1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: So you've got gen Z flocking to China, Chinese medicine. 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: This as the trust in the US health system is plumbing, 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: and it's called chinamaxing, and it's a new it's a 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: new craze. Uh. It spurned on by influencers, and it 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: shows that a lot of Americans aren't just curious about 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: their wellness trends. They're projecting their distrust on the US 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: health health system onto everything else that they do. It also, 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe to younger people might feel exotic 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: or authentic. It's anti big pharma, so they're trying other alternatives. 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: This is this is a problem because we talked a 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. We had the passing of actor 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: James Vanderbeek. He passed away from from colorectal cancer and 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: there were reports that came out that said that he 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: passed on traditional cancer treatments and went toward more non 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: traditional Eastern homeopathic methods to treat his cancer and it 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: didn't work. We know Steve Jobs as well, when he 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: developed pancreatic cancer. It came out that he also did 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: the same thing. Didn't take the normal traditional Western medicine 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: roots went the holistic Eastern medicine route, and he passed 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: away very quickly after his pancreatic cancer diagnosis. So I look, 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: I look the US medical system. We got problems, Big Pharma. 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: There's problems. I'm not going to say it's perfect by 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: a long shot. But if you're having a serious medical issue, 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: one that is even potentially life threatening, as somebody who's 25 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: been through that, you find a new appreciation for our 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: medical system and our great doctors that we have here 27 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: in this country, and even find an appreciation for big 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: Pharma because there are drugs that not only can alleviate 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: your pain, but save your life. And if you're looking 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: to go down the holistic tea and herbal medicine route 31 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: and acupuncture in all of these things that don't have 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: the track record of Western medicine, you're setting yourself up. 33 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: And look, I get if you've got some chronic thing 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: that's not life threatening and you've tried doctors and everything 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: that they've suggested to you and it's still not working, Okay, 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: then I can see an argument for well, I might 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: as well give this a shot because I'm not getting 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: cured any other way. But when you're talking about life threatening, 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: life threatening cancer diagnosis. You are going to be very 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: appreciative at how good our medical. 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: Care is when you're talking about a sigmoid ectomy. 42 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, for example, somebody who's speaking of somebody who's had 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: two of those within a year. Yeah, you're really happy 44 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: that we do have the best medicine in the world. 45 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: Here. 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: There's a reason why people come from Canada and Europe 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: and Asia to this country to get medical care for 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: life threatening diseases, because we do have the best medical 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: care in the world. 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Yep. But still you've got these young Americans, especially gen Z, 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: that are embracing they call it TCM, traditional Chinese medicine 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: and also Chinese wellness practices. But it's you've got these TikTokers. 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: You know, they're encouraging gen Z to drink hot water 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: water or cupping therapy, and it's almost like it's an 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: act of rebellion against the US healthcare system. I think 56 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: it says less about Chinese medicine and more about how 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: badly Americans feel abandoned by our own institutional. 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: Jigyoh, you are stat You are spot on with that. 59 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: And we see it with politics too. We've seen distrust 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: in our political system, which is why you're seeing so 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: many people that are moving to be independents or calling 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: for a major third party in this country, it's very 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: similar thing. It's it's it's it's it's it's not an 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: indict it's an indictment of the way things have gone 65 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: here in this country. 66 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: You have to be very careful about how you romanticize 67 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: your health care or in some cases don't oversimplify it 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: because doctors have information that you don't and also years 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: of experience that even chat GPT doesn't have. Uh, maybe 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: it's something you do in tandem. You know, you want 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: to take personal responsibility. You have to make sure your 72 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: health decisions are grounded and evidence. 73 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: Evidence, scientific based evidence. And again, if this is some. 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't trust your life to a viral 75 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: fat fat. 76 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, or somebody on social media or a TikTok 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: video that you see, go see a licensed professional doctor. 78 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: And again, if this is a non life threatening problem 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: that you're having and traditional American medicine isn't working for you, 80 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: well then what do you got to lose by using 81 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: some Chinese medicine? But I think when it comes to 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: life saving care, you're going to be very happy you 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: don't want. 84 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: To follow the oversimplified advice from social media. 85 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: You're going to be very happy with the substitute the 86 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: wonderful doctors that we have in this country that are 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: do an amazing job and save people's lives every single day.