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Speaker 1: Line from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 2: What we know.

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Speaker 3: Is that everything that we made assumption about regarding the

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Speaker 3: assassin of Charlie Kirk's accurate. We knew that this was

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Speaker 3: an activist or of types. We knew this is somebody

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Speaker 3: who was radicalized. We knew this is somebody from the

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Speaker 3: progressive left, and everything has turned out to be accurate

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Speaker 3: on those points.

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Speaker 4: We should just say so.

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Speaker 3: All of Americas should say so, and they should not

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Speaker 3: feel that somehow they can't say so or scream but

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Speaker 3: Trump and but right wing extremism and all the rest.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we should ever avoid a story. I

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Speaker 3: am not in favor of avoiding stories. I do not

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Speaker 3: avoid stories. But dear lord, the assassin was a progressive

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Speaker 3: in a romantic relationship with a man who thought he

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Speaker 3: was a woman or thought that he could become a woman.

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Speaker 4: So both of them were mentally ill.

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Speaker 3: And if you feed into mental illness, can I ask,

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Speaker 3: what exactly do you think you're going to get other

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Speaker 3: than a serious problem.

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 4: Find everything over at Tony Katz dot com. Super easy

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Speaker 4: to do.

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Speaker 3: Utah will seek the death penalty. We found that out yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Governor Spencer Cox had mentioned that the suspect

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Speaker 3: and I don't use names, appeared in court via video link,

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Speaker 3: staring stonefaced directly into the camera, only speaking to confirm

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Speaker 3: his name.

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Speaker 4: That was it wearing.

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Speaker 3: They keep saying he was wearing the anti suicide vest.

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Speaker 3: It's like a smock. It was actually developed and created

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Speaker 3: so you can't hang.

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Speaker 4: Yourself with it. Do I understand that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: It's just it won't allow you to do certain things

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Speaker 3: to it and to allow you to inflict harm upon yourself.

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Speaker 3: We saw the text messages. Now the text messages.

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Speaker 4: Are really so. The text messages are this weird, weird back.

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Speaker 3: And forth between the murderer and the roommate to which

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Speaker 3: he was having some type of romantic relationship, to which

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Speaker 3: the roommate actually states, you weren't the one who did it, right,

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Speaker 3: And the killer responds, I am, I'm sorry. The roommate says,

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Speaker 3: I thought they caught the person, and Robinson says, no,

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Speaker 3: they grabbed some crazy old dude then interrogated someone in

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Speaker 4: Now, a little follow up to that in one of the.

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Speaker 3: Weirder stories within this story. The guy that they first

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Speaker 4: That guy started screaming, I did it forgive me.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a good which is a really

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Speaker 3: weird thing to do when you're doing a live stream,

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Speaker 3: very frightening right there. He was this older white dude

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Speaker 3: and he was screaming I shot him, now shoot me.

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Speaker 3: And he was taken into custody and he said, I'm

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Speaker 3: Didn't even know who the shooter was, but he started

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Speaker 4: Let me say that again.

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Speaker 3: The guy that we thought was the shooter at first,

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Speaker 3: this older white guy who was screaming shoot me, shoot me,

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Speaker 3: I shot him, meaning I shot Charlie Kirk, now shoot me,

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Speaker 3: had no connection to the actual assassin who is now

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Speaker 3: Officers actually asked that guy where's the gun, and he's like,

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Speaker 3: So you go back to the to the text messages

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Speaker 3: and the roommate says, why'd you do it?

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Speaker 3: Assassin says, I had enough of his hatred. Some hate

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Speaker 3: can't be negotiated out. If I am able to grab

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Speaker 3: Going to attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully they have

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Speaker 3: That is not a society long for this world. This

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Speaker 4: It is odd.

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Speaker 3: Do people just so admit to everything like so in

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Speaker 4: This to the police.

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Speaker 3: He didn't know the police we're going to ask about

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Speaker 3: find that hard to believe. Harder to believe or maybe

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Speaker 3: not is the idea that over at ABC, a reporter

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Speaker 3: by the name of Matt Gutman commenting on the story, Well,

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Speaker 3: here he is, in his own words.

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Speaker 6: An alleged murder.

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Speaker 7: With such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon,

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Speaker 7: But also it was very touching in a way that

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Speaker 7: suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who was transitioning,

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Speaker 7: calling him my love and I want to protect you,

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Speaker 3: That's ABC telling, Oh, yeah, he assassinated Charlie Kirk, but

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Speaker 3: you know he had a lot of love in his heart.

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Speaker 4: It was actually quite touching. We live in a very

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Speaker 3: When you could think that that is an appropriate thing

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Speaker 3: moments we have to be like, well, what about the killer.

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Speaker 3: Isn't he a victim too? And if you're like, well,

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Speaker 3: this's the first time I've ever heard this. Do you

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Speaker 3: don't remember the Sarnev brother being on the cover of

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Speaker 4: Oh? Sure, he was the bomber of the Boston massacre,

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Speaker 3: That reporter Matt Guttman has apologized putting out yesterday. I

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Speaker 3: tried to underscore the jargon contrast between this cold blooded

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Speaker 3: to public dialogue, and the personal, disturbing text read aloud

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Speaker 3: deeply regret that my words did not make that clear.

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Speaker 3: But let there be zero doubt here, writes Matt Gutman.

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Speaker 3: I unequivocally condemned this horrific crime and the pain that

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Speaker 4: The millions of people he inspired.

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Speaker 3: I will leave it to you as to whether or

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Speaker 3: not you would accept such an apology, whether or not

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Speaker 4: He is doing so.

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Speaker 3: But before you do, let me bring you now to

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Speaker 3: the commentary of Montel Williams.

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Speaker 4: On CNN.

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Speaker 8: There are people who are trying to pigeonhole this as

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Speaker 8: a leftist thing and a right thing. And what we're

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Speaker 8: when I say this. We're talking about a love torn child,

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Speaker 8: somebody was disparaging the person that he loved.

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Speaker 4: He sat on that building for thirty minutes before he

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Speaker 8: First word trance came up?

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Speaker 4: Then he took the shot. You think he heard it,

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Speaker 8: I think he could hear it. I think he also.

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Speaker 8: I don't believe he was motivated politically. I think this

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Speaker 4: You can argue that he was motivated emotionally, But the.

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Speaker 3: Concept itself of recognizing that men are not women and

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Speaker 4: That is not the way the world works.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, it should be clear that

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Speaker 4: Are the abusers.

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Speaker 3: They are abusive, telling me how I have to talk,

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Speaker 4: And then will kill you, oh, or will.

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Speaker 4: You don't get to do that.

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Speaker 3: Secondly, Montelle, this was a twenty two year old, not

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Speaker 3: Parent of a twenty two year old, twenty two year

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Speaker 4: The effect this has on everybody around it.

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Speaker 3: You play to mental illness, you lift up mental illness,

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Speaker 4: They're doing to this person.

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Speaker 3: I have to now, every single conversation about trans this,

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Speaker 4: You're trying to erase me. No one is raising you.

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Speaker 4: This is the lie. This is to put you on defense.

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Speaker 3: You're right there. I see you, and you see you,

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Speaker 3: but you keep telling me you're a woman when you're not.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Going to acknowledge that that's not erasing you. That's actually

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Speaker 3: And I didn't say it was easy. I didn't say

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Speaker 3: not being erased, You are being shown.

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Speaker 4: Who you actually are. You just don't like what you see.

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Speaker 3: We're going to have this conversation. We're going to have

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Speaker 3: it all the way down to the nth degree. The

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Speaker 3: people who push the trans insanity on America are people

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Speaker 3: who are desperate to detroy Western civilization. And what better

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Speaker 9: I don't know the number. But it's not that.

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Speaker 3: But honestly, I don't care where you are on the

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Speaker 3: What they want is power. What they want is control.

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Speaker 12: And then it gets worse because he's politicizing and weaponizing

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Speaker 4: Over as his own authoritarian rule.

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Speaker 3: That is representative Dan Goldman, and you can't spell yuts

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Speaker 4: Dan Goldman is so awful. His Hebrew name is Blach.

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Speaker 4: It's by the way, that joke is so good.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere my rabbi is laughing out loud, just joyfully and gleefully.

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Speaker 3: My rabbi and my mother are both like, Ah, I

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Speaker 4: Black, yeah, from Poland.

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Speaker 4: Who are the autocrats? Who are the violent ones?

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Speaker 3: Can't even have a memorial, but they scream about Trump

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Speaker 3: reported that Joe Biden, as reported, Joe Biden is struggling

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Speaker 4: Cash is in? You think I care?

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Speaker 4: These, by the way, they're cowards.

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Speaker 3: If you really wanted Joe Biden, you hired Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: We'll fight that guy. No bunch of cowards.

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Speaker 3: And also, Joe Biden didn't, you know, endear himself to anybody.

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Speaker 3: And then Grandpa Joe would show up and the next

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because he has nothing to offer.

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Speaker 3: He has no mind to offer, he has no stories

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Speaker 3: standard of a person. I'm not saying that at all,

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Speaker 3: But rather we see ex presidents go into rather lavish lifestyles.

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Speaker 3: Now Bush already had had money. He just went back

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Speaker 3: to the ranch, right, did some speaking here and there,

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Speaker 3: does some things. But in the main, George Bush has

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Speaker 3: been a pretty quiet cat living his life.

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Speaker 4: I'm done, thank you. I did two terms. I went

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Speaker 4: through it.

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Speaker 3: If it's all right with you, guys, I am gonna

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Speaker 3: just Oh, he doesn't drink anymore. I'm just gonna like

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Speaker 3: paint and feed my soul and solid. I can respect that.

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't happen too often. It's actually a beautiful

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Speaker 3: idea which I'd like to see more of. Oh no,

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Speaker 3: you will not see that from Donald Trump. I could

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Speaker 3: see Donald Trump not being it's gonna sound so weird.

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Speaker 3: I could see him not being a face every day.

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Speaker 3: But it certainly he's going to be a face every week.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the way to say it. If Biden

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Speaker 3: just decided he was gonna step out, I'm done here.

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Speaker 3: I only have so much time left. There are grandchildren

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Speaker 3: to look at, there are sunsets to view. There is

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Speaker 3: a wife's hand to hold. I'd like to do that, please,

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Speaker 3: I'd respect it. This is a story about the fact

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Speaker 3: that he can't cash in.

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Speaker 4: On the trappings. You don't deserve the trappings. Man.

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Speaker 3: You weren't running the country. You were beyond divisive. You

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Speaker 3: pardoned your family, and you know how guilty you are. Oh,

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Speaker 3: by the way, it may not have been you, in

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Speaker 3: which case you.

