WEBVTT - The Boys Season 4

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<v Speaker 1>The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to another review.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna doing a season recap of The Boys season four,

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<v Speaker 1>season four, the whole season, so Spike and Nick they

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<v Speaker 1>review individual episodes on Patreon, So become on patroon patreon

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<v Speaker 1>dot com slash uh FBS podcast. But you guys went

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<v Speaker 1>all the way up to what what episode seven?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we didn't do seven to eight?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, all right, Well, yeah, The Boys Season

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<v Speaker 1>four takes place six months after everything that went down

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<v Speaker 1>in the previous season.

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<v Speaker 3>They you know, are working.

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<v Speaker 1>With uh, the Boys worked with the CIA to assassinate

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria Newman in an effort to stop make it over

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<v Speaker 1>the government. Uh. She is moving closer to the Oval office,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, under Homelander, who is trying to consolidate his powers.

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<v Speaker 1>And Butcher only has a couple of months to live,

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<v Speaker 1>so and he got kicked out because they tired of

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<v Speaker 1>his line and uh, and they're trying to save the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty much where we kind of start with

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<v Speaker 1>this one. What do you guys think about the overall season?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm gonna try to breeze through these because I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it shouldn't really take that long to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>in totality.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, what do you guys think of the oh,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole season ship?

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go then, I guess I really enjoyed it. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't like last season, and I I kind of just

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<v Speaker 4>gave up. I was like, I'm done with the boys. Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>was it last season or season two?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was season two.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're right. I think it was season two.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't like, and then something told me to go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead and watch season three. I don't remember much about

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<v Speaker 4>season three, but I remember thinking it was okay, that

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<v Speaker 4>was that was.

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<v Speaker 2>With social Boy. That's when we got to introduce to him.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what, I feel like I needed to

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<v Speaker 4>go back and rewatch the whole thing because I don't

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<v Speaker 4>really remember, but I must not have hated it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think you I think I remember you talking about

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<v Speaker 4>season three kind of brought you back a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more because season two went in a real interesting direction,

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<v Speaker 4>and then season three kind of brought things back.

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<v Speaker 2>They got season better.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, season two was with the Nazi chick, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that was storm Front.

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<v Speaker 4>Storm Front. I remember that. No, this season I really liked,

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<v Speaker 4>I really really like it all but one episode I really.

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<v Speaker 3>Liked what episode was that, the.

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<v Speaker 4>One with you where he was dressed up as the

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<v Speaker 4>other dude and they were in the basement an hour

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<v Speaker 4>This is a set episode wild. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I liked this season. It maintained the one in season three,

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<v Speaker 5>which I think with the better two seasons. I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>like season two that much either. They kind of meandering

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<v Speaker 5>around on a couple of things that I wish they

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<v Speaker 5>had just got to the end of before the season finale.

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<v Speaker 5>But all in all, I didn't have any bad takeaways.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I liked it with this show. As me and

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<v Speaker 5>Nick were discussion throughout it, like you get what you

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<v Speaker 5>sign up for, Like they're gonna do the voice.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't try to do anything different, and I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, it definitely started off then I

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<v Speaker 1>had Nick a little slow for me, but I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like right towards the midway market started to pick up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as it went along. But the first and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it just took a minute for me to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into this world. But the first two episodes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh man, this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>tough watch.

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<v Speaker 3>But overall I walked away and enjoying it for the

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<v Speaker 3>most part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think for me, I enjoyed this is the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth season.

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<v Speaker 4>I think right now one in three stand out to

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<v Speaker 4>me the most is like my favorites out of the four.

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<v Speaker 4>But it felt like they this season could have been

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<v Speaker 4>maybe six episodes instead of eight, like if they, like

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<v Speaker 4>to Mike's point, that one episode probably didn't need to

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<v Speaker 4>be there or could have been just like a one

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<v Speaker 4>scene kind of thing. There's some other pieces like with

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<v Speaker 4>Hughey's dad and all that stuff, like they could have

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<v Speaker 4>just like they didn't have to like kick that down

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<v Speaker 4>the line for like two episode arc or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think that where we where we started, where we

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<v Speaker 4>ended is where like that holds up the season for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything in between, which is was a little bit great.

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<v Speaker 4>I think episode four was a stand out to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when Homelander went to back to his home,

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<v Speaker 4>like his hometown or where he kind of grew up,

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<v Speaker 4>and that episode was really awesome. But I don't I

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<v Speaker 4>don't have any complaint about how they ended because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>excited for season five.

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<v Speaker 3>H Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode one, they kind of start to establish some things

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<v Speaker 1>or or remind us of some things, like we find

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<v Speaker 1>out Butcher had Butcher has six months to live. The daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>Victorian Numan's daughter has powers.

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<v Speaker 3>All kinds of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff happening in that particular fight. John Kenseler shows up

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<v Speaker 1>from The Walking Dead. Uh, is boy what is his name?

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<v Speaker 4>Is the name?

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<v Speaker 3>I know it, but I always forget it.

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<v Speaker 4>I always call him Egan. I'm trying to think of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Jean Dean. What's his name, Dean Morgan, Yeah, something like that,

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<v Speaker 4>Like his name a real old school white man named.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was surprised to see him here. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to heat level up a bit now.

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<v Speaker 4>He Eric Kripke is basically bringing like a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the cast back from.

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<v Speaker 2>Supernatural and different roles.

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<v Speaker 4>So he was a really on Supernatural before he was

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<v Speaker 4>on the Walking So he was there. That's why they

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<v Speaker 4>got the guy wh played Dean Winchester, he played Social Boy. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>the guy who played is it the President? The white guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Bobby Singer, Yeah, singer he played on Supernatural. To like,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of people that you will see that

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<v Speaker 4>like are coming from that that he's bringing into this world,

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<v Speaker 4>which is I mean, so it's not a surprise that

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<v Speaker 4>I saw him there, but I know y'all know him

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<v Speaker 4>from Walking Dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, now I'm like you, Nick, I know was

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<v Speaker 1>Supernatural then Supernatural and Deth for Housewives and of course Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>don't look.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a random can't I can't even laugh

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<v Speaker 4>because gras.

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<v Speaker 3>Anatomy, Gray's anatomy. No, I didn't watch house Wise.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried.

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<v Speaker 5>When the Black Man I locked in the basement, I

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<v Speaker 5>got out there. I swear, like, I'm not watching this.

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<v Speaker 4>I still it was hot, so I can't That's that's

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<v Speaker 4>my excuse. But it was out where everybody was on it,

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<v Speaker 4>like I was tuned in.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, wu I.

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<v Speaker 4>Got about it there early, like Lu said, once you

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<v Speaker 4>see the nigg in the basement.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, and you got to like, come on, brother, do

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<v Speaker 2>us like this? And nigga just locked in the basement.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and then we get introduced to Sister Sage,

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<v Speaker 1>who is this universe is mister Terrific, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>really super smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Black guy in the DC universe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think eventually they replaced him with another white guy

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be smarter than him, but nevertheless, he was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, but he's recruiting her to join the seven.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this particular episode, uh, you know, they introduced

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<v Speaker 1>us to the whole Hughey's dad storyline story arc that

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<v Speaker 1>stayed for damn. Then the whole season they brought back

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh's mom. But pretty much the thing that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>kicked things off was when the three supporters beat up

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<v Speaker 1>they had this ride and they blamed the Starlighters.

