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Speaker 1: So let's break down this Hilton story, because the Hilton

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Speaker 1: Hotel group has done a remarkably good job of saying, guys,

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Speaker 1: this ain't us at all in any way. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to judge.

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Speaker 1: The story with the Hilton Hotel in Minneapolis goes as follows.

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Speaker 2: There is a franchisee of Hilton, and the franchisee of Hilton,

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Speaker 2: known as ever Peak Hospitality, has a Hampton In.

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Speaker 1: So the Hampton En brand is owned by Hilton, and

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Speaker 1: people are like, I want to get into the hotel business,

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Speaker 1: and I want it to be a Hilton brand. I

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Speaker 1: want to open a Hampton In and Hilton says great,

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Speaker 1: and you pay a franchise fee and they are doing

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Speaker 1: marketing and all sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: Right, So this hotel, this Hampton.

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Speaker 1: Inton Hotel, they had a reservation for ice agents, Immigration's

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Speaker 1: customs abortment. This was happening in Minnesota, Minneapolis area. Next

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Speaker 1: thing you know, they get letters. The letters that they

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Speaker 1: get state sorry, you're not welcome. Now, that's a bit

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Speaker 1: of a paraphrase the letters that they get state, Listen,

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Speaker 1: we learned that you are from Apartment of Homeland Security

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Speaker 1: and possibly Immigrations Customs Enforcement. We don't support these kinds

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Speaker 1: of activities in our hotel, so we're canceling your reservations.

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Speaker 2: Well, the word goes out that Hilton has just thrown

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Speaker 2: out Ice agents. Hilton jumps in immediately saying whoa wo whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 2: We didn't throw nobody out.

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Speaker 1: This is a franchise e, this ever Peak Right, or

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Speaker 1: they called ever Peak Hospitality. We did not throw anybody else,

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Speaker 1: throw anybody out. We are not throwing anybody out that

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Speaker 1: goes against our values. We are reaching out to the

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Speaker 1: franchise e. Everybody chill.

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Speaker 2: The franchise z then puts out a statement that they.

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Speaker 1: Have looked into this, and they said ever Peak Hospitality

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Speaker 1: has moved swiftly to address this matter as it was

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Speaker 1: inconsistent with our policy see it being a welcoming place

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Speaker 1: for all. We are in touch with the impacted guests

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Speaker 1: to ensure they are accommodated. We do not discriminate against

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Speaker 1: any individuals or agencies and apologize to those impacted.

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Speaker 2: So was it? How was it Hilton? Was it ever Peak?

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Speaker 2: Now it was clearly ever Peak and.

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Speaker 1: Not Hilton, and ever Peaka said, guys, we someone made

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Speaker 1: a mistake and we we we've reached out, we fixed it. However,

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Speaker 1: what we are learning from further investigation, which I believe

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Speaker 1: took place by Nick Soder.

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Speaker 2: So O t O R. This is that his last

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Speaker 2: name s O t O R or is it so

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Speaker 2: O n t R okay sorts or so O R

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Speaker 2: t R. That's it.

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Speaker 1: He heads over to the hotel to this Hampton End

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Speaker 1: run by ever Peak, and he says, so, what's your uh,

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Speaker 1: what's your policy here regarding ice?

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Speaker 2: What's your policy here?

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Speaker 1: And they basically give him an answer of oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't let those people stay here. Nick shows that

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Speaker 1: the hotel speaking to him directly on his camera, they

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Speaker 1: are still doing this.

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Speaker 2: That video goes live. Hilton loses their mind and Hilton

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Speaker 2: then states that this is completely and totally unacceptable and

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Speaker 2: we are ending the relationship with ever Peep.

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Speaker 1: They terminated the franchise agreement the hotel. Seemingly, according to

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Speaker 1: Sean Davis, the Federalist no longer listed on or acceptable

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Speaker 1: or accessible via Hilton's website.

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Speaker 2: It's no longer possible to make reservations for it through

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Speaker 2: Hilton's website.

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Speaker 1: Holy cow, this is a masterclass in crisis management.

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Speaker 2: What is amazing here is the idea that.

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Speaker 1: The people that ever peak, did they say they reached

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Speaker 1: corporate level, but never once spoke to the people who

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Speaker 1: and give these people their dang reservations.

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Speaker 2: How could how could the the company ever peak.

