutes into the game, it was already twenty four to

538
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Speaker 1: nothing and you just stayed in the parking lot. So

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Speaker 1: this is a big, big turnaround.

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Speaker 7: John, great great piece we played yesterday the audio of

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Speaker 7: Kurt Signetty kind of retelling maybe his first twenty four

542
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Speaker 7: to forty eight hours in the job, and you know,

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Speaker 7: the the utter disgust that he basically had and how

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Speaker 7: people viewed the Indiana football program. And that's honestly what

545
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Speaker 7: led to I think so much of the boisterous you know,

546
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Speaker 7: produce sucks all of that, you know, so on and

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Speaker 7: so forth.

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Speaker 8: That stood out to me. And then you bring up

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Speaker 8: Don Fisher.

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Speaker 7: I thought Don had one of the more just frankly

551
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Speaker 7: intelligent comments about this turnaround, specifically with the football team.

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Speaker 7: You know, you, as a bluey Toon native, you've seen

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Speaker 7: Indiana teams be able to score. You've seen Indiana teams

554
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Speaker 7: that have had you know, quarterbacks and wideouts. But when

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Speaker 7: Don brought up the offensive and defensive lines, I think

556
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Speaker 7: you just go back and you watch that Big Ten

557
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Speaker 7: championship game, and that's to me where I've never seen

558
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Speaker 7: the program at a championship level in the trenches like

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Speaker 7: this year's team is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point. Some of us was

561
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Speaker 1: just icest, right. I mean you could look for yourself

562
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Speaker 1: and you could say, hey, listen, not a you know

563
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Speaker 1: Anton Rendall, let me go go to the list. I'm

564
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Speaker 1: position players were never the issue. It was just Indiana

565
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Speaker 1: for years and years and years getting beat on the line.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I mean this is this was

567
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Speaker 1: pere say, someone told me this. But half the motivation

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Speaker 1: for Mellencamp donating that indoor training facility, part of it

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Speaker 1: was about, yeah, they'd have an indoor practice field. But

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Speaker 1: another part of it was this was going to be

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Speaker 1: a lure for the big linemen that always seemed they

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Speaker 1: existed in Indiana. They just went to Ohio State, Michigan

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Speaker 1: and Illinois. But I think, you know, the team looks different,

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Speaker 1: it plays different, and again I think it's also a

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Speaker 1: team you can do proud of. I mean, there's no

576
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Speaker 1: kind of hey, feel we've got to compartmentalize because we

577
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Speaker 1: know this is a little bit icky. It's just kind

578
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Speaker 1: of good vibes all around. Some of it to me

579
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Speaker 1: was like why did this take so long? You sort

580
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Speaker 1: of go back through the decades and you sort of say, wait,

581
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of assets here. Why did this

582
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Speaker 1: take until twenty twenty five to be this competitive? But no,

583
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Speaker 1: I think the coach gets a lot of credit. And

584
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Speaker 1: now it seems kind of you guys know better than

585
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Speaker 1: like you, but it seems kind of perpetual him. Now

586
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Speaker 1: you're you're getting recruits and you're getting exposure, and now

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Speaker 1: it's kind of you know, in other sports it can

588
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Speaker 1: be a fluky, one hit wonder, but football is so

589
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Speaker 1: structural that you kind of get the feeling that now

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Speaker 1: things are only going to pick up from here.

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Speaker 3: John, When I look at this IU team, I mean

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Speaker 3: last year they had Curtis Works and he was a

593
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Speaker 3: fine quarterback and NFL quarterback, And I had questions about

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Speaker 3: Random Mendoza and his ability to take over for Curtis,

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Speaker 3: And he has only taken over very well, but he

596
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Speaker 3: is the first Heisman Trophy winner in IU history. So

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Speaker 3: we talk about having a tea to like or or

598
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Speaker 3: feel good about rooting for. How much of he is

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Speaker 3: he a part of that because he seems like the

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Speaker 3: nicest kid ever, but he's also a killer.

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Speaker 1: He's yeah, exactly. I mean it's kind of this. It

602
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Speaker 1: also struck me they're very there's a big overlap with

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Speaker 1: the Midwest. I mean, he's from Miami and he played

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Speaker 1: at Cal, but he seems like a real sort of

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Speaker 1: culturally it's a nice fit. There's this underdog component to

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Speaker 1: him too. I mean he said this, but you could

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Speaker 1: there is actually. I mean, if you said on September first,

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Speaker 1: here are the top ten quarterbacks that are going to

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Speaker 1: contend for the Heisman, is he on that list? Probably not.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: I think his journey really mirrors that of Indiana too,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's part of this story as well.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot not to like about this team was

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Speaker 1: kind of one one of my takeaways. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: starts with a quarterback. And I also think, you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at the transfer portal. The one thing I

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Speaker 1: heard before I even started reporting was this program is

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Speaker 1: really they've gotten some money, and they've gotten Cuban. The

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Speaker 1: step up and they've invested in football, and coach Signetty

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Speaker 1: really makes good use of the transfer portal. But look

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Speaker 1: at that roster. I mean, I don't in front of me,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's Western Kentucky, it's Navy, Northern Illinois. It's

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Speaker 1: not all starting quarterbacks at CAL who went to a

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Speaker 1: ball game.

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Speaker 10: A lot of.

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Speaker 1: These players that came to the transfer portal really were

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Speaker 1: developed when they got to Bloomington, and I wonder if

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Speaker 1: that isn't part of the story that has been overlooked

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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: John Worth, I'm sixty minutes joining us here on the

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Speaker 2: fan morning show, and John one thinks I was fascinated

632
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Speaker 2: by this too.

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Speaker 5: Little things.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I need to know more about John Mellencamp's private

635
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Speaker 2: little crow's nest up there.

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Speaker 5: How cool was that to hang out in there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's as much you know, he said this,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm violating any confidentiality. I think it's

639
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Speaker 1: as much about open air where he can smoke than

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Speaker 1: anything else. But yeah, I mean, who knew that. Above

641
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Speaker 1: the premiere you sort of see this shackup of the

642
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Speaker 1: press box and you say, I don't know, maybe it's

643
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Speaker 1: the opposing team has got a camera up there, or

644
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Speaker 1: it's for you know, the video coordinator for IU who

645
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Speaker 1: knew that, you know, our Grammy winning Hall of Fame

646
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: local musician is there watching games from his own little

647
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Speaker 1: It's like an ice fishing hunt. But also he really,

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Speaker 1: I mean I got to say to his credit, I

649
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Speaker 1: mean he he said he was what seed, the Jassper

650
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Speaker 1: High school mascot for the football team. So this is

651
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Speaker 1: a guy whose relationship with football goes way back. This

652
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Speaker 1: is not you know, some bandwagon fan who's now showing

653
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Speaker 1: up because the team is undefeated. I mean, he sat

654
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Speaker 1: through plenty of lopsided losses starting in the seventies, So

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Speaker 1: he's earned this as much as any lung suffering Indian

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Speaker 1: a football fan.