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<v Speaker 3>So so that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Any any key takeaways from episode one from y'all remember.

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<v Speaker 3>How much can y'all do? Y'all remember from the episode?

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the plot points everything, Like I know that

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<v Speaker 4>when one of the three people that they decided to

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<v Speaker 4>kill was mother Milk's uh his ex wife's lover, because

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<v Speaker 4>remember in the end of season three, Uh, he was

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<v Speaker 4>a part of that rally that when Homelander Laser being

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<v Speaker 4>that guy to death. He was actually there and he

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<v Speaker 4>was supporting Homelander on that. That's how he became a

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<v Speaker 4>Homelander supporter and got talked into going into that meeting

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff. That's just your say set up. So I

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<v Speaker 4>knew that was important and that tied back to the boys.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also found it interesting of like the Homelander

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<v Speaker 4>versus Starlighters, that that how much politically involved and kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like reflective it was about the times we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to now. I felt like that was interesting for them

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<v Speaker 4>to go through this season, And I don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>I feel about it as far as like if they

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<v Speaker 4>did it well, but it made the storyline a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more interesting as we progress through the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I guess because let's let's it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was something you pointed out, So let's let's talk about this.

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<v Speaker 3>This Hughey's that arc. So what kind of see we

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<v Speaker 3>get out the way?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hit some of the major plot points of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole season, which is probably a little bit easier to discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm kind of with you, Nick. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I really enjoyed that whole thing. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>understand the point of them doing that, basically killing his

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<v Speaker 1>dad off. They killed him, then they brought him back

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<v Speaker 1>with with this v thing. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 1>was to get Hue to finally forgive a train for

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<v Speaker 1>what he did. I don't understand why they did this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did. I was not a fan of this

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<v Speaker 1>story art at all or this, this this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It just felt like a waste of time for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Damn, I say, like, you don't. Yeah, I liked it.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was cool. I thought I thought I

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<v Speaker 4>always liked his dad. I thought his dad was a

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<v Speaker 4>really really interesting part of the show, and I never

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<v Speaker 4>really thought that they did enough with him, but his

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<v Speaker 4>dad trying to get a hold of Hue and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, having whatever it was, a heart attack or

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<v Speaker 4>stroke after that, and then Hughie having to feel the

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<v Speaker 4>guilt and then bringing his mom back and having to

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<v Speaker 4>go over that. I liked it. I liked it. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think it. I don't think it overstated to welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>They did just enough in the name, you know, got

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<v Speaker 4>rid of it. So I dug.

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<v Speaker 1>It, Spike, do you think they bailed the mom out?

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<v Speaker 3>And I noticed a little real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It might go sound fucked up, but I gotta ask,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think they bailed the mom out?

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<v Speaker 3>Saying that she had depression?

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess it was out of thoughts and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and while she was a shitty mom and

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<v Speaker 1>just instead of her just being a fucking shitty.

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<v Speaker 5>Mom, Yes, they did build her out. What did she

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<v Speaker 5>do with I forgot what that led to. Why did

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<v Speaker 5>they even I know, hughe didn't like her, it was

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't like because she had she had the power

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<v Speaker 4>of I think attorney over her.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he was I remember he was upset about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they definitely bailed her out on being just a

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<v Speaker 5>shitty person in general and blaming all of that on

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<v Speaker 5>just oh I was depressed, Like yeah, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 5>a real thing. I'm not not people depressed, but like,

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<v Speaker 5>come on, bro, come on.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think I think it was easy to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of go with her on that because you really,

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<v Speaker 4>to Mike's point, they did a really good job building

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<v Speaker 4>up his dad, so you felt like, I think Hughie

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't a good enough it would have been horrible. Was

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<v Speaker 4>a shitty mom and a shitty dad. Then you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, yeah you could. You probably probably could have

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<v Speaker 4>done something. But the fact that Hugh's dad was not

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<v Speaker 4>only so good at raising him, but also kind enough

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<v Speaker 4>to even allow his wife to have that privilege over

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<v Speaker 4>his son, like you would think that he would have

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<v Speaker 4>changed things up after all that happened, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>could see that play out when he was starting to

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<v Speaker 4>remember stuff. He went back to those feelings he had

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<v Speaker 4>when he first found out, like he was really upset

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<v Speaker 4>with her to the point he was like crazy enough

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<v Speaker 4>to kill her, almost kill her. But it does show that,

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<v Speaker 4>like he had to get over that hurt and he

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<v Speaker 4>got to that place, and then it.

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<v Speaker 2>Does merit to Hughie.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought Hughie got over his girlfriend dying by a

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<v Speaker 4>trant a while ago. I didn't know he was still

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<v Speaker 4>dealing with all that and it kind of just played

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<v Speaker 4>out to this season, so I hope not to hear

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<v Speaker 4>it about it again. But it was a good point

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of close up those loose ends about hugh.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like that they went with that angle.

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<v Speaker 1>In order to get them to make up so she

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<v Speaker 1>can be uh central parental figure moving forward with howing

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<v Speaker 1>many episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>They have left. If she was just shitty, they couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually come together, and you know, because he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh shit, I'm sorry about that. I ain't no damn,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I feel fucked up or having hatred towards you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they can basically make up because she wasn't shit,

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<v Speaker 3>but and.

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<v Speaker 4>She works at Vart still, so she could be used

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<v Speaker 4>in some type of plot line down the line too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, would you guys give you give your parents a

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<v Speaker 1>power v if you had a chance to save them?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not not that?

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<v Speaker 5>If I see what's happening in the Butcher and all

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<v Speaker 5>of that, Yeah, I don't know. I gotta be something.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, something gonna bad, gonna happen. So nah, I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't know anything bad it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Who took it? And nothing bad happened to him?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>What person is that that I missed it?

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<v Speaker 4>I am trying to think who I got to do

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<v Speaker 4>my research?

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<v Speaker 3>Spot wasn't preparing for you to ask that question.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe starlight maybe starts on them. But I mean she

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<v Speaker 4>was a baby when she was young.

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<v Speaker 5>All the soups start taking when they was young at

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<v Speaker 5>this stage, I'm not getting it to my dad because

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<v Speaker 5>he was saying what it did to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, kill him.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say Mike that when they basically put his

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<v Speaker 1>dad down, that was sad though.

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<v Speaker 4>It was sad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, but I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>His dad was was fucking people up. That whole fucking

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<v Speaker 4>sequence was hilarious. Hilarious to me. He was like waking

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<v Speaker 4>up in the middle of people destroying him. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>Because he was just about the scheme on that nurse too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, let's talk about a train. Mm hmm uh

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<v Speaker 1>a redemptionious story. I didn't know we would get. Why

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<v Speaker 1>the hell did they try to redeem a train?

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<v Speaker 4>Because he's the start of this whole thing. Hue wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be a part of the boys if a tran hadn't

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<v Speaker 4>a I'm trying to think of a phrase other than

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<v Speaker 4>ran through because I can already he had never killed

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<v Speaker 4>his girlfriend. Hue would never be part of this, So

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<v Speaker 4>I see why they picked a train, and a train

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<v Speaker 4>has kind of been I mean, look, he's been kind

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<v Speaker 4>of disrespected this whole time, him and the deep but

0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.080
<v Speaker 4>deepest just a punk about it?

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<v Speaker 2>True? M hm.

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<v Speaker 3>Did y'all like this whole thing with?

