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Speaker 2: No, But now I'm thinking back on that interaction quite differently.

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Speaker 2: The thing it's like right where the that's like right

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Speaker 1: No, yes, the road locker room. So that that there's

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why the securities are to make sure that

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this Tony. Last night. You

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Speaker 1: what was your first off, I guess, knee jerk takeaway

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did like every little thing back, right if

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Speaker 2: if you're a really banged up Pacers team, like that's

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Speaker 2: you told anybody that before the game, Like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And that's players that some have some haven't made shots

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Speaker 1: Okay, Tony. We might have discussed this, but I just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know I keep like that's gonna make

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Speaker 2: And like once you you know, father times, undefeated uns,

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Speaker 2: obvious sign that the Pacers are obviously trying to win, right,

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Speaker 2: and everybody knows why. Right now they're so hurt. Now

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Speaker 2: they closed with him, right, they should have closed with him.

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Speaker 2: He was giving them the most offense. So it's kind

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Speaker 2: Sam with Shepherd last night, it really pops. It really

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Speaker 1: Tony East is our guest. By the way, Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 2: Think it really really excited to be here. Didn't know

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Speaker 2: be on a contender with a great secondary.

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Speaker 1: So pretty close SETI pretty close. Yeah, but there are

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Speaker 1: a couple of nuggets in there that were awfully saucy.

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Speaker 1: Right ooh m Tony. The Isaiah Jackson. I promise we're

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Speaker 1: not going to do this every single game, but he

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Speaker 1: it was there. Will the real Isaiah Jackson please stand up?

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Speaker 1: Over the totality of the season, you would anticipate it

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Speaker 2: The Bucks game was certainly like his absolute apex. Right,

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Speaker 1: Two were drafted by the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, appreciate the time as always, man.

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Speaker 1: That's right, saus Gardner. We will hear from him. The

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm just getting I'm hopping on the radio and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you getting?

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Speaker 3: something that just happened Monday and Tuesday. This is something

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Speaker 3: the Colts were looking at for weeks and weeks. They

433
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Speaker 3: knew where they wanted to attack. They knew they wanted

434
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Speaker 3: to get better than the secondary. And I think when

435
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Speaker 3: Carly looks at her team, she likes the pieces. They

436
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Speaker 3: like Daniel Jones, even despite the dud that was Sunday

437
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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, and they feel like they you know, if

438
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Speaker 3: you look at the NFL right now, especially the AFC,

439
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 3: all the contenders are flawed, like the doors wide open,

440
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Speaker 3: and the Colts making a playoff run as crazy as

441
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Speaker 3: it sounds, on November fifth or sixth, like I could

442
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Speaker 3: see it. I could see this team doing it the

443
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Speaker 3: way the offense has played for the most part.

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Speaker 1: Well, you go back to, for example, you know Hunter,

445
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Speaker 1: who is now in Houston as a defensive end. Okay,

446
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Speaker 1: so if that's the one and I think that Ballard,

447
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Speaker 1: tell me if you agree with this, Zach, he still

448
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Speaker 1: was trying to get even though the Yatu Latu is

449
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Speaker 1: starting to show a little bit of life here. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we know DeForest Buckner is a good player,

451
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Speaker 1: and I think you and I would agree Quitty pay

452
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Speaker 1: He's a guy he's okay, he's you know, he's a guy, right.

453
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Speaker 1: But I think that my assessment would be that Ballard

454
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Speaker 1: was still trying to find that Danil Hunter out there

455
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Speaker 1: or somebody he could get to make a splash online,

456
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Speaker 1: but once he knew he couldn't, or they're just you know,

457
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Speaker 1: each rock that he turned didn't have anything underneath it.

458
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Speaker 1: Then he said, you know what, I can get plays

459
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Speaker 1: out of Leatu Latu for example, that are covered sacks

460
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Speaker 1: if I can lock down the other side and just

461
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Speaker 1: make it so that quarterbacks are statues. You agree with

462
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Speaker 1: that thought process or the timeline of how that took place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. That's probably exactly what happened.

464
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Speaker 3: And the reality is and every fan out there knows this.

465
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Speaker 3: I mean, Chris Ballard lives for the defensive line like

466
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Speaker 3: it's this family. Like he is obsessed with the sensive line.

467
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Speaker 3: He wants eight or nine really good guys, and he's

468
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Speaker 3: invested in that position so much over the years. Now

469
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Speaker 3: he hits a lot of times. He's had a couple

470
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Speaker 3: of misses. But you're talking first round picks in law

471
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Speaker 3: Too and Creep Bay get round picks in DIO. First

472
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Speaker 3: round picks in Buckner in the trade that they sent him,

473
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Speaker 3: you know, to get San Francisco's pick, you know. So

474
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Speaker 3: it's like he just keeps pouring into that position, waiting

475
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Speaker 3: for the returns. Right, and and this is part of

476
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Speaker 3: about DNA, Right, He's going to go all in on

477
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Speaker 3: the line because he thinks that wins in January and

478
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Speaker 3: February and probably late December two. Now the Colts have

479
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Speaker 3: not done that. They've not done that since. But you know,

480
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Speaker 3: the first real success he had in Indie was remaking

481
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Speaker 3: the offensive line that first year they made that divisional

482
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Speaker 3: playoff run with Andrew Luck at a quarterback. So he's

483
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Speaker 3: going to keep pouring into that. Those guys are tough

484
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Speaker 3: to find. Latto's coming on, But like you said, it

485
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Speaker 3: makes perfect sense. If you're not going to get one

486
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Speaker 3: of those guys, how do you got how do you

487
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Speaker 3: make those guys better? Right? You you find a lockdown

488
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Speaker 3: corner who can play on an island, who can get

489
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Speaker 3: you into more man coverage, who can make the quarterback

490
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Speaker 3: hold on to it a little bit longer. And then

491
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Speaker 3: you got a guy like Quity Pay who can get home.