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Speaker 7: John Warth, I'm certainly a legendary name when it comes

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Speaker 7: to journalism, business, sports journalism. And you saw the sixty

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Speaker 7: minutes piece with him on an Indiana football on Sunday.

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Speaker 8: John, It's funny.

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Speaker 7: A few weeks ago, I was talking to our producer

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Speaker 7: Mark and I said, you know, at some point here,

663
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Speaker 7: as we get closer to the NA Tournament, we need

664
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Speaker 7: to get John. Try to get John on because I

665
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 7: thought you wrote an X an excellent piece a few

666
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 7: weeks back highlighting the nineteen seventy six Hoosiers and now

667
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 7: the fifty year anniversary that we are in of that

668
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 7: undefeated team. There are so many Honestly, I'd love to

669
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 7: have you on here maybe in a few months to

670
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 7: dive a little bit deeper into that while that that

671
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 7: takes the back burner to Indiana football, but welcome to

672
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five here. Maybe just the anecdote that struck

673
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 7: you the most in talking to the various players in

674
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 7: that piece, because I thought there were just really several.

675
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 8: Different things that were a great, great read in there.

676
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Speaker 1: Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, I hope these guys. It's

677
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: really funny.

678
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 8: You're right.

679
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, here we are in mid December, and like

680
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Indiana basketball, both know the current team, which is a

681
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: good team, and this fifty year anniversary of the last

682
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: one defeated team, they've all been kind of subsumed by

683
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: Heisman winning and an undefeated football team. I'm not sure

684
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: who would have predicted that, but yeah, I mean it's

685
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: been it's been fifty years now, which is crazy, since

686
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: that the seventy sixth team. I'll tell you a quick

687
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: funny story, which is I called Kent Benson and left

688
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: a voice mail, Hey, I'm doing this story. I'd like

689
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: to get some recollections. And a half an hour later

690
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: he calls me back with Bob Wilkerson on the other

691
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: line because he wanted to be sure that his teammate

692
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: like shared his reflections and got his glory as well.

693
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, you know, fifty years later and these

694
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: guys are probably in their early seventies and they still

695
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: have you know, you, if my man beats me to

696
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: the basket, don't worry because I got you. I mean,

697
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: they still have this kind of got your back relationship.

698
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think part of it is just how

699
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: extraordinary this this team was, how tough their schedule was.

700
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't think has been told enough. And also there

701
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: really wasn't a star. I mean, I guess it would.

702
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: You'd probably say it was Scott May and Ken Benson.

703
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: But you look at the great teams in college football,

704
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: I mean college basketball history, and there's you know, it's

705
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: Kareem who goes on to become one of the great

706
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: NBA players after UCLA, and you know, Jordan takes Carolina

707
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: to the championship. I mean, I'm not sure any of

708
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: the start I think all starting five has played in

709
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: the NBA, but I don't think any of them average

710
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: more than ten points. This was really very much in uh.

711
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: You know, this was really a Bob Knight team. And

712
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: there wasn't a standout player. There wasn't a guy who

713
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: reliably was giving you thirty points a night. But they

714
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: were all versatile. They all played defense, and they all

715
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: did it together. You don't. You don't see a lot

716
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: of championship dynastic teams formed that way. And I mean, also,

717
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: I got a hot take for you. But here here's

718
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: something else I was thinking when I was in Indiana

719
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: last week, which is all right about this, I wonder

720
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Speaker 1: if the success of the football team now isn't bringing

721
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: some measure of closure to the Bob Knight fago, which

722
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: remained an open wound, if you know, well after he left.

723
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: I got the feeling that coach Sig is sort of

724
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: the best of Bob Knight, and the successful football is

725
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: actually kind of helping to heal this this Huger nation

726
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: that's still in some some ways hasn't quite gotten over

727
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: a process the Bob Knight departure. I felt like I

728
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: had closure on the Bobnight era through the football team.

729
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 7: Do you buy that, John, they walked out to Griffy

730
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 7: Lake and they had to sacrifice the IU basketball team

731
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Speaker 7: in order to be good at football.

732
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Speaker 8: Could you appreciate that?

733
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Speaker 5: Maybe?

734
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Speaker 1: Well, that's a great analogy and a great reference. That's man,

735
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: I wish I thought of that. Yeah, I mean, I

736
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: just got the feeling that, you know, coach Sig reminds

737
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: people of the best of Bob Knight without the chair throwing.

738
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Speaker 1: And it's kind of like, you know, we do things

739
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: differently here and the hard ass coach can still thrive

740
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: and accountability still matters, and in some ways this football

741
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: team is a validation of Coach Night and what he

742
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: stood for. In some ways it's the repudiation. But it

743
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: seems like the uh, you know, the tribe has come

744
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: back together and it didn't wasn't a basketball team that

745
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: did it. But that's just that was just my sense

746
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: on the ground. Love this now.

747
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 8: I think it's really well said.

748
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 7: Don Fisher comes on our noon to three show here

749
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 7: with Jay Querry every Monday, and I was listening to

750
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 7: him a couple of days ago and he mentioned the

751
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 7: feeling he has right now with Kurt Signette, and the

752
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 7: football program is reminiscent of the Night era in that simply,

753
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 7: I just don't think we're ever going to lose, which

754
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 7: is about as high of praise as you could ever

755
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 7: garner for either the team you cover or like fans

756
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 7: are natural skeptics like that, I mean, that's fandom and

757
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 7: skepticism might as well go hand in hand. And for

758
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 7: you to believe that about the team that you cheer for,

759
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 7: let alone it be in the Indiana University football program

760
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 7: is just light years into amazing.

761
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: That's that's that's well put. And again, I mean I

762
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: just you know, two years ago there were three Kurz

763
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: Signetti arrived because the team won one of its nine

764
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: Big Ten games. The speed of this turnaround and how

765
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: thorough it is, and how it doesn't seem to be

766
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: tended on one star shot goes to LSU. Okay, fine,

767
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. It seems much more sort of bottom

768
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: up and organic than hey, we got lucky and got

769
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: this one star player and then we're going to go

770
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: back to Indiana State nineteen eighty. The speed of all

771
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: this is part of the story too, And I'm not

772
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: sure you know Night Night was already had a solid

773
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: program in the early seventies, but yeah, it's just it was.

774
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: It was really fun to see again. You guys know

775
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: the spending than I do. But two years ago, I

776
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: don't think anyone was thinking, Boy, if Indiana doesn't complete

777
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: this undefeated season, it's going to be disappointing. They beat

778
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State and take over the number one ranking. The

779
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: fact that this sal came out of nowhere makes it

780
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: special as well.

