1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Line from the Hartliner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, day thirty six of the shutdown. But 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: it's over, so it doesn't matter. Oh, it's absolutely over. Oh, 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: everybody's already talking that the cat is out of the bag. 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: Three funding bills. 7 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: Are now on the table a bipartisan group of senators, 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Newsmax reporting working to end the government shutdown. Three appropriations 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: bills would be passed to fund a whole bunch of 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: agencies for a full year, temporarily reopened the rest of 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: the government. This corning to the Washington Post, and Senate 12 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Republicans would agree to hold a future vote on extending 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act subsidies. 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Which why in the world, why in the world did 15 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: we have to wait this long? 16 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Because election day was yesterday and it is obvious. The 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: most important lesson you can take from this election is 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: not that Abigail Spamberger won the Virginia governor's race. Not 19 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: that Jay Jones, a guy who wanted to kill the 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Republican leader in the House and his kids, the Democrat, 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: becomes the Attorney General elect. Not that Mickey Cheryl wins 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: the governor's race, the Democrat does in New Jersey. Not 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: that Zoronmum Donnie is the mayor elect in New York 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: and these people elected a communist Ney Islamist twenty four 25 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: years after September eleventh. 26 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's not even that. 27 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: When Democrats have the opportunity to redistrict, they do it, 28 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: and only Republicans haven't figured out how to act like 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: normal people. No, no, no, no, no, no, no learning lesson. 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: The story is that the Democratic Party. 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: Does not care what they have to do as long 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: as they win power at all cost, power at every cost, 33 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: power and nothing but power. 34 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: That is it. 35 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: That's why President Trump is losing his mind on the 36 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: freaking filibuster. 37 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: It's time for Republicans to do what they have to do, 38 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: and that's terminate the filibuster. It's the only way you 39 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: can do. 40 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: And if you don't terminate. 41 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: The filibuster, you'll be in bad shape. We won't pass 42 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: any legislation. There'll be no legislation passed for three in 43 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: a quarter. We have three and a quarter years, so 44 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 3: I s it's a long time. But when they can't 45 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: do an extension and John, I think they've done an 46 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: extension every single time they've ever been asked forever. This 47 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: is the first time they haven't done an extension. Extensions 48 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: are supposed to be easy. But if they won't do 49 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: an extension, they won't do any bill. Simple bill. And 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: we should do our own bills. We should get out, 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: we should do our own bills. We should open up. 52 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: We should start tonight with the country's open congratulations. 53 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: Then we should pass a voter ID. We should pass 54 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: no mail in voting. 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: We should pass all the things that we wanted to pass, 56 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: make our elections secure. And say, because California is a disaster, 57 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: many of the states are disasters. But can you imagine 58 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: when they vote almost unanimously against voter ID. All we 59 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: want is voter ID. You go to a grocery store, 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: you have to give ID. You go to a gas station, 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: you give ID. But for voting, they want no voter ID. 62 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: It's only for wonder is it because they cheat? We 63 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: would pass that in fifteen minutes. 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: The only reason not to want voter ID is because 65 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: you want the opportunity for fraud. It goes without saying 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: a Senator John Kennedy on the filibuster. 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: He called me ixpoint him. I said, I'm mister President. 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: The job of a senator is not just to advance 69 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: good ideas. The job of a senator is also to 70 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: kill bad ideas. 71 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 5: And how do you take care of response? Well, I 72 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: like you would expect. Well, he didn't. He wasn't unhappy. 73 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 5: I mean, the president didn't yell or anything. Of course, 74 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 5: there's all He's never yelled at me. It's always the first. 75 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: Time, you know. But he doesn't agree with me, and 76 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: sometimes the reasonable people disagree. But my personal opinion, I 77 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: could be wrong, but I doubt it. We're not going 78 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: to change the filibuster or the blue slip while we're 79 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: in charge during year or my natural lifetime. 