1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Why from ball Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: This dire public safety crisis stems directly from the abject 4 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: failures of the city's local leadership. The radical left city 5 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: Council adopted no cash bail. By the way, every place 6 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: in the country you have no cash bail is a disaster. 7 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: That's what started the problem in New York. And they 8 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: don't change it. They don't want to change it. That's 9 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: what started it in Chicago. I mean, bad politicians started it. 10 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Bad leadership started it. But that was the one thing 11 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: that's central. No cash bail. Somebody murders somebody and they're 12 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: out or no cash bail before the day is out. 13 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: We're going to end that in Chicago. We're going to 14 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: change the statute. I spoke with Pam and Todd and everybody. 15 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: We're going to change the statue. And I'm going to 16 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: have to get the Republicans of oh because the Democrats 17 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: are weak on crime, totally weak on crime. 18 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: You knew that's where this was going, right. 19 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: This conversation about the federalizing, if you will, of DC 20 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: is the conversation about saying, look at what Democrats have 21 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: done to you. 22 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: We're going to do something about it. 23 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 4: And in this conversation, one must keep in mind that 24 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: no one is having a conversation about anything that is 25 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: outside the law. 26 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 27 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: Find everything at Tony kats dot com, the live stream 28 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: happening over there, at YouTube dot com, slash Tonycats, or 29 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 4: on Facebook, Twitter there not face well, Facebook, Tony Cats, Radio, 30 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: Twitter x at Tony Katz. There was even a part 31 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 4: during his presser where he said he used to be uh, 32 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 4: you know, you can do anything you. 33 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: Want to the cops. 34 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: You could spit on the cops, and now it's uh, 35 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: you know you spit, we hit the cops. Used to 36 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: be hamstrung, and now they can do anything. Well, no, 37 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: they can't do anything. For the sake of clarity, and 38 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: I don't want a society where the cop can do anything. 39 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: But that said, what people want, they. 40 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 4: Want law and order and they want security, and the 41 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: political left can't give it, refuses to give it, is 42 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 4: incapable of giving it. And in many situations one should 43 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 4: argue won't give it. They won't. It is obvious and 44 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: and something President Trump brought up. Do you guys really 45 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: want this. 46 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: You you you, you live in these You live in 47 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: these places, You in these cities. 48 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: Why in the world would you want the lawlessness, Why 49 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 4: would in the world would you want the violence? 50 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: You live here? This was President Trump. 51 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: Understand a lot of you tend to be on the 52 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: liberal side, but you don't want to get You don't 53 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: want to get mugged and raped and shot and killed. 54 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: And you all know people and friends of yours that happened. 55 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: And so you can be any anything you want, but 56 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: you want to have safety in the streets. 57 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: You want to be able to leave your apartment or 58 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: your house where you live and feel safe and go 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: into a store to buy a newspaper, buy something. 60 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: And you don't have that now. 61 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: The murder rate in Washington today is higher than that 62 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: of Bogata, Columbia, Mexico City, some of the places that 63 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: you hear about as being the worst places. 64 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: On Earth's much higher. 65 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: This is much higher. The number of carth fs has 66 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: doubled over the past five years, and the number of 67 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: car jackings has more than tripled. Murders in twenty twenty 68 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: three reached the highest rate probably ever, they say, twenty 69 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: five years, but they don't know what that means, because 70 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: it just goes back twenty five years. 71 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 5: Can't be worse. 72 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: Our capital city. 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: Has been overtaken by violent gangs and bloodthirsty criminals, roving 74 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: mobs of wild youth. 75 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 4: He's not wrong, he is not wrong. And there'll be 76 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: people who say that this is racists. Allow me, because 77 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 4: I often get the hit on the other side. Why 78 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 4: won't you say this is about black men or about 79 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 4: black culture. Allow me, this is about liberal culture. One 80 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: could argue that this is about godless culture. But I 81 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: think there are plenty people who are atheists or agnostic 82 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: who understand decency, and I don't think that they should 83 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: somehow be told that they are less so because of 84 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: a lack of faith. 