1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: So as we predicted, Gavin Newsom has said, don't get 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: mad good even it's Kenn Only Casey Show and Rob 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Casey's out today our old pal Indy Spanglish. Jerry Lopez 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: in for Casey, and Gavin Newsom has now declared California 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: we'll have its own well he calls it Liberation Day. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: He's just trolling Donald Trump at this point, Jerry, and 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: he has said we are now going to redistrict California 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: in full force in light of Texas moving forward with 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: their proposed redistricting plan. And this is what I said 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: from the beginning. It's gonna be tit for tat. This 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: is gonna go all across the country and we're going 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: up like what with what one or two seats either way? 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is going to be just 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: a nightmare for this country. 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: I think what we're learning here within least within this 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: Trump presidency is we're kind of setting a dangerous president 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: where we're figuring out what a president really can do 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: if he wants to, if a state can come by 19 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: and redraw the lines and once once, once one, you know, 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: Donal Trump's gonna do it. If we had a Democrat President, 21 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: he starts to turn around. Okay, I'm gonna do tariffs. 22 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. New states 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 2: come out, We're gonna draw lines away from the ten 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: year the ten yere thing that we've done. Typically so 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: very dangerous President going forward. 26 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I've heard the argue for the people that, hey, 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: California has so many illegal immigrants that got counted in 28 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: the census, You've got to do this to offset that. 29 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: And Okay, I understand that, but there's no there's no 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: logical way this is gonna end other than what we're 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: doing right now. Okay, Texas figures out how to get five, California, 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: you'll figure out how to get six. Okay, Ohio gets three, 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: New York's gonna get four. I mean, this is this 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: is it's gonna be this tit for tat thing, and 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna through all this cost and all this distraction 36 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: and divide this country and you're gonna end up with 37 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: what one or two seats maybe either way, and you 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: don't even know because there is an election. It just 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: seems like a lot of drama and a lot of 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: needless fighting. When we've we've had an agreement on how 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: we do things in this country for a very long time, 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: and I guess it's all bets are off. 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: Now, doesn't the current law say, essentially, you're supposed to 44 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: count the illegals? This is and so this is what like, 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be one for one. It's not voters, 46 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: it's just how many people live there. Right, that's correct, 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 2: and so is the this is what. 48 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: See. 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: It's a hard conversation to have with the Trump supporter 50 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: because they're not supposed to be here. Well they're not, 51 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: and it's ridiculous. But the court said you count them, 52 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: So unless Trump feels I mean, the court is slightly 53 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: different than it was the last time, because I think 54 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: this thing got adjudicated in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Right, they. 55 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: Said that you couldn't take the congressional districts to the 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: feds anymore. 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: Okay, But then I say, okay, well Trump was president 58 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: for three years before that census, of almost four years 59 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 1: before the census would have been conducted. So if there's 60 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: a problem with the legal immigrants being in the country 61 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: that were getting counted, didn't that ultimately rest on Trump 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: because he was the president of the United Stay. 63 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: I don't think people had the immigration issue really on 64 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: hand till Biden open the floodgates. 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: I agree. I'm just like you just when you know, 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: it's like you can see you were you're stuck in 67 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: traffic and you see an accident about to happen, like 68 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: you can just see the two people don't see each 69 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: other and then smack and they hit. This is what 70 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: I feel like we're doing here. We've been saying for 71 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: basically a month now. This is how what's going to end. 72 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: California is not just gonna sit there with all the 73 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: control that they can potentially have and allow Texas just 74 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: to swipe five congressionals sets art. 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: Why were they here in Indiana talking about redrawing urs 76 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: We have super majority, we don't need to change anything. 77 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Well, we'll get to that with Nikki Kelly coming up 78 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: in UH at nine thirty. Made no sense to even 79 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: come here to talk to us. JD Well because they're wunning, 80 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: because they know they know this is your right, they 81 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: know this is gonna happen, and they know it's gonna 82 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: come down to one or two seats either way. 83 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: They're just trying to convince states to do it. Absolutely 84 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: it's not Indiana specific, it's everybody. 