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Speaker 1: Line from vall hartbind and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, a.

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Speaker 2: Resolution to condemn socialism hot down. I'm totally in for that,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, what is going on with you?

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Speaker 3: Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Eight three three four six, eight, eight sixty six, y

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Speaker 2: nine callers welcome?

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Speaker 3: People don't think I take callers? Of course I do.

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Speaker 3: They just have to be interesting and attractive.

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Speaker 2: Eight three three got Tony is the number I have

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Speaker 2: some of this story. It's a knockout house of representatives.

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Speaker 2: This's just happening. Voting in favor of a resolution condemning socialism. Now,

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Speaker 2: Mom Donnie got elected in New York. Mom Donnie is

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Speaker 2: coming to the White House to visit with Trump.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's a reason for it.

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Speaker 2: And eighty six Democrats voted to favor the condemning of socialism,

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Speaker 2: which means ninety eight didn't. And that, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: is the story today. Who doesn't vote to condemn socialism.

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Speaker 2: Let's make sure we understand our terms and our terminologies.

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Speaker 2: We understand our conversations here that when we talk about socialism,

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Speaker 2: we are in every way discussing communism. You could say

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Speaker 2: to me, Tony, you know you can have one without

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Speaker 2: the other, And I would say to you, I guess

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Speaker 2: it's possible, just not in the United States, not with

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Speaker 2: these progressives, not now, not ever. Stop it.

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Speaker 3: We shouldn't lie to each other.

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Speaker 2: That's like people saying that Democrats like Alyssa Slockin, the

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Speaker 2: Senator from Michigan, and Mark Kelly, the Senator from Arizona,

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Speaker 2: weren't telling the active duty military to not listen to

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Speaker 2: orders from Donald Trump, referring to them as illegal, saying

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Speaker 2: commander in chief.

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Speaker 3: Oh, if you follow the trolls on social.

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Speaker 2: Media, they're all saying to me, Oh, no, that's not

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Speaker 2: what God said. You're not telling the truth, Tony. I'm right,

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Speaker 2: their trolls and criminally insane. Every rational person knows what

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Speaker 2: God said. I'll break it down even further, every rational person.

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Speaker 2: I said, rational people aren't socialists. But yet we've got

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Speaker 2: ninety eight people who have been elected who won't condemn socialism. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's ninety eight people to throw out on their ass. Right,

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Speaker 2: there is what that is. I mean, thanks for letting

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Speaker 2: us know. And this brings us to an unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: All Maxine Waters angry, Maxine Waters smash. This is about

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Speaker 2: Representative Salazar, Maria Alvira Salazar. She represents the twenty seventh

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Speaker 2: district in Florida, right there, daughter of Cuban exiles, and

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Speaker 2: she you know, the expression is I rise to speak about? Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: Representative Salazar, let's hear.

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Speaker 3: It right here. What is it that you rise to

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Speaker 4: Thank you, mister speaker.

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Speaker 3: If there is someone who.

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Speaker 4: Has seen the horrors of socialism up close within the

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Speaker 4: Democratic Party is in the House, and is the Honorable

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Speaker 4: Congresswoman Maxine Water.

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Speaker 2: Oh damn, get popcorn. Get the popcorn. We're gonna need it.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna need the big bucket.

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna need We're gonna need.

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Speaker 2: The kettle corn and whatever that whatever that Garret cheese

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Speaker 2: Where's the burd I'm gonna eat bourbon. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: two milkshakes. This is gonna be a long night. I

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Speaker 2: need bourman. Get it all, bring it.

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Speaker 3: In and ev if somebody, if somebody could.

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Speaker 2: Also get me a Turkey club. That'd be fantastic. Ah hell,

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Speaker 2: invoking Maxine Waters in the first seven seconds talking about

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Speaker 3: But this is gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Great, and I would love for you to support this

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Speaker 4: resolution specifically because Madam Waters, for decades you travel to

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Speaker 4: Cuba dozens of times to visit Fidel Castro personally, whom

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Speaker 2: We're really an extra butter on the popcorn. Get it,

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Speaker 2: get the truck, Get the truck, Go to the AMC

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Speaker 2: tell them we need all the popcorn, extra butter put

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: We're going. She's calling out Maxine Waters.

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Speaker 3: Oh damn, get it all.

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Speaker 2: Get some nachos too, and uh, don't skimp on the halopanos.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'll take them off myself. It's just too much. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: what was Representative Salazar saying.

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Speaker 4: Congress Woman Waters was in Havana and she saw the

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Speaker 4: destruction of biblical proportions that Castro cost on that island,

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Speaker 4: who at the time in nineteen sixty had the highest

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Speaker 4: Madam Waters knew that thousandth and thousands of Cubans were

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Speaker 3: It's at this moment.

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Speaker 2: That members of the House start realing what it is

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Speaker 2: that Representative Salazar, who is of the Foreign Affair Subcommittee

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: We are discussing socialism, and we have members of this

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Speaker 3: This is cold blooded. This is well, I wasn't kidding.

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Speaker 2: This is grab the popcorn, grab the bourbon whatever, front

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Speaker 3: What's happening here.

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Speaker 2: Congresswoman Salasar is calling out Congresswoman Maxine Waters directly. And

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Speaker 2: I do not know Maxine Waters was in the room,

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Speaker 3: Gotta get over here. And from there it gets nuts.

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Speaker 4: She knew that after Cubans were being beaten on the

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Speaker 4: mister speaker, And for that reason, I am bringing up

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Speaker 4: all these facts. Because Madam Waters knew that the Cuban

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Speaker 4: jails were full of political prisoners, and the Cubans did

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Speaker 3: Maxine Waters knew.

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Speaker 2: The voice you just heard is that of Maxine Waters,

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Speaker 2: who is jumping in now.

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Speaker 3: I listen to this.

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Speaker 2: I do not think any bad words were used, because

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Speaker 2: this is the floor of the house. But uh hey, there,

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Speaker 2: Producer Landing, how about a finger on the dump button.

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Speaker 4: Just in case we are having right now freely. At

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Speaker 4: now the horse of socialism, mister Speaker. For that reason,

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Speaker 4: I am asking Madam Waters, for what purpose the lady

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Speaker 4: from I'm English?

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Speaker 2: I moved to take her words down?

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Speaker 3: Order? Are you living?

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Speaker 3: The lady from caliper to.

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Speaker 2: The screaming going on in the background, Good.

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Speaker 3: Lord Fournia, for what purpose do you rise? I rise

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Speaker 2: The expression takedown words is very very specific to the

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Speaker 2: taking down words is a parliamentary procedure, and the taking

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Speaker 3: The day or for the actual.

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Speaker 2: resolutions about, etc. So what Maxine Waters is asking for

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Speaker 3: For here at.

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Speaker 2: Lady Fum Florida, please be seated.

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Speaker 6: So Salazar's asked to say, clerk to please report the

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Speaker 3: That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: Eight members of the United States Congress did not vote

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Speaker 2: to condemn socialism.

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Speaker 3: Just some notes.

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Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a democratic socialist. They're all socialists.

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Speaker 2: Democratic socials lists are not real now there's a party

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Speaker 3: But it's just wordplay. It's all bs.

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Speaker 2: They are what they are. They are people hell bend

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Speaker 2: in an outrageously nonsensical way that somehow the failure of

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Speaker 2: because they really know best. They know communism better than

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Speaker 2: Lenin and Stalin, better than Mao. Nah. But it is

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Speaker 3: And it does.

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Speaker 2: And as for the ninety eight members who voted not

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Speaker 2: there should be a litmus test on this. I'm Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: and this is Tony Kats Today. I've got a troll

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Speaker 3: I ask you. Secondly, I don't want to be russilan Ball.

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Speaker 3: I want to be mean.

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Speaker 2: But if I could have just half the stations he had, oh,

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Speaker 2: Scrooge McDuck, Tony Kats, Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 3: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: It's it's just horrific. It is just terrific, and it

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Speaker 2: This is exactly what you would expect. So we know.

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Speaker 2: We've got this story of Representative Cheerfless McCormick, this representative

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Speaker 2: out of five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: She had a healthcare company with her I think it was.

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Speaker 2: Her brother, and they were paid during the COVID times

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Speaker 2: the street is they basically took five million dollars, didn't

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Speaker 3: In the world did she get six million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Well, now she wants.

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Speaker 2: You to know that this indictment is just unjust, unjust,

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Speaker 2: I tell you. And if it's unjust, do.

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Speaker 3: You know what that means? Epstein Files investigation, Let me care.

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Speaker 7: And it seems like these intimidation tactics have been pervasive.

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Speaker 7: And I look forward to my day course so I

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Speaker 2: So you are indicted after a almost two year ethics investigation.

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Speaker 2: This ethics investigation started in twenty twenty three. And the

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Speaker 3: And I think we should.

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Speaker 3: Say, would you just shut up? Already?

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Speaker 2: Racism exists not here. This is a cudgel that you

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Speaker 2: this is just racism, nonsense, absolute nonsense, and we need

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think we should notice. I think we should notice.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday we engaged deeply in the conversation of Congressman Corey

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Speaker 3: Corey Mills is white. No one looked at me askew.

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Speaker 2: No one called me any names for discussing the allegations

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Speaker 3: But those people could go to hell.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why we aren't more aggressive about this,

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Speaker 2: that we're honest people engaged in an honest conversation.

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Speaker 3: Utilizing the facts in front of us. Let's do that.

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Speaker 3: And these people who don't want us to, they're the enemy,

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Speaker 3: They're the enemy. Why can't we say so?

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, we can, and we should,

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Speaker 2: we should do it more often speaking of enemies Senator

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Speaker 2: Sluckin and Senator Kelly, amongst others.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony CAx today, A.

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Speaker 2: Moment if you would, of just personal privilege, A moment

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Speaker 2: to say to all those whoever questioned me, whoever doubted me,

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Speaker 3: Tony Kats Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: Guys, good to be here, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Find everything I do over there at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 3: What in the world does that have to do with anything, Tony?

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Speaker 3: Why are you bringing this up? Well, first, a lot

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Speaker 2: An outrageous number of people are going to be flying

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Speaker 2: News Nation had the story and according to them, according

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Speaker 2: to Triple A, eighty two million people are going to

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Speaker 3: Us to a story. It was on Daily Wire.

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Speaker 2: It is Sean Duffy and the story reads. The headline reads,

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm so happy right now. No more pajamas, folks.

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Speaker 2: Is it time to dress to impress on planes again?

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Speaker 2: I am taking full credit, ladies and gentlemen, no one

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Speaker 3: I am taking one hundred percent credit for this.

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Speaker 2: I for years have been discussing the clear issue, the

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Speaker 2: the hell is wrong with you? Well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be comfortable. No, what you have is no self respect

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Speaker 2: and it has to stop. You have no respect for

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Speaker 2: anybody else. Why do you think everybody is absolutely garbage

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Speaker 3: Well, some of it has.

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Speaker 2: To do with the fact that the TSA is terrible

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Speaker 2: and Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary has to agree to

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Speaker 2: with the airlines absolutely failing on an epic level to

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Speaker 2: well take care of the traveler. David Marcus over at

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Speaker 2: Fox News Blue Box, Dave on X really really good guy.

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Speaker 2: Chainsmoker extraordinary. The only other person I've ever seen smoke

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Speaker 2: He wrote a story once. This says going on three

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Speaker 2: maybe it was longer. About the Concord. Do you remember

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Speaker 3: And look at how we're advancing. Have we had.