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Speaker 4: Don't even know if you're making a living or not.

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Speaker 4: But I ain't gonna feel bad for Joe Biden. The

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Speaker 4: Bidens did this to themselves. And I look forward.

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Speaker 3: To Joe Biden checking me out at Walmart sometime soon,

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Speaker 3: because a Walmart vest will probably be the best she's.

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Speaker 4: Been dressed in a long time.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm not apologizing for that line either. This is Tony

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Speaker 4: Kats today.

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Speaker 14: Why are you hiding pedophiles? Why are you shielding pedophiles?

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Speaker 14: Why are you protecting pedophiles?

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Speaker 5: That is maybe the most offensive thing you could say

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Speaker 5: to me, given the numbers.

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Speaker 9: Well, you have not relieve the number files of pedophile.

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Speaker 14: We're aware of the client list that was published in

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Speaker 14: the eighteen thousand.

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Speaker 9: And the gentleman has expired.

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Speaker 11: Gentleman, you're going to answer the questions.

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Speaker 9: Of course, can answer the questions since I took over.

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Speaker 3: Why would you answer a question from Hank Johnson, why

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Speaker 3: are you protecting pedophiles? Left can't do this? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't playing on talking this much about about Epstein.

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Speaker 3: But if this is the best that you've got, Hank Johnson,

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Speaker 3: why are you protecting pedophiles? Holy heck? That you are

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Speaker 3: completely disconnected? People are connecting? Are people like the governor

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Speaker 3: of New Mexico? I want the Epstein files as much

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Speaker 3: as the next guy. Why are you protecting pedophiles? That

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Speaker 3: works for the progressives progressive, it doesn't work for anybody else.

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Speaker 3: You can't gain voters that way. We want the release

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Speaker 3: of the files. You're gonna name call them.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna work.

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Speaker 3: Working is going the opposite direction is the governor of

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Speaker 3: New Mexico, Michelle Luan Grisham, who has said that deploying

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Speaker 3: the National Guards combat crime, and Albuquerque has had felony

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Speaker 3: arrests up twenty two percent, misdemeanors rests up thirty percent.

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Speaker 3: She declared a state of emergency in April. She didn't

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Speaker 3: wait for Trump. This precedes Trump deployed National Guard troops

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Speaker 3: to the root sixty six quarter, defending her decisions, saying, quote,

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Speaker 3: I'm not looking for a reputation. I'm looking to solve

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Speaker 3: a problem until every New Mexican meets their constitutional right

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Speaker 3: to feel safe in their church and home and grocery store.

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Speaker 3: Democrats ought to lean in to make sure that everyone

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Speaker 3: in their states and communities feels and is safe.

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Speaker 4: This is the way.

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Speaker 3: Democrats should be approaching the subject of Trump and safety.

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Speaker 3: In the hearing with Cash Fatelity, FBI director Steve Cohen

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Speaker 3: KF Steve as I called him, remembering he was so

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Speaker 3: angry at Trump. He was eating Kentucky Fried chicken on

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Speaker 3: the floor of the house. It was very weird. I

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Speaker 3: referre toim as KF Steve. I think I'm the only one.

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Speaker 3: But it makes me laugh, and honestly, that's enough. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: he's like, tell me about how what's going on with

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Speaker 3: Memphis and how law enforcements working. What have you sent in?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure you need to send in the National Guard?

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Speaker 3: Because we really do appreciate the FBI being there, and

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Speaker 3: we appreciate the DA being there. I don't think we

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Speaker 3: need the National Guard, but there's been some good work

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Speaker 3: done and we really appreciate it. I think that Cash

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Speaker 3: Motel should have been much more effusive, and hey, thank

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Speaker 3: you appreciate that we want to do the work for you.

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Speaker 3: At anytime, you want to take a walk through through

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Speaker 3: Memphis and we could talk to the people there about

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Speaker 3: what's going on. I'm happy to join you to do

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Speaker 3: it to show that we can work together on these issues.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, Cohen is rabid as a left and

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Speaker 3: here he was saying this is working, this is the way,

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Speaker 3: and Democrats can get themselves reelection if they do this.

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Speaker 3: I know what you're saying. Why are you encouraging them

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Speaker 3: to do this? I'm encouraging save cities where people aren't

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Speaker 3: democrats live the fact that the Democrat is smart enough politically.

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Speaker 4: To gain from it. Well, finally, what took them so long?

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Speaker 4: Not JB.

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Speaker 3: Pritzker, you know smarter people. Clearly, this is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Line from Vaal Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America, it's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: The Federal Open Market Committee, which is just second in

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Speaker 3: popularity to the Taylor Swift fan Club. They are going

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Speaker 3: to be having their meeting and releasing the info on

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Speaker 3: whether or not they're going to be setting a new

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Speaker 3: rate on overnight borrowing. Translation, are we bringing down interest

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Speaker 3: rates that isn't what we're doing now. I will We'll

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Speaker 3: put forth to you that I I stare at this economy,

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Speaker 3: and I have said to you as clear.

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Speaker 4: As I can that I don't think we're in great place.

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Speaker 3: I from from from an advertising point of view, in

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Speaker 3: terms of radio. Everybody, of course is still trying to

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Speaker 3: compete for the business, but it's been tougher. The tariffs

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Speaker 3: have an absolute, real legitimate effect, absolute real legitimate effect.

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Speaker 4: They just do they they are.

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Speaker 3: They are causing a fair amount of problems. Inflation is

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Speaker 3: not gone better, absolutely positively better.

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Speaker 4: But not gone not by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 3: So the question before us is do we think that

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Speaker 3: the rate cuts are going to come if you don't

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Speaker 3: want Trump screaming at you? The answer is yes. But

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Speaker 3: even if you were to drop them half a point

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Speaker 3: fifty basis points, he's still going to scream at You're

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Speaker 3: You're not going to win this battle. You are going

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Speaker 3: to get yelled at. You are going to be called

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Speaker 3: the names. I mean, that's that's very, very obvious. You

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Speaker 3: are going to be called a tremendous number of names.

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Speaker 3: That said, I'm still fifty to fifty. There were times

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Speaker 3: I was Okay, I know what he's gonna do. I

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Speaker 3: think the money is on a fifty basis point cut.

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Speaker 3: I think that's where the money is, which is to

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Speaker 3: say half a percent. I just.

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Speaker 4: We will wait, we will see.

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Speaker 3: You have got the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee,

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Speaker 3: Tim Scott saying that a fifty point basis cut is

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Speaker 3: possible this week.

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Speaker 4: We'll find out soon enough.

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Speaker 3: You've got Israeli troop movement pushing forward into Gaza City.

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Speaker 3: The decision has been made. Hamas will be destroyed. And

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Speaker 3: there was a very weird statement from President Trump. I

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Speaker 3: mean it was, it was. It was a very odd statement.

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Speaker 3: It was about the idea of human shields. And it

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Speaker 3: was odd because Trump knows the answer to this question.

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Speaker 3: He knows the answer regarding human shields and what it

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Speaker 3: is that Hamas does, well, of course he does.

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Speaker 11: Round offenses is now underway in god the City. Your reaction.

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Speaker 3: We're going to see what happens, because I hear Hamas

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Speaker 3: is trying to use the old human shield deal, and if.

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Speaker 11: They do that, they're going to be in big trouble.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be in big trouble.

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Speaker 15: They put it out two days ago that they're going

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Speaker 15: to use the.

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Speaker 4: Hostages as human shields. That's something that hasn't done for

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Speaker 4: a long time.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, with all due respect, mister President,

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Speaker 3: they've been using the hostages as human shields since the beginning.

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Speaker 4: They've been using people as human shields.

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Speaker 3: Is putting themselves under schools, putting themselves under hospitals, in hospitals.

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Speaker 3: This is this is the modus operunda. This is who

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Speaker 3: they are. This is what they do. So when you

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Speaker 3: tell me that if they do that, there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: big trouble, Well they're doing that.

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Speaker 4: Now, what what.

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Speaker 3: Is the big trouble, mister President? I am curious. I

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Speaker 3: am curious to know what the.

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Speaker 4: Big trouble is?

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Speaker 3: Is the big trouble that you are going to assist

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Speaker 3: Israel in eradicating Hamas.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna go to Cutter and say.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna turn over every Hamas member or not only

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Speaker 3: are we going to stop you from donating to any school,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna freeze your money and we might slap you

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Speaker 3: around a little bit. We might slap you around, laugh

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Speaker 3: out loud, and while we do that, mock your sister.

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Speaker 4: What's the what does it mean? What in the world.

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Speaker 3: Does it mean when the president says they're going to

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Speaker 3: be in big trouble, don't use lines, sir, that would

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Speaker 3: be reminiscent.

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Speaker 4: Of Barack Obama.

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Speaker 3: And as red lines, don't say things that you don't mean,

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Speaker 3: don't say things that you're not going to follow up on.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that. Then there is, as there's always a

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Speaker 3: hearing on the hill, there is a hearing involving the

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Speaker 3: former CDC director and a conversation, in this case about vaccines.

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Speaker 16: The CDC is the cause a vaccine hesitancy. That you

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Speaker 16: are the problem that because of COVID, and you're force

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Speaker 16: forcing these vaccines on people that weren't ever really proven

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Speaker 16: or justified, that the benefics didn't that weigh their risk.

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Speaker 16: And you all set there with your hands in your pockets,

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Speaker 16: and you let that happen, and then you let this

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Speaker 16: happatitis vaccine be at one day of age be forced

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Speaker 16: upon everybody, and all of a sudden, the moms and

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Speaker 16: the grandma's never trust you because you're trying to force

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Speaker 16: a vaccine that's not necessary at age at day one.

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Speaker 16: If you're going into nursing school, medical school, absolutely you

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Speaker 16: should consider that hepatitis vaccine. But basically, what the CDC

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Speaker 16: does is act like a mandate and you force doctors

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Speaker 16: that don't agree with you to kick patients out of

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Speaker 16: their clinics because they don't want their child to be

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Speaker 16: exposed to a vaccine that was approved after just like

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Speaker 16: one hundred and forty patients took it being followed up

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Speaker 16: for five days. It just makes no sense to me

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Speaker 16: that every person needs every vaccine.

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Speaker 3: But regardless, Now, this right here is a very interesting conversation.

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Speaker 4: And I've discussed in my own life that Senator Roger

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Speaker 4: Marshall was speaking there that.

