1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,360 Speaker 1: Wow. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Finally trying some new bourbon in the year twenty twenty six. 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: But we did have old forrester last week. 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: Trying our second new bourbon of twenty twenty six. 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: It's Eat Drink Smoke. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker. 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: Fingers molloy. This is from fifteen Stars, First West Toasted Oak, 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey. 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: That's a fistful right there. Yeah, fifteen Stars. It's fifteen 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: Stars is the group. 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: It is the first of that's the distillery First West 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Toasted Oak Bourbon. 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: Can I tell you As we're recording this, we're doing 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: video as well. And that light came on behind you too. 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal is. Lights are just 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: popping on left and right. So right now you've got 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: this whole like Lou Hugh behind you, angelic, kind of 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: like daytime stripper. 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: People show up for the buffet. 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: Oh, of course, and they stay for the go on. 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: So we've got ourselves a bourbon here that comes in at. 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: Ninety eight proof. 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: No applause, no plause for anything less than one hundred proof. 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 1: From Fingers muloy. 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: This is a blend of five six and seven year 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: old bourbons Fingers muloy. I want to say we've done 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: something fifteen stars before, but I can't quite remember what 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: it is. 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: But I know we haven't done this. Oh that's pretty. 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: Five six and seven year old Kentucky Bourbon. 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Whiskies is what makes this up? I like the. 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: Blend idea more and more, I will admit. I mean, 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: I can appreciate single barrows. I can appreciate what's happening. 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: But if you want to create something where you're able 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: to get longevity and you know, be able to offer 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: it out more of the product to more people, the 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: blends make perfect sense. And I'm starting to get a 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: real appreciation that it doesn't just have to be the 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: single barrel. It doesn't just have to be this what 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: you're you're told is all, well, that's what makes it good. 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: Good is good, guys, good is good. 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Now. 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: This got released like eight months ago. This is July 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and that knows. First of all, the 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: color here a little more in the in the in 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: the honey, right, a little orange, not necessarily amber, not 48 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: necessarily red. 49 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, in the orange honey. That's fair. 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: I would agree with you there as far as on 51 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: the nose, I'm getting a nice bit of oak, no alcohol, 52 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: ethanol at all, and. 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: Some vanilla and that's about it. Now. 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it's definitely sweet. It is a 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: caramel vanilla whet. It's a little it's a little sugary. 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: It is a little sugary on the nose. You can 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: apply that flavor, I think kind of anyway you would, 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: you would like it's it's nice there there. There's there's 59 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: no ethanol, no hard alcohol. Smell easy, easy, and. 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: A little warm, a little warm. Okay, that would be me. 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: But what do I know. I'm just a guy who's sniffing. Fingers, bloy, 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: are you ready for this? I'm just a guy for sniffing. 63 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: Is that what you said? Well, this could have been 64 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: what I said. 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I've been ready for this all day. 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: Fingers with Loy is going in doing what we call 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: the Kentucky chew, moving the juice around the palate, trying 68 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: to get a feeling a flavor for the flavors. Yeah, 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: I said that right. I'm a believer in the two 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: SIPs methodology. The first sip to set the taste buds 71 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: the second sip to really get an idea of the flavors. 72 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: The High West I first West, not high West, First 73 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: West Toasted Oak, Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey from fifteen stars 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: out of Bardstown, Kentucky. 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: What say you fingers, you're right, you're watering? Yeah, a 76 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: little bit, a little bit. Uh, there's vanilla, there's oak. 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: There's a little hint of Rye spice and a nice 78 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: little bit of chocolate on the finish, very nicely. 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 80 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: Uh. Now starting to get a nice little bit of 81 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: gentle warmth right around the region that Tony coined last 82 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 3: week that he likes to referred to as the tumb tumb. 83 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of warmth there. 84 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's very nice that that spice kit me. 85 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: And it was a surprise because you weren't expecting any Rye. No, no, 86 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't. And and I listen, I don't. I don't 87 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: have any proof that Rye is even in here, but. 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: It's listen, it's nice. I'm I'm I'm very happy with it. 89 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see what you think it is. 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: It is sweet, but I'll be interested to see if 91 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: it's it's too sweet. 92 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: For you. I'm going in. Okay, I'm gonna try it 93 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: for myself. 