781
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 5: John, Thanks for your time this morning. We appreciate it

782
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 5: more than you know.

783
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: Great job on the piece this past Sunday night, and

784
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: we look forward to seeing more of your work in

785
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: the future.

786
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 5: As always, you got it.

787
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Go Hoo's yours.

788
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: Help your Wednesdays off to a terrific start as we

789
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: edge closer and closer to a big week out of

790
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: Sports Star with a college football playoff Alabama Oklahoma winner

791
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: gets Indiana on Friday night, three more playoff games on Saturday,

792
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: of course, the Indie Classic College Basketball game happening at

793
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: the Fieldhouse. You can get the Knicks coming to town

794
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night for the Indiana Pacers, and then the Colts

795
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: on a Monday night game against San Francisco. Once again

796
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: going back to it's just an unbelievable place for sports here, Kevin,

797
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 2: unbelievable place for sports.

798
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 7: Marketingword on Joe Buck potentially joining us, I have been

799
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 7: told by an email at received about five minutes ago.

800
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Speaker 6: I should know within the next few hours looking forward.

801
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 8: No, how about that?

802
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 7: So maybe on Monday, Joe Buck with Colts and forty

803
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 7: nine ers here. Jeff, you want to start us off

804
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 7: here with number ten, since we gave our yea ten yesterday.

805
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 8: Again, these are top Indiana.

806
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 7: Sports stories of the twenty twenty five calendar year.

807
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 8: We started with ten. Jeff wasn't here yesterday, so go

808
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 8: ahead and share with us what you got, all right.

809
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 5: I will go with my number ten.

810
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: It's high school football, and there's some high school football

811
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: on my list all year long. I kind of had

812
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: to share it because we had back to back champions

813
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: Brownsburg in six A, one of the most impressive high

814
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: school football teams I've seen here in a long long time.

815
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 5: And I got to also give a shout.

816
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: Out to newpal who went up a class Kevin and

817
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: still won a state championship in five A. So to me,

818
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: those two teams were my co number ten Stories of

819
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: the year high school football.

820
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 7: A lot of high school flavor in the ten category.

821
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 7: Four Miles McLaughlin from Mark and I James Wentworth speaking

822
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 7: of last night Raylan Mullins and Luke Irdle in that

823
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 7: epic game in Munthsi's field.

824
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: Number nine.

825
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 8: Is that eighty Mitchell? Or was that just dark countdown?

826
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 8: That wasn't the catch count? No, Jeff, did you see

827
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 8: the touchdown grab?

828
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 5: I did still on Sunday.

829
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 6: I'm not surprised you said that's why you're off yesterday

830
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 6: you went to New York to go buy authentic eighty.

831
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 5: I did have to go buy him a drink. That's

832
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 5: what happened yesterday.

833
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 8: Are the kids getting Ady Mitchell signed jerseys?

834
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe a football who knows.

835
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 7: The Sauce Gardner video of that kid getting the Sauce jersey.

836
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 7: Maybe your sounds goodding Mark.

837
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 8: What he got for number nine? Well, you just kind

838
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 8: of mentioned his name.

839
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 6: The Colts trading for Sauce Gardner is my number nine,

840
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 6: So I might say that seems a little low. I

841
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 6: would also say it's kind of an incomplete because he's

842
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 6: been injured and all that stuff. But sent two future

843
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: first round picks to the New York Jets as well

844
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 6: as ad Mitchell Sauce Gardner to the Colts is my

845
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 6: number nine.

846
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 8: But again, he's been banged up, so I'm.

847
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 6: Kind of it's why it's lower on my top ten

848
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 6: because it happened at the trade deadline. But there also

849
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 6: just hasn't been a lot of body of work that

850
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 6: we've been able to evaluate how good of a trade

851
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 6: this really is. And obviously the injuries to Daniel Jones

852
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 6: and whatnot leave the quarterback situation up in the air

853
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 6: for the Colts.

854
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: So that is my number nine.

855
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 7: You know, one thing I enjoyed doing this, you know,

856
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 7: top ten list every year is like you think of things.

857
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 8: You know, other people have things you didn't think of it.

858
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 7: I didn't even think of that Mark, And like, that

859
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 7: is a great story. I mean, that is a I

860
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 7: mean it's one of the biggest trades in franchise history. Yeah,

861
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 7: so yeah, I think that's very deserving on that list.

862
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: There.

863
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 8: I'll go next.

864
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 7: You know, I would say in the state of Indiana,

865
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 7: arguably the job that has the most at tension on

866
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 7: it which might be changing, is the men's basketball coach

867
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 7: in Bloomington. So when I think of sports stories of

868
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 7: the year, the firing of Mike Woodson, the hiring of

869
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 7: Darren Devrees, to me deserves a spot on the list.

870
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 7: So I went with number nine here the Devirees higher.

871
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 7: I know it maybe didn't come with the fanfare of

872
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 7: other hires. You know, certainly Woodson, you know from a

873
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 7: you know, Hoosier standpoint, former player, speaking of the seventy

874
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 7: sixteen you know that gets you know, put on that list.

875
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 7: But to me, just that new story of still in

876
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 7: our state. While we have a lot of great, great coaches,

877
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 7: whether it is Rick Carlisle or Matt Painter, or Marcus

878
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 7: Freeman or certainly Kurt Signetti, Stephanie White, the list can

879
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 7: go on and on the fact that you are still

880
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 7: the men's basketball coach in Bloomington, I think is a big,

881
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 7: big story. So Mike Woodson out Darren Devrees in number

882
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 7: nine on the list.

883
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 5: For me, JB.

884
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with the high school basketball scene and

885
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: roll with Jeffersonville knocking off Fishers in the Class four

886
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: A state championship ended Fishers in their forty three game

887
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: winning streak, one bybe I believe one in overtime.

888
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: It was that one.

889
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: Tray Singleton, the Northwestern recruit, had a huge game.

890
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: For SIS.

891
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: Yes, so kind of a full circle moment for him.

892
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, just an epic moment. I didn't I went

893
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: to the state finals that day for the early games

894
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: and then watched the I think we had a roach

895
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: over something I might have been like right after the

896
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: next day, so I watched that one and streamed it

897
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: from home via the I say app. But yeah, that

898
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: was great, man. I just enjoyed that atmosphere or the

899
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: entire day. And obviously you get a chance to make

900
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: some history and you go down as a legend and

901
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: we knock off the number one team in the state

902
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: in that fashion.

903
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 4: To win your first state championship in quite some.

904
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: Time, and the head coach coming back to win a

905
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: state championship with his alma mater was just a great

906
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: I was there.

907
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 5: I had a chance to.

