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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to another review.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna doing a season recap of The Boys season four,

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Speaker 1: season four, the whole season, so Spike and Nick they

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Speaker 1: review individual episodes on Patreon, So become on patroon patreon

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Speaker 1: dot com slash uh FBS podcast. But you guys went

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Speaker 1: all the way up to what what episode seven?

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Speaker 2: I think we didn't do seven to eight?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, all right, Well, yeah, The Boys Season

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Speaker 1: four takes place six months after everything that went down

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Speaker 1: in the previous season.

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Speaker 3: They you know, are working.

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Speaker 1: With uh, the Boys worked with the CIA to assassinate

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Speaker 1: Victoria Newman in an effort to stop make it over

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Speaker 1: the government. Uh. She is moving closer to the Oval office,

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Speaker 1: you know, under Homelander, who is trying to consolidate his powers.

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Speaker 1: And Butcher only has a couple of months to live,

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Speaker 1: so and he got kicked out because they tired of

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Speaker 1: his line and uh, and they're trying to save the world.

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Speaker 1: So that's pretty much where we kind of start with

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Speaker 1: this one. What do you guys think about the overall season?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna try to breeze through these because I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, it shouldn't really take that long to discuss

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Speaker 1: in totality.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, what do you guys think of the oh,

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Speaker 3: the whole season ship?

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Speaker 4: I'll go then, I guess I really enjoyed it. I

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Speaker 4: didn't like last season, and I I kind of just

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Speaker 4: gave up. I was like, I'm done with the boys. Actually,

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Speaker 4: was it last season or season two?

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Speaker 3: I think it was season two.

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Speaker 4: I think you're right. I think it was season two.

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Speaker 4: I didn't like, and then something told me to go

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Speaker 4: ahead and watch season three. I don't remember much about

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Speaker 4: season three, but I remember thinking it was okay, that

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Speaker 4: was that was.

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Speaker 2: With social Boy. That's when we got to introduce to him.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I feel like I needed to

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Speaker 4: go back and rewatch the whole thing because I don't

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Speaker 4: really remember, but I must not have hated it. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think you I think I remember you talking about

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Speaker 4: season three kind of brought you back a little bit

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Speaker 4: more because season two went in a real interesting direction,

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Speaker 4: and then season three kind of brought things back.

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Speaker 2: They got season better.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, season two was with the Nazi chick, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that was storm Front.

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Speaker 4: Storm Front. I remember that. No, this season I really liked,

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Speaker 4: I really really like it all but one episode I really.

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Speaker 3: Liked what episode was that, the.

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Speaker 4: One with you where he was dressed up as the

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Speaker 4: other dude and they were in the basement an hour

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Speaker 4: This is a set episode wild. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I liked this season. It maintained the one in season three,

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Speaker 5: which I think with the better two seasons. I didn't

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Speaker 5: like season two that much either. They kind of meandering

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Speaker 5: around on a couple of things that I wish they

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Speaker 5: had just got to the end of before the season finale.

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Speaker 5: But all in all, I didn't have any bad takeaways.

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Speaker 5: Like I liked it with this show. As me and

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Speaker 5: Nick were discussion throughout it, like you get what you

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Speaker 5: sign up for, Like they're gonna do the voice.

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Speaker 2: They don't try to do anything different, and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I think for me, it definitely started off then I

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Speaker 1: like right towards the midway market started to pick up,

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Speaker 1: you know, as it went along. But the first and

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Speaker 1: maybe it just took a minute for me to get

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Speaker 1: back into this world. But the first two episodes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 3: But overall I walked away and enjoying it for the

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Speaker 3: most part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me, I enjoyed this is the

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Speaker 2: fourth season.

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Speaker 4: I think right now one in three stand out to

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Speaker 4: me the most is like my favorites out of the four.

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Speaker 4: But it felt like they this season could have been

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Speaker 4: maybe six episodes instead of eight, like if they, like

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Speaker 4: to Mike's point, that one episode probably didn't need to

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Speaker 4: be there or could have been just like a one

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Speaker 4: I think that where we where we started, where we

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Speaker 4: Everything in between, which is was a little bit great.

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Speaker 4: I think episode four was a stand out to me.

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Speaker 4: I think when Homelander went to back to his home,

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Speaker 4: and that episode was really awesome. But I don't I

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Speaker 4: don't have any complaint about how they ended because I'm

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Speaker 3: H Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Episode one, they kind of start to establish some things

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Speaker 1: or or remind us of some things, like we find

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Speaker 1: out Butcher had Butcher has six months to live. The daughter,

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Speaker 1: Victorian Numan's daughter has powers.

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Speaker 3: All kinds of crazy.

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Speaker 1: Stuff happening in that particular fight. John Kenseler shows up

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Speaker 1: from The Walking Dead. Uh, is boy what is his name?

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Speaker 4: Is the name?

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Speaker 3: I know it, but I always forget it.

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Speaker 4: I always call him Egan. I'm trying to think of it.

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Speaker 4: Jean Dean. What's his name, Dean Morgan, Yeah, something like that,

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Speaker 4: Like his name a real old school white man named.

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey.

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Speaker 4: I think it's Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's it. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was surprised to see him here. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: they're trying to heat level up a bit now.

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Speaker 4: He Eric Kripke is basically bringing like a lot of

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Speaker 4: the cast back from.

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Speaker 2: Supernatural and different roles.

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Speaker 4: So he was a really on Supernatural before he was

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Speaker 4: on the Walking So he was there. That's why they

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Speaker 4: got the guy wh played Dean Winchester, he played Social Boy. Uh,

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Speaker 4: the guy who played is it the President? The white guy?

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Speaker 4: Bobby Singer, Yeah, singer he played on Supernatural. To like,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that you will see that

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Speaker 4: like are coming from that that he's bringing into this world,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now I'm like you, Nick, I know was

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a random can't I can't even laugh

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Speaker 3: Anatomy, Gray's anatomy. No, I didn't watch house Wise.

