WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers Praise 

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was just something that the PassPod, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Brad and the guys had been working on with Coker,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had it up and down the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. It looked like it would be a good

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<v Speaker 1>matchup in that area. And then Bryce did a great

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<v Speaker 1>job of extending the play so Jalen can find a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more space.

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<v Speaker 2>On that one. Oh, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Coker in the backfield on a huge third down

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<v Speaker 3>play in our own territory.

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<v Speaker 4>Mismatch.

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<v Speaker 3>Shakes and bakes the linebacker, Zach Bond. 32-yard play. Brad

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<v Speaker 3>Idzik was in his bag yesterday, man. There's about five

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<v Speaker 3>or six moments where, you know, I think we notice

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<v Speaker 3>as fans or maybe Ross Tucker points out, hey, look

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<v Speaker 3>what Idzik's doing here. It was far from a perfect

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<v Speaker 3>game with 149 penalty yards, most in franchise history. But

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to give some love to Brad Idzik. There

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<v Speaker 3>was some beautiful stuff schematically yesterday, and there was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of other stuff to love on. It is time

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<v Speaker 3>for our weekly 7 o'clock segment, which could be triggering

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<v Speaker 3>and anger-filled, or it can be a joy. This week,

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<v Speaker 3>it's who to give love to. It's not who to blame.

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<v Speaker 3>It's who to give love and credit to for the Panthers'

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<v Speaker 3>win in Philadelphia. I am now doing the show with

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<v Speaker 3>a man in an Eagles costume, ladies and gentlemen. You

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<v Speaker 3>look like the Eagles mascot on the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to flap my wings like the St.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe's hawk, but I got about four in there. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm winded. Here's a problem, though. I ordered this off Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>This is for the victory dance today. I may have

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<v Speaker 2>got the women's outfit, Matt, because this thing is awfully

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<v Speaker 2>snug here. Let's just say my... Let's just say... The

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<v Speaker 2>bird's nest area is a little bit not good here.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you're wondering why is Bone dressing up as

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<v Speaker 3>an eagle, this is part of our victory dance later.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to have to watch it on social media.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to have to see. But I would not

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<v Speaker 3>mind recreating the Tommy Tremble, Jalen Coker, Rocky celebration on

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<v Speaker 3>this bird over here.

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<v Speaker 2>During the victory dance. And shout out to Jose from

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon because I had to order this. Well, I ordered

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<v Speaker 2>this in the middle of the game, which I know

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<v Speaker 2>is dangerous, but I felt yesterday. They overcame it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty confident, but yet for it to be here overnight,

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<v Speaker 2>Jose at Amazon Mac was 12 stops away. When I

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<v Speaker 2>woke up this morning, I thought there's no way he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get that to the front door by the

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<v Speaker 2>time I have to leave. I don't know what Jose

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<v Speaker 2>was doing, man. He got there in about 20 minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if he was just throwing stuff

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<v Speaker 2>out the window. Jose got it done, baby. Jose knew

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<v Speaker 2>that this bird costume. was the most important thing in

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<v Speaker 2>charlotte all day seth and concord the chicken nuggets are

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<v Speaker 2>snug is what it's terming right now all right baby

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<v Speaker 2>so who are we giving credit to you'll see the

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<v Speaker 2>eagle um uh the eagle will um uh we'll lay

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<v Speaker 2>we'll try to land during the victory dance and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens to them later on today right now

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about our panthers getting this win and who

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to give love to i thought there were

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<v Speaker 2>other examples two bone of brad idzik and creativity. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the use of Tommy Tremble in the fullback role.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved the two calls on the two Tremble touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one, they do the delay where he looks

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<v Speaker 2>like he's blocking. And next thing you know, he's wheeling

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<v Speaker 2>out for a touchdown. To me, that was a scheme touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also thought his second one was a scheme touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>The way they kind of roll Bryce out one way,

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<v Speaker 2>not a complete throwback, But throwing it back to the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the field, and Cooper Dejean was completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Fooled by that play as well. And I think there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of– I shouldn't say a lot, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was like five, six examples. And for

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<v Speaker 3>people that are like football offensive schematic geniuses, they could

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<v Speaker 3>probably show you a lot more.

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<v Speaker 4>The use of motion, too.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw it, and Ross Tucker pointed this one out, too,

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<v Speaker 3>where they motioned– I think it was Mechie wide. The

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<v Speaker 3>corner then leaves– TMAC in the slot goes outside, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you've got TMAC on Makuba, the safety.

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<v Speaker 4>Corner route, 18 yards, bang.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it's just, I just, I think Idzik was cooking,

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<v Speaker 3>and this wasn't the prettiest game, Bone, but I still

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<v Speaker 3>think there are some really cool things you can point

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<v Speaker 3>to in there in this Panthers win, man.

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<v Speaker 2>There was. We also can't forget that the Panthers, the

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles are banged up, but the Panthers are also missing

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Jack and Horn. And I don't care what team

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<v Speaker 2>they're playing against. You take away, Mac, these 75 yards

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<v Speaker 2>that Devontae Smith had. They held the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>wideouts for the Eagles to 115 yards. Excuse me, 145 yards.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty darn good right there. So for a secondary

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<v Speaker 2>that we're worried about, yes, Devontae Smith didn't really have

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest impact per se, one touchdown. But the other guys, matchup-wise,

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<v Speaker 2>Wicks and Cooper and those guys, they could have had

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<v Speaker 2>some days. But the secondary for the Panthers did a

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<v Speaker 2>really good job, and that's not even our main guys.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and Will Lee's getting love on the text line,

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<v Speaker 3>and he deserves it. Listen, I know the PFF, you

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<v Speaker 3>go look at PFF today, it's going to say seven completions.

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<v Speaker 3>in 13 attempts they went after will lee over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again um unlike last week when they went after

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<v Speaker 3>evans over and over again i thought will lee held

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<v Speaker 3>up really well especially considering was devante smith their best

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<v Speaker 3>receiver most of the time bone um he had two

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<v Speaker 3>pass breakups uh he was he had a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>penalties but i'm with canalis those penalties are because he's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a jc horn I would love to tell

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<v Speaker 3>a physical guy to rein it in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't tell a non-physical corner to get physical. If

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<v Speaker 3>it's not in his DNA, it's not his DNA. But

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<v Speaker 3>you've got a guy like that that's physical, got swag

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<v Speaker 3>like that. Give me that in a rookie. He's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a good one. And dare I say, I

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<v Speaker 3>could see them. I love Mike Jack, but I could

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<v Speaker 3>see them try to save money on Mike Jack. and

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<v Speaker 3>make Horn a starter, or make Lee a starter, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I thought he fought, competed, and was real good, man.

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<v Speaker 2>We've said that with these injuries, there's opportunity for guys

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<v Speaker 2>to get better. And yes, it's a negative that those

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<v Speaker 2>guys are out, but can it be a positive that

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<v Speaker 2>guys like Will Lee have to play bigger roles sooner

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<v Speaker 2>than we thought. Ultimately, that's how you're a good organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Will Lee plays well. Next thing you know, you save

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<v Speaker 2>money there. So I think that's something to monitor for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you also.

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<v Speaker 3>The blanket and the seatbelt's a great combo. And listen,

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<v Speaker 3>Evans gave up only three completions. Evans, it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he was not exposed. Again, it wasn't, it was far

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<v Speaker 3>from the Detroit game. Like, you know, we'll see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens to Evans against Green Bay because they were going off,

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<v Speaker 3>love downfield to.

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<v Speaker 4>Those wideouts yesterday again, last night again.

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<v Speaker 3>Against Dallas. But for last night, Evans hung in there

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<v Speaker 3>pretty well. I also think the blitzes, Averro blitzing 57%

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<v Speaker 3>of the time, Bone, I think was a key in

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<v Speaker 3>this game. I think it was the perfect game plan.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would wonder, was that the game plan for Hertz?

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<v Speaker 3>Or was that game plan changed at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the week? Because that was the perfect way to play

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<v Speaker 3>it against a rookie quarterback, a young quarterback that's a statue.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't going anywhere. You could tee the hell off

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<v Speaker 3>on him. He was not escaping you. And I thought

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<v Speaker 3>the blitzing of the linebackers, I think PFF's initial numbers

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<v Speaker 3>had it 16 times each for Okereke and Lloyd. And

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<v Speaker 3>it resulted, Bone... And all three of our sacks came

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<v Speaker 3>on blitzes. Okereke and Lloyd each had one. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think Okereke twice hit the arm of McKee as he

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<v Speaker 3>was throwing, forcing an incompletion. So I do think they

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<v Speaker 3>helped their corners with the use of the blitzes. And

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<v Speaker 3>these linebackers, KB brought it up during the pregame show yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>and they went out there and played like that. Our linebackers,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Dan Morgan in one offseason has completely turned

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<v Speaker 3>it from a weakness to a strength.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, 100%. What about a tip of the hat, Mac,

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm clapping with my... Eagle wings? My eagle wings.

