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Speaker 1: Okay, so Michelle Obama is saying something.

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Speaker 2: She said Americans are not ready to elect a woman president.

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Speaker 3: It's nice that she knows the difference.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta Casey, by the way, I'm rob that's Casey.

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Speaker 1: The Obamas sort of seem like they're not a thing anymore, right,

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Speaker 1: Like it's sort of like America has moved on from them. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I get if if you're a Democrat

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Speaker 1: can and you have an event where Barack Obama is

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Speaker 1: the headliner or whatever, people are going to show up.

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Speaker 1: He's a former president. He was you know, Biden was

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Speaker 1: such a disaster. Like the Democrats probly don't even claim him.

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Speaker 1: So he's probably the last Democrat president gets claimed. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying to the standpoint of nobody would be there.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem there's like the aura or the

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Speaker 1: special anymore. It used to be, Oh, the Obama's whatever

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Speaker 1: they're doing. It just it's turning to gold and it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: That's it seems like those days are over. Well what

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Speaker 1: is he doing these days? I don't see him as often,

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Speaker 1: And every time I see her, whether it's on her podcast,

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Speaker 1: is a guest on somebody else's show. She's just complaining

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Speaker 1: about something. Well, it is fascinate because you and I

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Speaker 1: have talked about this for years. There's every so often

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Speaker 1: there's some celebrity that ponders or.

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Speaker 3: Run for public office.

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Speaker 1: Whether it was Hey the Rock is gonna run for

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Speaker 1: president or Oprah's gonna run for president, or was the

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Speaker 1: most reason was Matthew McConaughey is going for governor of Texas.

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Speaker 1: And they don't pull the trigger on it because eventually

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Speaker 1: you gotta have a position on something. And the hype,

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Speaker 1: it's sort of like all these college quarterbacks, Arch.

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Speaker 4: Manning is gonna be the greatest quarterback of all time.

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Speaker 4: His autograph is selling for seven hundred dollars. And remember

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Speaker 4: for the season, I was like, what if he's not

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Speaker 4: that great? It was like, you're crazy.

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Speaker 1: And then try wasn't very good and that kid from

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Speaker 1: LSU wasn't very good this year. Like all other than

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Speaker 1: Mendoza from IU, all the tippy top projected quarterbacks have

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Speaker 1: been Stinksville. And that's an example of the hype. The

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Speaker 1: hype is ridiculous. And then you got to see him

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Speaker 1: play it out in the fielding and you can never

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Speaker 1: match the hype. Almost no matter how good you actually are,

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Speaker 1: the same thing is true for politicians. Why the celebrities

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Speaker 1: don't pull the trigger because they know they will immediately

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Speaker 1: alienate half of their base. Obama was like the first

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Speaker 1: sort of celebrity politician in the sense of he wasn't

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Speaker 1: a celebrity before running, but he was.

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Speaker 3: They met in the medium made him a.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity, like this guy is bigger than life, right, Like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna soothe the world, He's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have one great speech, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: everyone loved him.

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Speaker 1: And then he had to govern. And once he started governing,

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Speaker 1: he just sort of governed as some regular liberal with

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Speaker 1: bad ideas that didn't help the country.

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Speaker 3: And so my point in all of that is the

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Speaker 3: hype with these politics.

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Speaker 1: Why it amazes me these people get fired up about

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Speaker 1: politicians they weren't.

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Speaker 3: Meeting them, are oh this is great.

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Speaker 1: They're just they're just failures, right, They just people will

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Speaker 1: let you down. And I think with Obama they time

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Speaker 1: has started to bear that out.

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Speaker 2: Them on paper is better than what they are in reality.

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Speaker 3: You know, There's that's why you should always have low expectation.

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Speaker 1: I wish we had the audio to this. I didn't

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Speaker 1: think about until he got into it. But what a

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Speaker 1: phenomenal movie.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Have you ever seen this called High Fidelity?

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Speaker 1: John Cusack owns a record store and keV, have you

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Speaker 1: ever seen the movie High Fidelity with John Cusack?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen bits and pieces.