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Speaker 5: When the Black Man I locked in the basement, I

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Speaker 4: I still it was hot, so I can't That's that's

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Speaker 3: And yeah, wu I.

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Speaker 4: Got about it there early, like Lu said, once you

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Speaker 2: Man, and you got to like, come on, brother, do

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and then we get introduced to Sister Sage,

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Speaker 1: who is this universe is mister Terrific, who was a

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Speaker 3: Black guy in the DC universe.

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Speaker 1: I think eventually they replaced him with another white guy

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Speaker 1: And in this particular episode, uh, you know, they introduced

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Speaker 1: Hugh's mom. But pretty much the thing that kind of

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Speaker 3: So so that was it.

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Speaker 1: Any any key takeaways from episode one from y'all remember.

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Speaker 3: How much can y'all do? Y'all remember from the episode?

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Speaker 4: I remember the plot points everything, Like I know that

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Speaker 4: But I also found it interesting of like the Homelander

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Speaker 4: to now. I felt like that was interesting for them

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess because let's let's it was it

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Speaker 3: This Hughey's that arc. So what kind of see we

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Speaker 1: I think I'm kind of with you, Nick. I don't

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Speaker 1: what he did. I don't understand why they did this,

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Speaker 1: but I did. I was not a fan of this

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Speaker 3: It just felt like a waste of time for me.

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Speaker 4: Damn, I say, like, you don't. Yeah, I liked it.

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Speaker 4: go over that. I liked it. I liked it. I

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Speaker 4: don't think it. I don't think it overstated to welcome.

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Speaker 4: They did just enough in the name, you know, got

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Speaker 1: It, Spike, do you think they bailed the mom out?

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Speaker 1: It might go sound fucked up, but I gotta ask,

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Speaker 1: do you think they bailed the mom out?

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Speaker 3: Saying that she had depression?

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Speaker 3: They have left. If she was just shitty, they couldn't

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Speaker 5: You don't know anything bad it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Who took it? And nothing bad happened to him?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: I am trying to think who I got to do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kill him.

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Speaker 4: His dad was was fucking people up. That whole fucking

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Speaker 1: Oh man, let's talk about a train. Mm hmm uh

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Speaker 4: Because he's the start of this whole thing. Hue wouldn't

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Speaker 2: True? M hm.

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Speaker 3: Did y'all like this whole thing with?

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Speaker 4: Though? I like his brother cussing him out every chance

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Speaker 4: I promise you you will be fifty miles an hour

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Speaker 3: Who was the one bro at that party, Bro.

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Speaker 4: Tonight, Yeah, talked about like it was just like, bro, like,

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Speaker 2: In this industry? At that job?

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Speaker 3: Knight said, he said we would, He said we would

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Speaker 1: That ship was so fucked up, bro, How you tell

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Speaker 1: what money that ship was foul? Bro mm hmm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: But what about you, Spike, I mean, how did you

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Speaker 1: I think he battled with it too much though you

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Speaker 5: Either you're gonna do this or you're gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: I think he had to. Yeah yeah, m hmmm, because

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Speaker 4: That's what That's why I'm glad he said it too.

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Speaker 4: Reminded me, Mike, if you remember Spider Man, uh with

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Speaker 4: She was like or her when when Homelander fired her,

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Speaker 2: That was a good character. I liked her. I liked

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Speaker 5: I liked the whole I know Nick said that her

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: But overall I did like her. I was really trying

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Speaker 3: So I and is that did I only pick that

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Speaker 4: a black woman, right, even if she had all the

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00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 4: answers and all that stuff, No matter what, they're not

444
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 4: going to listen to me. And it felt like when

445
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 4: homeland Er went to go recruit her originally that gave

446
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 4: her a purpose of like I could do something that

447
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 4: you'll finally be You'll finally have to value me somehow,

448
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 4: some way. Yep, because I'm because if I'm doing this

449
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 4: and I'm orchestrating all this, then I'll give my validation

450
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 4: that I that I've secretly been seeking but I never got.

451
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 4: And I think we just and then throughout the season

452
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 4: we see how she copes with all that, like when

453
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 4: she does, you know, lobotomize herself, or how she does.

454
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 4: I feel like there were some honest things that she

455
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 4: was saying to the deep when they were interacting, like this.

456
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: Is just how I cope.

457
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 4: This is how I've been living, And it's hard to

458
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: be the smartest person in the world and no one

459
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 4: give you credit for I for one and too you

460
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 4: never really can utilize it to your advantage because again,

461
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 4: no one's gonna listen to you. So it was just

462
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: like I felt like she and I think there's a

463
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 4: lot of characters you can say that about this, but

464
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 4: like they all kind of went against what they originally

465
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 4: wanted to do in the system, Like Newman was a

466
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 4: part of something that she didn't want to be, and

467
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 4: then you see how that affected her in the end.

468
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 4: Butcher is now more so like the guys he's fighting

469
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 4: then hit the guys. The boys now people you talk

470
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 4: about you used to like when in the beginning of

471
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: the series, like I used to hate blood.

472
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: I used to be, you know, be scared of it.

473
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 2: Now I'm used to it. Like it's like a lot of.

474
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 4: People have changed to decide they never thought that. I

475
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 4: think that she's a reflection of all that for everybody

476
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: this season. Yeah, I thought this was just like she

477
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 4: got her first real taste of power. So that was

478
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 4: kind of why she stayed with the bad guys. I mean,

479
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 4: what was she doing before that? Did they even really

480
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: say she.

481
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 2: Was in a house full of books?

482
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 4: Like that's what I mean? So I think this was

483
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: giving her power. So I liked her character.

484
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting, but they used her up and still

485
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: fire her ass and she still ran ass right back?

486
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 4: Is that happened in real life?

487
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 3: Right?

488
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 2: But she planned for it though.

489
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: I mean, she's she's too smart to think that everything's

490
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 4: gonna go her way. She was like, I knew he

491
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: was gonna suck it up because you're gonna be you

492
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 4: and we still got here.