492
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Speaker 3: Lat too can get home. Buckner's playing tremendous. So they

493
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Speaker 3: got a bunch of guys. And this is him investing

494
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Speaker 3: in his favorite position, right defensive line, by going out

495
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Speaker 3: and getting a great corner.

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Speaker 1: Zach, who would you say are the Colts five best defenders?

497
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Speaker 1: The five best players on the Colts defense if you

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Speaker 1: were to ask Chris Ballard if they had I'll put

499
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Speaker 1: it to you this way. If the NFL tomorrow decides

500
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Speaker 1: to have a new they're gonna put a team in Austin, Texas,

501
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Speaker 1: and there's gonna be an expansion draft, and they tell

502
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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts we're doing it unusual this year. You

503
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Speaker 1: cannot protect any players. Every player on your roster is

504
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Speaker 1: open season. What are the five players on defense that

505
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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard would be most worried are going to be

506
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Speaker 1: plucked away because they're the five best defenders the Colts have.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to start with Buckner, he's been playing great.

508
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Kenny Moore right behind him because

509
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Speaker 3: he's so versatile. Okay, I tempted to throw Grover Stewart

510
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Speaker 3: in there because he just bottles so much up right now.

511
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Speaker 3: The other guy is Ward, who's not playing right now? Right,

512
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Speaker 3: I mean come on, it's like a freak injury in

513
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Speaker 3: a warm up. I mean, Gardner's on there. Gardener's on

514
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Speaker 3: there right now for.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and buying them. Would he be the last one?

516
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Speaker 3: I would lean Zaire. I would lean Zaire Franklin because

517
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Speaker 3: the linebackers are not great without him. But Biden has

518
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Speaker 3: been great as well. I mean, yeah, that's a good group.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's why I mentioned it. Everybody we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: but two, we're drafted elsewhere and then acquired by Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Do we see that as a critique of Indianapolis or

522
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Speaker 1: as a kudos to Chris Ballard for saying, you know what,

523
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how you get him, you just got

524
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Speaker 1: to go get them.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago. It's a fair and worthy critique. It

526
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Speaker 3: absolutely is. I wrote it, I asked about it. It

527
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Speaker 3: was very real. I don't want to not Chris Ballard

528
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Speaker 3: for certain things like the Kenny Moore move, because Taymore

529
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Speaker 3: was nobody. He was cut from the Patriots, and I mean,

530
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Speaker 3: he's essentially a Colts draft pick, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: He's essentially a guy who made his entire career in

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Speaker 3: the city. He's been rewarded with two contracts that matters.

533
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Speaker 3: The Buckner trade was gutsy, Like that was gutsy at

534
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Speaker 3: that time to send a first round pick for defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: He's been one of the best in the league for

536
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Speaker 3: the last five or six years. But right now I

537
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Speaker 3: think you're seeing the payoff for a shift in philosophy

538
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Speaker 3: for a GM who understood that he just wasn't getting

539
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Speaker 3: it done in the secondary. I mean, I'm all enough

540
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Speaker 3: to remember when they drafted Rocky Scene in the second round,

541
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Speaker 3: like he was supposed to be a guy that was

542
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Speaker 3: going to be here for a long time, and he

543
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Speaker 3: just never became that guy. They have just not had

544
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Speaker 3: success drafting and developing corners, and it's a brutal position.

545
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Speaker 3: It's a huge injury rate. These guys always get hurt.

546
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Speaker 3: And the guys that are really special, like the guys

547
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Speaker 3: that are really really, really good, are just there's like

548
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Speaker 3: four of them. There's like certain and Denver and Sauce.

549
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Speaker 3: Gardner is one of those guys. And I loved watching

550
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Speaker 3: and talking to Steph Gilmour when he was here. Now,

551
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Speaker 3: the season was an utter disaster, but that guy was

552
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Speaker 3: lockdown for stretches and he was even better before that.

553
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Speaker 3: In New England. But again, that was a guy they

554
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Speaker 3: brought in late and he was good for them in

555
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: a disastrous season. But for the most part, their success

556
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Speaker 3: in the secondary is because they've gone out and got

557
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Speaker 3: guys from other keys.

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Speaker 1: Crazy to say because he's only twenty five years old, Zach,

559
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Speaker 1: But and I'm not saying that I believe this, but

560
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Speaker 1: I'm curious of what you hear elsewise because that keeper.

561
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Speaker 1: You know, with the Athletic you now are covering more

562
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Speaker 1: than just a Colts. I mean you're talking to and

563
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: you're around different franchises. You can add probably even more

564
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Speaker 1: perspective to the kaleidoscope. Did Sauce Gardner for the frat?

565
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Speaker 1: Is he starting to show any hint whatsoever of that

566
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Speaker 1: kind of dip that corners can go through?

567
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Speaker 3: You know what? Jake he plays for the New York Jets,

568
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: And I'm willing to just kind of throw out that

569
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Speaker 3: context because it's like, how do you have success for

570
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Speaker 3: that team? I mean, he was an All Pro his

571
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Speaker 3: first two seasons and he hasn't been lately. Does that

572
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 3: mean he's dipped? He doesn't have a lot of interceptions,

573
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: but they also don't throw his way. So I feel

574
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Speaker 3: like more than any other position besides maybe quarterback. You

575
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Speaker 3: have to weigh the context of what's going on around them.

