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Speaker 2: There he goes again, fifty for sideline.

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Speaker 1: You don't do it again? Turn touchdowns?

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Speaker 3: Why Eastern Conference championship has to capture five the Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Plation, right Tallick Paul, which the one hundred nine Indianapolis

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Speaker 5: If he's just a fan morning show with KB JB

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Speaker 6: All right, it's a gamble by the coach, But it's

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Speaker 6: not like the really gambling, like are we not going

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Speaker 7: Quarterback or not? You do think, as you mentioned, that

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Speaker 6: Match any offer apps in something insanely crazy that I

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Speaker 6: don't know anyone else would do.

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Speaker 7: But it is it is a.

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Speaker 6: Little bit of a gamble money wise, because I think

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Speaker 7: They're going to try to keep working on this.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna see if they can find some sort of

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Speaker 6: way towards the middle in the immediate kind of aftermap. Now,

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Speaker 6: what it means is that Alex Pierce, one of the

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Speaker 6: top free agent receivers, top players regardless of position, is

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Speaker 6: going to be free to made a big offer to

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Speaker 6: Get that one done, but he's got like five days

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Speaker 7: He's going to get a huge deal no matter what.

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Speaker 6: Does sound like he would like to be an Indie,

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Speaker 6: but because he is now free, they really really are

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Speaker 6: going to have to pay for it. It's not a

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Speaker 6: great situation for Indianapolis, who has several other salary cap

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Speaker 2: Ah reality in the National Football League. That's what we're

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Speaker 2: up against today. Good morning, everybody, Welcome into Wednesday hump Day.

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Speaker 2: Mark Dakton, it's good to see you, James Boyd, Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 2: thanks for holding it down yesterday. As the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 2: may be made more that we don't know about yet,

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Speaker 2: but they have decided to put the rarely used on

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Speaker 2: a quarterback certainly transition tag on Daniel Jones. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Kevin and James. You've been all over just researching what

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Speaker 2: the difference is between franchise tag transition tag. All those

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Speaker 8: It means that in all likelihood, Daniel Jones will at

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Speaker 8: least be under contract for one more year with the Colts,

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Speaker 8: which is the goal. When you tag somebody, you want

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Speaker 8: to keep them. But the difference between the non exclusive

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Speaker 8: franchise tag and the transition tag, besides money, transition tag

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Speaker 8: is about six million dollars less, is that there is

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Speaker 8: no draft compensation involved. Had they put the non exclusive

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Speaker 8: pay him more money and also give up two first

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Speaker 8: Non schools the franchise tag a few years ago, Jeff,

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Speaker 8: But my point is they are not doing that. But

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Speaker 8: And I look at it as them saying, we're going

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Speaker 8: this price point right here. If you can get better,

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Speaker 8: we'll probably match that and should match that because they

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kevin, don't you want to hear all your offers?

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Speaker 8: If you're a man a hot commodity, you want to

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Speaker 9: I was always more of a you tag Pierce, you

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Speaker 9: But you know you said called Daniel Jones's bluff. Couldn't

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Speaker 9: Well again, there's still a small chance right now. I mean,

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Speaker 9: if I don't see one of the thirty one teams

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Speaker 9: Talked about here, yes, before, that could look a whole

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Speaker 9: Daniel Jones is whatever status is going to be. Well,

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Speaker 10: You know that guy, have a buffalo. I heard he's

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Speaker 9: And we can get into it, but the reward is

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Speaker 9: I mean six million and one hundred and a three

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Speaker 1: We did this exercise yesterday. What's that? Not even two

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Speaker 8: I do want to say this real quick, and I've

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Speaker 8: the Milwaukee Bucks had enough space to get him. It's

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Speaker 8: So I thought of that with the Colts, where you

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Speaker 9: And that's a really good point. And just to clear

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Speaker 1: He's on a recruiting trip.

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Speaker 1: That's the six million dollar difference.

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Speaker 9: By giving him six million less, you said, hey, we

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Speaker 9: You are trusting Alec Pierce a whole whole lot. You're

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Speaker 9: Be used it, It seems pretty idiotic to me if

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Speaker 9: What is the reward of it down the road? But yeah,

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Speaker 9: I just again, I've been in a camp for you know,

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Speaker 8: You can't take the tag off of Daniel Jones after

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Speaker 1: That's just not how it works.

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Speaker 8: You hope that those words mean something when there's a

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Speaker 11: Offer and you can you can fly apart probably plains

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Speaker 2: Everybody's always trying to pull the home tie cord. It

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Speaker 8: Let's just say it right now. Look, I love all

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Speaker 9: Oh that's a little disparaging in the Pierce family dynamic.

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Speaker 2: Now, they're so solid that don't worry about whether I think.

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Speaker 8: But you know, I mean, I kept hitting I'm a

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Speaker 2: All right, that's part of it. We'll be talking about

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Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, and welcome into the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: It is check down time and we will start if

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Speaker 2: you're just joining us with the Indianapolis Colts. Yesterday, by

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Speaker 2: four o'clock in the afternoon, it was the deadline, the

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Speaker 2: Colts made their decision. Kevin Bowen. They have put the

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Speaker 2: What does it mean?

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Speaker 9: Yes, so currently one year, thirty seven million dollar deal

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Speaker 9: The Colts can match that offer, so they have right

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Speaker 9: the Colts are saying, maybe the quiet part out loud,

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Speaker 2: Well, we're worried about your injury history.

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, Well, I mean that's that's what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 9: I mean, there's a reason to be skeptical of Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: What does it mean for Alec Pierce, soon to be

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Speaker 8: Is the bank open right now, Jeff, Because that's what

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Speaker 8: I would say he has it so Monday as well

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Speaker 1: Get in the mix.

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Speaker 8: For as Kevin has pointed out, a wide receiver with

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Speaker 2: A lot of people think that his market value is

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Speaker 8: So the tag for Alec Pierce would have been twenty

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Speaker 8: Listen to me, not then, No, seriously, it's gone up

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Speaker 2: Also, of note yesterday, I don't know if the Colts

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I definitely see the Colts trying to take a

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Speaker 9: But that's why I will continue to bring up brought

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Speaker 12: You know?

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Speaker 9: Because if you want to do all this, if you

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Speaker 9: You got to find money right now that you don't have.

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Speaker 9: And we're not used to that with the Colts. We're

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Speaker 1: But yes, to answer your question, I definitely yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right. Also a quarterback yesterday, Kyler Murray looks like

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be there.

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Speaker 8: I can't see another team swooping in trying to pay

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Speaker 2: All right. One other note, I gotta tell Mark Dyke

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was shocking.

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Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, that was not on my list of things

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying football is three sixty five, all right?

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Speaker 2: A lot of basketball tonight. I you bubble watch it

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Speaker 2: is on. They will host tonight a very key matchup.

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Speaker 2: It'll be on BTN and WIBC starting at six thirty.

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Speaker 2: It's the first of a BTN doublehead of the second

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Speaker 9: Correct, and this falls in the can't lose category, not

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Speaker 2: A lot of work to do. Purdue, on the other hand,

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Speaker 2: turn it around at Northwestern later on tonight again, doubleheader

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Speaker 2: We will be not just covering the game live broadcasting it,

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Speaker 2: but we'll be out at Hinklefield House this afternoon. JMV

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Speaker 2: won two of their last three, so we'll be spending

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Speaker 2: some time at one of the great arenas in all

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Speaker 2: of America later on tonight. And I don't want to

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Speaker 2: forget you. Kevin Stanford plays at Notre Dame later on tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's a late game. Will you stay up for the

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Speaker 2: nine PM tip.

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Speaker 9: I will well, yeah, I mean if you're not staying

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Speaker 9: at to watch Bendic Matherin against the Pacers, so I

445
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Speaker 9: don't know why you aren't living tonight over under twenty

446
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Speaker 9: two and a half shot attempts for Bendic mather shot attempts,

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Speaker 9: not points.

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Speaker 2: You talk about the Pacers, they start.

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Speaker 8: Going to say the under. That's a lot of shots

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Speaker 8: coming off the bank. I'm gonna say the under mark.

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Speaker 12: In there.

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Speaker 8: Well, listen to me. This is why I'm want to

453
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Speaker 8: take the under. You should have made it free throw attempts.

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Speaker 8: You know Matherin matther can get thirty and he'll have

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Speaker 8: seventeen free throws.

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Speaker 1: So I'm taking the under.

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Speaker 2: Marcus he wants.

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Speaker 1: Yes, certainly be Benext's mindset.

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Speaker 2: The Pacers do start that four game road trip tonight

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Speaker 2: out West. They will take on the Clippers tonight ten

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Speaker 2: pm airtime Here on the Fan, a ten thirty start.

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Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam, Aaron Nesmith, Andrew Nemhart, Kevin they've been upgraded

463
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Speaker 2: to questionable. Of the three, who do you think plays tonight?

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Speaker 1: Ah, I got no idea.

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Speaker 2: They might not have an idea this morning. We also

466
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Speaker 2: know that Ivatsa Zubats continues to be out. Don't know

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Speaker 2: when we will see him. The Clippers will be playing

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Speaker 2: without Bradley Beale and John Collins. They've already been listed

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Speaker 2: as out for tonight's time.

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Speaker 8: We have those guy's played this year. I mean Bradley

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Speaker 8: bil has been out from once right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while, boy. Sectionals last night, I'm

473
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Speaker 2: just gonna go through some winners for you, because there

474
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Speaker 2: a bunch of games Noblesville, Hamilton, Southeastern, Lawrence, Central University,

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Speaker 2: Cardinal Rhdder Brownsburg, Southport, de cater Central, Franklin, Hamilton Heights,

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Speaker 2: Rebuff Cathedral, Bishop Schatard, Washington, Greensburg, Western Boone, Lapel, Purdue, Polytech,

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Speaker 2: Broad Ripple. They are all advancing and all still alive.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, So big night last night in high school.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, sounded like Sectional eight per Usual is outstanding up

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Speaker 9: there at Noblesville. Shout out to Bobby Allen and the

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Speaker 9: Royals advance scene in the first game speak Butler Baron

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Speaker 9: Walker sounds like he was very impressive for Noblesville and

483
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Speaker 9: making some big plays there as they won the opener.

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Speaker 9: So that'll set up Noblesville Carmel always a great rivalry,

485
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Speaker 9: a great student section back and forth there in the

486
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Speaker 9: first game Friday, and then Fishers will get their crosstown

487
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Speaker 9: rival HC gave them a game earlier this season at

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Speaker 9: the Fishers Events Center, so loaded Friday there and by

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Speaker 9: the way, maam Ohio, speaking of basketball, watched the final

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Speaker 9: handful of minutes of that one, their last home regular

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Speaker 9: season game of the year, and they survive. Toledo got

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Speaker 9: the ball down to really look like final possession. Are

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Speaker 9: they going to go for three in the win? Ruin

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Speaker 9: the undefeated season. Toledo guard tries to drive it, turns

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Speaker 9: it over. Mayam Ohio survives their Pete Souiter, the Carmel product,

496
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Speaker 9: the leading score for the RedHawks there and just an

497
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Speaker 9: awesome scene. You know, we had Travis Steel on a

498
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Speaker 9: few weeks ago. They did a pan of Millet Hall

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Speaker 9: and just seeing all the fans there for their final

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Speaker 9: home game Senior Day, if you will, Travis Steel taking

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Speaker 9: the mic after the game.

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Speaker 1: I just really really cool.

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Speaker 9: So maamble Hio, one game away from a perfect regular

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Speaker 9: season at Ohio on Friday.

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Speaker 2: up in a moment, we'll talk more about the National

527
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Speaker 2: Football League and the Colts, what they did yesterday, how

528
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Speaker 2: it affects a lot of things. That's next on ninety

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Speaker 2: three five and one oh seven to five of the

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Speaker 2: Fan Kevin. We'll talk about NFL in about sixty seconds,

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Speaker 2: But very quickly just crossed my brain as I was

532
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Speaker 2: looking at highlights from last night's game, like and I

533
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Speaker 2: asked you, kind of who do you think is coming

534
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Speaker 2: out of the East and the NBA? And you thought

535
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Speaker 2: about it in a moment. I could tell by the

536
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Speaker 2: look on your face that you feel kind of like

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Speaker 2: I do, like kind of not my problem this.

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Speaker 1: Year, right you said it.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking that though it's true you said kind

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Speaker 2: of Nicks, I don't know, I have no idea. I

541
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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 9: Maybe I don't even know if I can name the

543
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Speaker 9: top four teams in the East right now, Like Standy's.

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Speaker 2: Was, it's because we're keeping an eye on the other

545
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Speaker 2: end of the standings right now. By the way, James,

546
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Speaker 2: you're ready for Wednesday, Tankathon.

547
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Speaker 1: Let's do it all right.

548
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Speaker 2: I'm throwing it in the machine and the twenty twenty

549
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Speaker 2: six NBA draft lottery simulator spits out Sacramento number one

550
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Speaker 2: with the number one overall pick, followed by Brooklyn and

551
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Speaker 2: then the Indiana Pacers at three.

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Speaker 1: It's a good day.

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Speaker 8: You'll take that, right, Yeah, certainly, I mean the alternatives

554
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Speaker 8: are certainly not as good as that. But I'm curious

555
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Speaker 8: to see how everyone feels about the order of the

556
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Speaker 8: draft board at this moment. It seems to have shifted.

557
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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 8: I believe the last guy for us at the Athletic

559
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Speaker 8: our draft Guru now has Ajdabanza as his number one prospect,

560
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Speaker 8: followed by Darren Peterson.

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Speaker 2: How about this, The teams that they're tracking right now,

562
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Speaker 2: like the bottom twelve. I'll say this, The bottom eleven

563
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Speaker 2: teams in the NBA right now have all at least

564
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Speaker 2: lost their last game, and multiple teams are on multiple

565
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Speaker 2: game losing streaks. The tanking is real, James.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they're tanking and they also stink, so

567
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Speaker 8: go hand in hand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yets have lost nine in a row, Pacers six

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Speaker 2: in a row, Washington six in a row, Utah six

570
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Speaker 2: in a row. Sacramento has only lost two in a row.

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Speaker 2: But you can see where this is all Hadden, So

572
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Speaker 2: we'll check that every morning. In the meantime we get

573
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Speaker 2: back to talk about the National Football League. I thought

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Speaker 2: that this text from Cody was very interesting. He is

575
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Speaker 2: a frequent participator in the group chat over there on

576
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Speaker 2: YouTube every morning, and he says, guys, if you want

577
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Speaker 2: a state of the union, all of us in the

578
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Speaker 2: chatter agreeing to become Raiders fans until ballad is gone. Lol.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Mendoza. Hopefully they draft one two more mid to

580
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Speaker 2: late round Hoosiers, Go Raiders.

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Speaker 9: James, why do you think six million dollars less transition

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Speaker 9: tag with no draft pick compensation in return versus the

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Speaker 9: franchise tag at forty three million with two first round

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Speaker 9: picks in return.

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Speaker 8: I think they want to draw a line in the

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Speaker 8: sand and say this is what we think you're worth.

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Speaker 8: And it's pretty much that simple. And we believe that

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Speaker 8: whatever market you think you have is not out there

589
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Speaker 8: because one, we helped kind of rehab your career. You're

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Speaker 8: the last player two or last team you to have

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Speaker 8: played with and you had half a good year and

592
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Speaker 8: it was with us. So if you're gonna run it

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Speaker 8: back or you know, get the bag, it probably won't

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Speaker 8: get too much sweeter than here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 8: I don't necessarily agree with that because I think that

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Speaker 8: if he's your guy, just stamp them with the nine

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Speaker 8: ascouotsa franchise tag. That way, you know no other team's

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Speaker 8: gonna poach him for two first round picks and you

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Speaker 8: move on from there. But I think they're just trying

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Speaker 8: to be a little greedy, I guess, or savvy perhaps

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Speaker 8: with trying to make sure they can use every single

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Speaker 8: dollar to their benefit this offseason, which I don't hate

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Speaker 8: them for because ultimately, if they get Daniel Jones to

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Speaker 8: come back on a new deal, if they get Alec

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Speaker 8: Pierce to come back on a new deal, we'll look

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Speaker 8: back and say they were genius just for doing this.

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Speaker 8: But I just don't know if it's worth the risk. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: That's that's where I'm at is.

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Speaker 9: The reward is not that immense really when you think

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Speaker 9: about it, you know you are saving six million dollars.

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Speaker 8: I wish I could save six million dollars, which in

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Speaker 8: NFL terms is really if anybody listening know, let's high

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Speaker 8: let you boy not that much here, and it's call

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Speaker 8: couch change.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, yesterday. Yeah, I mean certainly, especially when

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Speaker 1: the caps over three hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Does that go straight towards Alec Pierce? That's six million

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Speaker 2: dollars saving?