493
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, okay, let's come to the boys. Did

494
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: you guys like Frenchie and Comico's arc at all him

495
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: with this coling thing and killing family.

496
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 4: Not French I like Comicos. I didn't care about Frenchies

497
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: because it was like it was like, this is the

498
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: fourth season, bro, you you you.

499
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: Just that upset?

500
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: You killed all these people like we could have we

501
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 4: could have handled that back in season two anything like

502
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 4: to me, and then and then the fact that you

503
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 4: sleep with the dude that you killed.

504
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: It was like that was a weird part.

505
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 4: You know what I asked you to do that That's

506
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: that's how you make up.

507
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: For it, just gonna give you pleasure for the Risk family.

508
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It's like it was just kind

509
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: of like I didn't realize. Like to me, Camiko made

510
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: more sense because it was like we finally got to

511
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: see more of her backstory and more of why like

512
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: she feels the way she does. But French, I thought

513
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: was like, bro, you I thought you exercised again the

514
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 4: same thing like with with a train with you, we

515
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 4: were forgiving. I thought you already got that out. Like

516
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: I thought we didn't pass that. But if if this

517
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 4: is what we're doing now, And to me, it just

518
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: seemed like they didn't really have much to do with

519
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: Frenchie and Camiko this season.

520
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: With more Frenchie than Camiko. But I mean, I guess.

521
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 5: I like Comiko's I think it paid off at the

522
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 5: end when she was finally able to speak with Frenchie's.

523
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 5: I agree with Nick, it's like that that's the season

524
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 5: one story, bro, Like you've been fighting for the good

525
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: guys for the last three seasons, Like why are you

526
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 5: mad now? Like Nick said, I thought, I thought you

527
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 5: got that out, bro, So for that to still be

528
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 5: such a major plot line, which it didn't work for me.

529
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: It worked for you, Yeah, I don't know.

530
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it worked for me very well. I think it

531
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 4: explained why Frenchy has been acting the way he's been

532
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 4: acting for the last three seasons, and it also especially

533
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: explains why he didn't allow himself to go all the

534
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 4: way there with Camiko, because he was battling something. I

535
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 4: think them waiting until now to one reveal that he is,

536
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: I guess at the very least bisexual and too to

537
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 4: outline that he was a murderer and he's been holding

538
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 4: this in for three whole seasons. Like if they if

539
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: they told us this in the first season, wouldn't have

540
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 4: no impact. It would be like, okay, I barely know

541
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: you who cares. But we've looked at him, we knew

542
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: he was three seasons. Yeah, but we didn't see it,

543
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 4: and we didn't we didn't really get the whole feeling

544
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: of he's been sitting on it and it's been weighing

545
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: on him. So I liked it, and I especially liked

546
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 4: the way they tied it with Comicos because yeah, I

547
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: like her arc, but I was confused about was their

548
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 4: sexual tension? Do they like each other like that? Then

549
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, well maybe they're just friends. That's fine,

550
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 4: but it didn't make sense. So when they finally got there,

551
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, there we go. I get it. See,

552
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 4: to me, I was hoping that they would have tackled

553
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: this when I think she's Russian when his former the

554
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 4: woman he used to work with that I guess she

555
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: was the one that sent him on all those Assassin missions. Like,

556
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: well she came back. I thought they were gonna address

557
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: it then, because I always felt like French and Camico

558
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 4: had some type of chemistry or even was gonna lead

559
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: to something because they are always they always connected with

560
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: each other.

561
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 2: So I wasn't surprised by that.

562
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: I just thought that they were taking us on a

563
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: roundabout way of them getting back to where I thought

564
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: we were always gonna get by bringing up this dude,

565
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 4: bringing up his past and how this killing was, you know,

566
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: really stood out to him.

567
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: And then I did love the scene where Camiko.

568
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: Was like waiting for him at the you know, the

569
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: correctional facility and stuff to go see him, and he

570
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 4: never wanted to see anybody. Those were good scenes, but

571
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: to me, it was just like, I don't know, I

572
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: just felt like, I don't know, I just felt like

573
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: we could have addressed this at that time when the

574
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 4: Russian lady first came back, when it first reminded him

575
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 4: about all the stuff he used to do.

576
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: You know, I thought we were going to deal with that.

577
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: Then what season was that?

578
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: I want to say there was probably season two.

579
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: Exactly, bro Like, if they did this in season two,

580
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: it wouldn't have had an impact.

581
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: Like, I don't think it had an impact though.

582
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I think y'all might be on

583
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: an island. I like, I liked, I like what they

584
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 4: did with Frenchie. At least I hope y'all are on

585
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: an island, because.

586
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

587
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: I haven't seen what people are saying, but it almost

588
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: seemed like they wanted to use that story to get

589
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: him to Comico at the end, and the only way

590
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: he could probably be with her is if he resolved

591
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: the issues that he had with his past and make

592
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: amends for that when he actually revealed him revealed that he.

593
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: Killed because how could because how could she forgive herself

594
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 4: if he couldn't forgive himself, you know what I'm saying, Like,

595
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 4: I get why it makes sense for both of them

596
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 4: and tied together. Just me with I'm just more so

597
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: focused on French. I'm like, bro, we could have I

598
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 4: would I would have wanted to see that earlier than now,

599
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: because I feel like we only we only got one

600
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: season less, so it's like we only got so much

601
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: storyline to really address, Like I thought we were kind

602
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 4: of get to the nitty gritty, like before it all concludes. Well,

603
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 4: I think we've gotten everybody's arc at this point. The

604
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: only person that I feel like has a kind of

605
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: a whack arc is Mother's Milk, and I don't even

606
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: care about him at this point. But I think we've

607
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: gotten Frenchie's arc, now, we've gotten Hughey's arc, We've gotten

608
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: Butcher's arc, and I think that they played it well.

609
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: They they they broke down these arcs over the course

610
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: of four seasons. If they rush everything, then what would

611
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: they even be doing now, Like Frenchie and Kamiko would

612
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: already be together. Whooped the fucking dude. You know. It's like,

613
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: let's let's I think that they did a really good

614
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: job of playing this out fairly slowly and I go ahead.