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<v Speaker 2>You can hear me clapping with my wings.

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<v Speaker 3>And we will raise you up on eagle's wings. Anybody

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<v Speaker 3>else a Catholic that spent a lot of time in church?

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody know a little eagle's wings?

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<v Speaker 2>Chuba goes for 120 in a touchdown, 4.3 yards per carry.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think all those yards were impactful because of

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<v Speaker 2>the way that he ran and how he set the tone. So...

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<v Speaker 2>I think stats are great, but I thought Chuba's physical presence,

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<v Speaker 2>most like Tremble, was a huge difference in that game yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 3>We punked them in the trenches, as we should. Their

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line is a skeleton crew. And look what we

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<v Speaker 3>did to the run game again. 36 yards rushing. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the problem is, Bone, we're still only down to like

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<v Speaker 3>27th in run defense because the first game giving up 291.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be crawling out of that hole all year. But, Bone,

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<v Speaker 3>we gave up less than 50 yards rushing the last

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just weird. We're stuffing it again.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand Phillies down their fourth string back and their

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<v Speaker 3>O-line stinks, but that's what you should do. The defense

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<v Speaker 3>dominated them, and that's what you should freaking do. I

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<v Speaker 3>personally believe their first touchdown dry bone was aided by

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<v Speaker 3>some garbage from the refs and the fact that Canales

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<v Speaker 3>did not get a challenge in bone on that non-catch.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that also was a big play on that drive.

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<v Speaker 3>They went so fast to the line of scrimmage. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>teams lollygag. I think they just thought they had more time.

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<v Speaker 3>The Eagles went so fast on that. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 3>were sprinting to the line.

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<v Speaker 2>They did, and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't on our sideline. I think it was on our

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<v Speaker 3>sideline because if you see, Pat Jones knew it was

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<v Speaker 3>not a catch. He was standing there watching it, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's trying to say no catch, but it wasn't our sideline,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm guessing it's harder for him to convey that

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<v Speaker 3>to the coaches that quick on the other side, Lee

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter getting some love from Seth and Concord. That pressure

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<v Speaker 3>he had where he just beat the... I mean, just tossed,

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<v Speaker 3>went through the offensive lineman and hit the quarterback was tremendous.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a team effort on defense, although we do

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<v Speaker 3>have Ron the Plumber talking about the waste of money

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Phillips is. Keep in mind, Jalen Phillips had to

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<v Speaker 3>leave the game for a while because of the hamstring

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<v Speaker 3>injury he was questionable with. Came back in, was involved

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<v Speaker 3>on the play, the sack with Merrig. But he is

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<v Speaker 3>getting hated on playing injured by Rondo. That's Rondo Plummer's

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<v Speaker 3>takeaway today, Bone, is Jalen Phillips is paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Too much money. What a kill. You must be fun

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<v Speaker 2>at parties, Rondo. Rondo Plummer's never got out of work

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<v Speaker 2>one day in his life. That crack's been exposed for decades.

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<v Speaker 3>Ron, at a party, you must be a killjoy. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>talking about good stuff and you bring up something negative.

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<v Speaker 3>Although I will say you would come in handy if

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<v Speaker 3>someone clogs a toilet at a party. You would definitely

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<v Speaker 3>come in handy there. By the way, Ron, stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>Finney needs your number. Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think, man? Who are you giving the

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<v Speaker 3>love to for the Panthers win? Tremble. We raved about

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<v Speaker 3>in hour one some of the blocking he and Evans

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<v Speaker 3>did out front of Chuba. It's that physicality in the

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<v Speaker 3>running game. They have to figure out a way to

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<v Speaker 3>run in the first half. Eight carries for 24 yards

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<v Speaker 3>thrown at halftime. But Chuba ends up with 96 yards

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<v Speaker 3>in the second half.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the trend. They've got to find a way to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the running game going a little bit sooner. Bryce Young,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the craziest thing. Bryce threw for 281. Two touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest number is no picks. He continues to protect

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<v Speaker 3>this football so well. He made a bunch, Boney, of

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<v Speaker 3>really nice throws to T-Mac and Coker over the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the field or on the sidelines. He would have

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<v Speaker 3>been over. 300, but he lost a big one to

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<v Speaker 3>Evans on what looked like it was a screen, but

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce saw that, oh, shoot, they're worried about the screen

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<v Speaker 3>that we're setting up, and Evans is downfield. That would

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<v Speaker 3>have put him over. 300, but that came back on

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<v Speaker 3>a Robert Hunt– ineligible man downfield i don't understand why

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<v Speaker 3>two things i didn't understand yesterday why robert hunt keeps

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<v Speaker 3>getting these penalties it's like he just learned the rule

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<v Speaker 3>last week what's going on here and the other thing

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<v Speaker 3>is i did not understand we were getting so many

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<v Speaker 3>good returns even david morse trot down the sideline bone

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<v Speaker 3>hn had a great had multiple great returns we could

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<v Speaker 3>barely do any of them without any penalties But again,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess there's something to be said, Bone. For 149

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<v Speaker 3>yards on 13 penalties, you win by 11 on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something to be said for that. Mack, they have

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<v Speaker 3>three turnovers this year. Bryce has the two INTs.

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<v Speaker 2>There are no... Knock on some... some wood over there

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<v Speaker 2>but uh there's not been a running back fumble at

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<v Speaker 2>all not even not even when they got back and

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<v Speaker 2>there's been four fumbles by wideouts they've only lost one

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<v Speaker 2>of them that is uh it's not yeah i was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking yesterday it's not just bryce's turnovers they're not they're

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<v Speaker 2>protecting the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball overall this year they are man and even the

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<v Speaker 3>bryce interceptions we talked about it last week yeah one

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<v Speaker 3>of them is at the end of was at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of chic was a chicago first half Yes, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Where he's just like, let me see if we can

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<v Speaker 3>get in field goal range.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to chuck it. If not, there's only seconds left.

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<v Speaker 3>And Cleveland at the end. And Cleveland is the one

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<v Speaker 3>who got his arm hit and the ball flew up

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<v Speaker 3>in the air. So those aren't even really like legit, terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>like mistakenly interceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to be near the top of the lead

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<v Speaker 2>for fewest turnovers, right? I would guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, definitely. I will look that up, Bonesarelli. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>really type right now with my wings on. Because eagle's

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<v Speaker 3>wings don't type well? We have a big meeting today.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to meet sponsors and stuff and hang out

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<v Speaker 3>for a while. Are you going to wear that outfit?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember I wore my pilgrim outfit for one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things and DJ Stout said, why are you dressed like

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<v Speaker 2>a pilgrim today? I think I should wear this. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>see here.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody is saying what you were saying, Bone, about Chuba,

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<v Speaker 3>about him getting better as the game goes on. You

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<v Speaker 3>guys are both right about it. I do think they

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<v Speaker 3>have to find a way to balance the offense out

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<v Speaker 3>more in the first half, but there is a thing

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<v Speaker 3>where they do like kind of riding him home.

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<v Speaker 4>For lack of a better phrase, in the second half

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<v Speaker 4>of his game.

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<v Speaker 2>He's our Uber. Chuba Uber Hubbard.

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<v Speaker 4>Uber Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard.

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<v Speaker 5>It almost feels like, Mac, in a league where you

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<v Speaker 5>run to set up the pass, it feels like the

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<v Speaker 5>Panthers pass to set up their run game.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I was frustrated, too, in the first half, because

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<v Speaker 4>whenever we ran it, I felt like we were getting

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<v Speaker 4>good push.

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<v Speaker 5>Where we get a bad penalty that would negate a

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<v Speaker 5>good run. But they had a drive 743 off the clock,

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<v Speaker 5>longest drive of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>Their ability to wear.

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<v Speaker 5>Down opponents, I think, is something that's a part of

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<v Speaker 5>their identity and the type of team that they want

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<v Speaker 5>to be. You want to be able to run the

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<v Speaker 5>ball in the first half, obviously. But if that's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a part of their DNA, home and on

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<v Speaker 5>the road, They're.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to be a tough team to beat moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>The combination of the deep passing game, Bone, the aggressive

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<v Speaker 3>passing game, the RPO game, the boot game, and the run.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got different ways to beat you as an offense.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this stat that I just looked up here?

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<v Speaker 2>In the first half of games this year, Chuba's at

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<v Speaker 2>2.9 yards per carry and a touchdown. The second half

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<v Speaker 2>of games... 6.1 yards per carry, three touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 4>There it is right there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got 105 in the first half, 321 in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it right there. They've got to find a way

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<v Speaker 4>to balance it.

