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Speaker 2: Well, the raid on John Bolton's house I did not expect.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that that's, you know, surprising. How

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Speaker 2: a good time to have my Spanish inquisition stuff. Nope,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, good to be with you. For what

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Speaker 2: Bolton was not detained. Bolton has not been charged. This

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Speaker 2: began about seven am Eastern Time Friday, ordered by the

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Speaker 2: director of the FBI cast would tell this all. According

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Speaker 2: the beginning. Others have confirmed it that this involves the

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Speaker 2: handling of classified documents. Now, before we do anything when

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Speaker 2: it comes to classified documents, we overclassify freaking everything in

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Speaker 4: You have a big deal briefman. Probably today.

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Speaker 6: What we've seen is FBI agents and FBI windbreakers and

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Speaker 7: But this does feel, as we heard Mary McCord talking

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Speaker 2: What norm is broken? Was the norm broken when you

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Speaker 2: This is an investigation. The FBI does them all the time.

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Speaker 9: Look, I think today is the first day that the

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Speaker 2: And that's what you're thinking. This all so boring. Wait

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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing. They don't stop, they don't rest, they don't quit.

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Speaker 2: I always get it wrong. Krishna Murphy, Well, I think

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Speaker 2: do things all the time. For what reason was John

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Speaker 2: that's the way you want to live your life, it's fine,

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Speaker 2: But I'm telling you that's a terrible way to live

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Speaker 2: your life. Count me out. I'm Tony Kats giving you

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Speaker 2: actual information. This is Tony Katz Today. Some people have

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Speaker 2: noticed that the markets are just exceptional. Right now, Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats Today. Good to be with you. Right some

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Speaker 2: a Friday at around twelve pm Eastern time, and the

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Speaker 2: Show me the data that that challenges that. We could

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, this was not on the

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Speaker 2: It's a good opportunity for me to discuss why everybody

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Speaker 2: basically stole our logo because it's the name cracker Barrel

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Speaker 2: that's kind of funny. I'll go with that company on company.

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Speaker 2: I'll appreciate it. People are upset. Oh they went whoke.

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Speaker 2: Oh they went awful. First, they changed the lugo. They

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Mark knowser doesn't know. I'm just

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Speaker 2: isn't that right? Isn't that right? Michael Walsh, the screenwriter,

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Speaker 2: how the Democrats they never sleep, they never rest, right,

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Speaker 2: believe that a deal can be made, he may want

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Speaker 2: to make a deal, but this is Vladimir Putin saying

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Speaker 2: I'm not interested. It's very obvious and very clear. So

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Speaker 2: could this be a response to that? Trump engaging in

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Speaker 2: any level of military response would be a story, and

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Speaker 2: a very large one. I don't know if that's what

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Speaker 2: this is. How does that affect how one creates a deal?

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Speaker 2: How do you engage a piece? Does it mean, Okay,

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Speaker 2: We're now going to give a lot more support to Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: have a nice day. Remember believes and we said this

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Speaker 2: before the summit, he doesn't have to stop. He can

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Speaker 2: outlast Ukraine. And yes, the Russians can out last Ukraine

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Speaker 2: and he could take the whole of Ukraine. He can't.

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Speaker 2: He can outlast these people. You would need a level

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Speaker 2: of a force to keep at bay. You would need

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Speaker 2: a peacekeeping force willing to fire at Russian skulls east

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Speaker 2: of Kiev. Are the Europeans in for this well? I

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Speaker 2: would argue that they are recognizing that the buffer is necessary. Now.