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<v Speaker 4>Though? I like his brother cussing him out every chance

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<v Speaker 4>he gets. There's only so much up with the fucking

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<v Speaker 4>chair talking to me like that. He means for me

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<v Speaker 4>push his hair over. He was gonna say that down.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell to be fucking talking to me like that. And

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<v Speaker 4>you in that chair, I'm gonna pass a lot, br

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<v Speaker 4>I promise you you will be fifty miles an hour

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<v Speaker 4>in that chair. Keep talking to me like I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't mind a Train's redemption because I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't. Really, they haven't really been doing much with

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<v Speaker 4>his character up until this season. This is probably the

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<v Speaker 4>most Shane he's really gotten. And the thing is, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not like his I'm not sure if it's just the

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<v Speaker 4>acting of it or if it's the storylines that they

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<v Speaker 4>write for him, but he hasn't been compelling until now

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<v Speaker 4>to where like he's actually going against the system yep,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's actually uh, he wants to be a super

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<v Speaker 4>like he talked about that time when he saved mother's milk.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, the first time I felt good about

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<v Speaker 4>anything I've ever done. And and he knows how they're

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<v Speaker 4>using him. He gets talked down to racially all the

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<v Speaker 4>time by.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was the one bro at that party, Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>Tonight, Yeah, talked about like it was just like, bro, like,

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<v Speaker 4>how how can you how can you feel good about

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<v Speaker 4>yourself at all?

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<v Speaker 2>In this industry? At that job?

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<v Speaker 3>Knight said, he said we would, He said we would

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<v Speaker 3>catch you. He said, I feel like you would run away,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, but we will catch them eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>That ship was so fucked up, bro, How you tell

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<v Speaker 1>this dude? Day and all he could do. Nick would

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and say, I guess we'll never know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what money that ship was foul? Bro mm hmm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about you, Spike, I mean, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about a train's story arc? I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>needed because they underutilizing being he was the first suit

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<v Speaker 1>that we kind of met when he ran through, h

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<v Speaker 1>ran through your man's girlfriend, so breaking him back around.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he battled with it too much though you

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<v Speaker 1>would be a good guy bad guy, and I gave

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<v Speaker 1>I get the background. They did a good job of

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<v Speaker 1>knowing why it was a battle for him, but should

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<v Speaker 1>it get off the pot.

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<v Speaker 5>Either you're gonna do this or you're gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 5>So I feel like they took too long with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys really think Hughie forgave him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he had to. Yeah yeah, m hmmm, because

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<v Speaker 4>he went to go steal V from Homeland his crib

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<v Speaker 4>to go give it to him to save his dad.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what That's why I'm glad he said it too.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, bro, this is even we squared out

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<v Speaker 4>like laser being down right now. And he also helped

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<v Speaker 4>him out at the ice skating spot where he did it.

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<v Speaker 4>Reminded me, Mike, if you remember Spider Man, uh with

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<v Speaker 4>the first one with William William Foe when with the

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<v Speaker 4>blood splatter on the grid and he heard it. It

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<v Speaker 4>was the same thing with Homelander put together. Yeah, where

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<v Speaker 4>he was sweat. Yeah, that's like and he saved him

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<v Speaker 4>there because he was going I thought he was gonna die.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how he was gonna get out of

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<v Speaker 4>that situation, but yeah, he he. I guess as much

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<v Speaker 4>as you can make amends for that, like they're square down.

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<v Speaker 3>H Yeah, yeah, I supposed.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a Trent did a lot of fucked up

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<v Speaker 1>ship in this episode. He reluctantly had to kill the

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<v Speaker 1>three people in the first episode, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe when he was like, this is going too far.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering and we got the answer at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>If sister Sage which is a crazy name to call

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<v Speaker 1>her sister, uh knew he was the lead and it

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<v Speaker 1>almost seemed like they were looking at each others like

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking, you know, and the cold that black

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<v Speaker 1>people talk.

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<v Speaker 3>But she never snitched on him, but she kind of

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<v Speaker 3>what who.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, She kind of addressed it at

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<v Speaker 2>the end.

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<v Speaker 4>She was like or her when when Homelander fired her,

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<v Speaker 4>she was like, I knew he was the league. I

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<v Speaker 4>just I was just using information to send to their camp,

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<v Speaker 4>which y'all fucked up now yep. So like she because

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<v Speaker 4>she kept on going up to him, she she dropped

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<v Speaker 4>him and he knew they was dropping Like yeah, and

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:19.879
<v Speaker 4>she was. But she's obviously as the smart person that

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<v Speaker 4>she is, like she played it. She used it to

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<v Speaker 4>her advantage up until it wasn't. But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>ask him, is her outfit made out of Gucci? Because

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<v Speaker 4>I swear somebody, so that's that's how it was. I

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<v Speaker 4>thought her outphare was made out of Gucci because like

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<v Speaker 4>if I swear when I was trying to look at

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<v Speaker 4>her her costumes, and I think that's why she also

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<v Speaker 4>she hated it. I was like, did they try to

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<v Speaker 4>be too on the nose with the other that's fallous?

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<v Speaker 3>Funt know, do look like that? But what dody'all think

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<v Speaker 3>about Sister Stage this season?

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<v Speaker 2>That was a good character. I liked her. I liked

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<v Speaker 2>her a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>I liked the whole I know Nick said that her

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<v Speaker 5>powers were using this, but I think, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 5>her being smart was good and when Nick and I

0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.920
<v Speaker 5>were reviewing it, like that's what he said to it.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think she did a good job of having

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<v Speaker 5>like not a oh I got you power as far

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<v Speaker 5>as it being her brain to how she used it,

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<v Speaker 5>like we've seen in the end, how it came through.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's crazy that she can burrow out her

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<v Speaker 1>brain and that shit grow back mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall I did like her. I was really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to understand her reason for being on that side, because

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<v Speaker 1>at times it made it seem like that she was

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<v Speaker 1>against the system that she was working for mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it was a complicated position for her to

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<v Speaker 1>be in because there was the black and then there

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<v Speaker 1>was the woman part of it. When she was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to I think it was Newman and I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It was at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Party, and she was like she was understanding what she

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<v Speaker 1>was doing and why she was doing it, but there

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.359
<v Speaker 1>was like this bigger goal in mind, and that she

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<v Speaker 1>almost felt like she had to be on this side

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<v Speaker 1>in order the temple down knock down the system.

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<v Speaker 3>So I and is that did I only pick that

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<v Speaker 3>up or did anybody get any type of vibes of

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<v Speaker 3>that at all?

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder why she was with them, like you said,

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<v Speaker 5>but I didn't continue to think about it. I just

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<v Speaker 5>took her as a bad guy. But I did wonder

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:42.200
<v Speaker 5>why she was on this side. Well, for me, I'm

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 5>thinking about it for multiple reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is what I land on is that when

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<v Speaker 4>she did talk to Newman about her childhood and her

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<v Speaker 4>little backstory and how no, it seemed like it was

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<v Speaker 4>just a story about like how no one's listening to

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<v Speaker 4>a black woman, right, even if she had all the

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<v Speaker 4>answers and all that stuff, No matter what, they're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to listen to me. And it felt like when

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 4>homeland Er went to go recruit her originally that gave

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<v Speaker 4>her a purpose of like I could do something that

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<v Speaker 4>you'll finally be You'll finally have to value me somehow,

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<v Speaker 4>some way. Yep, because I'm because if I'm doing this

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 4>and I'm orchestrating all this, then I'll give my validation

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 4>that I that I've secretly been seeking but I never got.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think we just and then throughout the season

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:25.880
<v Speaker 4>we see how she copes with all that, like when

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 4>she does, you know, lobotomize herself, or how she does.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like there were some honest things that she

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 4>was saying to the deep when they were interacting, like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is just how I cope.