85 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: Let's jump in the problem in a state like Indiana, 86 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: Texas can hide behind the argument of well, we've had 87 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: five million people move in, sure, because everybody has fled 88 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: these blue states. Okay, still don't agree with it, but okay, 89 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: Indiana has no argument because, like Nikki Kelly, and we'll 90 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: get into this with her coming up at nine thirty, 91 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: in the area that they're looking at redrawing, which is 92 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: the first congressional district, that's the main one, which is 93 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: the region that's seen one percent population growth. That's it. 94 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: It's nothing rights, it's thousands of people. You don't have 95 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: that argument. And so I think that's why you're starting 96 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: to see more and more of these state reps and 97 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: senators on the Republicans I come out against this because 98 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: you can't hide behind anything. There's no logical excuse. It 99 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: is purely political gamesmanship. And you've already been able to 100 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: game the system based on how they moved the districts 101 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, like helping Victoria Sparts. They 102 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: made her district. 103 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: And Andre gave Andre Carson some to make sure that 104 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: Victoria was good. 105 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right. So I just think that's why 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: you're starting to see more and more of these Republican representatives. 107 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: They're saying, what do we get out of this? We 108 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: don't live in the first congressional district, right, Why would 109 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: I potentially alienate or piss off people who otherwise I 110 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: got a safe seat. Why would I give an election issue, 111 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: especially in these you know these now suburban Donut County 112 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: District Andi Lopez guys like that, right, Why would I 113 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: give them an issue when all I got to do 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: is just show up and keep my head down and 115 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: I ain't going to get in no trouble. 116 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: So I would say the first way to fix this 117 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: is not the redrawing maps. You got to go back 118 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: to the Scotus and say, look, we're not going to 119 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: count illegals on the census, and then just do a census. 120 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: Yes, because you do. 121 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: Have because you're going to take away from those states 122 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: like California and New York and that have all, you know, 123 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: a lot bigger immigration issue. 124 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: You do have a different Supreme Corps. You have any 125 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Amy Coney Barrett now instead of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I 126 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: think that's the only change. Because Kavanaugh had already been 127 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: confirmed and what's his face? Gorsch had been confirmed the Democrat. 128 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: There's been one Democrat appointee come and go. So that's 129 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: a wash. So you're right. I mean it is utterly ridiculous. 130 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: The idea that we judge congressional representation based on the 131 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants who have broken the law to get into 132 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: this country. I mean that that is that is utterly ridiculous. 133 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's I want to want to play this. 134 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: So this is a day or two old now, but 135 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: it's just perfect. So Beto O'Rourke, what's that? So he 136 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: ran U Most people know who he is, but he's 137 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: run for everything in Texas. He has run for what 138 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: He was a congressman, he ran for Senate, lost, he 139 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: ran for the presidency Texas. Well, that's right, Desty Wells 140 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: is in the anabato. That's why we call it. He 141 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: just runs for everything and keeps losing. But he was 142 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: at some event and he was he was he said 143 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: the quiet part out loud that that basically he wants 144 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: these blue states to do what Texas is doing, but 145 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: do it on steroids and take more seats than the Republicans. 146 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: Go. 147 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: I also don't want Gavin Newsome, JB. 148 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: Pritzker and Kathy Hokeel and any other Democrat who has 149 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: unitary power in their state to wait for Texas to 150 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: go first. I want us to seize the initiative instead 151 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 3: of awaiting the punch throne by these would be fascists 152 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: to hit us in the face and then respond. I 153 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: want us to punch first, and I want us to 154 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 3: punch harder. 155 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: So I want them to redraw those districts right now, 156 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: right now, Okay, so right, I mean, there's no doubt 157 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: exactly what's going on, and this is where we're at 158 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: in our society. Jerry's really a commentary on our society 159 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: because here in Indiana there's been no attempt to even 160 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: lie to people and go, well, we're doing this because 161 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: we screwed something up. No, totally totally partisan, he's saying 162 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: it there on the Democrat side, our elections are joke 163 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: that white people don't vote, So why they don't participate, 164 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: It's why they don't get involved. It's one of many reasons. 165 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: But they don't see any point because there we're just 166 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: admitting it all now out loud. It's all rigged. All 167 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: of this is absolutely one hundred percent rigged on both 168 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: sides of the aisle. 169 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: Well, and how many times you talk about this swinging pendulum? Right, 170 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: you get Obama, you get Trump, you get bid, and 171 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: you're back to Trump. And that's all we're setting up now, 172 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: is okay a Democrat takes over. We're gonna redraw the 173 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: maps again. 