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Speaker 1: Live from ball Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, day twenty seven of the shutdown.

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Speaker 2: Good lord, all right, you didn't have this on your

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Speaker 1: You didn't know it would last this long. Democrats, man,

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Speaker 1: they are, they are convinced this is winning strategy. And

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Speaker 1: so it was Speaker Mike Johnson doing his daily thing.

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Speaker 1: Who's now going for flat out jugglars. Look what you're doing, Democrats.

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Speaker 1: And then, oh, by the way, look who you're supporting,

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 1: This was Speaker Johnson saying, listen, people are going without paychecks.

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Speaker 1: This is the real world, and this is all the

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Speaker 1: fault of the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: And many more are deemed essential workers, those who are essential,

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Speaker 3: for example, to keep the country safe TSA agents we've

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Speaker 3: discussed in air traffic controllers and border patrol and of course.

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Speaker 4: Our troops, but so many of them now are going

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Speaker 3: The families of military service members and the air traffic

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Speaker 3: of this month. The Trump administration has done everything possible

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Every Republican in Congress wants to stop this madness desperately,

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Speaker 3: and we have voted many times, over a dozen times

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Speaker 3: collectively thirteen times to reopen the government, to keep it

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Speaker 1: Can I ask why that doesn't matter to Democrats. There

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Speaker 1: have been vote after vote after vote after vote, and Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Keep voting no. Their argument is, well, you won't sit

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Speaker 1: Talk to us. Look at him going, President Trump's going

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Speaker 1: He shouldn't do his job. Isn't that part of his job?

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Speaker 1: Negotiating the trade deals, trying to bring peace between Cambodia

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Speaker 1: have to sit down and talk to you about, you

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Speaker 1: have said. Democrats keep saying, and I've brought this up

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Speaker 1: at that part doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: You want what you want.

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Speaker 1: The President said no, So now you're going to tell

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Speaker 2: And every day this.

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Speaker 1: Goes on, you're the ones who are blamed. And while

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Speaker 1: I have said many times that no one's paying attention,

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Speaker 3: But here's the very simple and important fact that no

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Speaker 4: We have no ability.

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Speaker 3: Republicans do not have the ability to do this on

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Speaker 1: Now what the Democrats, I shouldn't say the Republicans. What

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Speaker 3: The Democrats are the ones voting repeatedly to shut down

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Speaker 1: I assume they're going to keep doing what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: By the way, noting that Islamists are a problem for

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Speaker 2: People who believe in Sharia, people who believe that you

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Speaker 1: Acossio Cortes City was built by the Irish escaping fan

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Speaker 1: You know what, Let her run for president because that

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Speaker 1: that is not going to gain young men. Nope, young

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Speaker 1: in all Howard Dean kind of weirdo space, with that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bad, bad comparison to have in your life.

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Speaker 4: List of hits that I could share with you, Zorund.

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Speaker 3: Mamdami is expected to take the helm of one of

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Speaker 1: It's not the best approach, but it's not bad. This

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Speaker 6: You know dictatorship, you know it's art when the president

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Speaker 1: First things first, this guy is going to lecture to

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Speaker 2: You had a quite literally a.

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Speaker 2: Remarkable, what a remarkable statement.

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Speaker 1: Now you don't think it's okay that you shut down USAID.

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Speaker 7: Fourteen million people.

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Speaker 1: The generosity of the American people. That's called charity and

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Speaker 7: But by the way, this isn't like, oh if we.

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Speaker 7: There and there, and they're burning it.

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Speaker 1: The argument is, did you need the admit idministration the

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Speaker 2: That's the argument.

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Speaker 7: But he did it.

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Speaker 6: By the time anybody gets around directifying it, it's gone.

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Speaker 2: You're upset that a slush fund you like doesn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 1: You don't need the progressive enabled slush fund.

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Speaker 1: So as it got announced today in the conversation about redissecting,

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Speaker 2: Of course Texas did it.

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Speaker 1: Then California said we're going to engage in retribution and

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Speaker 2: And it has been a big push.

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Speaker 1: And today it got announced that the Governor Mike Brawn

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Speaker 2: But leave that to the side.

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Speaker 1: Will they readdistrict in the state of Indiana. Understand that

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Speaker 2: No guarantee that it's going to work. None.

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Speaker 2: I favor the redistricting.

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Speaker 1: When I favor the redistricting because the state of Indiana

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Speaker 1: And you say to me, aren't the people allowed to

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Speaker 1: But the districts are not drawn in that way. If

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Speaker 1: They didn't steal the vote in Illinois. They didn't steal

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Speaker 6: Me.

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Speaker 1: I favor the redistricting because when Texas did it, well,

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Speaker 1: You can't say, well, we don't do that. No it's

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Speaker 1: that is not the way it works, you must fight

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Speaker 2: They drew him out of his district.