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<v Speaker 4>This is how I've been living, And it's hard to

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<v Speaker 4>be the smartest person in the world and no one

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.199
<v Speaker 4>give you credit for I for one and too you

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 4>never really can utilize it to your advantage because again,

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 4>no one's gonna listen to you. So it was just

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 4>like I felt like she and I think there's a

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 4>lot of characters you can say that about this, but

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 4>like they all kind of went against what they originally

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 4>wanted to do in the system, Like Newman was a

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 4>part of something that she didn't want to be, and

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 4>then you see how that affected her in the end.

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.879
<v Speaker 4>Butcher is now more so like the guys he's fighting

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 4>then hit the guys. The boys now people you talk

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 4>about you used to like when in the beginning of

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 4>the series, like I used to hate blood.

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I used to be, you know, be scared of it.

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm used to it. Like it's like a lot of.

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:17.399
<v Speaker 4>People have changed to decide they never thought that. I

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.400
<v Speaker 4>think that she's a reflection of all that for everybody

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 4>this season. Yeah, I thought this was just like she

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 4>got her first real taste of power. So that was

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 4>kind of why she stayed with the bad guys. I mean,

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 4>what was she doing before that? Did they even really

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 4>say she.

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:34.879
<v Speaker 2>Was in a house full of books?

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Like that's what I mean? So I think this was

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 4>giving her power. So I liked her character.

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting, but they used her up and still

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 3>fire her ass and she still ran ass right back?

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Is that happened in real life?

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.360
<v Speaker 2>But she planned for it though.

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's she's too smart to think that everything's

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 4>gonna go her way. She was like, I knew he

0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 4>was gonna suck it up because you're gonna be you

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:00.880
<v Speaker 4>and we still got here.

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, okay, okay, let's come to the boys. Did

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you guys like Frenchie and Comico's arc at all him

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 1>with this coling thing and killing family.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 4>Not French I like Comicos. I didn't care about Frenchies

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 4>because it was like it was like, this is the

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 4>fourth season, bro, you you you.

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Just that upset?

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 4>You killed all these people like we could have we

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 4>could have handled that back in season two anything like

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 4>to me, and then and then the fact that you

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 4>sleep with the dude that you killed.

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 3>It was like that was a weird part.

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 4>You know what I asked you to do that That's

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 4>that's how you make up.

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 3>For it, just gonna give you pleasure for the Risk family.

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:58.360
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying. It's like it was just kind

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.680
<v Speaker 4>of like I didn't realize. Like to me, Camiko made

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 4>more sense because it was like we finally got to

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 4>see more of her backstory and more of why like

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 4>she feels the way she does. But French, I thought

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 4>was like, bro, you I thought you exercised again the

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 4>same thing like with with a train with you, we

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 4>were forgiving. I thought you already got that out. Like

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 4>I thought we didn't pass that. But if if this

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 4>is what we're doing now, And to me, it just

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 4>seemed like they didn't really have much to do with

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 4>Frenchie and Camiko this season.

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>With more Frenchie than Camiko. But I mean, I guess.

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 5>I like Comiko's I think it paid off at the

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 5>end when she was finally able to speak with Frenchie's.

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 5>I agree with Nick, it's like that that's the season

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 5>one story, bro, Like you've been fighting for the good

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 5>guys for the last three seasons, Like why are you

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 5>mad now? Like Nick said, I thought, I thought you

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 5>got that out, bro, So for that to still be

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 5>such a major plot line, which it didn't work for me.

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 3>It worked for you, Yeah, I don't know.

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it worked for me very well. I think it

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 4>explained why Frenchy has been acting the way he's been

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 4>acting for the last three seasons, and it also especially

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 4>explains why he didn't allow himself to go all the

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 4>way there with Camiko, because he was battling something. I

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:16.479
<v Speaker 4>think them waiting until now to one reveal that he is,

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 4>I guess at the very least bisexual and too to

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 4>outline that he was a murderer and he's been holding

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.719
<v Speaker 4>this in for three whole seasons. Like if they if

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 4>they told us this in the first season, wouldn't have

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 4>no impact. It would be like, okay, I barely know

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 4>you who cares. But we've looked at him, we knew

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 4>he was three seasons. Yeah, but we didn't see it,

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 4>and we didn't we didn't really get the whole feeling

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 4>of he's been sitting on it and it's been weighing

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 4>on him. So I liked it, and I especially liked

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 4>the way they tied it with Comicos because yeah, I

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 4>like her arc, but I was confused about was their

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 4>sexual tension? Do they like each other like that? Then

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 4>I was like, okay, well maybe they're just friends. That's fine,

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 4>but it didn't make sense. So when they finally got there,

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, there we go. I get it. See,

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 4>to me, I was hoping that they would have tackled

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 4>this when I think she's Russian when his former the

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 4>woman he used to work with that I guess she

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 4>was the one that sent him on all those Assassin missions. Like,

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 4>well she came back. I thought they were gonna address

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 4>it then, because I always felt like French and Camico

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 4>had some type of chemistry or even was gonna lead

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 4>to something because they are always they always connected with

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 4>each other.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:36.199
<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't surprised by that.

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 4>I just thought that they were taking us on a

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 4>roundabout way of them getting back to where I thought

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 4>we were always gonna get by bringing up this dude,

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 4>bringing up his past and how this killing was, you know,

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 4>really stood out to him.

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>And then I did love the scene where Camiko.

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Was like waiting for him at the you know, the

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 4>correctional facility and stuff to go see him, and he

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 4>never wanted to see anybody. Those were good scenes, but

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 4>to me, it was just like, I don't know, I

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 4>just felt like, I don't know, I just felt like

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 4>we could have addressed this at that time when the

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.719
<v Speaker 4>Russian lady first came back, when it first reminded him

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 4>about all the stuff he used to do.

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, I thought we were going to deal with that.

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 4>Then what season was that?

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to say there was probably season two.

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, bro Like, if they did this in season two,

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't have had an impact.

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't think it had an impact though.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, man, I think y'all might be on

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 4>an island. I like, I liked, I like what they

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 4>did with Frenchie. At least I hope y'all are on

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 4>an island, because.

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen what people are saying, but it almost

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>seemed like they wanted to use that story to get

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>him to Comico at the end, and the only way

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>he could probably be with her is if he resolved

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the issues that he had with his past and make

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>amends for that when he actually revealed him revealed that he.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 4>Killed because how could because how could she forgive herself

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 4>if he couldn't forgive himself, you know what I'm saying, Like,

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 4>I get why it makes sense for both of them

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 4>and tied together. Just me with I'm just more so

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 4>focused on French. I'm like, bro, we could have I

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 4>would I would have wanted to see that earlier than now,

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 4>because I feel like we only we only got one

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 4>season less, so it's like we only got so much

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 4>storyline to really address, Like I thought we were kind

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 4>of get to the nitty gritty, like before it all concludes. Well,

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 4>I think we've gotten everybody's arc at this point. The

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 4>only person that I feel like has a kind of

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 4>a whack arc is Mother's Milk, and I don't even

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 4>care about him at this point. But I think we've

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 4>gotten Frenchie's arc, now, we've gotten Hughey's arc, We've gotten

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 4>Butcher's arc, and I think that they played it well.