80 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: So that so that's that Republicans are not interested in 81 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: this filibuster change. But there's an argument to be made 82 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: that again, when Democrats get power and they'll do anything 83 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: for the power, they'll do anything, and this shutdown is. 84 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: Proof of it. There's a real you got to take 85 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: in this moment. 86 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Speaker Mike Johnson outside with fellow Republicans addressing day 87 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: thirty six of the shutdown. 88 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 6: Joining us today. 89 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 7: As you can see, are some of the arising stars 90 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 7: in our party. These are Republican members of the sophomore class. 91 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 6: They're in their second term. 92 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 7: Many of them been working so hard for the last 93 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 7: several weeks in their districts, trying to help their constituents 94 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 7: navigate the chaos as it had been created by the 95 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 7: Democrats shutdown. We're now on day thirty six, and it 96 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 7: is a sad landmark in our history. This is the 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 7: longest shutdown of any government in our history. And they've 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 7: also made history in a number of ways, which we've 99 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 7: recounted every day in our daily press conferences. Remember, this 100 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 7: is the first time in the history of America that 101 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 7: any party has had the audacity to close down the 102 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 7: government over a totally clean, non partisan continued resolution. I 103 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 7: said yesterday, and I'm being honest, none of us imagined 104 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 7: that we would be here at this moment. We could 105 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 7: have imagined the Democrats would be willing to force families 106 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 7: to go hungry and workers to miss paychecks for fifty 107 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 7: five weeks on end of fifty days plus. And we 108 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 7: never did imagine that they would be willing to use 109 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 7: the pain of American families with such reckless disregard. But 110 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 7: that is what we are seeing, and it is unconscionable. 111 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 7: Despite the fifteen opportunities they have now had to reopen 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 7: the government, they have voted fifteen times to keep it closed. 113 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 7: That is the number that everyone has to pay attention to. 114 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 7: All the Americans who are hurting because of this, they 115 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 7: need to understand. Republicans have voted fifteen times to open 116 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 7: your government, and the Democrats have voted fifteen times to 117 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 7: close it. They voted to deny paychecks to workers, to 118 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 7: stop the flow of snap funds to hungry families, and 119 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 7: all the rest. And still, somehow they have the audacity 120 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 7: to go on national television and gaslight the American people 121 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 7: and try to pretend that somehow the Republican Party has 122 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 7: some blame in this. It's the most outrageous example of 123 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 7: biblical gaslighting that we have ever seen. And day after 124 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 7: day they have claimed, without any merit at all, this 125 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 7: shutdown is somehow about healthcare. It's a blatant lie, and 126 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 7: they know it. They tried to string together two totally 127 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 7: unrelated issues, the expiration of the Obamacare COVID subsidies and 128 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 7: the basic funding of the federal government. Those are two 129 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 7: totally distinct things. Republicans have always been willing to have 130 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 7: a conversation about the COVID Era subsidies and how to 131 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 7: make Obamacare and healthcare more affordable. But we will not 132 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 7: and we should not do so as hostages in their 133 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 7: political game. It was in no way necessary or appropriate 134 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 7: to shut down the government in order to have bipartisan 135 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 7: discussions about the subsidies. The reality is the Democrats could 136 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 7: have avoided all of this chaos and all the pain 137 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 7: everything they've inflicted on American families by simply voting to 138 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 7: back the clean, nonpartisan continued Resolution. 139 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: But that's not what they wanted. And now you know 140 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: they'll be of the vote. 141 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: Now you know what they wanted was power and anything 142 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: for it. Keep the government closed so you can gen 143 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: people up to win elections in Virginia. Fine, think of 144 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: the strategy involved here, Think. 145 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: Of the long play here. 146 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: If you view everything in terms of well Trump won, 147 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: that's not winning. 148 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: It's not now. 149 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: This was an off your election with Republicans having control 150 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,359 Speaker 1: of the House, the Senate, and the presidency. 151 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: It was a very very hard hard put to make. 152 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: Jack Chiarelli in New Jersey might be a nice enough guy, 153 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: but his career is done. There was a real animosity 154 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: toward Winsome Earl Sears, the lieutenant governor Republican in Virginia. 155 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: But what makes rational sense of voting for Jay Jones 156 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: as Attorney General in Virginia a guy who wished death 157 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: on and wanted to kill the Republican Speaker. 