576
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 3: I mean, the Jets defense, because their offense is so bad,

577
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: is going to be on the field way more than

578
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Speaker 3: your average defense. Now the Colts see a really good

579
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Speaker 3: player who they think can be great. And the other

580
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Speaker 3: avenue is this is Look, they gave up two first

581
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Speaker 3: round picks, which is a lot, which is the most

582
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: they've ever given up in the ballid era. But this

583
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: is a team that has seven picks next year and

584
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Speaker 3: they'll probably turn those into eight or nine, right, They

585
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 3: always seem to do that. And the other part is

586
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Speaker 3: the contract is kind of like stunningly manageable for the

587
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Speaker 3: next five years. If you can get a lockdown corner

588
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Speaker 3: roughly twenty million a year, they're paying them hardly nothing

589
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: this year. It just makes sense that that's a gamble

590
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Speaker 3: we're taking. And then you piece together this secondary. So

591
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: what does it look like right now? Right, they're banged

592
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: up all season. They've been playing with Leeds, which has helped.

593
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Speaker 3: But they've got Gardner, they've got Kenny Moore on the inside,

594
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Speaker 3: they've got you know, buying them and Nick Cross in

595
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Speaker 3: the back end. I haven't even mentioned Ward, who's been tremendous,

596
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: Like all of a sudden, it's not crazy to say

597
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: that could be one of the better secondaries in the NFL,

598
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: which is something I haven't said about the Indianapolis Colts

599
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: and god knows how long. So it's a piece to

600
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 3: a puzzle. It's a piece to a puzzle. And the

601
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: Colts knew, they knew this was not a player they

602
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: were ever going to be able to get on the

603
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Speaker 3: free agent market.

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Speaker 1: And would you agree with the fact that it symbolizes

605
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Speaker 1: or would appear as though this is the last piece

606
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Speaker 1: of evidence we need to know that they believe Daniel

607
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: Jones is the quarterback of the future for them because

608
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Speaker 1: they sent two first rounders out.

609
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was my second thought was, Okay,

610
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Speaker 3: you do not give up two first round picks over

611
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Speaker 3: the next two years if you think you're in the

612
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 3: market for a quarterback. It's that simple. It screams that

613
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: to me. I think you're going to look at a

614
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: three year, let's say, one hundred and ten million dollars

615
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 3: deal for Daniel Jones, right, I think they get it

616
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: done before before free agency starts. This is Jake Barring

617
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: a color apps a terrible fall off the clip type

618
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: December for Daniel Jones. I don't see it happening. Everything

619
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: they've said about the Pittsburgh game seems to think that,

620
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: you know, this guy is still our guy. There's nothing

621
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: wavering in their thoughts. He still threw for three hundred

622
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: and forty yards. I mean, he still had some really

623
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: nice plays. Some of the interception turnovers weren't on him,

624
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: some of them certainly were. But I think you know,

625
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: and this is going back to something Chris Baller told

626
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: me this summer. Right, If Daniel Jones going to be

627
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: the long term guy in Indy, I don't know. It's

628
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: too really to know. But he said something interesting when

629
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Speaker 3: we were talking about quarterbacks and young quarterbacks. He said,

630
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: it's a lot easier to find the guy when you

631
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: have a guy. So Daniel Jones is that guy right

632
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: now that can be here for three or four years,

633
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: who can get you to the playoffs, who can win

634
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: you to the division, which is something the Colts haven't

635
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: done in eleven years. Right, That's a really nice thing

636
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: to have in place while you search for the next

637
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: young guy. They haven't had that luxury because they've been

638
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: always turning through this wheel of quarterbacks looking for the next,

639
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: which really put them in the position in twenty three

640
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: to just we have to go get someone. We have

641
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: to draft this kid Anthony Richardson right now because we

642
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: like him more than Will Levice, which is just a

643
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: terrible place to be in. So I think getting that done,

644
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: which I think they will, barring a huge change, allows

645
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: them flexibility to look for the long term answer, whether

646
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Speaker 3: it's him or some rookie that we don't even know about.

647
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Speaker 1: By the way, Zach, when you sign your name, do

648
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: you go with the cursive Z or just the big

649
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: like zorro z because that's a fun letter. But I'm

650
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: and the cursive Z is kind of a cool one

651
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Speaker 1: to do. But I'm curious what you go with.

652
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: I do go with the cursive one. I do the

653
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: cursive one that looks like a three.

654
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of fun though, right, I mean, And

655
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: what's even more interesting about that is now, And I

656
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Speaker 1: don't know if you know this. I just read yesterday

657
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 1: an interesting statistic. Ninety seven point eight percent of all

658
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Speaker 1: people under the age of forty don't even know whether

659
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Speaker 1: the cursive Z is right.

660
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even think like, my kids are learning

661
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: to read and write in school right now, and I

662
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: don't even think they I don't think they're going to

663
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: learn cursive, which is kind of that because there's a

664
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Speaker 3: lot of cool letters that make for really cool autographs.

665
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Speaker 1: There's no question, right, all right, I was just curious

666
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: about that. I'm sitting there thinking to myself, Z, they're

667
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: just like I don't know if I was if I

668
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Speaker 1: had the initials, you know I had. I used to

669
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Speaker 1: wear all the time stuff with the letter Q. And

670
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: then the QAnon folk came along and it ruined it

671
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Speaker 1: all for me.

672
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're not, Yeah, you're done. Yeah.

673
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Speaker 1: I had a hat with just a letter Q on it, right,

674
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, this will be my hat. And

675
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden people started coming up to

676
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: me and asking me about the Aninaki and the aliens

677
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm like, what's going on here?

678
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: And then yeah, and you're you're already a guy that's

679
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: like kind of into conspiracies to some degree, So that's

680
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: just going to like further the.

681
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Speaker 1: Kind of I'm not into no, no, no, no, I'm a

682
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: critical thinker, but I think all of these people are

683
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: whack jobs.

684
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: Is what I'm getting in correct, correct, but your hat's not.