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 4>They they they broke down these arcs over the course

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 4>of four seasons. If they rush everything, then what would

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 4>they even be doing now, Like Frenchie and Kamiko would

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 4>already be together. Whooped the fucking dude. You know. It's like,

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 4>let's let's I think that they did a really good

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 4>job of playing this out fairly slowly and I go ahead.

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Ken No no you finished?

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, I'm done. I'm just rambling that.

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seemed like Mother's mill roll this whole season

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>was just to wear hip hop shirts.

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 4>So fucking boring, y'all being too hard on brothers.

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 2>And trying to throw his family in that to make

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>it more interesting.

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 4>But did anybody care?

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 3>No, because he didn't go, he still brought his ass back.

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Would y'all? Would y'all say he is the who's the

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 4>heart and soul of the team? Like that him you

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 4>think you is? Yes, you think Mother's middle kids. I

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 4>think the way they look at him, they've they've like

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 4>you may you may disagree with the points like they

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 4>they look at him for guidance a lot, especially like

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 4>he's the only one that could talk to Butcher on

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 4>a like on a on a real level where Butcher

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 4>got to be honest. But a lot of everybody but

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Mother's milk for the most part, Mother Smoke got a

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 4>relationship with Starlight, with Hue, with with Frinds Shee and

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 4>like he's the one that kind of it seems like

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 4>he's doing that's.

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 5>Why Butcher's first, like the moral compass yeah, Butcher's Huey.

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, y'all, y'all keep going back and forth.

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 5>Took Uey took the compound B, which took him out

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 5>of there. I'm saying, I'm saying I think he's the

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 5>moral compass. I don't know necessarily as the leader, but

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 5>I think what removed Huey from that was him taking

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 5>the Compound V and showing that he does have interests

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 5>that are more influenced by him individually than the team man.

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Mother's Mill spent most of the at least half of

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the season, reminded people that he was the CEO and

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>they need to follow.

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 3>His orders or leave. Thank you. They didn't follow him willingly.

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 4>No, And if he was the hard and soul, he

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 4>would have tried to help Butcher instead of just being like, okay,

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 4>you lied. He was trying to help Butcher. He killed,

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 4>tried to help. He brought it back, and he gave

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 4>up on him. He's like, y'all, just get the funk out.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 4>You lie too much. By yep, that's tough love, you know,

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 4>That's not That's not hard and soul at all.

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 3>And he only brought him back when he had that

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 3>panic attack and passed out. Exactly, that's what you like

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 3>that job?

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Hey, he hit the he was he gave us a

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 4>biding before. Bidy was the worst character in the in

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 4>the Boys. I don't like him at all.

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, he didn't have a big role this year.

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 4>He's corny. It's just like like Ken said, his only

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 4>role is to show I like hip hop. It's like, bro,

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 4>come on, really, that's what y'all doing. This motherfucker got

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 4>a different rapture every single episode. It's so corny. If

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 4>this was out in the fucking eighties, I would understand

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 4>because he's like he's like fucking Junkyard dog or fucking

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 4>what's the G I Joe guy that used to talking

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 4>no no, no no in G I Joe?

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't I think so?

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 4>I think so he's like him. It's like, bro, we're

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 4>past this, Like, you don't have to be the on

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 4>the rap guy. I wear wrap shirts every episode looking

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:24.439
<v Speaker 4>I like rap. Shut up here, it's stupid. I'm trying

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 4>to shoot man, but I can't. His biggest his biggest

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.439
<v Speaker 4>art was get his wife to forget a white man.

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't.

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.959
<v Speaker 1>He ain't really he didn't really do ship. I kind

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>of started to feel that way about Butcher. He spent

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>this whole damn season talking to ghosts. You know, did

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>y'all see that coming? Like that Kessler was fake LUSA LUSA.

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 2>During our week to week Lou brought it up.

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I definitely, because no one was acknowledging him, Like,

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 5>no one else was talking to the dude, and he

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 5>would only pop up in certain times when, like Butcher.

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 2>It was one scene where the dude kind of looked

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:11.479
<v Speaker 2>at him, like when.

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 5>He cut the dow leg off and Butcher was, yeah,

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 5>when and Butcher was talking to dude and uh, the

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 5>imaginary dude and the other guy was looking at him like, man,

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 5>who the fuck are you talking to?

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Hm?

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 2>So that's when I put you into that. I think

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that was episode three.

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 4>That was the episode that he had revealed niggas it

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 4>was episode.

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Before that before but he was like because it was like,

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't also.

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 4>Ahead of the fact I wouldn't, Flowers bro No, I

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 4>was no, because he give him this because he did

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 4>call it earlier. That wasn't the one he mentioned. He

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 4>mentioned another scene where and I think it was like

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 4>he was like the first time they met. It was

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 4>in that little uh uh like lunch, like like a

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.399
<v Speaker 4>little in the crifeteria, but it was only them too,

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 4>and the lou was like, keep looking at how like

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 4>how many times you see them just by themselves? And

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 4>then like you think about it when before he went

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 4>to go link up a Ryan, he was gonna give them.

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Cookies to to.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 4>That was a little.

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Coffee ship cos me crazy.

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 4>You know what. I never picked up on it because

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 4>that's a super lazy trope and I don't expect the

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 4>boys to go lazy. I didn't think that either. Yeah,

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 4>I was.

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of.

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 4>I was interested before a half second and I was like, damn,

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 4>I wish he was actually real instead of him being

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 4>another fakement like he's the soda angel uh to Butcher's.

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Ex wife, who's his dead ex wife?

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Like it's kind of and then when you feel like

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 4>you heard his real backstory, he's like, Nigga, I died

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 4>a long time ago.

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 2>You left me.

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I was like, why are you thinking about him like that?

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 4>I didn't love this, And plus I didn't as much

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 4>as I like Jeffrey Dean Morgan, I didn't like the

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 4>fact that they just had him playing Meagan. They had

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:08.720
<v Speaker 4>him playing Meagan in the show and then they fucking

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 4>fight clubbed us, and it's like, dude, y'all are so

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 4>far what you've shown is better writing than this, and

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 4>this was really cheap.

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I didn't see it. I didn't.

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was real too until he cussed out

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the other ghosts, So I didn't see this coming either.

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I don't know. Butcher's wrong. Was he spent

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 3>a lot of this season.

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Moping and whining and trying to decide he was going

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>to be good or not.

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 4>He had he had, he was, He's dying, like, think

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 4>about everything that's happened to him. I think since his

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 4>wife disappeared till now, like he went through a lot

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 4>of ship. He thought she was dead. Then he found

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 4>out not only is she alive, but she got the

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.240
<v Speaker 4>love child or however however they she got that child

0:37:55.280 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 4>with homemade child child with homelanders. And then and then

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 4>he as soon as he found her, he basically lost her.

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:06.800
<v Speaker 4>And then her last which was like, all right, raised

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 4>this kid that you know was out of out of rape,

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 4>and it's just like and then on top of that,

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 4>you got to kill all the soups and then now

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 4>the kid is is the first original born Soup.

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what we.

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 4>Found out, Like I guess so that that affects him too.

