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Speaker 1: I cannot believe this WNBA commissioner actually said this about

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Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark. I mean, they have just so remember when

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark got drafted, got drafted by the Fever. I said, look, realistically,

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Speaker 1: you have a three you have a three to five

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Speaker 1: year window for this thing to work. Because if you

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Speaker 1: look at the history of niche sports and the height

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Speaker 1: of their popularity, whether it's boxing with Mike Tyson, the

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Speaker 1: professional hockey, when Wayne Gretzky came to North America and

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Speaker 1: played for the Los Angeles Kings Tiger Woods, although his

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Speaker 1: was a little bit more prolonged, just because golf had

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Speaker 1: more of a mainstream history than the other sports. But

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Speaker 1: if you look at pele with soccer, there is a

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Speaker 1: it's just human instinct. Right, there's this new thing, it's

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Speaker 1: super interesting. There's this individual who just excels at it, right,

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Speaker 1: electrifize people. People haven't been paying attention to it before,

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Speaker 1: so it's this new, shiny object and they pay attention.

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Speaker 2: To it for a while.

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Speaker 1: I mean the case of hockey, it became so popular

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Speaker 1: they made the Mighty Ducks franchise out of it, and

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Speaker 1: you know, hockey's reverted back and as is boxing and

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Speaker 1: and and golf, and people just they go back to

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Speaker 1: what they know, they move on from something. I've seen it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't grow up with this. It's not

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Speaker 1: ingrained in me. And so I said, realistically, you look

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Speaker 1: at the recording of sports history. The WNBA had about

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Speaker 1: three to five years to capitalize on the Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: phenomenon to try to grow or at least make some level.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at these look at golf.

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Speaker 1: While there are not as many people watching at the

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Speaker 1: time of Tiger, they have made it a profit monster.

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Speaker 1: They have the corporations and everything they.

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Speaker 2: Got into it.

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Speaker 1: So they capitalized from a money perspective on the game

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Speaker 1: of golf, on the Tiger popularity. So while if you're

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Speaker 1: the WNBA, even if the popularity wanes, get your sponsorship deals,

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Speaker 1: you get all your things in place, make your money

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Speaker 1: off of this Sitcher merch and they have blown this

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Speaker 1: thing at every possible corner.

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Speaker 2: Casey Well, by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, the fever loss last night one O seven to

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Speaker 3: ninety eight. But here's what happened in Minnesota. Links player.

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Speaker 3: She's also the vice president of the WNBA Player Association.

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Speaker 3: She's being critical of the commissioner of the WNBA and

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Speaker 3: this player. She called Engelbert the worst leadership in the world,

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Speaker 3: that is.

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Speaker 1: The commissioner of the wb comissioner of the WBA, Albert,

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Speaker 1: because she came out and basically insinuated that Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: is making sixteen million dollars on sponsorship deals and she's

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Speaker 1: lucky she has the WNBA because she wouldn't be making

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Speaker 1: the money without the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, Caitlyn should be grateful she makes sixteen

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Speaker 3: million off the court. Without the WNBA platform, she wouldn't

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Speaker 3: make anything.

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Speaker 1: Which is utterly ridiculous given that it is an ice

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Speaker 1: cube that has three the three on three league or

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Speaker 1: whatever that is that he tried to get her to

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Speaker 1: go to and they offered her a gajillion dollars to

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Speaker 1: go play in that thing. And so at every turn,

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Speaker 1: whether it's jealousy from the players or just disdain apparently

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Speaker 1: from the management of the league, they have totally batched

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Speaker 1: the Caitlin Clark experiment. And now the major problem they've got, Like,

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Speaker 1: I know that there was some local news coverage of

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Speaker 1: the Fever playing, but did you see any headlines any

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Speaker 1: like front page.

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Speaker 2: News Fever in go to Game five.

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Speaker 1: I mean I got mentioned, but regular season games with

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark were infinitely more publicized.

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Speaker 3: Caitlan Clark was out than their playoff.

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Speaker 1: Games, like they were one step away from the finals, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and you didn't hear boo about it because nobody gives

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Speaker 1: a damn about this league. They care about her, and

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Speaker 1: instead of using her and just lifting her up and saying,

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Speaker 1: sweet mama, Caitlin, make us every single ounce of revenue

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Speaker 1: you possibly can so we can all benefit years to come,

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Speaker 1: they have totally alienated.