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Speaker 2: They still have some issues in terms of dependence of

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Speaker 2: from European nations on Russia for energy, etc. And then

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Speaker 2: you have Russia and the alliance with China, and of

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Speaker 2: course we discussed the issues regarding India yesterday. As China

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Speaker 2: moves aggressively in the Pacific, trying to further their hegemonic hold,

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Speaker 2: putting the Philippines at risk, putting Taiwan risk, as we

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Speaker 2: already know, signaling as they did earlier this week in

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Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal reporting it that they look forward

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Speaker 2: to reunifying with Taiwan. Taiwan does not look forward to

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Speaker 2: reunifying with China, because reunifying comes via the barrel of

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Speaker 2: a gun. So where does one keep one's time is

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Speaker 2: certainly a question. Do you keep it in this eastern

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Speaker 2: part of Europe and to Russia? Do you keep it

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Speaker 2: in the Pacific, keeping an eye on what China's doing.

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Speaker 2: If you take the listen to people like a deputy secretary,

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Speaker 2: I believe at Deputy Secretary Albert Colby and others, the

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Speaker 2: only place to be looking is China. That's said, everything

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Speaker 2: else is nonsense. It doesn't even matter, It doesn't count.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that nothing else counts. Certainly you could

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Speaker 2: rank things. I don't believe that it just doesn't count.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't matter. I think that's I think that's

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Speaker 2: shortsighted in a very very real way. But when you

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Speaker 2: are Trump and you're trying to make this deal, and

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Speaker 2: it's very obvious that Putin isn't going to make a deal,

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Speaker 2: and Putin doesn't care if he makes a deal, and

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Speaker 2: he'll lie to your face. We argued here that no

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Speaker 2: rational person trusts Putin. You can't do it. Trump, I think,

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Speaker 2: believes that Putin wants a deal. But Putin wants a

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Speaker 2: deal on his terms, and he's going to keep going

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Speaker 2: until he gets it on his terms. This involves, of course,

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Speaker 2: the land, and as we stated, Europe is now come

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Speaker 2: around to the idea that they're going to tell Ukraine

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Speaker 2: you're going to have to give up something, and Ukraine

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Speaker 2: might be very well aware of this and accepting of

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Speaker 2: this to get the peace keeping force to keep the

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Speaker 2: Russians at base so they can live their lives. This

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Speaker 2: is the calculus. Change is Wait, you went after a

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Speaker 2: US facility, you knew what it was. Okay, well, now

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Speaker 2: you get nothing. We're gonna fortify this peacekeeping force. You're

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Speaker 2: not gonning any land. We're gonna push it back to

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Speaker 2: owning seventeen percent of this land. And that's it. Because

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Speaker 2: we should be clear, the United States military could destroy

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Speaker 2: the Russian military in forty two seconds. Destroy them. Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm one of the few people who believes that the

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Speaker 2: US military can do the exact same thing to China.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I'm on an island here. Maybe not,

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Speaker 2: because maybe it's just not an openly discussed subject. I

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Speaker 2: absolutely believe that the Chinese military is a paper tiger

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Speaker 2: that when met with a direct punch to the nose,

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Speaker 2: they will collapse. That everything is play, everything is pretend,

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Speaker 2: nothing is real because they've never had a bullet fired

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Speaker 2: at them, and they actually think, through dear leader, that

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Speaker 2: somehow they are invincible, that they are destiny, your only destiny.

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Speaker 2: Until the gunfire comes back at you. Then you're a target.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference between the two things. When your destiny,

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Speaker 2: everybody gets to survive into seeing the great tomorrow. When

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Speaker 2: you're the target, well let's see if you survive the day.

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Speaker 2: I believe that true about the Chinese military. But it

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Speaker 2: could be that this is what this address from the

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Speaker 2: Oval is about. Maybe not you have the raid on

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Speaker 2: John Bolton's home, the former National Security advisor, the former

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Speaker 2: ambassador to the UN. Could be about that, could be

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Speaker 2: about something we have not thought of. Could be good news,

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00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: could be bad news, could be an updating of America,

510
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Speaker 2: a whole host of subjects. Maybe he's going to announce

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Speaker 2: a trade deal. We'll have it here. But on this

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Speaker 2: story of Russia in Ukraine, Putin cannot be trusted. Putin

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Speaker 2: could never be trusted. And if Putin is looking for

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Speaker 2: a response, it doesn't mean we should necessarily give it

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Speaker 2: to him. Maybe that response should come later when Russia

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Speaker 2: is not ready for it. We will see find everything

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Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com much more to get to

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Speaker 2: keep it here Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: The President addressing America from the Oval Office. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: it's not.