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Speaker 3: When we took a look at our children, we took

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Speaker 3: a look at the vaccine schedule, we said, this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: My wife and I went to our doctor and said,

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Speaker 3: kid is X number of weeks old, and you want

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Speaker 3: them to take all of this. We're not We're not

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Speaker 3: in one one day. We're not doing that. We're not

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Speaker 3: doing that. Our doctor, to her credit, was like, well,

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Speaker 3: why don't we just break it up?

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Speaker 4: Will spread it out? Great?

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Speaker 3: That was our decision to make, and that's how we

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Speaker 3: made the decision.

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Speaker 4: Engage a vaccine, see.

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Speaker 3: The result, then move on to the next thing. I'm

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Speaker 3: not an anti vaccine guy. I am a guy who

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Speaker 3: thinks it's very acceptable to say out loud, what do

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Speaker 3: you mean a child that's a day old needs so

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Speaker 3: all of it's all of a sudden, get view, right.

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Speaker 4: So that's my that's my sound effect getting a shot real.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think I have any good shot sound

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Speaker 3: effects right there? I do have a good one, like

676
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Speaker 3: you know, should it one day old get a shot?

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Speaker 4: I wasn't bad. I wasn't bad.

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Speaker 3: He's bringing up a rational point that you may have

679
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Speaker 3: had a discussion of, your spouse may have had a

680
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Speaker 3: discussion of.

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Speaker 4: It's a rational argument being made here.

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Speaker 3: But more than that is the recognition that the CDC

683
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Speaker 3: is responsible for people saying I don't trust the way

684
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Speaker 3: you handled COVID was absolutely horrific. And I am not

685
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Speaker 3: somebody who's opposed to the quote unquote vaccine the first

686
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: one or a post operational warp speed. It really did

687
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Speaker 3: change how we do things in America and for the

688
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Speaker 3: better for the future.

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Speaker 4: But it is very clear that the.

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Speaker 3: Vaccine of the first was not the vaccine for any

691
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Speaker 3: other types of COVID that came around.

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Speaker 4: And did you see that.

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Speaker 12: It was?

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Speaker 4: It a.

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Speaker 3: Kathy Holkel, the governor of New York, is like, I

696
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Speaker 3: just got.

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Speaker 4: My booster shot. Who who is still getting boosters? People?

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Speaker 3: There are people who are still wearing masks, people who

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Speaker 3: still get boosters. People so afraid of their own shadows,

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Speaker 3: so afraid of happiness? Who what still believe that we're

701
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Speaker 3: gonna get them killed? Even though that was never the case,

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Speaker 3: never ever, never ever. They used to scream that if

703
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Speaker 3: you don't get vaccinated, you're gonna kill My grandma had

704
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Speaker 3: nothing to do with me, but I didn't get vaccinated.

705
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Speaker 3: The only person who I could be hurting was me.

706
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Speaker 3: You were never ever, ever, ever in danger, never once.

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Speaker 3: And then there was Mark Wayne Mullen who engaged in

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Speaker 3: this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you something. Your conversation with

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Speaker 2: the secretary. You said that he said he didn't trust you.

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Speaker 2: You testifated. That is that really how that conversation went,

712
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: because there's other people in the room, and I think

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Speaker 2: the conversation was can he trust you?

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Speaker 4: So this is the senator from Oklahoma, Mark Way Mullen.

715
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Speaker 3: Speaking to the former CDC director and starting by challenging

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Speaker 3: her characterization of the conversation with Secretary Robert Kennedy.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you something. Your conversation with the secretary.

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Speaker 2: You said that he said he didn't trust you. You

719
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Speaker 2: testifated that is that really how that conversation went, because

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Speaker 2: there's other people in the room, and I think the

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Speaker 2: conversation was can he trust you? And your answer was

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Speaker 2: he said he could not trust me. No, the answer, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: It was a recorded meeting. So you can testify one way,

724
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Speaker 2: or you can prove that you're lying or give him

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Speaker 2: and be honest with this committee.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, So that Senator Molan saying I've got it.

727
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Speaker 3: I've got it right here in my hand. You're not

728
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Speaker 3: telling the truth about your meeting with the second Ary

729
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Speaker 3: of Health and Human Services. Maybe you should be honest,

730
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Speaker 3: to which she is gonna, I don't know, double down.

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Speaker 2: And I'm giving you the opportunity to be honest here

732
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Speaker 2: because you've been really walking around the edges and not

733
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Speaker 2: being truthful. So did he ask you the question can

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Speaker 2: he trust you? And your answer was.

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Speaker 13: He told me he could not trust me, and I

736
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Speaker 13: told him if he could not trust me, he could

737
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Speaker 13: fire me.

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Speaker 2: That isn't how that conversation went. And you know that,

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Speaker 2: don't you.

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Speaker 13: He told me he could not trust me, and I

741
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Speaker 13: told him if he could not trust me, he could

742
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Speaker 13: fire me.

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Speaker 2: Ma'am. All we're looking for is you to be honest,

744
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Speaker 2: and you haven't been. You're not You're not being honest

745
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: with the conversation you're having, you're not being honest with

746
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Speaker 2: the timeline, and you won't even give the answers to

747
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Speaker 2: who your attorneys were. And all we're looking for is

748
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Speaker 2: you to be honest. If we're going to have a

749
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Speaker 2: hearing and we're going to discuss certain things, let's make

750
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Speaker 2: sure we're talking with someone that we can trust your answers.

751
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Speaker 2: It's like my kids. I tell my kids all the time,

752
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Speaker 2: you know one thing I want from you. I can

753
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Speaker 2: deal with any situation we walk into as long as

754
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Speaker 2: I know you're being one hundred percent honest with me.

755
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Speaker 2: The minute I can't tell you're being honest with me,

756
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Speaker 2: I can't trust you. Then on everything you say is questioned,

757
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: and you have to question you because your personality and

758
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Speaker 2: your answers aren't correct.

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Speaker 3: Oh dang, by the way, her look of a defiance like,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm smarter than you. All right, You're also looking

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Speaker 3: for a job. There's this weird thing, and you heard

762
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Speaker 3: it in some of the testimony with Cash Betel as

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Speaker 3: I was, I was sharing that watching that earlier where

764
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Speaker 3: look at you, FBI director, and you fired all these people,

765
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Speaker 3: these good people who really know what they're doing, and

766
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Speaker 3: you don't know what you're doing.

767
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Speaker 4: But these other people, they knew what they were doing.

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Speaker 4: Are we sure.

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Speaker 17: You know?

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Speaker 3: It goes back to our conversation, does the institution exist

771
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Speaker 3: to serve the people, to serve the citizen, or does

772
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Speaker 3: it exist for the sake of the institution existing? And

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Speaker 3: every single time there's this idea that it exists for

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Speaker 3: the sake of the institution existing.

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Speaker 4: According to the left, some people need to get fired.

776
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying every day, I'm not saying all the time,

777
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Speaker 4: but it's.

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Speaker 3: Not surprising some people need to get fired some people

779
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Speaker 3: the day is done. And her look of smugness kinda

780
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Speaker 3: sends that to me. Maybe she doesn't mean to, maybe

781
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Speaker 3: it's just nerves, maybe it's just a I don't know

782
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Speaker 3: her just pleasing disposition. But man, if she's not telling

783
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Speaker 3: the truth. And there is a transcript somewhere, I really

784
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Speaker 3: want to see it. I really want to see it.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today. Well, it

786
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Speaker 3: seems that Representative Promila Jaya Paul She I don't know

787
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Speaker 3: if she still does or used to share the Progressive

788
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Speaker 3: Caucus in the House. She's from Washington State, losing her

789
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Speaker 3: mind with cash. Buttel have women come forward to you

790
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Speaker 3: regarding Jeffrey Epstein. Remember the Democratic Party doesn't actually care

791
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Speaker 3: as much as they see.

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Speaker 4: A political opportunity. I need to hit on Trump. You

793
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Speaker 4: and I and I will say that.

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Speaker 3: There are other people out there, regardless of the side

795
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Speaker 3: of the aisle, really want the information and want bad

796
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Speaker 3: guys in jail for abusing children. Tony Katz, Tony kats Today,

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Speaker 3: good to be with you. I haven't heard all this yet.

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Speaker 3: Finger on the dumb button. I'm pretty sure Land and

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Speaker 3: let's hear her lose it.

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Speaker 5: This administration is the only one that has welcomed any

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Speaker 5: new information.

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Speaker 4: In this character.

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Speaker 9: Yes or no, Present.

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Speaker 5: New credible information, present new information, the victim's credible victims. Nut,

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what happened to the last Trump administration.

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Speaker 9: You can't incredibly came forward and you know what happened.

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Speaker 5: President Trump authorized the indictments Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 9: Dumbiden not Obama, no one else.

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Speaker 16: The entire thing a democratic oaks.

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Speaker 4: So I would like to ask.

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Speaker 9: The lady Tom expired.

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Speaker 18: I gave her the additional forty five seconds.

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Speaker 11: He requested the general.

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Speaker 9: Lady yields back the gentleman's okay.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't as crazy as I thought it was going

816
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: to be. Trump's conversation. A democratic hoax is you aren't

817
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: serious about Epstein. You want to make this all about me.

818
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: You want to see how you can attack me. That's

819
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Speaker 3: his argument. I don't think ang it a hoax was

820
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Speaker 3: actually a great line from him, or a great argument

821
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Speaker 3: from him. I don't think he should have gone down

822
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Speaker 3: that road. But Promila Jaya Paul, I've seen her go nuttier.

823
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Speaker 3: I've seen her go crazier than that. Who hasn't seen

824
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Speaker 3: an audience go crazy in anger is Beyonce and Beyonce

825
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Speaker 3: and jay Z. Here's the headline. Beyonce and jay Z

826
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Speaker 3: face MAGA accusations after Avanka Trump and Jared Kushner sighting

827
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Speaker 3: during a casino night quote she dines with fascists. There's

828
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Speaker 3: a Justice Reform organization and co founded by jay Z,

829
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Speaker 3: had its second annual Casino Knight and gala in Atlantic City,

830
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 3: and eyebrows were raised by Beyonce and Avanka both being

831
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Speaker 3: there and talking to each other. You see, Beyoncey is

832
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Speaker 3: there because her husband co founded an event and a

833
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Speaker 3: charity and they got people who have a lot of

834
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Speaker 3: money to support it. But those people are on the

835
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Speaker 3: wrong side of the aisle. So therefore Beyonce must be destroyed.

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Speaker 3: I did the math right, I did the right. These

837
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Speaker 3: are the same people who believe the two plus two

838
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Speaker 3: equals five. Why because they feel that way with Jared

839
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Speaker 3: and Ivanka deplorable, disgraceful, disgusting. You mean because they're supporting

840
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Speaker 3: this justice reform organization co founded by Jay z.