158 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: Of the House and his kids. 159 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: As much as there is this takeaway about Democrats will 160 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: do anything for power, there's something to be said about 161 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: what people are willing to. 162 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: Look the other way on. And it's horrifying. 163 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: And yes, the j Jones and Zaron Mundani, they picked 164 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: a communist in New York, they picked a guy of 165 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: fantasizes about murder in Virginia. Hang that around Democrats all year, 166 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five days, non stop. It's actually 167 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: election days in three hundred and sixty three days. By 168 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: the way, No. Third, twenty twenty sixth is the midterms. 169 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Every single day. 170 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: You gotta be talking about that NonStop, NonStop, NonStop. So 171 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: none of this is I can't believe it. Every part 172 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: of it is. This is exactly who they are. Anything 173 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: for power, doesn't. 174 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: Matter who they hurt for power, and when they have 175 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: the power. 176 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: They'll do anything, which is why Trump was talking about 177 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: the filibuster. 178 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's exactly why he's talking about it. 179 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 7: Back to the Speaker, the twenty four page simple document, 180 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 7: just as they did thirteen times under the Biden administration. 181 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 7: They could have passed that forty seven days ago. After 182 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 7: the House did it. We did our work and sent 183 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 7: it over there, and we would have had all these 184 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 7: negotiations and continued. I'm going I'm going to wrap this 185 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 7: up and tell you again why. The big question is 186 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 7: why why would the Democrats have the audacity to do this? 187 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 7: As we summarize so simply yesterday and we will do 188 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 7: so every day. They are motivated out of fear. The 189 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 7: Democrats shut down the government out of fear. They have 190 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 7: never been more afraid at any point than they are 191 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 7: right now. They know, as we all do, what their 192 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 7: own polls show. The leadership of the Democratic Party is 193 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 7: the most unpopular with members of their own Democratic base, 194 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 7: and we saw that in the elections last night. 195 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 6: The old Guard is desperately. 196 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 7: Trying to use this shutdown to show the radical Marxist 197 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 7: wing of their party that they can look tough to 198 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 7: President Trump. That's because the new power center of the 199 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 7: left isn't the moderates. It's the aocs and the Bernie 200 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 7: Sanders and the Mamdanis of the party. It's the activists 201 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 7: who believe capitalism is evil, who disdain the founding principles 202 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 7: of their own country. 203 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 6: They claim that. 204 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 7: The salvation of our nation that will be brought about 205 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 7: by bigger government and more of bureaucracy. 206 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 6: Look what happened in New York City last night. 207 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 7: For the first time in American history, and avowed, openly 208 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 7: proclaimed socialists has been elected as the mayor of America's 209 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 7: largest city. Zoron Mondami is without a doubt, the biggest 210 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 7: win for socialism in the history of the country, and 211 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 7: it is the biggest loss for the American people. He 212 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 7: is truly a committed Marxist and the results of that 213 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 7: race tell you everything you need to know about where 214 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 7: the Democrats and their party are headed. From the backbench 215 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 7: to their leadership, Democrats have fallen in line behind the 216 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 7: socialist candidates. 217 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 6: Hakim Jeffries, as. 218 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 7: You know, is the highest ranking Democrat in the House. 219 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 7: He gave his full blessing to Mandami and his socialist agenda. 220 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 7: Chuck Schumer, the highest ranking Democrat in the Senate, and 221 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 7: the highest ranking Jewish leader in America flirted with endorsing 222 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 7: Mandami all the way to the bitter end. Never mind 223 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 7: the fact that Zoran has embraced anti submit rhetoric and 224 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 7: promised to arrest the Prime Minister of Israel if he 225 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 7: visits New York City again. And then there's President Obama, 226 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 7: who called Mondami over the weekend to extend his praise 227 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 7: and act as a sounding board for the young socialist. 228 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 6: You can't make this stuff up. 229 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 7: The man who made healthcare unaffordable with his own socialist 230 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 7: scheme is advising the man whose false promises will surely 231 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 7: make life unlivable for millions of New Yorkers who cannot 232 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 7: afford to flee the city. Have we said from this 233 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 7: podium every morning we talk about Mandami for two reasons. 