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Speaker 1: I will begin by saying what I have been saying

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Speaker 1: I don't know that you get expansion of the Convention

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Speaker 1: joining me now on the program he is the president

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Speaker 1: of basketball Operations for the Indiana Pacers. Kevin Pritchard joining us,

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Speaker 1: Kevin on what I know is again a sad day,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time a celebratory day. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time in being able to reflect on Nancy Leonard.

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Speaker 2: Well glad to be on Jake, and congratulations to you

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Speaker 2: and your success. And you know, coming from Indianapolis and

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Speaker 2: growing up in Lawrence and Noblesville, I remember going to

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Speaker 2: Nancy and Slick at that time, and they were just

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Speaker 2: they were bigger than life. And you know, if you

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Speaker 2: And you know, throughout my tenure, I've been very blessed

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm getting a little sad talking about it

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Speaker 2: because it's such a blow to not just the Pacers organization,

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Speaker 2: can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Sorry about that, Go ahead, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: She just she just was a pillar of this community.

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Speaker 2: And the one thing you knew about Nancy is there's

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Speaker 2: nothing more. And she didn't have any more pride than

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Speaker 2: the Pacers, and it was because she was the original.

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Speaker 2: She was the o g general manager and you know,

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Speaker 2: And uh, it's a really, really sad day. I'm proud

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Speaker 1: You know, Kevin, I was thinking about this in life

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Speaker 1: professional basketball in the Indiana Pacers and Nancy Leonard being

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Speaker 1: saying thank you, job well done. What does it mean

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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this that I do remember

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Speaker 2: sure you could measure that. That's immeasurable in terms of

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Speaker 1: Family, Kevin. When you look back, Kevin Pritchard is our

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Speaker 1: Again, had you not grown up here, Kevin and been

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Speaker 2: No, I think you know, any any official events, whether

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Speaker 2: I remember specifically the telethon, and you know, I was

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Speaker 1: You know, Chris texted in a listener Kevin and pointed

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Speaker 1: this out. I thought it was a fabulous idea. If

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Speaker 1: Nancy Leonard's name goes up in the rafters, which you know, Tyre's.

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Speaker 1: but in terms of those decisions. But each person that's

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Speaker 1: there's a number attached to them in some way, and

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Speaker 1: Slicks case, it's the number of career wins. I think

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Speaker 1: it should say Nancy Leonard eighty twenty eight because that's

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Speaker 1: the number of season tickets that were needed from the telethon,

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Speaker 1: and that's the number. She was so joyous in being

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Speaker 2: I completely agree thumbs up, And I wasn't aware of

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Speaker 2: And like you said earlier heard in the segment, you know,

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Speaker 2: and then you know it just it's snowballed into this

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Speaker 2: And you think about that, that doesn't happen if the

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Speaker 2: and again how that transcended into other things, There'd be

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Speaker 2: was a snowball effect, and I think it still grows.

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Speaker 2: And for me, as a steward of a team in

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Speaker 2: So I hope in some way that we can be

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Speaker 1: Lastly, Kevin, when it comes to Nancy Leonard, I'm curious

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Speaker 1: of this when you come in and you know you're

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Speaker 1: at the games that was one of the original, the

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Speaker 1: Did she carry with her a confidence or exude any

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's a difficult question because she had

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Speaker 2: an amazing elegance. I just I just think that the

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Speaker 2: in the same sentence. It's attached and it's it's meaningful.

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Speaker 2: But when when when I would hug her, it wasn't like, oh, hi,

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Speaker 2: you know, a little side hugged. When you hugged Flick

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Speaker 2: and Nancy, it was an embrace and it was meaningful.

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Speaker 2: And they just had a way of touching everybody, you know,

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Speaker 2: like again calling me Kevy, and you know they did

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Speaker 2: that with a lot of people. But for some reason,

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Speaker 2: it just made you feel like you were home. And

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Speaker 2: that's irreplaceable. You don't feel the fill those shoes.

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Speaker 1: Ever, Kevin. Obviously you know on this program the season

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Speaker 1: is getting ready to get underway. There was a transaction

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Speaker 1: that took place yesterday that was announced in adding a

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Speaker 1: point guard in Monti Morris. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: things in that aspect. I could ask you about it.

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Speaker 1: Probably in the eyes of many would be remissive me

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Speaker 1: to not do so. However, when I asked you to

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Speaker 1: of being able to talk about and reflect upon and

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Speaker 1: celebrate the life of Nancy Leonard, and I think in

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Speaker 1: the integrity of that, I keep it to that, and

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Speaker 1: certainly would welcome it back on another time from a

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Speaker 2: Yep, glad to do it and keep up the great work.

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Speaker 1: Jay, appreciate it. Kevin Pritcher joining us, the president of

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Speaker 1: basketball Operations for the Indiana Pacers, as we celebrate today

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Speaker 1: the life of Nancy Leonard at the age of ninety

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Speaker 1: three years old.