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean I think some of it obviously would

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Speaker 9: go towards whatever offer you're gonna throw Pierce's way. You're

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Speaker 9: gonna have to be, you know, super competitive and putting

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Speaker 9: your big boy pants on for that one. But also,

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Speaker 9: what else are you doing? You know, are you doing

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Speaker 9: the Trey Hendrickson thing? Are you doing one of these

627
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Speaker 9: ed thrushers? How much of the front seven are you retooling?

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Speaker 1: We've debated here. Is it two new starters in the

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Speaker 1: front seven?

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Speaker 9: Is it three new starters in the front seven? Well,

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Speaker 9: if you're doing that, then you're going to have to

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Speaker 9: spend so yeah, you know, that's where the pay pinching

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Speaker 9: I think comes into play. Is it's more of a

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Speaker 9: if we're gonna check off all these boxes, because yes,

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Speaker 9: Pierson Jones are the first two dominoes to the Colts offseason,

636
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Speaker 9: but they have plans to do a lot, then you

637
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Speaker 9: do have to save every little dollar. The question becomes

638
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Speaker 9: was the risk of you know, saying to Daniel Jones, hey,

639
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Speaker 9: we're gonna call your bluff at this transition tag. But

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Speaker 9: is there any part of you that says we should

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Speaker 9: have just tagged Alec Pierce and then we'll call Daniel

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Speaker 9: Jones's bluff and say, hey, show us where the long

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Speaker 9: term deal is gonna come. That's where I think you

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Speaker 9: can get into a little bit of debate here. The

645
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Speaker 9: cults are basically saying to Daniel Jones, we don't think

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Speaker 9: you're gonna find an offer north of thirty seven million.

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Speaker 9: That's where the transition tag comes into play. Well, it

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Speaker 9: could that also be the case for a long term deal,

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Speaker 9: and again, then you would have secured Pierce, because that's

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Speaker 9: now the unknown. I think so much of the unknown

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Speaker 9: has shifted to Alec Pierce. You are now allowed him

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Speaker 9: to listen, and you are now allowing him to make

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Speaker 9: the decision. And I get that out. Pierce, I think

654
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 9: has some reasons that he wants to be back here,

655
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 9: but also he's going to see some pretty good quarterback situations.

656
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 9: I would argue that are going to offer him a

657
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 9: nice chunk of change.

658
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: I think your hat is very appropriate today, Kevin. You've

659
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: got the big third down here hat on and it

660
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: feels like the Colts are looking at a big third

661
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: down here over the next week or so, doesn't it.

662
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I mean, Matt, Yeah, I guess to just

663
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 9: go over everything with people out there. You know, Monday

664
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 9: at noon is the next big deadline to watch, So

665
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 9: at any point, you know, in the next minute, all

666
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 9: the way up until Monday at noon, the Colts could

667
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 9: get a long term deal done with Pierce, keep him

668
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 9: out of free agency. They could also get a long

669
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 9: term deal done with Daniel Jones. Again, the transition tag

670
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 9: is just a placeholder, if you will, And that thirty

671
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 9: seven million counts against your cap right away, So the

672
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 9: Colts are enticed right now to try and still get

673
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 9: a long term deal done with Jones, So that thirty

674
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 9: seven million is not just sitting there in twenty twenty six,

675
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 9: you likely want that number to be lower. If I'm

676
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 9: not mistaken, I want to say the Colts are over

677
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 9: the cap as we sit here on this Wednesday morning. Yeah,

678
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 9: about five million dollars, which you have to be under

679
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 9: it by a week from today, isn't that right?

680
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: And then that's when the new league year starts. I

681
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: believe that is the case, yes, And.

682
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: That's adjusting for the recent increase in the cap too, right.

683
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: Yes, that is adjusting for everything.

684
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 8: I mean, once you put the tag on Daniel Jones,

685
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 8: that full thirty seven point eight million dollars as we'll

686
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 8: call it thirty eight, that full thirty eight million dollars

687
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 8: counts against your salary cap.

688
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: Came right out of the bank. Boom.

689
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, because you have to. I mean, we went through

690
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 8: this a few years ago with like the Lamar Jackson thing.

691
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 8: Whenever you want a whenever it's a fully guaranteed deal,

692
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 8: the money has to be put up right away.

693
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: So there you have.

694
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 9: But again, Lamar is different, and a lot of people

695
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 9: have asked this, James, why was Lamar different?

696
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 8: Well, Lamar was asking for like two hundred million dollars,

697
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 8: well guaranteed we Baltimore had placed the franchise tag on

698
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 8: him with the two first round picks.

699
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's the difference.

700
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 9: So if the Colts had gone the Colts went with

701
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 9: thirty seven million, thirty seven million, says we can match

702
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 9: any offer, but we don't get any draft picks in

703
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 9: return if you walk. If they had gone to forty

704
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 9: three million, then you would get the two first round picks.

705
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 9: If a team went to that level, which obviously you

706
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 9: would find that skeptical Minnesota continues to be that one

707
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 9: team of now they have to create the cap space.

708
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 9: But you know, is there a team out there that's

709
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 9: going to structure a contract in a very.

710
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: Unique way for Daniel Jones.

711
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 9: That's the one little hanging cloud I have over the

712
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 9: situation because there are a lot of teams that do

713
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 9: business differently than the Colts in the NFL.

714
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: A lot of teams.

715
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 8: Oh yes, And I think you make a good point

716
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 8: about the structure of the deal. I don't think it's

717
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 8: necessarily just about money. Money is a big part of it.

718
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 8: But yeah, if a team says we'll guarantee you fifty

719
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 8: million dollars in year one and spread you know, the

720
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 8: rest of your salary out over a three year deal,

721
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 8: the Colt's gonna.

722
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: Pay him fifty million dollars guaranteed.

723
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 9: Well, what if a team gives Daniel Zones a fully

724
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 9: guaranteed contract? Right, And again, that sounds outrageous to me

725
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 9: out loud.

726
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 12: It should be.

727
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 9: NFL teams are can be desperate.

728
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: And you talked about what the Bucks did with Damian

729
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: Lillard just to get Miles Turner.

730
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, different league, the same concept. I mean you.

731
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 8: That's why I was having a conversation actually yet yesterday

732
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 8: with Eddie Garrison through text, and he was texting me

733
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 8: about all the teams and different scenarios, and I just

734
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 8: told him, look, man, not that I'm some genius here,

735
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 8: but I've been covering the NFL for going on five

736
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 8: years now, and teams can get creative. And I have

737
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 8: talked to people in the league about this team side

738
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 8: and you know, player side or whatever. Trust me when

739
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 8: I tell you that the cap it doesn't mean nothing,

740
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 8: but it doesn't limit you in the way that you think.

741
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 8: So for the Colts, I feel like they're a very

742
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 8: traditional team. They operate within the salary cap in very

743
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 8: basic ways. But that is not always the case with

744
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 8: every team in the NFL, which is why I actually

745
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 8: think this offseason the Colts might have to be more

746
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 8: on that side of things where they might have to

747
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 8: not only get creative with the Daniel Jones deal Alec Pierce,

748
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 8: but also you mentioned Kevin. You know, are you moving

749
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 8: on from some guys that have been the core of

750
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 8: your team, but also are you restructuring some guys like

751
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 8: for example, is Michael Pitman Junior or somebody you're looking

752
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 8: at and saying your cap hit is twenty nine million

753
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 8: dollars next year, we would.

754
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: Like to have you.

755
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 8: How about restructure your deal and extend you? Is that

756
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 8: a possibility. I'm not saying that it's likely. I'm just

757
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 8: saying they have to think of things in that manner.

758
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 8: Quentin Nelson, do we extend you?

759
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 12: JT.

760
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Speaker 8: You're in a contract year. We understand that you're a

761
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 8: running back, but do we restructure and extend you as well?

762
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 8: Because we're putting everything into this year next year? So

763
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 8: those are the conversations that have to be had, and

764
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 8: quite honestly, these are not easy decisions until you get

765
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 8: everything done with Daniel followed by Alec Pierce.

766
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 9: Michael Pittman Jr. Ziar Franklin, Kenny Moore the second. Those

767
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 9: are the three names I'll keep on coming back to.

768
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 9: Are all three of them here next year? That's to

769
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 9: me what a lot of these next handful of days

770
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 9: are going to be about. It's obviously do you get

771
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 9: things done with Jones and Peers, but also do you

772
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 9: have to create more room and can you strictly do

773
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 9: that in the restructure format? Ideally, yes, but that's not

774
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 9: an absolute given.

775
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this and correct me if I'm wrong.

776
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: But it feels like the pattern for Chris Ballard guys

777
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: has been don't do anything until you have to do it.

778
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: He likes to let the clock run on a lot

779
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: of these things. Is that correct? Like he's even said

780
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: that to it.

781
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: At some point.

782
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 9: I mean yesterday, what the announcement was three or five?

783
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 9: But the thing is you now have thrown the clock

784
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 9: and handed it to Alec Pierce. That's what yesterday's move.

785
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 9: That's probably the biggest element of yesterday's decisions by the Colts.

786
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 9: By tagging Daniel Jones, they said to Alec Pierce, you

787
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 9: make the call like you are allowed to now pick

788
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 9: where you want to go. Again, you could have tagged

789
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 9: either of the player yesterday. The question that we debated

790
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 9: all throughout yesterday's show was a you know, who is

791
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 9: easier to sign to a long term deal and also

792
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 9: be positional importance to a lot of people. You know,

793
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 9: obviously quarterback and wide out are different, but you know,

794
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 9: Pierson Jones are also different from a player aspect, And honestly,

795
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 9: one thing the Colts did say yesterday they pretty much

796
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 9: said what a lot of Colts fans have said about

797
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 9: Daniel Jones.

798
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: We like you, we don't love you.

799
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 9: That's what the Colts pretty much said. And there are

800
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 9: reasons for that. Obviously. He has injury history, he has

801
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 9: inconsistencies as a player. There are reasons for that, so

802
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 9: I fully understand. But again by doing that, you now

803
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 9: have opened up a little bit of risk, probably more

804
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 9: so with Pierce than Jones. But if a couple of

805
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 9: NFL teams come in there with massive offers, then the

806
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 9: Colts are gonna have to strap up.

807
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: Here are some of the wide receivers that are also

808
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: going to be available, James Juwan Jennings, Wandel Robinson, Deebo,

809
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: Samuel tyreek Hill coming off the gruesome knee injury, Rashid

810
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: Shaheed who was electric down the stretch for Seattle, Mike Evans,

811
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: who I don't think is going anywhere, Romeo Dubbs, keenan Allen,

812
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: Marquise Brown, Christian Kirk, Calvin Austen, Jalen Naylor that goes

813
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: all the way down to Kendrick Bourne, Sterling Shepard. A

814
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: lot of wide receivers out on the market right now,

815
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: but are they Alec Pierce with the game breaking speed

816
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: and the ability to make tough catches over over just

817
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: about anything of it.

818
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 8: Last year, Yeah, I was gonna say, the Colts don't

819
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 8: want any of those guys over Alec Pierce. So it's

820
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 8: Alec Pierce and then perhaps Jeff, if you get rid

821
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 8: of my junior. You're looking back at that list saying

822
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 8: who can be a perhaps a secondary wide receiver two

823
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 8: for us? Because that would become an instant need. A

824
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 8: Pittman isn't here. I love Josh Downs. I think he's

825
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 8: a good player. I don't think that he can be

826
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 8: a wide receiver two.

827
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, Kevin. If it comes

828
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: down to money and you got to make decisions, and

829
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: they're already over the cap as we sit here this morning,

830
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: if it came down to a decision of where you

831
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: spend your money and it's a guy like you have

832
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: a real shot and you like the way things have

833
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: gone with Trey Hendrickson in his camp versus Alex Pearce,

834
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: can you do both or do you kind of have

835
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: to make your mind up about one given what the

836
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: cost is going to be.

837
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, to do both, you're gonna have to again do

838
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 9: some restructuring, maybe even cutting of some veterans. We did

839
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 9: see a news item yesterday about Kyler Murray and his

840
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 9: time done with Arizona.

841
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: Twenty five million dollar cheaper.

842
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 9: If I said that about Kyler Murray, would you rather

843
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 9: have Kyler Murray at twenty five million dollars cheaper Daniel Jones?

844
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: This makes me not popular, but I think in the

845
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: right situation, Kyler Murray can be a pretty good quarterback.

846
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: Do I think he's going to be elite, No, but

847
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: I think he can be a pretty good quarterback in

848
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: the right situation. I don't think Arizona was a good

849
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: situation for him.

850
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 8: I think money wise, I probably roll with Kyler, and

851
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 8: health wise he's not coming off of torn Achilles. But

852
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 8: at the same time, the Colts want Daniel Jones. They

853
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 8: trust him, they trust his work ethic, and that is

854
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 8: one of the things that came over with Kyler Murray

855
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 8: in Arizona. And I can tell you right now that

856
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 8: is not something that any team will want to perhaps

857
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 8: inherent inherent I'm sorry if they already have somebody that

858
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 8: they love over him. So I mean, if you look

859
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 8: back at all of the comments the Colts have painted

860
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 8: themselves into this corner because of how much they've talked

861
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 8: about and profusely praised Daniel Jones.

862
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: But Kyler, I get it in theory.

863
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 8: But the other flip side of it, Kevin, is the

864
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 8: Colts do not want to start over again at quarterback,

865
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 8: which is what you be doing.

866
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 9: I do think the Kyler news helps the Colts in

867
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 9: that potentially a team like Minnesota or a team out

868
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 9: there that maybe would have sat there in a meeting

869
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 9: room and said, is there any way we could formulate

870
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 9: some sort of offer sheet for Dana Jones.

871
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Maybe they now.

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Speaker 9: Pivot and say, let's look at the situation here with

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Speaker 9: Kyler Murty Mark. Did our one O seven five signal dropout?

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Speaker 11: Might be both of them? Actually, boy, So I'm currently

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Speaker 11: dealing with stuff. Looks like the monumental amount of rain

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Speaker 11: causing some issues. I've been told this is the third

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Speaker 11: this morning, so we're having some transmitter issues.

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Speaker 9: Apologies on that. Obviously, if you're hearing this, you're probably

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Speaker 9: already listening to us. But YouTube stream we have the

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Speaker 9: and for those that are sticking with us, mark about

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Speaker 9: a four pack tonight? Oh Surefield House, six o'clock, Butler

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Speaker 1: You could have a.

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Speaker 9: Couple of beers and a nice little dinner and you

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Speaker 9: Hinklfield House Tonight, six o'clock tip for that one.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to talk my oldest son into going

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Speaker 2: out there with me. You know, he's committed to Butler,

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Speaker 2: so maybe he's excited to go something like that.

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Speaker 9: Now you said committed, like if all of a sudden

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Speaker 9: another school comes calling, then maybe he wouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: Are they give him enough?

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Speaker 1: They ca a transition tag soft commit our hard commitment.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I'm a very happy Butler guy

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Speaker 2: right now because he earned a terrific academic scholarship. I'm

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Speaker 1: So in that regard, Yeah, that's Greg McDermott. Sweeten's that

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Speaker 1: pot tonight.

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Speaker 2: You never know, you know, his aunt went to Creyton.

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Speaker 2: You never know A look at this you never know,

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Speaker 2: you never know, all right, So get us on the

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Speaker 2: text line at two through nine, ten seventy, you get

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Speaker 2: your four pack for the game tonight. JMB will be

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from Hinklefield House this evening, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: turn it over to uh the guys at five thirty.

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Speaker 2: The game starts at six, and then we got a

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Speaker 2: lot of basketball. You want to stay home a watch

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Speaker 2: TV man. You got doubleheader on BTN with Indiana followed

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Speaker 2: by Purdue, So lots of great college basketball tonight, and

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Speaker 2: of course Kevin Waiting up two screens tonight. You'll start

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Speaker 2: at nine with Stanford Notre Dame, and then you go

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Speaker 2: at ten thirty to the Pacers.

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Speaker 9: Right, probably more like eleven. I gotta watch Notre Dame

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Speaker 9: Stanford all the way through. Okay, speaking of one of

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Speaker 9: those guys, the great Nick Gardner, ninety three point five

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Speaker 9: is working.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Matt Weaver as well for that.