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Speaker 1: Not be proactive in this just assume that it got done,

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Speaker 1: and then it doesn't get done, and Hilton says, we

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Speaker 1: don't need this headache.

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Speaker 2: Ba Felicia. Now, don't be surprised if three months from

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Speaker 2: now there are.

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Speaker 1: They're they're this hotel is back, like, don't be surprised

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Speaker 1: by that. Don't be surprised by that.

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Speaker 2: In the slightest. Now in my chat room, I have

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Speaker 2: a a troll who says that this is good because

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Speaker 2: it's private property.

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Speaker 1: Then again, this is somebody who thinks that Trump stile

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Speaker 1: Let's go down the road of its private property. And

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Speaker 1: therefore Hilton and or ever Peak could decide who it

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Speaker 1: who they're not. The question is, what if they were black?

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Speaker 1: I'll wait, what if they were black? And what if

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Speaker 1: ever Peak said we don't allow those kinds of people here.

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Speaker 1: What if they were Jews Zionists? What if they were

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of all the things. In order

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Speaker 2: to engage in clarity, it should be.

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Speaker 1: Known that I oppose the concept of the public accommodation.

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Speaker 1: The idea that every business must welcome every person I

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Speaker 1: think goes against the very concepts of liberty.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the.

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Speaker 1: Trolls response, none of those are government agents?

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Speaker 2: Interesting? Interesting, interesting, interesting?

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Speaker 1: So what if they were to show up they happen

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Speaker 1: not working in capacity, they're just getting a hotel room.

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Speaker 1: Your argument falls apart because you're saying that people can't

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Speaker 1: two days later it is learned that they work for

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Speaker 1: the government. And are you arguing that all government employees

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Speaker 2: You oppose the work.

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Speaker 1: That that organization is doing, that agency is doing. What

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Speaker 2: And as I stated, I oppose the public accommodation. I

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Speaker 1: Business should be allowed to say no to anyone at

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Speaker 2: No restaurant has to have me as a patron. None.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to have somebody who's.

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Speaker 1: should be allowed because in a liberty society, that's what

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Speaker 1: you should absolutely want. But I live in a society

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Speaker 2: That's what they said. People in the.

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Speaker 1: Chat room, they have the right to refuse service to anyone.

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Speaker 2: Masterpiece Cake Shop didn't. They were told that they were bigots,

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Speaker 2: they were told they had to do it, and Colorado

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Speaker 1: If you want to engage, by the way, yes, comparing

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Speaker 1: Forcing a public accommodation. Oh pick one, kitten. I favor

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Speaker 2: The country doesn't. The country says you have to serve

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Speaker 1: And there is no exception for private property providing a

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Speaker 1: doesn't exist. The fact that I think it should doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: But let's take it away from all of it.

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Speaker 2: I think this was a good business decision.

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Speaker 1: You really think it was a good business decision, because

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Speaker 1: Hilton didn't. Hilton did not think it was a good

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Speaker 1: business decision. Hilton thought it was an insane business decision.

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Speaker 1: And here we are now with Hilton backing away from

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Speaker 1: this try and doing as I said, I think a

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Speaker 1: masterclass in the crisis pr handling things quickly, effectively, showing

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Speaker 1: absolute decisiveness, protecting their brand, protecting their stock price, etc.

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Speaker 2: But man, if the left now wants to argue that

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Speaker 2: it's okay.

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Speaker 1: To tell people they're not welcome based on where they work, Okay, Okay, this.

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Speaker 2: Is about to get really weird. This is about to

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Speaker 1: Because if private property owners can decide that they don't

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Speaker 1: serve government.

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Speaker 2: Agents, private property owners can decide they don't serve people

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Speaker 2: who work for certain.

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Speaker 1: Organizations like Planned Parenthood, why not why all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden do their rights disappear? No, give them their full

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Speaker 2: That's my take. Say no to anybody you want to

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Speaker 2: say no to. If we're down with that, I'm good

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Speaker 2: as forever peak.

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Speaker 1: Man talk about a bungled situation, a madness situation. Is

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Speaker 1: this going to affect Hilton? I assume in little bits,

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Speaker 1: but not in a major way. I think Hilton has

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Speaker 1: handled it well, and I don't think people are gonna

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Speaker 1: be canceling reservations en mass anytime soon. I'm Tony Katz

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Speaker 1: and this is Tony Kats today,