234 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 7: It's a bell weather. Because House Democrats, many of whom 235 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 7: represent districts with much less blue than New York City, 236 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 7: have embraced him with open arms, and because his brand 237 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 7: of Marxism is truly a bell weather for the Democrats nationwide. 238 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 7: We pointed out that other major metropolitan areas in the 239 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 7: country are facing the same threat, with candidates similar to Mamdani. 240 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 6: And we're going to continue to call out their. 241 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 7: Effort to mainstream and normalize socialism and Marxism in America. 242 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 7: Working families watching this play out have a right to 243 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 7: know that socialism and communism are not just confined in 244 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 7: New York City. They are quickly coming to a town 245 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 7: near you unless you stand up and let your voice 246 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 7: of common sense be heard. 247 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: And that much is true. 248 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you shouldn't stand up and let your 249 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: voice of common sense be heard, but it's much. 250 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: Stronger than that. 251 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: It has to be much bigger than that. Certainly, you 252 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: have to show up and vote. Certainly, you cannot think 253 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: that everything is going to just go easily because well 254 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: they're crazy. Trump hate is working as a message. Hate 255 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: rots the brain, but it doesn't mean that it isn't 256 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: a strategy and it's working. So now, what's the plan. 257 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: How do you combat this? Well, you can talk about voting, 258 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: but I'm asking how you combat this? And there have 259 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: to be changes that Americans make to their lives, starting 260 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: with you don't send your kids these universities anymore. You've 261 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: got to be more selective, you got to be more picky. 262 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: You have to make changes for your family. If you 263 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: want survival for your family, a kid doesn't like. 264 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: It, who cares? 265 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, you can't go to Berkeley. What do you mean 266 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: you can go to I'm not paying for Berkeley. You 267 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: can't go to Berkeley. Do you love your kid or not? 268 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: Do you love your kid or not? That's the reality 269 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: that private school that you send them to, that's all 270 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: left leaning. I don't care if you want to graduate 271 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: with your friends. I love you too much. No, you 272 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: can't be around this stuff. I didn't say it wasn't hard. 273 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: I am discussing in a more general way that changes have. 274 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: To be made to how we do things. 275 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: My desire to change education is to break the teachers' 276 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: union in two. 277 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't work over. 278 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: Of course, there are places where kids have gotten a 279 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: good public school education. 280 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: My kids got a good public school education. 281 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: But that also has to do with parents who are 282 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: paying attention every day day and talking to their kids 283 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: and sharing with their kids, and keeping them on a 284 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: straight and narrow and correcting things here and allowing them 285 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: to engage there, not just leaving them to the forces 286 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: of whatever some radicalized teacher wants to discuss. And I 287 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: will state for the record I never once thought my 288 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: kids had a radicalized teacher. That is the anomaly, not 289 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: the standard. And if we just are people who look 290 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: at the data and don't engage anecdotally, our kids aren't smart, 291 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: they're not better off, they don't have any civic understanding. 292 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: The whole concept of public education doesn't work. But if 293 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: we are our job of public education is to keep teachers'. 294 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: Union members, you know, in jobs, well, then okay, except 295 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the job. It's not the job. 296 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: So this is an example of just the changes that 297 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: we need to make overall these embedded things that we 298 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: have to break apart. That is exactly what it is. 299 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: They're fighting. They want to keep everything as is. 300 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: As is isn't working. It's not. 301 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, bad loss yesterday, But expected question is what do 302 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: we do with it? I think we should be looking 303 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: at twenty twenty six, three hundred and sixty. 304 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: Three days from now, November three. 305 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: The midterms got to win, and in our personal lives, 306 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: we got to make changes to keep the madness at bay, 307 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: stop feeding it and watch it break on its own. 308 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. The latest reporting has the number of 309 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: dead at nine. This is horrific and if it was 310 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: an election day, this story would be getting a lot 311 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: more coverage. