1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: President Trump threatening to go into Nigeria. He wrote a 4 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: post did the President putting it on truth Social If 5 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 2: the Nigerian government continues to allow the killing of Christians, 6 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: the USA will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria, 7 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: and they very well go into that now disgraced country 8 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: uns ablazing to completely wipe out the Islamic terrorists who 9 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: are committing these horrible atrocities. I am hereby instructing our 10 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Department of Board to prepare for possible action. If we attack, 11 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: you'll be fast, vicious, and sweet, just like the terrorist 12 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: thugs attacked our cherished Christians. Warning the Nigerian government better 13 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: move fast, Tony Kats. Tony Kats today, I appreciate noting 14 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: what is happening to Christians in Nigeria, just like we 15 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: should note what is happening to Christians around the globe. 16 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: And I think that Bill Maher deserves a tip of 17 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: the cap because he did bring this up on the show, 18 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: and he's got a larger platform a few weeks ago, 19 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: and I think it has become a larger conversation because 20 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: of that he was talking to Van Jones at the time. 21 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: The issue here is not Nigerians. The issue here is Islamists. 22 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: No society around the globe can exist in some level 23 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: of coexistence with Islamists, with people who are believers in Sharia, 24 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: with people who have this religious fundamentalism. Cannot be done. 25 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: Christians cannot, Jews cannot, Muslims cannot. It can't be done. 26 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: And it seems to be very hard for some people 27 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: to say so. I am thankful. I am not one 28 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: of those people. 29 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: No society can thrive. 30 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: When that society introduces Islamists to It can't be done. 31 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: Christians being killed with reckless abandon in the first two 32 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: hundred days plus of twenty twenty five. More than seven 33 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: thousand Christians have been killed since two thousand and nine. 34 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: Boko Haram, these Islamists. This was the group where Michelle 35 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: Obama thought she was doing something by holding up a 36 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: sign that says, bring our girls back. Remember when they 37 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: got kidnapped that it was Boco Haam and people didn't 38 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: know what Boko Haram was and you thought some stupid 39 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: photo from the former first Lady which speaking of the 40 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: former first Lady, could you please stop talking about how 41 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: somehow life wasn't been fair to you, and somehow you 42 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 2: were under the gun and somehow you're still mis Could 43 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: you stop it? Stop it already? The pity party is over. 44 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: You don't think America was good to you with eight 45 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: years in the White House and a Netflix steal. 46 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what you were. 47 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: Expecting, but I don't want to hear anymore. I was 48 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: never a fan of your husband. He's an awful guy. 49 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: I always thought. 50 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: You got the like like you got hit unacceptably. You 51 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: didn't deserve the hits your husband got. I always thought 52 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: that was weird, But now you've just proven that you 53 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: want the hits. It's just a constant complaining no thanks. 54 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: Listening to you is like reading Twitter all day, No thanks. 55 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: Since two thousand and nine, Bocoharamas, Lamists have slaughtered more 56 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: than one hundred and twenty five thousand Christians and nineteen 57 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: thousand churches have been destroyed. Of course, they should get 58 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: our help. They should get the help of the free world. 59 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: But if the free world really wants to help, they 60 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: would put an end to Islamist to. 61 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: Wherever they are. 62 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: This becomes a much tougher conversation because in many ways 63 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 2: damage is done. 64 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: At least that's the argument that's made. 65 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 2: Look what's happened in the UK, Look what's happened in France, 66 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: Look what's happened in the whole of Europe. Look at 67 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: what's happened with unfettered immigration immigration, Look what. 68 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: You've allowed in the country. How do you now go 69 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: about solving that problem? In the UK? 70 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: I have made the argument that Prince William will be 71 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: the last king of England. Prince George, his eldest son, 72 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: will never get the opportunity. 73 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 3: Country can't survive. 74 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: The country cannot survive, and the only way it will 75 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: is if the Church of England actually wants to remain 76 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: the Church of England, and that means and that means 77 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: you're going to have to remove the Islamis from your midst. 78 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: Kenneth in the chat Room says, you can't use a 79 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: religious argument for military force. It has to be presented 80 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: as a threat. Islamis Sara threat because if you want 81 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: to say that it is religion, you can, but it 82 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: is clearly a political movement and I can make that 83 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: argument all day. 84 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: I make it without apology. 85 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: The only way the United Kingdom can remain a united 86 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: never mind a kingdom, is to remove the Islamist threat 87 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: that's going to lead to a lot of fighting. Yep, 88 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: there's a story out of Dearborn. Dearborn residents startled by 89 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: FBI raids connected to thwarted Halloween terra plot. 90 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: That we discussed. 91 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: This story that took place last week where these raids 92 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: took place in Dearborn place called Inkster I n Kster. 93 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: It was cashpitel the FBI director saying that they had 94 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: thwarted a potential terrorist attack. Homes were rated, multiple people 95 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: were arrested. Now, we don't have the story yet. We 96 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: don't have the data yet. We don't have everything as 97 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: of yet. The individuals range in age from sixteen to 98 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: the age of twenty. 99 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: This is all we know right now. 100 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: We don't have anything else to this story about what 101 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: it is that has taken place. We do know that 102 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: Dearborn has a large Muslim population at this moment, I 103 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: don't have anything yet. 104 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: I don't have anything about the who was arrested. 