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Speaker 10: About Russia, you see.

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Speaker 2: It's not about world conflict. It's about the world's common years,

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Speaker 2: Tony kat Tony Katz today, let's take it to the president.

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Speaker 11: Zero murders in the last week since we've done this,

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Speaker 11: since the first time in memory that that's happened, and

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Speaker 11: you can believe it pathetic.

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Speaker 10: That is not to even say it.

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Speaker 11: And I'm dying of listening to these people say how

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Speaker 11: safe it was before we got here. It was unsafe.

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Speaker 11: It was horrible. And Bowser better get her acts straight

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Speaker 11: or she won't be very very long because we'll take

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Speaker 11: it over.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I am I don't know who's messing

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Speaker 2: with the volume there from the White House, but this

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Speaker 2: is not good. He's wearing the Trump was right about

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Speaker 2: everything hat he is talking about. And it was first

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Speaker 2: he was saw making the announcement regarding World's Cup and

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Speaker 2: selection and what's going to be happening at the Kennedy Center.

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Speaker 2: Then it became a conversation about d c oh home

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Speaker 2: now the not national seat. That's just it. I went through.

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Speaker 2: It could be this, It could be that I don't

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Speaker 2: know what he's gonna say, but what he does, we'll

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Speaker 2: bring it to you. And this was actually but oh,

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Speaker 2: the Washington you see, let's see, can you guys hear

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Speaker 2: this well?

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Speaker 10: And I'm sure you'll be happy to hear that too. Actually, yes,

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Speaker 10: but that's a whole different place. People are excited again.

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Speaker 10: They're going out to restaurants again. That was the other thing.

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Speaker 11: I saw numbers that restaurant business is down in the

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Speaker 11: last week.

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Speaker 10: Of restaurant business. You can't get into a restaurant just

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Speaker 10: really lying people.

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Speaker 11: And that's why people don't understand how bad and how

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Speaker 11: dishonest the press is. I saw one poll that had,

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Speaker 11: I said, nineteen percent favorable on what we're doing with Washington.

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Speaker 11: Then I saw another one as this ninety four percent favorable.

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Speaker 11: And I can figure that ninety four percent is correct.

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Speaker 11: The others are fake, just fake. They got to get

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Speaker 11: their act together. So bad for our country, so sick. Actually,

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Speaker 11: so Washington, n DC is really doing unbelievably well. And

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Speaker 11: the Kennedy Senator that we're fixed, I was just there

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Speaker 11: all morning with the contractors, will make it anbelieve.

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Speaker 10: It's going to be unbelievable.

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Speaker 11: It's got great bones, but it needs a lot of work.

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Speaker 11: The World Cup droll will set up the group stage

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Speaker 11: of competition, Forty eight teams will play at one hundred

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Speaker 11: and four games and put US sixteen North American cities

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Speaker 11: from Seattle to.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to slow it down right now. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to let the President talk about the World

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Speaker 2: Cup for a little bit, and if he's going to

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Speaker 2: do a Q and A, I want to hear it now.

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Speaker 2: I've got the volume pumped as loud as I can

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Speaker 2: and land and I'm going to leave the rest to

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Speaker 2: you there if you can pump it up. When we

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Speaker 2: bring it back to him, I will argue that he's

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Speaker 2: interested in the World's Cup because he's interested in putting

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Speaker 2: America on that stage. Look what we could do. This

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Speaker 2: is kind of it. And then of course you got

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Speaker 2: the Olympics regarding Los Angeles and everything else. While this

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Speaker 2: is there was a story that I think has gotten

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Speaker 2: mostly unnoticed about how the State Department is reviewing all

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Speaker 2: fifty five million visas in the US and people are

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Speaker 2: in violation are going to be sent out. Good fantastic.