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be 312 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: with you. This is Louisville, Kentucky. A UPS plane taking 313 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: off heading for Hawaii crash just minutes after takeoff. You 314 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: can see video of the plane on fire and then crashing. 315 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: The fireball massive. 316 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: Nine dead, eleven injured, sixteen people are still missing. 317 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: This is horrific. 318 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: Governor Andy Basheer saying that they expect the number to grow. 319 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: UPS with a statement on their site, we are terribly 320 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: saddened by the accident tonight Louisville. 321 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: Our heartfelt thoughts are with everyone involved. 322 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: UPS is committed to the safety of our employees, our 323 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: customers in the communities we serve. This is particularly true 324 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: in Louisville, home to our airline and thousands of UPS ers. 325 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 2: There's no. 326 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: Word yet on what caused this crash. 327 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: I hate using the word it's an amazing video. 328 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: That's a pretty crude way to put it. 329 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: I don't mean it like that, but it is. 330 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: It's you could see the plane like it's trying to land. 331 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what it's doing. 332 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: Is it's taking off, is it landing at this moment, 333 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: looks like it's coming down. The left wing is on fire, 334 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: it's on the runway, and then I mean, and the 335 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: fireball just turns from one and then it extends out. 336 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: It's terrible. 337 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: It's just absolutely often we'll get more updates on this, 338 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: What took place, what happened. Is there anything to learn 339 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: from this? Or is it just some freak accident. Took 340 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: six hours to get this fire under control. Yet more 341 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: coming up. 342 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm turning to get out. 343 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: So is the president authorized to issue tariffs all by 344 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: his lonesome Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be 345 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: with you. That's the conversation. So you right now are 346 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: having or all are arguments today. Our arguments took place 347 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: regarding exactly this tariffs, whether or not the President can 348 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: utilize emergency powers to unilaterally impose tariffs. President Trump says yes. 349 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: President Trump is convinced the answer is yes. You got 350 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: Pambondi backing him up as the Attorney General and saying 351 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: absolutely that without being able to utilize the International Emergency 352 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: Economic Powers Act of nineteen seventy seven, the IEEPA. 353 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: Well, we're doomed. 354 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: Now there are other things that I think that he 355 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: could use, And certainly someone's going to argue that you 356 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: need a congressional approach, which is really the question. This 357 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: is getting argued in front of the Supreme Court today. 358 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: You've got John Sower, who's the US Solicitor General, making 359 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: the case, and you have the justices doing what justices do. 360 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 6: It's actually people who pays the tariffs. 361 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 8: If a tariff is imposed on either automobiles, who pays 362 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 8: them their DA Regardless who the importer of record is, 363 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 8: there'd be a contract that would go along the sort 364 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 8: of line of transfer that would allocate the tariff, and 365 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 8: that'd be different. Sometimes that foreign the foreign producer would 366 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 8: pay them. Sometimes the importer would bear the cost. The 367 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 8: importer could be an American, could be a foreign company. 368 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 8: A lot of times it's a wholly owned American subsidiary 369 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 8: of a foreign. 370 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: Corporation, so it gets allocated. 371 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 8: The pure blessment has ranged from like thirty percent to 372 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 8: eighty percent of like how much is worn by I. 373 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: Mean, it's been suggested that the tariffs are responsible for 374 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: significant reduction in our deficit. I would say that's raising 375 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: revenue domestically. 376 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 8: There certainly is an incidental and collateral effect to the 377 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 8: tariffs that they do raise revenue, but it's very important 378 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 8: that they are regulatory tariffs, not revenue raising tariffs. And 379 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 8: the way you can see this, I think if you 380 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 8: look at this policy, this policy is by far the 381 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 8: most effective if nobody ever pays the tariffs. And I 382 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 8: say two policies, right, So if you look at the 383 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 8: trade deficit emergency, if nobody ever pays the tariffs, instead 384 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 8: Americans direct their consumption towards American producers and stimulate the 385 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 8: rebuilding of our hollowed out manufacturing base, then the policy 386 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 8: is by far the most effective. 