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Speaker 9: So it sounds like ninety three point five a little

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Speaker 9: better than one o seven point five this morning, So

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Speaker 9: apologies on that.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's what's happening in the world of sports,

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Speaker 2: the world of the ninety three five and one oh

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Speaker 2: seven five the fan coming up. In a moment, Stephen

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Speaker 2: Holder stops by to offer his thoughts on the Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones transition tag, signing It's all next on ninety three

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Speaker 2: five and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 3: You know you were listening to the morning show on sports Dat.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome back. We hope you're find a way to

934
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Speaker 2: listen to us this morning, as we've had some signal

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Speaker 2: issues on the one oh seven five signal and they're

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Speaker 2: working hard to get that underway, but ninety three five

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Speaker 2: oh seven five, thefan dot Com, on the app, at YouTube,

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Speaker 2: all kinds of places to get this content. Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 2: James Boyd, Mark Dyke, and I'm jeff Rickord and we

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Speaker 2: bring in our first guest of the morning. And he

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Speaker 2: might as well just be a co host too, he's

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Speaker 2: here all the time. Stephen Holder ESPN joined us on

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Speaker 2: the Payless Lickers Hotline. Good morning, mister Holder. How you

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Speaker 2: doing today?

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Speaker 13: I'm doing well. We'll see what today brings, but so far,

947
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Speaker 13: so good.

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Speaker 2: What did yesterday bring in your opinion for the Indianapolis Colts? Good? Bad?

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Speaker 2: Or let's wait and see.

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Speaker 13: Just really just necessary evil? You know, it wasn't anything

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Speaker 13: to celebrate necessarily, but it was just what she had

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Speaker 13: to do. It's just business. I think the transition tag

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Speaker 13: it's a little spicy. It makes things interesting, you know,

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Speaker 13: it invites some by for Daniel Jones to go make

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Speaker 13: an offer. I'm not predicting it, but you can't close

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Speaker 13: the door on the possibility. I think really what you

957
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Speaker 13: saw yesterday was what I expected, which is just the

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Speaker 13: Colts are in the middle of negotiations and they're still ongoing,

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Speaker 13: and that won't change based on anything that happened yesterday,

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Speaker 13: but it was at least a recognition that, you know,

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Speaker 13: we have work to do.

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Speaker 8: I think, Stephen, why do you think the Colts tagged

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Speaker 8: Daniel Jones over Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 1: That has been a big debate here for our listeners.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I've picked up on that among readers and listeners, and

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Speaker 13: I understand why there's a question. I do. I think

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Speaker 13: that's a fair question, but I don't actually think they

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Speaker 13: got it wrong. And really it boils down to you

970
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Speaker 13: have to first you have to first accept this, whether

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Speaker 13: you agree or disagree, they have settled on Daniel Jones

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Speaker 13: as their guy at quarterback. Now you can disagree with

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Speaker 13: that premise, that's fine. I don't necessarily care. I'm just

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Speaker 13: giving you the facts, right. The facts are they have

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Speaker 13: settled on Daniel Jones. So if that's the case, you

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Speaker 13: have to apply positional value to this debate. And the

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Speaker 13: positional value is, without question, quarterback over receiver. You have

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Speaker 13: to protect the quarterback. I am not telling you that

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Speaker 13: it's going to be cheap to keep Alec Pearce. It

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Speaker 13: will be cheaper, but they will not be cheap, and

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Speaker 13: there will be more suitors. As far as I can tell,

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Speaker 13: there will be more, potentially significantly more suitors for Alec

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Speaker 13: Pearce than Daniel Jones. But here's the deal. Ultimately, if

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Speaker 13: you retain it, if you retain Alec Pearce and Daniel

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Speaker 13: Jones squeaks away from you, slips away, where are you at? Quarterback?

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Speaker 13: And what is even the point? What are we even

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Speaker 13: doing here?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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Speaker 13: You got to take the quarterback. And I mean, anybody

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Speaker 13: who's watched the Indianapolis Colts for the last five or

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Speaker 13: six years, I kind of don't understand why we're having

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Speaker 13: that conversation. To be completely honest with you, Like, the

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Speaker 13: quarterback's kind of important. You can agree, you can disagree

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Speaker 13: on the quarterback, but you can't disagree on the fact

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Speaker 13: that they have to settle that position.

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Speaker 1: Steven is always thank you for the time.

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Speaker 9: I do want to get to Pierce in just a

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Speaker 9: second specifically, but you mentioned the spicy transition tag six

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Speaker 9: million dollars. Basically the difference in the transition tag and

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Speaker 9: the franchise tag, the six million dollar risk they're taking

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Speaker 9: because they think thirty seven million is more of Daniel

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Speaker 9: Jones's actual value, or they need every last penny to

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Speaker 9: get everything done they feel necessary this offseason.

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Speaker 13: So part of I think part of what's happening here

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Speaker 13: is just to be talking one years. It's this, if

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Speaker 13: you go with the franchise tag, and I'm not saying

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Speaker 13: it's the right call, but I'm given maybe some possible rationale.

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Speaker 13: If you go with the franchise tag, what you are

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Speaker 13: doing is you are then starting the multi year contract

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Speaker 13: discussion at what is it, forty four million, I believe,

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Speaker 13: So at that point, what you're doing is you're saying,

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Speaker 13: all right, if we sign him to a three year deal,

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Speaker 13: we're signaling to his camp, Well, the starting point is

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Speaker 13: forty four million, very clearly, right, now they are not

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Speaker 13: at forty four million per year for Daniel Jones. And

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Speaker 13: I know my colleague Adam Schefter specifically said that there

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Speaker 13: is a disagreement over value right now. He said that yesterday,

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Speaker 13: I believe on Macafee's show, and I think that that's

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Speaker 13: kind of what I figured, right, they are haggling over

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Speaker 13: what is the value. I think it's a complicated situation,

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Speaker 13: given the injury, given his history up and down through

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Speaker 13: his career, all of that. Right, So if you then

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Speaker 13: go with the franchise tag, you're then saying, look, we're

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Speaker 13: going to continue talking. But the starting point if I'm

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Speaker 13: Daniel Jones agent at that point is okay, so forty

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Speaker 13: four million a year and let's start from there. Well,

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Speaker 13: that's not the conversation the Colts are trying to have.

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Speaker 1: Regards to Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 9: You've been all over this, just the desire for the

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Speaker 9: stability at quarterback. Obviously, now with him free to choose

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Speaker 9: where he goes, I have a feeling his market could

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Speaker 9: include some teams that you could make an argument have

1033
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Speaker 9: a much more stable situation at quarterback. How much of

1034
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Speaker 9: that do you think will be a factor in Pierce

1035
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Speaker 9: ultimately choosing his home because of course, you know, the

1036
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Speaker 9: Colts aren't in a position where they can just match

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Speaker 9: like with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 13: Right, So a couple things. Number One, he did talk

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Speaker 13: about wanting to if he came back here, wanting to

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Speaker 13: play with Daniel Jones. He said that at the conclusion

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Speaker 13: of the season.

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Speaker 12: Now, my.

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Speaker 13: Sort of emphasis on that is not just based on that,

1044
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Speaker 13: It's also based on conversations in recent days. Alec Pierce

1045
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Speaker 13: wants the quarterback situation here settled before he signs. That

1046
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Speaker 13: was made very clear to me. So that's the first thing.

1047
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Speaker 13: Now as you apply that to other teams, that is true.

1048
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Speaker 13: There's no question that he could have some superior quarterback situations,

1049
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Speaker 13: and you know, potentially at least. I mean, I think

1050
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Speaker 13: Buffalo comes to mind. I don't know if they've made

1051
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Speaker 13: any overtures and what their number would be. I have

1052
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Speaker 13: no idea, but I think it's it's a pretty obvious

1053
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Speaker 13: connection to make, and there's some other ones as well,

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Speaker 13: But I agree, I do think that right now, I

1055
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Speaker 13: think Alec Paris wants to come back right now. The

1056
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Speaker 13: problem is the longer he sits out there and the

1057
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Speaker 13: more he's able to entertain and be courted by other teams.

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Speaker 13: The easier it becomes to see yourself in a different uniform.

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Speaker 13: Now we're not there yet. I don't think there's anything

1060
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Speaker 13: for fans to panic about or anything like that, but

1061
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Speaker 13: you know, we are what we're a few days away.

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Speaker 13: On Monday, he can speak to other teams, or at

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Speaker 13: least his agent can. And at that point, now you're

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Speaker 13: getting tangible offers. You're not talking hypothetically anymore. Now you

1065
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Speaker 13: can you can write it down on paper and you

1066
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Speaker 13: can slide it across the table and you can say,

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Speaker 13: how about that?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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Speaker 13: And so that makes it more real. So I just

1070
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Speaker 13: think that's the issue for the Colts. I think that's

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Speaker 13: really I'm not saying it's their deadline, but that's I

1072
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Speaker 13: think what you're trying to avoid. You don't want him

1073
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Speaker 13: to get to that situation, because then the odds of

1074
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Speaker 13: losing him become very real.

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Speaker 12: Again.

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Speaker 8: We're speaking to ESPN's Steven Holder, their Colts reporter and Stephen,

1077
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Speaker 8: why would he sign before Monday?

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Speaker 1: Like, is there any instinctive on his part?

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Speaker 13: I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't. I think, in fact, I

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Speaker 13: will tell you, I can tell you for a fact,

1081
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Speaker 13: that the likelihood of him taking this to next week

1082
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Speaker 13: went up infinitely yesterday. I mean, I'm expecting it at

1083
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Speaker 13: this point, and I mean the TAG decision was always

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Speaker 13: going to be huge in terms of how he proceeded

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Speaker 13: for obvious reasons, right, I mean, there is no incentive

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Speaker 13: for him to sign ahead of time. That is absolutely true.

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00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 13: The only the only way it happens is if I

1088
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 13: don't know what their offer is now. I don't know

1089
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 13: where they're at. I'm not going to speak to that.

1090
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 13: But the only plausible thing that could happen that would

1091
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 13: change the calculus is if they had a dramatically different offer.

1092
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 13: And if you're alec Pears, you just want to get

1093
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 13: it done now, that could happen, but it's probably not

1094
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 13: the best business decision.

1095
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Speaker 8: I mean, a million i'd sign right away.

1096
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 13: Well yeah, everybody's sign right, but but I anticipate that

1097
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 13: it goes to next week at this point. Yes, And honestly, look,

1098
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 13: I don't know if it's It may not be the

1099
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 13: smartest thing for the Colts in the end, because you're

1100
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 13: gonna let You're gonna let other teams now negotiate for you, right,

1101
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 13: I mean, if you are the Colts. You're gonna end

1102
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 13: up having to match somebody else's offer to Alec pears

1103
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 13: you know, because he can't sign until next Wednesday, a

1104
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 13: week from today. But he can get those offers in

1105
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 13: him and you can take them back to the Colts

1106
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 13: and be like, hey, Team X says I'm worth thirty

1107
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 13: million a year, which is not out of the question,

1108
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 13: by the way, from what we have been hearing glastew days.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, And to follow up to that, Steven, how

1110
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 8: much do you think this song and dance with Daniel

1111
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 8: Jones and with Alec Pearce will perhaps influence how the

1112
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 8: rest of your moves are made?

1113
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: And does it put sort of like a hold on

1114
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: what else you can do?

1115
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 8: Because, as you mentioned, free agency begins next week and

1116
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 8: so it's not just about trying to get a long

1117
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 8: term deal done with Daniel Jones and retaining Alec Pierce.

1118
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: There's other flaws and areas of need for this team.

1119
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 8: But can any of that get done before those two

1120
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 8: guys are settled?

1121
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean you do need some clarity. I do

1122
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 13: agree with that, or at least it would help to

1123
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 13: have some clarity. I think the Colts are first off,

1124
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 13: I mean they have already crunched all the numbers. You know,

1125
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 13: we can rest assured they have crunched all the numbers

1126
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 13: and gone through all the contingencies and dotted all the

1127
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 13: eyes and across the t's, et cetera. That has happened.

1128
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 13: There's no question in my mind. They're good at that

1129
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 13: part of it, right. They They managed the cap as

1130
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 13: well as anybody, you know, perhaps better than most other teams.

1131
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 13: So they will position themselves to do what they need

1132
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 13: to do. Now the question is how much are they

1133
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 13: willing to do? And that, by the way, includes the

1134
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 13: Michael Pittman situation. I don't know where it's going, but

1135
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 13: I mean, I think it has to be addressed. You

1136
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 13: have other deals like I mean, you could extend Quinton Nelson. Frankly,

1137
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 13: you could have done that yesterday. I think that that

1138
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 13: could have been done months ago, frankly. So I think

1139
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 13: things like that can be done, and you can squeeze

1140
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 13: out quite a bit of cap space. I will say

1141
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 13: the Combine said to me from my conversations that the

1142
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 13: defense with some targeted signings on defense, and frankly, Chris

1143
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 13: Ballard said this, I would look for some targeted signings

1144
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 13: on defense. I think it's actually going to be a

1145
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 13: pretty active free agency period for the Colts. That's what

1146
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 13: I'm anticipating, and and I have heard. I was told

1147
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 13: very specifically that Carli ers A Gordon uh is willing

1148
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 13: to be active in free agency this year and that

1149
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 13: you should expect that.

1150
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: Steven.

1151
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 9: Last one from me. Let me throw some names at you.

1152
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 9: Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman, Junior Ziar, Franklin, Kenny Moore. Those

1153
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 9: four Pittman, Pierce, Franklin Moore. How many are back in September?

1154
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 13: That's a tricky one. I think there's a scenario where

1155
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 13: they're all back. But but I think Pittman plays in

1156
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 13: a lower number. If he's going to be here, I

1157
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 13: think you just have to.

1158
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 9: Would you rather say three? Would you bet three back

1159
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 9: or four back? What would you be more confident in

1160
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 9: all four or three?

1161
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 12: Yeah? I guesscha.

1162
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 13: I think I think all four. I think all four.

1163
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 13: I mean I think with Kenny, Kenny's an interesting one.

1164
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 13: He has, he has, you know, versatility. They're going to

1165
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 13: be probably losing that cross, you know, I think you

1166
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 13: could you could still make a lot. You can still

1167
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 13: do a lot with Kenny Moore, on your team. And

1168
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 13: I mean, frankly, the money's fine. I don't think it's

1169
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 13: it's anything ridiculous. So I think you keep Kenny Moore,

1170
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 13: Zire Franklin in the grand scheme, not a ton of money,

1171
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 13: and and that position is just so barren right now.

1172
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 13: I think it helps him. I am not suggesting that

1173
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 13: that he had a great season, but I just think

1174
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 13: the cover being so bare at that position does help him.

1175
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 13: So we will see if they can protect him and

1176
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 13: get a more athletic guy playing beside him. It makes

1177
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 13: it more digestible. But but they got to have that

1178
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 13: for him to be effective.

1179
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 12: I think.

1180
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: I think, if we're fans, we just want Daniel Jones Simon,

1181
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: we went Alec Pierce back, we want Pittman on a

1182
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: reduced number. We want the other guys to longer term contracts. No,

1183
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: by the way, let's go get Trey Hendrickson too. I mean,

1184
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 2: that's what that's all we want, right.

1185
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 13: Sure, that's it, that's it. I do think the one

1186
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 13: day splashy ish signing they could make is a defensive

1187
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 13: end that if they make one, it'll be a defensive end.

1188
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 13: And I'm not saying it's Trey Hendrickson. In fact, I'm

1189
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 13: not banking on that. I do think though, like who

1190
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 13: is this year is justin Houston, that was just such

1191
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 13: a great signing. I don't know, it's been like six

1192
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 13: years now, but I think their best moves at defensive

1193
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 13: end have been free agents, and I think they should

1194
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 13: follow that path this year and then fill in the

1195
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 13: rest with those second tier free agents and govin there.

1196
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: And as Susan points out on the text line, we

1197
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: haven't even talked about Nick Cross yet. I liked what

1198
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: he did last year. Can they even keep him under

1199
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: all these scenarios.

1200
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 13: I love Nick Cross. I don't see that he's here

1201
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 13: next year, and it's it's nothing personal. I think he's

1202
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 13: going to get a very lucrative offer and I think

1203
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 13: he's gonna have to take it. Though, you know, I

1204
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 13: liken this to the Bobby o'carake situation a few years ago.

1205
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 13: There was no question that Bobby was a great player

1206
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 13: and you budding like Pro Bowl type of player, But

1207
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 13: I just didn't have it in the budget, and it

1208
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 13: was for them a position where they could find a replacement,

1209
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 13: and they did, and so they let him walk. It

1210
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 13: wasn't anything personal, I said, the same thing with Nick Cross.

1211
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 13: You've got those two young twenty twenty five rookies who

1212
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 13: were hurt last year, Wally and Roller, for example, who

1213
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 13: come into play. We have talked among ourselves. Maybe there's

1214
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 13: Kenny more factor in it as a possible safety. I

1215
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 13: could see that that is totally.

1216
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 12: Possible, right.

1217
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 13: I don't know. So you have options there, and I

1218
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 13: don't think you have to force a big time money

1219
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 13: signing at strong safety, which is a low value position,

1220
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 13: even though Nick Cross is a very good player.

1221
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: Steven Holder always great to pick your brain, always good

1222
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: to have you around. Hope you have a terrific Wednesday,

1223
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you soon.