615
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: Ken No no you finished?

616
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm done. I'm just rambling that.

617
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed like Mother's mill roll this whole season

618
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: was just to wear hip hop shirts.

619
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: So fucking boring, y'all being too hard on brothers.

620
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: And trying to throw his family in that to make

621
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: it more interesting.

622
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: But did anybody care?

623
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: No, because he didn't go, he still brought his ass back.

624
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 4: Would y'all? Would y'all say he is the who's the

625
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: heart and soul of the team? Like that him you

626
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: think you is? Yes, you think Mother's middle kids. I

627
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: think the way they look at him, they've they've like

628
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: you may you may disagree with the points like they

629
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: they look at him for guidance a lot, especially like

630
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: he's the only one that could talk to Butcher on

631
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: a like on a on a real level where Butcher

632
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: got to be honest. But a lot of everybody but

633
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: Mother's milk for the most part, Mother Smoke got a

634
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: relationship with Starlight, with Hue, with with Frinds Shee and

635
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: like he's the one that kind of it seems like

636
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: he's doing that's.

637
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 5: Why Butcher's first, like the moral compass yeah, Butcher's Huey.

638
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all, y'all keep going back and forth.

639
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 5: Took Uey took the compound B, which took him out

640
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: of there. I'm saying, I'm saying I think he's the

641
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 5: moral compass. I don't know necessarily as the leader, but

642
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 5: I think what removed Huey from that was him taking

643
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 5: the Compound V and showing that he does have interests

644
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 5: that are more influenced by him individually than the team man.

645
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Mother's Mill spent most of the at least half of

646
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: the season, reminded people that he was the CEO and

647
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: they need to follow.

648
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: His orders or leave. Thank you. They didn't follow him willingly.

649
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: No, And if he was the hard and soul, he

650
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: would have tried to help Butcher instead of just being like, okay,

651
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 4: you lied. He was trying to help Butcher. He killed,

652
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: tried to help. He brought it back, and he gave

653
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: up on him. He's like, y'all, just get the funk out.

654
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: You lie too much. By yep, that's tough love, you know,

655
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: That's not That's not hard and soul at all.

656
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: And he only brought him back when he had that

657
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: panic attack and passed out. Exactly, that's what you like

658
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: that job?

659
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: Hey, he hit the he was he gave us a

660
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: biding before. Bidy was the worst character in the in

661
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: the Boys. I don't like him at all.

662
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he didn't have a big role this year.

663
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 4: He's corny. It's just like like Ken said, his only

664
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: role is to show I like hip hop. It's like, bro,

665
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: come on, really, that's what y'all doing. This motherfucker got

666
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: a different rapture every single episode. It's so corny. If

667
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: this was out in the fucking eighties, I would understand

668
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: because he's like he's like fucking Junkyard dog or fucking

669
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: what's the G I Joe guy that used to talking

670
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: no no, no no in G I Joe?

671
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 3: Wasn't I think so?

672
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: I think so he's like him. It's like, bro, we're

673
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: past this, Like, you don't have to be the on

674
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: the rap guy. I wear wrap shirts every episode looking

675
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 4: I like rap. Shut up here, it's stupid. I'm trying

676
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 4: to shoot man, but I can't. His biggest his biggest

677
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 4: art was get his wife to forget a white man.

678
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

679
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 1: He ain't really he didn't really do ship. I kind

680
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: of started to feel that way about Butcher. He spent

681
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: this whole damn season talking to ghosts. You know, did

682
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: y'all see that coming? Like that Kessler was fake LUSA LUSA.

683
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: During our week to week Lou brought it up.

684
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely, because no one was acknowledging him, Like,

685
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 5: no one else was talking to the dude, and he

686
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: would only pop up in certain times when, like Butcher.

687
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: It was one scene where the dude kind of looked

688
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 2: at him, like when.

689
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 5: He cut the dow leg off and Butcher was, yeah,

690
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 5: when and Butcher was talking to dude and uh, the

691
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 5: imaginary dude and the other guy was looking at him like, man,

692
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 5: who the fuck are you talking to?

693
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: Hm?

694
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: So that's when I put you into that. I think

695
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: that was episode three.

696
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 4: That was the episode that he had revealed niggas it

697
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: was episode.

698
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Before that before but he was like because it was like,

699
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't also.

700
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: Ahead of the fact I wouldn't, Flowers bro No, I

701
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 4: was no, because he give him this because he did

702
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: call it earlier. That wasn't the one he mentioned. He

703
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 4: mentioned another scene where and I think it was like

704
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: he was like the first time they met. It was

705
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: in that little uh uh like lunch, like like a

706
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 4: little in the crifeteria, but it was only them too,

707
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 4: and the lou was like, keep looking at how like

708
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: how many times you see them just by themselves? And

709
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 4: then like you think about it when before he went

710
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: to go link up a Ryan, he was gonna give them.

711
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: Cookies to to.

712
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: That was a little.

713
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: Coffee ship cos me crazy.

714
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 4: You know what. I never picked up on it because

715
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: that's a super lazy trope and I don't expect the

716
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 4: boys to go lazy. I didn't think that either. Yeah,

717
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: I was.

718
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: I was kind of.

719
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: I was interested before a half second and I was like, damn,

720
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: I wish he was actually real instead of him being

721
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: another fakement like he's the soda angel uh to Butcher's.

722
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: Ex wife, who's his dead ex wife?

723
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: Like it's kind of and then when you feel like

724
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: you heard his real backstory, he's like, Nigga, I died

725
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: a long time ago.

726
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: You left me.

727
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: I was like, why are you thinking about him like that?

728
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 4: I didn't love this, And plus I didn't as much

729
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: as I like Jeffrey Dean Morgan, I didn't like the

730
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: fact that they just had him playing Meagan. They had

731
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 4: him playing Meagan in the show and then they fucking

732
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: fight clubbed us, and it's like, dude, y'all are so

733
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: far what you've shown is better writing than this, and

734
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: this was really cheap.