94 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: First West, the toasted oak right here, Kentucky straight bourbon 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: whiskey five six seven year blend of Bourbon's a tear 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: health to you, fingers more, he's. 97 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: Going in ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what we 98 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: like to call the Memphis munch, the Chattanooga chomp sagona swish. 99 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: Is he going in for seconds? Is two SIPs? I'm 100 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: living by it. Oh wow, he's going back in ladies 101 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: and gentlemen. He's say too sip tony. That's what he is. 102 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's what they called me in grade school. 103 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: Ah, okay, Spicier than I thought based on the nose, 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: not heavy spice. 105 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: Uh definitely excuse me on the uh. On the tongue. 106 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: There not as thick, not as rich as I thought. 107 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: It would be, played much thinner than that. That finish 108 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: is nice, now, okay, now that's where the oak is. 109 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: The oak was absolutely not there on on the pallette, 110 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: not at all I thought it. I thought it was 111 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: a little thin. 112 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: It was. It was pleasant. 113 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, oh, it's all in the finish, and 114 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: now it's creeping itself down and into the chest. 115 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Now it's happening in the finish. That's very good. 116 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: Are you getting chocolate on the finish too? Am I 117 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: talking you into chocolate on the finish? Are you insepting me? 118 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: What can I do to put you in chocolate in 119 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: the finish today? 120 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: Um? 121 00:06:54,040 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: No, Now I can't say that that I do. I 122 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: think that the finish is there. I think the finishes 123 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: is kind of lasting. It's still on the tongue. The 124 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: finish is very pleasant. 125 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: I was right about warm. I was right about warm. 126 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: It didn't hit that way. 127 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: It has become that way now I'm good. Sixty seconds 128 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: after the drink, Now it's a fully formed drink. Now 129 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: it's all there, and that's not That is fine that 130 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: I think for people who want a little more on 131 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: the palette, want a little more punch, a little more flavor, 132 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: a little more shape, there's gonna be a man. I 133 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: wish there was a little bit more there. It is 134 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: a little thin. But if you're willing to wait for 135 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: that finish, that is all right. The first West toasted 136 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: oak Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey fingers will wy Is this 137 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: in your liquor cabinet? Now, now here's where we go 138 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: from here. Is this in your liquor cabinet for an 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: MSRP of seventy dollars or for the on sale price 140 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: I got for it of fifty one. 141 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: I'll have to see what it's like with some water, 142 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: and it's seventy fifty one. 143 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think you have to be somebody who's 144 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: willing to let the bourbon wait to do the work. 145 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: And I if understanding people as as as I do, 146 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: as as people who are you know, amateurs like us 147 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: in engaging and trying things. We want that we want 148 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: to feel it right away, and if we don't, we 149 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: feel like something's missing, something's lost. I don't actually believe 150 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: that to be the case. It just is a little 151 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: thin on the palette for me. So I'm gonna know 152 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: it's seventy I'll try a little bit more at fifty 153 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: one dollars a bottle. This just in your stomach may explode. 154 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, happens to me three times a week. 155 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: We know, we know it's eatdrike, smoke, Come Tony Katz. 156 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: That is America. His favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy. 157 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: The New York Post is reporting that doctor's worn a 158 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 2: dangerous ingredient, and fancy cocktails can cause your stomach to explode. 159 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: And that's why Fingers stopped drinking fancy cocktails years ago. 160 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: Oh see, I thought you were gonna go with a 161 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: crystal pepsi joke. 162 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Semi style. 163 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: The story is is that if you've ever seen a 164 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: fancy drink, you know, yeah, you walked into the to 165 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 2: the to the saloon, and you said, barkeep, let's how 166 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: you do. 167 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: It, right, that's how you do it. Tell me how 168 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: you do it, barkeep. 169 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: That's what I thought, which is different than the ShopKeep 170 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: because that sounds like this ShopKeep, and and you get 171 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: a joke. 172 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: That you got it. 173 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: You got a drink, not a joke. I'm an idiot. 174 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: That looks like smoke or fog. It likely contains liquid nitrogen. 175 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: Nitrogen gas that's been super cooled into a liquid very cold. 176 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Has to be held in special containers because it boils 177 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: at room temperature. It can cause frostbite when in contact 178 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: with skin or the tissues, and if you were to 179 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: drink that regularly, you. 180 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Will immediately die. Hold on, wait that, our lawyer said, 181 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: we can't say that. 182 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: Some people think that it is super coold to put 183 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: liquid nitrogen into a beverage and watch the fog that 184 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: comes out of the drink. 