908
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: Call that game, and it was it lived up to

909
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: every expectation and billing.

910
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 5: It was a lot.

911
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was, you know, mister basketball.

912
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: And they got that actually stripped from them because of

913
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: some stuff that went down. Didn't have the greatest tenure,

914
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 3: I believe at I you with Bob Knight and really

915
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: had a chance to kind of redeem himself, and he'd

916
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: show that anybody can kind of, you know, rewrite their

917
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: story after willing.

918
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: To love that. My number nine, I'm going to stay

919
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 5: at high school.

920
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: You guys talked about it yesterday, but Miles McLoughlin breaking

921
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: not just the state career rushing record with eleven eight

922
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine yards, but the national single season

923
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: record four eight hundred and forty six rushing yards as

924
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: a senior Knox thirteen and one. They didn't quite get

925
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: to the state championship and win that, but I don't

926
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: know that I've ever seen in my life. Honestly, I've

927
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: never seen a more up close and personal successful high

928
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: school football season.

929
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 5: James just amazing. Might have even been.

930
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: Could have been higher on the list, to be honest

931
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: with you, but I'll put it at my number nine.

932
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: So it's kind of where we're at, and we will

933
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: be counting this down as we get through the end

934
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: of the year. And again, going back to what I

935
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: said at the start, Kevin, there so many great stories

936
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: that you think, Okay, this won't be too bad to

937
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: come up with your top ten. But after the first

938
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: three or four kind of obvious ones. You go, man,

939
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of really great things that happened this

940
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: past year.

941
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, makes for a great debate. Again, I thought Mark

942
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 7: a very nice job and putting that trade on there.

943
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 7: I get there right now. It's a little incomplete, but

944
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 7: just from a news story. I mean it was shockwaves.

945
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 6: Around the NFL and this news came out just now.

946
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 6: It's too late to crack my top ten. But do

947
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 6: you see Cincinnati basketball adding Gisel James to their roster?

948
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 5: Yes?

949
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 8: I did see that.

950
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: The son of Egrin James, the let Love.

951
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 8: It back on their roster.

952
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 7: I believe if I remember correctly of Gigsel's story, if

953
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 7: it wasn't Max, it was going to be Gigsele. So

954
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 7: that was kind of the Bowen family debate we had

955
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 7: a few years ago. So yeah, names it could have

956
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 7: been you know again, girl boy girl, we would have

957
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 7: had maybe a boy here instead of Nelly.

958
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: I don't know.

959
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 8: Is Jigsel unisex name? Can that go both ways?

960
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: I think so?

961
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 5: Sure?

962
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 4: It's whatever you wanted to be.

963
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: Brother, that's a great name and going to Cincinnati agains is.

964
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 8: It on the Burth certificate?

965
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 5: US jizsel Mark, check that out.

966
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, let me look at that.

967
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: I'm sure the computer is gonna love me googling that.

968
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 8: Edrin Gizzle, James Junior, all right as well, test out

969
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 8: the new computers here in the new building. Mark the

970
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 8: firewalls off for now, all right.

971
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: Coming up at a moment, we will get back to

972
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: talking Colts. Stephen Holder stops by. He covers the team

973
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: for ESPN dot com. A frequent guest of ours. We

974
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: always love having him. We'll talk to him about everything

975
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: blue and White. Next ninety three five and one. Good morning,

976
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: and welcome into sage stage that has been set by.

977
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 5: Mark Dyton very well.

978
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers returns last week almost pulls off the incredible

979
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 2: Disney story, but the Seahawks come back and get a

980
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: game winning field goal late and the Colts couldn't quite

981
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: match up with that. But my point last week was

982
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 2: the Matten folks did Philip Rivers no favors on his avatar?

983
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 5: They I thought they exaggerated a little bit of weight

984
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: that he might have put on since the last time

985
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 5: he played James. I thought it was unfair.

986
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: You seem to have really, you know, taken a liking

987
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 3: to this avatar.

988
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: I just was surprised that they went over the top.

989
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: There no avatar up next for our mark out some

990
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 2: of your best works. Of course, you know he's happy

991
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: with too, because it was going on and on and on.

992
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 6: You like there another spin, especially since we're going to

993
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 6: talk colts.

994
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: We're going to talk colts right now with Stephen Holder,

995
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: who covers the team for ESPN dot com and of

996
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: course good friend of the show here this morning.

997
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw that avatar, Stephen, and

998
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 5: I know.

999
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: That Philip Rivers is naturally a little bigger than he

1000
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: was the last time he played, But I thought the

1001
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: mad n avatar was like, let's really exaggerate that.

1002
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 5: What do you have? You even seen that thing? I

1003
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 5: have not.

1004
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 10: But now I feel like I need to find Google

1005
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 10: dot com and you know I have that bookmark, you know,

1006
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 10: So yeah, I need to get on there. I'm going

1007
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 10: along with the Senior Citizen team. You know, he's forty four,

1008
00:43:51,760 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 10: I'm forty something, you know. Never mind, let me know.

1009
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 4: How how old are you, Steven? Should I get you

1010
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 4: a came for Christmas? Let let me know.

1011
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 10: I'm closer. I'm closer to fifty and forty that's for sure.

1012
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: So here's the question.

1013
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: Since you've got a lot of experience watching these things, now,

1014
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: what have we learned in the seventy two hours since

1015
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: the re debut of Philip Rivers here.

1016
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 10: I mean, I thought, if we were just talking about

1017
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 10: that game, and I'll explain why, I think that game

1018
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 10: is a maybe an outlier. That game, I thought it

1019
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 10: it works according to plan almost perfectly. I agree with

1020
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 10: Shane stiking Like and Philip for that matter. I mean

1021
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 10: that's they planned the game plan specifically that way to

1022
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 10: play it close to the vest, don't get crazy, don't

1023
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 10: give them opportunities, and win the field, position, battle time,

1024
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 10: and possession. They did all of that. They did everything

1025
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 10: they needed to do. They just couldn't finish it until

1026
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 10: they lost. But if you're going into that stadium against

1027
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 10: that team with your quarterback situation that they currently had,

1028
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 10: I mean, that was the way to go about it,

1029
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 10: and it almost worked. So now the one thing I

1030
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 10: would say is I think this is the caveat. I

1031
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 10: don't know if they can duplicate that, because you got

1032
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 10: a perfect game from your defense, you had great special

1033
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 10: teams play obviously with the kicking game, and everything fell

1034
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 10: into place that doesn't normally happen, and I don't know

1035
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 10: if they can duplicate that. That's the hard part here.