85 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: That's just not who I am. 86 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 4: In the same breath, the idea that if you are black, 87 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: this is what's. 88 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: Going to happen, this is what you will do, this 89 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: is what you will condone. 90 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 4: That's nonsense, That is nonsense. We all know that to 91 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: be true. So what we are looking at is liberal culture. 92 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: We are looking at an ideology, a culture, a value 93 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: system of philosophy that does, in many respects, say you're ode. 94 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 4: White people did this, and white people did that and 95 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: white people did the other. And if someone thinks that 96 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: that's bigger than of me, I'm sorry. 97 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 3: I'm not the one who said any of that stuff. 98 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: That was Al Sharpton, that was Jamel Hill, that was 99 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: Nicole Hannah Jones in the lie of the sixteen nineteen project, 100 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: that was Ellie mastaal and the list goes on and 101 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: on and on and on. 102 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: If you want to argue. 103 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: That James Baldwin had the right arguments regarding that the 104 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: only thing that the black man is looking for in 105 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 4: America is a chance to speak out about the issues 106 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: that they are experiencing, then I would have to ask, 107 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 4: mister Baldwin, if you are still alive today, what does 108 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: this tell you. This tells you somehow of an opportunity 109 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: not yet realized, This tells you of a promise not 110 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 4: yet delivered? Or does this tell you something about where 111 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: a philosophy is taking place, taking hold, taking root? If 112 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: we argue properly, we understand that this is about liberal culture, 113 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: a culture of having no responsibility for one's actions. 114 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: Everything and everyone else is against you. Everything is positioned 115 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: against you. 116 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: You are only reacting in a way because of what 117 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: others have done to you or done against you. The 118 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: entire philosophy is one that abdicates the concept of personal responsibility. 119 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: What does it matter at somebody else's fault, Whatever does 120 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: the matter at somebody else's issue? 121 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: What does it matter? 122 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 4: There is no consequence except what my emotions tell me 123 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: at the moment. 124 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: I must satisfy that and always. 125 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: That's the liberal philosophy, that's the liberal mindset, that is 126 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: liberal culture. Does it matter to me if Charlemagne the 127 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: God or Sonny Host had tell me, I can't speak 128 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: about this because I'm not black, bull crap talk about 129 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: any subjects I want. Do they actually think they could 130 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: tell me not to? They can come here and try, 131 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: but they better come heavy. We have honest conversations, because 132 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: that's all we have left. And what we see in 133 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: the streets has nothing to do. 134 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: Nothing at all to do with being black. It has 135 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: to do with liberalism. 136 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: Because while the action you may see is a group 137 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: of black kids here and a group of black kids there, 138 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: and it's not just a group. 139 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: That's happening in lots of places across the country. I 140 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: don't want to diminish it. 141 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: Who are the ones giving them the biggest defense white 142 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: liberal women, proving my point, proving the argument. 143 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: Now, have you said to me. 144 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: That young black kids, boys and girls are inundated with 145 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: these lies, this hate, with this vitriol, with this concept 146 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: that somehow they can never do any wrong, they gotta 147 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 4: be the toughest people at. 148 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: All times, and everybody else has to give to them. 149 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: I will concede that that is true. I will also 150 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: say that it is larger than specifically black men and 151 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: black women and black boys and black girls. But that 152 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: part is true. But where that comes from has nothing 153 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: to do with the color of one's skin. It doesn't 154 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 4: has to do with liberalism as a whole. And the 155 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: violence that we see and the brutality that we see 156 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: in DC has to do with that. And by the way, 157 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: in Chicago, in Los Angeles, in San Francisco, in my belive, 158 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 4: in Indianapolis, in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in Orlando, in Saint Louis, 159 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: in Peoria, in Detroit, in Baton. 160 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: Rouge, this is it. So this move. 161 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: From President Trump, people are going to scream, and they 162 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: are going to yell, and they are going to holler. 163 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 4: They're going to lose their minds and they're going to 164 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: say on the political left. You see, Trump's an authoritarian. 165 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: I start where I started. This has nothing to do 166 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: with a changing of any laws anywhere. This has to 167 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 4: do with the implementation of the laws in multiple states. 