185 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: So you could take a pick for your social media. 186 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: But not everyone is aware of the risks that come 187 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: with a drinking a drink made with liquid nitrogen. 188 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: It's a ticking time bomb. That also me that's not 189 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: in the article whatsoever. 190 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: I'm just glad you corrected yourself because I don't want 191 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: to get sued by big Liquid Nitrogen right because their 192 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: lawyers have deep, deep pockets. 193 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: And they'll put the freeze on you. 194 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: You're welcome, You've just been dead joked. 195 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: How many of these do you have to drink? 196 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: Because if you drink them, you'll have this this this 197 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 2: your belly and it'll move and it'll cause a distended 198 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: abdomen and that can crush other organs and can have 199 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: respiratory failures and internal bleeding. 200 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: And then the if that. 201 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: Stuff can freeze tissues and that exacerbates the damage and 202 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: then you'll get the gout. 203 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of this happening? 204 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: No? 205 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: And I wonder listen, you know you usually see these 206 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: cocktails in these fancy cocktail lounges, and when you're ordering 207 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: something like this. It usually costs somewhere in the neighborhood 208 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 3: of seventy four dollars, right, who is drinking one after another? 209 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: And the other thing too, is don't you think you 210 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: would think at some point after you have one, you'd 211 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: be like, Okay, that was that was nice, But I 212 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: think I'm going to try something else. 213 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Now. 214 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: Does the liquid nitrogen really up the flavor profile on 215 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: a drink where you're like, you know what, this would 216 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: have been good, but boy, they put that liquid nitrogen 217 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 3: in and now it's a festival of flavor. 218 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: I think that you are having trouble separating the moment 219 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: of enjoyment and the moment of enjoying being in the 220 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: lead a snomp. 221 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: I think that's your that's your issue. Fingers. 222 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: I'm just a simple blue collar Joe. 223 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: That's what I've always said about you. People ask me 224 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: what is Fingers, what I like? I'm like, Fingers is 225 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: just a simple blue collar Joe. 226 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 3: I tell you, I wear my hard hat and I 227 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: pack my lunch in a lunch pail and I take. 228 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: It to work. Have you ever used a lunch pail? 229 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it's that's like one of those metal things and 230 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: the top just opens like a clamshell, and it's got 231 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: your thermos on the top, and then it's got your 232 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: it's got your your, your cold cut, your loose meat 233 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: sandwich there on the bottom, maybe with a maybe with 234 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: a piece of fruit and a and a bag of 235 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: chips you put in a zip lock. 236 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: My god, it's like you're a blue collar joe. 237 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: Right. 238 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I did many, many, many moons ago. I now 239 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: I have a cooler. Oh, yes, so. 240 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: You pack the cooler if you're if you're doing blue 241 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: collar Joe things. 242 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: Yes, with the loose meat sandwich. 243 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Maybe. Do you know do you refer to as cold 244 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: cuts or lunch meat? Lunch meat? Yeah, you are going 245 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: to hell? What is a cold You call it cold cuts? 246 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: So you when you're making out, When Tony Katz decides 247 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 3: he's going to the local market to get his groceries, 248 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: and he pulls out his notebook because he likes to 249 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: write out a grocery list using uh calligraphy and parchment, 250 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 3: and he's got his number two pencil. 251 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: When you get to it there in the fresh fruit aisle, 252 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: and I say here, here. 253 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: Ye behold my list of appetizing delights. 254 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: And the people say, oh, Tony's back. 255 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: Stand back peasants for your lord has come to engage 256 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: some shopping. I say shopping, but then my grandmother allegedly 257 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: used to say marketing. She didn't go shopping, she went marketing. 258 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: That's a true story. She was very special, very special. 259 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 3: I just can't equate that little skit you did, following 260 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: that up with I need cold cuts. 261 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and here's the math. Okay, you grew up 262 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: with what you grew up with, like you mistaken. We 263 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: call soda pop, right. 264 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: It depends on who I'm with. 265 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, when I'm with Michigan people, I call it soda 266 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: to annoy them. And then when I'm around people who 267 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: I know call it soda, I call it pop. It's 268 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: a little game I like to play. People really enjoy it. 269 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: The whole term lunch meat I find gross. It's gross. 270 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: Why because does it sound so unappealing lunch meat? 271 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: Lunch meat as opposed to cold cuts. 272 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,239 Speaker 2: Man have found dead in this apartment after being assaulted 273 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: with lunch meat. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, you 274 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: would think cold cuts would be more deadly. No, lunch 275 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: meat is It's just it sounds so unappetizing. 276 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: Do you think this is a regional thing. Yeah. I 277 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: mean growing up in Jersey it was cold cuts. Huh. 278 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: It's it's like, uh sub or hogy. That's a sub. Yeah. 279 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: I think it's a sub too, But US people down 280 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: in Philly they'll tell you it's a hogy and then 281 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: and then uh, there's the grinder, not the website. 282 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: There's say for the clarification. I needed to do that 283 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: for for for for the stations and for people who 284 00:15:53,840 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: have a smartphone near them. M there's a oh my god, 285 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: there cannot. I can't. I don't think I can do 286 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: the routine. I can't. I can't do it on air. 287 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: You can't. Homes yes, count I named. 288 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: Pete Holmes, who it is stand up for, starts yelling 289 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: about needing a sexual aid. He needs this sexual aid, 290 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: and he keeps saying the term I need a and 291 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: he would discuss how long it is sexual aid, and 292 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: he keeps saying he said it like fifteen times. And 293 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: he would then say, enjoy your searches, everybody, enjoy opening 294 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: up Facebook, because you know, you people, you talk about something, 295 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: the next thing you know there it is as an 296 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: ad for you. So he I mean, that's just very funny, 297 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: very very witty and and and and bright. 298 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: But no, a lunch meat is gross? Where were we? Oh? Yeah, 299 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: your stomach will explode. 300 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: Not because of lunch meat. There's no liquid nitrogen in 301 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: lunch meat that I know of, or cold cut anymore, 302 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: maybe cold cuts not. 303 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: Since the Great uh lunch meat Disaster of eight. Doesn't 304 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: lunch meat sound gross? 305 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 3: Though I never thought of it that way. I'm still 306 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: gonna call it lunch meat. 307 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: But you do call it a sub, even though you're 308 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: from Michigan. 309 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: You call it a sub up there, I would not 310 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: too much HOGI talk up there? 311 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: Can I tell you I'll get it to it later. 312 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: Eat, drink, smoke. It is your cigar bourbon FOODI extravaganza. 313 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Kats. That's fingers fan. 314 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: While you find everything we do at etrinksmokeshow dot com. 315 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: We are smoking from room one oh one. 316 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: It is the Connecticut supertro six by fifty six. Now 317 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: it's spelled farcee. I thought it was farse. Finger said, 318 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: what if it's far che And I like, I don't 319 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: know how it's pronounced. 320 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 1: Actually I was half joking, But now it's all it's 321 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: all I can think about. 322 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: It's all I can think about so uh uh, Matt 323 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: booth and room one on one? How is it properly pronounced? 324 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: It is a really interesting connecticut here. Now I've had 325 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: a couple of issues with it, but we also set 326 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: it down. We're doing other things in the show, talking 327 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: a lot, so sometimes that happens. Also could be a 328 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: humid or issue that I'm having. But it's in the 329 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: main smoking, very lovely. It has very much smoothed out 330 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: from a lot of that cocoa bittersweet kind of little 331 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: coffee big wood spice that I got at the first 332 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: that was a little too much. It's now settled into 333 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: a nice, easy connecticut. But I would not call it creamy, 334 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: and I think it's got a little more punched to it. 335 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: So this is definitely playing in the medium. But it 336 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: doesn't have, you know, a nuttiness, a nutty cream to it. 337 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 2: It doesn't have a vanilla to it. It doesn't have 338 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: that kind of softness. It's fine, it's not overpowering. Now 339 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of richness to it, but I'm 340 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: not sure what exactly that flavor is. So at twelve 341 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: dollars and fifty cents of stick, it is nice, but 342 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. Compared to other room one on one 343 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: products that I've had, I think I'm in. I'm up 344 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: for those things more than this, but it also could 345 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: just be me, which is why I always suggest smoking 346 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: it again, right, different things you ate, you drank, Whether 347 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: all those things affecting palate could really affect the whole 348 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: flavor profile. 349 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: At the beginning of the show, you mentioned you thought 350 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: it was smoking like a medium. 351 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: Yes, have you changed your mind on it? I'm still there. 352 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: I'm still there at the medium. 353 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: I'm still I was at mild, and now I'm starting 354 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: to go into more of the medium camp as I'm 355 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: getting into the final third. For me, you know, I 356 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: had that those cedar notes, you know, going back for 357 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: between cedar and hay. There's a little bit of a 358 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: creamy sweetness to it that's gone away, and now a 359 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: good bit of spice is picked up as I've gotten 360 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 3: into the final third. And I'm still a yes on 361 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: this because you know, it's it's something different that normally 362 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 3: isn't in my humidor, but something that at that price 363 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: point twelve dollars twelve to fifty a stick, and we're 364 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: gonna you know, we've been smoking this for a while. 