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<v Speaker 3>But to Fitty's point, you run the ball on teams

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<v Speaker 3>in the second half, wear them down. There's something to

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<v Speaker 3>be said for that. They are seventh bone in turnovers.

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<v Speaker 3>This thing actually has them with a fourth turnover somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we have a special teams? Yeah, that could be it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a special.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a fumble against the Lions, was it not?

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<v Speaker 4>Special teams?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. Punt touch. The fumble punt, right?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was against the Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>First game of the year. Didn't we have a fumble punt?

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<v Speaker 2>Or Bears.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it Bears? Jimmy Horn, right? Jimmy Horn, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Jimmy Horn left the punt, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>the last time we saw him. That's true. They said,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to end up in Cleveland, son. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>serious they take turnovers. Jimmy Horn had one, and he's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Four and five games. That's pretty damn solid. We are

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<v Speaker 3>getting some of these. A lot of y'all are just

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<v Speaker 3>naming players. Okereke's getting a lot. Will Lee's getting a lot. Chuba, Tremble.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting a— I don't want to say a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to overdo it.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a few of the, we really excited about

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<v Speaker 3>that win? We're going to have to deal with that

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<v Speaker 3>energy today, Boney. Like, yes, we are, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you not? You can't have it both ways.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't be the fan base that is paranoid going

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<v Speaker 3>into a game against a backup quarterback. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>you win the game by 11, despite 149 yards of penalties,

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<v Speaker 3>then pull the card where it's like, ah, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>enough style points for me.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't play both those games.

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<v Speaker 5>You only get 17 of these things. You're not guaranteed

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<v Speaker 5>a win every single time. If nothing else, look at

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<v Speaker 5>who you beat. You beat the Eagles. You beat Nick Sirianni.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't give a damn that they're compromised, Mac.

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<v Speaker 4>Nor should you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're not excited, you look like a damn fool today, right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you look almost as foolish as Bone does in his costume. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully I'm dressed like a pirate next week.

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<v Speaker 5>These are people that just wanted to see the team

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<v Speaker 5>lose so they could flood our text line, flood our

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<v Speaker 5>phone calls, and bitch and complain.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do this. Get some fresh air.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do this. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got plenty of time to deal with that whole

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<v Speaker 3>style points thing and all that. Let's give love to

0:17:42.710 --> 0:17:44.250
<v Speaker 3>Taylor Moten. A lot of people saying that on the

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<v Speaker 3>text line. Timo, real solid game from him. Not perfect,

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<v Speaker 3>but real freaking solid. My God, it was great to

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<v Speaker 3>have him back out there. I'm so happy for him

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<v Speaker 3>personally that he's back out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk to Jim Zoki coming up next. Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>your writing on the text line wants you to send

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<v Speaker 2>us out with your version of Cry Eagles Cry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Cry Eagles cry on the way to a defeat.

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<v Speaker 2>Cry Eagles fly. Oh, I said fly. Cry Rex Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>likes feet.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really know what.

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<v Speaker 3>That had to do with anything. It's the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>I can think of to rhyme with defeat. Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 3>just go to break real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry about that. Oh, man, rock and roll it.

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<v Speaker 3>Panther, Victory Monday, ladies and gentlemen. Mack and Bone Show,

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<v Speaker 3>we having a good old time today. Panthers to three

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<v Speaker 3>and two, over 500. Bebop said, when was the last

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<v Speaker 3>time we were over? We got Jim Zoki here, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to fact check with Zoki and the Panther

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<v Speaker 3>Radio Network. He says, man, it must be a long

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<v Speaker 3>time since we've been over 500. Weren't we over 500 last.

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<v Speaker 4>Year at 4-3? I think so. We can check it out.

0:19:16.780 --> 0:19:19.050
<v Speaker 5>They were 1-3, then they won 3 straight to get

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<v Speaker 5>to 4-3. That's then when the win one, lose one.

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<v Speaker 2>Byron Goodman said, is this the biggest win of the

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce era? And I had to point out the Rams

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<v Speaker 2>and Packers games last year. This is a... This is

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<v Speaker 2>against a name-brand team, but we've also got to keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind of who they are. They had the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>wins last year. Definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>And I believe so fully there are big wins coming

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<v Speaker 3>this year from this team. I like the way they're

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<v Speaker 3>coming together. It wasn't perfect, obviously, 149 yards of penalties.

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<v Speaker 3>but I like is that that's a game I ask

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<v Speaker 3>in the past the Panthers could probably find a way

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<v Speaker 3>to mess that up in the past you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they ended up taking care of business.

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<v Speaker 6>No and you think of like so what were the

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<v Speaker 6>149 yards 149 13 13 Philadelphia by the way had

0:20:05.420 --> 0:20:06.949
<v Speaker 6>11 for 84 they helped us a little bit too

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<v Speaker 6>the referees were like the constant show and I think

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<v Speaker 6>Dave Kanellis was right like the penalties were pretty much

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<v Speaker 6>well earned you can't even argue them.

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<v Speaker 2>But some of them had to be like, really?

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<v Speaker 6>They could not spot the ball. You would see guys

0:20:19.340 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 6>fall down, and they'd be like two yards off. They'd

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<v Speaker 6>look at either their left eye or their right eye

0:20:23.350 --> 0:20:25.490
<v Speaker 6>when they're marking the ball down on the field. But

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<v Speaker 6>the thing is, like, beyond those, I was going to

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<v Speaker 6>say beyond the 149 penalty yards, how much actual, like,

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<v Speaker 6>yardage was lost, like, on the three returns, the punt

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<v Speaker 6>and kick returns? Like, the actual yardage on top of, like,

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<v Speaker 6>the penalty yardage, like, yeah, how much field position did

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<v Speaker 6>you actually lose?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to know the number because that was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge setback.

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking at the, what the hell they call

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<v Speaker 4>that thing, Bone, you print out? The game, what? Why

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<v Speaker 4>is it so hard?

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<v Speaker 2>The stats? The box score. Okay, but they call it

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<v Speaker 2>something else. The game book.

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<v Speaker 4>Game book, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway. The football thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at the game book.

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<v Speaker 3>They won starting field position by 10 yards. Our 31,

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<v Speaker 3>theirs was their 21. Imagine what it could have been

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<v Speaker 3>with those returns.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt.

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously, we won it by 20 yards.

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<v Speaker 6>That bodes well, too, because think how that was also

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<v Speaker 6>a problem earlier on. And having A-Chan back, he looked

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<v Speaker 6>very comfortable back there.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. And obviously, I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>To me, I think you've got a couple guys. David

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<v Speaker 6>Moore had a nice return, another one that was called

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<v Speaker 6>back by a penalty. So it would be nice to

0:21:16.770 --> 0:21:18.790
<v Speaker 6>have had that field position. I think the outcome would

0:21:18.810 --> 0:21:21.810
<v Speaker 6>have been decided earlier and easier had you had those

0:21:21.830 --> 0:21:23.910
<v Speaker 6>things happen. But it's nice that you can win by

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<v Speaker 6>11 and still overcome all those kind of obstacles out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. You guys are correct. It was a year ago,

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<v Speaker 2>4-3 over. 500, October of 2025. So you were exactly

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<v Speaker 2>spot on there. From your game notes. How– How important

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<v Speaker 2>is it for a team trying to still establish their

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<v Speaker 2>winning culture, their identity, to have games like yesterday when

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<v Speaker 2>there is a lot going against you? To win when

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<v Speaker 2>you're not at your best is actually a sign of

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<v Speaker 2>really good things to come, right? They didn't do it

0:21:55.030 --> 0:21:57.690
<v Speaker 2>against Cleveland. They did it yesterday. No, that was, yeah,

0:21:57.730 --> 0:22:00.340
<v Speaker 2>that was one of those. Cleveland's weird. They won again yesterday.

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.380
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how they're winning games. It doesn't

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:03.679
<v Speaker 2>seem like a terrible loss right now.

0:22:04.140 --> 0:22:06.460
<v Speaker 6>No, because, and I say that about Cleveland, their defense

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 6>is really good, and they did a great job, if

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.320
<v Speaker 6>you remember, like with Denzel Ward shutting down T-Mac.

0:22:10.420 --> 0:22:13.850
<v Speaker 3>And Coker went out. I think that was a big factor.

0:22:13.890 --> 0:22:14.670
<v Speaker 3>We didn't have him.

0:22:14.750 --> 0:22:17.370
<v Speaker 2>Right. Everyone focuses on Deshaun Watts. That's a good defense.