387 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 9: So a tariff that why not do what the statute 388 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 9: permits our importation of products altogether? That would be the 389 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 9: most effective way to do it. 390 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: That was Sonya. So to my ore, this is how 391 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: these kinds of things work. The argument that the President makes, 392 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: as I look at it, is based on the idea 393 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: of emergency. If we are going to decide that there 394 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: are indeed emergency powers, well then we have to answer 395 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: the question who decides what is an emergency? I believe 396 00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: that question gets answered outside of any exact existing law, 397 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: by the people who did the voting the answer regarding 398 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: do we have an emergency at the border, which I. 399 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: Believe the answer. 400 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: Is, oh, gosh, yes, who decides that? How is that 401 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: not the President of the United States? How is that 402 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: not the chief executive? Now, declaration of war is different. 403 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: It is spelled out in the Constitution that only Congress 404 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: can declare war. 405 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: Congress must be the ones to declare war. 406 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: Then the commander in chief is in charge of the 407 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: military forces. But there is no question that if you 408 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: are not able to declare war and there is some 409 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: level of invasion, that the commander in chief is absolutely 410 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: responsible in acting in order to preserve the republic. Article four, 411 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: Section four says as much to protect the nation from invasion, 412 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: guaranteeing a republic form of government. Now, by the way, 413 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: that is the pretext I believe to deal with Islamis 414 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: and communists. We have a republic form of government and 415 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: it cannot be changed. That's our constitution. That's the writer 416 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: died boo boo. Everything else really does germanate and emanate 417 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: from that. If we don't have the republic form of government, 418 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: you don't have free speech, you don't have Second Amendment, 419 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: you don't have search and seizure protections, soldiers quartered in 420 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: your home. We forget about the Third Amendment being something 421 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: that was really important. I mean, it didn't make it 422 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: to number three. So the question is who declares the emergency? 423 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: And I do not know as a layman, right, I'm 424 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: not a lawyer. It's you and me on a barstool 425 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: having a bourbon. How can it not be the elected 426 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: representative in charge of the executive branch. Someone had once 427 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: floated when we were talking about classified documents. Look at 428 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: all these classified documents, and Donald Trump had classified documents 429 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: in mar lago. Donald Trump was the president of the 430 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: United States. It's very possible he took documents with him. 431 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 1: And it's very possible that the taking of the documents 432 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: is de facto the declassifying of them. Oh I don't 433 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: like it, Please don't get me wrong. I am discussing 434 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: the legality. When Joe Biden had classified. 435 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: Documents, he had no right to have them. 436 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: When Donald Trump had classified documents, I may not like 437 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: that he had them, but he very well could have 438 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: had and I do believe did have the right to 439 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: have them. That as the chief executive, he could declassify 440 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: anything he chooses. Any time he wants, and by taking 441 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: of the documents, he did indeed declassify them. Now, that 442 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: could have other repercussions down the road. But this is 443 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: my take because if the argument is, well, we need 444 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: a system to declassify, what do you mean we need 445 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: a system to declassify some perfunctory Somewhere some guy, a sniveling, 446 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: little bureaucratic moron yuts is in an office deciding whether 447 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: the duly elected President of the United States, the chief 448 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: executive of the United States, the commander in chief of 449 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: the Armed Forces gets that guy who's unelected, who sits 450 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: in office gets decide whether the president can declassify something. Well, 451 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: let me make sure all the PaperWorks in order here 452 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: and you have everything right, mister President. You don't want 453 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: to make any mistakes. I'm not you see it didn't 454 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: date this in the right place. You're gonna have to 455 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: resubmit this. That'll be three to six months. I'm assuming 456 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: that's the way one of those guys kind of kind 457 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: of talks, right, one of those weasley kind of guys. 458 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: That can't be the way it works. We elect the answer, 459 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: the president decides. You can disagree regarding the concept of 460 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 1: an emergency that would require the tariffs. I accept, like 461 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: a rational person that there could be serious disagreement on 462 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: this subject. Can we really discuss that there would be 463 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: somebody else other than the President to determine how to 464 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: engage the emergency? Who decides what the unusual and extraordinary 465 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: threat is? 466 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: The actual act, the. 467 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: International Emergency Economic Powers Act of nineteen seventy seven says 468 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: the Congress gave the President the sweeping powers to deal 469 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: with and I quote, any unusual or extraordinary threat with 470 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: respect to which a national emergency has been declared. 