685
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: You're not.

686
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: But by the way, I don't know if you know

687
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: this or not, but that JFK Junior is going to

688
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: be on the thirty two ballot. Did you know that? Eddie?

689
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew that or not. Okay, Zach,

690
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: before we let you go, since you are an NFL writer,

691
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things that I do. Okay, we're

692
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: gonna come up with three teams here. One is the

693
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: team that you're like, I'm pretty sure that they're not

694
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: very good and I thought they were going to be.

695
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: One is the team not named Indianapolis that you're like,

696
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: I didn't think they were going to be good, but

697
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: we now need to give them their flowers. They're good.

698
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: And the third is don't let the record fool you.

699
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: The real version of them has yet to stand up.

700
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Let's begin with the first one, which is give me

701
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: the team that you're like. I think there's now enough

702
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: body of work to say it just ain't their year.

703
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: They're not good this year.

704
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with the team the culture playing Sunday

705
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: in Berlin like the Falcons, Like, what are the Falcons doing? Like,

706
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: who are you like, what do you do well? Like

707
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: how do you beat the Bills on Monday night but

708
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: then lose to the Panthers by thirty? You know, like

709
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: They're just a team that if I was a Falcon saying,

710
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: I would just be miserable because they have flashes of talent.

711
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: They have one of the best player in the league

712
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: and Bjon Robinson Michael Pennick throws a beautiful ball, but

713
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: they just keep stubbing their toe and I'm just like,

714
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: they just keep running the cycle of mediocrity, and I

715
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: just feel like, like, what are you like, what are

716
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: you doing? Who are you well?

717
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: What's funny is to go back to my question of

718
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: the expanse, you know, the theoretical expansion draft, the Falcons,

719
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: at least offensively might have two of like the top

720
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: twenty players selected, right, Yeah, I mean they've got some

721
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: they got right, but.

722
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: They just like they have no system identity, and like

723
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: there are games where Bijon doesn't get many touches, Slash

724
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: doesn't produce, and it's just like I feel like they

725
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: get up the big games and then like they'll have

726
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: a dud every other Sunday and it's just like I

727
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: just hate the teams that are not consistent, like be

728
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: something every week, and just I just they're just so

729
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: easy not to believe in.

730
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: Okay, now give me a team that at the beginning

731
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: of the year you anticipated they were going to be

732
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: a legit playoff contender, and you look at it now

733
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: and they've gotten to a slow start, and you say,

734
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: you know what, I think we just need to accept

735
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: the fact, like Atlanta is enigmatic, right, give me the

736
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: one that you're now definitive. You're like, I can pull

737
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: the Miles Turner and close the book on them this year.

738
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Speaker 3: You know, that's tough because it's just so hard to like,

739
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm tempted to say k C because now that's not

740
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: to say I don't believe in them making the playoffs,

741
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: but the road is going to be really hard. Like

742
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: if you look at that division, the Chiefs are in

743
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: third place in the division. They're losing all these one

744
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: score games after going eleven to zero in one score

745
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: games last year. The offense is good, the defense is good,

746
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: and it's leaky, and they gotta beat the Chargers. The

747
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: Broncos keep winning. The Broncos keep winning these one score games,

748
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: and I'm telling you right now, it would not stun

749
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: me if the Chiefs are in some doer guy games

750
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: and let's say early January, late December, that they have

751
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: to win to make in the playoffs. And again they

752
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: could lose in a couple of weeks to the Colts

753
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: because they're gonna have to stop Jonathan Taylor and the Colts.

754
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: And I was in KC this summer and I was

755
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: talking with some of the case writers and they said,

756
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: you know which team has sort of been a kryptonite

757
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: for Patrick Mahomes. The Indianapolis Colts.

758
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: Only team he has yet to beat the regular season, right.

759
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean think about this. Think about the quarterbacks

760
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: that have beat Mahomes from the Colts. Jacobe Brissett in

761
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: that nineteen to nine game on Sunday Night Football where

762
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: Marlon Mack went crazy. Matt Ryan first win as an

763
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts quarterback, one of his only wins as a

764
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: Colts quarterback, was a win over Patrick Mahomes at Lucas

765
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: Oil Stadium. So there's this strange hex.

766
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: Now.

767
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: I know Mahomes won the playoff game against Luck years ago,

768
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: but I'm not sold on KC being in the dance

769
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: s issue.

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00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Washington to me is intriguing because the commanders are

771
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: one that I and I know that Daniels has been hurt.

772
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: But I look at Washington and I go I thought

773
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: they were going to be decent, and I think now

774
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: we can say that they're not very good. Agreed.

775
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was there in camp and I'm telling you, Jake,

776
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: they were saying like, this is the most anticipated season

777
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: for this team in twenty five years. Yeah, and I

778
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: believed it. But the reality is they gave up fifty

779
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: five points in the NFC Championship game. The defense wasn't

780
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: good last year. They they played a really soft schedule.

781
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: They won some games late. Jaden was great, but he's

782
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: been hurt, and it was just kind of like a

783
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: come back to life year. You could kind of feel

784
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: it in the preseason that they were just not going

785
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: to be there as NFC contenders at the end.

786
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, Zach, I don't know if you've ever done this,

787
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: but you go to a discount store and you see

788
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: the detergent and you're like, wow, tied for a buck

789
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: ninety nine, I got to buy that. And then you

790
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: get home and you realize what you bought was Tita

791
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: and like the A looks like the E right, and

792
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, looks like detergent, but not give me

793
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: the team that my record, they look like a contender,

794
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: but deep down you do a deep, deep, deep look

795
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: at it, and you go, eh, now, fools gold.

796
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: I'm tempted to say Baltimore, and I know their record

797
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 3: is not saying their contender, but look, as they're scheduled,

798
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: they're going to go on a run.