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Speaker 3: No, we've had nothing but regression. We get worse service.

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Speaker 3: And why do you think we have more fighting on airplanes?

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Speaker 2: A lot has taken place that it's seriously problematic and

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Speaker 2: They started showing up in sweats or in spandex. They

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Speaker 2: I like to be comfortable. That's not an argument. You're

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Speaker 3: Me, Mike, my children have seen me do it. My

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Speaker 2: My friends know this. When I travel, I wear a suit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when I'm on the plane, do I take the jacket

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Speaker 2: I think if you're wearing socks, if you're on a

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Speaker 2: Can't walk around to bare feet, that's disgusting. And oh,

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Speaker 3: Well, I just want to to be comfortable. I can

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Speaker 2: What you are is a selfish, self entitled brat, and

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Speaker 2: Duffy saying, people dress up going to bed when they fly.

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Speaker 3: This is all me.

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Speaker 2: I will not listen to anyone else anywhere. I have

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Speaker 2: a checklist here. Five things, Five things you can do

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Speaker 3: Put their bag in the overhead bin?

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Speaker 2: Or are you too busy moving somebody else's stuff, so your bag,

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Speaker 3: Of your children? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, there are some parents who don't like to hear that,

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Speaker 2: but those parents need to know. Your kids aren't special.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I think it could be

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Speaker 2: and in truth, maybe they don't. But if you ain't

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Speaker 2: also to that, to that end, if if, if, if

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Speaker 2: with you?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, my child has the seat here in three

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Speaker 3: A and first.

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Speaker 2: Class and uh and I need to sit next to them,

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Speaker 2: so you can take my seat. It's in thirty five B. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not doing that. That's your problem.

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Speaker 2: And by asking me you're not, this is not a

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Speaker 2: conversation of respect well tony, we need to be respectful people,

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Speaker 2: know no, nothing can be more disrespectful than this.

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: You can maneuver seats with somebody in thirty five AARC

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Speaker 2: and then give them.

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Speaker 3: The first class seat or the seat in the in

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Speaker 3: the more front of the plane.

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Speaker 2: If you are somebody who needs to move seats, change

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Speaker 2: seats sometimes the outpul but sometimes no, not when it

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Speaker 2: means that you're going to lose out on hundreds of

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Speaker 2: not thousands of dollars. Not when it means you're going

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Speaker 2: to be inconvenienced because they did not plan properly. Now,

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Speaker 2: sometimes there are extenuating circumstances, and you can be a

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Speaker 2: person who listens to that, but do not think, oh

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Speaker 2: I need it or night. It's not even the kid.

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Speaker 2: I'm traveling with my girlfriend wearing separate seats. Take can

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Speaker 2: you mind moving yeah, I mind moving. Dude, Dude, don't

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Speaker 2: be a jerk about this. The minute someone says don't

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Speaker 2: be a jerk about it, that person should be thrown

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Speaker 2: off the plane. Bye, thrown off the plane, can't fly

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Speaker 2: for six months. We take your driver's license, and we

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Speaker 2: let twenty people line up to hit in the face

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Speaker 2: with a fish. That's it.

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Speaker 3: People got to handle themselves.

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Speaker 2: Man, are you saying thank you to your flight attendants

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Speaker 2: and pilots? Which is a standard thing to do now,

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Speaker 2: Secretary Duffy, Let's be clear. The flight attendant has to

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Speaker 2: be nicer. The flight attendant acts like they don't want

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Speaker 2: to be there. The flight attendant acts like I'm somehow

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Speaker 2: in the way. The flight attendant needs to change their

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Speaker 2: attitude too.

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Speaker 3: This is not all one way street, guys.

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Speaker 2: The flight attendant needs to change how they act. I

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Speaker 2: don't care what happened in their personal life today. I

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Speaker 2: do not care if their kid yelled at them. I

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Speaker 2: don't care if they had a bad breakup. I don't

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Speaker 2: care if they have to pay their taxes. We all do,

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Speaker 2: true story. I may have told this story before. I

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Speaker 2: do morning radio as well. You guys, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you know that I do six hours a day.

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Speaker 2: I do the morning show in Indianapolis on ninety three

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Speaker 2: point one FMWIBC.

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Speaker 3: And then I do this fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Show right here, which is live streaming on YouTube right now,

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Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash Tony Katz, you should be a

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Speaker 2: part of that. And this was my first year doing mornings,

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Speaker 2: second year, and I had never.

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Speaker 3: Done mornings before.

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Speaker 2: Morning is a very different thing, and I think I

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Speaker 2: was very bad at it at the start. It took

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Speaker 2: a while to really learn the format and everything else. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm there and I'm sitting in my chair and my

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Speaker 2: computer isn't working in the studio and my computers at working.

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Speaker 2: I'm complaining about how my computer's not working, and I

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Speaker 2: get a text from my program director, who is still

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Speaker 2: my program director at WIBC, and the text reads, shut

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Speaker 2: the blank up. I didn't know Matt Longbe. He's never

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Speaker 2: spoke to me like that day in my life. And

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, and now I'm just curious what this

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Speaker 2: is all about.

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Speaker 3: I move on to other things.

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Speaker 2: I see him after the show and I said, what

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Speaker 2: in the world was that about? He said, Tony, people

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Speaker 2: are going to jobs they don't like in cars that

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Speaker 2: don't work, their kids giving them a problem, their girlfriend's

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Speaker 2: giving them a problem, their spouse is giving them a problem.

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Speaker 3: They've got all these issues.

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Speaker 2: And you who gets to sit in air conditioning and

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Speaker 2: sip coffee or complaining about your computer. They don't care

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Speaker 2: about your problems. They care about their problems. And I said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're right, I'm wrong next, because that was the answer.

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Speaker 2: That was the answer. And what the flight attendant has

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Speaker 2: to do is act like a professional and recognize this.

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Speaker 2: Act like you care about the people paying your salary,

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Speaker 2: Engage professionally with them, treat them well. They've got other issues,

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Speaker 2: never mind general nerves about flying. This is great, this

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Speaker 2: is where we want to be. But dressing for an airplane, kids,

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Speaker 2: I'm taking full credit for that foot, not Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: not Sean Duffy. Me get a suit, go full Barney

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Speaker 2: suit up when you fly.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, we.

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Speaker 2: Can make America great again. I'm Tony Katz, and this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz. Today President Trump coming out and coming

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Speaker 2: out with words about those Democrats angry with him. Democrats said,

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Speaker 2: you know, you should not military listen to us. You

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Speaker 2: don't have to follow illegal orders. They were accusing President

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Speaker 2: Trump of giving illegal orders. It's exactly what they were doing.

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Speaker 2: They were accusing President Trump of engaging in an activity

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Speaker 2: that was somehow against the American military.

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Speaker 3: That's what they did. It's what they did.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, I'll get into this. So

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Speaker 2: Trump responded by saying, this.

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Speaker 3: Is seditious behavior.

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Speaker 2: Lock them up, and someone said, well, George Washington would

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Speaker 2: have hung them, and Trump retweeted that I was punishable

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Speaker 2: by death and Democrats are like, He's coming after Democrats.

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Speaker 3: He wants us dead. Bunch of fools, a.

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Speaker 2: Bunch of ridiculous, despicable, low rent, low class fools. I

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Speaker 2: will get to that story in the next hour. I

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Speaker 2: will get to that story. I'll also I have my

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Speaker 2: conversation with Ed Morrissey there regarding the deal in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Hard deal, really hard. And then there is CNN that

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Speaker 2: made a statement that the cabinet is about to get

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Speaker 2: a shake up. Caroline Levitt has come out to say

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Speaker 2: that that is one hundred percent fake news. The truth

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Speaker 2: is President Trump cannot be happier with his cabinet. Shame

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Speaker 2: on you, CNN. I would say that, first of all,

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Speaker 2: CNN lies, they've been caught in so many of them.

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Speaker 2: But what I would say that it's certainly possible that

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Speaker 2: there could be a change. Changes do happen, and after

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Speaker 2: a year, change could happen, of course, but this is

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Speaker 2: the kind of story that you put out so when

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Speaker 2: some change happens, you can go see, we had the

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Speaker 2: reporting early on, We've got the inside track, we know

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Speaker 2: what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Where's CNN. You can trust us.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those kinds of stories, right, It's one

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Speaker 2: of those stories that you you put out this really

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Speaker 2: generalized statement, and then when something happens within the generalized statement, you.

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Speaker 3: Go, huh, told you that's how I take it.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they cited unnamed sources that the administration is

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Speaker 2: preparing for a cabinet turnover and there's possible friction inside

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Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Energy.

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Speaker 2: Now Energy is Chris Wright. Wright, I wouldn't know about anything.

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security is Christy Nome, and I would tell you

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Speaker 2: there's absolutely the possibility of friction between Nome and Tom Homan.

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Speaker 2: The borders are undoubtedly possible, possible friction between Nome and

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Speaker 2: a whole host of people. Friction sounds like type A

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Speaker 2: personality is dealing with type A personalities. You wouldn't know

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Speaker 2: that from the Biden era because you get the rest cats.

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Speaker 1: Line from ball Heartbland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. It's funny that President Trump thought

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Speaker 2: it necessary to explain his remarks, but Democrats don't feel

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Speaker 2: the need to explain theirs. Therein we see an issue.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, what's going on? Everybody live

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Speaker 2: streaming on YouTube as well as the radio show YouTube

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Speaker 2: dot com slash Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: Come be a part of it.

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Speaker 2: The phone number eight three to three, got Tony eight

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Speaker 2: three three four six eight eight six six nine.

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Speaker 3: You want to be a part of the show. Happy

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Speaker 3: to have you.

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Speaker 2: Trump wanted to say that he's not threatening Democrats, but

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Speaker 2: I think they're in serious trouble. President Trump was clarifying

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Speaker 2: his punishable by death comments.

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Speaker 3: What does this? What are we talking about here?

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Speaker 2: While we're talking about this disgusting video put out by Democrats.

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Speaker 3: And this disgusting video said.

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Speaker 8: This, each d it keep Americans safe? We know you

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Speaker 8: are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust

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Speaker 8: their military with that trust is at risk.

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Speaker 9: This administration is pitting our uniform military.

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Speaker 8: And intelligence community professionals against American citizens.

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Speaker 3: No part of that is true.

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Speaker 2: That is a lie so reprehensible that every single one

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Speaker 2: of them should be voted out of office. They should

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Speaker 2: resign in shame. Now, if you follow me on social media,

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Speaker 2: you saw me say this a lot. Yesterday. I actually

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Speaker 2: utilize the words of Gabby Giffords, who is the wife

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Speaker 2: of Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, one of the people

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Speaker 2: who despicably is in this video, and I used it

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Speaker 2: back at them, and I repeated it in like seventeen

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Speaker 2: different spots, and people like you're only cutting and pasting

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Speaker 2: what I had to say, bears repeating this is shameful.

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Speaker 3: Go back and listen to what it is that they're saying.

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Speaker 2: Right here, they create this video talking about the military,

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Speaker 2: and look at us. We're all members of the former

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Speaker 2: members of the military, and we want to speak directly

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Speaker 2: to members of the military. Speak directly to members of

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Speaker 2: the military and the intelligence.

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Speaker 10: Community who take risks each day.