471 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: Now, there has been the. 472 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: Declaration of a series of emergencies that have been utilized, 473 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: that have been put forth by the administration to satisfy 474 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: requirements just like this. Now, what you heard from Sonya 475 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: Sodoma or her argument is why not just. 476 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: Prohibit the goods from coming in? 477 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: Because when the President declares an emergency, he has the 478 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: power to investigate, regulate, or prohibit imports. 479 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: Now, regulate could be seen. 480 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: As tariff, but the word tariff or tax does not 481 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: appear in the statute. So the administration is arguing that 482 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: regulate de facto means that. 483 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: So this goes back to. 484 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: What Sonya Sono Mayor was saying, if indeed the best 485 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: way around the tariffs is not to buy the non 486 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: American good, why allow the non American good to be. 487 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: In the country. It is a legitimate question. 488 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: Now you know, I'm not a fan of the tariffs 489 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: because tariff's policy I think is garbage, and. 490 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: I think we've proven it. I think it's clear it's garbage. 491 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: Tariffs is tactic to get people to create better opportunities. 492 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: I think that matters, and we could eat easily argue. 493 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Maybe a better tactic is you don't get to sell 494 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: that here. Now, don't want to hear your crap. Don't 495 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: want to hear your complain Wait till I start talking 496 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: about your mother next. You can't sell it. You don't 497 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: treat us good, you don't get to. 498 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: Sell it here. End of list. 499 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: I do not think that we should be abused by 500 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: the communist Chinese screw the chi cooms, but we do 501 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: have to at least accept the idea that we've got rules. 502 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 2: This is not Vietnam. Now do the rules need changing? 503 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: Maybe we also have people who are more interested in 504 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: their own power than they are in dealing with the 505 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: chi Coom threat, and that's in and of itself a 506 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: problem Democrats. 507 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: But this case in front of the Supreme Court. 508 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Is very very interesting, and the oral arguments happening today 509 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: matter greatly. Some that suggest that the President Trump was 510 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: going to show up, Actually, Scott Bessett, the Treasury Secretary, 511 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: is there inside listening to the arguments. The president is 512 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: going to be Uh he was in Miami. He was 513 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: in Miami, so uh he he was not. 514 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: Able to be there. 515 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: But this this hearing it, this is big stuff and 516 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: this has real repercussions. 517 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 9: The question you follow the statue. The statute says the 518 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 9: president can do that. What it doesn't say is the 519 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 9: president can raise revenues. 520 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 8: What it says he can regulate importation and go years 521 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 8: the way you are it does. 522 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 9: They're hones seeing it subjecting some countries and not others 523 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 9: to importation. Binds has a lot of verbs, but none 524 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 9: of them include generating revenue as a side effect or directly. 525 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 8: Let me let me address that verb point if I may, 526 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 8: because think about the canonical example a statue that refers 527 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 8: to a list of swords, knives, daggers, dirks. 528 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: And pikes. 529 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 8: There you look at those that list things and you say, ah, 530 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 8: those are all weapons. Therefore a pike is a sphear, 531 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 8: not not a fish in that particular context. Now look 532 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 8: at this list of verbs, block, prohibit, capel, direct, and 533 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 8: so forth. You don't look at that naturally as an 534 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 8: ordinary reader and say, oh, look for all not revenue raising. 535 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 8: What you say is they're all very broad powerful. 536 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: You know, general actions? 537 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 10: Are these general the verbs that are in the statute 538 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 10: are actually doing something. I mean, they're in the statute 539 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 10: for a reason. And as I understand it, Congress actually 540 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 10: explained to us in its Senate Report and House Report 541 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 10: when it enacted the nineteen forty one Amendments. 