799
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: Here.

800
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: They're going to go on a run because they don't

801
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: play anyone good for the next five or six weeks.

802
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: I'm not ruling out like a seven to one, eight

803
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: and one midseason run from Lamar Jackson. I still don't

804
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: trust the defense, and I think I think that first

805
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 3: game in Buffalo was an omen. I think the way

806
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: they collapse was an omen. I just don't think even

807
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: if they get past Pittsburgh. Pittsbord might be another answer.

808
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: I still don't believe in Pittsburgh. I just don't believe

809
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: in these AFC nor teams. But I just don't think

810
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: Baltimore has the stuff to get over the hump this year.

811
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: Even if they make this great run and have a

812
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: lot of people talking about how hot they aren't going

813
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: into January.

814
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go with.

815
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: Man.

816
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: I hate to say this because I like them, but

817
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: I'll go with Seattle on this one.

818
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: Oh they're good. They're good.

819
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: No, I like them, and listen, I like and I

820
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: think it's a great story. And what you know Darnold's

821
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: doing there in their uniform. I mean, I've always kind

822
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: of liked Seattle, but I'm just, for whatever reason, I

823
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: have a hard time accepting it.

824
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: Well, they're the second best team in the division. I

825
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: think the Rams are one of the best teams in

826
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: the league and no one's talking about it. I'm kind

827
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: of surprised you didn't say the Colts. I mean, and

828
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: two does it feel like they're seven and two up

829
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: a lot of bad teams the Colts.

830
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: We're going to find out here, right, I mean, it's

831
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna get real once they get back from Germany. And

832
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: then you got that stretch where you got Kansas City,

833
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: you know, Houston and Jack but you have to Seeattle,

834
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: who I mentioned in San Francisco right there as you

835
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: turn into December. So we'll see. We're going to find out, right, Yeah,

836
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: And I.

837
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: Think I think Houston's really big for this team. And

838
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: I know that the Texans don't have a good record

839
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: this year, but that's the biggest speed bump in the

840
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: division over the last couple of years. Jacksonville is a

841
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: good team as well, but I think the mental hurdle

842
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: of making those final few plays and games against the

843
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: Texans is really big. Remember a lot of those games

844
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: came down to one or two plays and the Texans

845
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: always made them. So if the Colts get over that hump,

846
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to start to buy.

847
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Them, Zach. I'll see it at the starting line for

848
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: the drumstick dash, and by the time we get to

849
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: broader Poltans, You'll be long, long, long ahead of me.

850
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: But I'll at least see at the starting line.

851
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: I'll give you an autograph afterwards. With that.

852
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: That's right, I'll check out the cursive, z It's been

853
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: a while since I've seen one. Appreciate it as always man,

854
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: all right, Zach keeper from the Athletic joining us on

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Speaker 1: the Java House. Peel and poor guest line. Keep in

856
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Speaker 1: mind Jake twenty five the discount code for twenty five

857
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Speaker 1: percent off at Java House and use my name first

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Speaker 1: or last name, or simply one oh seven five of

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Speaker 1: the fan in the search bar, and it will take

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Speaker 1: you to the fan bundle, which is Wrangler Energy. The

861
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Speaker 1: liquid science, whether it be Arctic freeze or orange hydration drink,

862
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: put that rite in water after workout. Fabulous. And of

863
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Speaker 1: course the Colombian coldbrew coffee also works with hot brew

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Speaker 1: coffee if that is your choice. Matt Taylor is the

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Speaker 1: radio play by play voice of the Indianapolis Colts. Joins

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Speaker 1: us typically each and every Thursday to preview the colts

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Speaker 1: upcoming upcoming game opponent. He's on the Java House Peel

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Speaker 1: and Poor Guest line. And we'll begin here, Matt, I

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Speaker 1: want to say, and I don't know which of our

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Speaker 1: conversations in the past it's been where this has come up,

871
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Speaker 1: but I have this weird memory of you at some

872
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Speaker 1: point mentioning that along the way, whether it be high

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Speaker 1: school to college, you took German classes. Am I wrong?

874
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Speaker 5: In that good memory? I took four years of German

875
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Speaker 5: and high school.

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Speaker 1: How much of that do you remember?

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Speaker 3: You know?

878
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Speaker 5: I can kind of piece it together, you know, German,

879
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 5: I think is a very from what I understand right.

880
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 5: I don't know any other other languages, but from my understanding,

881
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 5: German is a very easy language to learn, and a

882
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 5: lot of English is sort of a cousin or a

883
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Speaker 5: distant relative of German. And so you know, it's funny,

884
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 5: my we had to do so in German. German class,

885
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 5: we had to do a quarter project every every quarter,

886
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Speaker 5: so every nine weeks we had to do a project

887
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Speaker 5: in German class.

888
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Speaker 3: And you can do whatever you want, right.

889
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 5: You could do an essay or an oral project, or

890
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Speaker 5: you could do a video. So I used to have

891
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Speaker 5: an old tape cassette player and I would record myself

892
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Speaker 5: doing Don Fischer. So it was like it was like

893
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Speaker 5: the Mike Davis Show. So I was Don Fisher talking

894
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: in German uh and interviewing Mike Davis, and then I

895
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Speaker 5: would pretend like I was Mike Davis answering the questions

896
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Speaker 5: in German, being asked to him as done.

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Speaker 1: Can you give us a can you give us a

898
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Speaker 1: quick rendition of Don Fisher in German?

899
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Speaker 3: Bill comment?

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Speaker 5: Everybody this ist, Mike Davis, Shawa owned Indiana University basketball,

901
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 5: Spielstegard owned dry pouta victory Uber perdue last noc to now.