735
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't see it. I didn't.

736
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: I thought he was real too until he cussed out

737
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: the other ghosts, So I didn't see this coming either.

738
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. Butcher's wrong. Was he spent

739
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: a lot of this season.

740
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: Moping and whining and trying to decide he was going

741
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: to be good or not.

742
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: He had he had, he was, He's dying, like, think

743
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: about everything that's happened to him. I think since his

744
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: wife disappeared till now, like he went through a lot

745
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: of ship. He thought she was dead. Then he found

746
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 4: out not only is she alive, but she got the

747
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 4: love child or however however they she got that child

748
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: with homemade child child with homelanders. And then and then

749
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: he as soon as he found her, he basically lost her.

750
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 4: And then her last which was like, all right, raised

751
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: this kid that you know was out of out of rape,

752
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: and it's just like and then on top of that,

753
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: you got to kill all the soups and then now

754
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: the kid is is the first original born Soup.

755
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: I think that's what we.

756
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: Found out, Like I guess so that that affects him too.

757
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: So it's like he's been battling through a lot and

758
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: then like so like he's thinking about what is my

759
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 4: last wishes gonna be? Like what is my last memory

760
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: going to be? Like what is my last deed it's

761
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: gonna be? Is it gonna be for the good guys

762
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: or the bad guys? And he's trying to stay good.

763
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 4: But Butcher's Butcher, you know, like he wants to fuck

764
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: shit up, like that was his original player. I agree.

765
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: I think Butcher's had a really interesting arc and the

766
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: fact that he's now he's now become one of the

767
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 4: people he hated all because he got wrapped up in Revenge.

768
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: I think his arc has been really, really dope, and

769
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: I'm really interested to see what they do with him

770
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: for the next season. I mean, he's been set out

771
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 4: this whole time. I just want to kill Soup. I

772
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 4: want you to kill them. And it got so bad

773
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 4: that I'm gonna take Compound V to become one of

774
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 4: them because I want to kill them. And look at

775
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: him now, he's like he murdered what was her name name?

776
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: Victoria.

777
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: Victoria. He killed her and it didn't even need to

778
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 4: really happen like that. He just didn't because he's butchered.

779
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: Did he kills the daughter too, No?

780
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 4: No, no, no, she she went to the Yeah, she went

781
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: to the orphanage that her mama grew up in. Now,

782
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 4: he just he just threw it.

783
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: He threw against the walls.

784
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: He should have killed her too.

785
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 4: I think Butcher has a limit, even even evil violent

786
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: Butcher has a limit. I don't know, I don't know.

787
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: That's how I read it. He's not gonna just kill

788
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: a kid like that.

789
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 3: Was I the only one.

790
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: Trying to figure out why Ryan was talking like Michael

791
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: Jackson the old season.

792
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: Bro it was so bad.

793
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: Ryan was probably the most one of the most interesting,

794
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: underrated interesting characters to me because I never knew what

795
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: side he was going on, and we still.

796
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 5: Know, I guess we know maybe now I mean him

797
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: versus Homelander. But throughout the season, what you don't see.

798
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: How what him versus Homelander, Like for as much as

799
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: home one of them already like, he still go back

800
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: to his daddy.

801
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 5: I think that he's eventually going to just go against

802
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 5: the ideal because Homelander want to be in charge of everything,

803
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 5: and I don't think that he's like gonna ride with that.

804
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: And I think you have a super boy versus superman

805
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: type thing.

806
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 3: I don't know how they're setting it up. I don't

807
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: know how they're gonna set it up.

808
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: It because I'm with you, I think they they're doing

809
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: a good job of kind of seesawing back and forth,

810
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: because you know, he accidentally killed the stunt man and

811
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: he felt bad about it, and then Homelander was like,

812
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: get over that ship, and since you don't give me

813
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: my fucking milkshake, and then he went to.

814
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: Talk to the Butcher, who had to.

815
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: Change of heart because he was gonna kill him or whatever,

816
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: and then he kind of flip flopped. But then Homelander

817
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: kind of started to Homelander said, I don't want to

818
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: force you to do anything, so I'm gonna kind of wait. No,

819
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: he said, he didn't want to manipulate him like he

820
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: was manipulated, But he ended up manipulating because when that

821
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: little pervert he made him slept that perverb. But then

822
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: when he got with Mallory and Butcher towards the end,

823
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: he felt like they were trying to use him, and

824
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: he killed Mallory and he's mad at Butcher.

825
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: Now. I don't know why Mallory didn't read the room

826
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: like this nigga is gonna kill you if you don't

827
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: get I didn't think he was gonna kill her. I

828
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: thought that scene was really really well done. Maybe I'm

829
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 4: just dumb, but I was watching it like I thought

830
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: he was gonna back down because he thought of her

831
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: like a grandmother, you know. So I thought he was

832
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: gonna back down when he shoved her ass and she

833
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 4: flew across the earth.

834
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: You did.

835
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: She's not dead now because like because like because the

836
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: kn's point, he's been manipulated or people have been trying

837
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: to manipulate him all his life and he doesn't really

838
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: have any autonomy. The only one who kind of gave

839
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: that to him was his mama. And you put the

840
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: nigga in a and he he realized, He's like, hold on,

841
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: this is a lid based room. This is this room,

842
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: got stuff five kind of creast deep. I don't want

843
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: to keep me here. Hell now, that they should just

844
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 4: talk to him, right, It was stupid, yeah, because he

845
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: would have listened if they just had the conversation. He

846
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: was mad that y'all stuck me in a room and

847
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 4: y'all were going to turn trick that to my will, Yeah,

848
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: like trick me and then and then they and then

849
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: she just dumped all that trauma onto him all that

850
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 4: once like oh yeah, no, your mama was raped, you

851
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 4: were a child rape like yep, everything like it was

852
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: just like damn, Like he's still That's what I'm saying,

853
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 4: Like I don't understand for two things, Like one, he's

854
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: still I think under fourteen. Yeah, so like how do

855
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 4: you how as a fourteen year old in any circumstance

856
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 4: because they got powers and not can deal with that.