542 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: To TWEA what it was doing. 543 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 10: It said that what we are doing is authorizing the 544 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 10: president and the Senate Report quote to control or freeze 545 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 10: property transactions where a foreign interest is involved. There's similar 546 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 10: language about controlling, freezing, control in the House Report. So 547 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 10: I appreciate that generally, you can look at these words 548 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 10: and you can imagine that they mean certain things. But 549 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 10: here we have evidence that Congress was actually trying to 550 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 10: do a particular thing with respect to the authority that 551 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 10: it was presenting to the President, and that thing was 552 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 10: not raising revenue. 553 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: But what's interesting is that there is no specific words 554 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: that says it cannot raise revenue. I think I'm reading 555 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: that right, and so the argument being made here is 556 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: that you have the ability to do these things as president, 557 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: but when you're raising revenue, you're going outside the scope. 558 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: What the what the Solicitor. 559 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: General is arguing is, I'm not quite sure it states 560 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: that it's outside the scope. Now maybe this is where 561 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is going to rule about what is 562 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: the scope, but I think it's an interesting argument. One 563 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: of the things about the Constitution that we always need 564 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: to get into is that it says what it says 565 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: and doesn't say was what it doesn't say, you can't 566 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: read things into it, which is why when we talk 567 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: about Obamacare. 568 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: One of the reasons I'm still so disgusted by. 569 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court decision on Obamacare is you read into 570 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: it that it's attacks. You decided its attax and the 571 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: federal government can engage taxation. That's gross. The Obergafell decision 572 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: on same sex marriage. I'm not bothered by two people 573 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: living their lives together. It's that same sex marriage does 574 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: not exist anywhere in the Constitution. And Obergafell reads into 575 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: it that it exists. 576 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: Go pass a law. I'm not stopping you. 577 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: That's the issue at play. You can't read something into 578 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: something that doesn't exist. 579 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: You can't do that. 580 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: Does revenue exist here? The fact that it wasn't written 581 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: in well, it doesn't necessarily mean that it can't be there. 582 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: Is that the argument that the. 583 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: Court wants to make. Keep our eyes on it, keep 584 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: it here. This is Tony Katz today. Find Everything I 585 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: do over at Tony kats dot com. So Democrats win 586 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: in Virginia, they take the governor's mansion and the attorney 587 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: general spot. 588 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy who said he wanted to. 589 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Kill a Republican's kids attorney general elect the Democrats who 590 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: win the governor's mansion in New Jersey, they're going to 591 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: redistrict California. 592 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: And yes, they voted for a communist in New York. 593 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: This happened. 594 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Take a breath, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to 595 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: be with you. Find everything I do over at tonycats 596 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: dot com. I can appreciate looking at this and saying, 597 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: my god, how ugly. My point to you is this 598 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: ain't nothing, meaning, there's nothing out of the norm here 599 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: for the. 600 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: Future, This is who they are. 601 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: What has been our argument. The only way out is through. 602 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: These are bad times, bad bad, bad times, and it's 603 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: not going to get any better anytime soon. We've allowed 604 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: our kids to be educated by progressives and communists and Marxists, 605 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: and they vote that way. Liberal women can be guilted 606 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: into anything and engage horrifically. You take a look at 607 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: the exit polling from this election. At least from what 608 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: I've seen, we have work to do, but the only 609 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: way out is through. These are hard times, and as 610 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: the expression goes, what we need to create are strong 611 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: women and men from it. We need to see our 612 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: way through this, and the only way we're going to 613 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: do that is together, honestly, clearly, and with fight and 614 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: with purpose. Because they aren't willing to do anything, and 615 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: when they get power, you will find yourself without any 616 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: They've said as much more on this than the days ahead. 617 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: Rest easy. Tomorrow's is another day. Find everything at tonycats 618 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: dot com. Tomorrow everyone to take care of