174 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. I did want to play this because well, 175 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: we've made Kevin go to all this effort to bleep this. 176 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: Then Beto goes on, Kevin, are you are you sure 177 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: that this has been bleeped properly? Yeah, it's bleached. Okay, 178 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: very good. Everyone give Kevin a big round of applause 179 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: for this, because Beto then goes on some bizarro rant 180 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: about basketball that we just it's so stupid, we just 181 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: had to play it. 182 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: We are in a basketball game right now, if you'll 183 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: excuse the metaphor, where the refs have left the arena 184 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: and the other side is just clobbering the shit. 185 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: Out of it. 186 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: It's punching us in the face, kicking us in the nuts, 187 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: and we're kind of throwing our hands up and we're 188 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: asking the crowd, the people of America, hey, do you 189 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: see what's going on? 190 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: Here. 191 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: This is unfair, This isn't the rules that we agreed 192 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: to play by. 193 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Well, who cares. 194 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: About the rules right now, punch back, kick back, dunk 195 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: over their heads and win some power. 196 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: Hey, it's it's super classy when you go in front 197 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: of a large audience as a speaker of some sort 198 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: and you're just dropping f bombs left and right. That nothing. 199 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy doesn't even have a jacket on. 200 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: He's you know, and he has got nothing to lose. Well, 201 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: how about a little professionalism. That's you've spoken in public before, Jerry, 202 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: were you dropping the F bo? I'm surprised and I 203 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: was in the service. That's an adjective verb ad verb. 204 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: It's I've never that's my point. If you can do it, yeah, 205 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: there's no ready can do it. 206 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: But this is where we're at and it's gonna You 207 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: know what stuff like that does is then it pushes 208 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: potentially people who are on the fence here in Indiana 209 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: saying well I want to do the right thing. Yeah, 210 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: but then the Trump Trump will come back and go 211 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: we'll see they're doing. But did you see the Indiana 212 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: Democrats going to Illinois, which has one of the worst 213 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: congressional maps in the in the state, or in the country. 214 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Here's the most depressing part about this. In case you 215 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: and I got into this yesterday, I don't have a 216 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: dog in this fight because everybody screws me both sides. 217 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: We've had a Republican rule again, all three all the House, 218 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: the Senate, the Presidency. What do we get. We got 219 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: four trillion, four and a half trillion added to the 220 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: dead on top of the trillion plus any I'm like, 221 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: it's just it. Never it doesn't change my life one 222 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: way or another. So I'm watching both of these two 223 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: totally corrupt, totally underhanded political parties just try to out 224 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: screw each other, and it's like, this is our this 225 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: is our country now, all right? Jerry Lopez in for 226 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: Casey when we come back. This may be the most 227 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: unbelievable story I've ever heard. We don't do a lot 228 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: of sports on this show, but this story about how Petty, 229 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: the owner of the New York Knicks is is absolutely unbelievable. 230 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: There's a huge expose on this that took place yesterday 231 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: at ESPN. Over at ESPN, and we got to tell 232 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: you all about It's Kennel Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 233 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: This story about how Petty the owner of the New 234 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: New York Knicks is simply unbelievable. We got to talk 235 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: about It's Ketel Casey Show'm Rob Casey's out today. Jerry 236 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: Lopez in for Casey. keV is here. So ESPN has 237 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: a big expose up right now about James Dolan and 238 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: he is the owner of the New York Knicks, and 239 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: he also owns, I believe Madison Square Garden, that's a 240 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: big part of it, but he also owns apparently multiple 241 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: other properties in the Greater New York area. I mean, 242 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: the guy's a gajillionaire. And this article talks about all 243 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: the people that are banned from properties that he owns, 244 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: not just Madison Square Garden, getting into the Knicks games 245 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: with these other properties, and how the extent they go 246 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: to to enforce it of having facial recognition at these 247 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: properties so that they can it'll trigger some sort of warning. 248 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: They load these people's faces into this database and if 249 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: they catch you coming in, they will six security on 250 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: you and they will remove you from the property. Now, 251 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: the kicker is it is primarily targeted at people who 252 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: work at law firms that are engaged in legal entanglements 253 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: with Dolan. The key is though it's not lawyers. It 254 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: is lawyers, but it's not just lawyers who are involved 255 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: in entanglements with Dolan. It's people who work at law 256 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: the it guy at the law firm. So like, there's 257 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: this national law firm, and you know they're in all 258 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: fifty states, and if they have uploaded your image, if 259 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: you work at that law firm, and because they're involved 260 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: in lawsuits with Dolan, you're out. Not that you're on 261 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the case, not that you even know about the case, 262 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: not that you have anything to do with the case, 263 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: if you even work at that law firm. This guy 264 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: is so petty, Jerry. He will keep you from coming 265 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: in to watch the New York Knicks in Madison Square 266 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: gard Yeah, let me take. 267 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: It a step further, since he owns Madison Square Garden. 