857
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 4: And two he do got powers, So like how do

858
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 4: you think a teenager or a preteen is gonna react

859
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 4: to all that shit?

860
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 3: Yep?

861
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, your guys are not that smart, Like they

862
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: fuck up constantly.

863
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm yeah. What about Starlight and Firecracker?

864
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: So I remember when you guys would talk about it

865
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: throughout in between shoots or whatever. And I remember, Mike,

866
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: you were saying, like they're the Repubb, the Alright or

867
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: the Right were upset when they found out the show

868
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: was making fun of them. I hadn't made it to

869
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: the part where it was very clear as day until

870
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: Firecrackers showed up on CE.

871
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 3: And yeah, like it was like they did not hide

872
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: this ship at all. Like I don't even think they

873
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: used the alt right word this, you know, during it.

874
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: So I was like, damn, but what did you guys

875
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 3: think about? I guess their sort of beef because Butcher

876
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: tried to he tried to blackmail her, and she was like,

877
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 3: I would give a damn push that shit.

878
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: And she sent the tweet and she went on stage,

879
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: admitted to it, redeemed for the confessed her sins, and

880
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: used God to get away from it, and then told

881
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: all on fucking Starlight and said Starlight had a baby

882
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: or had an abortion and just really just flipped the

883
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: whole thing on the Starlight. It got so mad she

884
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: would have whooped the ass. But what did you guys

885
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: think about, like their underlying kind of.

886
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: Thing that they were going on, or the stories they

887
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: were telling between them two.

888
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: I liked it. I well, sorry, no, I did not

889
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: like it. I did not like their relationship. I liked Firecracker,

890
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 4: that was her name, right, I liked her her uh,

891
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: I like her being on the show. I did not

892
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: give two fucks about her thing with Starlight. I just

893
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: didn't care, and they didn't give enough, in my opinion,

894
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: to make me give a shit. But I did like

895
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 4: her being there because she represented something that I thought

896
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: was a little bit missing from the show. I like

897
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: how she became that new kind of female figure uh

898
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 4: in Homelander's life, but the whole like, oh, you were

899
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 4: mean to me when we did pageants. I didn't give

900
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: a fuck any of that. I was like, that's it,

901
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 4: that's really why she's mad. Really, that's stupid. I did

902
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: like the fact that they try to they try to

903
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: show humanity on both sides with firecrackers star like to me,

904
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 4: because I mean, to Mike's pointed, it was a little corny,

905
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 4: but it did show that, like I think you talk

906
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 4: about this a lot on is the mic on like

907
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 4: poor white trash people, poor white trash people have feelings too,

908
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: and they those and those feelings can come out in

909
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 4: different ways, you know, And for her you could see that.

910
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: Granted while it still was like some stuff you probably

911
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 4: should have dealt with in therapy, but like she still

912
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: was hurt about like the stuff that Starlight and probably others,

913
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: and like even you look at the seven they kind

914
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: of treated her like that way too, like she was

915
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: just a stupid.

916
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: Another party when she tried to walk up and be

917
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: part of the end crowd and Sister Sat was like, yeah,

918
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: this ain't for you need to be.

919
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: Exactly and so it's like you can see like there

920
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: was there was a sense of humanity with it.

921
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: Even Starlight kind of felt the way too.

922
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: She was like, look, I know I was a piece

923
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 4: of shit, not bad, but I did like how they

924
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 4: did Starlight Starlight with somebody who didn't was going through

925
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: an identity crisis. She didn't really know who she was

926
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 4: outside of the costume because literally all her life she

927
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 4: wanted to be a superhero.

928
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: Now she's not now.

929
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: Granted, like how they did it with the abortion stuff,

930
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: that was one way of doing it. But I did

931
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 4: like how she had to face herself and like face

932
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: who she really is.

933
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: Like I thought that was though it.

934
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 3: Is fire Cracker double double on time.

935
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 4: She doesn't shoot fire does she would have to be

936
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: in there too? Oh yeah, right her powers. Really she's

937
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: a redhead, so that could be because you know they

938
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 4: call red heads fire cross that that's what I thought

939
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: they got it from, right.

940
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: I don't even remember what he.

941
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: Was, I don't remember she strong?

942
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Is she strong?

943
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 3: They turned Ashley into the damn mascot.

944
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: Asked about to be Mega mind this season five?

945
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: Would she worked with or was she worked with the boys.

946
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 4: She's I think she getting up working with the boys

947
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 4: because wants to kill her.

948
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: They did, but you know she kissed, they asked, though

949
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: she said no, I can do this now.

950
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she right, Mike, you said you liked what

951
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: they did with her.

952
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: I do. I like how they how they have broken

953
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: her down over the seasons.

954
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: M hmm.

955
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 4: I'm in Joe. I mean, she she's a fucking she's

956
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: a piece of ship's like getting it. And because I

957
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 4: love that scene, even though I hate the Deep, but

958
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: that scene where the Deep went off on her, I

959
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, there you go, there you go like

960
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: like like that, I could kill you. Even even the

961
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: dude that she was doing the the anal b stuff with,

962
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: he was like, look, I was only interested because she was.

963
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: He was that top sea.

964
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: He paid for that and he became the league they killed.

965
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 2: They killed the hell out of him.

966
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

967
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: I think the last person I have is uh Is Homelander,

968
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: who I think I think Anthony Star is still killing.

969
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: He's the only con Like, I don't know how he

970
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: hasn't been nominated for the Award for this for this

971
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: series especial how popular it is. But he's the constant

972
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 4: like I don't know what the funk he about to dude,

973
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 4: And I'm on the edge of my seat every time

974
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: you're on the street. Because even when he was, they

975
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: was trying to find the league and Sage was and

976
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: then they were in his office and he just laser

977
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 4: being the girl. When she said like, oh yeah, I

978
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 4: did do this, Sage was like like she was about

979
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: to say something else, was like she's the lead. I

980
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 4: didn't expect him to kill like I was expecting him

981
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: at least, like I'm still thinking he's following Sage's, you know, lead,

982
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: So like he's just so uncontrollable that everybody's like damn,

983
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: Like no matter how calm and collected he is, he

984
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: could go off and you can't do shit about it.