841
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Speaker 4: That's disgusting.

842
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: Everything must be seen in the parlance of good and evil.

843
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: Either you agree with me one hundred percent or you

844
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: are evil. Everything not a good for them for being

845
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Speaker 3: a part of it. There, I am.

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Speaker 4: Talking about the governor of New Mexico.

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Speaker 3: I might disagree with Lujohn Grisham, Governor Grisham, about a

848
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Speaker 3: million things, but calling in the National Guard to make

849
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Speaker 3: Albuquerque safer for the people of Albuquerque, that's the right

850
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Speaker 3: thing to do.

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Speaker 4: Kungsan.

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Speaker 3: Steve Cohen of Tennessee I am not a fan in

853
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Speaker 3: any way, shape or form, but there he is saying,

854
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: good work by the FBI for helping to reduce crime.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we need the National Guard, but this

856
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Speaker 4: has been very helpful.

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Speaker 11: Great.

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Speaker 3: We could be rational people, or we could be the

859
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Speaker 3: people saying that Beyonce is dining with fascists. I hope

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Speaker 3: Beyonce knows you cannot outrun the hatred and the anger

861
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: of the progressive monster. That yes, in many ways you

862
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Speaker 3: have helped speed. I thought it was odd when the

863
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Speaker 3: retired General Kellogg, who's a special envoy for President Trump,

864
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Speaker 3: said that he and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs

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Speaker 3: Dan Raisin Kane, told him that Russia is losing this

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Speaker 3: war with Ukraine because the data has not said such

867
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Speaker 3: a thing. Now there are ebbs and there are flows.

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Speaker 3: That we should be clear that the Russians don't have

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Speaker 3: a great army, and that they were supposed to be

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Speaker 3: able to take Ukraine all those years ago, three years

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Speaker 3: ago plus in three days, and then they decided to

872
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Speaker 3: drive tanks across muddy fields and now here we are

873
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Speaker 3: still stuck in the mud in almost this level of

874
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Speaker 3: World War One esque. A trench warfare regarding taking a

875
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Speaker 3: little bit of land, losing a little bit of land,

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Speaker 3: taking a little.

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Speaker 4: Losing a little bit of land.

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Speaker 3: But in the main, Russia owns seventy to ninety percent

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Speaker 3: of the dunbosston Nets and Luhansk. They own sixty to

880
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Speaker 3: eighty percent of another region called Zaporsia, working its way

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Speaker 3: down to Krimea. They attended Vladimir Putin attended the meeting

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Speaker 3: with President Trump, and then nothing has happened, except for,

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Speaker 3: of course, a drone attack on Poland.

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Speaker 4: They don't seem daunted.

885
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: They seem like they're moving forward, that they have the

886
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: upper hand and they can get more concessions.

887
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 4: But the Ukrainians are willing, and.

888
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 3: Their drone strikes with these very weird looking drones, drones

889
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 3: that look like they were made by the Wright brothers

890
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: a Kiddihawk, are ruining and destroying oil refineries and forcing

891
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 3: the Russians to not be able to export gas, export energy,

892
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 3: which is affecting them financially. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

893
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 3: good to be with you. Major Mike Lyons joins me

894
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 3: right now, retired United States Army military analyst.

895
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 4: I want to get into the Russia story.

896
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: But first, just quickly, as I brought it up earlier,

897
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 3: you have the Israelis making the decision to make moves

898
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: on Gaza. They are moving in, people are trying to

899
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: avoid what might be coming. You have the President saying

900
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: that there's a real concern if Hamas is using the

901
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 3: hostages as human shields, that's going to be a real problem.

902
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: But they've always been using Hamas as human shields or

903
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 3: a poustitians this human shields or anybody that they can

904
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 3: as human shields. Is there something different about Israel's move

905
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: now and does.

906
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: It signal something to you about where this war is.

907
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 19: Going Tony, Yes, what's different is that it's this the

908
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 19: beginning of the end now for Hamas. From Israel's perspective,

909
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 19: I think they will go into the tunnels, likely knowing

910
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 19: they won't pull a hostage out alive and the ones

911
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 19: they might not get the remains back of the ones

912
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 19: that have already been killed. I think that this is

913
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 19: the perfect company political pressure plus military application of it,

914
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 19: because I do think that bybe Nita was running out

915
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 19: of time with regard to getting this thing over. I

916
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 19: think the president, our president wants it over as soon

917
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 19: as possible. So this is the quick application of a

918
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 19: military operation flooding those tunnels, that those tunnels remain Hamas's

919
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 19: sword and shield and all those things about it, and

920
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 19: something that you haven't seen in history, you know, going

921
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 19: back to the Vietnam War and other places when the

922
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 19: enemy used that kind of a system. But this is

923
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 19: the beginning of the end now from Hamas's perspective, the

924
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 19: attacks on Doho started that the decapitation strategy, that's what

925
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 19: Israel always leads with anyway.

926
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 6: But I think I think.

927
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 19: Israel is going to look to declare victory within the

928
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 19: next few weeks.

929
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: Let's say, you what do you believe has changed to

930
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: make Israel say and getting back these people.

931
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: Has been the only thing on their mind.

932
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: We can't get them back because they knew they would

933
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 3: have to destroy Hamas. We knew this was always coming

934
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: October eighth. The entirety of Israel changed on that subject.

935
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 3: But this is an admission of they're going to die,

936
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: or they're already dead, and there's nothing we can do

937
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 3: about it. That's a very different approach what brought net

938
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: and Yahoo and his cabinet to this place.

939
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 19: I think the clock and I mean by that is,

940
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 19: I think our president's running out of time of supporting

941
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 19: Israel and Ya who does not want to be a

942
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Speaker 19: political liability for Donald Trump, recognizing that we have elections

943
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 19: in our country next year and it's important that from

944
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 19: his perspective that Trump and the Republicans maintained control of

945
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 19: the Senate in the House. And so I think that's

946
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Speaker 19: what's driving this again political decision and the application of

947
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 19: the military in order to support that, so that the

948
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 19: time is now to get this done, to get it

949
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 19: done as fast as possible. Israel has recalled all the

950
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 19: reservists in order to do this, hundreds of thousands, so

951
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 19: the country remains all in, and I think that's that's

952
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 19: what basically drove this train, is that they don't want

953
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 19: to volatile President Trump telling them eventually that's saying that's it.

954
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 6: They'll have to.

955
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 19: Cut off any kind of support we have for Israel.

956
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 19: That would be just, you know, unsatisfactory from Israel's perspective.

957
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired in the United States

958
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Speaker 3: Army military analyst, now let's move it over.

959
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 4: To Russia and Ukraine.

960
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 3: What we see is these very weird looking drones, sir,

961
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: and when I say, very very weird. They they they

962
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 3: don't look like drones. They look like here, let me

963
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: see if I.

964
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 4: Can pull up a photo for you. These things. They

965
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: they look like what's the what's the best word I

966
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 4: can I can come up with. They look like planes

967
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 4: from kiddiehawk.

968
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: They look like something you would build with your dad

969
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: in the backyard out of plywood.

970
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 4: They aren't going to look like it should fly.

971
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: And these things are flying over a thousand kilometers right

972
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Speaker 3: to hit Russian oil refineries with great success.

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Speaker 4: Talk to me about what these planes are. How did

974
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 4: they get this technology.

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Speaker 3: To the even though it looks so crude and rudimentary,

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Speaker 3: And what effect is it having?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's basically the laws of physics. I mean, those

978
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 19: are just think of gliders. During World War Two, we

979
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 19: didn't have to necessarily put every paratrooper inside a airplane.

980
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 19: We could put them in a glider and have them

981
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 19: pulled along by another aircraft. The fact that they could

982
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 19: put them in a plane that size and fly low

983
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 19: out of the Russian air defense systems and the like.

984
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 19: They're quiet, likely run by electronics and not necessarily gas.

985
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 19: They don't make a lot of noise and because of

986
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 19: the size of them. Because of just plane physics, they

987
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 19: could gate the distance that they need to attack deep strike.

988
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 6: It's very primitive, you're absolutely right.

989
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 19: But it just shows the creativity on the Ukraine side

990
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 19: when it comes to the kinds of weapons that they're

991
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 19: creating in order to be disruptive on the battlefield and

992
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 19: to do what it can against Russia. I just actually

993
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 19: got back for a conference on a lot of things

994
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 19: drones and autonomous devices. The next battlefield is getting very

995
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 19: much looking like Terminator from the things that I saw

996
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 19: demonstrated with regard to this capabilities autonomous systems. It's not

997
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 19: just the simple drone as you and I have seen

998
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 19: that you have four propellers and flies above.

999
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 6: It's like that. It's like you say, what you've just shown.

1000
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 19: It's an air an old model airplane that's that's full

1001
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 19: of explosives that could go great distances. It's vehicles that

1002
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 19: don't have any that can transport things without any people

1003
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 19: transporting them. So it's it's pretty amazing where Ukraine has

1004
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 19: taken the United States in particular. So we're not a

1005
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 19: combatant in this, which is often difficult. We get lazy

1006
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 19: countries that are not combatants in these kinds of operations

1007
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 19: get lazy and don't recognize what they have to do

1008
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 19: to evolve, while the Ukraine has evolved and done these things.

1009
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 19: So we've got to pay close attention to make sure

1010
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 19: that our war fighting capability remains up to park, because

1011
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 19: this is what the next battlefield is going to look like.

1012
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: There's been talk that the Trump administration has reduced the

1013
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 3: number of weapons, the number of whether it's it's a

1014
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: patriot not necessarily a patriot conversation, but whether it's guns

1015
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 3: or whether it's missiles, reduced that number to Ukraine.

1016
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: And the original thought was.

1017
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: Was that this is trying to apply a pressure point

1018
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 3: to Ukraine to better come to the table and agree

1019
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 3: to more of what Russia wants, so we could say

1020
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 3: so Trump could say, got a deal, this is done,

1021
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: this is finished, We've got peace in our time. One

1022
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: of those kinds of conversations which never really ends.

1023
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 4: Well.

1024
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: Then you had Russia engaging to these drones flying into

1025
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: Polish airspace. The polls shot a bunch of them down,

1026
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 3: which I thought, again was Russia trying to say, listen,

1027
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: your going to give in to more of our demands

1028
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 3: and we're just going to keep this saber rattling up

1029
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: to the drones that were flying in Polish airspace and

1030
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 3: Poland invoking Article four, which is basically when you call

1031
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 3: your friends and you're like, are you ready to roll

1032
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 3: because we might have to roll? What is What was

1033
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: the response from Poland? And did that encourage and signal

1034
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: to you that Russia is trying to further saber rattle

1035
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: to get more concessions to put a quote unquote end

1036
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: to this war.