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Speaker 8: Keep Americans safe. We know you are under enormous stress

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Speaker 8: and pressure right now. Americans trust their military. What that

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Speaker 8: trust is at risk.

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Speaker 9: This administration is pitting our uniform military.

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Speaker 8: And intelligence community professionals against American citizens.

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Speaker 3: Where is this happening.

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Speaker 2: Where is the military and the IC, the intelligence community

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Speaker 2: being against Americans.

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Speaker 3: It's a rational question.

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Speaker 2: It's not happening. It's not real. What are they talking about. Well,

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Speaker 2: here's what they're talking about. Like us, you all swore

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Speaker 2: an oath to protect.

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Speaker 10: To defend this constitution.

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Speaker 11: Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming from.

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Speaker 3: Road, but from right here at home.

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Speaker 2: Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 10: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: Anyone who wants to say that this video, they're not

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Speaker 2: saying disobey orders from Donald Trump. They can say that.

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Speaker 2: That isn't exactly the words that they used, But they

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Speaker 2: said the Trump administration is pitting Americans against the military

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Speaker 2: and the IC, or the military and the IC against Americans.

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Speaker 2: They said this, and then they said that we have

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Speaker 2: to protect that. You were in the military, in the

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Speaker 2: IC swore to protect the constitution and from this constitution.

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Speaker 11: Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming

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Speaker 11: from road.

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Speaker 3: But from right here at home.

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Speaker 2: Every rational person in the United States of America, which

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Speaker 2: is to say, nobody who's a leftist, and nobody's on

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Speaker 2: social media understood this as them saying that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: is putting forward unlawful orders and therefore laws are clear.

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Speaker 2: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 10: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: You must refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 8: No one has to carry out orders that violate the

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Speaker 8: law or our constitution.

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Speaker 2: How do you expect the guy in the front lines

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Speaker 2: to do this? We're taking that hill well, I believe

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Speaker 2: that's an unlawful order.

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Speaker 3: You understand as a rational person what they.

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Speaker 2: Are trying to do is so unrest in the military,

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Speaker 2: and we eslayman call that treasonous. Certainly seditious. We call

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Speaker 2: it disgusting, reprehensible.

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Speaker 3: They know what they said, they know what they did.

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Speaker 3: There was no need for this video.

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Speaker 2: They said, how can we start a whole new thing?

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Speaker 2: How can we gin things up? And what are the

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Speaker 2: odds that Trump will take the bait? Well, to an extent,

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Speaker 2: you could argue Trump took the bait. Now here's where

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Speaker 2: you can have two different views of it. Some will

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Speaker 2: say Trump took the bait, and he came out and

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Speaker 2: said what they did was seditious behavior from traders.

662
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Speaker 3: Should we lock them up?

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Speaker 2: And then he retreated somebody he said, this is punishable

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Speaker 2: by death. George Washington, you know, would have had them hung,

665
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Speaker 2: and he put out punishable by death. Oh look see,

666
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: look how violent President Trump is. And some people would

667
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: argue that he fell for it, right, he went for

668
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Speaker 2: the bait. Other people would say, well, Trump started talking

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Speaker 2: about it and.

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Speaker 3: The way he did. Now everybody's talking about way, what

671
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Speaker 3: is this all about?

672
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Speaker 2: And then they see the video and they're like, what

673
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: the hell is wrong with these disgusting low life democrats. Now,

674
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Speaker 2: before we go any further, I am not one who

675
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Speaker 2: believes that you have to have worn the uniform in order.

676
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Speaker 3: To speak about the military.

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Speaker 2: I think it is amongst the cheapest arguments, the most

678
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: pathetic arguments, to say, you didn't serve, So why do

679
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 2: you keep your mouth closed? Which part of kiss off.

680
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Speaker 3: Do you want me to explain to you.

681
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: I'll say anything I want, any time I want. That's

682
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: how this works. You can say something, but I can't.

683
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: There's now a litmus test to who can speak as

684
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Speaker 2: to whether or not you wore the uniform and serve

685
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Speaker 2: the country. I thought part of wearing the uniform was

686
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Speaker 2: too sure that I could speak. And now all of

687
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: a sudden. I can't to those members of the military

688
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: or anybody else who wants to say, if you didn't

689
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: wear the uniform, you don't get to speak what exactly

690
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: is wrong with you? And have you ever thought about

691
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: how unbelievably stupid you sound.

692
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Speaker 3: I'm not a guy who usually uses the word stupid.

693
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: I don't use tom and stupid as a matter of course,

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Speaker 2: because I believe they really do end conversation.

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Speaker 3: But it is a stupid thing to say.

696
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: Well, if you're if you're not a woman, you can't

697
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: talk about abortion.

698
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: Yeah I can, of course I can.

699
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: I'll talk about abortion and the problems they're in any

700
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: time I want. I'm not a woman, so I don't

701
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: get a say, ooh, can we talk about all the

702
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: things that women shouldn't have to say? And well that's sexist. Okay,

703
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: my gosh, you've got yourself covered. I'll talk about abortion ladies,

704
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: any damn chime I choose. Anytime I want to talk

705
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: about the horrors of abortion, I will do that. And

706
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: if you don't like it, I don't care. Having conversations

707
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: is not about whether somebody will like it. It's about

708
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: whether or not we are actually people who engage in

709
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Speaker 2: free speech, and the idea that the only people who

710
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Speaker 2: can discuss things all of the military are people who've

711
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: served in the military is nonsense, if only because we're

712
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: a civilian run military. Good gosh, it's embarrassing, empathetic. Trump

713
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: went on with Brian Kilmeat and said, I'm not threatening them,

714
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: but I think they're in serious trouble. I think it's

715
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: I think it's wrong that he had to do this,

716
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 2: and that he did. I think it's wrong that the

717
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: conversation is about what Trump said. Trump's comments come from

718
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: a place if you are trying to usurp the duly

719
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: elected president of the United States, rational people think of

720
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: that as treasonous. Now, the Uniform Code of Military just

721
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: the law might see it as something else and not treason.

722
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: They might call it this, they might call it that,

723
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: they might call it the other. But two guys on

724
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: a barstool, You know, voters, they know what it is.

725
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: They know what it is, they know what happened here.

726
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: They know when they're being lied to, they know when

727
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 2: someone is acting in the way that's unacceptable. The American

728
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: people get it, and what the left is trying to do,

729
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: and their trolls on social media. They're trying to engage

730
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: a level of gaslighting that what God said isn't what

731
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: God said, but it is. When I tell you I

732
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: think that Senator Slockin is disgusting, I mean it. When

733
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: I tell you I think Senator Kelly is disgusting, I

734
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: mean it. When I tell you I think Representative Crow

735
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: is disgusting, I mean it. And when I say they

736
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: should resign and shame, I mean it. They lied fight

737
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: between the military and the people. I'm one of the people.

738
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Speaker 2: You're one of the people. What are we talking about?

739
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: Are we talking about the take out of drug boats?

740
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: Is that what we're talking about here? Shouldn't the argument

741
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: be from senators we need to if we're going to

742
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: be engaging in an active war in Venezuela, we need

743
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: to declare war, and we're going to demand it, and

744
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: we're going to utilize this position that we hold to

745
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Speaker 2: pressure the president into going forward with it. He has

746
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: to ask us to declare war, otherwise we're going to

747
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: put a stop to this funny.

748
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Speaker 3: I know a guy on radio who's been having this conversation.

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Speaker 2: No, what you do is you try and you surp

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Speaker 2: the president, who, while I would argue as well as

751
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: well within his rights to defend the nation. You're calling

752
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Speaker 2: Venezuela a narco terra state. You're engaging in these attacks

753
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: on the boats. There comes a moment where you're going

754
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Speaker 2: to have to make your case. You're going to need

755
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: congressional approval. That's just the way it is. Does that

756
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: mean that you can't stop an imminent threat? Of course not.

757
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: It means if we're going to war in Venezuela, Congress

758
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: has to be the one to declare war. It does

759
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: not make the order to take out the drug boat unlawful,

760
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: and you, Melissa Slotkin, wouldn't decide that anyway. You could

761
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Speaker 2: argue that a Supreme court could decide that, but not you,

762
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: not in a video like this, which is not meant

763
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Speaker 2: to let the members of the military know of the

764
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: rights that they have. Again, how would they go about

765
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Speaker 2: challenging it? How would they do that? Hey, we're taking

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00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: out this drug boat. We have the intelligence that the

767
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Speaker 2: drug boat. We're taking it out. Well, I don't know

768
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Speaker 2: if that's a lawful order. That guy doesn't end up

769
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: in a stockade or is it a brigg I don't know,

770
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Speaker 2: but it's in some place with bars and a key.

771
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: How do they do that? What are you actually saying?

772
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: What you're saying is to America. Donald Trump is not

773
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: the duly elected president. Donald Trump is doing this wrong.

774
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is a danger. You are once again engaging

775
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Speaker 2: for the lone wolf to try an assassination attempt. That's

776
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: what you're doing. And yet I have a Keem Jeffries,

777
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: and I have Chuck Schumer screaming and yelling and catterwalling

778
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: about the idea that Trump is putting Democrats in danger.

779
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: This was Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 3: Mister President.

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Speaker 1: Sim reat leaders recognized.

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Speaker 12: Earlier today, Donald Trump shared a post on truth social

783
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Speaker 12: calling for Democratic members of Congress to be hanged. He

784
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 12: also posted a message that said had seditious behavior punishable

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Speaker 12: by death.

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Speaker 3: Let's be crystal clear.

787
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Speaker 12: The president of the United States is calling for the

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Speaker 12: execution of elected officials. This is an outright threat and

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Speaker 12: it's deadly serious.

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Speaker 3: That's not what he did. That's not what he did.

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Speaker 2: I have said before that the only way out is

792
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Speaker 2: through that. When we take a look at the divibe

793
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: taking place in the United States, a fair amount of

794
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: it is just social media clapschop nonsense, and a fair

795
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: amount of it is just the despicableness of our members

796
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Speaker 2: of Congress.

797
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Speaker 3: But it is true.

798
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Speaker 2: It is true that the divide is real, and.

799
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 3: There is no bridging that divide today. There just isn't.

800
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: The only way out is through. We have got a

801
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: generation ahead of us to fix this. It's going to

802
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: take time and it's going to be ugly if you

803
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: are not willing to be honest about what it is.

804
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Speaker 2: These Democrats did what it is. They said what it is.

805
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 2: They said. The despicableness of their statement if you well,

806
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: they didn't say that to disobey Trump's orders. No, they

807
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: only said that the Trump administration is pitting Americans against

808
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: the intelligence community and things are very hard for them,

809
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: and they don't have to obey unlawful orders. As if

810
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: somehow they didn't know that you said what you said.

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00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: Maybe better said, you're saying what you're saying, and we

812
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 2: see you, we hear you, and we're disgusted. Don't tell

813
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: me that I have to have a respect for Melyssislockin

814
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: because you served in the CIA or she was with

815
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: the CIA. I don't don't tell me I have to

816
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: have a respect for Mark Kelly or Jason Crowe because

817
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: their military service.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

819
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: I'll respect the service, but I won't respect the man.

820
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: But if this is the kind of service that they

821
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Speaker 2: were giving us, tell me why I have to respect

822
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: it to begin with. It's obscene. Make your argument, make

823
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: your case, draw people to your side.