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Speaker 1: There is no room in their place for people who disagree,

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Speaker 1: And then they look at you and say, why are

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Speaker 1: Why can't you just fight fair?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Good lord. They want you to live by rules

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Speaker 2: they don't live by.

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Speaker 1: California is engaged in retribution, and I believe that one

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Speaker 2: So the go of Indiana has called the special session.

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Speaker 2: Joe Gruiders is the chairman of the Republican National.

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Speaker 2: But not only did we.

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Speaker 8: Listen, Well, I first, thank you for having me on, Tony.

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Speaker 8: But redistricting is first and foremost to a lot of people.

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Speaker 8: And we've talked to the President the Vice President. They've

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Speaker 8: been actively working on this issue, and you know, I

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Speaker 8: have full faith and confidence that the Indiana will do

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Speaker 8: the right thing at the at the end of the day,

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Speaker 8: and the president's taking the lead himself, and we've sent

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Speaker 8: of weeks ago to Indiana. I know they've had numerous conversations,

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Speaker 8: So wait to see what happens.

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Speaker 1: You've had the Vice President here twice, you had a

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Speaker 1: call from President Trump. You mentioned do the right thing

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Speaker 1: in your words in your elevator pitch to Indiana Republicans

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Speaker 1: or hoosis in general.

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Speaker 2: What how do you describe what the right thing is?

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Speaker 8: Well, listen, at the end of the day, it's it's

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Speaker 8: basically resetting the scales to what the Democrats have been

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Speaker 8: doing for the last couple of decades across the country

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Speaker 8: and blue states.

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Speaker 7: There's one or two seats.

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Speaker 8: In Indiana that are that are potentially up. But again,

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Speaker 8: you know what I'm focused on on a day in,

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Speaker 8: day out basis is making sure the election integory is

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Speaker 8: first and foremost. We're protecting the vote, we're getting out

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Speaker 8: the vote, and we're doing everything that we need so

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Speaker 8: no matter what happens, we're prepared to win the mid terms.

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Speaker 2: The midterms do matter.

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Speaker 1: Talking to the chairman of the Republican National Committee, Joe Gruders,

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Speaker 1: and I want to get to that in a moment,

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Speaker 1: But you have Republicans here. It was oddly leaked last week.

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Speaker 2: That Republicans didn't have the vote, and I thought it

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Speaker 2: was a.

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Speaker 1: Very strange story in that if I was a spokesperson

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Speaker 1: for the Indiana Republican Party, I would only leak that

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Speaker 1: story if I was trying to put pressure on Republicans

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Speaker 1: in Indiana to go in favor of redistricting.

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Speaker 2: So first there's the calling of the special session, and.

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Speaker 1: Then there asks to be an actual vote on whether

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Speaker 1: or not we redistrict. There will be people who say,

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Speaker 1: here are these outsiders coming into Indiana trying to pressure

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Speaker 1: our legislators and not letting the state decide for itself.

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Speaker 2: How do you respond to those things.

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Speaker 8: Well, listen, you're right, it's the state that will ultimately decide.

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Speaker 8: But yes, President Trump has made some calls. The Vice

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Speaker 8: President's been there twice, and listen. Just to let you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm a state senator and senator in Florida, and so

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Speaker 8: I know what the pressure as a legilatory that you feel.

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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, hopefully they'll step

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Speaker 8: up and do what's right. But I have full faith

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Speaker 8: and confidence in the President the Vice President and that

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Speaker 8: their negotiations and their discussions they are having with members

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Speaker 8: of the Indiana Senate and the legislature will be positive.

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Speaker 1: And so when they're told that you're just trying to

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Speaker 1: steal elections, that you don't know how to fight, you're

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Speaker 1: losing on the issues. The Indiana Democratic Party says, you're

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Speaker 1: losing on healthcare and you're losing on this, You're losing

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Speaker 1: on that. How do you engage with Republicans in response

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Speaker 1: to it?

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Speaker 8: Well, I would say exactly opposit, because we're winning on

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Speaker 8: the issues. Because the thirty states at track voter registration

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Speaker 8: over the last four years, we're winning all thirty of

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Speaker 8: those and it's not because of you know, just the

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Speaker 8: party doing its job. It's because the president is leading

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Speaker 8: on policies. The first two hundred and fifty days has

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Speaker 8: been nothing other than spectacular from a delivery standpoint, and

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Speaker 8: I think the American public sees exactly what's going on

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Speaker 8: and they're responding and that's why we're winning over voter registration.

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Speaker 8: And so at the end of the day, like I said,

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Speaker 8: what the Vice President says is this is a resetting

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Speaker 8: of the scales to counter what the Democrats are doing

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Speaker 8: in what they've been doing for decades across the blue state.