0:22:17.430 --> 0:22:19.930
<v Speaker 6>I think with Philadelphia, that was a really good defense, too,

0:22:20.369 --> 0:22:22.510
<v Speaker 6>and that's why it made it more difficult to win yesterday.

0:22:22.930 --> 0:22:25.489
<v Speaker 6>But you can see, even with the Panthers winning, you

0:22:25.510 --> 0:22:28.390
<v Speaker 6>still have the difficulty, although Will Lee showed strides yesterday,

0:22:28.450 --> 0:22:31.659
<v Speaker 6>if you don't have J.C. Horn and Mike Jack replacements

0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:32.200
<v Speaker 6>to that level.

0:22:32.869 --> 0:22:33.710
<v Speaker 2>And so it was better.

0:22:33.810 --> 0:22:36.170
<v Speaker 6>Obviously, we didn't call Evan's name as much yesterday in

0:22:36.430 --> 0:22:38.609
<v Speaker 6>the game as we did the previous one with the

0:22:38.650 --> 0:22:40.750
<v Speaker 6>win with Detroit the week before.

0:22:40.790 --> 0:22:41.330
<v Speaker 2>Two weeks before.

0:22:41.890 --> 0:22:43.590
<v Speaker 6>But I think, you know, again, that's still like you

0:22:43.609 --> 0:22:45.669
<v Speaker 6>can see that's like the thing, like how can we

0:22:45.710 --> 0:22:48.420
<v Speaker 6>get through these next whatever five games, whatever the number

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.380
<v Speaker 6>might be, with not having the same level right there.

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.179
<v Speaker 2>And Will Lee is growing up quickly. I think he

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 2>did some good things.

0:22:53.820 --> 0:22:56.460
<v Speaker 6>The two early penalties obviously hurt, but maybe better to

0:22:56.500 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 6>get those penalties and give up a long touchdown or

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 6>something like that. So I do like the fact that

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.330
<v Speaker 6>we're seeing some growth there, but it's all happening on

0:23:03.350 --> 0:23:04.810
<v Speaker 6>the field while you're still trying to win games.

0:23:05.130 --> 0:23:08.980
<v Speaker 3>What did you think about Chuba in the second half?

0:23:09.580 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 3>And Tommy Tremble. I mean, these are two guys. First

0:23:11.900 --> 0:23:13.660
<v Speaker 3>of all, they're like best buds by all accounts.

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:15.830
<v Speaker 2>These are Matt Rule era players.

0:23:15.850 --> 0:23:16.290
<v Speaker 3>They are.

0:23:16.350 --> 0:23:18.310
<v Speaker 2>They are, man.

0:23:18.390 --> 0:23:21.970
<v Speaker 3>Matt Rule players actually sticking around for the turnover.

0:23:22.010 --> 0:23:24.130
<v Speaker 2>Think about what these guys have seen and won't talk

0:23:24.150 --> 0:23:24.450
<v Speaker 2>about it.

0:23:25.090 --> 0:23:27.190
<v Speaker 4>And they've lived to tell about it and play well

0:23:27.230 --> 0:23:27.630
<v Speaker 4>in Philly.

0:23:27.670 --> 0:23:29.230
<v Speaker 2>They both probably feel like they're like 58 years old.

0:23:30.100 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 2>I remember back when Matt Rule was here. They've been

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 2>here for a while, and I feel like they're both

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of underrated. Well, and look at what Chuba did yesterday.

0:23:37.820 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 6>He basically was the entire rushing attack because you had

0:23:40.380 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 6>Bryce had to run it three times, but it was

0:23:42.020 --> 0:23:44.450
<v Speaker 6>only six yards. A-Chan only ran it once for a

0:23:44.490 --> 0:23:46.590
<v Speaker 6>negative carry. And then we had Mitchell Evans, you know,

0:23:46.690 --> 0:23:48.550
<v Speaker 6>jump in with the quarterback sneak, if you will.

0:23:48.630 --> 0:23:49.670
<v Speaker 4>Mitchell Palooza back.

0:23:49.730 --> 0:23:52.649
<v Speaker 6>It was entirely on Chuba to run the ball yesterday,

0:23:52.650 --> 0:23:56.090
<v Speaker 6>28 times, 120 yards. And then Trumbull just is like,

0:23:56.190 --> 0:23:58.639
<v Speaker 6>I've always liked the fact that when you have a

0:23:58.660 --> 0:24:00.300
<v Speaker 6>tight end that you don't know what his role is

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.460
<v Speaker 6>going to be on a given play. Like Darren Waller

0:24:02.500 --> 0:24:04.879
<v Speaker 6>is a terrific player. But when Trumbull's out there and

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.640
<v Speaker 6>Mitchell Evans to a larger degree, too, is he a blocker?

0:24:07.700 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 6>Is he a pass receiver? I think that's what's great

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 6>about that when they do the 13 personnel where it

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.740
<v Speaker 6>makes it so difficult to judge for a defense what's

0:24:14.770 --> 0:24:17.200
<v Speaker 6>going to happen out there because you kind of, you

0:24:17.220 --> 0:24:19.869
<v Speaker 6>try to, now with Coker healthy, you've got T-Mac, you've

0:24:19.890 --> 0:24:22.590
<v Speaker 6>got Coker, times where Waller's out there with those other

0:24:22.609 --> 0:24:24.470
<v Speaker 6>tight ends. Who are you going to cover? And it's

0:24:24.490 --> 0:24:26.510
<v Speaker 6>going to give Tommy a lot more opportunities. I'm glad

0:24:26.550 --> 0:24:28.209
<v Speaker 6>to see him get an advantage of that. And he

0:24:28.270 --> 0:24:30.490
<v Speaker 6>is a good catcher. I mean, he does a good job,

0:24:30.530 --> 0:24:32.510
<v Speaker 6>I think, in the receiving end. He doesn't really drop many,

0:24:32.550 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 6>I don't think, so I think He's a nice weapon

0:24:34.420 --> 0:24:37.430
<v Speaker 6>to have because we focus so much on the big

0:24:37.490 --> 0:24:40.050
<v Speaker 6>plays of T-Mac and Coker and so forth. You need

0:24:40.070 --> 0:24:42.050
<v Speaker 6>those guys to pick up first downs or get in

0:24:42.070 --> 0:24:43.590
<v Speaker 6>the red zone like that and get a touchdown or two.

0:24:43.630 --> 0:24:45.810
<v Speaker 2>What did you think of the job that Will Lee

0:24:45.850 --> 0:24:48.310
<v Speaker 2>did yesterday? And how big is that to have a

0:24:48.350 --> 0:24:51.070
<v Speaker 2>guy play well without the other guys in there? So

0:24:51.109 --> 0:24:53.430
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like a blessing in disguise that when Horn

0:24:53.470 --> 0:24:55.610
<v Speaker 2>and Mike Jack come back, all of a sudden you've

0:24:55.630 --> 0:24:57.490
<v Speaker 2>got another guy playing at a high level. No doubt.

0:24:57.510 --> 0:24:59.709
<v Speaker 6>And again, like some early penalties, but then those went

0:24:59.750 --> 0:25:01.570
<v Speaker 6>away as the game went on. And, you know, we

0:25:01.590 --> 0:25:04.170
<v Speaker 6>all know certain players are good. Devontae Smith's a good player.

0:25:04.190 --> 0:25:06.810
<v Speaker 6>When you see him in person and watch him run routes,

0:25:06.850 --> 0:25:08.490
<v Speaker 6>you go, that guy's really good.

0:25:08.770 --> 0:25:10.409
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he is every bit as good as A.J.

0:25:10.450 --> 0:25:13.169
<v Speaker 6>Brown was when he was there, is Devontae Smith. So

0:25:13.210 --> 0:25:15.880
<v Speaker 6>that's a tough assignment that was mostly going to Willie

0:25:15.900 --> 0:25:16.460
<v Speaker 6>Lee yesterday.

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:17.780
<v Speaker 2>And he held it in there, I think.

0:25:17.820 --> 0:25:19.940
<v Speaker 6>And you have to be aggressive, and you're going to

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:21.780
<v Speaker 6>probably get away with a little hand fighting and things

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:22.180
<v Speaker 6>like that.

0:25:22.260 --> 0:25:25.379
<v Speaker 2>And it kind of goes back and forth. So you

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:25.980
<v Speaker 2>take your penalties.

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.770
<v Speaker 6>But better that than just playing loose and giving big

0:25:28.810 --> 0:25:30.570
<v Speaker 6>buffer and letting him have all this room to catch

0:25:30.590 --> 0:25:32.450
<v Speaker 6>the ball out there. I like that he was aggressive

0:25:32.470 --> 0:25:33.659
<v Speaker 6>in his approach the way he defended him.