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 4>So it's like he's been battling through a lot and

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 4>then like so like he's thinking about what is my

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.439
<v Speaker 4>last wishes gonna be? Like what is my last memory

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 4>going to be? Like what is my last deed it's

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 4>gonna be? Is it gonna be for the good guys

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 4>or the bad guys? And he's trying to stay good.

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 4>But Butcher's Butcher, you know, like he wants to fuck

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 4>shit up, like that was his original player. I agree.

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.799
<v Speaker 4>I think Butcher's had a really interesting arc and the

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 4>fact that he's now he's now become one of the

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 4>people he hated all because he got wrapped up in Revenge.

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 4>I think his arc has been really, really dope, and

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm really interested to see what they do with him

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 4>for the next season. I mean, he's been set out

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 4>this whole time. I just want to kill Soup. I

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 4>want you to kill them. And it got so bad

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 4>that I'm gonna take Compound V to become one of

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 4>them because I want to kill them. And look at

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 4>him now, he's like he murdered what was her name name?

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Victoria.

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Victoria. He killed her and it didn't even need to

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 4>really happen like that. He just didn't because he's butchered.

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Did he kills the daughter too, No?

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.879
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, she she went to the Yeah, she went

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 4>to the orphanage that her mama grew up in. Now,

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 4>he just he just threw it.

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 2>He threw against the walls.

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 3>He should have killed her too.

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 4>I think Butcher has a limit, even even evil violent

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 4>Butcher has a limit. I don't know, I don't know.

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 4>That's how I read it. He's not gonna just kill

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 4>a kid like that.

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Was I the only one.

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Trying to figure out why Ryan was talking like Michael

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Jackson the old season.

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Bro it was so bad.

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 4>Ryan was probably the most one of the most interesting,

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 4>underrated interesting characters to me because I never knew what

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 4>side he was going on, and we still.

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 5>Know, I guess we know maybe now I mean him

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 5>versus Homelander. But throughout the season, what you don't see.

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 4>How what him versus Homelander, Like for as much as

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 4>home one of them already like, he still go back

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 4>to his daddy.

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 5>I think that he's eventually going to just go against

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 5>the ideal because Homelander want to be in charge of everything,

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 5>and I don't think that he's like gonna ride with that.

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think you have a super boy versus superman

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 2>type thing.

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they're setting it up. I don't

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 3>know how they're gonna set it up.

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 1>It because I'm with you, I think they they're doing

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>a good job of kind of seesawing back and forth,

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>because you know, he accidentally killed the stunt man and

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>he felt bad about it, and then Homelander was like,

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>get over that ship, and since you don't give me

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>my fucking milkshake, and then he went to.

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Talk to the Butcher, who had to.

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Change of heart because he was gonna kill him or whatever,

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 1>and then he kind of flip flopped. But then Homelander

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of started to Homelander said, I don't want to

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>force you to do anything, so I'm gonna kind of wait. No,

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>he said, he didn't want to manipulate him like he

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>was manipulated, But he ended up manipulating because when that

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>little pervert he made him slept that perverb. But then

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 1>when he got with Mallory and Butcher towards the end,

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>he felt like they were trying to use him, and

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>he killed Mallory and he's mad at Butcher.

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 4>Now. I don't know why Mallory didn't read the room

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 4>like this nigga is gonna kill you if you don't

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 4>get I didn't think he was gonna kill her. I

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 4>thought that scene was really really well done. Maybe I'm

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 4>just dumb, but I was watching it like I thought

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 4>he was gonna back down because he thought of her

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 4>like a grandmother, you know. So I thought he was

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 4>gonna back down when he shoved her ass and she

0:41:58.000 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 4>flew across the earth.

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 2>You did.

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 4>She's not dead now because like because like because the

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 4>kn's point, he's been manipulated or people have been trying

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 4>to manipulate him all his life and he doesn't really

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 4>have any autonomy. The only one who kind of gave

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 4>that to him was his mama. And you put the

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 4>nigga in a and he he realized, He's like, hold on,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 4>this is a lid based room. This is this room,

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 4>got stuff five kind of creast deep. I don't want

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 4>to keep me here. Hell now, that they should just

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 4>talk to him, right, It was stupid, yeah, because he

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 4>would have listened if they just had the conversation. He

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 4>was mad that y'all stuck me in a room and

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 4>y'all were going to turn trick that to my will, Yeah,

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 4>like trick me and then and then they and then

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 4>she just dumped all that trauma onto him all that

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 4>once like oh yeah, no, your mama was raped, you

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 4>were a child rape like yep, everything like it was

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 4>just like damn, Like he's still That's what I'm saying,

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Like I don't understand for two things, Like one, he's

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 4>still I think under fourteen. Yeah, so like how do

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 4>you how as a fourteen year old in any circumstance

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.399
<v Speaker 4>because they got powers and not can deal with that.

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 4>And two he do got powers, So like how do

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.720
<v Speaker 4>you think a teenager or a preteen is gonna react

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 4>to all that shit?

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 3>Yep?

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, your guys are not that smart, Like they

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 4>fuck up constantly.

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm yeah. What about Starlight and Firecracker?

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>So I remember when you guys would talk about it

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>throughout in between shoots or whatever. And I remember, Mike,

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you were saying, like they're the Repubb, the Alright or

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 1>the Right were upset when they found out the show

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 1>was making fun of them. I hadn't made it to

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:50.240
<v Speaker 1>the part where it was very clear as day until

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Firecrackers showed up on CE.

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.800
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, like it was like they did not hide

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 3>this ship at all. Like I don't even think they

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 3>used the alt right word this, you know, during it.

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, damn, but what did you guys

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.240
<v Speaker 3>think about? I guess their sort of beef because Butcher

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 3>tried to he tried to blackmail her, and she was like,

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:16.959
<v Speaker 3>I would give a damn push that shit.

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And she sent the tweet and she went on stage,

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 1>admitted to it, redeemed for the confessed her sins, and

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>used God to get away from it, and then told

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>all on fucking Starlight and said Starlight had a baby

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>or had an abortion and just really just flipped the

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>whole thing on the Starlight. It got so mad she

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>would have whooped the ass. But what did you guys

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>think about, like their underlying kind of.

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Thing that they were going on, or the stories they

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 3>were telling between them two.

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 4>I liked it. I well, sorry, no, I did not

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 4>like it. I did not like their relationship. I liked Firecracker,

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 4>that was her name, right, I liked her her uh,

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 4>I like her being on the show. I did not

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 4>give two fucks about her thing with Starlight. I just

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 4>didn't care, and they didn't give enough, in my opinion,

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 4>to make me give a shit. But I did like

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 4>her being there because she represented something that I thought

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 4>was a little bit missing from the show. I like

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 4>how she became that new kind of female figure uh

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 4>in Homelander's life, but the whole like, oh, you were

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 4>mean to me when we did pageants. I didn't give

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 4>a fuck any of that. I was like, that's it,

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 4>that's really why she's mad. Really, that's stupid. I did

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.799
<v Speaker 4>like the fact that they try to they try to

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 4>show humanity on both sides with firecrackers star like to me,

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 4>because I mean, to Mike's pointed, it was a little corny,

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 4>but it did show that, like I think you talk

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 4>about this a lot on is the mic on like

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 4>poor white trash people, poor white trash people have feelings too,

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 4>and they those and those feelings can come out in

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 4>different ways, you know, And for her you could see that.