268 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: It's not just the Knicks, it's your favorite artist that's 269 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: performing there. It's when Celine Dion comes in town and 270 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: you want you want to go with your mom, but 271 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: you can't go because you're banned. Right, he said, Any 272 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: tickets to mark msg venues they previously acquired or acquired 273 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: in the future are hereby revoked and deemed revoked, void 274 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: and invalid. 275 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this article, I mean, it is crazy and 276 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: now now legal. What's interesting to me is legally, especially 277 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: in a liberal state like New York, this has been upheld. 278 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: And the argument that I guess they won on is 279 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: these lawyers could encounter MSG or these other venues the 280 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: employees and say something that can harm my case, and 281 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: thus they've been able to win on the court on 282 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: that merit, which is crazy to me. However, what's interesting is, 283 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: and you just touched on it, there are multiple stories 284 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: in this in this thing about people who have bought 285 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: third party tickets, like you didn't get them from so 286 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: you paid exorbitant prices from a they're not called scalpers anymore, 287 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: but what you know, app, yeah, app or whatever, and 288 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: they're in line. One guy was parents and they said 289 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: the parents can go in, you're out, you're out. The 290 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: pettiness of that. 291 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: It was like a concert. And so the Knicks have 292 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 5: really only been good. 293 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: For about three or four years recently since I got 294 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: Jayleen Brodson and whatever. But for those seven to ten 295 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: years before that, post the Reggie Miller era, they kind 296 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: of just sucked. 297 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were the kind of the Detroit lives 298 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: of people show bags on their heads and tell them 299 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: to sell the team. And he was walking around banning 300 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: fans calling him to sell the team. Well, this one 301 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: one of these guys in this article, I think he 302 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: was a radio host or something. He had shirts made 303 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: that said fire Dolan, and people were wearing them with 304 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: the games. 305 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: And then he tried to go to the game they banned. 306 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: He banned Charles Oakley. That's a New York Knicks legend, 307 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: that's right. 308 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: So again it's I guess legally been upheld in the 309 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: courts that he can do this, but nobody knows exactly 310 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: who's on this. Here's how crazy. The one guy they 311 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: interview who was an attorney for one of these law firms, 312 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: they got his name wrong in the database and his 313 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: face was upliatable. So I guess on these law firms 314 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: a lot of times they'll have pictures of the people. Yeah, 315 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: of course, and that's how they're getting this data, meeting 316 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: our staff. Yeah, they're going the New York Knicks. So 317 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: WBC sold us go to host. 318 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: Rob you're out, Casey, you're out, Hammer, you're out, Nigel, you're. 319 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: Out right they're going to these websites. They're literally taking 320 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: these photos. They're loading them with the names up into 321 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: this database. So one of the one of the problems 322 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: is if you work at this law firm and there's 323 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: no photo of you, if they don't do photo databases 324 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: or or photo section or whatever, Facebook you yeah, I 325 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know you did. But one guy, 326 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: this is the best party. They had his photo because 327 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: he works at this law firm, but they transcribed his 328 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: name wrong. So they stopped him. They were like, are 329 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: you so, and so he's like, no, I'm not sew. 330 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: And so they had his photo which matched his drivers, 331 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: but because the name was wrong, they were like, Okay, 332 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: I guess we made a mistake. Go on and watch 333 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the game. This guy looks just like you. Brother. 334 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: This is the most insane story I've ever heard. And 335 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I go back and forth because on one hand, you 336 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: look at that and go, you're beyond ridiculus. But it's 337 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: so ridiculous that I actually admire the level to which 338 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: you will go to to spite people. He's invested in 339 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: this petty and I'm here for it. It's so strong, 340 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: all right, Jerry's in for Casey. When we come back, 341 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Nicki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle join us. We 342 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: will talk all about the latest with redistricting. These Republicans 343 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: here in Indiana in the House and Senate coming out 344 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: against it, and so much more. Kennel and Casey show. 345 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: Nainety three WIBC man at the top says, it's only 346 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: up there is the big So there are wallbaggers left 347 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: and right, and see it's coming out against the plan 348 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: to redistrict congressional districts in the state of Indiana. What's 349 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: exactly going on. Let's get to one of the best. 350 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: It's Kennell and Casey Show. I'm Rob Jerry Lopez in 351 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: for Casey today. Nicki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle 352 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: joins us now in the WIBC hotline. Nikki Kelly, Hello, 353 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: good morning. All right, So let's start with what everybody's 354 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: kind of talking about right now, which is this effort 355 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: to get some sort of consensus on if there will 356 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: be a special session on redistricting. You, amongst others, had 357 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: reported there's starting to be some leaks in the ships, 358 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: so to speak, some Republican lawmakers coming out against the 359 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: idea of redistricting. What do we know? 360 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean every day we're getting a few more 361 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 4: here and there. I actually had to make a Google 362 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: doc to start tracking the four and against and who's 363 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 4: leaning where. But yeah, a number of Republicans are coming 364 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 4: up very strongly. The latest with Senator Spencer Deary who 365 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 4: basically said, you know, no, this is not what we're about, 366 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: and you know, blame it on the fact that Democrats 367 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 4: Gerrymander and other states is in a relevant excuse I 368 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 4: think was his phrasing. And so we're seeing more and 369 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 4: more of those people who are like, no, they're trying 370 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: to I think cut it off at its the ease. 371 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: Do you get a sense of what the numbers would 372 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: have to be for Braun to do this? If he 373 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: thinks he has the fifty plus one or or you know, 374 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: the twenty five in the Senate, assuming that Lieutenant Governor 375 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: could would break the tie, would he go with that 376 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: or does he want a strong consensus before calling a 377 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: special session? 378 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think he would need a strong 379 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 4: consensus before he would call it. He doesn't want to. 380 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: He would need the lawmaker, the legislative leaders, Senator Bray 381 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: and represent Houston to come to him and say, Yep, 382 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: we've got it easy because he's not going to call 383 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 4: a session and then be embarrassed when he doesn't, you know, 384 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: get what he wants. 385 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: Nicki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle joins us, we're 386 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: talking about redistricting and where we may be with that. 387 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: We're talking with them duel yesterday, and he kind of 388 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: agreed with this. It doesn't seem like there's a lot 389 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: of enthusiasm. The body language certainly didn't appear to be 390 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: enthusiastic from Rod Bryan Todd Houston, the Speaker of the 391 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: House and the protim of the Senate. After that meeting 392 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: with Jade Vans, have you gotten any feel from them 393 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: on where they are. 394 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 4: No, they are like down in a bumper, fighting away. 395 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: I mean, and I know they're probably having a lot 396 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: of behind the scenes conversations with their members. I know 397 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: that Speaker Houston, they had a zoom meeting with the 398 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: caucus the night of the JD Vance meeting, and he 399 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: did he was not very committal. It was very short, 400 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: and he did say he did promise one in person 401 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: caucus before any decisions were made. But in the meantime, 402 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the reporters are doing what they do, 403 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: which is starting to call each person and ask how 404 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 4: they feel, and even individually lawmakers are putting their own 405 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 4: statements out, and so I mean, I feel like it's 406 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: either going to happen quickly or not. 407 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, bron Well, I was gonna say because Braun came 408 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: out the other day and you guys had a big 409 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: story on this, and it was a very weird statement 410 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: about like we'll see what happens with Texas, and a 411 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: lot of people are taking aback by that, like Texas 412 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: and Texas where Indiana? What difference does it make what 413 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: happens with Texas. This all fields, of course it is, 414 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: but unlike times they'll usually give you an excuse, this 415 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: just seems like they're pretty much like, yeah, this is 416 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: totally political. 417 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. He actually brought up Texas twice with us when 418 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 4: our reporters talked to him. And I think that the 419 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 4: basis is like, look, we're not jumping ahead and putting 420 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 4: our you know, basically you know, throwing ourselves on the 421 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: grenade first, because unless we get the five seats from Texas, 422 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 4: the others built up together don't really do a whole lot, 423 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: and so he was basically saying, you know, we need 424 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: to see what happens there before we put ourselves on 425 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 4: the line. 426 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: One of the things ab Duel was talking about yesterday 427 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: and I thought this was interesting and you can expand 428 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: on this if you want, is there is some concern 429 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: that if you do this, you're going to energize people 430 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: who otherwise might not even vote. They certainly wouldn't be involved. 431 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: They're going to see this, as you know, for what 432 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: it is. It's a total partisan play. Is that sort 433 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: of the leadership's concern. Is it like, look, okay, we 434 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: get one congressional district that doesn't really help us because 435 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: we're not in the US Congress. Like for them, they 436 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: got to know this heavy lifting and they don't get 437 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: much of a reward out of it. But there's potential 438 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: big pitfalls. 