902
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: Now hold on. Now, this seems almost like cheating because

903
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: basically you just took a bunch of words and then

904
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Speaker 1: added like an untah to it? Right, I thought he cussed?

905
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Speaker 1: I think, did I need to get the dumb beaton there? Yeah?

906
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Speaker 5: That was welcome, Welcome to the Mike Davis Show. Indiana

907
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 5: University of Basketball last night beat Perdue University by three points.

908
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's not bad. That's solid. I mean, I'm great,

909
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: and you're German more than you're Don Fischer. But that's

910
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: not bad. That's pretty solid actually, right, Well.

911
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Fisher took a hit because I

912
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Speaker 5: was so focused on the German parts of it.

913
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Speaker 1: Now, how much when you go over you know what, Matt,

914
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Speaker 1: how much of the pregame can you do in German?

915
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Speaker 5: Not a lot? I mean I can do. I could

916
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Speaker 5: do bare bones. I mean, god, I took it twenty

917
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Speaker 5: five years ago, high school wise, so I mean I could.

918
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Speaker 5: I can do like the basic stuff I remember, like

919
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Speaker 5: the very basic stuff like how to have like a

920
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 5: first grade conversation, like how you doing? What do you

921
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Speaker 5: do in your free time?

922
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Speaker 1: Well, that's perfect for this show.

923
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Speaker 5: It's right now, you know, so so Jake So Jake,

924
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Speaker 5: Jake Box, Max Duwgaren and Diner Freisite that's what do

925
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Speaker 5: you do in your free time? Dick leipsta spielster if

926
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Speaker 5: Zaire Franklin. That's my favorite player, Zaire Franklin. So you know,

927
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Speaker 5: just basic, basic stuff here and there, just to get by.

928
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Speaker 1: You know, when I was in college, I mentioned before,

929
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Speaker 1: I took Swahili. When I was in Indiana, I took

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Speaker 1: literally I did. I took three semesters of I needed

931
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Speaker 1: four semesters of a foreign language. I needed two different

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Speaker 1: foreign languages I took. I started in Spanish, took two

933
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Speaker 1: years of that, and then I went in and said, well,

934
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Speaker 1: what's the easiest language on campus? And they said Bombra,

935
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Speaker 1: and so I took Bomber, which is an African clicking language,

936
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Speaker 1: you know that thing. And uh, two weeks in the

937
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Speaker 1: grad student that was teaching and I think got there

938
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Speaker 1: was some clerical issue and so it was no longer offered,

939
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Speaker 1: and I said, what's the second easiest language? Is Swahili?

940
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Speaker 1: And I was mad, I was, I'm not kidding you.

941
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Speaker 1: For a brief window there, I was probably like communicatively

942
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Speaker 1: fluent in Swahili. But yes, over the you kind of

943
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Speaker 1: forget it. It's a very simple language because they used

944
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Speaker 1: like one word for like entire you know whatever. But

945
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Speaker 1: but yes, you do forget it over time. But I

946
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Speaker 1: would love to go somewhere where they speak it and

947
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Speaker 1: see if it comes back at all. And I'll be

948
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Speaker 1: curious when you're in Germany if you find yourself being

949
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Speaker 1: able to understand stuff more than you would have guessed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing so we were there two years ago.

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Speaker 5: The biggest thing that came flooding back was like the pronouns,

952
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Speaker 5: because the pronouns are different. For like, there's a female

953
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Speaker 5: pronoun and there's male pronouns obviously, right, so like, hopefully

954
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Speaker 5: I get this right, and hopefully my German teacher isn't

955
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Speaker 5: like throwing a tomato at the radio right now. But

956
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Speaker 5: you know, like for for a female, it's like dinah.

957
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Speaker 5: So everything for a female ends with an e, so dinah.

958
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Speaker 5: And then if I were, you know, referring to something

959
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Speaker 5: else from a noun standpoint, but it was like a

960
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Speaker 5: connitive like for a male it would be diner. So

961
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Speaker 5: so what I just asked you is like box Max,

962
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Speaker 5: Dugan and diner fright site. So your is diner free time,

963
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 5: It's fright site. So yeah, it's just like little things

964
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Speaker 5: like that just came flooding back in terms of the

965
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Speaker 5: the language and how it works.

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Speaker 3: And how it's set up.

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Speaker 5: It's supposed to be like it's like a sentenced diagram.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Does that mean that

969
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: a female entertainer on the beach in Germany is a

970
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Dinah Shore is right?

971
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Speaker 5: It would be yeah, It could be yeah, dinah. Yeah,

972
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Speaker 5: it ends with the knee if it's a female.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Matt, we're supposed to have you here to talk

974
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Speaker 1: about obviously the Colts, so let's get right to it.

975
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Speaker 1: I want to know what you think the Colts over

976
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: the course of the week had a major acquisition, a

977
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: major acquisition in terms of their defensive backfield, So let's

978
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: get right to it. Your thoughts on safety, Tray Washington

979
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: joining the practice squad.

980
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 5: Hey, man, you got to have everybody.

981
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Right, No, Sauce Gardner, do you believe Matt in talking

982
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: about it? I heard him saying that he's diving right

983
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: into the playbook and this guy seems to be pretty

984
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: dialed in. But is corner the one position that a

985
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: guy can be air dropped in and immediately acclam I'm

986
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: not saying it's easy, right, but if you're going to

987
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: put a guy in there and just say, okay, go

988
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: and do what you got to do based on instinct

989
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: before you really get to know what it is that

990
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: we do. Is corner one of the positions where you

991
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: can kind of get away with that until a guy's

992
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: up to speed.

993
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean perhaps, I mean, especially in a game

994
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: like this when they have such a clear number one

995
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 5: wide receiver in the Falcons and Drake London.