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Speaker 2: And ostracized her.

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Speaker 1: And now that she's been hurt, it's been out of sight,

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Speaker 1: out of mine, and like my favorite thing is they're going, well,

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Speaker 1: look at we still have more people that are viewing

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Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, because there were nine.

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Speaker 3: Anything is improvement, right the bar the bar was pretty

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Speaker 2: You have people because they were watching the maruh are like, hey,

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Speaker 2: this is kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: Which is the natural, Like I said, it's the natural

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Speaker 1: trend of niche sports that get incredible players. Now, usually

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Speaker 1: the incredible player is drives that this has just been

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Speaker 1: and I don't mean this in a negative context, but

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Speaker 1: hangers on. Right, the people who went they saw it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is interesting. I'm into this da da da da,

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Speaker 1: and that will happen for a while, but it's not

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Speaker 1: near where it should be because the sport itself. Just

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Speaker 1: like people after Mike Tyson went to prison weren't like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get every fight.

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Speaker 2: Because boxing is awesome.

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Speaker 1: No, they watched the fight because they wanted to watch

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Speaker 1: Mike Tyson parts like kill some guy.

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Speaker 3: Right, because of the one athlete. You know, I look

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Speaker 3: at my husband as a great example. He's he loves

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Speaker 3: all sports and he was so into the WNBA and

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Speaker 3: it was all we would.

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Speaker 2: Hear about Kaitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 3: This Caitlin Clark that he didn't even mention it last night.

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Speaker 1: No, nobody was watching it. I mean like we went

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Speaker 1: Saturday for Sunday. Was there a there was a fever

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday? Because uh, my good friend Ben Verbanic,

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful man on all of Tarot Television and

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Speaker 1: indie reporter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've had some dinner and dancing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we went out and there was a home game, right,

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Speaker 1: and we saw people with it on. No, it's like

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Speaker 1: it was over, Like we saw the people filing out

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Speaker 1: or they were filing out when we got there, But

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Speaker 1: there was no like a throng of people or media

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Speaker 1: coverage or it's like, hey, we're shutting the city down,

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Speaker 1: or like normally that happens was some sort of big,

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Speaker 1: you know, marquee sporting event where you can't even maneuver,

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Speaker 1: you know. None of that was like we forgot that.

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Speaker 1: It was like, oh yeah, there was a game today.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, So the the Minnesota Lynx player, she

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Speaker 3: was saying that the commissioner said, this is from the

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Speaker 3: commissioner that the players should be on their knees thanking

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Speaker 3: me for securing the WNBA's media right steal. Actually the

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Speaker 3: commissioners should be on her niece, thinking Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, and they capitalized to some extent in the

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Speaker 1: terms of the WNBA is a dumpster fire league. It's

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Speaker 1: a charity case. It's always been a charity case for

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Speaker 1: twenty five years. It's been political correctness that has allowed

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Speaker 1: it to continue because it never would have made it

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Speaker 1: on its own without rich Oftentimes NBA team owners just

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Speaker 1: floating it out of tax right offs or you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: They have a level of stuff with their money. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand, but it's not been a money maker, and

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Speaker 1: once you remove her from the equation her being Katelyn Clark,

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Speaker 1: it won't be a money maker, and you will go

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Speaker 1: back to three hundred very hardcore fans in these arenas.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to disparage the league. It's just

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Speaker 1: the history of sport that once the person and her

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Speaker 1: her being injured has been a huge detriment because unlike

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Speaker 1: a Tyson or a Gretzky, or a Pele or a tiger,

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Speaker 1: they had a window where they were at the tippy

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Speaker 1: top of their game and every time you turn that

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Speaker 1: TV on, there they were doing their thing. You haven't

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Speaker 1: even been able to see her for the past half

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Speaker 1: a season, right, And it gets it even more outside

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Speaker 1: of it because at least if she was playing, you'd say, hey,

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Speaker 1: they lost that game five, but hey in a few

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Speaker 1: months they're gonna be back, and we can't. You haven't

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Speaker 1: even seen her in months, So talk about just handling

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Speaker 1: something as wrong as you possibly can. They'll write books

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Speaker 1: about this over time, because wow,