824
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: Lie usurped the president of the United States.

825
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Speaker 2: The people who voted for him, not going to condone that,

826
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Speaker 2: not going to vote for that either. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday was the funeral for former Vice President Dick Cheney,

828
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Speaker 2: and I saw a lot of people discussing, this is

829
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Speaker 2: you did because Donald Trump and Jadie Vance were not invited.

830
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 2: Who would have made the assumption that they would have been.

831
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Speaker 2: Who would have made the assumption that they.

832
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Speaker 3: Would have gone.

833
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Speaker 2: Why would you think this, Tony Katz? Tony cats today? Now,

834
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: maybe listen, Trump went to the funeral of Jimmy Carter,

835
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Speaker 2: but that was a president, and there's no history with

836
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: Trump and one of Carter's kids like there is with

837
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Speaker 2: Trump and Liz Cheney. It's understandable why, uh Trump wouldn't

838
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: be there. What is not understandable is that when Dick

839
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: Cheney was vice president under George Bush. I remember Dick

840
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: Cheney was also the Secretary of Defense at one time,

841
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Speaker 2: Dick Cheney was Darth Vader. If you are of a

842
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: certain age, you lived through that. Dick Cheney was the worst,

843
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: the embodiment of the worst of America, the embodiment of corporatism,

844
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Speaker 2: just pure evil.

845
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Speaker 3: And now here's his.

846
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Speaker 2: Funeral, and who's in attendance, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden,

847
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Speaker 2: Anthony Fauci, Rachel Maddow and James Carvell. You know, there

848
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: are a lot of people who don't get involved in

849
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: politics because a they believe nothing matters, right, their vote

850
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, what they push doesn't matter. What these people say,

851
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. But there is a fair amount of

852
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: people who don't get involved in politics because they believe

853
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: it's all a game. All these people are just playing

854
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: a game with our lives. Oh they say this, So

855
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: they say that's just so they can make money. But

856
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: they're all in it together. Dick Cheney was Darth Vader,

857
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Speaker 2: and Rachel Maddow is at his funeral, sitting next.

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Speaker 3: To Anthony Fauci. I don't I don't know what to

859
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: make of.

860
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: That, except when Rachel Maddow is screaming about somebody, does she.

861
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Speaker 3: Actually believe it.

862
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Speaker 2: When James carvill is going on one of his syphilis

863
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Speaker 2: induced rages, I say that only because I don't know

864
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Speaker 2: if he has syphilis. But he said of Donald Trump, Oh,

865
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: Donald Trump as syphilis. So I assume he would know

866
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Speaker 2: because he has it. That's the only way I would

867
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Speaker 2: think he wouldn't him not being a doctor. He said

868
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Speaker 2: this of Donald Trump, and I assume he would know

869
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: because he knows, and he would only know if he

870
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Speaker 2: had syphilis. I thought you were opposed to him. I

871
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 2: thought you hated him. You show up at his funeral.

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00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: I'm starting to think that a lot of these people.

873
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Speaker 2: Aren't serious, that they do see this as a game

874
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Speaker 2: and everything is done for a level of profit. I

875
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Speaker 2: like profit. I'm a fan, but not at the extent

876
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: of selling your soul. People are enemies and then they

877
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: can become friends. People are friends, can become enemies. But

878
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: this is.

879
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: This is ugly pathetic.

880
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: And if you want to believe Rachel Maddow in the future, okay,

881
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: I just don't know how this is Tony Katts today,

882
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: So Trump's gonna meet with Zarn Mamdani. That's the mayor

883
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 2: elect of New York. And by the way, New York.

884
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 2: I remember you used to be a great city. Whatever

885
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: you are now, I wish you the best of luck.

886
00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: I really did have a plan to go with my

887
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: life and take one final trip. Hit Googenheim, hit the

888
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: met have some good food to bowl it down there

889
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: at the bottom of Hell's Kitchen, a couple of our

890
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: favorite places.

891
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna get there, and that means, okay,

892
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 3: my days in New York are done. It was a

893
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: good time. It was Tony Kats Tony Katz today. Good

894
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: to be with you.

895
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 2: Ed Marcy joins me right now from hotair dot com.

896
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: That's where you find him. President Trump meeting was on

897
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: Mom Donnie at the White House today. That's at least

898
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: the plan there. I'm very curious as to two parts,

899
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 2: and I want your thoughts.

900
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: First, why the meeting. Secondly, what the meeting? Why the meeting?

901
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 13: I think that Donald Trump wanted to sort of de

902
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 13: escalate some of the rhetoric that had been generated between

903
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 13: New York City and the White House. I think Zoron

904
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 13: Mamdani sees even more value in that. I think he

905
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 13: is to be seen as somebody who is ready to

906
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 13: not just be an activist but to be actually a

907
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 13: responsible leader in New York, which we're going to discuss

908
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 13: another story which shows how unprepared he is actually to

909
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 13: be that kind of a leader. And I think for

910
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 13: Donald Trump, I think he wants to find ways to

911
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 13: take the sting out of the radical left in terms

912
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 13: of politics, and there's some there's that's a dangerous balance

913
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 13: to play there because you risk making them more credible

914
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 13: in the long run. But one of the issues that

915
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 13: the administration is facing right now is the affordability crisis,

916
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 13: and zarmamm Donnie and the radical left are framing the

917
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 13: affordability crisis in one way, and I think Donald Trump really.

918
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: Does need to seize the.

919
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 13: Initiative on affordability. We've seen JD. Vans talking about that

920
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 13: this week, but I think that this is Donald Trump's

921
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 13: way of trying to get in front of that and

922
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 13: to present his own thoughts so that mont Donnie isn't

923
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 13: the only person talking about affordability in the political sphere

924
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 13: nationally speaking. So there's something for both men to gain here.

925
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 13: I'm not sure how much traction either one is going

926
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 13: to get out of this, but it does have one

927
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 13: other thing, which is to sort of dial down the

928
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 13: bitterness that is so rampant right now, so these two

929
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 13: guys can sit down and have a conversation.

930
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: Lin Levitt said yesterday from the White House briefing that

931
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: a communist is coming to the White House.

932
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: There's no timely down ed this is.

933
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: I guess it's a app This one goes to eleven.

934
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 13: That's where I guess it does go to eleven. I

935
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 13: guess it does go to eleven. But if that was

936
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Speaker 13: the case, I don't think Donald Trump would have agreed

937
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 13: to have the meeting. I think Donald Trump is a

938
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 13: guy who said I will meet with anybody. I will

939
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 13: sit down with anybody, and he proved that in the

940
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Speaker 13: first arm he sat down with Kim from North Korea.

941
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: He's willing to sit down with.

942
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 13: Anybody to discuss issues, as long as that person's willing

943
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 13: to actually discuss professionally. He is a negotiator, that's what

944
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 13: he does. I think the other thing that he gets

945
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 13: out of this is he gets a chance to assess

946
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 13: Mum Donnie more personally. I think he gets a chance

947
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 13: to take a look at this guy, take his measure,

948
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 13: and I think he's much better at that than Mum

949
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 13: Donnie is going in the other direction. I don't think

950
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 13: mum Donnie's got the life experience to do that very well.

951
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 13: Yet Donald Trump's very good at that, and so yeah,

952
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 13: I think that there's tactical gains that can be made here,

953
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 13: but strategically speaking, I don't know that much of anything's

954
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 13: going to get settled.

955
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: And that is true.

956
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: Trump does like to size a people up. He does

957
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: like and engages in that reading of people. Let's take

958
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: a read. I ma'm donnie right, he's a communist, he's

959
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: an Islamist, he's an anti semi. Well, this is the

960
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: story from hot air dot com written by you Ed Morrissey.

961
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: Mom doun anti Semitic pro test Jews misused sacred space

962
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: to remote Israel or something. This was people surrounding what

963
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: was supposed to be this interfaith meeting, screaming globalized the

964
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: into Fada. It's only amazing that no one ended up dead.

965
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: What's the story here, Well, I think you pretty much

966
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: covered it. You had a bunch of people showing up

967
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: with the right outside of the synagogue. Right, they were

968
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: right outside the synagogue. They were screaming globalized the into Fada.

969
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: They were screaming, we need to make them scared, and

970
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: what was going on inside the synagogue was that there

971
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: is an Israeli nonprofit which promotes Aliyah, which is the

972
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: return of the diaspora Jews to Israel. Right, this is

973
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: something that Israel's been doing since the founding of Israel, and.

974
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Speaker 13: This particular group facilitates this. And they were making a

975
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 13: presentation there at this synagogue in New York to tell

976
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 13: the Jews there, Hey, if you want to emigrate back

977
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 13: to Israel, here's how you do it. We can help

978
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 13: you out with this. And then Mamdani is pressed. I

979
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 13: got to remember that I'm done. He's not governor yet

980
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 13: or mayor yet, but he's the mayor elect. And he

981
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 13: gets asked about this, and rather than condemned the anti

982
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 13: Semitic activists that are outside there trying to terrorize the

983
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 13: people inside the synagogue or criticize the police that allowed

984
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 13: that protest to get that close to the synagogue in

985
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 13: the first place. Normally they would have pushed that down

986
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 13: the street a little bit, he said, well, you know,

987
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 13: they shouldn't. They shouldn't use that type of you know, rhetoric.

988
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 13: But the real issue is that the synagogue is allowing

989
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 13: people to use sacred space to violate international law. Now,

990
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 13: there's no international law against Jews returning to Israel. In fact,

991
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 13: there's no international law and I'm using that in scare

992
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 13: quotes that has anything to do with the settlements either,

993
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 13: which is what their point is.

994
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 3: That supposedly the.

995
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: Time or the third time he's brought up this idea

996
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: of international law and the international law in New York City.

997
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he's showing that he really does not have

998
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: an interest in what is the constitution and the laws

999
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: of the land.

1000
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 13: Right, I mean, he was talking about that earlier this

1001
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 13: week in terms either last week or earlier this week,

1002
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 13: in terms of Benjamin Nettyahoo coming to New York City

1003
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 13: and saying that he'd have him arrested because New York

1004
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 13: City is a city. At international law, it most certainly

1005
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 13: is not. New York City is a city that is

1006
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 13: chartered under the constitution of the State of New York,

1007
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 13: which is.

1008
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: Subordinate to the Constitution of the United States.

1009
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 13: International law, to the extent that there is any such

1010
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 13: thing as international law, there is, but it's very limited.

1011
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 13: Is the authority the jurisdiction of the federal government, not

1012
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 13: of the state, and not of a city. And so

1013
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 13: there's no such thing in the United States as a

1014
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 13: city of international law, and the idea that there is.

1015
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 13: First off, I would love to see Mom Donnie go

1016
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 13: in there and personally try to arrest be Naho when

1017
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 13: he's surrounded by not just US Secret Service but probably

1018
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 13: some of his own security personnel. Good luck with that.

1019
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 13: Rite us from prison. But I mean, the whole idea

1020
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 13: is absurd. He is the mayor of a city. He

1021
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 13: is not an arbiter of international law. And my guess

1022
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 13: is that the only international law that he even has

1023
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 13: studied is entirely the product of a couple of seminars

1024
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 13: at whatever university managed to go to.

1025
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 3: Ten thousand percent.