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Speaker 1: So talking to Joe Gruders, he is the chairman of

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Speaker 1: chairman twitter x handle. Right there, we talk about the midterms.

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Speaker 1: I constantly am reminding people that election day is November third,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: You know, we take a look at the.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four election and it was a big win

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Speaker 1: for President Trump, not as much for Republicans, especially when

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Speaker 1: you take a look at swing states where President Trump

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Speaker 1: won over Kamala Harris. But Sam Brown loses the Senate

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Speaker 1: race in Nevada, Carrie Lake loses the Senate race in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: you lose the Senate race in Michigan, you lose the

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Speaker 1: Senate race in Wisconsin with Hovedan. These were these are

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Speaker 1: places that we should have the sixty vote majorar in

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Speaker 1: the Senate and we don't. So what are Republicans doing

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Speaker 1: to build their name, id to build their opportunities with

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Speaker 1: voters in this midterm which traditionally goes to the party

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Speaker 1: out of power.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're exactly right.

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Speaker 8: We're two and thirty nine and last forty one cycles

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Speaker 8: in terms of the power of the party with the incumbency,

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Speaker 8: and it says, I mean, there's a lot of headwinds

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Speaker 8: going against us. But that being said, I think that

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Speaker 8: the president's policies are going to guide us a victory.

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Speaker 8: That and combined with the fact that we're actively playing

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Speaker 8: a role in candidate recruitment to make sure we have

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Speaker 8: the right courses for the right courses. I always say,

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Speaker 8: you can have Susan Collins running Texas and you can't

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Speaker 8: have Ted Cruz running Maine. We're actively involved with making

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Speaker 8: sure we have the right candidates in place, and we're

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Speaker 8: going to listen. We're making sure that we're going to.

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Speaker 7: Be well funded.

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Speaker 8: You know, the party is firing on all cylinders because

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Speaker 8: you know, the Vice President himself is our finance chairman.

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Speaker 8: We're sitting on you know, ninety million dollars. I think

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Speaker 8: the Democrats have twelve million, and that our sister committees

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Speaker 8: to inter st ce and then our c SEA is

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Speaker 8: well funded.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to stop.

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Speaker 8: And in what we're focused on a day and day

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Speaker 8: out basis is making sure that we're doing everything we

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Speaker 8: can to protect the vote. And so there's going to

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Speaker 8: be no we're going to limit sNaN against from happening,

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Speaker 8: and we're going to we're going to be aggressive in

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Speaker 8: these races, and we know exactly what races we're targeting.

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Speaker 8: There's about thirteen Trumps that we call the Trump thirteen.

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Speaker 8: Thirteen House races that Trump won, we're Democrat member of

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Speaker 8: Congress holds. On the flip side of that, there's three

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Speaker 8: districts that Kamala Harris won the Republicans holds. So out

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Speaker 8: of all the seats, there's probably.

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Speaker 4: Sixteen super competitive seats.

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Speaker 8: And then if you go from there, we have a

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Speaker 8: couple of seats we have to hold in the Senate,

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Speaker 8: which I think we will, but then we have three

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Speaker 8: great pickup opportunities. The maps look amazing for us in

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Speaker 8: the set, but listen, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 8: we have to continue to prove to the American people that

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Speaker 8: we're the party that's making things happen.

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Speaker 2: And then I go back to.

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Speaker 8: Presence policies and what he's been doing with the p seals,

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Speaker 8: But he's been doing for the average everyday American out there, working,

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Speaker 8: you know, day in day out to make sure that

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Speaker 8: America's positioned to move forward.

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Speaker 2: And you're also ring job.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to interrupt you talking to Joe Gruder's

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Speaker 1: chairman of the Republican National Committee, but you also said something

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Speaker 1: I think is very important. Susan Collins Ted Cruz Republicans,

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Speaker 1: but you know, not all Republicans are created equal.

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Speaker 2: You're having the conversation of.

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Speaker 1: Win as you can to the best of your ability

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Speaker 1: in the places that you can, and that kind of

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Speaker 1: recognition doesn't always seem to get rewarded by the MAGA crowd.

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Speaker 2: So how do you how do you make that happen?

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Speaker 8: Listen, we have to we have to make sure we

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Speaker 8: do everything humanly possible to win the mid terms, because

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Speaker 8: what you're seeing with the shutdowns right now is exactly

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Speaker 8: what's going to be what's going to happen in the

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Speaker 8: presidence last two years if we give them the House

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Speaker 8: of the Senate. So there's no option. We have to win,

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Speaker 8: and so we are going to find what I always say,

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Speaker 8: the most conservative candidate that can win in the particular district.

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Speaker 8: So yes, that means we have a wide range of

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Speaker 8: candidates that aber candidates at the end of the day

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Speaker 8: representing us in the general election. But we have to win.