1037
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 16: No.

1038
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 6: I think that was a mistake.

1039
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 19: I think the Russians don't have full control over some

1040
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 19: of their autonomous systems. That's likely a mistake that does

1041
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 19: not further Russia's negotiating power on any level. In fact,

1042
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 19: it could also cause the NATO countries to increase what

1043
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 19: they're doing already. So that was a mistake that they made.

1044
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 19: They're trying to get close to the border. There's assets there,

1045
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 19: There's trains, train tracks and roads and cities that are

1046
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 19: in western Ukraine that Russia feels they have to do

1047
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 19: from a deep strike perspective.

1048
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 6: We've seen it before.

1049
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 19: We've seen some of their missiles go off off course

1050
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 19: and land inside the boundary there as well.

1051
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 6: I think that was a mistake.

1052
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 19: I don't think Russia is looking for, you know, try

1053
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 19: to saber rattle any more concession out of this.

1054
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 6: There's no more saber rattling to do.

1055
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 19: And I think right now the sticking point seems to

1056
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 19: be troops on the ground and what the future of

1057
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 19: Ukraine looks like.

1058
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: I allow me to push back on you on you

1059
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: start talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army

1060
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: military analyst, how can we say for Russia there's no

1061
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: more saber rattling to do. You sit there in the

1062
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: meeting with President Trump and angriage and anchorage, you say,

1063
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: you know this wouldn't happened if you were president. You

1064
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 3: leave the meeting, You're like, I don't care. You keep

1065
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: at it, you keep on the bombings. You do it

1066
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: with the rather indiscriminateness. You know Trump's going to be

1067
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 3: upset with you, You don't care. It would seem to

1068
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: me it's only a level of saber rattling and more

1069
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 3: aggression to be able to get more level of concession.

1070
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 4: That's yeah.

1071
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 19: I think the reason why I don't think so is

1072
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 19: because if it's not a repeated offense, if it's repeatable,

1073
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 19: and if they start doing it more and more, then

1074
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 19: I'll come back and agree with you. But I think

1075
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 19: this was a mistake that's made by a very imperfect

1076
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 19: country that can't negotiate many simple military tasks. They had

1077
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 19: a tremendous numerical advantage at the beginning of this. It's

1078
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 19: completely been squandered. This has been a tremendous cost of resources.

1079
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 19: So for the amount of volume that they're flying into Ukraine.

1080
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 19: From my perspective, this is an aberration that took just

1081
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 19: took place, a mistake because unless less you come back

1082
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 19: next week and it's been repeatable, then I'll agree with you.

1083
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 19: But it's not in their best interest to get NATO

1084
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 19: involved in the United States more involved and to do

1085
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 19: and from Russia's perspective, because Russia knows it would definitely lose,

1086
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 19: then well, I've.

1087
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 3: Got about thirty seconds with you, Sir, General Kellogg for

1088
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: the retired general now special Envoy and General Cain, the

1089
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. According to Kellogg, told the

1090
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,959
Speaker 3: President that Russia is losing this war.

1091
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 4: In your view, is Russia losing this war?

1092
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 19: No, they're not losing, because they're not. The behavior has

1093
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 19: not changed in order to stop it. They're not winning either.

1094
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 19: I mean, you've got winning and you've got not winning.

1095
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 19: You've got losing and not losing. So I put them

1096
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 19: in as they're not losing it and you neither as

1097
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 19: Ukraine they're not winning it either. As well as this

1098
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 19: to your point about World War One warfare that's taking

1099
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 19: place there with the trenches in regard to how the

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Speaker 19: situation is revolving. But the bottom line is Russia has

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Speaker 19: suffered tremendous casualty and tremendous costs. But also they're not stopping.

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Speaker 19: They're going to continue to do this, so they're losing.

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Speaker 19: Maybe strategically you can maybe say that they've not won yet,

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Speaker 19: but to say they're losing to the point where they're

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Speaker 19: going to negotiate, they're not going to do that.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, the oil fields and the refineries has shown a lot.

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Speaker 3: Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army appreciating with us.

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Speaker 4: More coming up.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, the mayor of Chicago, whom we all

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Speaker 3: know is a totally normal, well adjusted individual. He has

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Speaker 3: signed an executive order, and that executive order protects the

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Speaker 3: free speech rights of the residents of Chicago. What in

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Speaker 3: the heck is he talking about? What is he doing?

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz?

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, can you write about what a terrible

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Speaker 3: mayor he is? Keith, you write about what a bigoted

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Speaker 3: mayor he is?

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Speaker 4: Is that allowable? Why in the world would you would

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Speaker 4: you do this?

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Speaker 3: The executive order designated to protect the rights of the

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Speaker 3: city residents protesting the increased presence of federal immigration enforcement. Now,

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Speaker 3: I thought that this operation Midway Blitz wasn't really going

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Speaker 3: to go forward to the President decided, ay, if Chicago

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Speaker 3: is an interest in protecting itself, I'll go places where

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Speaker 3: they want to, which was the Memphis conversation.

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Speaker 4: The Mayor's like, how dare you?

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Speaker 3: But I've now got members of Congress saying to the FBI,

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Speaker 3: good on you. The governors are Republicans, like, yeah, we'll

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Speaker 3: take the help, which is of course the correct answer.

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Speaker 4: The craziest thing about Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Is that they had the opportunity after LORI Lightfoot to

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Speaker 3: elect somebody who was still on the left, but wasn't

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Speaker 3: Nutty seemed like a pretty focused cat.

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Speaker 4: Forgetting his name right now, and they.

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Speaker 3: Went with the quasi socialist Brandon Johnson, and I have

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Speaker 3: no faith that when the opportunity comes to have another

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Speaker 3: election that they won't do exactly the same. It's like

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Speaker 3: the New York conversation was arn Mundani. You had the

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Speaker 3: insanity of Bill de Blasio. We thought you were trying

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Speaker 3: to engage some level of self correction with Eric Adams,

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01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 3: and now you want Mamdani. These people don't learn. And

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Speaker 3: if you ask the Midwest, the question is why are

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 3: we supposed to care? I argue the only reason to

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Speaker 3: pay attention to care is that when progressive socialists win elections,

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Speaker 3: it encourages other people to run, and they're going to

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01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 3: run in your city. It's cheaper to run in your city.

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01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: They build on these things, and what we need is

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Speaker 3: for them to be thwarted.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, Do we care about what happens to

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Speaker 4: New York? Not really.

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01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 3: They're doing this to themselves, but when it comes to

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Speaker 3: our neighborhood, when it comes to your city, what do

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Speaker 3: you think? Then that's why we pay attention. This is

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Speaker 3: Tony Katx Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from Vaull Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. So if the Senate.

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Speaker 3: Hearing with FBI Director Cash Hotel wasn't clinically insane enough.

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Speaker 3: Now we've got the House at their oversight hearing taking

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Speaker 3: their turn, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good.

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Speaker 4: To be with you.

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Speaker 3: This is the House Judiciary Committee. They're hearing with the

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Speaker 3: FBI Director Cashpatel. And when we last left Cashpatel, he

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Speaker 3: was having a very genteel conversation with California Senator Adam Schiff.

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Speaker 5: No, I think the American people believe the truth that

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Speaker 5: I'm not in the weeds on the everyday movements, that.

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Speaker 17: What I am doing is protecting this country, providing the

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Speaker 17: historic affairs, and combatting the weaponovation of intelligence by the

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Speaker 17: likes of Europe. And we have caltlessly proven you to

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Speaker 17: be a lawyer in rustigate in January where brought to

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 17: every series to states trenit disgrace to this time and

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Speaker 17: an utter caun.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 20: I'm not surprised to continue to lie from.

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Speaker 18: Your party and put on.

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Speaker 4: A show of you. You can go raise money for

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Speaker 4: your char reason.

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Speaker 9: You are political buffoon at best.

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Speaker 20: Well, you can take that the FBI protected state side

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Speaker 20: of California storic report order.

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Speaker 21: But all you care about is a child sex predator

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Speaker 21: that was prosecuted by a prior administration and the Obama

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Speaker 21: Justice Department and the Biden Justice Department did squad?

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Speaker 20: And what did President Trump do? Bring new charges courageously?

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Speaker 4: And what have we done the most transferred FBI.

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Speaker 20: Director in history, thirty three thousand pages of information to.

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Speaker 21: You, I challenge you to say anything credibly to the truth.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead and run the cameras where you want.

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Speaker 12: To go next.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, that all went well. Honestly for many of you.

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Speaker 3: Reminded you of a family reunion that's Thanksgiving with your

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Speaker 3: progressive uncle. I expect the same level of insanity coming

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Speaker 3: from people like Jamie Raskin.

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Speaker 15: Are in shock to the brutal assassination of Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 15: in cold blood. And there is never any warrant for

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Speaker 15: political violence in America. And just as we all recoiled

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Speaker 15: together at the shocking assassination of Melissa Hortman and others

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Speaker 15: who died in that Minnesota attack, we all stand together

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Speaker 15: categorically against political violence in America and determined to end

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Speaker 15: you know, these cycles of political violence that have traumatized

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Speaker 15: the country.

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Speaker 3: I would say that's great, except why not call the

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Speaker 3: people on the political left who are cheering these things.

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Speaker 3: Why not call those people out? Jamie Raskin, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm almost pleased to should say to an extent, please

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Speaker 3: to hear him say such a thing. But why does

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Speaker 3: it have to connect to this one? Why does that

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Speaker 3: have to connect to that one? Why does it exist

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Speaker 3: on its own? The assassination of Charlie Kirk is an assassination.

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Speaker 3: The story in Minnesota, this woman who was killed, this politico,

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Speaker 3: we still don't have the whole story.

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Speaker 4: Who was this.

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Speaker 22: Guy who went to the home of Melissa Hortman, This

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Speaker 22: guy who was appointed by Tim Walls to two different

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Speaker 22: committees or appointed twice?

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Speaker 3: Was it to the same committee? By the way, luckily

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Speaker 3: another state senator survived.

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Speaker 4: Who is this dude.

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Speaker 3: Again, I don't use names right And what was his connections?

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Speaker 3: People want to say, well, he was a Trump supporter.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing that says, my gosh, he was there twenty

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Speaker 3: four to seven and was ginned up by Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: and by the political right to go out there and

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Speaker 3: attack this member of the Minnesota House. Basically she was

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Speaker 3: a state rep. Nothing, nothing, that's not real. What they're

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Speaker 3: trying to create is a level of equivocation between this

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Speaker 3: and Charlie Kirk, where it is clear, especially now that

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Speaker 3: we have seen the text messages of this guy and

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Speaker 3: his romantic partner, this man who was allegedly transitioning to

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Speaker 3: be a woman, even though you can't do that because

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Speaker 3: men are men and women are women, and.

