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Speaker 1: We'll let you hear a little bit more from Shane

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Speaker 1: by the way, I believe tomorrow or Thursday will join

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Speaker 1: the show Scott before we get to the talk about

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Speaker 1: the fever and for that matter, of the news about

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Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle today. Your thoughts on Daniel Jones being named

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Speaker 1: the starter in Indianapolis over Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough call, Jake, just because of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I it just feels like Stiching with this decision,

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's fair. Injuries just keep getting in the way,

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Speaker 2: That's what it felt like. I think when Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 2: It's just it feels like the decision's got to be

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Speaker 2: everyone inside that locker room knows, and I think this

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Speaker 1: Okay, Scott, let's get to the fever here. Sophie Cunningham.

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Speaker 1: We know the injury MRI took place yesterday. My apologies

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Speaker 2: No, not just jet. I'm expecting an update to come

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say this, Scott, but the angle as well, right,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Scott Agnesfield House Files appreciated as always.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely thanks jam Scott Agnes joining us on the program.

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Speaker 3: True, But I'm not sure if that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 3: And I think this is just me saying this. I

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Speaker 1: How much of all do you think Steven I've always

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Speaker 3: I think even Jim understood though, that this guy was different.

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Speaker 1: I've got a feeling he's going to be You'll see

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Speaker 1: Do you believe Steve like minutes ago, right, I was

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Speaker 3: We got we got a go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Did Daniel Jones win the job or Anthony Richardson lost it?

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Speaker 3: can they you know, have this controlled environment where Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 3: you know, executes and call and runs all of Saint

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Speaker 3: Styken's cute plays, or do they find themselves with a

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Speaker 3: make a play to win them games and they find

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Speaker 3: out he can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Stephenholder ESPN dot com, you can read the work. You

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Speaker 1: will see him on ESPN television as well. A lot

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Speaker 1: I can tell you between down, certainly the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the season,