985
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: I like that about him a lot. I like how

986
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: they're I mean, I think this this is why you know,

987
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: all right and rednecks and that sort of just getting

988
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: pissed off because they're seeing what we see, Like he's

989
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 4: he isn't controllable, just like the police force. And I

990
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: like that scene when she was like, well I did

991
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 4: do bop and he killed her and he's like, I

992
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: don't need to hear anything more. Like they show up,

993
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 4: they see a bunch of black dudes on the corner.

994
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 4: You know, they weren't doing anything. Well, I mean, are

995
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 4: you sure when they're black?

996
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: Right?

997
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: Black right? They're on the corner right, you know. So

998
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 4: I actually really liked that scene. I think it was

999
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 4: an underrated scene.

1000
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: Agree.

1001
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: I think Homeland is one of those characters that will

1002
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 5: go down all time history because how the guy's playing

1003
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 5: it's it's so as Nick said, unpredictable.

1004
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: And you get these this face acting that he's doing.

1005
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: You're like, damn, is he fim too?

1006
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: Is it No?

1007
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: And then they'll just raised attention.

1008
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 5: Then it will die all way down and then out

1009
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 5: of nowhere he'll kill somebody.

1010
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: So I think that he is absolutely body in this row.

1011
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a superiority complex, you know, and he

1012
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: is the most powerful person that we've seen. And I

1013
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: guess his son is writing next to him and the

1014
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: boys like nobody can touch it. So and he feels

1015
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: like he's better than everybody else on top of that.

1016
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, he is he is when I do like

1017
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: him a lot, especially when he comes on because I'm

1018
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: with you guys, like I just like this facial expressions

1019
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: when somebody says something stupid or he doesn't like it.

1020
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 5: Bro he cracker was coughing, Yeah, look of disgust.

1021
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: That was so good, So keep doing it. And she

1022
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: was so offended because she really thought, like, oh, he

1023
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 4: bucks with me.

1024
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, breast milk was save.

1025
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: Breast milk wasn't going save. Oh that was it was.

1026
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1027
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: So I haven't seen him in anything else because I

1028
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: keep mean to look him up to see if this

1029
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: really like that because he has that that that white

1030
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: guy trunk. I don't know if he just looks like

1031
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 4: that all the time or if they did something to

1032
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: make him look like this.

1033
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: I just I haven't watched it. I just added it

1034
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: on Max.

1035
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: He wanted to show Threa. Know his hair is cut different,

1036
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: like he got a buzz cut in that show.

1037
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 4: But does his face look the same.

1038
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, he do the same facial stuff that's not as well,

1039
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 5: not as well. He's worked on it, you can tell.

1040
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 5: But Vancie Season one is really good.

1041
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 4: Mm hmm Okay, I fun with him, man. I think

1042
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: I think the next season is really gonna be Butcher

1043
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 4: versus versus him. That's what That's what I think they're

1044
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 4: leading up to. But but they also bring him back.

1045
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 4: I mean they ended the Yeah, maybe I can see

1046
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: Social Boy. Maybe, I don't know.

1047
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: It's boy as powerful as is supposed he's version he's.

1048
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 4: Especially with the energy blast that he could give off.

1049
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 4: I think that's the only way you could kill Homelander

1050
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 4: mm hmm. But as far as Toe to Toe, they

1051
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 4: probably even they're gonna need him, and they're gonna need

1052
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 4: I think Mave's gonna come back because they're gonna they're

1053
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: gonna need her. I think the whole last season is

1054
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: really gonna be like this is the war.

1055
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be Ryan. I think it's gonna

1056
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 5: be him versus Ryan. Yeah, because Ryan, yet he's supposed

1057
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 5: to be as powerful as Homelander. Though, if I'm not

1058
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 5: going to be happy, I think that's what they're going to.

1059
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: It'll probably have to be Ryan and Soldier Boy or

1060
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: Ryan becomes.

1061
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: The new Homelander. We really, I really don't know, you

1062
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: got to mm hmmm mm hmmm.

1063
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: I think that would be a really interesting ending because

1064
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,479
Speaker 4: he seems like he's set up to be the next

1065
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: Homelander because they don't fucking they don't listen to him,

1066
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 4: they keep over talking to him, they treat him like ship.

1067
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 4: It would make sense if he became the new Homelander.

1068
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: And I guess to a certain degree we've seen it

1069
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: this this season more than any other season.

1070
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: But if we.

1071
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: Compare like his his what happened to him this season

1072
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: compared to what happened to Homelander, and can hold him

1073
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: up to one another, they're sort of similar. Even though

1074
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: Homelander was tortured, but he was tortured by people that

1075
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: were in roles that could have easily said no and

1076
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: walked away, but they didn't. They abandoned him and continue

1077
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: to do it because they had a job.

1078
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: He made. He made a point like, yeah, they were scared.

1079
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: Of him and they but they could have said.

1080
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 3: No and they never did.

1081
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: And that's another thing about that again, talking about the

1082
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: humanity and these characters, like when you hear about the

1083
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: stuff that Homelander went through as a kid, like you

1084
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 4: be like bry surprised the right, like that ship is insane.

1085
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, being in the oven and he was like yeah.

1086
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 3: He was like, it's still hurt. It hurt. Yeah, he

1087
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: said it hurt a lot. And then when he's.

1088
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: Man, I don't know, man, but I like what dude

1089
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 5: told him to, Like, you could have lifted any time.

1090
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: The guy told him like, bro.

1091
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 5: You it was terrible what you would endure, but at

1092
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 5: any point in time you wanted to, you could have left.

1093
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: You're that powerful.

1094
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: But he's still a kid. It's right, like, at what point.