996
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 3: You know, we'll see.

997
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 5: How that sort of manifests itself with you know, a

998
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 5: shadow possibility with Sauce Gardener on London. You know those

999
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 5: guys have, by the way, just anecdotally, they have faced

1000
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 5: off one time, ironically overseas. It was two years ago

1001
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 5: in London, and Sauce Gardner did a great job on him.

1002
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 5: I think he only gave up like one catch for less.

1003
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: Than ten yards.

1004
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: But at any rate, Yeah, I mean, I get what

1005
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: you're saying, although I don't think the Colts are gonna

1006
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 5: put him out there if they don't feel comfortable in

1007
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 5: his ability to grasp the defense. And that's what Sauce

1008
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 5: Gardner said today. I know you've played some of the

1009
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 5: clips just now, but he's like, hey, this is my

1010
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 5: job to to to be out there and to be

1011
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: on top of all this stuff.

1012
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: I know, those guys out.

1013
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 5: There, you know, playing around them, guys like Cam buying

1014
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 5: them and Kenny Moore, you know, they're going to be

1015
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 5: over communicative to help him and to put him in

1016
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 5: the right spots and to you know, have him be

1017
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 5: on top of checks and things like that. But he's like,

1018
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 5: I don't need any of that. It shouldn't be their job.

1019
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 5: It should be my job to know the defense. So

1020
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 5: he said he was actually looking forward to the plane

1021
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 5: ride with you know, eight plus or eight or nine

1022
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 5: hours on the plane just to kind of focus on football,

1023
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 5: because the last forty eight hours for him has been

1024
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 5: everything but football, with you know, moving and you know,

1025
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 5: a playbook and you know, signing papers and you know

1026
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 5: everything that comes with the trade. He's excited to just

1027
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 5: watch film on the falcons, understand the playbook, and get

1028
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 5: up the speed so we can go out there and

1029
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 5: play and not have to think too much.

1030
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: On Sunday, Matt did, I don't know how to word this.

1031
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: The game in Pittsburgh. You know, you get those sometimes

1032
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: right where you can just tell, you know, it's like

1033
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: in basketball, when you get those games where the other

1034
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: teams that are just hitting everything and you can't nothing

1035
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: goes your way, right, And it felt that way in Pittsburgh,

1036
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: the turnovers, all of it. And and we don't know

1037
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: yet whether or not this is going to be a

1038
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: game that we look back and go, yeah, that was

1039
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: the anomaly, or if that all of a sudden like

1040
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: exposed something about the Colts. But do you think it

1041
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: changed in any way, maybe even for the good, the

1042
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: focus on the inside the lines game of this Atlanta

1043
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: matchup and not allowing this to become a trap game

1044
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: that it could have, knowing that you have the buy

1045
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: and then Kansas City coming off of this trip, did

1046
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: it re Did this rechannel things a little bit?

1047
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1048
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: I think that's a good point.

1049
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, in the moment, you're not wanting to,

1050
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 5: you know, take a loss, but you know, I guess

1051
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: if it comes, if you have to pick a loss,

1052
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: you say, okay, let's have one that doesn't kill us

1053
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 5: because we're having such a good start of the season

1054
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 5: in the AFC. It was our first AFC loss. You know,

1055
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 5: not that you make any excuses at all, but you know, TJ.

1056
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 5: Watt and Alex Highsmith. Those are two elite players at

1057
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 5: their position. The Falcons don't have guys like that. Most

1058
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 5: teams don't have a pair of guys like that. And

1059
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 5: so you know, you had more turnovers in one afternoon

1060
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 5: with six than you did the first eight weeks combined.

1061
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: You only had four weeks one through eight.

1062
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm more of the you know, it's a

1063
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 5: blip on the radar, it's a little bit of anomaly.

1064
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 5: But that being said, you know you are who you

1065
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 5: are and when it comes to putting things on tape,

1066
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 5: so you know, when you have a little bit of

1067
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 5: a leakage up front, you got to you know, do

1068
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 5: a better job of protecting the football in the pocket if.

1069
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Speaker 3: You're Daniel Jones.

1070
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know what's going on when you get

1071
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 5: back from the bye, because you've got to go on

1072
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 5: the road to Kansas City and then after that you've

1073
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: got four division games left, only seven games remaining after that,

1074
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 5: the final push is on once you get back after

1075
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 5: the bye, and so you know the deal what you get.

1076
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 5: It's a heck of a lot easier to you go

1077
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 5: two weeks off to deal with the win rather than

1078
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 5: the loss, because you've got time to stew about it,

1079
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 5: think about it, and so those are the important things

1080
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 5: that the Colds have to consider one into this game,

1081
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 5: albeit you know, weird week and a lot of travel

1082
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: to Germany and Berlin.

1083
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: Did you get the feeling, Matt, that Pittsburgh did anything

1084
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: in terms of their scheme to be the first ones

1085
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: to really recappck on Daniel Jones or was that just

1086
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: a matter of, Look, they've got good players that finally

1087
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: had a game where they became good players. Yeah.

1088
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: I think this kind of like the Steelers did more

1089
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 5: to the Colts than the Colts kind of took anything

1090
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: for granted or took anything to you know, uh, took

1091
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 5: advantage of a mindset going into the game. I mean,

1092
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 5: Mike Comblin has just a a great track record of

1093
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 5: being able to get guys to play at a high

1094
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 5: level when they need to and when their backs are

1095
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: against the wall, if you so. One of the things

1096
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 5: that I was kind of disappointed by was, you know,

1097
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 5: the Colts knew that that was a very desperate team

1098
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh. They were going to have the home field advantage.