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Speaker 4: You cannot become a woman. It's just not the way

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Speaker 4: it works. And that's not rude, by the way, that's

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Speaker 4: just fact. That's just fact.

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Speaker 3: You've got the conversations of eighty six forty seven by

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Speaker 3: James Comy. You've got the idea that if you don't

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Speaker 3: use the right pronoun you're denying the existence of trans

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Speaker 3: people and you're erasing them. You have everybody saying that

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump and MAGA and people on the political right,

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Speaker 3: they're a threat to democracy. There's a difference between these things.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we should deny what happened to Representative Hortman.

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Speaker 3: I think we should talk about it, and I want

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Speaker 3: to know more about that killer and what happened and

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Speaker 3: how we can prevent these things to the best of

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Speaker 3: our ability. Political assassinations have taken place in our past,

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Speaker 3: and they have taken place in history's past.

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Speaker 4: The assassin of Charlie Kirk was, by.

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Speaker 3: The way, one week ago today, one week ago today,

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Speaker 3: right about this time is when the news broke.

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Speaker 4: This was about.

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Speaker 3: Ginning up an entire segment of America to thinking that, Oh,

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Speaker 3: I can't live with that hate anymore. You mean he

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Speaker 3: disagreed with you, that's the hate. I think communists are

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01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 3: chock full of hate. Oh, by the way, they are.

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Speaker 3: They're also violence people. They're also murderous people.

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Speaker 4: They are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the history is just replete with examples, and

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Speaker 3: if taken.

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Speaker 4: To its end degree, that's what you get.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell me Venezuela is just some nice paradise while

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Speaker 3: they eat pigeons. There's a difference between these things that

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Speaker 3: we should say so, and I will not allow for

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Speaker 3: the equivocation.

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Speaker 4: So even when I hear Jamie Rousk can say these.

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Speaker 3: Things the congressman from Maryland, the progressive who was happy

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Speaker 3: to impeach Trump twice, who is a radical progressive, it

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Speaker 3: is moral equivocation, or it is a level of equivocation

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Speaker 3: to the idea.

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Speaker 4: Well, this was bad, but this was also bad. No

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Speaker 4: one is saying that.

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Speaker 3: The killing of Representative Hortman isn't bad. We talked about it,

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Speaker 3: but it is based on the fact different then what

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Speaker 3: happened to Charlie Kirk. They aren't equivalent things outside of

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Speaker 3: both people were killed. There is a question as to why.

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Speaker 3: Now you'll note that I don't think that the crime

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Speaker 3: is different. I say, charge both of these so called men,

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Speaker 3: And that's just because if you're going around killing people

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Speaker 3: you disagree with, what kind of man are you with?

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Speaker 4: Charge them.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's more of a I actually don't

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Speaker 3: think it's more of a crime because it's Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's more of a crime because it

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Speaker 3: is somebody who sits in political office. Although the law

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Speaker 3: might say that that is more of a crime, there

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Speaker 3: might be other charges that can be brought.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that you shouldn't prosecute them differently.

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Speaker 3: I am stating that what brought us to the place

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Speaker 3: is different, and if we don't acknowledge that, we will

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Speaker 3: never be able to engage the full and complete story.

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Speaker 4: And we need to. We have to. We don't have

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Speaker 4: an option.

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Speaker 3: If we don't, we are doomed a crazed person, which

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Speaker 3: does exist in our history. Going after this member of

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota House of representatives going after multiples. By the way,

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Speaker 3: because it was State Senator John Hoffman and his wife

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Speaker 3: who were shot and hospitalized, they survived. It was Melissa

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Speaker 3: Hortman and her husband Mark who were killed. That is

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Speaker 3: a different story than the Charlie Kirk story. The Charlie

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Speaker 3: Kirk story the assassin there is about left wing propagandizing

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Speaker 3: the story of the killer of Melissa Hortman.

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Speaker 4: I still don't have the full picture, and I don't

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Speaker 4: know why we don't have the full picture. I would

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Speaker 4: appreciate it, I think you would.

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Speaker 3: Federal charging documents describe the shooter as acting with quote

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Speaker 3: the intent to kill, injury, harass, and intimidate Minnesota legislators.

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Speaker 4: There was a list of.

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Speaker 3: People he wanted to go after, including elected officials and

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Speaker 3: abortion providers, pro abortion rights activists and lawmakers in Minnesota

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Speaker 3: and Wisconsin. And in his car flyers that said no Kings,

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Speaker 3: which is that anti Trump insanity. So my point to

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Speaker 3: you is, I still don't know about this dude. When

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Speaker 3: we find out more, we should discuss it. But it

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Speaker 3: doesn't take away from what we know about the assassin

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Speaker 3: of Charlie Kirk, who turned himself politically left who engaged

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Speaker 3: these left wing talking points and decided that Charlie Kirk

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01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 3: had too much hate and couldn't be reasoned with. Oh well,

1316
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 3: then that makes it all okay, So they're gonna now

1317
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 3: speak with Cash Ptent. Well, and if it's anything like

1318
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 3: what happened on the setate side, it should be very

1319
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 3: very interesting. Oh and if Cash Motel again says that

1320
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 3: the FBI has no proof that Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking

1321
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 3: women to people and that they don't have any names

1322
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: of people he trafficked them too, I'm still gonna say, Cashptel,

1323
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 3: FBI director, I flat out don't believe you.

1324
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 4: But that's just me. I'll wait you.

1325
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 3: Two, huh what do you know about that?

1326
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 4: Keep it here.

1327
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 3: This is Tony kats today in the all important spirit

1328
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 3: of full disclosure, or really, since I have nothing to disclose,

1329
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 3: of making sure we cover every story, understand what is

1330
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 3: being said, and understand what it means. Let's take a

1331
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 3: look at what happened at Evergreen High School. Tony Katz,

1332
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. There was

1333
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 3: a school shooting Evergreen High School. This in Colorado.

1334
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 4: This was on.

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01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 3: Was This was on September eleventh, where you had two

1336
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:16,440
Speaker 3: students injured and the shooter died of self inflicted gunshot wounds.

1337
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 3: That's how I have the story. There might be updates

1338
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 3: that I don't have. The shooter in this case, shot

1339
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 3: and wounded two students had reposted a photo of a

1340
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,480
Speaker 3: revolver and a box of ammunition two hours beforehand.

1341
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 4: Okay.

1342
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 3: Allegedly, hints of his intentions were left online leading up

1343
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: to the attack, for example, the revolver and the box

1344
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 3: of ammunition. This guy shared the photo on his ex

1345
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 3: account and on TikTok he posted images of a skull mask,

1346
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 3: a ballistic vest, and a knife with.

1347
01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 4: A Nordic rune drawing on it. And the only thing

1348
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 4: that I have.

1349
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 3: Here in this story is that that the Jefferson County

1350
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:18,919
Speaker 3: Sheriff's office said that the shooter was radicalized by extremists. Okay,

1351
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 3: do we know anything else? Do we know the extremists?

1352
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 3: Do we know anything? They're saying they're looking for a motive,

1353
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 3: but still don't have one yet. Now this is the

1354
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 3: reporting as of last week, a week ago from or

1355
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 3: a week lass Thursday. So I don't have anything more

1356
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 3: than what I'm sharing with you. But people want to say,

1357
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 3: you see this, this school shooting radicalized by the political right.

1358
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 3: Tell me more about the radicalized. Here's the Denver post.

1359
01:23:54,160 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 3: Radicalized Evergreen High School shooter appeared to hold anti Semitic,

1360
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 3: violent views and online accounts. I'm not so sure that's

1361
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 3: the political right when you say it like that. Social

1362
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 3: media accounts appear to connect beard to be connected to

1363
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 3: this shooter are littered with references to mass shootings and

1364
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 3: anti Semitic views. He was espousing white supremacist views online,

1365
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 3: showing an interest in mass shooters. If you want to

1366
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 3: make the argument that white supremacy is the most dangerous

1367
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 3: thing out there, you're more than welcome to do so.

1368
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 3: But no one follows that as fact. There's a difference

1369
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 3: between what I just said and whether or not someone

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01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 3: can be radicalized, because if we are honest people, we're

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01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 3: looking at this and saying, well, how do we stop

1372
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 3: people from being radicalized? How do we do that? When

1373
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: you tell me there's a guy here who believes in

1374
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 3: Holocaust denial, believes in going after Jews, doesn't make me think, man,

1375
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 3: the political right is terrible. I'm on the political right,

1376
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 3: and you already know where I come from. This guy

1377
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 3: was after me. He wasn't radicalized by me. But people

1378
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 3: are radicalized, weak people, sad, people looks looking, searching for

1379
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 3: something to blame, someone to blame, anything, to blame someone

1380
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 3: to hate. This does indeed happen, and we as a

1381
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: society should not think otherwise. We shouldn't say it doesn't happen,

1382
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 3: or it only happens in one way. That's nutty. The

1383
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 3: question is are we willing to say this is an issue?

1384
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 3: In no place does the political rights and you would

1385
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 3: have to point me to it where someone has gone

1386
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 3: about because they're avowed white supremacist, has the political rights.

1387
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 4: Said yeah, but we're not upset with him. That's not it,

1388
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 4: that's never it.

1389
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 3: Ever, when we talk about Charlie Kirk, he was assassinated

1390
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 3: and people said, good, who's next, let's make a list,

1391
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 3: and educators did it, and college professors did it, and

1392
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 3: people on the cultural scene did it, and politicos mocked, why,

1393
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 3: of what value?

1394
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 4: Of what purpose is such a thing.

1395
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 3: Except to say, we don't care when it's us, And

1396
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 3: that is not something that happens.

1397
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 4: From the political right.

1398
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 3: And one of the reasons I wanted to make sure

1399
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 3: I got to this story is because there is never

1400
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 3: a moment. We don't talk about everything everything, And I'm

1401
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 3: telling you right now, I still don't know everything about

1402
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 3: this story. I don't know everything about why this kid

1403
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 3: did this. Posting the Columbine shooters on some social media

1404
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,520
Speaker 3: depicted people in Nazi uniforms.

1405
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 4: I mean, it's really an awful, horrible, horrible story.

1406
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 3: And you don't see the political rights saying well it

1407
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 3: was okay or well he was just misunder said No,

1408
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 3: everyone should be saying this is ugly.

1409
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 4: The radicalization is ugly. The abuse of our children is ugly.