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 4>Granted while it still was like some stuff you probably

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 4>should have dealt with in therapy, but like she still

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 4>was hurt about like the stuff that Starlight and probably others,

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 4>and like even you look at the seven they kind

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 4>of treated her like that way too, like she was

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 4>just a stupid.

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Another party when she tried to walk up and be

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>part of the end crowd and Sister Sat was like, yeah,

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>this ain't for you need to be.

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 4>Exactly and so it's like you can see like there

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 4>was there was a sense of humanity with it.

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Even Starlight kind of felt the way too.

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 4>She was like, look, I know I was a piece

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 4>of shit, not bad, but I did like how they

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 4>did Starlight Starlight with somebody who didn't was going through

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 4>an identity crisis. She didn't really know who she was

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.759
<v Speaker 4>outside of the costume because literally all her life she

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 4>wanted to be a superhero.

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Now she's not now.

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 4>Granted, like how they did it with the abortion stuff,

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 4>that was one way of doing it. But I did

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:56.799
<v Speaker 4>like how she had to face herself and like face

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 4>who she really is.

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I thought that was though it.

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Is fire Cracker double double on time.

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:11.239
<v Speaker 4>She doesn't shoot fire does she would have to be

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 4>in there too? Oh yeah, right her powers. Really she's

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 4>a redhead, so that could be because you know they

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:19.399
<v Speaker 4>call red heads fire cross that that's what I thought

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 4>they got it from, right.

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember what he.

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 4>Was, I don't remember she strong?

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Is she strong?

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.240
<v Speaker 3>They turned Ashley into the damn mascot.

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Asked about to be Mega mind this season five?

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Would she worked with or was she worked with the boys.

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 4>She's I think she getting up working with the boys

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:45.879
<v Speaker 4>because wants to kill her.

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 2>They did, but you know she kissed, they asked, though

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 2>she said no, I can do this now.

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but she right, Mike, you said you liked what

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:53.759
<v Speaker 3>they did with her.

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 4>I do. I like how they how they have broken

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 4>her down over the seasons.

0:47:58.880 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm in Joe. I mean, she she's a fucking she's

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 4>a piece of ship's like getting it. And because I

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 4>love that scene, even though I hate the Deep, but

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 4>that scene where the Deep went off on her, I

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 4>was like, yeah, there you go, there you go like

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 4>like like that, I could kill you. Even even the

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 4>dude that she was doing the the anal b stuff with,

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 4>he was like, look, I was only interested because she was.

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 4>He was that top sea.

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 3>He paid for that and he became the league they killed.

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 2>They killed the hell out of him.

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah.

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the last person I have is uh Is Homelander,

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.760
<v Speaker 1>who I think I think Anthony Star is still killing.

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 4>He's the only con Like, I don't know how he

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 4>hasn't been nominated for the Award for this for this

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 4>series especial how popular it is. But he's the constant

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 4>like I don't know what the funk he about to dude,

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 4>And I'm on the edge of my seat every time

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 4>you're on the street. Because even when he was, they

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 4>was trying to find the league and Sage was and

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 4>then they were in his office and he just laser

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 4>being the girl. When she said like, oh yeah, I

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 4>did do this, Sage was like like she was about

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 4>to say something else, was like she's the lead. I

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 4>didn't expect him to kill like I was expecting him

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 4>at least, like I'm still thinking he's following Sage's, you know, lead,

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 4>So like he's just so uncontrollable that everybody's like damn,

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Like no matter how calm and collected he is, he

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 4>could go off and you can't do shit about it.

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 4>I like that about him a lot. I like how

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 4>they're I mean, I think this this is why you know,

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 4>all right and rednecks and that sort of just getting

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 4>pissed off because they're seeing what we see, Like he's

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 4>he isn't controllable, just like the police force. And I

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 4>like that scene when she was like, well I did

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 4>do bop and he killed her and he's like, I

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 4>don't need to hear anything more. Like they show up,

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:02.320
<v Speaker 4>they see a bunch of black dudes on the corner.

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, they weren't doing anything. Well, I mean, are

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:07.879
<v Speaker 4>you sure when they're black?

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 4>Black right? They're on the corner right, you know. So

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.360
<v Speaker 4>I actually really liked that scene. I think it was

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 4>an underrated scene.

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Agree.

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 5>I think Homeland is one of those characters that will

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.320
<v Speaker 5>go down all time history because how the guy's playing

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 5>it's it's so as Nick said, unpredictable.

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 2>And you get these this face acting that he's doing.

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:31.399
<v Speaker 2>You're like, damn, is he fim too?

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Is it No?

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 2>And then they'll just raised attention.

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 5>Then it will die all way down and then out

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 5>of nowhere he'll kill somebody.

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 2>So I think that he is absolutely body in this row.

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he has a superiority complex, you know, and he

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 1>is the most powerful person that we've seen. And I

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>guess his son is writing next to him and the

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>boys like nobody can touch it. So and he feels

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like he's better than everybody else on top of that.

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he is he is when I do like

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 1>him a lot, especially when he comes on because I'm

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>with you guys, like I just like this facial expressions

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:11.879
<v Speaker 1>when somebody says something stupid or he doesn't like it.

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 5>Bro he cracker was coughing, Yeah, look of disgust.

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 4>That was so good, So keep doing it. And she

0:51:25.360 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 4>was so offended because she really thought, like, oh, he

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 4>bucks with me.

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, breast milk was save.

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Breast milk wasn't going save. Oh that was it was.

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 4>So I haven't seen him in anything else because I

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 4>keep mean to look him up to see if this

0:51:42.840 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 4>really like that because he has that that that white

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 4>guy trunk. I don't know if he just looks like

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 4>that all the time or if they did something to

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 4>make him look like this.

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:57.440
<v Speaker 3>I just I haven't watched it. I just added it

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 3>on Max.

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:02.360
<v Speaker 2>He wanted to show Threa. Know his hair is cut different,

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 2>like he got a buzz cut in that show.

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 4>But does his face look the same.

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he do the same facial stuff that's not as well,

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 5>not as well. He's worked on it, you can tell.

0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 5>But Vancie Season one is really good.

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:18.439
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm Okay, I fun with him, man. I think

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 4>I think the next season is really gonna be Butcher

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 4>versus versus him. That's what That's what I think they're

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 4>leading up to. But but they also bring him back.

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean they ended the Yeah, maybe I can see

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 4>Social Boy. Maybe, I don't know.

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 3>It's boy as powerful as is supposed he's version he's.

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 4>Especially with the energy blast that he could give off.

0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:47.320
<v Speaker 4>I think that's the only way you could kill Homelander

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:50.799
<v Speaker 4>mm hmm. But as far as Toe to Toe, they

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 4>probably even they're gonna need him, and they're gonna need

0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 4>I think Mave's gonna come back because they're gonna they're

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 4>gonna need her. I think the whole last season is

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 4>really gonna be like this is the war.

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 5>I think it's gonna be Ryan. I think it's gonna

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 5>be him versus Ryan. Yeah, because Ryan, yet he's supposed

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 5>to be as powerful as Homelander. Though, if I'm not

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 5>going to be happy, I think that's what they're going to.

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:21.880
<v Speaker 1>It'll probably have to be Ryan and Soldier Boy or

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Ryan becomes.

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 3>The new Homelander. We really, I really don't know, you

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 3>got to mm hmmm mm hmmm.

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:31.520
<v Speaker 4>I think that would be a really interesting ending because

0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:33.479
<v Speaker 4>he seems like he's set up to be the next

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 4>Homelander because they don't fucking they don't listen to him,

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.719
<v Speaker 4>they keep over talking to him, they treat him like ship.