1224
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 13: All right, I'll see you, guys.

1225
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: There is Steven Holder joining us on the pay Lessliquers

1226
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: hotline right there. Yeah, we just want it all. If

1227
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: we're fans, we wanted all. We want it now. I

1228
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: think Robbie Bee speaks for a lot of people, though,

1229
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: guys and Kevin, I'll kind of throw his question to you.

1230
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: He says, how are we assigning value to Daniel Jones?

1231
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: Basically jobless to one your fourteen million dollars now we're

1232
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: talking close to forty million a year post achilles tear.

1233
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Help me understand how he's worth

1234
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: more than a new washer dryer in his current state.

1235
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 9: Well, he plays quarterback. That's probably where you would start. Two.

1236
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 9: He showed a good level of football for you last season,

1237
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 9: and he did it in a contract year. Obviously, the

1238
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 9: torn achilles is something that matters here. But you know,

1239
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 9: the Colts are backed into a corner. They don't have

1240
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 9: two first round picks. Yeah, for sure, Anthony Richardson is

1241
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 9: seemingly gone. So that is how you get to the

1242
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 9: level that Daniel Jones is at right now. Part of

1243
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 9: it's just NFL business, period. But again, the Colts said

1244
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 9: yesterday Daniel Jones, we like you, we don't love you.

1245
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 9: That's that's what they said, which I think there's reasons

1246
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 9: to obviously have some skins.

1247
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 8: And they went, you know, back to alb Piers and they say, oh,

1248
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 8: wait a second, we don't we like her, we don't

1249
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 8: love her. But shoo baby, you know, just just just

1250
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 8: stay right here and you know we'll how let you later.

1251
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: I do not gonna work.

1252
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 9: What one Pierce question I have is like, again, he

1253
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 9: wants stability at quarterback?

1254
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Yeah?

1255
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 9: What does that mean, Like, is Daniel Jones really that

1256
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 9: I look at a.

1257
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 8: Team, if we are being factual, he is not a

1258
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 8: exactly a stable quarterback in any NFL.

1259
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 9: I'm not using the Merrion Webster Webster's dictionaries, not offering

1260
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 9: that it's the definition there. And I look at teams

1261
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 9: that have cap space right now, the Chargers have a

1262
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 9: ton of it.

1263
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert Alec Pierce.

1264
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 9: Enticing would seem to be enticing if I were the

1265
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 9: Chargers there. So that is the biggest Honestly, what I

1266
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 9: walk away from yesterday is now you've left the decision

1267
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 9: up to Alec Pierce.

1268
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: That is the.

1269
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 9: Biggest Probably the biggest news item from yesterday is the

1270
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 9: ball is in his court. And I don't know if

1271
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 9: people fully realize. We can debate how great of a

1272
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 9: white out Pierce is. He has the most unique trait

1273
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 9: as a home run hitter. And those guys, particularly at

1274
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 9: the age of twenty five, particularly with no serious injury history,

1275
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 9: they rarely get to the open market. They rarely get

1276
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 9: to the open market, and now one is getting there.

1277
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 9: So what does that mean?

1278
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: Ryan's got one for you? JB. Keep talking about being

1279
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 2: active in free agency, but we are broke, all these

1280
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: things cannot happen.

1281
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, as we lay it out, you got to

1282
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 8: restructure some guys, you gotta cut some guys, and you

1283
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 8: got to get some deals settled with Daniel Jones or

1284
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 8: Alec Pierce. So it is possible. I mean, there's a

1285
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 8: few teams that are over the cap right now. It

1286
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 8: just won't be the reality when they try to, you know,

1287
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 8: get down to nady gritty. So I think the first

1288
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 8: domino to fall is trying to figure out what happens

1289
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 8: with Daniel Jones, followed by Alec Pierce, and then from

1290
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 8: there it's on.

1291
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 11: You got to figure out how to reto your roster.

1292
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 11: The Sailor cap isn't real. Restructure some deals, push some

1293
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 11: money around. It's been real for the.

1294
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 9: Colts, and we have to acknowledge that, like that's what

1295
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 9: we aren't living in New Orleans' market, where New Orleans

1296
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 9: normally operates in a different animal with they can escrow

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Speaker 9: and how much they can you know, really frontload a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of this right now.

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Speaker 9: And I'll go back to what I asked ste to

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Speaker 9: answer my own question. Pittman, Pierce, Franklin Moore, how many

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Speaker 9: of those four are back. I would not say all four.

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Speaker 9: I would disagree with Stephen on that.

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Speaker 2: How many would you say?

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Speaker 1: I probably would sit with three, but yeah, I say

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Speaker 1: half of that. I say two, I will go with.

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Speaker 9: I might be closer to two than I am the

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Speaker 9: four if I'm going to continue to play this game out.

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Speaker 9: It's just I mean, technically, right now, they're over the cap,

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Speaker 9: like they are four million dollars over the cap. And

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Speaker 9: how much is Alex Pierce gonna warrant?

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Speaker 12: Thirty?

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Speaker 9: So if you want to get Pierce done, not even

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Speaker 9: saying go give Trey Hendrickson this contract, Go give a

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Speaker 9: Dafeoway this contract.

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Speaker 1: You've got to create room.

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Speaker 9: Again, you can take the thirty seven million dollar transition

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Speaker 9: tag for Daniel Jones and you can sign him to

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Speaker 9: a two or three year deal. And that thirty seven

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01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 9: million dollar cap that that's currently there for twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 9: that could change. But listen to Stephen, just describe the

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Speaker 9: Daniel Jones situation. Clearly, these two parties are not there

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Speaker 9: on the long term deal.

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Speaker 8: So and again I will stand on the soapbox and say,

1324
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Speaker 8: as a player, you should never.

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Speaker 1: Give a discount.

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Speaker 8: Why would he? People are like, well, he resurrected his

1327
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Speaker 8: career here. He doesn't really want to win. Tom Brady

1328
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Speaker 8: took the less. Why is it always when we mentioned this,

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Speaker 8: you mentioned Tom Brady and like Patrick Mahomes two players

1330
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Speaker 8: over the last twenty years. I mean Matthew Stafford has

1331
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Speaker 8: gotten paid and is one big I mean, hey, when

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Speaker 8: you're a player and you know how cutthroat the league is,

1333
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 8: the league will always and a team will always cut

1334
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 8: you as soon as your play declines. So if the

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Speaker 8: Colts have put themselves in a position where again I

1336
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 8: don't agree necessarily that Daniel Jones is like their future quarterback,

1337
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 8: but if they put themselves in a position where they

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01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 8: have no other options, no first round picks, Anthony Richison

1339
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 8: wants out. Riley Lennard played in two games last year,

1340
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Speaker 8: and unless he's Tom Brady two point zero, he is

1341
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 8: not going to be a starter in this league. Then

1342
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 8: you have to pay up for Daniel Jones. It is

1343
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 8: what it is, all right.

1344
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 2: Having said that, we'll talk more about in a moment.

1345
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Speaker 2: From a national perspective, what does Matt Verderram, a Sports

1346
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: Illustrated think as he covers the NFL and free agency

1347
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, we'll talk to him in a moment.

1348
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Speaker 2: Right now, Mark, let's check it down.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, he's been talking about it all morning long. The

1355
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: Colts have put the transition tag on Daniel Jones. First

1356
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: time a quarterback has gotten that since nineteen ninety six,

1357
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: when a young man named Jeff George got it from

1358
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons.

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01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: James Boys, I remember it vividly.

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Speaker 8: I was one year old and I was like a

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 8: lot of money. Yeah, way back in the day. I'm

1362
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 8: like Mike Chappell the Dean. But I was looking at

1363
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 8: that Jeff, and they said that the tag back then

1364
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 8: was three million, and now it is thirty seven point eight.

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Speaker 8: The NFL has done pretty well for itself.

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Speaker 2: I think they have done very well for themselves. Just

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01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: for those of us now joining, We've had some signal

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01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: issues on one oh seven to five the fan, but

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01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: we've got everything else up and running. Kevin, what does

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Speaker 2: this mean for the Colts in the immediate.

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Speaker 9: Well, the next five days are going to be bleeper.

1372
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 9: Get off the pot. That's what it means. So basically,

1373
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 9: Daniel Jones, by giving him the thirty seven million dollar

1374
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 9: transition tag, you have the right of first refusal. So yes,

1375
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 9: another team could throw an offer sheet to Daniel Jones

1376
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 9: that theoretically would be attractive, and if the Colts want

1377
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 9: to keep him, then they have to match said offer sheet.

1378
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 9: And again no draft pick compensation would come in return

1379
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 9: to the Colts if he were to walk to another team.

1380
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 9: As in regards to Alec Pierce, he is now a

1381
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 9: free agent in the sense of officially. Monday is when

1382
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 9: you can start to legally tamper. I say that in quotes,

1383
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 9: but it's his decision. You can only use one tag

1384
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 9: the Colts used on Daniel Jones, So that means Alec

1385
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 9: Pierce can decide where he's playing football here in twenty

1386
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 9: twenty six and beyond.

1387
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: All right, Eric, I'm sorry, Rex, just texting in say light.

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: Year right there, saying Andrew Joni and beyond.

1389
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: I'll run around in this studio, Rex pointing out on

1390
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: the text line that one O seven to five to

1391
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: the fan is back on loud and clear. So we

1392
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: got that up and running. No transition tag on one

1393
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: of seven five to fan Oh.

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Speaker 1: We had our business. Apologies but thank you Rex for

1395
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: that all right.

1396
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: Also, Trey Hendrickson announced the Bengals will not be pursuing him.

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01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: He is going to hit the open market. What are

1398
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: the chances, James, what are the chances for a Trey

1399
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: Hendrickson or someone like that.

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Speaker 8: I do think he gets a realistic target for the Colts.

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01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 8: Now that is with the caveat that you get things

1402
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 8: done with Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce. But I know

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01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 8: we've talked a lot on these airwaves about the comments

1404
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 8: from Chris Ballad about being younger and faster. I followed

1405
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 8: up with that at the combine and he told us, yeah,

1406
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 8: there is a balance there, and I think the balance

1407
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 8: is production. You don't want to just go out and

1408
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 8: get young guys who could be something. I think they're

1409
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 8: at this point with how you've kind of faltered at

1410
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 8: the edge position.

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01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: Maybe instead of going to get.

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Speaker 8: Guys who could be something, you go get the guys

1413
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Speaker 8: who did it.

1414
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: And I get that he.

1415
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 8: Has injury issues and an injury history recently, but when healthy.

1416
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 8: Trey Hendrickson has been a baller.

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01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 11: I'm also curious what his market will be because obviously

1418
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 11: there's the Max Crosby.

1419
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: Suit point going on.

1420
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 11: But like I feel like guy teams that are needing

1421
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 11: pass rush they're gonna look at him and say, well,

1422
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 11: wait a minute, I don't have to give up any

1423
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 11: draft capital, just money.

1424
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: Well we can do that. Yeah, that's a good point.

1425
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 9: Then we're talking about the dudes about ten thirty two

1426
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 9: with the hip surgery past.

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Speaker 11: I understand pass rushers seem to hold up though, Like

1428
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 11: if you're a really talented pass rusher, I know you

1429
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 11: get up there in thirties, but it seems like it's

1430
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 11: a bit sustainable. Here's so just give Mark some credit here.

1431
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 11: We have seen some older guys Kevin get money.

1432
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 9: Joint, hold up and get money or two different things.

1433
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 9: Get money is get money, hold up and be effective

1434
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 9: is a different I'm.

1435
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 8: Saying you you can argue that then they're not gonna

1436
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 8: be what they were. But we have seen some big

1437
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 8: name guys get some luctive kin.

1438
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 9: I know we don't have the time for the combo now,

1439
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 9: but something we got to get into certainly tomorrow, maybe

1440
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 9: even the nine o'clock dolls.

1441
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: Real quickly though, just to wet your appetite. Of the

1442
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: top guys that are available on the edge right now,

1443
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: these are the guys over the age of thirty. Trey

1444
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: Hendrickson thirty one, Khalil Mack thirty five, Hasan Reddick is

1445
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: thirty one, Joey Bosa is gonna be thirty one, Denico

1446
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: Autry is almost thirty six, Leonard Floyd is thirty three.

1447
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: A lot of elderly senior statesmen on the market.

1448
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: James Boyd just what I want coming off the edge.

1449
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 9: Elderly senior statesman boy that strikes fear and opposing quarterback?

1450
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: Hey, do you want the elderly mail at four thirty?

1451
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 8: I'm just asking do you want the old guy off

1452
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 8: the edge who's actually done something in his career or

1453
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 8: do you want to run it back? Dorothy Boyd is

1454
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 8: saving a seat for him. Hey, hold on, Dorothy wood

1455
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 8: to get it done on as now at the play

1456
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 8: defense on me.

1457
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: Also tonight, Pacers start a four game road trip late

1458
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 2: against the Clippers, airtime ten pm. Here on the fan

1459
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: ten thirty start. Pascal Siakam, Aaron Nei Smith, Andrew Nemhart

1460
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: have been upgraded to questionable. Aviza Zubats is still out.

1461
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: The Clippers will be playing without Bradley Beal and John Collins.

1462
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: Tonight college basketball, We've got some great games for you

1463
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: this evening. Jamb is going to be out at Hinkle

1464
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: Fieldhouse as Creighton will entertain the Creighton Blue Jays tonight

1465
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: six pm start five thirty airtime for the broadcast there,

1466
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: but Jambo will be on live until then. Also tonight,

1467
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: I you the Bubble watches on Kevin. They will host

1468
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: tonight Minnesota. It'll be on BTN and WIBC at six

1469
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 2: thirty this evening. And as you point out this, this

1470
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 2: is a can't lose situation.

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 9: Right, can't lose You can't have an ugly standing on

1472
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 9: the resume. So yeah, that's where this falls here right now, Lonardi,

1473
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 9: they just flash it up. He's got IU his team

1474
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 9: seventy so two spots out. UCLA got a big win

1475
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 9: last night over Nebraska. They were, you know, kind of

1476
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 9: sniffing around the bubble there, so getting great deals. Tonight

1477
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 9: over at Hinklefield House, skates open at four thirty for

1478
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 9: Butler Creighton. They tried to go three in a row

1479
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 9: perdue Matt Painter was adamant on ball defense. Keeping guys

1480
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 9: out of the lane are massive keys for Purdue right now.

1481
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 9: They've got Northwestern tonight. I want to say they're a

1482
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 9: notable favorite nine and a half and shout out to

1483
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 9: ball state. Three in a row, got one in overtime

1484
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 9: last night. They're trying to make the MAC Tournament. They

1485
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 9: could be no, they could be Maye of Ohio's first

1486
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 9: round opponent in the MAC Tournament. Here is Maye of

1487
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 9: Ohio one last night and really was a very exciting

1488
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 9: game there late. They survived Toledo, so they have one

1489
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 9: more game to go in their undefeated season. But shout

1490
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 9: out to Michael Lewis and company trying to make the

1491
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 9: MAC Tournament.

1492
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: Kevin, They'll be drinking coffee all day long because Stanford

1493
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: plays at Notre Dame, and beginning at nine pm, you

1494
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: can watch that esp and you we're going to take

1495
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: a look at a national perspective on the Colts and

1496
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: what they're up against right now. As we continue next

1497
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Speaker 2: it's ninety three five and one O seven five. The

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01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: Fan back on the air here on Wednesday morning. If

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: you were.

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Speaker 3: Listening to The Fan Morning Show on Sports Radio, ninety

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Speaker 3: three to five and one oh seventy five the fans.

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday morning. It's drying out a little bit. Maybe

1503
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: I was wet yesterday, a lot of rain, but better

1504
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: than the snow I guess on Monday. I'm crazy. Yeah,

1505
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: starting to warm up probably, that's what that means. In

1506
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: the meantime, things are warming up in the off season

1507
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: of the National Football Yesterday, of course, the Indianapolis Colts

1508
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: putting the transition tag on quarterback Daniel Jones. We've been

1509
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: talking about what it might mean for the team moving forward,

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Speaker 2: and now we thought we'd get some national perspective. Matt

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01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: Verdeam joins us now on the pay Less Liquors hotline.

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01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 2: He works at Sports Illustrated. He covers the league and

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 2: he's been kind enough to wake up and one is

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01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: this morning, Matt, Good morning, thanks for being here. It

1515
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: is that time of year in the National Football League,

1516
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: and the Colts get it started off with a transition

1517
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: tag on a quarterback. Don't see that very often. What

1518
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: were your thoughts when you first heard that.