168 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: There are conversations, I should state, in multiple red states, 169 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: there are conversations about how does one handle the blue 170 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: cities and the lawlessness therein Maybe this is Trump given 171 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: a little bit of Eh, here you go, here's what 172 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: something you can do. But people are going to see 173 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: this and they're not going to scream Trump is an authoritarian. 174 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 4: Oh sure they will on MSNBC, but that's what they're 175 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: paid to do. The circus seal will do what the 176 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: circus seal does in order to get the bit of fish. 177 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: But in real America, all. 178 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: Around America, they're gonna say, well, look at that. 179 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: Somebody's finally taking crime seriously. 180 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: Someone's finally saying to those law rent prosecutors like, oh, 181 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: we don't prosecute this, that and the other, that. 182 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: Your day is done. 183 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: And maybe people who live in the cities who want 184 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: something better will grow up and vote differently to the 185 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: people who live in the cities these left run cities, 186 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 4: lefty run cities, and you know, it's a disaster. Stop 187 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: voting for Democrats. Stop thinking abortion is the single most 188 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: important subject in the world, because it's not. And vote 189 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: for a Republican and see what happens. Vote for a 190 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 4: libertarian and see what happens. But stop voting for these 191 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: Democrats who don't do you any good. They take your 192 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: vote for granted. They hate you, and they don't care 193 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 4: if your kid dies. They don't care if you bury 194 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 4: all your kids. Haven't they proven that? So stop voting 195 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 4: for them. This is about you. You want better. You 196 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 4: like what you're seeing here, somebody finally taking crime seriously. Well, 197 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 4: then change what you do. 198 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: Doesn't matter. 199 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: Your city is dying or dead and you need to 200 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: keep it from dying or revive it. Your kids aren't 201 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: safe and you can't afford to move. 202 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: Now what. 203 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 6: Now? 204 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: What change the way you think, Give up the cultural 205 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: attacks and the people who provide the cultural attacks on you. 206 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: Try something different. 207 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: Yes, MSNBC and CNN will scream authoritarianism. The rest of 208 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: America will scream why aren't we doing that? Here, I've 209 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: got more on this, keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, 210 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 4: and this is Tony Katz. 211 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: Today. 212 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: Trump putin the conversation I don't know what's going to 213 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: come of it. They are gonna meet in Alaska on Friday. 214 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: Vice President Vance. 215 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 6: To your point about weapons, what we said to the 216 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 6: Europeans is simply, first of all, this is in your 217 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 6: neck of the woods, this is in your back door. 218 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 6: You guys have got to step up and take a 219 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 6: bigger role in this thing. And if you care so 220 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 6: much about this conflict, you should be willing to play 221 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 6: a more direct and a more substantial way in funding 222 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 6: this warriorself. I think the President and I certainly think 223 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 6: that America we're done with the funding of the Ukraine 224 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 6: war business. We want to bring about a peaceful settlement 225 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 6: to this thing. We want to stop the killing. But Americans, 226 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 6: I think are sick of continuing to send their money, 227 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 6: their talk dollars to this particular conflict. 228 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: I got to admit to you that the more I 229 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: hear jd. 230 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: Vance, the Vice President, on this subject, I think the 231 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 4: worst he comes across in that his argument is not based, 232 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: but rather it's thin. Tony Katz Tony Katz Today, good 233 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: to be with you. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. 234 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 4: Do I think that Americans are exhausted with support of Ukraine. 235 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: I don't. 236 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: Are there people loud on the political right who are 237 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: exhausted with support of Ukraine. Absolutely, And this sounds like 238 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: a conversation of pushing an idea and ideology as opposed 239 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 4: to where Americans really are. So just say it the 240 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: way it is. I don't think we should be doing this. 241 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: I think we can come up with a better way. Well, 242 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: that's fine, but I don't think that's representative of America. 243 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: Steve Bannon is not representative of where America is on this, 244 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: just not They're not representative on the fact that. 245 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: Rush is the aggressor. 