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 4>It would make sense if he became the new Homelander.

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Speaker 1>And I guess to a certain degree we've seen it

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>this this season more than any other season.

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 3>But if we.

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Compare like his his what happened to him this season

0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 1>compared to what happened to Homelander, and can hold him

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:05.920
<v Speaker 1>up to one another, they're sort of similar. Even though

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Homelander was tortured, but he was tortured by people that

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:14.279
<v Speaker 1>were in roles that could have easily said no and

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>walked away, but they didn't. They abandoned him and continue

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:18.839
<v Speaker 1>to do it because they had a job.

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 3>He made. He made a point like, yeah, they were scared.

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Of him and they but they could have said.

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:27.359
<v Speaker 3>No and they never did.

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.360
<v Speaker 4>And that's another thing about that again, talking about the

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 4>humanity and these characters, like when you hear about the

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 4>stuff that Homelander went through as a kid, like you

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:44.439
<v Speaker 4>be like bry surprised the right, like that ship is insane.

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, being in the oven and he was like yeah.

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:52.840
<v Speaker 3>He was like, it's still hurt. It hurt. Yeah, he

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 3>said it hurt a lot. And then when he's.

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 5>Man, I don't know, man, but I like what dude

0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.319
<v Speaker 5>told him to, Like, you could have lifted any time.

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 2>The guy told him like, bro.

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:07.359
<v Speaker 5>You it was terrible what you would endure, but at

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:09.359
<v Speaker 5>any point in time you wanted to, you could have left.

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 2>You're that powerful.

0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 3>But he's still a kid. It's right, like, at what point.

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Was he gonna leave? When he was five, when he

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 2>was ten? Where are you going? Hue?

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 4>They talked about his birth like he laser beamed out.

0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Of his mama.

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm.

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.359
<v Speaker 1>So yes, I don't know, but yeah, I did enjoy

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that episode.

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we got to see uh staying stan Egger again.

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like that episode with the fucking damn compound

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 1>sheep and animals or whatever.

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Crazy. Yeah, that was.

0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 4>Hilarious. Vampire sheep was fired. Man, that was funny. As

0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:56.279
<v Speaker 4>helling me. I loved it.

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, uh huh.

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:01.399
<v Speaker 4>Only the Boys. I can pull something off like that.

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:03.759
<v Speaker 4>I think another show and I'm like, all right, this

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:05.879
<v Speaker 4>is goofy. But the boys they make it to where

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.240
<v Speaker 4>you're like, oh, ship, they got vampire flying sheep.

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 3>This is crazy fit.

0:56:10.760 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't know, it was it was. It

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>was definitely over the top. They had a lot of

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 1>over the top stuff the ship with web Weaver. I

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:20.360
<v Speaker 1>think they went a little that it was funny.

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:21.320
<v Speaker 2>He kept shipping.

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 4>I didn't care about that. It's funny though, because it

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 4>was like, bro, if you are in a room with

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:29.359
<v Speaker 4>Homelander and that is your power.

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, y'all, y'all like this and Dale

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Joe though.

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:46.359
<v Speaker 6>Work, Oh that was fun episode so okay, but yeah,

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:49.319
<v Speaker 6>episode eight man just basically sets up anybody know how

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 6>many seasons.

0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:53.440
<v Speaker 4>They're going one more, next one, next season, last season?

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, so like they're doing twenty six. Yeah, that's

0:56:57.960 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 2>when he said they're gonna come back because they're doing

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 2>this year halfway over us is.

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:06.359
<v Speaker 4>This, Well, they're going to do another gen or whatever

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 4>it was called gen V. But the dude, the Black

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:14.479
<v Speaker 4>Dude died of yeah, tragically, but they're doing another season

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 4>gen V and then I think they're doing a spin

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 4>off of like the early foundings of Yeah, but they

0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 4>ended the season really well, like this is how you

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:29.320
<v Speaker 4>end the season well, because I was legit like, oh ship,

0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 4>the Conico ship. I was like, wow, flying off, I

0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 4>was like, this is fucking a perfect ending, and.

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I love to think answer questions and still had cliffhangers.

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, like for Newman like in the beginning the

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:47.480
<v Speaker 4>three things like you're to your point, Like in the

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 4>beginning season you want them to kill Newman, and then

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:50.960
<v Speaker 4>by the time they do it at the end of

0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 4>the season, he's like, oh, I didn't want that, don't

0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:56.360
<v Speaker 4>want Yeah, right, that's crazy.

0:57:57.800 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, homelanders basically in control.

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 1>He's running everything because the President's get up there giving

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the speech.

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 3>He was like, all right, that's enough, yep.

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 1>And then he gets up there and started talking for everybody,

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, after he outed Newman, which Newman.

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Had to run and then she ended up dying any

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 3>damn way.

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:18.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, man, like everybody's captured, which I was surprised

0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:21.000
<v Speaker 1>they captured them and didn't kill them.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was weird. But I don't know why

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<v Speaker 3>they just wouldn't kill them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's been kind of a thing this whole show, is

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<v Speaker 4>like why didn't they just fucking kill him and get

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<v Speaker 4>it over with? But it did make sense. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember what the reasoning was, but when I was

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<v Speaker 4>watching it, I was like, oh, okay, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>remember what it was. Now with Newman, it was like

0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:45.280
<v Speaker 4>they could release her identity and her being the superpower.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I feel like she didn't kill.

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<v Speaker 4>Them, right, But there's a reason why, like Homelander in

0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 4>them didn't kill them. But I don't remember what it

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 4>was that I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Sage said something about it. I think she

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned like, you got to kind of keep them alive

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason. Yeah, I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck, but yeah, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Season A was a good close to set up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I know it's the fifth and final season

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<v Speaker 1>that that makes it even better because yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were gonna ride off into the sunset and get

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<v Speaker 1>away and reconvene later and come back and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to beat them.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah Man, that shit did not happen at all, So they.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually kind of they're kind of worse off than they

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<v Speaker 2>were less.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they're prisoners, and who's gonna get them out

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<v Speaker 1>Butcher exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the thing. Butcher's gonna have to do it because

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be Butcher and Starlighter, Starlight whatever. They don't

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:48.960
<v Speaker 4>like each other. Yeah, well she had no choice because

0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 4>that little that fucking fake ass eleven was gonna kill her.

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<v Speaker 4>And he was told her to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Now hold on, bro, like you got powers, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have Powell. You're gonna leave me here with like you

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what they're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 4>That other girl was gonna suck her up. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 4>was nothing up like I'm about to I'm about to

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<v Speaker 4>fucking fuck you up. And Hugh was like, nah, you

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<v Speaker 4>need to go because she's about to kill your ass.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I was here, I'd be upset and start like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, nigga, this is when your parents come back.

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<v Speaker 4>You go scandato, now what.

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<v Speaker 3>I need you?

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<v Speaker 4>I I like the ending. I was like, wow, I

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<v Speaker 4>really can't wait for another season. I didn't feel like

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<v Speaker 4>that was season three. I was like, Okay, it's cool

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<v Speaker 4>this season. I was like, oh I need season season

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<v Speaker 4>five now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Well any other thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's it me okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh wells Spike, that's crazy six.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we'll leave it there, man, let us know your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and we'll cat you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>It signed we off Peace Peace mhm