1519
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 4: I think it's smart. Look, if you weren't going to

1520
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 4: get a long term deal done, then this was the

1521
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 4: next best option because it gives them some control, you know,

1522
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 4: the franchise tag. Look for fans maybe aren't aware. If

1523
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 4: you Francis stag a player and another team offers and

1524
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 4: you allow that player to leave, you get two first

1525
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 4: round packs, which is why it never happens. That hasn't

1526
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 4: happened in twenty five years. Transition tag, a team can

1527
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 4: make an offer, the Colts can choose not to match,

1528
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 4: they get nothing back. But if the Colts do match,

1529
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 4: then Daniel Jones is in Indianapolis on that contract. And

1530
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 4: so look, the reality is it gives the Colts the

1531
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 4: ability to kind of control the market here. If there's

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01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 4: an offer that they feel like is appropriate, they can

1533
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 4: just match it. And really, look, is it possible some

1534
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 4: team fries he can call him, just offer some crazy contract. Yeah,

1535
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 4: but it's unlikely if you look at the league, I

1536
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 4: don't know who that team would be. And so I think,

1537
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 4: you know, the Cults will continue to trying to have

1538
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 4: them away at a deal. And then the other question is,

1539
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 4: obviously you got a week or so, what happens with Pierce?

1540
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 4: Do the Colts find a way to keep him? He's

1541
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 4: probably going to be the most expensive receiver on the market.

1542
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 4: By a wide margin, and if they do is at

1543
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 4: the end of Michael Pittman. So it's there's a lot

1544
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 4: of moving parts in Indy, Matt.

1545
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 8: From a national perspective, when you're looking at quarterbacks around

1546
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 8: the league, why do you think Daniel Jones still has

1547
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 8: a decent amount of levers to even warrant a transition

1548
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 8: tag when he played half a good season here in Indianapolis?

1549
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 4: Because Malague willis played like ten good quarters and he's

1550
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 4: gonna get.

1551
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 12: Thirty to forty million a year.

1552
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 4: I mean, it's crazy, right, but it's the reality is

1553
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 4: like in a sane world, I'm with you, Like in

1554
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 4: the sane world, if you're sitting there, Okay, Indianapolis is

1555
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 4: gonna give maybe another one year deal, maybe it's a

1556
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 4: two year deal. That's kind of really a one year

1557
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 4: deal with a team option on.

1558
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 12: The back end.

1559
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 4: But even off the Achilles, even off of you know,

1560
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 4: I would say the back half of ye before you

1561
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 4: heard he slowed down, he was still effective. Certainly wasn't

1562
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 4: as good as he was first after year. You know,

1563
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 4: he's got leveraged for a few reasons. One, he's still

1564
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 4: a relatively young quarterback who played really well for a

1565
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 4: big stretch of last season. Number two. This is a

1566
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 4: stupid reason, but NFL teams it's a reason. He was

1567
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 4: a first round pick. He was a high pick years ago.

1568
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 4: He's had yet even with the Giants, he had flashes,

1569
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 4: and the teams are always gonna believe in that town.

1570
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is a fourth round pick. I think we're

1571
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:46,520
Speaker 4: talking about a much different situation. And then lastly, because

1572
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 4: of the position, these guys are in such demand and

1573
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 4: the culturally kind of boxed themselves into a corner here

1574
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 4: when they traded to first round pickure Sauce Gartner, Like

1575
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 4: once they did that to kind of in on Dani

1576
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 4: Jones at that point, Like.

1577
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,440
Speaker 12: I don't know that they can backtrack.

1578
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,520
Speaker 4: They're not going to be able to draft a quarterback

1579
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 4: even next year when the class is supposed to be

1580
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 4: really good. This year it's Mendoza basically nobody else. But

1581
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 4: it's gonna it's gonna be a challenge for them. So

1582
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 4: if you're ballad, like you're kind of all in at

1583
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 4: this point with Jones, I don't know that there's an

1584
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 4: agent ramp. You you took away that age of ramp

1585
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 4: when you when you traded through first round Picture Gardner.

1586
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 9: Matt verder Ram, great stuff over on SI Winners and

1587
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 9: losers from yesterday and the tag day that was around

1588
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 9: the league. Speaking of the news items, Kyler Murray seemingly

1589
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:41,839
Speaker 9: available for relatively cheap money here. Let's call it twenty

1590
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 9: million dollars cheaper, probably more, but let's call Kyler Murray

1591
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 9: twenty million dollars cheaper than Daniel Jones.

1592
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have next year? Kyler Murray or

1593
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones?

1594
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 12: Kyler Murray.

1595
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 4: But but it's not like I'm running to go sign

1596
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray like the Cardinals. The the Cardinals have Jacoby

1597
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 4: Brissett as a backup who Colts fans are familiar with,

1598
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 4: and I think Jacoby Brissets a good backup. He's not

1599
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 4: a good starter. He's older, he's on the back nine

1600
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 4: of his career. And the Cardinals still says, you know what,

1601
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 4: we're good, We're good. We're just gonna release you. And

1602
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 4: they're getting no cap real lease. By the way, Like

1603
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 4: if they now I they designated as a post June one,

1604
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 4: then they get a little bit, but even then not

1605
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 4: that much. If they just cut him straight up free

1606
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 4: June one. Okay, see you thanks for the memories. They're

1607
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 4: actually eating an additional two million dollars this year, like

1608
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 4: they are just basically saying we do not want you,

1609
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 4: please leave. Is he talented, Yes, At the same point,

1610
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 4: he's had an injury history. He's also won nothing at

1611
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 4: this long now now listen, part of that is the Cardinals.

1612
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 4: Part of that has been his own shortcomings. I think

1613
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 4: he's gonna have a significant market. You know, everybody thinks

1614
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 4: the Vikings will be in on them there. I wonder

1615
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 4: if the Jets will be in on him. You know,

1616
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 4: I got to pay the time. I mean, the Cardinals

1617
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 4: are paying the freight here. I mean he's gonnae had

1618
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 4: a very cheap contract. You know, I thought the Cardinals

1619
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 4: might even be able to trade him, quite honestly, because

1620
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 4: when you acquire players just taking on a base salary

1621
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 4: as a cap hit, his cap HiT's not that much

1622
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 4: in the next two years, it's like two years forty million.

1623
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 4: But as it turns out like he's going to go.

1624
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 4: I think the Cardinals this is just an educated get.

1625
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 4: I think they think they're going.

1626
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 12: To get league Willis.

1627
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 4: You know, Austin Ford, who's their GM was there when

1628
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 4: the Titans drafted Willis and Tennessee. Obviously, Michael floor is

1629
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 4: the new coach, well, Matt laflor is his older brother

1630
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 4: and just coach Willis for the last two years. And

1631
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 4: if you will where would you rather Go'd you rather

1632
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 4: go to the Cardinals all the offensive weapons they have

1633
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 4: or the Jets or Cleveland? I mean, I feel like

1634
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 4: if you're Willis, that's kind of a clear answer. So

1635
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 4: we'll see. But yeah, I think Murray's going to have

1636
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 4: a handful of shooters. I don't think he's gonna be

1637
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 4: sitting there waiting around forever.

1638
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: What do you think Trey Hendrickson ends up?

1639
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: You know, if the Colts could make it work cap one,

1640
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 4: I think they're the perfect fifth one, honestly. You know, look,

1641
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 4: he's he's a guy who thrives on the Ana Roumo

1642
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 4: and since he had his best years there when Anam

1643
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 4: Rumo was there, I think he's a weird evaluation in

1644
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 4: the sense that coming off a little bit of a

1645
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 4: down the year, he's over the age of thirty, but

1646
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 4: he's still went healthy. He's one of the best pass

1647
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 4: rushers in the NFL. He's a great player, no off

1648
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 4: field concerns, nothing like that. So I think he's going

1649
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 4: to get paid, you know, over thirty million year. I

1650
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 4: think that's probably where thing lands. Maybe maybe it's right

1651
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 4: around that number just because of the age and it

1652
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 4: doesn't climb into like the thirty five million area.

1653
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 12: But he you know, I look at him and say.

1654
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 4: You know, there's a guy that if you're a team

1655
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 4: that's trying to get to the next level, whether you're

1656
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 4: a team like the Colts and you're trying to become

1657
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 4: a consistent playoff team, whether you're a team, no, I

1658
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 4: don't think a team could afford him, like the Bills,

1659
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 4: we're trying to get to at that super Bowl level.

1660
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 4: You know, a guy like Henderson, like Hendrickson. Another place

1661
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 4: I look at it the Bears, who right now, by

1662
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 4: the way, I have to be somewhat reeling with Donovan retiring.

1663
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 12: That is a massive loss.

1664
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 4: But Hendrickson is a guy I think they're all in

1665
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 4: on Max Crosby. I think they'd love to get him,

1666
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 4: but if they can't, I look at Henderson. They looking

1667
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 4: to the Bears. You need somebody on the edge, right,

1668
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 4: you need somebody to go with Montes sweat. They don't have.

1669
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 4: It's a black hole on their side. You know, that

1670
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 4: line is kind of in flux right now. They need

1671
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 4: another piece. But those are a couple of teams that

1672
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 4: I think are going to be in a in a

1673
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to say maybe a bidding war,

1674
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 4: but I think that'll be very it'll be it'll be

1675
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 4: a hot market for Henderson. He's not gonna He's not

1676
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 4: gonna go without a lot of students coming on day

1677
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 4: after that.

1678
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: It's so total hypothetical if it came down to it

1679
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: for the Colts and then money's money Alec Pierce or

1680
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson.

1681
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 4: Like it's hard because Pierce is so much younger, but

1682
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 4: I think Henderson's a much better player. Like Pierce is

1683
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 4: an awesome deep thright, you know, to have less than

1684
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 4: fifty receptions have a thousand yards is tremendous. The last

1685
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 4: two years, he's led the league in yards for at session.

1686
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 4: At the same point, if I can put Henderson with

1687
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 4: a lot to keep Pittman, maybe draft or receiver in

1688
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 4: the mid rounds. This is a very, very very deep

1689
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 4: draft first years is also, to be fair very draft

1690
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:25,839
Speaker 4: A deep treff Ridge. I personally would would take Henderson

1691
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 4: for the next two to three years and keep Pittman

1692
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 4: and just say, you know, I think that's the better

1693
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 4: combination because I I think Henderson sells a lot of

1694
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 4: really the football offs And I also wonder like how

1695
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 4: much of how much of Henderson last year.

1696
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 12: Was just not like you got hurt and I'd say

1697
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 12: that that is what it is. But that was a

1698
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 12: that was a.

1699
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 4: Bad situation Cincinnatio last year. I was a camp. I

1700
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 4: was doing my Canter last year and I was in

1701
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 4: Cincinnati when Henderson came back, uh, and it was it

1702
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 4: was awkward. I mean there was. It was very obvious

1703
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 4: even a couple of years ago, because actually it was

1704
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 4: two years ago when I was there and he did that.

1705
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 4: It was awkward. Then last year it didn't get any better.

1706
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 4: There was still a lot of bitterness. You know, the

1707
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 4: team was awful defensively. I think they're gonna whoever signed him,

1708
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna get the best version.

1709
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 12: Trances.

1710
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 8: Last one from me, Matt, and again thanks for the time.

1711
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 8: I encourage you all to check out Matt veter Ram's

1712
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 8: work at Sports Illustrated. Anthony Richardson requested a trade last week.

1713
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 8: The Colts want to work with him with finding a

1714
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 8: trade partner. Have you thought about where he could go

1715
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 8: to try to, in essence, revitalize his career.

1716
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 4: You know, James, I really I think with Anthony Richardson.

1717
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 4: But he's not going to go somewhere and find his

1718
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 4: starting gigame.

1719
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not saying that, right.

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Speaker 4: No, right, But I mean I think there's this thought that, like, well,

1721
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Speaker 4: he could just go somewhere. It's like that he's gonna

1722
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Speaker 4: have to He's gonna have.

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Speaker 12: To take the long road here a little bit.

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Speaker 4: And I I'd love to see him go to a

1725
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Speaker 4: coach who's known to be able to work with quarterbacks.

1726
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Speaker 4: You know, Look, Jimmy Groppol is probably in the Rams.

1727
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 4: Maybe he goes to the Rams and sits behind Stafford

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Speaker 4: for a year or two. Maybe he goes to Kansas

1729
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 4: City and you know, they ad Mitchew as their backup

1730
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Speaker 4: blastar he's to create. Maybe he goes there and he

1731
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 4: sits behind Mahomes and learns from the Homes and learns

1732
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Speaker 4: from Andy Reid, and who knows, maybe he has to

1733
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Speaker 4: play a few games to start the year based on

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Speaker 4: whether or not Mahomes back nation. Yeah, I think you

1735
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 4: will be, but it's unclear uh, you know, Minnesota of

1736
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 4: course is the one. You say, Hey, I mean, if

1737
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 4: there's a path, maybe it's there because McCarthy's been hurt

1738
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 4: and or ineffective throughout his first two years and Kevin

1739
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 4: O'Connell's known as his quarterback guru. But I want to

1740
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 4: see Anthony Richardson go to a team where he is

1741
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 4: going to get really Coacheduff not stichen Is is a

1742
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 4: damn could coach in his own right.

1743
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 12: So if you can't, may go work with him.

1744
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 4: There are obvious concerns, but I like to see him

1745
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 4: go a team like that, and a team there's no

1746
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 4: pressure on him, which is the only concerned I have Minnesota.

1747
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 4: It feels like if you go to minnesotaf.

1748
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Speaker 12: You we're gonna view him as light.

1749
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 4: Hey, he can come in here, he can fix this.

1750
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 4: I'd like to see him go to a team where

1751
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 4: he can just we set, take a year, learn and

1752
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 4: then and then maybe try to go from there and

1753
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 4: take the Malik Willis route.

1754
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Speaker 2: Matt, great stuff, Thanks for your time this morning. We

1755
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Speaker 2: appreciate your perspective and we'll call on you again down

1756
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Speaker 2: the road. Thanks and no problem, Thank you, Bett. Matt

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Speaker 2: Give it up to you, just soldiering through today. When

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Speaker 2: you wake up this morning and find out that your

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl twenty seven year old rock of a center

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Speaker 2: for the Bears has decided that he just doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to play football anymore, well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, again, injury, it could be injury,

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Speaker 1: why something like? Hopefully not.

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Speaker 11: But if it was just a personal decision, congrats to

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Speaker 11: him twenty seven years old and you got a lifetime

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Speaker 11: of wealth. But it as a whole you will Philly

1775
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Speaker 11: played one hundred percent snaps for the Bears and had

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Speaker 11: seen to have good cohesion with Caleb Williams. So now

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Speaker 11: a need that you weren't expecting all of a sudden,

1778
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Speaker 11: you have a little more you need there. Now you

1779
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Speaker 11: have some guys on the chart on the on the

1780
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 11: roster you can look to, but you'd also go for

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Speaker 11: some veterans as well, So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he just didn't want to play in Hammond,

1783
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 2: even the possibility was too much.

1784
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Speaker 11: Well, I don't know, considering how long it takes to

1785
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 11: build stadiums these days, his career might be over by

1786
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Speaker 11: the time they get there.

1787
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Speaker 1: True so, but all jokes aside.

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Speaker 8: I do wonder like what other reporting will get about

1789
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 8: that because it's so bizarre and he just got paid

1790
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Speaker 8: last year Drew Domal twenty seven and had been I

1791
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Speaker 8: mean he played every snap, let alone every game, so

1792
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Speaker 8: like literally.

1793
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Speaker 11: One hundred percent of this snaps he played last year.

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Speaker 11: It's not just like, oh he played both, he played

1795
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Speaker 11: all of them.

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Speaker 2: Wow. That's insane for a center too. Man, Hey, reminder

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Speaker 2: mark this down. April thirtieth, Guys, Legend Golf Club. Kevin's

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Speaker 2: year at that time.

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Speaker 9: Boy, I'm not unless I'm got a puddle that I

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Speaker 9: can hit out anyway.

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Speaker 2: last year, right, Key card will walk? Yeah, I was there,

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Speaker 2: all right, sounds good coming up in a moment, we'll get

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Speaker 2: back to talking about the latest in the National Football League.

1834
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: And how about this the Colts with the first big

1835
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: domino to drop yesterday? What does it mean for everybody else?

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Speaker 2: We'll find out mon show Sports.

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Speaker 1: Radio and I'm doing right.

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Speaker 8: This is Mark doing his thing with the Rick Ross Rose.

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01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 8: This is what Alec Pierce is playing this morning, because

1840
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 8: he was like, oh you didn't tag me. Now I

1841
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 8: get to run that and run them digits up, run

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Speaker 8: them papers up.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Mark, you're a very popular guy. Did you see

1844
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 2: this on the text line? Deeric texting in says Jeff,

1845
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: I need Mark is my fourth for the golf outing.

1846
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: I paid for a foursome already, you go?

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Speaker 1: You in sure act. Pick a couple holes with them

1848
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: last year. It was a good time. So they're ringers.