246 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: Rush is the aggressor, end of list, and any argument 247 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: of what you see the problem with the Ukrainians, and 248 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: that's an inconsequential argument. If Russia ad invaded Ukraine, we 249 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: could talk about the problem with you Graadian governments. But 250 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: they did and they started killing and they won't stop killing, 251 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: and that's all there is to it. So I would 252 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: argue that in certainly not regarding the left side of 253 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: the Aisle, that simply favors giving anything Ukraine wants, anything 254 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: Ukraine asks for, they get right, they favor that because 255 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: Trump doesn't want that, or Jadie Vance doesn't want that. 256 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: That's not an argument either. 257 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: The argument is what is it that we can expect 258 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: to do to try and get this to stop? And 259 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 4: maybe the follow up is is that our job, which 260 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 4: would be a much more honest conversation than the one 261 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: I think Jade Vance is getting there in the conversation 262 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: with Maria Bartiromo a Fox Business I don't think that 263 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: he's presenting the honesty. First things first, should we what 264 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: do we care? I think we should. People like Kurt 265 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: Schlichter from town Hall, it's like, nope, this is their issue. 266 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: We don't need to put any blood or treasure to this. 267 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: I do not favor, like I have said from the 268 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: very beginning years ago, sending in one troop. I do 269 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: not favor, for example, no fly zones. When that conversation 270 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: came up, no, no, no, I don't favor any of that. 271 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: I favor weapons, and I favor bullets. I absolutely do. 272 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:31,359 Speaker 4: We should be talking about weapons and bullets going to Ukraine. 273 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: I think it's weird to not favor those things. I 274 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 4: think it's weird to favor the idea of here come 275 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 4: the Russians. They've decided to take some land. Oh well, 276 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: now I can say also that when I see Daniel 277 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: Hannan of the UK say this is despicable taking land 278 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: by force, explain to me how else land is taken. 279 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: History is replete with exams of how the land is taken. 280 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: And it's taken by force. All right. 281 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 4: It could be natural disaster and people flee in area 282 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 4: and other people come into an area, but it's taken 283 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: by force. That's how it's done. This isn't surprising. The 284 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 4: question is do we want it? That goes back to 285 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 4: whether or not you think Russia is an expansionist power. 286 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: If you believe Tucker Karlson and others that Russia is 287 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 4: not an expansionist power, that these areas of Donetskin, Lahansk, 288 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: the Dunbus is ethically Russian. They align more with the Russians, 289 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: so they want to be Russian. You can you could 290 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 4: say that I would argue that anybody thinks that Russia 291 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 4: is not an expansionist power is out of their mind. 292 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: And if you think Russia stops here, that's crazy talk. 293 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: That is certifiable. Russia doesn't stop here, and Poland knows that. 294 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: And the people who who are not the pseudo intellectuals 295 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: of France and the uk know that. I mean, Kiris 296 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: Starmer talks about supporting Ukraine, but somewhere he thinks, somehow, 297 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 4: maybe the Russians that's it. I don't know, maybe he's 298 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: read a couple more books. 299 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: Than I realized. 300 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 4: He he's like, oh no, no, this is what the 301 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: Russians do. We have this a lot in this treat 302 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: not treaty agreements. That's the word with Ukraine regarding rare 303 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 4: earth and rare earth minerals. So we're gonna put investment there, 304 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna protect the investment. Isn't that the fact they're 305 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: puting troops on the ground again, not what I ask for, 306 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 4: just asking if you're going to have investment, you're gonna 307 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 4: protect the investment from Russian aggression. Well, you're just gonna 308 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: let him take over after you put in billions of dollars. 309 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 4: That's not that's not the way that works. That's that's 310 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: just not the way that works. 311 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 3: I don't from the moment. JD. 312 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: Van's challenged Lawimer Zelensky in the Oval office, and I 313 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 4: believe he lost that challenge. 314 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: I don't believe he has hit this story right. 315 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 4: He has hit this story authentically, and I don't think 316 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: he has done anything other than echo where the quote 317 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: unquote woke right is whatever that is. But I'm learning. 318 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 4: Do you believe Russia to be an expansionist power? If 319 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: you do, you want to stop Russia where they are? 320 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 3: Now? Do I believe U Crane's gonna have to give 321 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: up land? Yes? 322 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: I think that's the only read that is gonna happen. 323 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 4: They don't want to, Well, then you're gonna have to 324 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: fight this for yourself because this is happening. 325 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: Keep it here. It's Tony Kats today. So you got 326 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: a peace steal with the Armenians and Azerbaijan. 