439 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I think there's two different ways that 440 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: could backfire. One bye by even if you draw the map, 441 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 4: and there are maps floating around there that are far 442 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: readily nine to zero Republican, but if you dilute the others, 443 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 4: you're going to end up spending far more money right 444 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: to protect those seats than you would if you just 445 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 4: stuck with the seven to two or even an eight 446 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 4: to one, And if all of the districts are more competitive, 447 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: you're also going to change the type of candidate you're 448 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: going to get. You're going to get a more centrist candidate, 449 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: and I'm not sure some Republicans want that. And then 450 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 4: the second issue is the overall backlash from yeah, just 451 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: energizing a base against you, giving them a real solid, 452 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: easy to understand issue to come after you. 453 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: On Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle is our 454 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: guest real quick before before we move off of this, 455 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: if you had to guess right now, you're a tea 456 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: leave reader, You've been around there a long time. Do 457 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: you think this will go forward? 458 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: Gosh, I would say, right after the JD vance hearing 459 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: a meeting, I thought, oh wow, this this could really happen. 460 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 4: But now I feel like and I realized it's only 461 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: been like a week, but a lot happened in Indiana week, 462 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 4: as they say, And so now I feel like the 463 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 4: momentum is going the other way, especially as we see 464 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: more lawmakers come out expressing, you know, absolute opposition to it. 465 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: All Right, Okay, I need your you need your long 466 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: time understanding of Indiana politics and government for this next one, 467 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: because you guys had a big story yesterday about how 468 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: reading scores are up, and I told Casey, I said, 469 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: there's too many of these tests, and I feel like, well, 470 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: you're conflicting results based on what the test is. Can 471 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: you tell us what came out yesterday? And are you 472 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: with me? It seems like there's two we get too 473 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: many of these. I need. I need one story throughout 474 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: the course here to tell me how we're doing with 475 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: this stuff. 476 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 4: There really are only two tests, rob there, I learn, 477 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: And the problem is it came out a couple of 478 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: weeks ago, so these came out kind of close together, 479 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: and so I think that's what's happening. I learn is 480 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 4: the overall test Math, Science, English, you know all the 481 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: grades and how kids are doing overall. And then there's 482 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 4: I Read, which is just third graders, although now second 483 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: graders can take it early, but it's just supposed to 484 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: be flat. Can you read? And if not, a couple 485 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: of years ago, lawmakers basically put the hammer down and said, 486 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: if not, we're not going to let you move onto 487 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: fourth grade, Like too many kids are moving on to 488 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: fourth grade without basic Reading proficiency. So those they're really 489 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: the only two tests the state does. 490 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: So I just imagine that it just seems like there's 491 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: always stories coming out about how people did. But you're 492 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: saying in my mind, because they're so close together, that's 493 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: why it's overloading my brain. 494 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: I think, so very good. 495 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: All right, So can you so the reading, the just 496 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: the reading for just third graders is positive? 497 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 4: Yes, And that's because lawmakers through the kitchen sink at it. 498 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: You know, they our numbers were absolutely dismal. We had, 499 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: you know, just so many kids not passing. So they 500 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: did a couple things. They introduced something called science of Reading, 501 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 4: which is a different teaching technique for reading. They put 502 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: a lot of money into remediation for reading. We also 503 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 4: got a Lily grant that helped with that and buying 504 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 4: law and you know, look, we put a lot of 505 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 4: focus and emphasis and money on it, and boom, we 506 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: saw huge, you know, a huge improvement in one year. 507 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: So let's go back to the other test, that is 508 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: for all the kids correct the I learn correct and 509 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: and can you compare the results with that, like, were 510 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: they as positive? Was there the sort of growth in 511 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: those that we saw in just reading. 512 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I learned, I learned and I learned is 513 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: so segmented. It's like each grade. You know, you might 514 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: have seen improvement in math and eighth graders, but not 515 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 4: in you know, tenth grade science or you know, it's 516 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: there's so many different parts that I learned that it's 517 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 4: hard to just have a collective you know, here's how 518 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: they did because of so many different grades. I learn 519 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 4: has been very incrementally improving for the last couple of years. 520 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 4: Not quite status quo, but incremental. 521 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: That's interesting. So, you know, it's sort of this thing like, hey, 522 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: if you just focus on one thing, which clearly they've 523 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: done an immense focus on young kids being able to 524 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: read better and putting emphasis on the public education system 525 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: making sure that they can. You can get some tangible results. 