0:25:33.810 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you who else was aggressive is Juro Avera

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:40.379
<v Speaker 3>with the blitzes. PFF's in-game kind of stuff. We'll see

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 3>what their final numbers are. They had it at 57%

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:47.869
<v Speaker 3>blitz rate. Okereke and Lloyd, they started going after the

0:25:47.890 --> 0:25:51.110
<v Speaker 3>quarterback early and often. Okereke on the first play gets

0:25:51.190 --> 0:25:53.610
<v Speaker 3>a sack. Those guys are really good, and I think

0:25:53.650 --> 0:25:57.410
<v Speaker 3>that helped our corners on the back end. What did

0:25:57.430 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 3>you think about that aspect of things?

0:25:59.190 --> 0:25:59.590
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:01.100
<v Speaker 6>You think of that first sack, it was him and

0:26:01.140 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 6>Nick Scott both coming. That's how aggressive it was. They

0:26:03.220 --> 0:26:05.820
<v Speaker 6>sent through to the same slot, and then, of course,

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.460
<v Speaker 6>Okereke could have had an interception on the second play

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.230
<v Speaker 6>of the game, which Really would have set the tone

0:26:10.270 --> 0:26:10.950
<v Speaker 6>early on with that.

0:26:10.990 --> 0:26:11.889
<v Speaker 2>But I love that.

0:26:11.950 --> 0:26:13.810
<v Speaker 6>I think that's what, you know, Joe's always wanted to

0:26:13.869 --> 0:26:16.310
<v Speaker 6>do with this defense. But when you don't have the personnel,

0:26:16.630 --> 0:26:18.869
<v Speaker 6>you can't risk giving up the big plays on the

0:26:18.910 --> 0:26:22.250
<v Speaker 6>back half of the defense there. So, again, especially when

0:26:22.270 --> 0:26:24.930
<v Speaker 6>they do get J.C. Horn and you get Mike Jack back,

0:26:24.970 --> 0:26:27.470
<v Speaker 6>you can be even more aggressive, have even more confidence

0:26:27.490 --> 0:26:29.930
<v Speaker 6>about your success rate in doing that. But that's always

0:26:29.950 --> 0:26:31.850
<v Speaker 6>been his style. That's what he's always wanted to do there.

0:26:32.270 --> 0:26:34.360
<v Speaker 6>And how cool is it, too, that we have, you know,

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:37.230
<v Speaker 6>Rod and Devin Lloyd, well-known in the offseason, but get

0:26:37.300 --> 0:26:39.820
<v Speaker 6>Bobby Okereke off the couch at home at the last

0:26:39.859 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 6>minute to get a player of that caliber to pair

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.540
<v Speaker 6>with Devin Lloyd on the inside just makes that whole

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:45.380
<v Speaker 6>defense feel different.

0:26:45.420 --> 0:26:47.750
<v Speaker 2>And Dodson as a backup ain't chopped liver either.

0:26:47.810 --> 0:26:54.230
<v Speaker 3>At 120-plus tackles last year, they got him, too, in reserve.

0:26:54.590 --> 0:26:58.690
<v Speaker 3>That is linebacker room, home makeover edition, Bob. They completely

0:26:58.750 --> 0:26:59.610
<v Speaker 3>redid that.

0:26:59.470 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 4>In a flash.

0:27:00.340 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 2>So any reason why Rob Hunt keeps wandering downfield, he's

0:27:04.220 --> 0:27:06.459
<v Speaker 2>like my great-uncle Augie at Thanksgiving back in the day

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 2>when he'd wander outside and we'd have to get him

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.500
<v Speaker 2>back inside the house. I think the bigger issue is

0:27:09.540 --> 0:27:11.660
<v Speaker 2>he was raising his right hand as if he was open, like,

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm open.

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:14.990
<v Speaker 6>And then he realized that's not his role in the offense.

0:27:15.030 --> 0:27:16.780
<v Speaker 2>He's not allowed to do that. So it is.

0:27:17.130 --> 0:27:19.330
<v Speaker 6>He's had a couple this year in different situations. That's

0:27:19.350 --> 0:27:21.250
<v Speaker 6>not the first time, even those two in this game.

0:27:21.270 --> 0:27:21.790
<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting.

0:27:21.810 --> 0:27:22.910
<v Speaker 4>He had one against Detroit, too.

0:27:23.010 --> 0:27:24.790
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We got a runner. We got a runner.

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 6>But he's walking off. But in that mode, though, how great.

0:27:30.060 --> 0:27:31.860
<v Speaker 6>And just hearing the joy in his voice as we

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:33.900
<v Speaker 6>talked to him in the postgame was Taylor Moten having

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 6>him back. I mean, a guy that didn't know, first

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.379
<v Speaker 6>of all, what his health situation was going to be, period,

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.020
<v Speaker 6>let alone football situation, just like in life, what his

0:27:41.060 --> 0:27:43.010
<v Speaker 6>health situation was going to be back. And then defensively

0:27:43.050 --> 0:27:45.130
<v Speaker 6>to get Turk Wharton back for the first time as well.

0:27:45.510 --> 0:27:47.710
<v Speaker 6>Turk had a play you probably saw work. He had, like,

0:27:47.730 --> 0:27:49.750
<v Speaker 6>two offensive linemen on him, and he literally shoved them

0:27:49.850 --> 0:27:51.830
<v Speaker 6>off to the side, to the right, and then went

0:27:51.850 --> 0:27:52.990
<v Speaker 6>to the left to make the stop.

0:27:53.010 --> 0:27:53.750
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a good play.

0:27:53.869 --> 0:27:56.290
<v Speaker 6>These guys matter, and they're like, you know, these are

0:27:56.310 --> 0:27:58.350
<v Speaker 6>veteran guys that are, again, just going to help you

0:27:58.609 --> 0:28:01.030
<v Speaker 6>be better on those interior positions and just free up

0:28:01.290 --> 0:28:03.969
<v Speaker 6>other guys, like Okereke, like Devin Lloyd, to make big

0:28:04.010 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 6>plays on defense. And then offensively, having stability there, you know,

0:28:07.130 --> 0:28:09.940
<v Speaker 6>Monroe Freeling not healthy right now, but you can see, again,

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.659
<v Speaker 6>like Willie, he's learning and growing and making mistakes, and

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.449
<v Speaker 6>you're kind of living with those. I was shocked at

0:28:15.590 --> 0:28:19.030
<v Speaker 6>Morton's ability to come out there with, I would have

0:28:19.050 --> 0:28:21.670
<v Speaker 6>to say, you know, not playing football all this time.

0:28:21.690 --> 0:28:23.670
<v Speaker 6>He didn't have training camp to come in and be

0:28:23.690 --> 0:28:25.050
<v Speaker 6>able to play the amount of football that he played.

0:28:25.130 --> 0:28:26.790
<v Speaker 2>He did. And he was real solid too.

0:28:26.890 --> 0:28:29.900
<v Speaker 3>Like, I mean, I think PFF had him like with

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:30.580
<v Speaker 3>two pressures.

0:28:30.740 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 4>I didn't really notice them.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 3>It was, you know, you would, you would have just

0:28:34.420 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 3>thought it was a regular Taylor Moten football game.

0:28:36.420 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.300
<v Speaker 6>That's a, that's a huge relief to get him back

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.510
<v Speaker 6>out there. So, And then when Monroe is healthy, I'll

0:28:41.530 --> 0:28:43.750
<v Speaker 6>obviously give you some depth as maybe a swing tackle,

0:28:43.790 --> 0:28:46.370
<v Speaker 6>something like that. So I think, you know, things, hopefully,

0:28:46.430 --> 0:28:48.270
<v Speaker 6>I feel like, you know, I know Philadelphia is banged

0:28:48.390 --> 0:28:50.890
<v Speaker 6>up and they've got probably the worst situation in the

0:28:50.930 --> 0:28:52.690
<v Speaker 6>league as far as injuries go. But people forget from

0:28:52.730 --> 0:28:55.030
<v Speaker 6>day one of training camp, that was the Panthers. And

0:28:55.130 --> 0:28:57.250
<v Speaker 6>for them to be 3-2 in overcoming the number of

0:28:57.290 --> 0:28:58.290
<v Speaker 6>injuries they've had is terrific.

0:28:58.410 --> 0:29:02.030
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so close to 4-1, too. That Browns game,

0:29:02.350 --> 0:29:04.970
<v Speaker 3>it came down to a penalty another day. We lead

0:29:04.990 --> 0:29:07.719
<v Speaker 3>the NFL in penalties if we don't commit that one

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 3>where we hit Watson up high.

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.900
<v Speaker 6>Side note, I'm watching last night. I'm watching the Cowboys-Packers game.

0:29:15.940 --> 0:29:16.500
<v Speaker 2>It was both sides.