1410
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 4: It is.

1411
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 3: We should be proactive to stopping it, being aware of

1412
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 3: what's happening with our kids, being aware of what they're

1413
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 3: subjected to. Someone's gonna say, well, the problem is he

1414
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 3: had a gun.

1415
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 4: I think the.

1416
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 3: Problem is that he was given this line of nonsense

1417
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 3: to think, Hey, these people are the problem. I hate

1418
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 3: these people, so let's go attack people at the school,

1419
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 3: which if he was a Jew hating bigot, they weren't the.

1420
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 4: Problem at the school. I mean, it's just a weird

1421
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 4: target in that case. Maybe there's some more to the story.

1422
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 3: There's never a moment at all where we you and

1423
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 3: I are afraid of having the conversation in full completely.

1424
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: We're simply not afraid.

1425
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 4: To do it. It is important, it is valuable.

1426
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 3: We don't want schools having shooters, and I want schools protected.

1427
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 3: And I want armed guards at schools. If arm guards

1428
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 3: at jewelry stores, but not at schools. Some things are

1429
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 3: more precious than diamonds. Guys, Why this guy decides to

1430
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 3: shoot up a school? These are the things that we

1431
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 3: need to be addressing. These are the things we need

1432
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 3: to be focusing on. We need to be keeping an

1433
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 3: eye on how easy it is to access this nonsense,

1434
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 3: garbage information that poisons our kids.

1435
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 4: In the same way, we need to keep an eye

1436
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 4: on the way people.

1437
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 3: Access garbage nonsense like Hey, you're a man and you

1438
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 3: can become a woman and it's totally normal, and everybody

1439
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 3: should buy into it, and everybody should be should be

1440
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 3: supportive of your mental illness. No who amongst us is

1441
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 3: supportive of the mental illness of saying Group X is

1442
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 3: the root of all your problems in this case, what

1443
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 3: would be the difference between the radicalization of this sixteen

1444
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 3: year old and the radicalization of the assassin of Charlie Kirk.

1445
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 3: We shouldn't be saying one and not the other. But

1446
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 3: I will not allow for the diminishing or the diminution

1447
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 3: of what happened to Charlie Kirk. Not going to do

1448
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 3: it because the left doesn't want to accept the fact

1449
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 3: that mental illness is being propped up in America.

1450
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 4: It is by the political left, and they are wrong, and.

1451
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 3: It is destroying people, just like it did at Annunciation

1452
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 3: Church in that school, like it did in Nashville. These

1453
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 3: things are killing people, killing people. So how about we

1454
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 3: don't run to fiefdoms and we recognize that we've got

1455
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 3: an issue. You don't feed into mental illness by saying, oh,

1456
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 3: sure a boy can become a girl or a girl

1457
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 3: can become a boy.

1458
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 4: And you don't leave your kid just to wander the.

1459
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 3: Social media landscape without parental supervision.

1460
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 4: Let's start there.

1461
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today.

1462
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 4: Thing.

1463
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 11: This is way off the topic.

1464
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 3: But who has Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book?

1465
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 4: FBI?

1466
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 11: But who that is?

1467
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 5: I mean that's under direct control of the director of

1468
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 5: the FBI.

1469
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 15: All right, So you were sworn in his director more

1470
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 15: than two hundred days ago.

1471
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 11: Now the Black Book is under your direct control.

1472
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 15: I haven't you released the names of Epstein's co conspirators

1473
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 15: in the rape and sex trafficking of young women and girls.

1474
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 3: Now that's Jamie Raskin, the Progressive from Maryland.

1475
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 4: It's Cash Battel.

1476
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 3: Their House Judiciary committee that oversight hearing. The Senate hearing

1477
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 3: was so nuts. I wanted to bring it to you.

1478
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 3: I've just I haven't had a chance yet. We've been

1479
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 3: talking a lot. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to

1480
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 3: be with you.

1481
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 4: I'm no Jamie Raskin fan at all.

1482
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 3: I find him to be an objectionable person, and certainly

1483
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 3: the work he did on impeachments over nothing should be

1484
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 3: disqualifying for him to be re elected. Shame on the

1485
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 3: people of Maryland. But it was Cash Fattel. He was

1486
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 3: on there with Glenn Beck a few years back saying

1487
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 3: that the FBI director has the black book, which is

1488
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 3: to say, the information about who it is that was

1489
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:02,520
Speaker 3: being sex trafficked, human trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein, Glenne Maxwell,

1490
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 3: and we don't know who else. Which is the information

1491
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 3: we want? I want the information. I have always wanted

1492
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 3: the information. When President Trump said stop paying attention to this,

1493
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 3: I said he was wrong. I saw people on the

1494
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 3: political right, radio hosts and commentators, quote unquote, influencers and

1495
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 3: others say we shouldn't be paying attention to this. Trump

1496
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 3: doesn't want us to pay attention to this. This doesn't matter.

1497
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 3: It absolutely does matter. It is always mattered. And again

1498
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 3: I will say to you that Attorney General Pam Bondi

1499
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 3: screwed this all up.

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01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1501
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 3: Cash Battel, the FBI director, has done himself favors. But

1502
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 3: he hasn't. I don't think he has been as a

1503
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 3: lot of people, especially after the investigation into who assassinated

1504
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk.

1505
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 4: Oh, what terrible, awful job. I don't feel that way.

1506
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 3: I think I think that Cashptel gets himself a little

1507
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,839
Speaker 3: too emotional at times. I think Cashptel gets himself into

1508
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 3: certain levels of too much intensity at times on the

1509
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 3: wrong subjects. And I think that he has come across

1510
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 3: flustered before. I think that that is true. But I

1511
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 3: don't think it's the end of days with cash butelit.

1512
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 3: I think that's just a weird take. I think it's

1513
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 3: a weird argument that people see it that way, But they.

1514
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 4: Do, and and and I leave them to it. I

1515
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 4: I don't.

1516
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 3: But when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, I just can't

1517
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 3: find myself believing what it is that I hear, like

1518
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 3: yesterday in that Senate hearing, that they're the the FBI

1519
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 3: has no information that would show who.

1520
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking. Uh these young women too.

1521
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I can't buy into this. But this becomes

1522
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 3: a very interesting conversation between cash Betel and Representative Raskin

1523
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 3: about whether or not Raskin is listening or is just

1524
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 3: desperate for the SoundBite for whatever television commercial he's now

1525
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 3: going to put out so he can raise money. So

1526
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,520
Speaker 3: great example of what's happening in these hearings, why Americans

1527
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 3: tune out in such great measure, and why I bring

1528
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 3: them to you here so you can hear it for yourself.

1529
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 3: I swear to you to me, every single part of this,

1530
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 3: in every single way, is nothing more than a public

1531
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 3: service announcement at this stage of the game, because if

1532
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 3: you don't hear it for yourself, you won't know, and

1533
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 3: learning is half the battle. There's no one who can

1534
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 3: say it better than the way they.

1535
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 4: Go through this.

1536
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 3: So this was the question from Jamie Raskin, if you

1537
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 3: have control of this black book. Why don't you release

1538
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 3: the information about the Black Book?

1539
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 5: The rolodex, which is what everybody colloquially refers to as

1540
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 5: the Black Book, has been released.

1541
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 15: Oh, I know you're talking about with the journalist got

1542
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 15: five years ago. No, that's not what we're talking about.

1543
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 15: We're talking about what you were talking about there, black

1544
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 15: book under the direct control of the FBI director.

1545
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 5: We have released more material than anyone else before the

1546
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 5: Biden administration Obama administration of the exact opportunities to release

1547
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 5: this material, they never did.

1548
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 9: And if you are.

1549
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 5: Selling the men and women the FB, why are not

1550
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 5: going after child Hang on, you said we're not going

1551
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 5: after child predators? Fifteen hundred child predators arrested this year

1552
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 5: thirty five percent forty seven hundred child.

1553
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 15: May you're true and I'm going to reclaim my time

1554
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:24,719
Speaker 15: if you could instruct the witness.

1555
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 11: Why have you changed your position there?

1556
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 15: You were saying it's under the direct control of the

1557
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 15: FBI director and all of it should be released.

1558
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 5: Why did you think that has been lawfully permitted to

1559
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 5: be released has been released? And as I told you,

1560
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 5: really the investigation was limited.

1561
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 9: And let me make something Crystal clear.

1562
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 5: I never said Jeffrey Epstein didn't traffic other people, other women,

1563
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 5: and they're not other victims.

1564
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 9: This is the investigation we were given.

1565
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 5: From two thousand and six seven to eight, and the

1566
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 5: search warrant from two thousand and six seven and eight.

1567
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 9: That's what we're working with.

1568
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 15: Wait, have you released all the stuff that the FBI

1569
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 15: has seized from Epstein's house?

1570
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 4: Now?

1571
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 3: Wait a second. Now this might be news to people,

1572
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 3: and it's interesting to hear they are still investigating the

1573
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 3: crimes based on the warrants of Then you mean nothing

1574
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 3: new has been established created an opportunity to investigate this

1575
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 3: case better?

1576
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 4: Does that make sense to anyone? Because it doesn't make

1577
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 4: sense to me. Walk me through it.

1578
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 3: Somebody who understands the legal aspects here or understands the

1579
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 3: workings of the FBI or warrants. Why haven't we No

1580
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 3: other administration did anything to be able to help this

1581
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 3: case along. They just said, well, we don't actually want

1582
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 3: to know the information. We want to slow roll this,

1583
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 3: so therefore don't. This is very very odd stuff. I

1584
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 3: found that to be a bit shocking.

1585
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 15: It continues, the computers, the emails, the filecap evidence, the documents.

1586
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:02,679
Speaker 11: What about the financial records.

1587
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 9: Have you released all of that everything the court has

1588
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 9: allowed us to?

1589
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 11: Which order are you talking about?

1590
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 5: Three separate federal courts have come in and said, we're talking.

1591
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 11: About the evidence you've got. It's got nothing to do

1592
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 11: with what those courts.

1593
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 9: Do you have anything talking about the law works? Do

1594
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 9: you want me to break the law in a federal

1595
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 9: judge's order?

1596
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 11: No, I want you to follow your own word, Director Patel.

1597
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 15: You said up there it was under the direct control

1598
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:25,839
Speaker 15: of the FBI director.

1599
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:26,759
Speaker 11: He had the black.

1600
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 5: Everything we have direct control over, we have gone to court.

1601
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 4: You haven't complete your sentence.

1602
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 11: Everything you have direct control over.

1603
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 5: You said, have gone to court, and everything we.

1604
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 11: Have directed complete. You said everything.

1605
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 9: Release, they're releasing. You'd like to complete his answer.