1036
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: So Stephen, looking at the situation with Rivers, we know

1037
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: that he's going to start Monday night against the forty

1038
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: nine ers. However, we also got an update from Shane

1039
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: Stychen on Monday saying that Anthony Richardson has been clear

1040
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: for physical activities, not practice, not football activities, but he's

1041
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: getting closer to a potential return. So I'm asking you

1042
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: to look into the future a little bit, and let's

1043
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: just say, if Anthony Richardson has his practice window opened

1044
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 3: up next week and he's available to potentially play a game,

1045
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: how much of a conversation do you think that has

1046
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 3: to be between him and Philip Rivers, Because I do

1047
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: think that is a new wrinkle that could arise in

1048
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: the next two weeks or so.

1049
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think it is something to consider.

1050
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 10: I mean there's a chance, okay, just a chance that

1051
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 10: I think that window opens this week. Now. I don't

1052
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 10: know where that stands, but it's not off the table.

1053
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 10: And saying Stiken did kind of I think allow for that, right,

1054
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 10: he didn't rule out this week so I actually think

1055
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 10: that's a conversation. I don't know where it stands, but anyhow,

1056
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 10: it's going to be interesting. And that's why I think

1057
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 10: Monday Night is so important because two things. Number One,

1058
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 10: if they lose, then where are you even at right? Okay?

1059
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 10: Or what are we talking about in terms of postseason?

1060
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 9: Now?

1061
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 10: They may still be mathematically alive, but you know it's

1062
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 10: going to be a long shot. Not that they'll give up,

1063
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 10: but I'm just saying we'll just be real here, right.

1064
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 10: And then secondly, I would say on the other and

1065
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 10: the other factor will be if he doesn't If Philip

1066
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 10: Rivers doesn't play well in that game, well then it

1067
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 10: blunts Shane Stichen's argument that maybe he's our best chance

1068
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 10: to win, because if you have another option, then the

1069
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 10: question becomes, well is he your best chance to win?

1070
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 10: And all of this is very very hypothetical, Okay, make

1071
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 10: Anthony Richardson literally broke his face, right, So I don't

1072
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 10: know is you know, his is his confidence, There is

1073
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 10: his vision, Okay, you know that was affected at least temporarily,

1074
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 10: and that I all these little things that I think

1075
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 10: have have kept them from committing to this. But last thing,

1076
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 10: I'll say is if and when they can get Anthony

1077
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 10: Richardson out there, it's a win win for everybody. It

1078
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 10: really is, because they need to evaluate him, he needs

1079
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 10: to play and get his confidence up. Everybody would benefit.

1080
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 10: So we'll see if it happens. But I think it'd

1081
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 10: be a great thing if the if the situation allows

1082
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 10: for it.

1083
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: I think the one thing that has kind of tripped

1084
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: me up about this whole conversation Stephen and really Joel

1085
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: a Ericson f Mindy star acts Shane this question because

1086
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: hypothetically speaking, if Anthony Richardson is available to play over

1087
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: the next two weeks or so, and your concern is, well,

1088
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: he hasn't played in two months, then the argument is, well,

1089
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: the other guys have been played in five years and

1090
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: you played them, So that is I think an interesting

1091
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: conversation that Shane kind of dismissed Monday. But he won't

1092
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: be able to dismiss that if and when Anthony is

1093
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: available to practice and potentially play.

1094
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 10: Right and and it's if Philip Rivers plays okay and

1095
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 10: an acceptable level, then he can just say, well, you know,

1096
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 10: Philip is his role.

1097
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 4: In right and Again, I would agree with him in

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00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: that regard.

1099
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 10: Yea, I would agree with him there right, But I'm saying,

1100
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 10: but if he does not, and you know, look he's

1101
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 10: still forty four and still can't push the ball down

1102
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 10: the field, those things remain true, then it becomes a

1103
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 10: difficult argument for Shane. And the one thing I will say,

1104
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 10: and I love Shane Syken. I think he's a good coach.

1105
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 10: I think that they have. I think he's he helped

1106
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 10: them become what they became this year before these injuries hit.

1107
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 10: I mean, they're not there without with a different coach.

1108
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 10: I feel like, but I would say this, he's got

1109
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 10: to take his emotions and his friendship out of this

1110
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 10: if it doesn't go well, and that's gonna be very interesting.

1111
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 7: Steven hold it from ESPN with the seriar payless slickers hotline.

1112
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 8: Steven, you think it's fair to say.

1113
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 7: This is shifted more from it only began because Riley

1114
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 7: Leonard banged up his knee to oh no, like we

1115
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 7: need Philip Rivers's juice.

1116
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 10: I have become increasingly more convinced that this has actually

1117
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 10: not that much to do with Riley Leonard in disregard

1118
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 10: meaning it wasn't about the knee and my opinion, I

1119
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 10: would agree, and this is like an educated opinion obviously.

1120
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not just talking that on my rear end.

1121
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 10: And you know that you know the same things that

1122
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 10: I know, right, I mean, they they felt that when

1123
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 10: Daniel Jones went down, they were still in the playoff hunt.

1124
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 10: So the question wasn't oh Ken Riley Leonard play quarterback

1125
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 10: for us? Because technically, yes.

1126
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 5: He could.

1127
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 10: He could step in, he could function, he could run

1128
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 10: the offense, he might even make some plays. Right, Those

1129
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 10: things are all true. The question, though, was a different question.

1130
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 10: The question was could he get us to the playoffs?

1131
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 10: And for them, that answer was probably no period knee

1132
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 10: injury or no injury. That is where they were now.

1133
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 10: I know fans got a glimpse against Jacksonville and they

1134
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 10: felt better about Riley Leonard. All I will tell you

1135
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 10: is that the guy we saw in training camp was

1136
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 10: not capable of doing what would have been asked now

1137
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 10: it did that sort of I don't know half of football.

1138
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 10: Change all of that and change everything they've seen in practice.

1139
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1140
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 10: I don't know. That's up to the coaches, but clearly

1141
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 10: the answer for now is no.

1142
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: Steven Holder. ESPN Dot com on the paylist slickers Hotline.

1143
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: Right now, Steven, you talked about an almost perfect game

1144
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: from the defense and the special teams until it wasn't.

1145
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: In the last two minutes, you had that kickoff that

1146
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 2: was you know, that ended up leading to the game

1147
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: winning field goal for Seattle, and then the defense just

1148
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: couldn't hold at the very end. There, Does that signal

1149
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 2: to you that everything for the Colts to win games

1150
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: moving forward though, all three phases that the coaches like

1151
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: say have to be almost perfect to pull this off.

1152
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 10: Yes, I agree. I think so because, well, first of all,

1153
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 10: when when you're hurt and they are dealing with a

1154
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 10: rash of injuries. Look, I mean, everybody gets hurt. And

1155
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 10: I know I don't like to use this. I don'd

1156
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 10: like to bring this up as a as a reporter

1157
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 10: because it sounds like you're you're making excuses for them.