0:29:17.500 --> 0:29:20.650
<v Speaker 6>Can we dial down what the rule is for— you know,

0:29:20.670 --> 0:29:22.430
<v Speaker 6>hitting the quarterback. I just feel like it's just like,

0:29:22.470 --> 0:29:24.590
<v Speaker 6>it's not football. It's just so much. And going back

0:29:24.610 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 6>to the Deshaun Watson play that you're referring to, I

0:29:27.100 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 6>just see it so much where it just takes so much.

0:29:28.980 --> 0:29:31.300
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if it's not something that's actually hurting the quarterback,

0:29:31.700 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 6>if you're tapping someone's helmet, like you're just touching the

0:29:33.980 --> 0:29:37.370
<v Speaker 6>quarterback too late, if you're not landing, I get the

0:29:37.390 --> 0:29:39.910
<v Speaker 6>whole landing of the entire body on there or whatever.

0:29:39.990 --> 0:29:41.930
<v Speaker 6>on top of the quarterback and the weight. But there

0:29:41.950 --> 0:29:44.130
<v Speaker 6>are so many plays where you're just going, it's so ticky-tacky.

0:29:44.350 --> 0:29:47.050
<v Speaker 6>They've got to somehow dial it back to where football

0:29:47.070 --> 0:29:47.930
<v Speaker 6>still looks like football.

0:29:47.970 --> 0:29:50.730
<v Speaker 4>And Bryce gets these, too, Bob. Bryce had one yesterday, too.

0:29:50.770 --> 0:29:54.130
<v Speaker 3>The tap to the face mask or the tap to

0:29:54.150 --> 0:29:54.950
<v Speaker 3>the side of the helmet.

0:29:54.970 --> 0:29:56.870
<v Speaker 2>There should be a certain amount of aggression that should

0:29:56.890 --> 0:29:59.290
<v Speaker 2>be a part of that. It shouldn't be a tickle.

0:29:59.550 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>I know I'm putting— We have 15 yards for tickling.

0:30:03.740 --> 0:30:04.890
<v Speaker 2>It's like the kids in the backseat of the car.

0:30:04.900 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 2>He's touching me. Stop.

0:30:06.140 --> 0:30:08.140
<v Speaker 4>It's the new tickle me QB doll. You know what

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:09.020
<v Speaker 4>I mean? It's crazy.

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:10.850
<v Speaker 2>It should be.

0:30:11.270 --> 0:30:13.230
<v Speaker 3>Could you put a judgment call in there where it's

0:30:13.430 --> 0:30:14.690
<v Speaker 3>forcible contact to the head?

0:30:15.330 --> 0:30:17.450
<v Speaker 2>Then you call it, but in your, you know what

0:30:17.470 --> 0:30:17.650
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

0:30:17.670 --> 0:30:19.950
<v Speaker 3>I know we're giving them more responsibility, but it seems

0:30:19.990 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 3>like some of these little grazing should not be.

0:30:22.090 --> 0:30:24.050
<v Speaker 2>It's gone too far. Deshaun Watson was a great example

0:30:24.090 --> 0:30:24.810
<v Speaker 2>of that. You know the.

0:30:24.710 --> 0:30:27.850
<v Speaker 3>Penalty I hated yesterday? First of all, Will Lee, I thought, granted,

0:30:27.870 --> 0:30:29.690
<v Speaker 3>he tried to pants a man on live TV.

0:30:30.210 --> 0:30:32.570
<v Speaker 2>But I thought that's defensive hold, right?

0:30:32.590 --> 0:30:33.570
<v Speaker 4>The ball wasn't thrown yet.

0:30:33.590 --> 0:30:35.660
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that defensive hold? That was about as egregious of

0:30:35.710 --> 0:30:38.220
<v Speaker 2>a hold as you could have, yes. But not P.I., though.

0:30:38.620 --> 0:30:41.940
<v Speaker 2>But the one that killed me was. That was public embarrassment.

0:30:42.220 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Public pantsing.

0:30:45.060 --> 0:30:46.220
<v Speaker 4>Illegal use of cheeks.

0:30:47.260 --> 0:30:48.740
<v Speaker 2>No, the Tommy Tremble.

0:30:49.500 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 3>Just a really quick point at Cooper DeGene after he

0:30:52.140 --> 0:30:55.850
<v Speaker 3>scores a touchdown, and that's a penalty. These are grown men.

0:30:56.290 --> 0:30:59.470
<v Speaker 3>Are there little feelings getting heard out there? He pointed

0:30:59.530 --> 0:31:00.990
<v Speaker 3>at him for one second. And he said it was

0:31:01.010 --> 0:31:03.590
<v Speaker 3>for the previous suplex that happened. He did, and that's

0:31:03.610 --> 0:31:05.610
<v Speaker 3>why he did it. He said, I shouldn't do it.

0:31:05.630 --> 0:31:07.710
<v Speaker 3>To be taunting is like you're standing over a player.

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:09.260
<v Speaker 3>It's got to be more of a deal.

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Than that. At least hit him with the football or

0:31:11.620 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>something after you score, like something more. I get it.

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 4>I get it with the football. I'm like, come on, man.

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 4>Do we need to do that?

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Like in peewee football, I get it if you want

0:31:19.460 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>to tell a kid, hey, don't point to him like that.

0:31:21.700 --> 0:31:22.660
<v Speaker 2>These are grown dudes.

0:31:22.700 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Are we really ruining the world if Tommy Tremble for

0:31:25.380 --> 0:31:26.340
<v Speaker 3>a second points.

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.810
<v Speaker 2>To Cooper DeGene? Children are watching. How do you explain that?

0:31:28.870 --> 0:31:31.510
<v Speaker 2>How do you explain to someone young that this guy

0:31:31.550 --> 0:31:32.550
<v Speaker 2>here pointed at somebody?

0:31:32.590 --> 0:31:35.170
<v Speaker 4>Daddy Raj has to raise everybody's.

0:31:34.830 --> 0:31:38.170
<v Speaker 2>Kids, apparently. It is.

0:31:38.250 --> 0:31:40.860
<v Speaker 6>It's like there's an energy that goes away, like a

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.940
<v Speaker 6>home or away in a stadium where there's a big

0:31:42.980 --> 0:31:44.910
<v Speaker 6>play made and here come the penalty flags. And I

0:31:44.950 --> 0:31:47.230
<v Speaker 6>get they have to call the way the rules are written, but.

0:31:47.630 --> 0:31:49.490
<v Speaker 6>I think it's time to kind of look back at

0:31:49.530 --> 0:31:51.150
<v Speaker 6>putting it somewhere between where it is and where it

0:31:51.230 --> 0:31:52.130
<v Speaker 6>used to be with some of these rules.

0:31:52.150 --> 0:31:54.410
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching the play right now where Idzik had Coker

0:31:54.430 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 2>in the backfield, one-on-one with the linebacker. Beautiful, dude. And

0:31:57.100 --> 0:32:00.180
<v Speaker 2>the time of that play, too, 13-7. You're backed up

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 2>third and eight, and you pull that one out there. Beautiful. Man, oh, man.

0:32:03.580 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 3>And watch Bryce move to give him more time to

0:32:05.780 --> 0:32:08.820
<v Speaker 3>put that little shake on Zach Bond. Bryce buys a

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 3>little bit of time, then hits him.

0:32:10.300 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>It was beautiful.

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.220
<v Speaker 4>Idzik was in his bag. I talked about it earlier

0:32:13.260 --> 0:32:15.540
<v Speaker 4>this hour. There's about five, six plays where I'm like,

0:32:15.780 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Both touchdowns to Tremble felt schemey.

0:32:17.660 --> 0:32:18.580
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

0:32:18.660 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 6>He's scaring me because I feel like, can we lock

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.570
<v Speaker 6>him up to the longest offensive coordinator contract? Because he's

0:32:24.620 --> 0:32:26.530
<v Speaker 6>right in that mode of what teams are looking for.

0:32:26.550 --> 0:32:30.250
<v Speaker 6>These young, aggressive play callers. You see the improvement. We're

0:32:30.290 --> 0:32:33.310
<v Speaker 6>talking about Bryce Young being an MVP. Obviously, that's going

0:32:33.330 --> 0:32:37.230
<v Speaker 6>to get attention everywhere. So good for him, whatever ends

0:32:37.270 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 6>up happening with him. He deserves it, but he's right

0:32:40.100 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 6>in that mode of what today's NFL teams are looking

0:32:42.260 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 6>for as far as that next Ben Johnson, guys like that.

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.090
<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of hoping we can squeeze an extra year

0:32:47.180 --> 0:32:47.770
<v Speaker 4>out of.

0:32:49.270 --> 0:32:51.690
<v Speaker 2>Him. I'd like to get kind of two out of

0:32:51.730 --> 0:32:52.770
<v Speaker 2>him if possible.