365 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: I think it's a yes for me, but we both 366 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: had issues with it. Yeah, it could totally be just 367 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: this particular stick, and you know that it was, you know, 368 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: a tough, really hard to draw. 369 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 1: You know. 370 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: I will say I thought I was gonna have more 371 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: issues with it. I've had less issues than I thought. 372 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's the stick or my 373 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: human orth this stitch. Yeah, it's just been a tight 374 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: draw for me. And I've done the old pinchion roll 375 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: and it's gotten better now that I'm in the final third. 376 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: But at this point I lean yes. And we are 377 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: drinking from fifteen stars. The first West Toasted Oak Kentucky 378 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: straight bourbon whiskey. I thought this was thin, had a nice, nice, 379 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: appealing sweet nose. I thought this was thin on the pallet, 380 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: but the finish really came out with the oak, a 381 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: little bit of that spice. You asked, do I get chocolate? 382 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: I did not, And I thought that that finish lasted. 383 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: I thought that finish was outrageously pleasant. My question was 384 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: would people be willing to forego the lack of palate 385 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 2: to get to the finish? 386 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: And I think people want both, but I could be wrong. 387 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: You got different flavors out of this. 388 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: I got vanilla, the oak, and that spice really hits you. 389 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: And then on the on the finish, I got some chocolate. 390 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: It wasn't so delayed my satisfaction with this as it 391 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 3: was for you. But I will say, seventy dollars for 392 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: me is a no. Fifty I would I would think 393 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: about it, and I would definitely recommend it at your 394 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: favorite cigar lounge, especially a cigar lounge, to try a 395 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: poor and see what you think. 396 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: So I added a cube. You can hear it. It's 397 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: kind of melted in there. 398 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: So ice or water will bring down proof. Right, this 399 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: is ninety eight proof. It'll bring down proof, the only 400 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: thing you can bring down proof. And it will change complexion. 401 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: Some things we will pronounced some things more muted fingers 402 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: added a little bit of water to his spicier, spicier 403 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: in the palate, spicier in the finish, still getting the oak. 404 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: This is msrping seventy dollars. I found it on sale 405 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: for fifty one. I think I liked it better neat 406 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: than with the cube, and I just don't think this 407 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: matches my overall flavor profile. I think that The missing 408 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: of the palate for me is more than I want. 409 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: If I had oak on the pallet, I had a 410 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: real rich oak going going in, I think i'd feel 411 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: differently because it is nice. 412 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: It is nice. 413 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: I just it's it's big. It's big on spice, and 414 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: right now with the cube, it's really staying there in 415 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: the chest. Now it's hit the chest. 416 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: But you had a little bit of water, what's a 417 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: I would agree with you on it being thin because 418 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: there's no real coating that lingers on your on your tongue, 419 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: and that spice does hit you a little bit more 420 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: with a little bit of water in it. I'm still 421 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: getting oak and a little bit of chocolate on the 422 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: finish listen. For me, this is all about value and 423 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: you start talking seventy dollars a bottle, I can think 424 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 3: of bourbon that I like that I could buy two 425 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: bottles for at that price. I would definitely if I 426 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 3: were out on the town and I saw this at 427 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 3: a lounge, I would get a poor Yeah, it's I 428 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: like it. I just don't know at that price point. 429 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: If it's something that I could say it would be 430 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: in my liquor cabinet. It's time fingers Boy for News 431 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: of the week. So, Tony, we have mentioned Kroger grocery 432 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: stores from time to time on this show for you know, 433 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: reasons that I don't really want to get in because 434 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: I want to actually be positive about Kroger. 435 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: They're trying to sell your cell phone service. 436 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: Yes, yeh, And it's happened quite a bit and it's 437 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: very annoying, and so I don't want to come across 438 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: as totally anti Kroger. Kroger is a very popular grocery 439 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: store chain in the Midwest and in the South. They 440 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 3: are rolling out Tony AI powered shopping carts. 441 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: This is very exciting. 442 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: They piloted this shopping cart program in Ohio, Texas, and Arizona. 