1158
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 10: But I actually feel like our job as reporters is

1159
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 10: to give context to this situation. Right. True, everybody has injuries,

1160
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 10: but all of their best players are hurt. I mean,

1161
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 10: except for Jonathan Taylor, all of their best players are hurt,

1162
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 10: particularly on defense. So when that's the reality, then you

1163
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 10: have to play at such a high level everywhere else

1164
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 10: to compensate for that. Because your team is built to

1165
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 10: win with your best talent, well the best talent's not

1166
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 10: out there, so you've got to figure out other ways

1167
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 10: to do it. And there is absolutely no margin for error.

1168
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 10: And that's what they have. That's what they've had to

1169
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 10: deal with these last few games. It's just been really,

1170
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 10: really difficult, and that's that's the NFL. You know, you're

1171
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 10: seeing it with a lot of other teams right now.

1172
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 10: I mean the Baltimore Ravens and what they've been through

1173
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 10: this year. You know, they're just hanging on for their life.

1174
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 10: And the reason is largely injuries, you know. So that

1175
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 10: is a fact of life in the NFL. And the

1176
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 10: Colts are getting hit the wrong time, so they have

1177
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 10: to come through in every other facet right now.

1178
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no better example of injuries and overcoming them

1179
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 7: than the Colt's opponent, Frankly, coming up Monday night in

1180
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 7: the San Francisco forty nine ers Steven last one from me,

1181
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 7: going back to Anthony Richardson, if I said fifty chance

1182
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 7: he takes another snap with the Colts, would you say

1183
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 7: over under.

1184
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 10: Hmm?

1185
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 5: I think I think over.

1186
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 10: But it's like fifty two percent, and here's why, or

1187
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 10: fifty one probably Here's why because I think the Daniel

1188
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 10: Jones injury increases the likelihood. I know, I know, I

1189
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 10: know they're really optimistic. Blah blah blah. Everybody's optimistic. Okay,

1190
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 10: the guy ruptured is achilles tendon. That's a difficult injury.

1191
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 10: I hope the best for him, Daniel Jones is is

1192
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 10: going to work. We know this, right, He's going to

1193
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 10: rehab like a maniac. I have no doubt about any

1194
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 10: of that. But mother nature is mother nature, right, so

1195
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 10: we will see. It will be close. For him to

1196
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 10: be ready for opening day is a lot to ask,

1197
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 10: That's all I'm saying. So I just think that increases

1198
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 10: the likelihood at least a little bit. But I do

1199
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 10: think that in the long term, Anthony Richardson and the

1200
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 10: Colts know that they're not committed to him. I don't

1201
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 10: think there's any doubt about that. So he's probably gonna

1202
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 10: want out. I mean, of course he is. No one

1203
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 10: told me that, I have eyes, I have ears. Right,

1204
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 10: he's gonna want out. So will they grant that, and

1205
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 10: will they give him the opportunity to start over? Somewhere else.

1206
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 10: I don't know's that's the question, but this makes it

1207
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 10: a little less likely, is what i'd say, because of

1208
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 10: that injury.

1209
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 5: Steven, thanks as always for stopping by. Appreciate your time,

1210
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 5: and stay stay warm and don't worry.

1211
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 2: About the avatars. Man, You'll be okay. You're not old yet.

1212
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 2: I can promise you that you're not about to hear hurricanes.

1213
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: As much as it pains me to.

1214
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 10: Say it, that is meaningful and that I felt that.

1215
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 5: Thank you. This next story, guys, I've heard.

1216
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: About it a little bit over the years, hadn't paid

1217
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: a ton of attention to it, but then no one.

1218
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Jeff George this morning. I

1219
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: started to do some more research on It's just a

1220
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: very cool story and it's a lot of fun and

1221
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: it's a great way to catch up as well. Jeff George,

1222
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: former quarterback that we all know the story for the

1223
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts and around the National Football League from Indiana,

1224
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: has been up to some great things lately, and we

1225
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: thought we'd talked about that with him, and we invite

1226
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: him now to the show on the Payless Slickers Hotline.

1227
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 5: Good morning, Jeff, how you doing on this Wednesday.

1228
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 9: Good morning, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me again.

1229
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 5: Thanks for being on here. They're calling you the Christmas

1230
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 5: quarterback these days.

1231
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: Could you have imagined that twenty years ago being known

1232
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: as the Christmas quarterback in your home state.

1233
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 9: I know, well, I think that might be. That's a

1234
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 9: good thing to be known for. I guess been doing

1235
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 9: it for quite a while. Just you know, I got

1236
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 9: into the league and came back Andy and obviously played

1237
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 9: for the Colts. Just trying to do some nice things

1238
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 9: around the city, and just like everybody does, not the

1239
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 9: only one that does it, but there's a lot of

1240
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 9: people help out in the community, and it's just that

1241
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 9: time of year, and I just want to help out

1242
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 9: as many families, as many kids as we can. So

1243
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 9: we started, you know, like I said, a long time ago,

1244
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 9: but we had an event three weeks ago out on

1245
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 9: a Walmart and we're able to sponsor about fifty families

1246
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 9: and each family was able to have a nice Christmas.

1247
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 9: Each one got about five hundred dollars a shop at

1248
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 9: a local Walmart, and you know, just not just made

1249
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 9: their day, it made my day as well. So we're

1250
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 9: just trying trying to gin you that tradition and you know,

1251
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 9: take it to the next level and over the course

1252
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 9: of the next year, trying to do a sponsor two

1253
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 9: thousand families that you know, to to allow them to

1254
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 9: have a great Christmas as well. So you know, it's

1255
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 9: getting close. And if anybody out there can just help

1256
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 9: out and you know, do their part and just want

1257
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 9: to donate to a great cause, you know, you can

1258
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 9: go to the Christmas QB dot com and and just

1259
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 9: help out as much you can. So and it's it's

1260
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 9: very much appreciated.

1261
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 3: Again, we have Jeff Georgian the line, and Jeff, I'm

1262
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: actually in Illinois alone James Boyd here and so my

1263
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 3: first knowledge of you was being the number one pick

1264
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: from Mama Mater and so it's kind of, you know,

1265
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: full circle to have you here on the phone lines

1266
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 3: and being Indiana myself working these days.

1267
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 4: And for those listening again, you can go to Christmas.

1268
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 3: QB dot com who want to donate to his great

1269
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: holiday season endeavors. And so, Jeff, let's start with, you know,

1270
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: the wildest story of the NFL this past week, Philip

1271
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: Rivers coming out of retirement to play quarterbacks.

1272
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 4: So I'm looking at you and your resume. Could you

1273
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 4: get back out there at your age?