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Speaker 1: Great movie, early two thousands or late nineties. Young Jack

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Speaker 1: Black in the movie with him. He owns this record

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Speaker 1: store and there's all sorts of famous people in this movie,

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Speaker 1: and he gets this idea that, you know, his whole

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Speaker 1: life is records and music, and he gets this idea

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Speaker 1: that he has this like fever dream and it actually

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Speaker 1: involved he's talking to Bruce Springsteen like the real guy,

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Speaker 1: and he comes up with this idea that he can

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Speaker 1: move forward with his life if he makes a list

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Speaker 1: of his five favorite all time girlfriends. And he goes

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Speaker 1: back and he finds him and he tracks him down

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Speaker 1: and he tells him this long goodbye, like how much

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Speaker 1: they meant to him, and I'm moving on with my

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Speaker 1: life and I got to get closure on my all

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Speaker 1: time my all time top top five And Springsteen's listening

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Speaker 1: to him strum of the guitar and goes, he goes,

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Speaker 1: it'll make them it'll make them feel better. And Springsten goes,

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Speaker 1: it'll make you feel better. And it's sort of like

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Speaker 1: where we're at with this, like it it makes you

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Speaker 2: So Michelle Obama, she said that we're not ready to

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Speaker 2: elect a woman president, don't waste her time. She cited

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's loss to Donald Trump as evidence. She's been

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Speaker 2: out promoting her new book called The Look, and the

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Speaker 2: book is about fashion beauty. In the scrutiny she endured

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Speaker 2: during her time as First.

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Speaker 1: Lady, isn't the victim mentality of these people just simply unbelievable?

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Speaker 1: Like you were the first Lady of the United States.

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Speaker 1: You were afforded all these riches and then the fortune

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Speaker 1: that came after that because of these book deals, movie deals,

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Speaker 1: You live in all these houses. Your party was asking

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Speaker 1: you to run for president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: You you thought, I remember when we had that conversation

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Speaker 2: and I said, there going to pull Joe Biden. He's

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Speaker 2: not going to be the candidate. And you said it's

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Speaker 2: going to be Michelle Obama. And I was like, I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be her, but I know

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Speaker 2: it's not going to be Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: And then you say, okay, well, there are men. Two

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Speaker 1: women who have run for president. They have been major

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Speaker 1: party nominees for president. They have both lost, not because

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Speaker 1: they were women, but because they were just horrible candidates.

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, before Kamala Harris, was the most unlikable person

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Speaker 1: in recent history to ever have a major party domination

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Speaker 1: for president. It's the same reason Al Gordon win the

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Speaker 1: presidency against Bush. The stain of the Clinton stays with them.

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Speaker 1: The country does not want more of the Clintons. With

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, she did not separate herself from Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: She was a continuation of Biden. Anything to do with

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Speaker 3: her being a woman.

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Speaker 1: It had to do with the fact that people said,

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Speaker 1: we have seen the condition of the country. We're once

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Speaker 1: again going to try something different with Trump again, just

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Speaker 1: like the last time. It doesn't appear to be all

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Speaker 1: that different.

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Speaker 2: Well, with Kamala Harris, it also is. She didn't come

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Speaker 2: across as the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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Speaker 1: No, a woman could totally be president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: I would totally vote for a woman for president if

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Speaker 1: she were the best can espousing views of liberty and

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Speaker 1: freedom and limited government and lower taxes and paying down

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Speaker 1: her national den in, getting inflation under control, like women

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Speaker 1: can do anything in society now, and the idea that

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Speaker 1: like she's using that as some sort of crutch for

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Speaker 1: a victim impact statement, it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because she wrote in her book that women

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Speaker 2: in politics are often judged on appearance rather than leadership ability,

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Speaker 2: and she said that she wants to reclaim her story

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Speaker 2: after years of intense public analysis of her clothing and hair.

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Speaker 2: But I go back to every time I see her

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Speaker 2: on any podcast or any show, she's talking about her

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Speaker 2: clothing and hair. Her book is about fashion and beauty.

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Speaker 3: Are you saying she's a hypocrite?

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Speaker 2: Saying?

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're implying?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Are you besmirching the good name of Michelle Obama?

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Speaker 3: Is it a good name?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'd just come back to I think you've reached

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Speaker 1: a point with them, just like with you know, any

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Speaker 1: of these politicians or these athletes or whatever, where they

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Speaker 1: didn't meet the expectation. He was a two term president

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Speaker 1: again because the Republicans were so bad. Romney was such

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Speaker 1: a bad candidate or he would not have even been

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Speaker 1: re elected. And he didn't really accomplish anything good for

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Speaker 1: the country. His signature thing, Obamacare, is a disaster to

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Speaker 1: this day. And so outside of the people who are like.

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Speaker 2: See forty three days of government shut.

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Speaker 1: Down, right, and people just say, I think people average

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Speaker 1: person goes, yeah, you just were kind of a guy,

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Speaker 1: and once you kind of become a guy. To those people,

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Speaker 1: they need to be worshiped, they need to be elevated,

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Speaker 1: they need to be.

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Speaker 3: You know, oh they're here. Thank God, they're here. The

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Speaker 3: world is going to be better.

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Speaker 1: And the most people have just seen through that with

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Speaker 1: the Obama