1026
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: Anything he is discussing is theoretical and based on I'm

1027
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: assuming it's based on some level of humanist nonsense view,

1028
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 2: and not based on anything in practicality or anything in history,

1029
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: or anything on any books anywhere. Talking to Ed Marcy

1030
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: of hotair dot com, but when you are a Marxist,

1031
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 2: youat to invent things in order to be able to

1032
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 2: bring justice all the way around. He is what he

1033
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: is what he is, and so when we go back

1034
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: to this meeting with President Trump, I wonder if that's

1035
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: going to be addressed. I wonder to the extent that

1036
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: anything's televised or we get to see the video of it,

1037
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: whether or not that back and forth actually takes place.

1038
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: Trump being definitely a pugilist, whether or not he's going

1039
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: to see whether not Mom Donnie can take a punch,

1040
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: or whether he's gonna be the as Bill Mahrt described,

1041
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: absolutely sweetest pie guy. Let me hear what you have

1042
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: to say, because that's the way I get the best

1043
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 2: read on you. Speaking of reads, ed, let's move over

1044
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: to the story where I have stated, as clear as day,

1045
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: I have no idea how this deal is going to work.

1046
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: Which is this you Steve Whitkoff deal regarding Ukraine and

1047
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: a peace deal as I understand it, and I also

1048
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: want to know your thoughts on how Axios got the

1049
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: story and was able to leak this. The story states that.

1050
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: A new piece deal is on.

1051
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: The table, where Ukraine says to Russia, you get the

1052
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: don bask you get to Netsk, you get Hunsk, you

1053
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: get parts of Zapporsia, this whole eastern section that will

1054
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: lead you down and connect to Crimea. It's more land

1055
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: than Russia's actually taken hold of via these violent means.

1056
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: So talk to me about what you know about this

1057
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: piece deal. And Zelenski's response, which is basically, we either

1058
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: stay friends with the United States or we and if

1059
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: we do that, we give up our dignity.

1060
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 3: Which one do you want to do? Everybody? Which one

1061
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: do you want?

1062
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean the question here isn't so much dignity.

1063
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 13: It is and I get what he's saying, and I

1064
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 13: have a lot of sympathy for Zelenski. I have a

1065
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 13: lot of sympathy for Ukraine. True justice in this case

1066
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 13: would be Russia ejected from Ukraine as it was constituted

1067
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 13: prior to twenty fourteen. When Russia actually took effective control

1068
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 13: of almost all of these territories during the Obama administration.

1069
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 13: They used proxies in the done best. They actually used

1070
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 13: Russian military and crimea. They seized pretty much, well at

1071
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 13: least mostly, everything that would be assigned to them in.

1072
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 3: This peace deal.

1073
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Speaker 13: The tricky part of this here is that those areas

1074
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 13: are primarily Russia, ethnic Russian areas. In the first place,

1075
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 13: they've always been rested against the Ukrainian the ethnic Ukrainians

1076
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 13: in the rest of the country. There's lots of historical

1077
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 13: reasons why the Russians are in the dnbas and why

1078
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 13: the ethnic Ukrainians are elsewhere, But it's been a political

1079
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 13: problem for the last twenty something year twenty five years,

1080
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 13: I think, or twenty two years when the Orange Revolution

1081
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 13: first popped up. That was the ethnic Ukrainians finally getting

1082
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 13: some political control of Ukraine from the ethnic Russians who

1083
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 13: were primarily from the Eastern region, And this is where

1084
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 13: all of this starts off, is during that period of time.

1085
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 13: So I think with this what they're looking at here

1086
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 13: is that there are ethnic Russian territories that Russia is

1087
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 13: simply not going to give up, and they're trying to

1088
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 13: create an ethnic Russian, ethnic Ukrainian state that is defensible

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Speaker 13: by ethnic Ukrainians. And the reason why they're trying to

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Speaker 13: do that is because you've got a four year stalemate.

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Speaker 13: Neither side is actually doing anything in terms of moving

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Speaker 13: the lines to any significant amount, and you've got people

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Speaker 13: dying all over the place in both Russia and Ukraine

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Speaker 13: and especially in the front lines for no reason whatsoever.

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Speaker 13: Over the last three and a half years, nothing's been achieved,

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Speaker 13: nothing's been accomplished. I think Trump just wants to say, look,

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Speaker 13: realistically speaking, the lines are where the lines are at.

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Speaker 13: Let's separate the ethnic Russians from the ethnic Ukrainians and

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Speaker 13: then offer them an Article five type of guarantee to

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Speaker 13: keep Russia from doing this all over again.

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Speaker 2: So what get what makes this weird is that the

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Speaker 2: Article five we're talking about NATO there an attack on one.

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Speaker 3: Is an attack on all.

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Speaker 2: The Article five guarantee came when we said, hey, let's

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Speaker 2: do a rarest minerals type of deal, because that would

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Speaker 2: involve the United States being in extracting those minerals and

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Speaker 2: we are not about to leave them defenseless. They would

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Speaker 2: have security forces.

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Speaker 3: That was the security guarantee. It was it was de

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Speaker 3: facto in the deal, but.

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Speaker 13: It was implied in the deal. This is explicit. It

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Speaker 13: was implied in that, It was implied in the Rare

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Speaker 13: Earth Stale. This is explicit, and were putting sign on

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Speaker 13: with it diference, not really, because that's I mean, the

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Speaker 13: question is whether or not we would follow through on that,

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Speaker 13: because as you know, Tony, that was also it was

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Speaker 13: also explicit in the Budapeste Minimo, and we didn't follow

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Speaker 13: through on the Budapeste memo, and that was part of

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Speaker 13: the reason why we are where we're at right now,

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Speaker 13: is that Ukraine thought we would actually bring troops into

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Speaker 13: Ukraine to fight off the Russians in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 13: based on the Budapeste memo. They gave up, They gave up,

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Speaker 13: you know, nuclear weapons in order to have US guarantee

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Speaker 13: or in exchange for a guarantee of their territorial integrity.

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Speaker 13: We didn't do that, and this is the reason why

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Speaker 13: I think Zelenski is to trust that this security guarantee

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Speaker 13: would be anything different. This one, though, is more explicit

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Speaker 13: that there would be a military response to an invasion,

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Speaker 13: whereas the Budapest memo was foggy on.

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Speaker 3: That particular void. Let's just say it.

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Speaker 13: Was ambiguous for a reason, and they found out what

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Speaker 13: the reason was in February twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: That's Ed Marssey of hotair dot com. I always appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Ed Moore is coming up bomb Tony Katz, and this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 14: We said, just earlier this week you said this place

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Speaker 14: is crooked as a dog's leg when you were talking

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Speaker 14: about a bipartisan group of lawmakers discussing a bill that

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Speaker 14: would ban members of Congress from engaging in insider trade.

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Speaker 3: And everybody wants from not Pelosi.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean she's what is an incredible return on

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Speaker 15: her investments, obviously, but she's like number eleven in the

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Speaker 15: top ten.

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Speaker 10: It's like a rule that people should get on, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's that's right.

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Speaker 15: It seems like maybe Congress would do what's right, but they're.

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Speaker 3: Not going to.

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Speaker 2: Why not, coach, they're greedy and you all let us

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 15: Twelve percent of the population goes to the dad gum

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Speaker 15: polls and they get re elected every dad gum time.

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Speaker 2: That's Congressman Tim Burchett on Ceasefire, which is a Sea

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Speaker 2: Span show with Jared Moskwitz I think Mosquitz is his

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Speaker 2: last name, Democrat, talking about how we shared this, that

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Speaker 2: they're actually going to try and make a move to

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Speaker 2: stop this stock trading by members of Congress, and Birchant's

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Speaker 2: looking suck could pass you guys, don't vote people out.

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Speaker 2: You America ain't doing your job. It's crooked. Go to

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Speaker 2: the Unusual Weales website.

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Speaker 15: Read the top one hundred.

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Speaker 3: I'm not in it. I think we're doing some insider trading.

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Speaker 15: I think some people have some genuine knowledge and grasps

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Speaker 15: with the economic system.

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Speaker 2: Case in point, Jared Moskowitz. He was successful before he

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Speaker 2: got to Congress.

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Speaker 3: But these guys get in.

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Speaker 15: Congress not worth anything, and they lay worth multimillion dollars. Man,

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Speaker 15: we're briefed on stuff before you get it. We have

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Speaker 15: people's ears. People are doing six one hundred trades a year.

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Speaker 3: That's not right.

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Speaker 16: All.

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Speaker 2: Have we actually I brought this up the other day,

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Speaker 2: have we actually found the thing, the one thing in

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Speaker 2: all the madness.

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Speaker 3: That we can agree with.

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Speaker 2: You can't get insider deals, insider information and then tell

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Speaker 2: Americans that we have to play by the rules. You

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Speaker 2: don't play by the rules. Why should we play by

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Speaker 2: the rules. This is fantastic, fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I just hope that he's wrong.

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Speaker 2: I do want this to go somewhere. I do want

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Speaker 2: this nonsense to end. And I am only hoping that

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Speaker 2: he does because if we can agree on this, now,

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Speaker 2: let's see if we can get the pressure campaign going,

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Speaker 2: because that's the only thing members of Congress will listen to.

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Speaker 2: But they'll they'll be full deaf ears because he's right,

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Speaker 2: it's their money and they'll do anything for their money,

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Speaker 2: and oft times for yours as well.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Gott today.

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Speaker 1: Why from the heartland and the crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. Although there are a number of

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Speaker 2: people who want to argue with me on social media

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Speaker 2: that Democrats didn't call for the usurpation of the president

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Speaker 2: of the United States and didn't call on the military

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Speaker 2: not to listen to the presidents of the United States.

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Speaker 2: We all saw and we all heard this video from

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Speaker 2: people like Senator Mark Kelly, Senator Lissi Slutkin of Michigan,

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Speaker 2: and a host of others speak directly to members of

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Speaker 2: the military and the intelligence.

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Speaker 10: Community who take risks each day to.

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Speaker 2: Keep Americans safe.

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Speaker 8: We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.

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Speaker 8: Americans trust their military, with that trust as at risk.

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Speaker 9: This administration is pitting our uniform military.

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Speaker 10: And intelligence community professionals.

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Speaker 2: Begin American citizens like us. You all swore an oath

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Speaker 2: to protect.

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Speaker 10: And defend this constitution.

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Speaker 11: Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming

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Speaker 11: from road, but from right here at home.

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Speaker 2: Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 10: You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: How else could that possibly be seen other than the

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Speaker 2: Democrats there and the Democratic Party writ large saying that

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is giving illegal orders and you should refuse them.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Kurt Schlickter joins me right now, town Hall calumnist. He

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Speaker 2: is the author of the Kelly Turnbull series of books

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Speaker 2: available at Amazon dot com, the latest Panama read coming

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and of course, a retired United

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Speaker 2: States Army a full colonel, and Kurt, I come to

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Speaker 2: you often on some of these military things, but usually

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Speaker 2: military culture things, even though you are a graduate of

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Speaker 2: the of the War College. I don't need to be

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Speaker 2: a guy who served in the military to have commentaries.

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Speaker 2: I have never bought into that argument. I don't need

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Speaker 2: to be aware to be discuss abortion or anything else.

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Speaker 2: How else to take this as a usurpation of saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't listen to President Trump.

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Speaker 3: What was your take when you first heard this?