1849
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Speaker 11: I feel like they were smoking the ball down the course,

1850
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 11: giving Kevin run for their money.

1851
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Speaker 2: I like it.

1852
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 11: You're wanted, guy, please sure, it's nice to be saying

1853
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 11: I don't know Mark Webb we wanted for different reasons.

1854
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 8: Let's check his uh W records in other states. You know,

1855
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 8: we moved to Indiana, but oh the Illinois. We'll see

1856
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 8: if he can cross you know those state lines again.

1857
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: Just tell me where the beverage cart is. That's what

1858
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: I need. Where's that at?

1859
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: Uh just follows Kevin Bowen around is what it does.

1860
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:01,520
Speaker 2: Hold a hole making drives all day long day from Beechgrove,

1861
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 2: riding in on the fan text line this morning two

1862
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 2: through nine, ten seventy gentlemen watching what the Colts are doing.

1863
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 2: Carly should have swept the place clean and started over.

1864
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: Too many holes in lack of talent from the last

1865
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 2: nine years, thoughts.

1866
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 8: That was not going to happen as soon as they

1867
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 8: traded their two first round picks away for basically Sauce

1868
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 8: Gardner and their belief in Daniel Jones. But now my

1869
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 8: question becomes Kevin should the Colts And Jeff you can

1870
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 8: weigh in as well, should the Colts view this as

1871
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:39,799
Speaker 8: a two year window or a two year period because

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01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 8: you don't have the first round picks until twenty twenty eight, Like,

1873
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 8: how much should you put into twenty twenty seven? I'm sorry,

1874
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 8: twenty twenty six, knowing that Daniel is coming off inn

1875
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 8: achilles tear, and even if he stays fully healthy for

1876
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 8: the whole season, which he's only done once he was

1877
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 8: first seven, which I would not bet on. But let's

1878
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 8: just say he stays healthy, but he's not what he

1879
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 8: was from a mobility standpoint, like he had been playing

1880
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 8: in the first half of last year. So are you

1881
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 8: going all in this year? Do you look at it

1882
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 8: as a longer stretch?

1883
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm confused? Yeah, first off, today's point.

1884
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 9: I mean, he's right, Chris Powder should not continue to

1885
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 9: be here, But that's not really the debate here on

1886
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 9: whatever March fourth, you know, and.

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Speaker 8: Go back and change that listeners, you know, we hear you,

1888
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 8: but we can't change her.

1889
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, is what it is.

1890
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 9: Acknowledge that aspect the billionaire.

1891
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Speaker 1: Chose and we have to like live with it.

1892
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Speaker 9: To Dave's text there, Yeah, I mean I do think

1893
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 9: we are operating probably in a two year window given

1894
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 9: no first rund But you know, as far as all In,

1895
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 9: I mean right now they're over the cap. So it's like,

1896
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 9: you know, how all in can you really go? That's

1897
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 9: where well I guess from Let me back up. When

1898
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 9: I say all in, I mean, should you restructure? Should

1899
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 9: you cut some guys? Should you try to go get

1900
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 9: Tray Hendry? Like that's what I mean?

1901
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 8: Like, should you do stuff you haven't done in the

1902
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 8: past to give yourself a chance to quote unquot contend

1903
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 8: Because in Chris Baller's words and not mine, he said

1904
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 8: he believed they were a top four team when Daniel

1905
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 8: Jones was healthy through the first half of last year.

1906
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I definitely think they need to do that, just

1907
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 9: if they want to check off a few of their

1908
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 9: offseason goals, not just bring back Daniel Jones and Alec

1909
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 9: Pierce again. Defensively, you know, I would argue you need

1910
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 9: multiple starters, new starters in the front seven. What I

1911
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 9: am a little struggling with from yesterday is again the

1912
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:30,799
Speaker 9: risk and the reward of it all. Like in our bubble,

1913
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 9: the Colts and the Pacers, you could make an argument

1914
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 9: they both have made a bit risky moves here in

1915
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 9: the last whatever month or so, with some reward potentially there.

1916
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 9: The Pacers reward is the top four pick, you know,

1917
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 9: that's the thought there. It's if we retain this pick,

1918
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 9: we're getting, you know, a great, great talent, et cetera,

1919
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Speaker 9: et cetera.

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Speaker 1: What would you guys say as the reward for what

1921
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: the Colts did yesterday?

1922
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 8: A little bit more cap flexibility, You save some money

1923
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 8: that you could perhaps.

1924
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 1: Use in a different area of needs.

1925
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Speaker 9: So the risk of potentially losing I'm not going to

1926
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 9: say they would lose both, albeit the door and slam shut,

1927
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 9: let's say the risk of losing one of the two.

1928
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 9: The reward for that is one point eight percent of

1929
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 9: the salary cap or whatever the hell The breakdown is

1930
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 9: of six million versus three hundred and one million. That

1931
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 9: that to me is where I struggle with it, like

1932
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 9: is that really worth it? And now you're putting a

1933
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Speaker 9: lot of trust into agents, a lot of trusts into

1934
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Speaker 9: agents and word of mouth.

1935
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Speaker 2: You can always trust an agent, can't you.

1936
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Speaker 9: Kevin Daniel Jones and Alex Pearce strike me as some

1937
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Speaker 9: pretty good individuals.

1938
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Speaker 8: Not gonna pretend if I tweeted everything I got from

1939
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Speaker 8: an agent, I would not have a job and I

1940
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Speaker 8: would not be on these air.

1941
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Speaker 9: Not gonna pretend to know Daniel Jones and Alex Pierce

1942
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Speaker 9: super well by any means. They strike me as you know,

1943
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 9: good dudes, et cetera, et cetera. But you've left the

1944
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Speaker 9: ball in the agent's court. And again, if Alec Pierce

1945
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 9: really wants stability at quarterback, I'd argue I could think

1946
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 9: of a few other words I would use so define

1947
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 9: Daniel Jones's NFL career at this point, then stability, let

1948
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Speaker 9: alone coming off with torn achilles and listen a year.

1949
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Speaker 8: So then here's a follow up to that. Does Alec

1950
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 8: Pierce need to see Daniel Jones get a multi year

1951
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 8: deal before he considers coming back?

1952
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Speaker 4: Well?

1953
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Speaker 1: Is one year enough?

1954
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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't need to like interrogate Alec Pierce,

1955
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 9: but I'd be like, if you really want stability at quarterback,

1956
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 9: I don't care what the contract looks like for Daniel Jones. Sure, yeah,

1957
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 9: multi year deal, James, Okay, I guess contractually that is stability.

1958
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,759
Speaker 9: But you've hammered this point more than anybody. Daniel Jones

1959
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 9: has never been a seventeen week guy, let alone two

1960
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 9: three four year guy. Whereas when you look around the league,

1961
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 9: you can see some situations with some cap space that

1962
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 9: have quarterbacks that you would call much more stable with

1963
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,839
Speaker 9: their own play, with their injury history, with their contract,

1964
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 9: team situation, all of that.

1965
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 2: So let me throw this out you. Earlier during a checkdown,

1966
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 2: I said, Mike Evans is a wide receiver that's a

1967
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 2: free agent, but I couldn't see him necessarily leaving Tampa

1968
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,600
Speaker 2: the opportunity to finish your career there. But then I

1969
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 2: see this morning on Get Up on the ESPN that

1970
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 2: they're all over Mike Evans going to the Bills, like

1971
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 2: how great would he be with Josh Allen? And my

1972
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 2: thought is kind of like the type of wide receivers

1973
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 2: the Bills have had, does now look Pierce fit there also?

1974
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

1975
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 8: And I think that goes to one the need and

1976
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 8: also to the stability that Kevin is talking about. Who's

1977
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,600
Speaker 8: more stable Josh Allen, who, by the way, seems to

1978
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 8: never get hurt. I know he had offseason foot sergery,

1979
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 8: I believe, but the due plays through everything. And then

1980
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 8: you look at a guy like Daniel Jones, who, to

1981
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 8: his credit, will try to play through everything, but it's

1982
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 8: just not held up their ability wise. Here's a quote

1983
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 8: from Chris Baller last week at the combine. Kevin and

1984
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 8: it took me a little bit to keep a straight face,

1985
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 8: and I probably still didn't. But when asking about Hey,

1986
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 8: and I believe it was Nathan Brown from Mindie Star,

1987
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 8: their cold supporter, who's slightly better than Joey Ericson, I

1988
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 8: couldn't help it.

1989
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 2: This afternoon, you know.

1990
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Speaker 8: Uh, he asked the question to Chris ballad, Hey, you

1991
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 8: said Daniel was the short and long term answer, given

1992
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 8: his injury history, why do you believe that? And you know,

1993
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 8: Chris talked about how hard Daniel works, and here's the

1994
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 8: direct quote. He says, he's played a three games in

1995
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 8: his career. The two big ones have been the acl

1996
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 8: and the Achilles. I just think the way he prepares,

1997
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 8: how he's built. I think the long run, Daniel is

1998
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 8: going to be perfectly fine. I hear that, and I'm like, what,

1999
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 8: He's not going to be perfectly fine? If you're putting

2000
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 8: a percentage on it, The likeily ahead of him getting

2001
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 8: injured again is high.

2002
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 1: The likelihood of him.

2003
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 8: Not being fully what he was when he was healthy

2004
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 8: last year coming off to achilles tear. Even if he's

2005
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 8: medically cleared, he won't be fully himself. That's not going

2006
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 8: to happen. So again, are you kind of banking on

2007
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 8: hope here?

2008
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 4: Like?

2009
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: Is that the Colt's plan for twenty twenty six?

2010
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: Can I just run this down for Chris just in

2011
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 2: case Chris is listening this morning and I appreciate that

2012
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 2: if you are, so he comes in in twenty nineteen,

2013
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones does early in his career he has a

2014
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 2: minor ankle sprain as a rookie. Then he's got a

2015
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 2: hamstring in an ankle issue in twenty twenty that missed

2016
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 2: the two games because of that. In Week five of

2017
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty season, he also sustained a concussion, but

2018
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 2: was cleared to play the following game. In twenty twenty

2019
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 2: one was a neck injury, which prematurely ended his season

2020
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 2: after missing six games while on injured reserve. He experienced

2021
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 2: recurring neck issues in twenty twenty three. Week nine of

2022
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three season, tears his right ACL. In

2023
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, of course, the season ending torn right

2024
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 2: achilles tendon, so in addition to hamstring strains and high

2025
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 2: ankle sprains and the run of the million injuries that

2026
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 2: all NFL players get. It's just been something all the time.

2027
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 2: It's it's one of those things where there's just always

2028
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 2: something going on.

2029
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 9: Kevin, Yeah, I getting this question here from the text

2030
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 9: line about Dan, Like, how are the Colts in this

2031
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 9: cap situation? You know when seemingly they don't have a bad,

2032
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 9: bad contract. You know, I'd say a couple of things

2033
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 9: factor into it. One, they are starting to pay you know,

2034
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 9: Daniel Jones as we sit here right now, we wake

2035
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 9: up today, we didn't have this yesterday. He is a

2036
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 9: thirty seven million dollar cap hit for this upcoming season. Yes,

2037
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 9: so you know, again, if you sign him to a

2038
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 9: long term deal, you can lessen that. But as of

2039
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 9: right now, that's where we're at. So you're starting to

2040
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 9: pay quarterback major money.

2041
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 8: And he was on a discounted contract last year. Given

2042
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,799
Speaker 8: his level of play and trying to revive his career.

2043
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 8: A starting quarterback in the NFL is not going to

2044
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 8: playing for fourteen million dollars unless they're trying to overcome

2045
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 8: perhaps their past issues.

2046
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 1: We'll continue. So you're starting to pay quarterback.

2047
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,839
Speaker 9: You're starting to pay wide out of course with Pittman

2048
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 9: potentially Peers, you're starting to pay left tackle with Bernard

2049
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 9: Ryman and corner Sauce Gardner's contract, I think it's pretty good,

2050
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 9: but like when you combind Sauce and Mooney, it is

2051
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 9: a lot of money at corner. And then I think

2052
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 9: where the big differences with the Colts and other teams.

2053
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,839
Speaker 9: One that they haven't gotten a lot of great impact

2054
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 9: recently with rookie contract guys. And also they still pay

2055
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 9: the other positions a lot of money. Guard, running back, linebacker, safety,

2056
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 9: they still pay. You know, some teams get by at

2057
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 9: those other positions. The Colts have invested financially a good

2058
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 9: amount multi year contracts, second third contracts with a lot

2059
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 9: of those positions as well. So I think that's a

2060
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 9: reason why damn they are in the cap situation they're at.

2061
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 9: And again just to update everybody, technically, they're about five

2062
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 9: million over the cap as we sit here right now.

2063
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 9: By next Wednesday, they have to get under the cap.

2064
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 9: That's when the new league year officially begins. And if

2065
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 9: we're going to play out and map out the Colts offseason,

2066
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 9: let's just call Daniel Jones thirty seven million. So that's

2067
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 9: what he is right now, and let's say that's what

2068
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 9: that's what it ends up being. We've debated who Alec

2069
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 9: Pearson Trey Hendrickson all morning long, right I think if

2070
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 9: you ask the Colts, they'd like to have both of them. Okay,

2071
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 9: how much is Alex Pierce gonna make this season?

2072
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: Let's call it twenty eight, twenty eight? How much is

2073
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Hendrickson going to make? Boy, let's call it thirty.

2074
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 9: Okay, let's knock maybe ten off of each of those james,

2075
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 9: just to try to make the salary cap math work

2076
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 9: a little bit better. Their early hits will be a

2077
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,520
Speaker 9: little bit less. So that's eighteen for Pierce, twenty for Hendrickson.

2078
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 9: So that's thirty eight million for those two players. They're

2079
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 9: four or five million over right now. Now you're adding

2080
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 9: thirty eight on top of that number. I hate to

2081
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 9: do all this math here, but it's reality that now

2082
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 9: pushes you forty two million ish over the cap. How

2083
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 9: are you getting around that? And that's where I keep

2084
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 9: on coming back to who on this football team currently

2085
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 9: A will either not be here or B will have

2086
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 9: a huge restructure coming in the next seven days.

2087
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 2: Here's what you're looking at for the top ten highest

2088
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 2: paid Colts players by cash this year. What the cash

2089
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 2: the Colts have to pay them this year? For example,

2090
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 2: we talked earlier about all thirty seven point eight million

2091
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 2: dollars for Daniel Jones gets paid this year. Ok, all right,

2092
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 2: So Sauce Gardner's at twenty five to five, Pittman Junior

2093
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 2: is at twenty four, DeForest Buckner is at twenty three,

2094
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson is at eighteen, Mooney Ward is at thirteen

2095
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,879
Speaker 2: point four, Bernard Ryman is at thirteen, Jonathan Taylor's at thirteen,

2096
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 2: Rover Stewart's twelve twelve point two, and cam Bynham is

2097
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 2: ten point five in the top ten rounds out with

2098
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 2: Kenny Moore at ten million. It's a lot of money

2099
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 2: for ten guys.

2100
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:16,799
Speaker 1: But again cat nets are different.

2101
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is true.

2102
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 9: The column you have to look at, it's more.

2103
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 8: Sauces is like nine and a half this year, which

2104
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 8: actually isn't too bad.

2105
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 9: Right, Like we're not talking about sass Gardner as a

2106
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 9: cap issue. It's more Michael Pittman Junior at twenty nine million.

2107
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 9: It's more of you know, even to Forrest Buckner at

2108
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,440
Speaker 9: twenty six million, coming off fair enough neck surgery.

2109
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 2: Right, And Pittman's twenty nine for cap hit this year

2110
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 2: by the way, right, Yeah.

2111
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: I just said that.

2112
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, Pittman is twenty nine, So you know, again,

2113
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 9: Kenny Moore is north of ten million given his age,

2114
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 9: so that these are some of the questions you have.

2115
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 9: You know, Anthony Richardson trading him could save you a handful.

2116
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: So you know, that's some of the.

2117
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 9: Answers the Colts are going to have to get here

2118
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 9: in the next week. And we've really never under ballad.

2119
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 9: We've never really talked about the Colts in this light.

2120
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 9: It's just the new reality of where Yeah.

2121
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 8: The cap hasn't really been an issue, to be honest

2122
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 8: with you, and we've.

2123
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 1: Always talked about how they don't spend it a cap, right.

2124
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 8: I was just gonna say that, Mark right now, they're

2125
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 8: on the other end where you're saying, Okay, you have

2126
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 8: to spend. But you know, it's like my credit card

2127
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 8: back in college. I don't know if I, you know,

2128
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 8: I had the right judgment and what I was spending

2129
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 8: things on. So we'll see if they have better judgment

2130
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 8: than me. No overdraft freeze in the NFL, I Musa.