1274
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 9: You know, I think I probably could have handled the

1275
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 9: game plan last week, and yeah, I'll just just don't

1276
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 9: hit me, you know, I would pretty quick. But but yeah,

1277
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 9: it was you know, it's a really good, feel good story.

1278
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 9: I've been there. I've been there, you know, trying to

1279
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 9: come back at that age and you know, just to

1280
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 9: go out there and staying on the field and you know,

1281
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 9: future Hall of Famer and and all that. That was awesome.

1282
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 9: But but I'm a fan of like, you know, guys

1283
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 9: like Riley Leonard and I'm I'm a big fan of

1284
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 9: Anthony Richardson, and I was really hoping and that that

1285
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 9: Ar would be able to get out there and and

1286
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 9: show what he can do, you know, going through a

1287
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 9: lot with all the injuries he had last year and

1288
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 9: then you know now this year, and I just want

1289
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 9: to see what he can do, you know, big guy,

1290
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 9: big physical guy, big arm. You know, I know everybody

1291
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 9: has weaknesses, but been here a while now and I'm

1292
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 9: excited to get him back out sield. It's great to

1293
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 9: see Philip, you know, especially like I said, I've been

1294
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 9: in that and in his shoes before and went out

1295
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 9: and uh didn't screw anything up you know, last week,

1296
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 9: And I think that's pretty much what they uh uh

1297
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 9: you know wanted with what his job was last week,

1298
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 9: and I almost came away with it. And you know,

1299
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 9: another week of practice, I know he's going to be

1300
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 9: more uh prepared and physically feel a little bit better,

1301
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 9: and I know he's got some confidence. But but man,

1302
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 9: you know, you have a you know, guy like Anthony

1303
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 9: and Richardson, I just uh, especially when you need probably

1304
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 9: two wins out of these next three games with a

1305
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 9: couple of tough defenses coming on, and with what he

1306
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 9: brings and you know, able to run the ball like

1307
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 9: he did last year, it would just be excited to

1308
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 9: see what he can do. And and if he's not

1309
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 9: going to be a future cult, you know, just give

1310
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 9: him an opportunity to go out there and you know,

1311
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 9: for other teams to show what he can do and

1312
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 9: you know, get a chance to play the next ten years.

1313
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 9: But but I'm also you know, a Riley Letter fan,

1314
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 9: you know, a rookie. I know what that what that's

1315
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 9: like playing as a rookie. I've been there as well,

1316
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 9: and you know, started way back in nineteen ninety and

1317
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 9: you know, I know the struggles that you have as

1318
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 9: a rookie as well. But watching him play the couple

1319
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 9: of weeks ago, uh you know, Uh, I know he's young,

1320
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 9: but uh you know he goes fresh legs, and you

1321
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 9: know he's been there in the in the many camps

1322
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 9: and the off season training camp and uh you know

1323
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 9: why uh he wouldn't get an opportunity as well. But

1324
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 9: I understand each situation. But for me, you know, a

1325
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 9: Colt san just want to see, uh see Anthony Richard

1326
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 9: gets get out there and just see what he can do.

1327
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 8: You know that voice quite well.

1328
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 7: It is Jeff George with us here and as we've

1329
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 7: talked about the Christmas QB just awesome, awesome work he's

1330
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 7: doing here locally, movement designed to bring hope to families

1331
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 7: who are struggling during Christmas mark If you can, let's

1332
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 7: tweet that out Christmas QB dot com where people can

1333
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 7: go and help out here in the season of giving.

1334
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Speaker 5: Jeff.

1335
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 7: Going back to what you saw Sunday from the Colts, Uh,

1336
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 7: Shane Sakin was pretty adamant that the offensive game plan

1337
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 7: will change and can be different based off what you

1338
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 7: saw out of Philip Rivers do you think there's more

1339
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 7: down the field with him at quarterback?

1340
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 9: Well, there has to be. It has to be. Are

1341
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 9: they you know the outcome will be uh, you know

1342
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 9: five six field goals, you know, Uh, in the game,

1343
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 9: you know you have to push the ball downfield. Obviously

1344
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 9: you utilize uh Jonathan Taylor. Uh, you know the best

1345
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 9: backs in the league. Defense was playing great, especially since

1346
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 9: they're missing all the key players on defense, but they

1347
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 9: stepped up in Seattle. You know, I played in Seattle.

1348
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 9: I know how hard it is to play in Seattle

1349
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 9: with the crowd and as hot as Seattle was and

1350
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 9: you come away with uh, you know, you should have won.

1351
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 9: You know you have to. Uh. You know, I'm not

1352
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 9: putting blame on anybody, but when you hold uh an

1353
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 9: offense like like that under uh, you know what, they

1354
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 9: have six six field goals, you hold them to no touchdowns,

1355
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 9: you have to come away with a win. So you

1356
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 9: know it Uh, it was, it was. It was a

1357
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 9: great game. But you know they they definitely have to

1358
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 9: push the ball downfield. They have to get to their weapons.

1359
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 9: Pierce is Uh. Everybody knows you have to you just

1360
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 9: throw it up to Pierce down the field. He's gonna

1361
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 9: go up and get it. And you know Michael Pittman

1362
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 9: is just uh to your steady receiver and you got

1363
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 9: you know, quick Josh downs Man, you have to utilize that.

1364
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 9: You have to attack the middle, you know, like you

1365
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 9: know they're uh when you play the Colts, you know

1366
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 9: they're gonna think, now you have to stop Jonathan Taylor

1367
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 9: and uh, you know right rightfully. So, but man, if

1368
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 9: you can just uh, you know, attack that middle and uh,

1369
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 9: you know, go to your big guys and just trust

1370
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 9: them that they're gonna make plays, that's the only way

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 9: they're gonna win the game. So, uh, game plan has

1372
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 9: to be different. I know Shane probably knows that, not

1373
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 9: telling him anything he doesn't know, but yeah, it has

1374
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 9: to changed a little bit.

1375
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: Jeff James had mentioned, of course, reminding everybody you'd played

1376
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: at Illinois and and you know the Big Ten quite well.

1377
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 5: Have you been keeping up with the Indiana Hoosiers this year?

1378
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 9: Man? I have who has it? You know, I'm a uh,

1379
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 9: I'm a who Hoo Hoosiers fan, and but you know

1380
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 9: I've always followed the Hoosiers that heck, I go way

1381
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 9: back when Sam White or Lee Corso actually was here.

1382
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 9: But when when I was at sophomore, I remember at

1383
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 9: Warren Central, uh, Sam Whites was the head coach for

1384
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 9: one year, and coming from the NFL, coming from the

1385
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 9: San Francisco forty nine ers, and you know, being around

1386
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 9: you know, Joe Montanges of the world. You know, I

1387
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 9: thought that at that time Indiana Wash you know, it

1388
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 9: was a great school. And then he you know, it

1389
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 9: was a one year and then he left. But but

1390
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 9: it obviously worked out for me going Illinois as a

1391
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 9: great time and uh, we had some pretty good years.

