1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, good morning. I would just like to take 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: a few minutes, as the sheriff to express my gratitude 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: for everybody who has played a part in this investigation. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: So that's the sheriff there in orum Utah, Tony Katz, 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. I wanted 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: to bring you the press conference. It took place earlier, 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: but I wanted to bring you as much of it 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: as I could, and the Q and A and everything 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: else regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk and how they 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: were able to get this suspect into custody. Remember, they 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: had a person, a suspect of interest. They then released 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: that person. Then there was a man hunt this twenty 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: two year old admitting to his father that he did 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: at his father. I believe a former sheriff, sheriff's deputy 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: kept him there, informed authorities or informed others to inform authorities, 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: and that's when he was apra ended. We're gonna learn 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: a lot, and I want to bring the Q and 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: A to you for sure. There's gonna be questions about 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: whether or not this guy had any kind of history, 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: whether or not he was known to anybody to be 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: a threat to himself, a threat to others. There are 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: some people on my side, right our side of the aisle, 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: right side of the aisle. Maybe you're not with me 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: on the side of the aisle, but you listen to 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: the show because you love a good show, and I 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: appreciate it and thank you. Discussing on the FBI didn't 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: do a good job. The FBI didn't do this, The 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: FBI didn't do that, The FBI bungled this. I have 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: no idea if any of that is true. At this moment. 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: We are two days, not even since the assassination of 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, and someone's in custody because they were turned in. 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: How many times they turned in? I would assume there's 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: actually a fair amount of this that takes place that 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: is not somehow a kind of carte blanche to oh, 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: they didn't do the job. We don't know what job 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: was done or not done. We don't know yet what 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: kind of issues. Certainly there was a fair amount of 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: kind of like conflicting conversation, but that could have also 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: been purposeful to try and not give anybody a full 40 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: story so they could better out whoever did this. So 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: as this press goes on. I wanted to bring it 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: to you. This sheriff was just speaking and now Cash 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: Fattel FBI directors back to the podium, our mission, and 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: I just want to say special thanks. It's an honor 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: to be a part of the Department of Justice. Back 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: now to the Governor, Spencer Coppet, you again to our 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: incredible law enforcement team who has worked so hard. 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Shareff, I got a solid ninety minutes last night, so 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm probably the most well rested person up here. Ladies 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, I get the microphones, so I hope you 51 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: will permit me a moment just to share a few 52 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: more thoughts about where we are and how we got here, 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit of where we go from here. 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to get too preachy, but I think 55 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: it's important that we, with eyes wide open, understand what's 56 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: happening in our country today. I've heard I've heard people say, 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: why are we so invested in this? There's violence happening 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: all across our country, and violence is tragic everywhere, and 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: every life taken is a child of God who deserves 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: our love and respect and dignity. This is certainly about 61 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: the tragic death assassination political assassination of Charlie Kirk. But 62 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: it is also much bigger than an attack on an individual. 63 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: It is an attack on all of us. It is 64 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: an attack on the American experiment. It is an attack 65 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: on our ideals. This cuts to the very foundation of 66 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: who we are, of who we have been, and who 67 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: we could be in better times. Political violence is different 68 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: than any other type of violence for lots of different reasons. 69 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: One because in the very act that Charlie championed of expression, 70 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: that freedom of expression that is enthrined in our founding documents, 71 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: in having his life taken in that very act, makes 72 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: it more difficult for people to feel like they can 73 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: share their ideas, that they can speak freely. We will 74 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: never be able to solve all the other problems, including 75 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: the violence problems that people are worried about, if we 76 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: can't have a clash of ideas safely and securely, even 77 00:04:54,279 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: especially especially those ideas with which you disagree. Why this 78 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: matters so much? Over the last forty eight hours, I 79 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: have been as angry as I have ever been, as 80 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: sad as I have ever been, And it was as 81 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: anger pushed me to the brink. It was actually Charlie's 82 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: words that pulled me back. I'd like to share some 83 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: of those, and specifically right now, if I could. I 84 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: need to talk to the young people in our state, 85 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: in my state, and all across the country. As President 86 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: Trump reminded me, he said, you know who really loved 87 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Charlie the youths. And he's right. Young people love Charlie, 88 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: and young people hated Charlie. And Charlie went into those 89 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: places anyway. And these are the words that have helped me. 90 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: Charlie said, when people stop talking, that's when you get violence. 91 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: He said that week can never forgive. Forgiveness is the 92 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: attribute of the strong. The only way out of the 93 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: labyrinth of suffering is to forgive. Welcome without judgment, love 94 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: without condition, forgive without limit. He said, always forgive your enemies. 95 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: Nothing annoys them so much. A few months ago, I 96 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: referenced this. Last night, Charlie posted to social media. When 97 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: things are moving very fast and people are losing their minds, 98 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: it's important to stay grounded, turn off your phone, read scripture, 99 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: spend time with friends, and remember Internet fury is not 100 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: real life. It's going to be okay. He again said, 101 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: when you stop having a human connection with someone you 102 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: disagree with, it becomes a lot easier to commit violence. 103 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: He said. What we as a culture have to get 104 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: back to is being able to have a reasonable agreement, 105 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: being able to have reasonable agreement where violence is not 106 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: an option. Now again, to my young friends out there, 107 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: you are inheriting a country where politics feels like rage. 108 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: It feels like rage is the only option. But through 109 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: those words, we have a reminder that we can choose 110 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: a different path. Your generation has an opportunity to build 111 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: a culture that is very different than what we are 112 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: suffering through right now, not by pretending differences don't matter, 113 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: but by embracing our differences and having those hard conversations. 114 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: I think we need more moral clarity right now. I 115 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: hear all the time that words are violence. Words are 116 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: not violence. Violence is violence. And there is one person 117 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: responsible for what happened here, and that person is now 118 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: in custody and will be charged soon and will be 119 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: held accountable. And yet all of us have an opportunity 120 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: right now to do something different. I want to thank 121 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: my fellow Utah's you know this bad stuff happens. 122 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: And clearly very emotional Governor Spencer Cox there speaking about 123 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk words that Charlie Kirk has spoken before and 124 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: of the well something that we absolutely believe to be true. Right. 125 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: The violence is the violence. The violence is the violence. 126 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I believe that people can be 127 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: gend up to things. I believe people can be incited 128 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: to things. But in the end, people are responsible for 129 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: the actions they take. They're responsible for being incited. That 130 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: much must be remembered. I don't say that there aren't 131 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: things out there that are trying to lead people to 132 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: very very ugly ends. I have said this about MSNBC 133 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: and the New York Times and the others has called 134 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: for a lone wolf. That's constant conversation about Trump as 135 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: threat to democracy. I absolutely believe that's the case. But 136 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: it is these people who engage in shooting President Trump 137 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: and candidate Trump, and Butler killing, assassinating Charlie Kirk they 138 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: are to blame. But these other people don't get off 139 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: scot free. We have to remember what they're doing and 140 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: we have to counter it with more speech, with us 141 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: trying to persuade more people. The Q and A. I'll 142 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: try and bring that to you as much as I 143 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: can keep it here this is Tony Kats today,