2131
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 2: Say, yeah that the cap hit, to your point, Kevin,

2132
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 2: is really more relevant. I was just talking about cash

2133
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,639
Speaker 2: out of hand for the Colts, who we still wonder

2134
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 2: how much cash on hand is always available for that team, right.

2135
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, But the point with there is, like again with.

2136
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 8: Daniel Jones, the cash and the cap and all of

2137
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 8: that are pretty much identical right now because it's just

2138
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:52,679
Speaker 8: a one year, fully guaranteed deal until you do something else,

2139
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 8: which would be the long term deal and potentially trying

2140
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 8: to get.

2141
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: A little more creative in that world. So we'll see

2142
01:40:59,080 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 1: how it chicks out.

2143
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 8: But again, you have so many other issues to address

2144
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 8: within your roster, which is why I go back and

2145
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 8: forth you all about the whole You know, was it.

2146
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: A mirage when you were eight and two?

2147
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Speaker 8: We saw a dip at least offensively in Daniel Jones

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Speaker 8: when we were in Pittsburgh, I believe, and then he

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Speaker 8: was okay the following week, but there was a little

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Speaker 8: bit of slippage in his play, and I think you

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Speaker 8: saw some of the defensive holes pop up even more

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Speaker 8: later in this season. So how do you address all

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Speaker 8: of that when again, you've kind of put yourself in

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01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 8: a very unique and precarious, precarious, I'm sorry, I should

2155
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Speaker 8: probably stop saying big words on air.

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Speaker 1: Position.

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Speaker 8: So, boy, the next week or so should be eventful,

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Speaker 8: and then it should be eventful for the cults if

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Speaker 8: they really want to be serious.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, it has to be eventful. I guess it's

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01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 9: the easiest way to put it. I know we got

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01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 9: a busy checkdown to get to. But maybe on another side,

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01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 9: are we just living in the world where the Colts

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01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 9: will match anything Daniel Jones and not that there are

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Speaker 9: teams out there that can create big offer sheets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 9: But are the Colts just in a position where no

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Speaker 9: matter what is presented in front of them. Potentially, again,

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Speaker 9: I don't think it's a foregone conclusion, but potentially, do

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Speaker 9: they just have to match whatever ballot.

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Speaker 2: Has just got to be banking on the fact that

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01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,559
Speaker 2: nobody wants to pay forty million dollars to a guy

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01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 2: coming off an achilles tear that's had a history of

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Speaker 2: injury problems. But as you pointed out early in the show, James,

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Speaker 2: we've seen crazier things from all leagues in different areas

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Speaker 2: where if a team decides they want a certain guy

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Speaker 2: they'll go figure out a way to get it done.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes again, we get more into it.

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Speaker 1: We about ten minutes, but Mark, let's gout and check

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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, we've been talking about it all morning along the

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01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 2: Colts put the transition tag on Daniel Jones, and that

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01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 2: means James Boyd that other teams can give him an

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01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 2: offer and the Colts would have first refusal or write

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01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 2: a refusal to match that. But if they lose in

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Speaker 2: they get nothing back.

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Speaker 1: Right, you get nothing back.

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Speaker 8: So should the Colts have used the more expensive non

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01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 8: exclusive franchise tag that at at least ensure that you

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Speaker 8: get two first round picks if he were to leave,

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Speaker 8: that is not on the table anymore.

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Speaker 2: And that would have been about an extra six million dollars. Right,

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Speaker 2: So there you go, And I'll ask the same question

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Speaker 2: I asked it earlier this morning. Several Texters have asked

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Speaker 2: this question. If it came down to it, and it

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01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 2: could when it comes to money, Kevin Trey Hendrickson or

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Speaker 2: Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's a great debate. You know, obviously

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01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 9: edge rush help the Colts need. But you know, we're

2204
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 9: talking about a six year age gap. We're talking about

2205
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 9: a dude coming off hip surgery. That's not you know.

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01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 8: One guy's descending other guys uscending type of business.

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01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 9: I get that it's probably easier to find receivers and

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01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 9: all of that, but boy, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I might be the minority, but I might be in

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Speaker 1: the Pierce camp there.

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01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 9: Adappa Oway really is the intriguing young, young er edge

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01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 9: rusher I'm looking at here in freegency.

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01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 2: All right, as far as quarterbacks are concerned, Kyler Murray

2214
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 2: set to hit the open market, and because of what

2215
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 2: the Cardinals still owe him, a team that picks up

2216
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray only has to pay a little bit of

2217
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: money for this first year for him, right, the Cardinals

2218
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 2: are on the hook for the majority of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see.

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01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 8: I do believe that he could probably get a decent

2221
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 8: amount of money. I don't think he's just volunteering to

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Speaker 8: sign for the VET minimum. But yeah, he'll be a

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01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 8: cheaper option out there, and perhaps it's a good thing

2224
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 8: for the Colts. He can deter other teams from trying

2225
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 8: to go after Daniel Jones if he is an option.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep an eye on all of it

2227
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 2: over the next few days as the National Football League's

2228
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 2: offseason is about to go full bore. Meanwhile, college basketball tonight, Boy,

2229
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 2: we got some great stuff to tell you about. JMB

2230
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 2: is going to do his broadcast live from four to

2231
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 2: five thirty at Hinkle Fieldhouse. Than at five thirty we

2232
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 2: turn it over to the broadcast crews. The Bulldogs have

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01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,799
Speaker 2: won two of their last three. They will be hosting

2234
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 2: Creighton tonight with a six pm tip time here at

2235
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 2: ninety three five and one oh seven to five to

2236
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 2: the fan. If you're gonna be at home watching basketball

2237
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 2: on TV, you got a double header in the Big

2238
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 2: Ten to look forward to, beginning at six thirty I

2239
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 2: you will host Minnesota and Kevin. You cannot state enough

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Speaker 2: how important it is to not lose this game for

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Speaker 2: the Hosiers.

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01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah right now.

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01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 9: Joel Nardi's got them as the second team out of

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01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 9: the tournament, so they need help on their resume like

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01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 9: quality wins well tonight is not that, but it also

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01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 9: would avoid a stain on the resume being at home.

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Speaker 12: I don't know.

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01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 9: Quad two I assume would be the loss for tonight here.

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01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 9: So before you even think about at Ohio State on Saturday,

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Speaker 9: potentially a great opportunity for you, potentially opportunities in the

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01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 9: Big Ten tournament, you need to handle business tonight and

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01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 9: what will be It's kind of an awkward senior night.

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01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 9: It's like, I guess, we got six seniors that we've

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Speaker 9: known for six months that have.

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Speaker 2: Been in six Yeah, I guess about six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like what have they really? I don't know,

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01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: just and I mean that's kind of college. Thank you

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01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 1: for your money.

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01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 9: It will be my senior Basically, each Assembly Hall senior

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Speaker 9: night will be a little different than MACKI on Saturday,

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Speaker 9: is probably what I'm getting at here.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Purdue, they play tonight as well. They'll be

2263
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 2: on the road against Northwestern, a chance to get right.

2264
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 2: They've lost three of their last four. That'll be on

2265
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 2: BTN right after the Indiana game starts at eight point thirty,

2266
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 2: and then at nine o'clock tonight, Kevin will be front

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01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 2: and center on the ESPNU as Stanford plays at Notre

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01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 2: Dame nine pm start tonight.

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01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 9: I can't wait season sweep over the Cardinals when we're

2270
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:35,439
Speaker 9: going battle the nerds in the ACC.

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Speaker 2: And now I'll get you warmed up for a very

2272
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 2: late start for the Indiana Pacers, who start a four

2273
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 2: game road trip out West tonight. They'll be starting against

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01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 2: the Clippers. Chance to see a former Pacer player in

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01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 2: uniform for the Clippers tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Benedict Matherin.

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Speaker 8: I know, Kevin, I think you said twenty two and

2278
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 8: a half shots over under for tonight. I'm going under

2279
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 8: because Benedigt Mathern will begin to the foul line.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two. That's a lot of shots.

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Speaker 9: By the way, the points is nineteen and a half

2282
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 9: for those And by the way, they had Jackson also

2283
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 9: on the Clippers. He is getting no clock ten games.

2284
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 9: I think he's been available for I believe he's played

2285
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 9: in three of them and like combined for fifteen minutes total.

2286
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 9: So not really an opportunity that's opened up for Isaiah

2287
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 9: Jackson out there.

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Speaker 2: Ten pm airtime here on the Fan ten thirty start.

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01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam, Aaron Nei Smith, and Andrew Nemhart have all been

2290
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 2: upgraded to questionable. Of the three, how many of those

2291
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 2: three do you think we'll actually play tonight?

2292
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to speculate over injuries. We'll just

2293
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 1: see who's available. Jeff.

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01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 8: It's always a little bit tricky because questionable could mean

2295
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 8: a lot of different things.

2296
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about the tankathon earlier. I

2297
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 2: just love this stat of the teams that are all

2298
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 2: trying to position themselves for those four picks, those top

2299
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 2: four picks. Sacramento's lost two games in a row. They're

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01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 2: two to eight in their last ten. Brooklyn's lost nine

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01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 2: in a row. The Pacers have lost six in a row,

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01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 2: Washington has lost six in a row, Utah has lost

2303
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 2: six in a row, Dallas has lost four in a row.

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01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 2: Everybody is actively working to get one of those spots.

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01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 2: To your point earlier, James A, none of those teams

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01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 2: are good, but they're also not trying real hard either.

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01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, losing teams are losing. Breaking news all.

2308
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 2: Right, quickly, boys, Sectionals. I'm just gonna go through winners

2309
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 2: because they were a ton of games last night. Noblesville, Hamilton, Southeastern, Lawrence, Central, Brownsburg, Southport, Decatur,

2310
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Speaker 2: Central University, Cardinal Ritter, Franklin, Hamilton Heights for buff Cathedral,

2311
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 2: Bishop Schatard, Washington, Greensburg, Western Boon, Lapel, Purdue, Polytech, Broad Ripple.

2312
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:34,560
Speaker 2: Those are your winners last night in sectionals.

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01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 8: I did see that Kenny Moore than second I believe

2314
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 8: was that Carter Ritter last night, continuing his partnership with

2315
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 8: that school.

2316
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 1: He was there for the game. So shout out to

2317
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: the Kenny man.

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01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 8: Even you know in the offseason, he's still shown off

2319
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 8: for those kids and you go ahead, Yeah.

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01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 9: I thank you James for pointing that out. Also shout

2321
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 9: out Pendleton Heights Anderson. Richard Torres was on the coverage

2322
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 9: of this for The Star. I saw this great back

2323
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 9: and forth, Pendleton hits a bucket to tie it and Don.

2324
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 9: For some reason, the name Don Bowling is popping in

2325
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 9: my head. I hope I have that name right for Anderson.

2326
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 9: He hit like this fifteen foot floater at the buzzer

2327
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:08,679
Speaker 9: right in front of his student section.

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01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 1: They mob him.

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01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 9: It was just a great scene and very climactic moment

2330
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 9: here in sectional play. So it'll be another somewhat busy night,

2331
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 9: not as busy as last night, but then again, semi

2332
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 9: finals and finals coming up. Friday, and boy, it sounded

2333
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 9: like the mill was rocking. Greg Greg Strawan calls up there,

2334
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 9: Kyle Thenner up on the coverage, shout out to Bobby

2335
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 9: Allen and HSC and shout out to Noblesville Baron Walker.

2336
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,720
Speaker 9: Some big minutes there for the Butler products or the

2337
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 9: Butler I should say commit there late in the game.

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01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 2: I think I have to go watch Fishers on Friday night, too,

2339
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 2: don't I?

2340
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 12: So?

2341
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 9: Fisher's HSC will be the second game that goes without

2342
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 9: saying and HC gave them a great game earlier this season. Again,

2343
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 9: we'll see about the health of Kai McGrew, Jason Gardner junior.

2344
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 9: Some question marks there. And Carmel Doblesville. That's a student said.

2345
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 9: Noblesville student section is already chanting how much they hate Carmel.

2346
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 2: I like it all right. That's what's happen again in

2347
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 2: the world the sports. Anything else you guys want to

2348
01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 2: throw in before we head off to break.

2349
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: That's all covered. We'll just mentioned one quick thing over

2350
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 1: gamebridge Field House.

2351
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 12: Today.

2352
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:04,839
Speaker 9: We do have the Big Ten Women's tournament getting underway,

2353
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 9: So pacers out West Big Ten Women's tournaering you will

2354
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 9: occupy Gamebridge Field House. You've got Iu in one of

2355
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 9: the early games. I want to say it's three or

2356
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 9: three thirty over there, and Purdue one of the late

2357
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 9: games coming up. So not good seasons for Indiana and

2358
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 9: Purdue from a women's standpoint in terms of trying to

2359
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 9: make the tournament, so they'll be in the early early

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Speaker 9: games over there. UCLA is the one seed in the

2361
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 9: Big Ten women's tournament.

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01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 2: Yeap to your point, three thirty twelve seed Nebraska, thirteen

2363
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 2: seed Indiana, and then later on tonight at about eight

2364
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 2: thirty pm, number eleven Oregon against number fourteen Purdue. Again,

2365
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 2: that's just seeds within the Big Ten tournament. So that's

2366
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 2: what you're looking forward to over there. Coming up in

2367
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 2: a moment, more discussion on the Colts and what they

2368
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 2: might have ahead of them over the next seven days

2369
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 2: or so, and beyond, as Kevin said earlier, and beyond

2370
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 2: ninety three five and one on seventy five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: One of my all time favorites, Mark dyke th good song,

2372
01:50:58,000 --> 01:50:58,679
Speaker 1: good band.

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01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 2: Man, get your up up and running on a Wednesday morning,

2374
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 2: right there, Good morning, everybody, did you We haven't really

2375
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 2: talked about this and not really a big reason for

2376
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 2: us too, other than it was just fascinating to me.

2377
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves outfielder and designated hitter Yurickson Profar failed the

2378
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 2: ped test for the second straight season. He has been

2379
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 2: suspended for a full season for one hundred and sixty

2380
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 2: two games. I don't understand when you're thirty three and

2381
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: you've made tens of millions of dollars and you're fresh

2382
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 2: off a three year, forty two million dollars deal, why

2383
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 2: I'll never understand some of these things.

2384
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:35,879
Speaker 1: Why very costly.

2385
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 8: I believe he was set to make fifteen million this

2386
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 8: upcoming season.

2387
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: He will get obviously none of that.

2388
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 2: Now.

2389
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:43,719
Speaker 11: He's one of the biggest idiots in sports. It gotta

2390
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 11: be because they're like, you could have literally you could

2391
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:49,240
Speaker 11: have literally not hit a single ball this season, and

2392
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 11: you'd have made that money. But now you're not making anything,

2393
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 11: So good job, dummy.

2394
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 2: Can we He's just like a holdover for bad go

2395
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 2: to the Week, right, hey, man?

2396
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,679
Speaker 11: I mean if we could carry it over until Monday show,

2397
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 11: he was going to be because he's a complete moron.

2398
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 2: Man, we might put him in the Hall of Fame

2399
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:05,799
Speaker 2: for goats.

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01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 8: Bad just can't wait to see when Mark, when you

2401
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 8: could get a little older, they make a bad decision.

2402
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 1: Well, good job, dummy.

2403
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 11: He's made multiple bad decisions because millions of dollars and

2404
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 11: careers on your in your MLB career.

2405
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 9: You still hate in the World Baseball Classic quite.

2406
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: The scenes that I wasn't hating it to watch it.

2407
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean basically Kevin was saying you committed treason. Yes

2408
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: I was.

2409
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 11: I just haven't been able to watch any baseball spring training,

2410
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 11: so my baseball swerve has not been thirsted after yet.

2411
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 1: So I am ready for it, though, Zuki to scratch

2412
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: your itch.

2413
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 11: I just say to Zuki went Yard yesterday Joeli Erickson

2414
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 11: was getting my mentions? Did that get do it for you?

2415
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,839
Speaker 11: I'm like, I'm ready, I'm ready for baseball?

2416
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 12: Did it?

2417
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 2: Didn't? Tim Usa beat like a bunch of minor leaguers

2418
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 2: for the Giants nineteen to one or something yesterday?

2419
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: We'll warm up action there.

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01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, James, You've had I think a really good analogy

2421
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 9: this morning that one or nine o'clock audience maybe hasn't

2422
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 9: heard yet to think back on the Pacers. In regards

2423
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 9: to the Milwaukee Bucks situation, I don't know if it's.

2424
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: Exactly Apple stappens.

2425
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 9: But I think it's a good reminder of what can

2426
01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 9: happen when all of a sudden you leave the door

2427
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 9: cracked in professional sports for other teams to insert themselves.