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Speaker 5: You know it's this in twose thing where they do

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Speaker 5: we just happened to be reminding people of the basic

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Speaker 5: concept of military law and placing in the context of

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump without citing any actual illegal orders. You know

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Speaker 5: what they want to do is, you know, recover control

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Speaker 5: of the military as an institution, which they have. When

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Speaker 5: President and Plant was turning into a social Peatrie dish

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Speaker 5: of defeat and perversions, thankfully Pete Hegseath came along and

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Speaker 5: changed that. Under the presidency of Donald Trump, the disingenuous

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Speaker 5: and kind of cowardly waded to So we're not we're

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Speaker 5: not encouraging not com violate lawful order. What we just said,

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Speaker 5: don't don't do illegal orders? You know stop all right?

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Speaker 5: That that that name work on the idiots who vote

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Speaker 5: for Democrats, But everybody else sees exactly what they're doing,

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Speaker 5: which is to try and to generate dissent because they

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Speaker 5: don't like President Trump's policies.

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Speaker 2: You got if you think there's an illegal order named

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Speaker 2: the Illegal Order.

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Speaker 3: But I gotta tell you if.

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Speaker 5: You're some dumb spec for Barracks lawyer who thinks it's

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Speaker 5: gonna go well, if you decide, well it's illegal when

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Speaker 5: Sergeant schmid Lap tells me to go mop out the toilet,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna end up in Leavenworth, dummy.

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Speaker 3: So let zay won't be there for you. So let's

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Speaker 3: break down a little bit of this. First.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into those levels of specifics, and then let's

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Speaker 2: get into what the clear uh implication is. Well, they

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Speaker 2: never said Douglas and Donald Trump. We know what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to that part too. This has been a

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Speaker 2: unique question, Kurt, where you're also if people don't know

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Speaker 2: a trial lawyer by trade, so you you understand these

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Speaker 2: two unique parts of the military Code of justice and

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Speaker 2: how this legally plays out. How does somebody refuse what

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Speaker 2: can be described as an illegal order?

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Speaker 3: How would that.

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Speaker 5: Happen to the guy on the front lines. Well, it's

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Speaker 5: basically theoretical. Look I've been in I was in twenty

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Speaker 5: seven years. I never once had the quintessential illegal order situation,

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Speaker 5: which is, you know, hey, let's massacre it. Okay, gentlemen,

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Speaker 5: I want you to massacre all these civilians. And you

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Speaker 5: know that that's kind of quintessential illabel order. That's kind

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Speaker 5: of like the example at which point you go, sir,

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Speaker 5: I think I misunderstood because I think you just told

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Speaker 5: me to kill a bunch of civilians.

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Speaker 3: You know I can't do that?

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Speaker 2: Is that what you told me?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You see clarification.

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Speaker 3: You you you.

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Speaker 5: Discuss it with the uh superior officer share your concerns. Uh,

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Speaker 5: the the Again, this stuff has never come up in

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Speaker 5: my career. It never came up in the careers of

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Speaker 5: anybody I know, So it's just ridiculous. So the anglific is,

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Speaker 5: but it is something we're training. Yes, they are technically correct. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you you don't have to follow illegal orders. But there's

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Speaker 5: a process you go when you're confronted with an order

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Speaker 5: that's potential potentially illegal. Uh, and it is a huge

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Speaker 5: risk because if you were wrong, you committed in subordination,

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Speaker 5: and let me tell you, you're probably wrong. They're very few

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Speaker 5: circumstances where somebody says, hey, let's go massacre a bunch

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Speaker 5: of innocent civilians.

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Speaker 3: Again, the quince sent whole h illegal order.

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Speaker 5: Other illegal orders might be I don't know, let's uh,

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Speaker 5: let's steal this stuff from the supply room, put in

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Speaker 5: the truck and drive away.

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Speaker 2: You sure we had to do that.

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Speaker 5: So this is not something that comes up and they

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Speaker 5: didn't just decide, well, you know, let's go uh reiterate

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Speaker 5: a basic concept of military law that every single soldier's

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Speaker 5: trained in, and it almost never comes up. And then

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Speaker 5: they place it, even specifically in the context of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 5: labeling him a threat to our country.

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Speaker 3: Oh, but we're not.

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Speaker 2: We're not trying it.

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Speaker 5: We're not trying to h take away the power of

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Speaker 5: the guy who was you know, elected, We're not trying

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Speaker 5: to do that.

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Speaker 3: We're for minding people that you know it comes up.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, you know it's so gotless and put that in. Well,

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Speaker 2: let's now get into that in two right here talking

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Speaker 2: to Kurt Schlickter of town Hall dot com is a

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Speaker 2: latest book That's Panama Read Kelly Turnbull novel that's coming

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, available at Amazon dot com.

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Speaker 3: Four pre order. You should get your copy.

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Speaker 2: Check out all the Kelly Turnbull books, all of Kurt's books,

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Speaker 2: some of which I've done the audio books for the

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Speaker 2: clear and obvious from this video is to tie the

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Speaker 2: idea of President Trump to illegal orders.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this idea of what happens.

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Speaker 2: You know, you clearly have these democrats saying to usurp

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Speaker 2: and then you have democrats outraged that Trump responded. One

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Speaker 2: of the arguments is Trump responds to bring the subject

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Speaker 2: to the four and your answer to these democrats saying

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Speaker 2: I can't believe Trump said you should execute democrats, your

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Speaker 2: response is.

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Speaker 5: Well, I you know, there was a time when I

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Speaker 5: couldn't believe Democrat allies will try and shoot Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: and actually murder another guy. Corey Compartori. I mean, we

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Speaker 5: just found out Thomas Brooks is another transsexual dediant, which

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Speaker 5: is a key constituent of the Democrat Party. Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 5: was murdered. They celebrated, they just voted for a guy

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Speaker 5: who wants to put bullets in the hands of the Republicans.

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Speaker 5: So I don't care if they're scandalized by Trump's typical

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Speaker 5: rhetorical hykerbally, it doesn't I am completely indifferent to their fate.

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Speaker 2: Protestations.

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Speaker 5: The blood of the Charlie Kirk is barely even dry

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Speaker 5: on the ground, and they're attempting to seize the moral

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Speaker 5: high ground. No, you can't have it, your stumbags. I

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Speaker 5: don't care.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Kurt A. Schlichter of town hall dot Com

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Speaker 2: follow him on Twitter, exit Kurt Schlichter s c H

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Speaker 2: L I c h T e R. Let me bring

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Speaker 2: it over to your latest piece at town Hall. We

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Speaker 2: had the best of times. Now these are the worst

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Speaker 2: of times.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: You and I agree on a number of things, like,

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Speaker 2: for example, my state Indiana and the concept of redistricting.

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Speaker 2: We disagree on a few things about is there such

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Speaker 2: a thing as a new Conservatism and is there an

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Speaker 2: issue with quote unquote old conservatism.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe there's an old Conservatism at all. But

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Speaker 3: certainly one of the things that I've.

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Speaker 2: Always appreciated about you is that you cannot deny the

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Speaker 2: reality that's in front of your face. Never trump Ism,

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Speaker 2: for example, denies reality. You can't say never Trump in

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Speaker 2: the face of Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris or communists, etc.

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Speaker 3: But this is the honesty I've always appreciated that.

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Speaker 2: Right now, for the Republican Party, things have not been

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Speaker 2: going great. So break down the high points of this

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Speaker 2: piece at town hall dot com.

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Speaker 5: Six months ago, you and I were running around high

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Speaker 5: fiving each other after a trail of winds that would

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Speaker 5: make I'm a sports guide. By what shoey o'tani blush.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just.

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Speaker 5: Win after win after win, and now it's the feet

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Speaker 5: set back, loss after defeat, set back and loss, and

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Speaker 5: you know what.

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Speaker 2: That's how things happen in life.

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Speaker 3: We've both been around long enough to know that.

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Speaker 2: Some days you're up at the top.

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Speaker 5: Some days you're you're you're at the bottom of the

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Speaker 5: trough and the bio rhythm, and that's where we are

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Speaker 5: right now. I'm not saying don't be upset. I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying don't learn lessons from it. I am not saying.

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Speaker 5: What I am saying is, hey, things change again. Six

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Speaker 5: months ago we were on top of the world. Where

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Speaker 5: are we going to be six months from now, or

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Speaker 5: more importantly, eleven months from now. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I I think I do.

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Speaker 5: I think the economy is going to get much better,

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Speaker 5: and I think the economy is the key driver for

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Speaker 5: the mid terms.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we do have a lot of problems.

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Speaker 5: We had we we got soundly defeated by the attack

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Speaker 5: of the shardon Na mid women in the recent election.

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Speaker 5: We we got disgusting little rodents like Nick Puentez, who

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Speaker 5: is not a conservative, and we'll tell you he's not

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Speaker 5: a conservative. And you have a bunch of people, including

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Speaker 5: some people on the right, who want to bring them

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Speaker 5: into the Conservative Party to a coalition to essentially delegitimize us,

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Speaker 5: even though he has nothing to do with us. But

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Speaker 5: we do have some people who are trifling with anti

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Speaker 5: Semitism and other stupidities Marjorie Taylor Green and yeah, I

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Speaker 5: mean these are growing pains that you get from a

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Speaker 5: brand new coalition. A this is the first new coalition

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Speaker 5: since FDR eighty years ago.

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Speaker 3: And guys like you and me, and we're very similar.

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Speaker 5: I mean we came up in the Tea party era

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Speaker 5: with Breitbart back in La right, You and I are

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Speaker 5: very very similar. We don't have a lot of simi

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Speaker 5: samilarities or thought. We din't to say the Maha mom

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Speaker 5: who may be very liberal about everything else but agrees

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Speaker 5: with us that no, you shouldn't poison children.

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Speaker 2: And yet we're part of the same color.

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Speaker 3: Reliston. We have figure out how to work together, how

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Speaker 3: to look at how to resolve the differences that we

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Speaker 3: legitimately have. And we do have differences.

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Speaker 5: We can't agree on everything and we don't, but we're

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Speaker 5: going to have some bumps in the road.

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Speaker 2: But there's a difference between, you know, the disagreements and

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Speaker 2: some things that simply can't be attenable.

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Speaker 3: You bring up n Yan says, which brings up the

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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 2: I think Megan Kelly has really gotten herself into this

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Speaker 2: mixed Candie Owens, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a policy prescription here. Do you have

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Speaker 3: a way this works out?

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Speaker 2: Because I don't have a way this works out where

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Speaker 2: Nick Frantes is part of my gang.

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Speaker 5: Now he doesn't want to be part of your gang,

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Speaker 5: which is fine with media one in only time I

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Speaker 5: remant face to face, I tried to punch him if

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Speaker 5: he didn't get away from you.

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Speaker 2: Met Nick Flint?

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Speaker 3: Where were you?

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Speaker 5: I was at seapack and the little weasel comes down, Hey, Ni,

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Speaker 5: So I.

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Speaker 2: Was like, get away from it, okay.

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Speaker 3: So that is the seapack because I was there.

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Speaker 2: I was smoking a cigar with Fingers Boulogne a host

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Speaker 2: of other people around the fire pit and they were

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Speaker 2: having an event in like like the Quasi ballroom, and

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Speaker 2: it was like all the police presidences everywhere were like,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: It's freaking wlent, he said.