1606
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 4: We'd like for him to complete his answer as well,

1607
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 4: and he did.

1608
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 3: It's just Jamie Raskin was talking so much, talked right over.

1609
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 4: Him, and they're going to go over it.

1610
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 3: You released everything that you were lawfully allowed to release,

1611
01:37:55,640 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 3: weight everything, every I I have issue with everything.

1612
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 4: But this is the argument that's being made. Everything they

1613
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 4: can lawfully release.

1614
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 3: And Jamie Raskin, the congressman from Maryland Democrat, clearly doesn't

1615
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 3: want to hear this.

1616
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 4: And I think at some moment he's.

1617
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 3: Purposely talking over purposely acting obtuse. But they get into

1618
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 3: this what did you know and when did you know it? Conversation.

1619
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 15: You began the sentence everything you have direct control over I,

1620
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 15: and then you stop that sentence.

1621
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 11: You've released everything that you have direct control over I.

1622
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 5: Have direct control over and can lawfully release. If you're

1623
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 5: not familiar with the court orders, that's not my fault.

1624
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 15: Oh, I'm perp looking at that amiliar with them. But

1625
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 15: how did we prosecute Glaine Maxwell?

1626
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 5: She was prosecuted with the investigatory material that was collected

1627
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 5: from two thousand and one and two thousand and five.

1628
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 5: Because of the non prosecution agreements and the court orders

1629
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 5: on the investigations and search warnes, we were not able

1630
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 5: to develop new information. And oh, by the way, Jeffrey

1631
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 5: Epstein was out for twelve years and the Obama and

1632
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 5: Biden administration did nothing to look at his work, his

1633
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 5: pedophile network. If you want to blame me, that's fine,

1634
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 5: But now you're blaming the men and women who conduct

1635
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 5: this sits.

1636
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 11: That I'm not blaming anybody other than you.

1637
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 15: You're not keeping your word, you said that you would

1638
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 15: release all of the materials.

1639
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 9: That anyone release more information on Epstein.

1640
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 12: Than I have.

1641
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 3: That's not the argument, Director Patel, and we would say

1642
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 3: that it's not enough, even if you want to argue

1643
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 3: it's more. But Jamie Raskin is not engaged in the

1644
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 3: honest conversation. If the courts say you can't release it,

1645
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 3: it can't be released. I may disagree with it, You

1646
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 3: may disagree with it, but we would understand that there

1647
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 3: is this court order and there.

1648
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 4: Could be reasons for it.

1649
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 3: There are innocent people involved, et cetera. But that's that

1650
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 3: would be okay, frustrating. But whether or not you've released

1651
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,799
Speaker 3: more than anybody else is inconsequential to whether or not.

1652
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 4: There has been a lack of release.

1653
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 3: But still I go back to Representative Raskin, who refuses

1654
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 3: to acknowledge that there might be court saying, sorry, doesn't

1655
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 3: matter what you want.

1656
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 4: We have a rule of law here, and this is

1657
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 4: what you can have anyone.

1658
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 15: Much more, much more, excuse me, much more has come

1659
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 15: out in the days since the American people in Congress

1660
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 15: have been demanding it. But it's coming out in dribs

1661
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 15: and drabs. Why don't you just release the entire file

1662
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 15: as you promised to do.

1663
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 5: I literally just told you there are multiple federal court orders.

1664
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:31,480
Speaker 5: I'm not going to break the law to satisfy your curiosity.

1665
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,839
Speaker 5: You didn't join us when we filed courts to release

1666
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 5: the court orders. You could have, you have lawyers, you

1667
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 5: could have shown up.

1668
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 9: You didn't do that.

1669
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 11: That's a tiny fraction of the material. Where's how do

1670
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,600
Speaker 11: you know that? Have you seen everything? And it's all misdirected.

1671
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 3: It's all misdirection I want more information released, but I

1672
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 3: don't know how to look at cash but tell and

1673
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 3: not think that. He didn't answer the question there directly.

1674
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 3: His argument is that the courts won't let us know.

1675
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 3: If you want to argue that the courts do actually

1676
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 3: let you, well, that's a different argument altogether. And Jamie

1677
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 3: Raskin could have made it, but he didn't. Now later

1678
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 3: in the hearing, after Representative Dan Goldman, you know Dan Goleman,

1679
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 3: he always looks like he's he's a Democrat, and he

1680
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 3: always looks like when he's like on TV he's doing

1681
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 3: a hostage video, his face is expressionless. And he was

1682
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:31,440
Speaker 3: also an impeachment manager, not my guy in the slightest.

1683
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 3: He asked the same nonsensical questions. You don't understand the

1684
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 3: court orders. You don't understand this, you don't understand that.

1685
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 3: You are oversight. If you think that the courts are

1686
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 3: giving him permission to share things today, he's not sharing.

1687
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 3: You can go make that case. But no one is

1688
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 3: actually making that case. They're kind of hinting around it.

1689
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,759
Speaker 3: Go make that case to the court to better explain

1690
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 3: their position.

1691
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 4: I mean, Dan.

1692
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 3: Goleman referred to cash hotel as part of the cover up.

1693
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 3: I think that there's information we're not getting. Don't get

1694
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 3: me wrong. I think we have to stay a foot

1695
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 3: to the floor on that. But if you want to

1696
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 3: say that the courts are allowing you to share stuff,

1697
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 3: you're not sharing. Oh my gosh, Congressmen get on it.

1698
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 3: But they don't seem to be doing that. It's all

1699
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 3: you're not reading, you're not understanding the court properly. Go

1700
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 3: force the court to tell them to give us the info.

1701
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 3: And then after Goldman, it went to the chairman of

1702
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 3: the House Judiciary Committee, that would be Representative Jim Jordan

1703
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 3: of Ohio.

1704
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 4: And Jim Jordan was like, Hey, let me ask you

1705
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 4: a question.

1706
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 9: Director yes or no.

1707
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,759
Speaker 18: Is the FBI still spying on parents and school board meetings?

1708
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:41,679
Speaker 4: No, sir.

1709
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:43,600
Speaker 9: Is the FBI still targeting Catholics?

1710
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 4: No, sir.

1711
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 9: Is the FBI still spying on President Trumpone? I don't

1712
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 9: believe so. Is the FBI still censoring Americans? No, sir.

1713
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 18: Is the FBI still targeting Americans for shopping at cabellas

1714
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:56,759
Speaker 18: or purchasing bibles?

1715
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 9: Nobody has targeted for their faith. Is the FBI still

1716
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 9: targeting Americans who are pro life? Nobody is targeting anyone

1717
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 9: for their beliefs. The FBI is still cooking the books

1718
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 9: on crime data. The crime data is real.

1719
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 18: Is the FBI still purging agents for conservative viewpoints?

1720
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 9: No one at the FBI has asked their viewpoints.

1721
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 18: Is the FBI still labeling the Betsy Ross flag the

1722
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 18: flag of the American Revolution, a hate symbol?

1723
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 17: No?

1724
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 18: Well, maybe that's why you've been able to what was

1725
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 18: the number, twenty.

1726
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 9: Three thousand bad guys.

1727
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,799
Speaker 18: You've arrested a huge increase from the same time period

1728
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 18: in the previous administration. I think you said fourteen hundred predators,

1729
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 18: four thousand children rescued.

1730
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 11: Those were those effects.

1731
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 5: Forty seven hundred and thirty five percent increase on children rescued.

1732
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 18: Yeah, and you got the guy to Abby Gate.

1733
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 9: The we got the Abby gay guy.

1734
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 18: The guy from the fourth District of Ohio lost his

1735
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,679
Speaker 18: life there serving our country. We appreciate that maybe when

1736
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 18: you're not focused on politics, you can actually do what.

1737
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 9: The FBI is supposed to do. Go get the bad guys, right,

1738
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 9: That's what the men and women of the FBI do.

1739
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 3: It's a good reminder in all of this that there

1740
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,600
Speaker 3: is a lot law enforcement wise that's being done. The

1741
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 3: stuff that, yes, this is what I voted for, and

1742
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 3: I have no issue with Representative Jordan or Cash Fattel

1743
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 3: touting those things.

1744
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 4: And sharing those things. When it comes to.

1745
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein, I leave it here. There may be things

1746
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 3: you can't share, and I accept this, but I do

1747
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 3: not believe that everything that can be shared is being shared.

1748
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 4: I don't believe that's the case.

1749
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 3: But I think that Raskin and Goldman their approach is

1750
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 3: just how can we create sound bites? And for us,

1751
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 3: we want data because people who abuse children need to

1752
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 3: be in jail, no matter who they are, no matter

1753
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 3: their political party, no matter their political connections, no matter

1754
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 3: how much money they have We cannot abide a society

1755
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 3: that abuses kids. We have to find them and they

1756
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 3: have to go to jail. I'm Tony Katz and this

1757
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:13,759
Speaker 3: is Tony Kats today. Stepping away from Epstein, we find

1758
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 3: that Jerry of Ben and Jerry's is quit.

1759
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 4: I still won't eat their ice cream. No, no, no, no, no,

1760
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 4: these self hating freaks.

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Speaker 3: Good gosh, Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, Good to be

1762
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:34,839
Speaker 3: with you. Ben and Jerry's the ice cream purchased by Unilever,

1763
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 3: and they, if there's a social commentary to make that

1764
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 3: is clearly on the wrong side of decency and humanity.

1765
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 4: Ben and Jerry are there to make it.

1766
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 3: Happen, but Jerry is leaving the brand because Unilever won't

1767
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 3: let them speak out. I don't think anybody has stopped

1768
01:45:53,560 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 3: you from being so embarrassing, so horrifically shameful. Certainly, whether

1769
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 3: I argue it on the subject of Israel or a

1770
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 3: host of other subjects, there seemingly is a real issue

1771
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 3: with people who you took the money of the other company, right.

1772
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 3: No one said you couldn't donate to causes, No one

1773
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:24,719
Speaker 3: said that you couldn't engage in levels of private life.

1774
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 4: No one was stopping you, but you were attacking the brand.

1775
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 4: You were doing.

1776
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 3: Damage to the brand, and the job was not to

1777
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 3: do damage to the brand. You took the money and

1778
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 3: then you said, how dare you.

1779
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 4: Give me all that money.

1780
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 3: It's a very odd take in my view, but I'll

1781
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 3: be very happy to hear much less of Jerry, and

1782
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 3: I don't mind hearing much less of them. They've been

1783
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 3: on the wrong side of rational thought for far too long.

1784
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 3: Find everything at Tony Katz dot com tomorrow everyone, take care,

1785
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Speaker 3: m and mana