327 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 4: It's not gonna get talked about much, but it is something. Indeed, 328 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, good to be with you. 329 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: It was over the weekend, a US broker agreement at 330 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 4: the White House. There's Trump there, they are sh making hands, 331 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 4: doing the whole thing, the Armenian Prime Minister, the President 332 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: of Azerbaijan. 333 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: There are a lot of long. 334 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: Standing conflicts and long standing hatreds that so we're clear. 335 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: Unless you're studying. I mean, there are people who will go. 336 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: And they'll say, hey, I tell me about this thing, 337 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: and then they'll they'll come to you. 338 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: And be like, oh, here's a story, I know everything 339 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: about it. Oh, they're so full of crap. 340 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: They're so I don't care if it's radio and they 341 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 4: are so called influence or doesn't matter, it's garbage. 342 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: The you have a military. 343 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: Victory from Azerbaijan in twenty twenty three that moved Armenian 344 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 4: forces and ethnic Armenians from these areas. This is a 345 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 4: dispute over all land mass as many things are. So 346 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: part of the agreement is the the announcement of a 347 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: new transportation corridor. Now this is where it gets like 348 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 4: super fascinating. So first things first, I want to see 349 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: if I can find where this is on the map. 350 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 4: Always look to a map. First things. Versus Azerbaijan and Armeni. 351 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 4: I mean, if you don't know how these things kind 352 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: of relate to each other, allow me to share this 353 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: with you. So Azerbaijan, which is there on the coast 354 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: of the Caspian Sea. So you've got Iran to the south, 355 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: You've got Turkmenistan on the other side. 356 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: Kind of a forgotten part of the world. I think 357 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: for a lot of people. 358 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: They look at the Middle East, they look at Europe, 359 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 4: and then they jump on over to India, China and 360 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: this whole thing, like, hey, what about this. 361 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: There's a lot of land, a lot a lot, a 362 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: lot of land. 363 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: So here's Azerbaijan, and then to the west of that 364 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 4: is Armenia. Okay, land locked Armenia. That's what we're talking 365 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 4: about right here. So what part of this deal is 366 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 4: is it creates a transit corridor which talks about declining 367 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: Russian influence, right because if you look just to the 368 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: north of this, you'll find the country of Georgia, which remember, 369 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: if you engage just a little bit of history, this 370 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: is part of what the Russians tried to take. And 371 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 4: then right now, then you get to the Black Sea, 372 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: you'll see Crimea there, which was also taken during Barack 373 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 4: Obama's term in office, taken by the Russians. So the 374 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: Russians being depleted, having less ability to have a say 375 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 4: in this part of the world, there's an opportunity, that 376 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 4: opportunity being taken with the creation of what the Trump 377 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: Route for International Peace and Prosperity. 378 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 3: Oh my, the Trump Route. 379 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 4: For International Peace and Prosperity tripp trip. You take the trip, 380 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: I assume that's that's what it's for you understand that 381 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: this has been going on between these two areas for decades. 382 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: You understand that this stuff is very, very fraught. This 383 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 4: is lifetimes of hatred. I have no idea if it's 384 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: going to hold or not. Certainly one should appreciate the effort. 385 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: Effort matters, and hopefully it will hold. And certainly one 386 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: can argue that it gives the United States a bit 387 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: of influence in the area. And we should never ever 388 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 4: deny influence in an area. Oh, you can try and 389 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 4: tell me it doesn't matter. Oh it most it most 390 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: definitely matters. Then you have Mike Cukaby. Mike Huckaby is 391 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 4: a US ambassador to Israel, and Mike Huckaby is going 392 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: after CBS like it's his job. 393 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 3: And you say to me, wait a second, isn't. 394 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: That the one that Trump sued and like once like 395 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: two hundred billion dollars or something like that. Well, it 396 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 4: was them who did the deceptive editing of the Kamala 397 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 4: Harris video. They did what they did. They're guilty, They're 398 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 4: flat how guilty they did what they did. So Huckabee 399 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 4: is saying that CBS edited an interview on the subject 400 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: of Israel criticizing CBS this past Friday for selectively editing 401 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: a recent interview with him, conveying a different message than 402 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 4: the one he expressed in the full conversation. So what 403 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: he posts is ever, wonder how the media edits an 404 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: interview to give you a different story than the one 405 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 4: they had. Here's CBS News interview with me yesterday and 406 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: the unedited full transcript below. Take time and read you'll 407 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: see it. This is an interview that took place on 408 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 4: August seventh, and it's CBS aggressively trying to undercut Israel 409 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 4: and weekend and weaken Israel. 