1392
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 9: But yeah, I do follow him. You know what a

1393
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 9: great kid Fernando uh Mendoza is and comes from a

1394
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 9: great family, which I love. I love to see because

1395
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 9: I felt like, you know, I come from a great

1396
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 9: family as well, and you just love to see kids

1397
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 9: like that. I love listening to to him talk. I

1398
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 9: love his interviews. It's uh, you know, it's just genuine

1399
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 9: and authentic and and just nowadays, you just don't see

1400
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 9: that in a lot of these kids. And to see

1401
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 9: him and the way he talks and the way he's

1402
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 9: you know, proud who's you're coming from. You know what

1403
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 9: he's only been here one year, and how the city's uh,

1404
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 9: taking him on and how he's taken all the city

1405
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 9: and uh, to be a Heisman after one year, that's

1406
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 9: pretty incredible. So my, uh, my hat's off to him

1407
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 9: and uh and sigte what I what uh personality he is.

1408
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 9: You love seeing him getting interviewed because he never see

1409
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 9: the man smile And ten minutes, ten seconds ago in

1410
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 9: the game and you're up by five touchdowns and you're

1411
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 9: still chewing out the players and uh, you know that

1412
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 9: just uh you know, demands respect. So uh, you know,

1413
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 9: those are kind of guys you just kind of like

1414
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 9: play for. So hopefully they can they can keep it

1415
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 9: going and keep winning. And because that's a great story

1416
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 9: for you know, not just then, but for everybody Indiana

1417
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 9: that has followed and has struggled being an Indiana fan

1418
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 9: all those years. Anybody's been a fan, you know, so

1419
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 9: it's always you know, I feel like they're always like

1420
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 9: five hundred team and just to get over that, huh,

1421
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 9: playing behind Notre Dame and Purdue, and but now they're

1422
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 9: the team and to be number one, Wow, that's pretty incredible.

1423
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 9: So yeah, I have followed them. I'm excited to watch

1424
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 9: them and see where they go from here and again.

1425
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: We're talking to Jeff George D. Christmas, QB, the nineteen

1426
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: ninety number one pick and also the future Colts quarterback

1427
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: because he's coming out of retirement here in about a week.

1428
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: He's just waiting to announce it here on our airwaves.

1429
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, the last thing I leave you

1430
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: with is what we started with, and that is your

1431
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 3: Christmas endeavors. And from what I understand, you all partner

1432
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 3: with the Department of Child Services and try to help

1433
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: families that are going to some tough times this time

1434
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: of year.

1435
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 4: So A, why did you start this whole thing?

1436
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: And then B what have you perhaps gained from this

1437
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 3: and what perspective you gained from just this whole process.

1438
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 9: Well, I'm not looking to gain anything, you know. It's

1439
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 9: my uh I think when you I've said this before,

1440
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 9: like when you play, when I played, especially, it was

1441
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 9: I was always about football and always about my faith,

1442
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 9: my family and football, and and uh never wanted any

1443
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 9: type of recognition, you know. It's you know, that's not

1444
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 9: what the Good Lord wants for anybody. Hey, you just

1445
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 9: do it because you do it in goodness, out of

1446
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 9: your heart. And like I said, I'm not the only

1447
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 9: one that helps out in the command. There's so many

1448
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 9: other people and and I just want to do my part.

1449
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 9: And I think that's you know, if I'm given a

1450
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 9: platform like I have all these years. You know I

1451
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 9: did it privately, yes, and did all that, but uh,

1452
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 9: now I need I need the help I need. Uh.

1453
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 9: I'm not trying to recognize people recognize me for what

1454
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 9: I do. I'm trying to help that family get recognized.

1455
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 9: And uh, you know that need it more than than anybody.

1456
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 9: You know, it's not just not just during Christmas that

1457
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 9: they need to help. It's it's throughout the whole year,

1458
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 9: whether they need uh uh you know electric bill paid

1459
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 9: or a gas bill paid or rent aid.

1460
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 10: We just want to raise.

1461
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 9: As much money to help these families. And DCS has

1462
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 9: been great partner with them and all that they do.

1463
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 9: Many they're they're the ones that are kind of the

1464
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 9: heroes that behind that. I'm just trying to help help

1465
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 9: them along. And but the main thing is to recognize

1466
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 9: these kids that that might not have a Christmas. If

1467
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 9: we can come in and just help that family and

1468
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 9: give them a great Christmas, put a smile on those kids'

1469
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 9: faces and the mom and dad put a smile on

1470
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 9: their faces and then just saying hey, you know, thank you.

1471
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 9: I you know, we we don't have to worry about uh,

1472
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 9: you know, heat in our house this year. We don't

1473
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 9: have to you know you and we can pay the rent.

1474
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 9: We know where we're going to be this month. So

1475
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 9: it's just the things like that that I think that

1476
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 9: it's a small part that I'm doing and absolutely want

1477
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 9: no recognition. I know, I'm you know, doing interviews like this,

1478
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 9: but it's people like you guys that can help us

1479
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 9: get the word out and to help those families and

1480
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 9: recognize those families that need it more than anything, especially

1481
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 9: this time of year.

1482
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: And Jeff, for people who want to find out more

1483
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: information on this, how they can help out, what's the

1484
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: best place to go.

1485
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 9: Well, the best place is just what you've been saying,

1486
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 9: CHRISTMASQB dot com and you can just donate right there

1487
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 9: and it, uh one hundred percent absolutely goes to all

1488
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 9: those families. And uh, you know, we have a week

1489
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 9: and a half left u up to Christmas, so we're

1490
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 9: trying to get as much and and help as many

1491
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 9: fans as we can. And then, like I said, it's

1492
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 9: going to continue on after that. But uh uh, the

1493
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,479
Speaker 9: next step, the next goal is to help as many

1494
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 9: many families, many kids as we can. The next uh

1495
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 9: you know, eight nine days.

1496
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: Great stuff. We'll keep the track of it and we'll

1497
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 2: talk to you again soon. You can buy any time

1498
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: you'd like to.

1499
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 5: All right, that'd be great.

1500
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 9: I'm heading out. I'm gonna go out and throwing the snow.

1501
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 5: I'm and go welcome, We got.

1502
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 9: There, we go.

1503
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 4: Jeff represent for you know, il.

1504
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 9: Baby, and I you know, I'm you know, I know

1505
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 9: we're indoors this week, but man, come out, come out

1506
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 9: and watch me at this high school. I can still sling.

1507
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 8: I like it.

1508
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 5: Talk to you to buddy, Okay, thanks