105 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: Uh wait, I do literally just coming out I was 106 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: doing the searching. Two men are facing federal charges in 107 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: connection with what the FBI says was a foiled plot 108 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: for a Halloween weekend terrorist attack in Detroit. Mahmed Ali 109 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: and Majed Mahmud are accused of quote, receiving and transferring 110 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: and attempting and conspiring to transfer firearms and ammunition, knowing 111 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: and having reasonable cause to believe that the firearms and 112 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: ammunition would be used to commit a crime a federal 113 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: crime of terrorism. A seventy three page criminal complaint. They 114 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: will be in a Detroit courtroom this afternoon. Conspirators include 115 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: a juvenile. They had allegedly traveled multiple times over the 116 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: past few months scouting possible LGBTQ plus friendly attack locations. 117 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: There is so much here. There is so much to 118 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: dig in on. 119 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: Now. 120 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: First, it is not surprising to anyone who heard that 121 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,239 Speaker 2: this took place in Dearborn. The names of the accused. 122 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: I do not know their story. I do not know. 123 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: If they are American citizens. I do not know if 124 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: they're immigrants. 125 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: I don't have that answer. The complaint says that the 126 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: alleged plot was quote on behalf of the designated foreign 127 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: terrorist Organization ISIS, and one of these guys bought more 128 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: than sixteen hundred rounds of ammunition that quote could be 129 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: used in the ar fifteen style rifles he and the 130 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: other guy had purchased. We have to be people who 131 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: can admit that there is an American way of life 132 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: and some things are not compatible. No Islamist is compatible 133 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: with the Western way of life. No Islamist is compatible 134 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: with any way of life outside that that the Islamist desires. 135 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: Because the Islamist only knows my way or you die, 136 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: and that is it. 137 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: Don't even tell me about the jijua paying the tax, 138 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: don't tell me about living under subjugation. 139 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 3: It is my way or die. 140 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: I've said before that Islam needs a reformation and needs 141 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: it bad. But I take a look at the story 142 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: out of Nigeria. I take a look at this attack 143 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: on Christians, and I take a look at stories like this, 144 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: and I take a look at as I've discussed the 145 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: United Kingdom, and I asked myself, what happens here? You 146 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: say to me, Tony, we're a nation that has religious freedom, 147 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 2: Thank goodness, we do. Are we sure we're talking about 148 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: this as religion? Well, Tony, what are you suggesting? Not 149 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: suggesting anything. I am stating that Islam needs a reformation. 150 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: I am stating that the Islamist is not religious in 151 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: any way other than just as a level of code. 152 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: Can we at least admit to the basics? Well, Tony, 153 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: that's just bigoted against Muslims. I reject the premise of 154 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: that statement. I have got stories. Why can't I connect 155 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: the dots? 156 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: No? 157 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: Wait, I can? Why won't other people connect the dots? 158 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 2: And why will they tell me I'm some kind of 159 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: biggot if I do? There is a fundamental issue happening 160 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: around the globe. And that fundamental issue, whether in Dearborn, 161 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: or whether in Nigeria or whether in Gaza, has to 162 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: do with Islamists who want to kill. 163 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: What kind of a rational person doesn't say so? Winston Churchill? 164 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: Was it going back to nineteen thirty five, Maybe it 165 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: was earlier. Winston Churchill warned in the House of Commons, 166 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: day in and day out, again and again and again 167 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: and again that Hitler is the threat, that's the threat 168 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: to human civilization, that is not just a threat to 169 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: the empire, that is the threat to survival rit large. 170 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: Every day he was laughed at, and every day he 171 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: must have felt humiliated, And every day he said it again, 172 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 2: and every day he was dismissed as a warmonger. First 173 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: you lead us to the Dardenelle's and now you want 174 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: to what repeat the folly? And Neville Chamberlain, who he 175 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: had worked with, comes back as Prime minister. There will 176 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: be peace in our time and an accord with the Germans. 177 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: And Winston Churchill still said, this is a fool's errand 178 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: this is a mistake. Here we are with the enemy 179 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: facing us. Will we not prepare and confront it before 180 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: it is too late? 181 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: And then we the Germans. 182 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: They took the rest of Czechosovakia, and then they made 183 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: their moves on friends. 184 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: Jnsen I might have a little bit of timeline off there, 185 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: And the British people said, oh, oh gosh, look at that. 186 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: I guess he was right. I do not believe that 187 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister. 188 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: Of the United Kingdom today, Keir Starmer, could save the UK. 189 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: I don't think he has the strength. I don't even 190 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: think he has a conviction. He is not the man, 191 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: he is the Neville Chamberlain. In order for the UK 192 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: to be saved, it is Prince William who to look 193 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: at his subjects and say we must survive. In order 194 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: for the world to survive, it must for all its differences, 195 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: say none of us can survive if the Islamist threat 196 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: is left unchecked. I know that this is hard for some, 197 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: but the reality has been in our face for decades. 198 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: It was in our face when they threw Leon Klinghoffer 199 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: off via Achille Lauro. 200 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: Wheelchair and all. 201 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: The Islamist threat is real and we must either deal 202 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: with it now or it will deal with us tomorrow. 203 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: There is no other way to view it. I'm Tony Katz. 204 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats Today.