410 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: So in the broadcast, the reporter. 411 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: By the name of Deborah Patta ask Trump if he 412 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 4: is deeply troubled by the images of starving children. 413 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 3: Now we already know because. 414 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: German magazines have pointed this out in others, that so 415 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: many of these photos are staged, hamas lies about everything. 416 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 4: This is all propaganda campaign and ridiculously dopey liberals and 417 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: college students who don't have the sense to come out 418 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 4: of the rain. They're really dumb, and I advise against 419 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 4: hiring them. Check, double check, and recheck, especially social media accounts, 420 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 4: before you do. 421 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 3: These people will fall for anything. They'll fall for anything. 422 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 4: The Karen, the white liberal woman, my gosh, wants to 423 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: fall for it. Tell her that you're lying to her, 424 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: and she'll say, I don't care as long as I. 425 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: Can go scream at somebody on a street corner. 426 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 4: So they manipulate data, they manipulate these these images, they lie, 427 00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: they're fake. They're absolutely staged photos. The problem is when 428 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 4: there's a real one, it's harder to tell because they 429 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: lie about so much. So Hukkabi has asked the Ambassador's 430 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: asked whether he's deeply troubled by images of starving children 431 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 4: and how. Camy replies, I'm moved when the photos are verified. 432 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 4: The reporter follows by insisting these are real images, to 433 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 4: which Huckaby says, oh, I think that there are certainly 434 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 4: people suffering in Gaza. What Hukkabe said is, I'm moved 435 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 4: when the photos are verified. I mean, we're all moved 436 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: when you see someone, especially a child who's starving. But 437 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: The New York Times published a picture on the front 438 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: page of what was purported to be a starving child. 439 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: Turns out the child had a birth defect and had 440 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 4: not been starving. Continues there are other pictures, for example, 441 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: that were published of starving children in Gaza. Turns out 442 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 4: one of them was from Yemen, one was from twenty seventeen. 443 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 4: There was another photo that appeared to be somewhat staged 444 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 4: with a photographer all set up to get pictures of 445 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 4: a few people herded into a small area. That's when 446 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: the reporter said, what about you know, talking about you 447 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: know these are real images, and Huckabee articulates the reason 448 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 4: for the suffering, saying, part of the reason is is. 449 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 3: Because you've had palettes and trucks. 450 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 4: Full of food that the UN won't take in because 451 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: they say they don't want military escort from the IDF, 452 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 4: but they say it's not safe. And seven percent of 453 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: their own food every time they do take it in 454 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 4: gets hijacked and looted. That's their number. Those aren't mine. 455 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 4: I didn't make that up, says Ambassador Huckabee. That's what 456 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 4: they report, meaning the UN. So he continues, there's not 457 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: been a lack of food or even a lack of attempt. 458 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: It's been an inefficient way of getting in. It's been 459 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: a problem because you have a terror organization who's stealing it, 460 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: looting it and then turning around and selling it to 461 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: the people who are hungry. So here's what he said. 462 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: And then what did CBS say, But people are starving. 463 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 4: They didn't care about the answer. They don't give a 464 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: damn about the answer. You understand that this is material 465 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: support to a terrorist organization. That's what's happening. It's not 466 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: a debate, it's fact. It is support of a terrorist organization. 467 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: Did you hear Bernie Sanders, by the way, you want 468 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: to talk about support of a of a terrorist organization? 469 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: Nobody does it quite like Bernie Sanders. 470 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: No one comes close. 471 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: Where I've got the clip I know I do. Where 472 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: Bernie is asked about does he think that Gaza holds 473 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: any respect ou'sibility, any culpability. 474 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: For people starving? And He's like, no, what do you mean? Now? 475 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: How in the world, How in the world. 476 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,959 Speaker 4: Do you get to know what rational person? But Bernie 477 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: is not a rational guy. Bernie Sanders is everything you 478 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: ever thought he was. 479 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: Now. 480 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: There is such a thing as self hating jew don't 481 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 4: get me wrong, that exists, But this is this is 482 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: amazing and it's horror. 483 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 7: Would you say Hamas has some culpability and people starving? Well, 484 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 7: when they spend so much money building tunnels and everything under. 