526 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: But you can't throw money at everything all the time. 527 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 4: Well true, Yeah, I mean, obviously there's obviously a lot 528 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: of money in our educational system. But you know, in 529 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 4: at least reading and how they approach that, and it 530 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 4: involved multiple tests. You know, they also increased the number 531 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: of times the kid could take it before. You know, Now, 532 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: one thing we don't know from the reading that I 533 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: want to put out there is. We know how many 534 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 4: kids didn't pass it, Okay, it's it's like ten thousand kids. 535 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 4: And so now what's going to happen is they have 536 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 4: to give good cause exemptions. There are certain exemptions that 537 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 4: the legislature has said, these are good causes of exemptions 538 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 4: that they get to move on to the fourth grade 539 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: even though they didn't pass this. The majority of those 540 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: are going to be kids special education, kids with IEPs. 541 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: But in the past there would be a bunch of 542 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 4: good cause exemptions, there would still be thousands of kids 543 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: who didn't have an exemption and they still moved them forward. 544 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 4: So according to the Department of Education, we're not going 545 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 4: to know the actual retention numbers until October. 546 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: So well, very good, we'll look forward. Are you coming 547 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: back in October and telling us all about that uplifting news. 548 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: She is one of the best in the business. Indiana 549 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle dot Com. Nikki Kelly, thank you, no problem. 550 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: It's Kennel and Casey Show ninety three WIBC. It's so 551 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: worth a lot of money and this should really make 552 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: you angry. It's the Kennel and Casey Show. I'm Rob 553 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: Casey's out today. Jerry Lopez Cindy Spanglish on Twitter for 554 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: Casey So. Indy Star has a new article out that 555 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: according to Sportico, they have released the valuations of the 556 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: NFL teams. They do this for all the major sports franchises, 557 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: and the Colt's valuation has risen, according to Sportco, by 558 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: fifteen percent in one year. I think about, like how 559 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: your stock portfolio is doing, probably not going up fifteen 560 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: percent year over year. The actual valuation Jerry five point 561 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: seven two billion dollars. 562 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 5: That's a big chunk of change. 563 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: Be thinking about the cost of tickets, the cost of food, 564 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: the cost of all these things go into this, right 565 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: what I envisioned, and I hope it doesn't happen here Indianapolis. 566 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: But if you look at a lot of these other teams, 567 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: whether it's the Dallas Cowboys or Chicago Bears now moving 568 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: talk about movie Yeah, Arlington Heights, the Patriots, right, these 569 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: owners now want to buy the property. We don't want 570 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: just the stadium, we want seven eight blocks. We could 571 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: put up a casino, a restaurant and keep all the 572 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: revenue to ourselves. 573 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: Well, And it's interesting because you look at the collapse 574 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: of the Indie eleven deal here that was in place 575 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: the Diamond chain, which would have tied in perfectly to 576 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium. And now that obviously would have been 577 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: an India eleven deals separate from the Colts. But you're 578 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: right when you start putting these franchises together, in the 579 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: amount of space Lucas Oil Stadium takes up. So the 580 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Colts are actually twenty eighth in the league in terms 581 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: of evaluation. The Dallas Cowboys are number one. They would 582 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: up twenty four percent year, twelve point eight billion dollars. 583 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: Look how much other revenue they generate. Well, what's interesting 584 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: is the reason. Part of the reason that the valuations 585 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: are spiking is the NFL has now passed a rule. 586 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: The owners agreed that hedge funds, these investment groups can 587 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: buy into oh wow, own percentages of NFL teams. So 588 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: like these Saudi wealth funds or all of these outside 589 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: groups that previously you could not do that now so 590 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: you can only own own a certain percentage. But because 591 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: of the new money that that would allow to come 592 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: into owning sports teams, it has risen the valuation. There's 593 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: other things a factory I've met. 594 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: Sports gambling, right, they have partnerships with people like that. 595 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: Sure, there's a wide variety of reasons. My point on 596 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: all this is, though, one of the major assets of 597 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts is Lucas Oil Stadium. It's a five 598 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: point seventy two billion dollar company essentially, I mean, that's 599 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: what they are. They're a profit making industry. Those owners, Yes, 600 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: they're into their teams, but they're there to make money. 