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Speaker 8: We're going to We're going to pick out the best

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Speaker 8: candidates and try to support them and make sure they

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Speaker 8: have the funding that they need and listen to presidents

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Speaker 8: on a mission he is. He is fully committed to

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Speaker 8: winning the mid terms. I talked to him on an

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Speaker 8: ongoing basis about what we're doing, about what we're doing

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Speaker 8: on the ground, what we're doing in terms of raising money,

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Speaker 8: you know, what we're doing about candidate the recruitment.

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Speaker 7: And listen.

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Speaker 8: He is he is very in tuned to everything that's happening,

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Speaker 8: and he understands what's at stake and I go back

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Speaker 8: to look at what's happening in the shutdown right now,

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Speaker 8: and that's a preview of what the Democrats are going

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Speaker 8: to do for two years that they end up winning something.

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Speaker 1: Joe Gruders, he is the chairman of the Republican and

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Speaker 1: National Committee. Appreciate him taking the time being with us

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Speaker 1: more to get to I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: This is a fascinating look at crime statistics. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today, Good.

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Speaker 2: To be with you.

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Speaker 1: Find everything over at Tony Katz dot com. I have

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Speaker 1: it on the show. You can check it out for

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Speaker 1: yourself over there Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 2: It was about what you can trust, and I do agree.

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Speaker 1: That it is I would argue in many cases painfully

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Speaker 1: obvious and certainly in every case questionable whether or not

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Speaker 1: major cities are properly reporting crime statistics. Are they under

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Speaker 1: reporting to be able to show less so they could say,

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Speaker 1: see everything's fine? Are they mislabeling? This brings us to

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Speaker 1: a guy who I am not I know the name,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know personally. Matt van swoll Swol, former

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Speaker 1: nuclear scientists in the Department of Energy, so smart dude.

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Speaker 2: One could assume. So his story is that he took

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Speaker 2: a look at crime data. That's the argument.

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Speaker 1: I took a look at crime data, and that he

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Speaker 1: searched through records of arrests.

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Speaker 2: In his county. You know, these things are public information.

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Speaker 1: You can look through them, and every time he came

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Speaker 1: across a Hispanic individual.

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Speaker 2: Who had been arrested, it got labeled as white.

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Speaker 1: Now I have no reason to think that he is lying,

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Speaker 1: but if you were able to show me how this

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Speaker 1: was incorrect, I would talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But he's got the screenshots.

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Speaker 1: And here are four different men, ages twenty two to

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Speaker 1: forty six, all of them with Spanish or Hispanic names,

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Speaker 1: and all of them the race says white, when clearly

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Speaker 1: nobody would categorize as such. According to Matt van Swall,

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Speaker 1: there are thousands of these records.

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Speaker 2: Some do say unknown, like there's.

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Speaker 1: One where it twenty nine year old and it says

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Speaker 1: gender unknown and race unknown.

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Speaker 2: It's very, very, very strange.

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Speaker 1: And then you can go to Texas where they've got

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Speaker 1: the public sex offender website and it says ethnicity non Hispanic. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're looking and you know that that is completely not true.

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Speaker 1: And here's another one that says white when they're not.

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Speaker 1: Here's another one that says white and not. Here's another

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Speaker 1: one that says race white and it is not. And

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Speaker 1: you say to me, hey, mistakes happen. You'll note that

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Speaker 1: they only go in one direction. And when they only

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Speaker 1: go in one direction, it is not a mistake. It

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Speaker 1: is the standard. So when you tell me or I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't say you you because you wouldn't do that. They

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Speaker 1: try to tell us about crimes and who's committing this

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Speaker 1: and who's the real danger here?

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Speaker 2: I am not going to believe.

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Speaker 1: This requires a lot of crowdsourcing work. We should all

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Speaker 1: be working on this exactly. How many mistakes are out there,

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Speaker 1: how many people are being classified as white, who aren't,

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Speaker 1: and who is doing the classification and for what purpose?

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Speaker 2: But we know for what purpose?

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Speaker 1: The purpose is this DEI woke can't tell the truth, nonsense.

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Speaker 1: The purpose is to put forward the narrative that, look,

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Speaker 1: how dangerous white people are as opposed to what.

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Speaker 2: Is it that we're actually dealing with, and how can

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Speaker 2: we do better with it?

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Speaker 1: How do we fix the problems that we have as

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Speaker 1: a nation, and how in the world could you fix them?

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Speaker 1: If people are lying every step of the way for

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Speaker 1: a purpose of their own ideological desires and not reality.

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Speaker 1: In order for us to solve problems, we must be

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Speaker 1: honest about what it is.

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Speaker 2: We're dealing with in all cases, no matter what.

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Speaker 1: When you don't have honesty, what possible good results could

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