485 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 5: Right now, right now, what is going on is a slur, 486 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 5: all right, And right now Israel is you know, with 487 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 5: a few exceptions, is in control of the military situation. 488 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: It is not. 489 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 5: Hamas's Kamas is a terrible terrorist organization, all right, and 490 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: I certainly hope they have no future in a new 491 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 5: Godsil or Palestline. But the fault right now is one 492 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 5: hundred percent on a nette yahoo government who has waged 493 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 5: an all out war committed just I mean, it is 494 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 5: war crimes. 495 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: They are war crimes. 496 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: He's a disgusting human being and the people who follow 497 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 4: him are. 498 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: Desperate to be destroyed. 499 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: This is a flat out lie, a fraud from Bernie Sanders. 500 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: The facts are the facts, and he doesn't care. He 501 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: has never cared what communist actually cares. Everything he says 502 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: is a lie. He's never held a job, but his 503 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: wife has bankrupted colleges. How does he afford the fancy mittens? Well, 504 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 4: you know, it just happens. I guess everybody knows that 505 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 4: Hamas needs to Everyone who's a rational person knows that 506 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: Hamas needs to be destroyed, that this terrorist organization keeps 507 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 4: some people from being fed to the extent that they're 508 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 4: not being fed because there's a lot of pictures of the 509 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: people being just fine and hatred of NETANYAHUO might be 510 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: fine for you, but it. 511 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: Doesn't change reality. 512 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: That's Bernie Sanders giving support to hamas is what it is. 513 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 514 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 7: Whatever the hell they want as if police have been 515 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 7: not doing anything before this, Eddie, what do you make 516 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 7: of that? Whatever the hell they want, Chris. 517 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 8: To be honest with you, I'm trying to hold my temper. 518 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 8: I think there's an ongoing argument that he's having in 519 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 8: his head with Black Lives Matter. There's an ongoing argument 520 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 8: that he's having with the questions around criminal justice reform 521 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 8: and police reform. It's interesting that he really doesn't really 522 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 8: care about what's actually happening in DC on a certain 523 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 8: level because he's not trying to get it to underlying 524 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 8: root causes. He's not looking at examples that of how 525 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 8: to address horison crime rates that doesn't require a form 526 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 8: of policing that leads to increase incarceality and the like. 527 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 3: Let's look at what's going on in Baltimore. 528 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 8: Let's look at what's happening actually in places like Baltimore 529 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 8: in Chicago. Right, So part of what we have to 530 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 8: do is to understand and Oakland. We have to understand this, Chris, 531 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 8: within the context of Donald Trump's racial politics. 532 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 4: Oh, would you just shut up, Eddie Cloud MSNBC. Of course, 533 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 4: as I said, the left is going to lose their minds. 534 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 4: Trump federalizing the police force. We're already talking about this crime. 535 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 4: We're going to clean it up underlying root causes, you mean, 536 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 4: excusing behavior, because that's the way America is. 537 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: Going to take it. Eddie. 538 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 4: You don't have an argument here. You don't have a 539 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: mind here at play. Here's the story. The streets are unsafe. 540 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: Here comes some people who want to make it safe 541 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 4: by actually engaging the law. 542 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. That's the argument. 543 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: The argument is your progressive brethren, your ideological trifellow travelers 544 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 4: don't have safe cities. Now you could say, well, it's 545 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 4: me just saying that because I don't live in the city, 546 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 4: and who is this white guy to say something? 547 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 3: First of all, racist, settle yourself down. 548 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 4: As I have made clear many times, I'll say anything 549 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 4: you want about any subject I want. I don't get 550 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 4: told I can't talk because I'm white. I don't get 551 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: I can't talk about this because of my religion. Stop 552 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: talk about anything I want. There's nothing you can do 553 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: to stop me. And if you want to try, come heavy. 554 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 4: I said the words. I mean, it's just insane to 555 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 4: think that you could tell another human being that can't 556 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: have a thought. That is a bridge too far. But 557 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 4: Americans are going to say, could we stop the crime? 558 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 4: We see this in Chicago all the time, Black residents 559 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 4: of Chicago saying to the black mayor, Brendan Johnson, you're terrible. 560 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 4: We want to say for city. This isn't about root 561 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: cause anything. This is about saying we won't tolerate it. 562 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 4: And now let's see if that brings down the crime rate. 563 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 4: Your way hasn't worked. Let's try an actual implementation of 564 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 4: the law. 565 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today,