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Speaker 5: It is such a he says, so gross, and he

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Speaker 5: doesn't want to be one of us. Wayne wants to

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Speaker 5: do his terracedale and then you know, become a warlord

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Speaker 5: of a small part of the ashes because he's an.

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Speaker 2: Inceell loser and that's that's how they do it.

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Speaker 5: But that I mean, the Democrats have their pride with

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Speaker 5: problem with weird radicals too. We just have a much

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Speaker 5: smaller problem. I am concerned that some of the people

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Speaker 5: have taken the young no for Otter wars to a

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Speaker 5: ridiculous extent, which says, let's let's abandon Israel, which is

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Speaker 5: fighting our war against or civilization's enemies.

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Speaker 3: But again, a fight.

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Speaker 5: We've got to have. But you know, there are ways

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Speaker 5: to have a fight that's a constructive way. And then

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Speaker 5: there's Candace Owens saying Kurt more than her husband.

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Speaker 3: I don't have the text. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: The way you deal with things is like an adult,

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01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 5: and you tell the children shut up, don't don't be stupid,

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Speaker 5: and you work it out with people who it can

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Speaker 5: be worked out with.

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Speaker 3: But I wrote a love letter column to Susan Collins

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Speaker 3: a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Susan Collins and I agree on about seventy percent

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Speaker 5: of things. And I'm thrilled to have her as a

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Speaker 5: Republican because I'm never going to do better in me Evra,

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Speaker 5: and she's there seventy percent of the time, doesn't pretend

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Speaker 5: to be anything else, doesn't tell me she's not a

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Speaker 5: David Frenchware, you're not a conservative because you will vote.

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Speaker 2: For Avala Harris.

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Speaker 5: She just does your thing and does her job for constituents.

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Speaker 5: She's fine. I can work with people who don't agree

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Speaker 5: with me about everything. I can't work with my ends.

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Speaker 2: Kurt Schlichter find his books at Amazon dot com the

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Speaker 2: Kelly Turnbull series of books Panama Read coming out in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, the columns at town Hall dot com.

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Speaker 2: Kurt always a pleasure more to get to keep it here.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. I am very happy to

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Speaker 2: see the moves being made by the Governor of Texas,

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Speaker 2: Greg Abbott, because it's I would argue imperative that we

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Speaker 2: recognize that's the Muslim brotherhood, that the Council of American

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Speaker 2: Islamic Relations are an issue to defend hatred, to defend bigotry,

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Speaker 2: and to defend in many cases violent activity, terrorist activity.

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Speaker 3: You know, people have a hard.

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Speaker 2: Time with this conversation because they take it as, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, you're being anti Muslim, not in the slightest.

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Speaker 2: I am anti Islamist. I don't shy away from it.

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Speaker 2: I don't apologize for it. Any rational person is anti Islamist.

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Speaker 2: I'm anti Sharia. It is a problem. It is absolutely

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Speaker 2: incompatible with American society. It's incompatible with Western civilization, and

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Speaker 2: as we have seen across the planet, it's incompatible with Muslims.

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Speaker 2: It only leads to death and destruction. Did I say hello,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats.

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Speaker 3: Today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Governor Greg Gabbott in Texas designating both the Council and

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Speaker 2: American Islamic Relations and the Muslim Brotherhood as foreign terrorist

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Speaker 2: organisms and transnational criminal organizations. Now, I have no idea

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Speaker 2: whether a governor can designate a group a terrorist organization,

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Speaker 2: but a governor absolutely can notice how money moves and

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Speaker 2: changes hands and goes from one place to another and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: that's a serious, serious problem. You know, I was talking

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Speaker 2: about the story the other day that's in City Journal

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Speaker 2: from Ryan Thorpe and Christo Rufo about how in Minnesota

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Speaker 2: you have people stealing from Medicare funds and taking those

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Speaker 2: stolen dollars sending them back to Somalia. Remember, they have

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Speaker 2: a very large Somalian population in Minneapolis, and that money

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Speaker 2: ends up in the group of Al Shahab sorry Shabab,

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Speaker 2: and al Shabab is a terrorist organization. If you take

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Speaker 2: a look at what's happening through their Medicaid Housing Stabilization

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Speaker 2: Services program was something that Minnesota created. How it's been

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Speaker 2: spending more and more money year after year. In twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, it paid out twenty one million dollars in claims,

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Speaker 2: and in twenty twenty five, the first six months it's

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Speaker 2: paid out sixty one million dollars in claims, which will

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Speaker 2: put it at one hundred and twenty two million dollars

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Speaker 2: for the year. This has been utilized as a way

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Speaker 2: of engaging fraud and making all sorts of claims about

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Speaker 2: housing and about children having autism, and well, we need

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Speaker 2: money for this and money for that, and then these

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Speaker 2: families are getting money, and that money is being funneled

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Speaker 2: back to Somalia, and that money is being.

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Speaker 3: Received by terrorist organizations.

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Speaker 2: It is an insane article over there at City Journal.

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Speaker 2: It's stunning. These kinds of things can't be allowed in

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01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 2: the United States. We cannot be people funding our own destruction.

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01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 2: And I don't want to hear someone say, yeah, but

1522
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: religious freedom. This isn't religious freedom. This is funding terrorism,

1523
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 2: which really gets us, of course, into the fundamental The

1524
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Islamist is not engaged in religion.

1525
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 3: It's a political movement, and.

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01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 2: That is not something that we have to put up with.

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01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 2: We are guaranteed via Article four, Section four of the

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01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:20,440
Speaker 2: United States Constitution, a republic form of government, and anything

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01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 2: that is a.

1530
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 3: Threat to that must be dealt with as a threat.

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01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 2: And I argue with force, and someone claiming religious freedom

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01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,919
Speaker 2: feel the air quotes does.

1533
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 3: Not have an argument. We have to be honest about

1534
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 3: these things, and that's what.

1535
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 2: I like about what it is that Greg Abbott has

1536
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 2: done here. The honesty is necessary and the conversation has

1537
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 2: to happen yesterday. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com.

1538
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz Today. Sometimes

1539
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 2: there's just too much news in a week, and pretty

1540
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 2: soon that Tony Katz dot com site is going to

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01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 2: have all the things that.

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01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 3: I can't get to, consider all the radio I do.

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01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: It's amazing, but yeah, there's that much going on. Tony

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01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 2: Kats Tony Kats Today, So good to be with you.

1545
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: But there's also so much audio, so much insanity being

1546
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 2: said that I can't get to every week. So sometimes

1547
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 2: I just gathered all together and I bring you well.

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01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 3: We call it the audio dump on this feel good Friday.

1549
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 3: It's not time for it.

1550
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:27,839
Speaker 2: Tony Katz audio dump.

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01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 3: Do you hear yourself, Jude.

1552
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 2: Gom down, My god, this is so awesome. She always does.

1553
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 2: I swear to you, we need a better name than

1554
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: audio dump. I mean, this just is this. It's just wrong.

1555
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 2: Just to hear it that way even makes me go.

1556
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 3: But it is what it is.

1557
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 2: Mika Brazinski over there at ms NOW used to be

1558
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 2: MSNBC saying, you know what, we have to prove women

1559
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 2: can win the presidency. And that's why.

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01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,680
Speaker 3: There's data that shows sort of this.

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01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 8: If we're looking for, if people want to backlash, the

1562
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 8: antidote to Trump, in many cases, that is women, that's

1563
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 8: women of color.

1564
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 5: And I think voters are really seeing that and thinking

1565
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 5: about it.

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01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 14: Yeah, Kamala Harris is why we should nominate a woman again, Right.

1567
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is exactly why you should nominate a woman again.

1568
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: Ten thousand percent. That's what everybody says, Kamala Harris.

1569
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 3: Let's repeat that.

1570
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 2: The amazing part of the arguments that these people.

1571
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,440
Speaker 3: Make time and time and time again.

1572
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 2: Is that it doesn't have to have any tether at

1573
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: all in any way to reality. It just has to

1574
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 2: be something that sounds like it would be I don't know,

1575
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 2: inspiring to women. Who how did Kurt Schleicher call it?

1576
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Who ring chardonnay all day? Right? Like just to that crowd.

1577
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right.

1578
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 2: Also, I hate my husband so incredibly much, Like it's

1579
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 2: just that kind of complaining awful. And you say to me, man,

1580
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 2: that's a really awful stereotype. You're not gonna get women

1581
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 2: that way. I put forth to you, We're not gonna

1582
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: get women like that, no matter what. They are in

1583
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 2: a completely different world. They're on a completely different planet

1584
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:30,440
Speaker 2: than certainly me, certainly women like my wife. My gosh,

1585
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 2: if you went to one of these liberal schools, there's

1586
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:38,759
Speaker 2: no hope. If you you can disagree with me about

1587
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,560
Speaker 2: let's say abortion, but if you disagree.

1588
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 3: With me.

1589
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 2: About women men being in women's locker rooms and your

1590
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 2: daughter having to compete against a boy or a man,

1591
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 2: and your daughter having to change with a man like

1592
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 2: in a locker room or in a bathroom situation, well

1593
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 2: then I don't know what to say.

1594
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 3: Hey, I have no way of connecting with that person.

1595
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 2: I have no way of changing that person that's going

1596
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 2: to come over a long, long period of time, if

1597
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 2: it comes at all, that person is lost. You hate

1598
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 2: your daughter that much? What am I supposed to do

1599
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 2: about that? I can't connect with that person. I cannot

1600
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 2: connect with the woman who says that no matter what

1601
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 2: Trump does, oh so terrible, He's just the worst. I

1602
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 2: tell you, like, I don't know if they're gonna sound

1603
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 2: like that.

1604
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 3: That's just my impression.

1605
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 2: For the sake of this, I have no idea how

1606
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to connect to that person.

1607
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 3: I think that person generationally is lost.

1608
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 2: And if this is actually one of the arguments I

1609
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 2: make against sending your kids to college, don't do it.

1610
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: Don't send your kids to school where they are gonna

1611
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 2: where they're gonna hate you and then they do hate

1612
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: their husbands.

1613
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you think I'm making something up here.

1614
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: Dear lord, there is a whole story out of the suburbs,

1615
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 2: in multiple suburbs, that we should all be addressing here.

1616
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 3: That is very, very, very true.

1617
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 2: Which is what happens when you hate men and yet

1618
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 2: you marry one, and someone's gonna say to me, I

1619
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:04,799
Speaker 2: can't believe you're talking about this, Tony.

1620
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 3: It's true? Is it true of all women? Absolutely not.

1621
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 2: That's nuts. Is there a subset that clearly are progressive,

1622
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 2: where it's absolutely true ten billion percent. And then there

1623
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 2: are the men who hate themselves. Oh there's a whole.

1624
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 3: Bunch to get to. And I'm not discussing disagreements on policy.

1625
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,680
Speaker 2: We might have a disagreement about Ukraine or Israel or

1626
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 2: the European Union, in free speech or the border or

1627
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 2: a border or right.

1628
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 3: We can have disagreements and a great number of things.