601 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: That's what they do, right. The Colts make money. They're 602 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: a business, they employ people, They're a mega corporation. If 603 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: I told you there's a business and it's worth five 604 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: point seven two billion, you'd go Holy smokes. And then 605 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: if I told you more than a billion of it 606 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: is subsidized by the taxpayers, a little bit different that you. 607 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: People would be outraged. If I told you there is 608 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: a private company there's worth five point seven two billion, 609 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: and you the taxpayers are contributing over a period of 610 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: time over one billion dollars, which you are with interest 611 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: one point two billion or whatever the number is, to 612 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: that company. If I took if I struck the name 613 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts and I put Eli Lilly or Emphasis or 614 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: whoever in this place, people would be outraged. And that's 615 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: what's happening here. Poor and middle class people have money 616 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: taken from them every time they go eat somewhere. And 617 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: then there's a variety of other taxes that go to 618 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: that stadium. The biggest one, though, is the food and 619 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: beverage tax. And that is ridiculous that a company, which 620 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: is what the Colts are, that's worth five point seven 621 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: two billion dollars, needs money from regular people in order 622 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: to pay their bills, and then the regular people can't 623 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: even go to the game. Well, right, you your wife, 624 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: you want to take your two kids, it's three hundred 625 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: and twenty dollars to sit in the sixth sixth section. Yeah. 626 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: By the way, the other ones of note, because they 627 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: did like I said they did. 628 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: I'd like to know top five and how many own 629 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: their own property. Patriot's got to be up there. 630 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: The biggest, the biggest riser was the the second biggest riserver, 631 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: sorry by percentage, was the Los Angeles Rams. I'm sorry, no, 632 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: they were over all the biggest. Their valuation. We said 633 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys were twenty four percent. The Los Angeles Rams 634 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: went up thirty four percent, up to ten point four 635 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: to three billion, as did the New York Giants ten 636 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: point two five billion, thirty four percent. So you're right, Jerry. 637 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: They sell pro sports as the idea of community, right 638 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: because for a long time, for decades, for generations, pro 639 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: sports was the idea of community, the hometown team. Everybody goes. 640 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: This is not that when you couple what you're talking 641 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: about with the with the gobbling up of real estate. 642 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: We've seen this with just Chicago Cubs and the properties 643 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: around Wrigley Field. They're selling you the idea that they're 644 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: invested in you, when the reality is you're invested in them. 645 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: It does not come back because there's no reason if 646 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: the Colts were invested in the city of Indianapolis that 647 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 1: with a straight face, they would continue to take money 648 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: from people who in many cases it's a huge it's 649 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: a huge issue, right. I mean, it may one percent 650 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: food and beverage tax may not sound like a lot, 651 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 1: but if you're a person on a fixed income, it is, 652 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: and especially if you don't live in Indianapolis, that's. 653 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: One percent for sixty thousand fans. 654 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 1: Right Well, exactly if you live in if you live 655 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: outside of the city of Indianapolis, there is zero reason, zero, zip, zilch, nothing, 656 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: Nathan Nada that if you live in Greenwood, or you 657 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: live in Brownsburg, or you live in Fishers, that you're 658 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: paying for that stadium. People are not staying in droves 659 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: at hotels and Fishers or in green I'm not saying 660 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: there are some people who may do that, but the 661 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: investor in versus the revenue back, that's a horrible business plan. 662 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: And we are subsidized, and they're taking money from us 663 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: to subsidize the Indianapolis colts that are worth Oh yeah, 664 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: I do have the list right here. Are you ready 665 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: for the list? Okay, Dallas Cowboys are one twelve point 666 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: eight billion, Rams are two ten point four to three billion, 667 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: Giants three ten point twenty five billion. All right, can 668 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: you guess the next two? Can you round out the 669 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: top five? Now that you know the top three. 670 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 5: I'm surprised the Patriots aren't up there. They own that 671 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 5: whole area. 672 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: Well, I'm asking you, you are I would say Patriots 673 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: would be four. Okay, you're you are correct. 674 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 5: And five would be another team that maybe the Bears. 675 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: The Bears are not. The Bears are not even in 676 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: the top ten. They're eleventh. That's seven point four to 677 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: five billion. They don't own their stadium. That's why the 678 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: Bears are in the top five right now. They don' 679 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: own their stadium because of the city. Chicago own astaum 680 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: forty nine ers eight point six billion. Ok So the 681 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: lowest who do you think is the least valuable franchise 682 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: in the National Football League according to Sportico. 683 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: I want to say the Cleveland Browns, but it's probably 684 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: somebody like the Carolina Panthers owned by the Wall Wall. 685 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: The Panthers are just ahead of the Colts at twenty 686 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: seventh at five point seven to six billion, The Bengals 687 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: dead last, Cincinnati Bengals five point five billion. Directly in 688 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: front of them the Jacksonville Jaguars five point five to 689 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: seven billion, and then the Saints. The Saints, and the 690 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: Saints are at number thirty five point sixty three billion. 691 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: Still filthy rich. Oh yeah, all right, So the Treasury 692 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: Secretary has come out and said he wants to get 693 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: rid of Congress being able to trade stocks. We'll tell 694 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 1: you about it coming up next. Kiddle Case Show. GotY 695 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: three wwints