1095
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: Was he gonna leave? When he was five, when he

1096
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: was ten? Where are you going? Hue?

1097
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 4: They talked about his birth like he laser beamed out.

1098
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: Of his mama.

1099
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1100
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

1101
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: So yes, I don't know, but yeah, I did enjoy

1102
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: that episode.

1103
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we got to see uh staying stan Egger again.

1104
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: I didn't like that episode with the fucking damn compound

1105
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: sheep and animals or whatever.

1106
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: Crazy. Yeah, that was.

1107
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 4: Hilarious. Vampire sheep was fired. Man, that was funny. As

1108
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: helling me. I loved it.

1109
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, uh huh.

1110
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 4: Only the Boys. I can pull something off like that.

1111
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 4: I think another show and I'm like, all right, this

1112
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 4: is goofy. But the boys they make it to where

1113
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, ship, they got vampire flying sheep.

1114
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: This is crazy fit.

1115
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, it was it was. It

1116
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: was definitely over the top. They had a lot of

1117
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: over the top stuff the ship with web Weaver. I

1118
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: think they went a little that it was funny.

1119
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 2: He kept shipping.

1120
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 4: I didn't care about that. It's funny though, because it

1121
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: was like, bro, if you are in a room with

1122
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 4: Homelander and that is your power.

1123
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, y'all, y'all like this and Dale

1124
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: Joe though.

1125
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 6: Work, Oh that was fun episode so okay, but yeah,

1126
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 6: episode eight man just basically sets up anybody know how

1127
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 6: many seasons.

1128
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 4: They're going one more, next one, next season, last season?

1129
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so like they're doing twenty six. Yeah, that's

1130
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: when he said they're gonna come back because they're doing

1131
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: this year halfway over us is.

1132
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 4: This, Well, they're going to do another gen or whatever

1133
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: it was called gen V. But the dude, the Black

1134
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 4: Dude died of yeah, tragically, but they're doing another season

1135
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: gen V and then I think they're doing a spin

1136
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 4: off of like the early foundings of Yeah, but they

1137
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 4: ended the season really well, like this is how you

1138
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 4: end the season well, because I was legit like, oh ship,

1139
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 4: the Conico ship. I was like, wow, flying off, I

1140
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 4: was like, this is fucking a perfect ending, and.

1141
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: I love to think answer questions and still had cliffhangers.

1142
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, like for Newman like in the beginning the

1143
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: three things like you're to your point, Like in the

1144
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: beginning season you want them to kill Newman, and then

1145
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 4: by the time they do it at the end of

1146
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 4: the season, he's like, oh, I didn't want that, don't

1147
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 4: want Yeah, right, that's crazy.

1148
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, homelanders basically in control.

1149
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: He's running everything because the President's get up there giving

1150
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: the speech.

1151
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 3: He was like, all right, that's enough, yep.

1152
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: And then he gets up there and started talking for everybody,

1153
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, after he outed Newman, which Newman.

1154
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: Had to run and then she ended up dying any

1155
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 3: damn way.

1156
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, like everybody's captured, which I was surprised

1157
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: they captured them and didn't kill them.

1158
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: I thought it was weird. But I don't know why

1159
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: they just wouldn't kill them.

1160
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 4: That's been kind of a thing this whole show, is

1161
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: like why didn't they just fucking kill him and get

1162
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: it over with? But it did make sense. But I

1163
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: don't remember what the reasoning was, but when I was

1164
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: watching it, I was like, oh, okay, but I don't

1165
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 4: remember what it was. Now with Newman, it was like

1166
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 4: they could release her identity and her being the superpower.

1167
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: That's why I feel like she didn't kill.

1168
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 4: Them, right, But there's a reason why, like Homelander in

1169
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 4: them didn't kill them. But I don't remember what it

1170
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: was that I was thinking.

1171
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: Now.

1172
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: I think Sage said something about it. I think she

1173
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: mentioned like, you got to kind of keep them alive

1174
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 4: for some reason. Yeah, I don't remember.

1175
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 3: Fuck, but yeah, I'm with you.

1176
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: I thought Season A was a good close to set up.

1177
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Now that I know it's the fifth and final season

1178
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: that that makes it even better because yeah, I thought

1179
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: they were gonna ride off into the sunset and get

1180
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: away and reconvene later and come back and figure out

1181
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: how to beat them.

1182
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: Nah Man, that shit did not happen at all, So they.

1183
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: Actually kind of they're kind of worse off than they

1184
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: were less.

1185
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're prisoners, and who's gonna get them out

1186
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: Butcher exactly.

1187
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 4: That's the thing. Butcher's gonna have to do it because

1188
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna be Butcher and Starlighter, Starlight whatever. They don't

1189
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 4: like each other. Yeah, well she had no choice because

1190
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 4: that little that fucking fake ass eleven was gonna kill her.

1191
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 4: And he was told her to go.

1192
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: Now hold on, bro, like you got powers, I don't

1193
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: have Powell. You're gonna leave me here with like you

1194
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 3: don't know what they're gonna do.

1195
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 4: That other girl was gonna suck her up. Yeah, she

1196
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 4: was nothing up like I'm about to I'm about to

1197
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 4: fucking fuck you up. And Hugh was like, nah, you

1198
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: need to go because she's about to kill your ass.

1199
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 4: And if I was here, I'd be upset and start like,

1200
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 4: all right, nigga, this is when your parents come back.

1201
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 4: You go scandato, now what.

1202
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: I need you?

1203
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 4: I I like the ending. I was like, wow, I

1204
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 4: really can't wait for another season. I didn't feel like

1205
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: that was season three. I was like, Okay, it's cool

1206
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 4: this season. I was like, oh I need season season

1207
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 4: five now?

1208
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1209
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well any other thoughts.

1210
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty much it.

1211
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it me okay, all right.

1212
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: Uh wells Spike, that's crazy six.

1213
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: All right.

1214
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: Well we'll leave it there, man, let us know your

1215
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: thoughts and we'll cat you guys.

1216
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 3: It signed we off Peace Peace mhm