1629
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:42,440
Speaker 2: But what I'm discussing is the very concepts of survival

1630
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 2: and in the case of the trans conversation, whether or

1631
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 2: not your daughter has a shot, and women who say, well,

1632
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 2: my daughter's gonna have to learn to compete, and she's

1633
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 2: now have to learn to take a back seat. Maybe

1634
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 2: she's not the best. That's a hate. Have no way

1635
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 2: of connecting to people who advocate for the idea that

1636
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 2: it is better to destroy the nation because Trump's so bad,

1637
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 2: right that to be that lost in the TDS and

1638
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 2: that Trump derangement syndrome, which I give, it's real, it's true,

1639
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 2: it's there. It's it's absolutely nutty, it's it's beyond comprehension,

1640
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 2: but it is absolutely there. I can't connect. I can't

1641
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 2: connect with those people. I have no capacity to connect

1642
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 2: with those people. I would love to be able to

1643
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 2: play a part in their lives. I would love to

1644
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 2: be able to make a difference in their lives. Now,

1645
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 2: maybe there's some hope for the Democratic Party because here

1646
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 2: is Nazi tattoo on the chess guy Graham Platner, a

1647
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 2: Democrat running for Senate in Maine, saying men shouldn't be

1648
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 2: in women's sports. Oh no, wait, no, eight, he is

1649
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 2: saying that men should be in women's sports. That's gonna

1650
01:37:58,280 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 2: be a state questions, sat question.

1651
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 16: I'm running for federal office.

1652
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 5: But you don't have an opinion on whether what you

1653
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 5: think whether transgender girl should play high school sports or

1654
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 5: whether they should be banned.

1655
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1656
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 16: I do not think they should be banned. I think

1657
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 16: banning people from playing in sports in the gender that

1658
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 16: they see themselves as and identify as doing that in

1659
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:25,839
Speaker 16: a wholesale way is going to be restricted of people's race.

1660
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 3: And there it is.

1661
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: I can't help that guy, and I can't help anybody

1662
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 2: who would possibly vote for him. Boys should play in

1663
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 2: girls sports, men should play in women's sports. I can't

1664
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 2: do anything for that guy. I can't also stop him

1665
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 2: from sounding like the jolly green giant. He's just got

1666
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 2: that low, deep barazone. So it's sometimes hard to hear

1667
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 2: on radio Jasmine Crockett makes the audio dump. I know,

1668
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 2: no Jasmine Crockett masterpiece theater today, just some standard good

1669
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 2: old everybody I don't like?

1670
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 3: Is a racist talk? Do they not?

1671
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 17: Even honestly they are about to outlaw the idea of

1672
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 17: white supremacy and white hate, like they are about to

1673
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 17: be like, oh, that's not a thing.

1674
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 2: Forget the fact that you're.

1675
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 17: Talking about getting rid of like the classification for nowses,

1676
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 17: and a time in which we have seen these random

1677
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 17: black bodies be strung up down South, also seemingly at

1678
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 17: a time in which you're back in office.

1679
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 2: Because what you do is you embolden the hate.

1680
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 17: You embolden everybody to take off their hoods. That is

1681
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 17: what he has done. He is the one that is

1682
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 17: producing this violence.

1683
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 2: Listen, what random black bodies are being strung up down south?

1684
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,839
Speaker 2: Don't ask? Don't ask? Do you understand the Jasmin Crockett

1685
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 2: isn't bright and she's flat outline because she wants to

1686
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 2: jet up rachel hate. That's the way she gets votes.

1687
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 2: But what is she talking about. She's talking about the

1688
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 2: story from the Washington Post, and the Washington Post story

1689
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,879
Speaker 2: was the US Coast Guard will know no longer classify

1690
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:04,839
Speaker 2: the swastika, NEWSS and the Confederate flag as hate symbols.

1691
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 2: The military service drafted a new policy that classifies them

1692
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 2: as potentially divisive, to which people depending.

1693
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 3: On are like, what the hell is wrong with you?

1694
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 2: That leads to a statement from the Coast Guard. The

1695
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 2: claims that the US Coast Guard will no longer classify

1696
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 2: swastika's NEWSS or other extremist imagery as prohibited symbols are

1697
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 2: categorically false. These symbols have been and remain prohibited in

1698
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 2: the Coastguard per policy. Any display used for promotion of

1699
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: such symbols, as always, will be thoroughly investigated and severely punished.

1700
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 2: The Coast Guard remains unwavering in its commitment to fostering

1701
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 2: a safe, respectful, and professional workplace. Symbols such as swastikas,

1702
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 2: NEWSS and other extremists or racist imagery violate our core

1703
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 2: values and are treated with the seriousness they warrant under

1704
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 2: current policy. That's from Admiral Kevin Lunday. He's the acting

1705
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 2: commandant to the US Coast Guard. What are you people

1706
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 2: talking about?

1707
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 3: What exactly is wrong with you? In the answer as well?

1708
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 2: Everything, But for Jasmine Crockett, this is the standard run

1709
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 2: of the mill. I'm black, and therefore I get to

1710
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 2: say anything I want and call everybody I don't like

1711
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 2: a racist and there's nothing you can do about it,

1712
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: because if you say something about it, well then I

1713
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 2: get to call you a racist for noticing what I'm saying.

1714
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 2: Because I'm a black woman. You're not allowed to say that,

1715
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 2: of course I can. You're a bigot, Jasmine Crockett, this

1716
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 2: is ridiculous nonsense. What black bodies are you? What a

1717
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:43,759
Speaker 2: thing to say? Just so you make sure you heard

1718
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 2: that random black bodies be strung up down South?

1719
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 3: I think it's the exact.

1720
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 2: Quote that I have here.

1721
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 3: What kind of thing is this? What kind of madness

1722
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 3: is this?

1723
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Also? Where is this happening? So we could find who

1724
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 2: is doing this and throw them in jail or worse,

1725
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:10,520
Speaker 2: you would think this would make the fun pages of CNN. Somehow,

1726
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 2: this would appr on MSNBC maybe instead of the Epstein Files.

1727
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 2: We'll be talking about this as well, maybe a little bit,

1728
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:18,520
Speaker 2: maybe something.

1729
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 3: But this isn't happening. She just made it up.

1730
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 2: And of course when she makes her videos, she goes

1731
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 2: into that what they call code switching and the affectations.

1732
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 3: You go back to her life prior Congress, and she.

1733
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 2: Spoke one way and now she speaks another way, and

1734
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, we get it. You're trying to prove

1735
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 2: yourself somehow and in some way. It's just it's just

1736
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 2: flat out horrifying. And then, of course, well it's California,

1737
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 2: so anybody can run for governor.

1738
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 18: Been in these fights as a city council member up

1739
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 18: in Dublin, my hometown, as a prosecutor in Oakland, and

1740
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,879
Speaker 18: taking on the most corrupt president ever in the US Congress.

1741
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 18: But I'm ready to bring this fight home. So I

1742
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 18: came here tonight, Jimmy to tell you in your audience

1743
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 18: that I'm running to be the next governor of California.

1744
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm excited to do it.

1745
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 2: You don't want standing ovation from the Jimmy Kimmel crowd

1746
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 2: for the guy who never had sex with a Chinese

1747
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 2: spy named Fang Fang.

1748
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 3: Oh, that is that's my take. If you didn't know that,

1749
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 3: you know the show.

1750
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,679
Speaker 2: The story is there was this Chinese spy, her name

1751
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 2: is Fang Fang, and the you know what kind of

1752
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 2: pillow talk, and what was happening with him and the

1753
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 2: spy and the connections and everything else. I argue, there's

1754
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 2: no way he had sex with the Chinese spy. There's

1755
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 2: no way he was able to get that done. No, no, no,

1756
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 2: he just wasn't up for it. Oh I said it.

1757
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 2: I meant I'm not apologizing for anything. Not man enough,

1758
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:57,879
Speaker 2: no way, no, how never ever ever happened. He's running

1759
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,680
Speaker 2: for governor of California.

1760
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 3: Man, you would think for.

1761
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 2: A moment that people would listen to him and say,

1762
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 2: what is he actually accomplished other than the Trump hate?

1763
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 3: And the answer is, what else do you actually need? Tony?

1764
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 2: Trump hate is enough. Trump hate is everything. Trump hate

1765
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 2: wins the day, time and time and time and time again.

1766
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: You don't need anything else. You don't need to actually

1767
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 2: have a record, you don't need to have legislation that

1768
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 2: you can point to. Well, I was in favor of

1769
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 2: Trump's impeachment. WELLM Saul, let's vote for him.

1770
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 3: I have never been more happy.

1771
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 2: More thrilled, more overjoyed that I moved out of California.

1772
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 3: That I left.

1773
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 2: It was absolutely the right. I mean no, don't get

1774
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 2: me wrong, It's because I got the job. People move

1775
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 2: for jobs all the time. I got the job here

1776
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. I took the job here in Indianapolis. I

1777
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: moved my family to Indianapolis sight unseen. Not let people

1778
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 2: know that I moved up my family. They had never

1779
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,839
Speaker 2: been here before. And I was like, hey, missus Kats,

1780
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 2: see this house you live here, now, have a nice day,

1781
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 2: And she of course swooned, because that's how I tell

1782
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 2: the story. But more importantly, it's worked out very, very

1783
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 2: well for me, and being out of California has worked

1784
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 2: out great for me. I loved my time in California.

1785
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:37,719
Speaker 2: I love mountains more than oxygen. I adored my time.

1786
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: I had friends in California, one of my dearest friends

1787
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 2: in the world, business partners still to this day, and

1788
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 2: love the place. But I've never been more happy that

1789
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm gone, and I ain't going back, and I wouldn't

1790
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 2: dream of going back in Eric Swallwells, California. Good gosh,

1791
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 2: keep it here. This is Tony Kats today. I really

1792
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 2: don't know how this Ukraine deal is gonna fly. I'm

1793
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 2: staring at it. I'm looking at what's been leaked here

1794
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 2: and I just don't know how anybody's gonna go for this.

1795
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz. Today, Zelenski's argument is this plan

1796
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 2: forces Ukraine to choose between dignity and the United States.

1797
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 2: The plan says that Ukraine gives up the Dunbass completely,

1798
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: and that's an issue now.

1799
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 3: I will tell you that.

1800
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 2: His plan, the Trump Plan, says you get NATO style

1801
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 2: security guarantees. A twenty eight point plan that was presented

1802
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 2: to Vladimir Zelenski. They give up the Dunbask, they give

1803
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 2: up the Dnetsk and Lahansk, and they give up parts

1804
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:50,879
Speaker 2: of of Portia.

1805
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 3: Russia will get.

1806
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 2: More land than they currently occupy right now. So this

1807
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 2: is a huge, huge change from where they were. This

1808
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 2: started with you know, Ukraine's gonna give up land, and

1809
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 2: then it went too well.

1810
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 3: If if Russia isn't gonna play ball, you know what,

1811
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 3: maybe Ukraine will get on the land back.

1812
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:23,680
Speaker 2: And now Ukraine's gonna give up land. It's Steve Whitkoff

1813
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 2: who has taken the lead here and you and what

1814
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 2: Zelensky is saying is this is insane. How in the

1815
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 2: world do we do this, How possibly can we be

1816
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 2: a part of this? The pressure in Ukraine is now

1817
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 2: among the heaviest. Ukraine may now face a very difficult choice,

1818
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 2: the loss of dignity or the risk of losing a

1819
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 2: key partner. Zelenski warning that Ukraine face is an extremely

1820
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 2: harsh winter if he doesn't go with Trump's offer.

1821
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 3: You want to talk about not having the cards, I don't.

1822
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how NATO responds. Find everything at

1823
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Speaker 2: tonycats dot com.

1824
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Speaker 3: Monday.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, take care,