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Speaker 1: Another sheriff is in trouble related to misusing money from

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Speaker 1: the commas. Sarah, here we go again. Okay, so let's

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Speaker 1: reset why this is interesting. Now, this is Clinton County

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk We'll talk about that in a second.

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Speaker 1: But this is interesting because many of you longtime listeners

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Speaker 1: will know that Mike Braun's close political ally and friend,

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Speaker 1: Tom Kleinhelter, is the sheriff of du Bois County, Mike

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Speaker 1: Bron's home county. He was facing an eighty page probable

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Speaker 1: cause affidavit from the Indiana State Police for allegedly misusing

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Speaker 1: money from the commissary. So the commissary is the money

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Speaker 1: that people in the jail will pay in for various

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Speaker 1: food snacks, you know what, various items, and then that

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Speaker 1: money is controlled by the sheriff, and in most cases

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Speaker 1: there is a check and bounce reporting mechanism to the county.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's the county commissioners. And in the case

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Speaker 1: of Tom Kleinelter, he was allegedly paying for like flights

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Speaker 1: for his wife to various conferences that she had nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with for the government. It was allegedly just

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Speaker 1: a horrible misuse of public money. And then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, Braun becomes governor, new state police superintendent comes

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Speaker 1: in in the churches, megically, go away, this guy in

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Speaker 1: Clinton County, I guess we can say. We don't have

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Speaker 1: to say allegedly anymore because the court has ruled against them,

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Speaker 1: the Clinton County Sheriff.

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Speaker 2: Richard Kelly and his wife Ashley, and their company. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there was a summary judgment granted against them.

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Speaker 1: Said hold my beer, and they're saying he misappropriated three

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars. Right, that's a hell

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Speaker 1: of a lot of money. Casey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two hundred nineteen thousand of it came directly from

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Speaker 2: the jail commissary funds. So what's a summary judgment?

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Speaker 1: So summary judgment is essentially when the facts of the

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Speaker 1: case are not in dispute, there is no need for

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Speaker 1: a trial. Here's the thing you did or said the thing.

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Speaker 1: There's no dispute about what happened. Okay, Now we asked

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Speaker 1: the judge to rule in our favor, and in this case,

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Speaker 1: it looks like there wasn't really much dispute about what

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Speaker 1: was going on.

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Speaker 2: Right, looks like they used their company, a company that

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Speaker 2: they solely owned to manage the commissary operations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is pretty brazen behavior. They created an LLC. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it was a big dip when you're in the

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands cases. I ain't a little dip. That's

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Speaker 1: a big dip. So's it should hopefully in light of

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Speaker 1: Jamie Nole, the horribly corrupt former sheriff of Clark County

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Speaker 1: who's now in prison, You've got klein Helter, who, thanks

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Speaker 1: to his buddy getting elected governor, was able to escape

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Speaker 1: an eighty page probable cause affidavit. He should probably be

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Speaker 1: incarcerated someway. And now this guy. We got to take

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Speaker 1: a major look at how these sheriffs are operating, especially

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Speaker 1: light of klein Helter and this guy with the allegations

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Speaker 1: being the misuse of money from the commissary, the oversight

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Speaker 1: on this and how these guys are you be able

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Speaker 1: to pull this off?

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Speaker 2: Did you see there was an update in the Jamie

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Speaker 2: Nole case. The judge ordered him to pay back the

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Speaker 2: nine and eighteen thousand dollars in damages to the State

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Speaker 2: of India.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm sure he'll get right on on that

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Speaker 1: from his prison cell. But but again, oh, by the

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Speaker 1: way casey trivia question, who is the only person in

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Speaker 1: the county who can arrest the sheriff?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, we had this the other day. What was it?

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Speaker 2: Was it the.

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Speaker 1: Corner it is. I'm very impressed. The coroner is the

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Speaker 1: other person in the county who can arrest the arrest

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Speaker 1: the sheriff. So look, I've said this for a long time,

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Speaker 1: and local governments are very easy to manipulate and take

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Speaker 1: advantage of because a lot of the people are lazy

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Speaker 1: and don't read I'm saying the elected people. They don't

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Speaker 1: read their claims, they don't read the finances. If they

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Speaker 1: do read them, they don't know how to process it.

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Speaker 1: It's why our local governments are in the shape they're in,

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Speaker 1: which no matter how much money they get, it's never

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Speaker 1: enough money. And so in this case, especially like stuff

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Speaker 1: with the commissary, you've got to be all over this

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Speaker 1: sort of stuff. You've got to be reading these claims,

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Speaker 1: you got to be sifting through them. And I think

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Speaker 1: some of these sheriffs have kind of figured out, Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's the it's the land where it's just giant pots

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Speaker 1: of gold at the end of every rainbow. And I

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Speaker 1: think the government is going to really the state of

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Speaker 1: Indiana is really going to have to take a look

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Speaker 1: at how these sheriffs are monitored, especially how their funds

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Speaker 1: are monitored, and the idea that they just get this

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Speaker 1: money and and you know, it's catch me if you can.

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Speaker 2: Right following and rolling the Clinton County commissioners, they called

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Speaker 2: for immediate resignations. They said public trust, public trust has

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Speaker 2: been broken, and that this is about accountability, not politics,

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Speaker 2: and they said that they have forfeited their right to

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Speaker 2: serve in public office by doing this. You've got to

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Speaker 2: wonder how much of this behavior comes down to sort

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Speaker 2: of that narcissistic attitude of hey, I'm the top dog,

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Speaker 2: nobody can touch me.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I've been think about if you are the sheriff.

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Speaker 1: I mean essentially you are the highest ranking official in

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Speaker 1: the county, right and you got to be pretty grounded

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Speaker 1: not to let that sort of thing run to your

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Speaker 1: you know, run to your head. And in this case,

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Speaker 1: and again, we're not talking about some person who made,

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Speaker 1: you know, an accidental like I used the wrong credit card. Oops, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I bought a stick of gum. You know, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about hundreds of thousands of dollars clear clear intent and

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Speaker 1: intentions and what these people were doing