1099
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 5: You know, that defensive line came to play and they

1100
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 5: definitely woke up I mean, the weird thing about turnovers

1101
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: is that they just kind of come in bunches and

1102
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 5: they just kind of snowball, if you will, at times.

1103
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1104
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 5: So once they got the first couple, you know, the

1105
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 5: Colts were down on the scoreboard and they had to

1106
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 5: throw their way to get back into the game. You know,

1107
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 5: had to you know, take to the air a lot,

1108
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 5: a lot of pocket passes from Daniel Jones, and that's

1109
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 5: when guys hit their hands up or they kind of

1110
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 5: pin their ears back, you know, going after the quarterback.

1111
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 5: And so I think the turnovers just snowballed because of

1112
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 5: where the Colts were at and what the scoreboard dictated

1113
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 5: the Colts in terms of trying to get back into

1114
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 5: the game.

1115
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: So again, I think it's kind.

1116
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 5: Of an outlier, a little bit of an aberration. And

1117
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 5: the frustrating thing was, I mean, the Colts got off

1118
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 5: to a good start. They do what they normally do, right,

1119
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 5: They got a three and out and then a touchdown,

1120
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 5: and they were kind of like, you know, in a

1121
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 5: high gear early.

1122
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: But then just just things just snowballed. And again the TJ.

1123
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 5: Watt play just kind of set everything off kilter for

1124
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 5: the Colts.

1125
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: Okay. Lastly, Matt, you mentioned going through the air. You

1126
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: will be doing that to get to his sleep Berlin

1127
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: for this game. For those that are curious, and I

1128
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: think a lot of fans are, give me just the

1129
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: overall scene of the travel of getting there, when you

1130
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: when when the team leaves, you know how it looks,

1131
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: and then what the schedule is once you're over there,

1132
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: because it is an acclamation.

1133
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt about it. So we're gonna leave later

1134
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 5: on tonight and we're supposed to land middle of the

1135
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 5: day German time tomorrow, so that's Friday. So it's almost

1136
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 5: like a time machine. Right as soon as you land, it's.

1137
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: Time to go.

1138
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 5: It's time to be up and operate for day. And

1139
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 5: so we'll get to the hotel or you know, kind

1140
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 5: of like the training hub base if you will, for

1141
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 5: the Colts, and then a few hours later we'll get

1142
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 5: back on a shuttle and a bus and go to

1143
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 5: the stadium. The Colts will have a walk through or

1144
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 5: a kind of a I would say, a practice slash

1145
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 5: walk through, kind of a mixture of both tomorrow and

1146
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 5: then do some media availability tomorrow. It's gonna be late

1147
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 5: in the day German time. But kind of middle of

1148
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 5: the day back here Eastern time. H. And then Saturday

1149
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 5: is another like mock game walk through for the team

1150
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 5: at the stadium. UH. And then there's a lot of

1151
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 5: marketing opportunities UH outside of you know, team responsibility if

1152
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 5: you will. Right, there's a there's kind of like a

1153
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 5: gathering spot in downtown Berlin for Colts fans. It's kind

1154
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 5: of like the hub for all of the fans. It's

1155
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 5: called the DOS Center. And there's gonna be some Q

1156
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 5: and a's and some other public forums that are obviously

1157
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 5: centered around the NFL and the Colts UH in that area.

1158
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: UH.

1159
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: And then obviously the game is on Sunday, and so

1160
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 5: you kind of wake up and go and get to

1161
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: the stadium pretty early. And we've got just some logistical

1162
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 5: things to hash out with. You know, there's some electric

1163
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 5: electricity conversion stuff and internet and just things that come

1164
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 5: with playing in a different stadium and at a different

1165
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 5: continent and different rules and regulations. So, UH, that's the

1166
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 5: boring stuff. But for the most part, it's going to

1167
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 5: be go, go, go, work, work, work, taking a little

1168
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 5: bit of sight and scenes, but for the most part,

1169
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 5: you're there to work and be part of a football game,

1170
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 5: and hopefully the Colts get a win before the bye.

1171
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: Now, I'm just gonna guess that you don't have to

1172
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 1: make a connection in LaGuardia, right.

1173
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 5: It's a straight shot. It is, I think eight and

1174
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 5: a half hours there and almost ten hours coming home.

1175
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, right, all right, Well, Matt, certainly safe

1176
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: travels to all of you, and enjoy it. Good and

1177
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: tog how do you say goodbye in German?

1178
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: Guten tog?

1179
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 5: Good good day is both good day is hello and goodbye?

1180
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 5: So guten dog works too absolutely, and.

1181
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: Then how do you say good how do you?

1182
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: Good?

1183
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: And dog works okay for goodbye also.

1184
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, like good day, you know, like you know, I'll

1185
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 5: see you later, that kind of thing, and you putting

1186
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 5: me on the spy here. I should I should know

1187
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 5: better about some of these basic things. You know, Bill

1188
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 5: common is welcome, h you know, please and thank you

1189
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 5: bit bit to Sharn is like thanks a lot. I

1190
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 5: got to work on goodbye. Maybe maybe next week when

1191
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 5: I talk to y'all, have a better goodbye.

1192
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: Well you know what, next week you're gonna be I'm

1193
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna be in Germany, so you'll be believe it or

1194
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: not because during the bye week I'm going to We're

1195
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: going to Austria and Germany. So this is why I

1196
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: need to know these things. Right.

1197
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 5: Oh, how cool is that?

1198
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. Good for you.

1199
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you go, Shannon, Shannon would like to

1200
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: know how you say you can fly home by yourself.

1201
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: Then she'd like to know how to say that so

1202
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: she knows that, right.

1203
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, you only need one finger for that.

1204
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, man, Charles's sake, man, appreciate it,

1205
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: all right, guys, I goodn't talk. Matt Taylor, the Voice

1206
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: of the Cults,