0:32:52.790 --> 0:32:55.650
<v Speaker 3>I know I'm assuming that his offense keeps bowling for

0:32:55.670 --> 0:32:57.810
<v Speaker 3>the next couple of years, but I also do want

0:32:57.830 --> 0:33:00.590
<v Speaker 3>to remind everybody, when you're actually good, this is what happens.

0:33:00.630 --> 0:33:02.570
<v Speaker 4>I know it's been so long for us. But when

0:33:02.590 --> 0:33:04.190
<v Speaker 4>you're actually good, they want your coaches.

0:33:04.470 --> 0:33:04.690
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:33:04.730 --> 0:33:06.430
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? It's a weird thing.

0:33:06.470 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a great compliment. It's a great compliment.

0:33:08.380 --> 0:33:08.510
<v Speaker 5>It is.

0:33:08.580 --> 0:33:10.940
<v Speaker 6>And obviously with Canales, I mean, they're pretty much in lockstep.

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:12.980
<v Speaker 6>So whatever the offense is, it's going to still have

0:33:13.020 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 6>that same kind of feel to it, whatever it is.

0:33:15.140 --> 0:33:19.060
<v Speaker 3>I think they might promote from within. Like a, what's

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.700
<v Speaker 3>my man's name? Hariger's one, the QB coach. What's my

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 3>other man's name? The one they retained by giving him

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:24.180
<v Speaker 3>a promotion?

0:33:24.740 --> 0:33:25.300
<v Speaker 2>Blutarski?

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 4>Not Blutarski.

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>What the hell? I don't think there's a guy named Blutarski.

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.780
<v Speaker 2>That was from Animal House, I believe. It definitely was.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.100
<v Speaker 2>Mike Bercovici is his name. ECU Memphis Thursday.

0:33:35.780 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Night, right?

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:33:37.020 --> 0:33:40.570
<v Speaker 6>This conference, real quick, is ECU devastating loss. They had

0:33:40.590 --> 0:33:42.650
<v Speaker 6>the lead until they didn't in the last minute. They

0:33:42.690 --> 0:33:45.850
<v Speaker 6>lose in overtime on the road at UAB. Memphis loses

0:33:45.930 --> 0:33:48.830
<v Speaker 6>by two touchdowns to Tulane. And the Charlotte 49ers, as

0:33:48.850 --> 0:33:50.650
<v Speaker 6>you know, in that same field where the Panthers won.

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.300
<v Speaker 6>win over Temple, get their first win of the year.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 6>Memphis and Charlotte were the top and bottom, and both

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.290
<v Speaker 6>did the exact opposite. So a lot of parity within

0:33:58.310 --> 0:33:59.190
<v Speaker 6>the American Conference.

0:33:59.210 --> 0:34:01.930
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you next week, man. Appreciate it. When

0:34:01.970 --> 0:34:04.370
<v Speaker 2>we come back, it's an Ask the Audience question, courtesy

0:34:04.390 --> 0:34:08.530
<v Speaker 2>of QC Mechanical, your local HVAC experts. It was probably

0:34:08.570 --> 0:34:12.180
<v Speaker 2>Bryce's worst stat day, but the numbers still look good,

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and he continues to set records. What do we think

0:34:15.140 --> 0:34:18.259
<v Speaker 2>of Bryce on this Panther Monday? Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.

0:34:22.510 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 6>Guitar solo.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.180
<v Speaker 7>Look, I've been a Bryce Young critic in the past.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 7>I'm not going to hide from that. But he's making

0:34:52.890 --> 0:34:55.290
<v Speaker 7>people like me eat my words. And I think he's

0:34:55.310 --> 0:34:57.190
<v Speaker 7>playing really good football right now.

0:34:57.250 --> 0:34:57.969
<v Speaker 4>He's confident.

0:34:58.690 --> 0:35:00.350
<v Speaker 7>He's making the throws when he needs to.

0:35:00.730 --> 0:35:01.890
<v Speaker 2>He hits the open guy.

0:35:01.969 --> 0:35:04.610
<v Speaker 7>He goes through his progressions. And Bryce, sure he had

0:35:04.630 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 7>a couple passes, you know, knocked down at the line

0:35:06.660 --> 0:35:08.700
<v Speaker 7>of scrimmage today. But that's going to happen when you

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.660
<v Speaker 7>have a 5'11 quarterback. The bottom line is he's playing

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 7>really good football. And I'm going to give him all

0:35:15.580 --> 0:35:18.830
<v Speaker 7>the credit. And dare I say it, he's in the MVP.

0:35:19.010 --> 0:35:20.750
<v Speaker 2>Yes! I'm sorry.

0:35:20.830 --> 0:35:24.509
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. You just scared the whole world on that one.

0:35:24.530 --> 0:35:28.020
<v Speaker 2>Good, good, because you literally took the words right off

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.299
<v Speaker 2>of my paper. Bryce Young needs to be in the

0:35:31.489 --> 0:35:32.750
<v Speaker 2>MVP conversation.

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:36.420
<v Speaker 4>There you go. Got to be honest, I'm not sure

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.390
<v Speaker 4>who that CBS employee is there at the end.

0:35:38.410 --> 0:35:40.509
<v Speaker 2>Was that Justin Simmons? He's on there quite a bit.

0:35:40.530 --> 0:35:43.609
<v Speaker 2>Former DB. I believe it might be.

0:35:43.810 --> 0:35:44.489
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's him.

0:35:44.969 --> 0:35:47.710
<v Speaker 3>But your first guy there was Pete Prisco, one of

0:35:47.770 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 3>the most annoying curmudgeons when it came to Bryce Young

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 3>for the first three years of his career. And he says,

0:35:56.020 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm eating my words and Bryce is feeding them to me.

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.240
<v Speaker 4>And he's an MVP candidate. And that's beautiful.

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 3>And maybe one day some of y'all knuckleheads on the

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 3>text line can follow his lead. Maybe it can happen

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.819
<v Speaker 3>for you, too. But we got to talk about Bryce's game.

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:11.700
<v Speaker 3>And I think a lot of y'all are summing it

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 3>up well. Bryce goes out there, a lot of incompletions, right?

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>20 of 39.

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.460
<v Speaker 3>A lot of them were throwaways again where he didn't

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.140
<v Speaker 3>have anything. And I thought, unlike the Cleveland game, Bone,

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 3>where he threw the ball away a lot and had

0:36:24.820 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 3>a lot of incompletions because of the pressure. This one

0:36:28.660 --> 0:36:31.569
<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel like was pressure as much. I feel

0:36:31.590 --> 0:36:34.130
<v Speaker 3>like they were doing a good job cuffering downfield a

0:36:34.170 --> 0:36:38.010
<v Speaker 3>lot where Bryce just didn't have anything. And then just

0:36:38.030 --> 0:36:40.029
<v Speaker 3>kind of either hits the escape hatch and throws it

0:36:40.070 --> 0:36:42.469
<v Speaker 3>away or just kind of, and they credited him on

0:36:42.510 --> 0:36:45.509
<v Speaker 3>PFF with six throwaways. I bet it's even more like,

0:36:45.910 --> 0:36:48.110
<v Speaker 3>I don't think, I think there's some where Bryce puts

0:36:48.219 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 3>it like, unlike his grounding, puts it in the area

0:36:51.580 --> 0:36:53.439
<v Speaker 3>and it almost makes it look like he missed the throw.

0:36:54.130 --> 0:36:56.330
<v Speaker 3>but he knows it's covered and he's just not going

0:36:56.350 --> 0:36:58.390
<v Speaker 3>to make a mistake. It goes back to the fact

0:36:58.410 --> 0:37:02.029
<v Speaker 3>that he only has two turnovers this season. But he

0:37:02.050 --> 0:37:04.910
<v Speaker 3>ended up with two touchdowns, bone to Tommy Tremble, ended

0:37:04.969 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 3>up with 281 yards. There were still a fair amount

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.940
<v Speaker 3>of really good throws. I think he hit five in

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.700
<v Speaker 3>the intermediate and two deep where he was hitting Coker

0:37:14.739 --> 0:37:18.420
<v Speaker 3>or TMAC over the middle or on the sidelines. I

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.340
<v Speaker 3>think the texters that are sending a text in, and

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 3>there's a bunch of you that are saying, if this

0:37:23.900 --> 0:37:29.569
<v Speaker 3>is now Bryce's quote-unquote bad game, that is a major sign.

0:37:29.650 --> 0:37:31.610
<v Speaker 3>I think Barron said it, a major sign of progression

0:37:31.650 --> 0:37:32.130
<v Speaker 3>for Bryce.