443 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: You will be able with the AI powered touchscreen to 444 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: navigate store aisles and scan items and track what you're spending, 445 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: and even pay for your groceries right there at the 446 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: old grocery cart. 447 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't care. We're just trying to Are you telling 448 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: me that it's such a hassle? You know what? Okay? 449 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: You in fine. 450 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to anybody. I don't want 451 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: to connect with anybody. Just put everything in the cart. 452 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: Tell me what I, Oh, why not just put the 453 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: chip right in my wrist and decide whether or not 454 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: I'm eating too many calories by what I'm buying. 455 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 456 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: And and that's enough, because that's where we're going. That's 457 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: where we're going. 458 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: You took that to a really dark place. It is 459 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: the dark place I went from. Oh wouldn't it be 460 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: nice to be able to just have grocery bags on 461 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: you and scan the scan the item and put it 462 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: right in the bag and just walk out with the cart. 463 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: And you've got us with computer chips in our wrists 464 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: based on this. 465 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh absolutely absolutely. 466 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: What is it that that was in the Terminator movies whatever, 467 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: the sky Net or whatever, whatever, whatever it is that's 468 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: coming to be our overlord. 469 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: This is one step closer. It is, it is what 470 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: it is, what it is. We are. 471 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: We are just waiting to be run by the machines 472 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: and people who can't just get online and check out. 473 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: I we already have the Instacart where the food gets 474 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: dropped off. 475 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: At your home. 476 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 2: Now we need the AI to know what we're buying 477 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: so it can give us recipes. It could suggest No, 478 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna suggest calorie counts. It's gonna suggest you're eating 479 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: too much of this and your doctor doesn't like it, 480 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: and then it's going to cross reference your medical records 481 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, you're not allowed to 482 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: buy that cake for dessert because you've already had your allotments. 483 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: We are all going to be slaves. Slaves, I say. 484 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 3: Thank you Kroger for making my shopping experience a little 485 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: bit easier. 486 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: And stop trying to sell me cell phone service. You 487 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: have freaks. 488 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's that is. 489 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: Every time Fingers walks in and someone's like, hey, i'd 490 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: your cell phone service, such a cell phone service, and 491 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: they open up their trench coat. 492 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: I want to check out some cell phone service. Eh. Eh. 493 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: The other day it was a satellite dish. 494 00:26:59,720 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: No. 495 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: Oh, well, I didn't think it was nineteen ninety three. 496 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: Being the Hoosiers that we are, of course, it was 497 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: all eyes on IU defeating Miami winning the national championship 498 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty one, being sixteen and oh and 499 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: this is the turnaround story. Of turnaround stories, I want 500 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: to make sure I'm clear. There is no bigger turnaround 501 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: story in sports. This is it. What Kurt Signetti, coach 502 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: of the IU Hoosiers did with this football team did 503 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: with the city of Bloomington. It's Indiana University, and sometimes 504 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: people do call it University of Indiana. And then again 505 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 2: some people refer to the people who live here as 506 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: Indiana's and that's just sad. It's so set. It's Hoosiers people. 507 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: You can't help but celebrates, eat, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz. 508 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: That's America's favorite amateur drinker fingers bill boy. Oh, I 509 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: would have gotten so many emails if I didn't self 510 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: correct right there. It was the flow, the flow, I know, 511 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: I know, I know, but incredible, incredible, incredible victory, incredible season. 512 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: And there's talks, of course, as there always is, of hey, 513 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 2: how do we do this college playoff? And it was 514 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: was it really done right? And who got left out? 515 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: Notre Dame wasn't in the college playoff and they bout 516 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: out of bowl games like we're not interested? Thanks but no, thanks, 517 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: gotta go. So the there's tremendous money here, there's tremendous 518 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: opportunity here. 519 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: Do you think they do the college playoff? 520 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: Right? 521 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: No? How should they do? I don't know one thing? 522 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: They need to not have these smaller non Power five conference. 523 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: So no, jmus Now, I mean when you know that, Okay, 524 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: we're basically you want to be able to reward a 525 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: team for having a great season. But everybody knows that 526 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: they aren't going to win the national championship and they're 527 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: probably going to get blown out the first game that 528 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: they play. So what are we doing here? Why are 529 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: we having these teams in the tournament? 530 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 2: Everybody who is a potential competitor should be a real 531 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: potential competitor. 532 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, not a participation trophy. 