2428
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 8: Yes, so if you are remember how the Miles Turner

2429
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:30,480
Speaker 8: free agency went. At the time that the Pacers were negotiating,

2430
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 8: the thought was, okay, it's us or like the Brooklyn Nets.

2431
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 8: I believe it was the only team that had the

2432
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 8: amount of cap space to acquire Miles Turner. In that scenario,

2433
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 8: it seemed very likely that Miles would just come back

2434
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 8: to the Pacers, get paid, and not go join a

2435
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 8: very bad team. Now he did join a very bad

2436
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:55,839
Speaker 8: team in hindsight, but let's continue. The Bucks did something

2437
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 8: that was rather unprecedented.

2438
01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: They waved Damian Lillard.

2439
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 8: They take all his money I think it was about

2440
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 8: one hundred million dollars and stretch it over the next

2441
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 8: five years, which in English means that they created enough

2442
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 8: cap space in a very weird way to acquire Miles Turner.

2443
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 8: So again, different league NBA to NFL, But because of

2444
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 8: how creative teams can be, and because the Colts left

2445
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 8: the door open ever so slightly for another team, to

2446
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 8: come in and poach Daniel Jones. You're at the mercy

2447
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 8: of a team perhaps doing something ridiculous to acquire him. Now,

2448
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 8: I know those listening and shout out to listeners here

2449
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,880
Speaker 8: for tuning in with us here nine through five, one

2450
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 8: to seven, five to fan.

2451
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 1: But my thing is.

2452
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 8: For as dumb I think as it would be for

2453
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 8: a team to pay Daniel Jones, let's say forty five

2454
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 8: fifty million dollars guaranteed over the next year or so.

2455
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 8: Let's not see here and act like we haven't seen

2456
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 8: NFL teams do dumb things every year.

2457
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 1: Like that's my one argument.

2458
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 8: Like, I've listened to the YouTube chat, I'm looking at

2459
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 8: the text messages, I'm online comments on the athletic and

2460
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 8: everyone's like, this would be so stupid.

2461
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: How many times have we seen stupid in the NFL.

2462
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 11: The Browns are raising their hand with the Deshaun Watson contract.

2463
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, do we know you think about impossible?

2464
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 8: It is always possible until you put pen and paper

2465
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 8: on a long term deal.

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01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 9: Well, desperation is very real, particularly in the NFL when

2467
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 9: this short shelf life I mean is there Kevin.

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01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 8: We're talking about a guy who played half a season,

2469
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 8: broke his leg.

2470
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 1: He's coming off an achilles tear.

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01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 8: Thankfully he didn't insurgery on both, just for the achilles,

2472
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 8: not the fracture. But my point is the league is

2473
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 8: so devoid of quarterback talent that the cults are saying,

2474
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 8: we will pay you at least thirty eight million dollars

2475
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 8: guaranteed to come back here because we don't want what's

2476
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 8: out there.

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01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 9: Do you think the Colts didn't match anything. And that's

2478
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 9: the difference between this and the Miles Turner thing. Miles

2479
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 9: Turner was an understrict free right he could leave by

2480
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 9: giving Daniel Jones a transition tag. The Colts have the

2481
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 9: first right of refusal. Again, they don't get draft picks

2482
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 9: if Jones were to join a different team. But let's

2483
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 9: just throw out this hypothetical team, a Minnesota Vikings.

2484
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 1: They somehow create the cap space.

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01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 9: They offer whatever, three years, forty five million annually, one

2486
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 9: hundred guaranteed.

2487
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: Do you think the Colts just sit there and say

2488
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 1: we'll match.

2489
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 9: We're trying to call your bluff, but no matter what

2490
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 9: you lay down, our chips will go in the middle.

2491
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 8: See, if I'm a cult, I'm saying my phone drop.

2492
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 8: Can you repeat those numbers again, throwing.

2493
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: Them throw them out?

2494
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 9: Forty five million annually, one hundred guaranteed, something like that

2495
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 9: three year deal. Do you think, no matter what Jeff

2496
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 9: you said, no, you have too many other needs, So jeff'son, No,

2497
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 9: the Colts wouldn't match.

2498
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 1: Do you think the Colts will match? No matter what

2499
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 1: I do? I do?

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01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 2: Do you think they have to at this point in time?

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01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 13: Yes?

2502
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 1: I think you put yourself in this position.

2503
01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 9: I think those are two different answers. But I also

2504
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 9: think will they and do they have to?

2505
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 2: I don't.

2506
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 9: Yes, you have to in a way because of what

2507
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 9: your words have been all along and all that.

2508
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 1: But like, technically you don't have to.

2509
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to. But I think they actually would.

2510
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 2: But here's what you do when you do that. You

2511
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 2: now you hit your wagon now for an additional three

2512
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 2: years to a guy who's never healthy at a position

2513
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 2: you can't find an answer too because you saw a

2514
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 2: guy play really well for eight games.

2515
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 1: If I'm Daniel Jones, I'm saying, hey, don't short me.

2516
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 1: It was ten games. But your point still staying the

2517
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 1: last two games weren't.

2518
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 2: That great before he got her? Maybe it'd had to

2519
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 2: do with the broken leg.

2520
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 1: I give him that, but I mean, hey, yeah, fair enough,

2521
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 1: fair enough.

2522
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 8: But my point is I think the Colts have positioned

2523
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 8: himself say he's our guy, and I guess to have

2524
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 8: a cop out answer a little bit there, and Mark

2525
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:54,040
Speaker 8: feel free to chime in as well.

2526
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 1: As long as the guarantees are over.

2527
01:57:56,840 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 8: After the second year, just hand you the check book

2528
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 8: and I will make sure that you are remaining in

2529
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 8: a Colts jersey for the next two years.

2530
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 9: Mark, before you time in here a Brandon's asking this,

2531
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 9: he goes, I don't think they'd matched. I think they'd

2532
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 9: take the picks. There's no picks right again, that's the

2533
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 9: differences a million dollar risk that we've talked about all

2534
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 9: morning long. If you would have bumped it up six million,

2535
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 9: then you would have got And now that gets to

2536
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,919
Speaker 9: a different discussion because then I don't think any team.

2537
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 2: That's almost that's almost a guarantee, right an.

2538
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 9: Offer sheep plus two first round picks if you were

2539
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 9: to walk. I just wanted to make sure we cleared

2540
01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 9: that up.

2541
01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 12: Mark.

2542
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 11: No, it's it's like the cults first round picks next

2543
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 11: year's they're not there. They don't get there's no picks

2544
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 11: to be had.

2545
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:40,240
Speaker 1: So I'm saying I think they match.

2546
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 11: No, I mean, I think it's I think it's insane

2547
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:46,879
Speaker 11: that they're in this position once again with the quarterback situation,

2548
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 11: because you're tying yourself to a guy who's never been

2549
01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 11: healthy coming off of torn achilles, and like we're dealing

2550
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 11: with the same thing with Haliburton. We're we're already thinking like,

2551
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 11: even if he comes back next year, it's the year

2552
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 11: after he's missed. It might take a year after that

2553
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 11: for him to be fully healthy, let alone a contact

2554
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 11: sport like football, So you might not even be seeing

2555
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 11: Daniel Jones at one hundred percent even when he is

2556
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 11: back from out.

2557
01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 8: There as well, Chris Ballart going into the final year

2558
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 8: of his contract. I'm matching, this is the quarterback I

2559
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 8: believe is gonna help me potentially get an extension here,

2560
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 8: I'm matching.

2561
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 1: But it's Carli Ersa Gordon matching. I think she actually would.

2562
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 9: These are all the discussions that I think have to

2563
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:28,320
Speaker 9: be very real.

2564
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 1: I know that is true.

2565
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 9: The Colts don't operate financially in the same type of

2566
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 9: boat as thirty one other teams, and to Mark's point,

2567
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 9: and this is maybe a bigger discussion for as we

2568
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 9: get close to the season. But what if twenty twenty

2569
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 9: six plays out almost in the reverse of this past year.

2570
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 9: Oh boy, oh boy, whereas the end record is still

2571
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:50,720
Speaker 9: the same, yeah sniffing eight nine wins, missed the playoffs

2572
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 9: by a couple of games. But what if Daniel Jones

2573
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 9: plays good football December January?

2574
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:57,839
Speaker 1: What if you win.

2575
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:00,720
Speaker 9: Four of six? You know, it was kind of a

2576
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 9: backdoor team this year. They got to like eight or

2577
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Speaker 9: nine wins, but they never were really a threat late

2578
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 9: in the season. Chris Baward and Change Sichin and company

2579
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 9: would say, look what happens when Daniel Jones got closer

2580
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:16,000
Speaker 9: to a full year removed from the twenty kies. We

2581
02:00:16,120 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 9: deserve another year. He's ascending. We know what second years

2582
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 9: look like post Achilles.

2583
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 2: There's a ninety seven chance that that happens.

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02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 8: The way things go, James, don't say, Jeff, if there

2585
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:32,800
Speaker 8: is a line out there are not the most cults

2586
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 8: thing in the world. If there was a line out

2587
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:37,400
Speaker 8: there right now for the Colts over under next year,

2588
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 8: it has to be eight and a half wins.

2589
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:40,520
Speaker 1: It has to be it is eight and a half

2590
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 1: actually but again but again doing it a little bit

2591
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Speaker 1: in the reverse.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, like, hey, now, you know we talked about all

2593
02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:49,080
Speaker 9: season long, we got to be a better team late

2594
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 9: in seasons, we got to do this, got do that.

2595
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 9: All of a sudden, what if they flip that script

2596
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 9: Chris Boward getting an extension.

2597
02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 11: It's just a never ending headache, Like I'm getting a

2598
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 11: headache just thinking about it, because it's it's like we keep.

2599
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,839
Speaker 1: Doing the same song and dance and the word extension

2600
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't be attached all right now, but we all need

2601
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 1: a snort of mvu profen.

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02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 2: During the break, Kirka has an interesting thought on the

2603
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 2: text line when it comes to now free agent Alec Pierce.

2604
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:19,280
Speaker 2: He says, in the customer service world a motto we

2605
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:21,800
Speaker 2: have never give a customer a chance to get great

2606
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:24,680
Speaker 2: service elsewhere. Same with free agency.

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Speaker 9: Oh what a bar and you said, Kirk Kirk Kirk,

2608
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 9: very good on that, And again in professional sports, desperation

2609
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 9: is about the realist thing out there. Oh yeah, and

2610
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:37,040
Speaker 9: if you leave the door, and right now there's no

2611
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 9: one that has the door more open than al Piers.

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Speaker 4: You know.

2613
02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 9: Again his discussion is different. The Colts can match Daniel Jones.

2614
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 9: They can't match Alec Pierce. They have to feel very

2615
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:50,080
Speaker 9: good internally that they can get something done with Pierce

2616
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 9: and that they have a situation that's whatever stable, attractive

2617
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 9: enough for Alec Pierce to want to continue.

2618
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:55,040
Speaker 1: To be here.

2619
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 11: And I'm looking at some teams that have some French

2620
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 11: in some cap space. Oh boy, you talking about like

2621
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 11: A J. Daniels getting paired up with Alec Pierce and

2622
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 11: the Commanders. You don't think the Raiders want to have

2623
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:06,880
Speaker 11: a number one wide receiver for Fernando.

2624
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:07,919
Speaker 1: Windows in the Chargers.

2625
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean there are suitors out there where the

2626
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:13,560
Speaker 11: grass is greener for Alec Pearce Kevin.

2627
02:02:13,600 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 2: I tell my kids all the time, whenever you have

2628
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 2: an opportunity to eliminate chaos from your life, do that

2629
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 2: thing right. There are things we can all do every

2630
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 2: day where Okay, I'm not giving myself even a chance

2631
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:27,440
Speaker 2: for something bad to happen by doing this thing right.

2632
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 2: It feels like the way the Cults have gone about this,

2633
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 2: they've opened up potential chaos if they don't get what

2634
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 2: they want done with Alec Pierce.

2635
02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:39,400
Speaker 1: I'd argue it's been a lot of chaos over the

2636
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:42,160
Speaker 1: last five years old, gonna say, oh, tell my future kids,

2637
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 1: go where the money is. Pops can't pay every bill,

2638
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:46,400
Speaker 1: so you need to get your own.

2639
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:50,440
Speaker 2: It's like Shaq telling his kids, right, no, I'm rich. Ye,

2640
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:54,200
Speaker 2: we are not rich exactly, I'm rich. Mark has that

2641
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 2: discussion already. He started with the kids already, haven't you.

2642
02:02:57,200 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 1: No, I'm definitely not rich. They might have more money

2643
02:02:59,560 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 1: than I do.

2644
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about a very exciting fan event coming

2645
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 2: up in a moment at ninety three five and one

2646
02:03:05,320 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 2: oh seven five the fan.

2647
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 7: Do you still have your juju or shimmer to do this?

2648
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 2: Mark? I dig it, But I feel like you're coming

2649
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 2: up a little angst this morning, good angst, positive angst.

2650
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:20,880
Speaker 2: A lot of energy there today. I like that.

2651
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:22,160
Speaker 1: I feel like we're in the Colts.

2652
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 11: We're in the Colts circle of suck, where we're just

2653
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 11: kind of circling the drain and figuring things out, like, well,

2654
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:29,360
Speaker 11: this isn't the best plan, but I guess it's what

2655
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:30,200
Speaker 11: we have to do.

2656
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:31,800
Speaker 1: So that's where we are right now.

2657
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 2: The next seven days will be more than interesting, James Boyd.

2658
02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:37,400
Speaker 2: More than interesting.

2659
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:40,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, one of those things where you just kind of

2660
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 8: have to wait around to see what other dominoes fall

2661
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 8: now that the big one with the tag decision has

2662
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 8: fallen in order.

2663
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:51,320
Speaker 2: How do you think this all goes down, Kevin? It's

2664
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,800
Speaker 2: hard to predictause other teams get involved. But from a cult.

2665
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 9: Speer, yeah, I mean, I still assume Jones's back pierces

2666
02:03:57,080 --> 02:04:00,560
Speaker 9: the unknown for me, Boy, he'd be oil is held

2667
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:01,800
Speaker 9: to Indy if he comes back here.

2668
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 1: You must really like the golf courses in town.

2669
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:08,680
Speaker 8: Well, you know his brother goes to school at Purdue.

2670
02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 8: We'll transfer to Purdue to continue his basketball career, so

2671
02:04:13,240 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 8: for one year that could be in the same state.

2672
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 9: Some of your colleagues need to worry about me the

2673
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 9: report on that James, I'm not gonna go there, so yeah,

2674
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:26,000
Speaker 9: I uh I Colts should put him on the side

2675
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:27,120
Speaker 9: of the building if he comes back.

2676
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm half joking.

2677
02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:30,680
Speaker 9: How serious about a side building? Now he's a partner

2678
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:35,160
Speaker 9: for Alex Peers were taken down? Is the bracket going

2679
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:36,720
Speaker 9: up on the JW. Marriott already?

2680
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 2: Do we do? Just put something up next to the

2681
02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:39,120
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning statue?

2682
02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 9: And I need to put Alec Pears there by the way,

2683
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:42,960
Speaker 9: who needs it worse?

2684
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 1: Tonight? Indian to Purdue.

2685
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say Purdue the sanity of their fans, because.

2686
02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 8: I do think that I you ultimately will not make

2687
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 8: the tournament, and they I was. I was there once

2688
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:59,520
Speaker 8: he lost Northwestern. I was like, all right, this team

2689
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:02,560
Speaker 8: is playing with their food too much. They don't necessarily

2690
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,120
Speaker 8: deserve to be in they.

2691
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 2: Are they playing with their food food at this point.

2692
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very good point as well. So I'll

2693
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 1: go with Purdue. Purdue.

2694
02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 8: You you have obviously much higher expectations in the way

2695
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 8: you've played as of late, have not met any of them,

2696
02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 8: or haven't even come close.

2697
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 9: Mark maybe some point tomorrow. Matt Paynter had a long

2698
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 9: answer in regards to Braden Smith some of the social

2699
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:30,160
Speaker 9: media chatter around the produced star and really just kind

2700
02:05:30,160 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 9: of present day college athletics a little bit of that

2701
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 9: of like, and I don't know, may it's a bigger

2702
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 9: summer topic, but like, because they're now get paid, are

2703
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 9: you allowed to say some things that maybe you wouldn't

2704
02:05:41,600 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 9: have said previously? And obviously there's a line that you

2705
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:47,560
Speaker 9: should not ever cross or maybe abundantly clear.

2706
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:50,680
Speaker 1: I hated that play. Matt Painter called that was my fault.

2707
02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 9: But are we there with a little bit of produced

2708
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:56,280
Speaker 9: issues right now, So very long answer for Matt Painter.

2709
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:57,640
Speaker 1: May will play tomorrow all right.

2710
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