0:37:32.210 --> 0:37:35.810
<v Speaker 2>First of all, it's a great thing that a— The

0:37:35.910 --> 0:37:38.370
<v Speaker 2>only man in America, Mac, that is actually a foot

0:37:38.430 --> 0:37:41.210
<v Speaker 2>shorter than Bryce Young, give him credit there. That's from

0:37:41.230 --> 0:37:46.930
<v Speaker 2>the 4'9, Pete Briscoe. As a texter, Icy Veins, points out,

0:37:47.410 --> 0:37:50.050
<v Speaker 2>what a great sign it is for what the ceiling

0:37:50.110 --> 0:37:53.510
<v Speaker 2>is now for Bryce when 281 and a couple touchdowns

0:37:53.550 --> 0:37:55.430
<v Speaker 2>and no turnovers, it's kind of, yeah, he was all right.

0:37:55.890 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 2>It was an all right performance by Bryce. Not his best.

0:37:58.520 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 6>100%.

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>That shows you how much he's raised in the bar.

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 2>If he had that in the past, we'd say, oh

0:38:02.580 --> 0:38:06.500
<v Speaker 2>my God, what an unbelievable performance by Bryce. Now those

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.009
<v Speaker 2>numbers are kind of like, yeah, he was all right.

0:38:08.030 --> 0:38:10.850
<v Speaker 2>He had moments. That's a good sign for how good

0:38:10.870 --> 0:38:12.710
<v Speaker 2>he's been other games. Y'all are so right on that.

0:38:12.750 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a great way of saying it.

0:38:13.850 --> 0:38:16.250
<v Speaker 3>And I looked at like, we finished up the segment

0:38:16.270 --> 0:38:18.330
<v Speaker 3>with Zoki and it occurred to me, We didn't ask

0:38:18.370 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 3>him about Bryce. He threw for 281, two touchdowns, no picks.

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 3>And it's just, I think that's the point. It's like, Hey,

0:38:24.219 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 3>that was, you did a bunch of good stuff. You

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.820
<v Speaker 3>struggled a bit at times. Philly's defense, give them a

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.090
<v Speaker 3>little bit of credit, but you know what? Like if

0:38:31.140 --> 0:38:33.710
<v Speaker 3>that's your worst game out of the five, you had

0:38:33.730 --> 0:38:36.149
<v Speaker 3>a 91 quarterback rating. It's like, dude, we.

0:38:36.090 --> 0:38:36.630
<v Speaker 4>Going to be fine.

0:38:37.489 --> 0:38:39.750
<v Speaker 3>Um, and I love these still, you got the ball

0:38:39.770 --> 0:38:42.430
<v Speaker 3>to T Mac and Coker each six times. I think

0:38:42.450 --> 0:38:45.940
<v Speaker 3>T Mac had 86 Coker had 97. It's so, it's

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.940
<v Speaker 3>so good to have both those guys together. Um, I

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 3>don't think it was his most accurate day downfield either.

0:38:51.460 --> 0:38:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I think he was two or five on the deep balls,

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:56.540
<v Speaker 3>but again, man, um, this dude is doing things. No

0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:00.330
<v Speaker 3>quarterback has done here. Uh, some of the numbers bone, um,

0:39:00.489 --> 0:39:04.050
<v Speaker 3>Panther records, um, No one's ever thrown 11 touchdown passes

0:39:04.090 --> 0:39:06.830
<v Speaker 3>in the first five games as a Panther. No one

0:39:06.870 --> 0:39:10.240
<v Speaker 3>has thrown for even 225 and a touchdown in every

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.940
<v Speaker 3>game for the first five games as a Panther. Bryce

0:39:12.980 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 3>has thrown for 280 or more in every game and

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:20.180
<v Speaker 3>a touchdown through five games. You have to go back

0:39:20.180 --> 0:39:23.890
<v Speaker 3>to the 2013 season when Peyton Manning and Drew Brees

0:39:23.890 --> 0:39:26.590
<v Speaker 3>did it to find someone who has done that.

0:39:26.590 --> 0:39:30.620
<v Speaker 2>That's insane. Oh, those scrubs. Oh, we got to mention

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Bryce with those guys?

0:39:31.780 --> 0:39:35.420
<v Speaker 4>That's embarrassing. That's insane, man, when you think about it.

0:39:35.460 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 2>And we've mentioned he's got two turnovers and they both,

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.890
<v Speaker 2>one was... and up for grabs ball when one was

0:39:40.910 --> 0:39:43.989
<v Speaker 2>the one against Cleveland. And those silly fumbles, Matt, that

0:39:44.010 --> 0:39:46.190
<v Speaker 2>he often had his first few years when he would

0:39:46.230 --> 0:39:48.110
<v Speaker 2>just drop the ball or he'd get pressured and the

0:39:48.150 --> 0:39:51.100
<v Speaker 2>ball would magically come out of his hands somehow. Those

0:39:51.820 --> 0:39:54.020
<v Speaker 2>seem like, for the most part, that those aren't happening

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:58.290
<v Speaker 2>either right now. No, he's protecting the ball in so

0:39:58.370 --> 0:40:00.509
<v Speaker 2>many different ways. He's so comfortable and alert of all

0:40:00.570 --> 0:40:02.850
<v Speaker 2>that's around him. He's not looking back for the rush anymore.

0:40:02.890 --> 0:40:05.370
<v Speaker 2>He's looking downfield to make plays. I think before he

0:40:05.390 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 2>was looking around him. He just feels it. And Ross

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.300
<v Speaker 2>Tucker said it, the subtle, what did Ross call him, nifty?

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.540
<v Speaker 2>The subtle movement in the pocket. You saw it on

0:40:13.580 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 2>the Coker one. Let me buy myself a little bit

0:40:15.460 --> 0:40:16.180
<v Speaker 2>of time here.

0:40:16.219 --> 0:40:16.399
<v Speaker 5>Boom.

0:40:16.460 --> 0:40:19.140
<v Speaker 4>I'm releasing it. Um, this subtle movement.

0:40:19.180 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:40:19.500 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 4>I feel pressure here. Let me slide in.

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<v Speaker 3>And you see that even in a game where it's like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't, you know, that wasn't his best performance this

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<v Speaker 3>year may have been his worst. It's just, he's growing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's evolving. The talent around him has gotten better. Brett

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<v Speaker 3>Idzik is making everybody better. I mean, man, it's fun

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<v Speaker 3>to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>It really is.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, that was one where the offense kept killing themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven of our 13 penalties, Bone, were offensive. And I

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<v Speaker 3>would also throw the three return penalties in to hurting

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<v Speaker 3>the offense. So there were 10 penalties, Bone, that hurt

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<v Speaker 3>the offense's cause.

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<v Speaker 4>There would have been more points on the board.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people are pointing out, They could have

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<v Speaker 3>put up 32 if they wanted to. They're down there

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<v Speaker 3>at the two-yard line, and they do the right thing,

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<v Speaker 3>the classy thing, and kneel it out. There could have

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<v Speaker 3>been more points there. So, man, it feels so good.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have asked Bob. Cut to the chase. I've

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<v Speaker 3>told Bebop a simple... Because he's on there blabbing about

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<v Speaker 3>when's the Bryce statue reveal.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to ban him from Mentions Mac until

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<v Speaker 2>he just says Bryce is the guy. That's all he's

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<v Speaker 2>got to say. Here's what I asked for. He's on

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<v Speaker 2>there doing his comedy routine. When's the statue reveal?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, he's going to name me when he has an

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<v Speaker 3>MVP speech, he's going to name me as a motivating factor. Um, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>he definitely doesn't care about, I mean, ain't many people

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<v Speaker 3>care about you, but he definitely doesn't. Um, so I

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<v Speaker 3>just said a simple, I'm wrong would do wonders. And

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<v Speaker 3>he responded with sounds like something my wife would text me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just would like to pray for Mrs. Bob

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<v Speaker 3>right now. Cause I'm pretty sure she's never gotten it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know how you stay married without saying

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wrong. I average I'm wrong 5.7 times a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Have we actually seen his wife before? Or is this

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<v Speaker 2>like Cheers with Norm? You're saying she doesn't exist? Just

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<v Speaker 2>throwing it out there. All I want is Bob to

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<v Speaker 2>say I was wrong or Bryce is the guy and

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<v Speaker 2>we move on. And then we move on with our lives, Bobby.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't say it, Bob. You're banned for now. You're

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<v Speaker 2>banned for mentions. When we come back, it's college football

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<v Speaker 2>talk here in the Mac and Bone Show looking for

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<v Speaker 2>pumped or pissed fans. That's UNC, Charlotte and Wake on

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<v Speaker 2>the happy side, Duke on the negative side. And was

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<v Speaker 2>anyone else on either side of the top 10 chaos?

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