533 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: I can appreciate that. 534 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: I don't think those teams would appreciate you saying that 535 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: about them, but I appreciate the math. 536 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that means expanded or what 537 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: have you. 538 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: In the NFL, there's a story from NBC Sports where 539 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: Robert Kraft, who's the owner of the Patriots, says, I 540 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: want to tell you guys that we're going to push 541 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: like the Dickens now to make international games more important 542 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: with us. Every team will go to eighteen regular season games, 543 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: two preseason games, eliminate one of the preseason games, and 544 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: every team every year will play one game overseas. 545 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: Oh now, this of course is making the NFL an 546 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: international brand. This is about the money. 547 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: They've seen the results in in London and in were 548 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: they Madrid, they're Germany, right, Mexico City, they've played, so 549 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: they see this, they see the dollar signs. 550 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: Do the players want this? 551 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: Eighteen games two preseason, which is really not much of 552 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: a workout at all, by the way, and you're expected 553 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: to win all eighteen. It's an expectation that I don't 554 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: know is rational. They want the money, but they don't 555 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: want that schedule. 556 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: It's so unreasonable to expect some of these teams, especially 557 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: the real thing that really needs to be investigated when 558 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: it comes to the NFL and injuries, are these short 559 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: turnarounds to Thursday night football the NFL, and I can 560 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: understand why they're coming at it from this perspective. If 561 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: you look at the highest rated television shows, you know, 562 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: Top twenty, just single air, it's always games dominate and 563 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if it's a really bad NFL game 564 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: on Thursday night, people are going to tune in and watch. 565 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 3: The problem is the players have such a short turnaround, 566 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: so they played on Sunday and now they're playing on Thursday. Yes, 567 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: the Lions, I'll give you give an example. They played 568 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: on the playoffs. They did not make it this year, 569 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 3: but that's okay. But the Bears did, Yes, they did. 570 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: Congratulations to Ben Johnson and the Chicago Bears and the 571 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers were in the playoffs. 572 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: Good for them. We'll see if they're all there next year. 573 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: That's all. I like it. I like the I like 574 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: the pro action there. 575 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: But the Lions played one extra preseason game because they 576 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: played in the Hall of Fame game, and then they 577 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: played on Thanksgiving and they played on Christmas. It's it's 578 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: really getting to the point where they are asking I 579 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: believe too much from these guys. You know, they're talking 580 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: about this eighteenth game regular season with all the injuries, 581 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: a lot of soft tissue stuff. 582 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: You know, I look. 583 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: With George Kittle from San Francisco blew out his achilles. 584 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: I think of you know, several NFL players that blew 585 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: out achilles this year. Adding the eighteenth game, It's going 586 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: to be interesting how they go about doing it, because 587 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: are they going to introduce a second bye week for 588 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: these players and be like, Okay, this is the this 589 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 3: is the thing that we will concede. We'll give you 590 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: a second bye now. 591 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: It's a nineteen week see, no way, it's a twenty 592 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 1: week season. 593 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: Yes, So basically they'll be playing NFL football into March. 594 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: Twenty week season that is five months. 595 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: Now, you've got two preseason games, then you've got playoffs. 596 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: I was exaggerating, but. 597 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: No, but you'll be starting in early August and you 598 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: would be playing through February. 599 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 3: Pretty close to it, pretty close to the end of February. Yeah, 600 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: but you know, Robert Kraft brings up. Listen, the salary 601 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: cap keeps going up, up, up up. You know, we 602 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: need more revenue. You know, these streaming services, all of 603 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 3: them are begging for more NFL football. So now you're 604 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: in a situation where you're trying to make those entities 605 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 3: happy and in the consumer of course, sits back and 606 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: they feel like they're being taken advantage of between having 607 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: one home game possibly taken away from you to let 608 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: your team play in London or Berlin. To okay, you 609 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: want to see your team, you have to have cable 610 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: and five different streaming services. It's getting outrageous, doesn't the 611 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: team not playing eight well, it'll be more than eight 612 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: home games. 613 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: Now I'm taking the autritional sixteen week season the old school. 614 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: So doesn't this take away from the idea of not 615 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: just a season ticket holders? 616 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: But why would I build you. 617 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: A stadium when you're going to be playing so many 618 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: of your games not in the stadium? 619 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: Why am I? 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