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Speaker 2: First of all, fifty five million people have valid visas.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of an amazing number. I mean crazy number.

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Speaker 2: And you're going to be looking at social media, looking

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Speaker 2: at a whole host of things, and these people are

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Speaker 2: in violation, They're gone. I voted for this, and I

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Speaker 2: would argue you voted for this too, well, most of you.

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Speaker 2: And I want to make sure that we're always on

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Speaker 2: the right page and on the same page, and we

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Speaker 2: are never allowing other people to try and change the book.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about illegal immigration. We're always talking about illegal immigration.

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Speaker 2: Legal all down with legal immigration, opposed to illegal immigration

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Speaker 2: and illegal immigrants. People have broken the law, people have

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Speaker 2: engaged in any level of criminal activity or on American activity,

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Speaker 2: as illegal immigrants, they have to go gone, goodbye, see

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Speaker 2: you later. I think we're all down for that. When

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Speaker 2: the left wants to have this argument, they never do.

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Speaker 2: They always talk about immigrants, or they talk about immigration

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Speaker 2: as a whole. But that's not the subject. So I

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Speaker 2: want to know what leftist it has an issue with

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Speaker 2: the removal of illegal immigrants. If you use the word

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Speaker 2: immigrant or or you use the word migrant. We sought

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Speaker 2: the conversation. We're talking about people who are here illegally.

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Speaker 2: A review of all fifty five million first of all,

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Speaker 2: has a giant number. But yeah, good, fantastic. Take it

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Speaker 2: back to President Trump as Jade Vance is right next

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Speaker 2: to him, and Rick Grnell is.

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Speaker 10: There, huge impact and as sockwalking his way out.

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Speaker 2: No one's wearing a tie. Everybody's tieless today.

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Speaker 10: To you, it's economy.

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Speaker 11: I went Tony Cat as an American jobs, no sporting event,

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Speaker 11: a treks, more attention and more fans or anything else, and.

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Speaker 10: I just looked forward to the draw.

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Speaker 11: So we're going to have the draw essentially Johnny at

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Speaker 11: the Kennedy Center, and.

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Speaker 10: By that time it'll be an even better shape. We're

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Speaker 10: working on it and take it's about it's about a

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Speaker 10: year project to make it. It'll be great. It'll be fantastic.

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Speaker 10: You see the way this is looking to look nice.

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Speaker 11: I can't tell you how much that gold thoughts a

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Speaker 11: lot of money.

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Speaker 10: There's nothing like gold, and there's nothing like solid gold.

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Speaker 10: But this, this beautiful office, needed that it'll be representative.

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Speaker 10: When we took it over, it was dirty, not clean.

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Speaker 11: I immediately changed the chair and had this beautiful desk

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Speaker 11: renovated and brought up by the White.

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Speaker 10: House people that do this. They did a great job.

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Speaker 10: Said that that we have a craft.

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Speaker 8: So who's great God?

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Speaker 11: But this was not appropriate for the Oval Office when

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Speaker 11: I took over. And now you look at all those bakings.

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Speaker 11: You're allowed to turn better. All of these are great presidents,

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Speaker 11: and they were all in the volts. They were in

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Speaker 11: volts from in some cases much more than a hundred years.

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Speaker 11: And now they're proudly hanging on the Oval Office walls.

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Speaker 11: And I can't imagine anybody changing it, but they were.

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Speaker 11: They were buried in bolts.

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Speaker 2: Oh trust me, mister president. And the next president's totally

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Speaker 2: gonna change. That's happening. If the president starts taking questions,

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Speaker 2: I'll bring it to you. Keep it here. This is

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 10: They had a twenty year reduction of crime. It's worse.

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Speaker 10: It was worse administration.

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Speaker 2: So President Trump is still in the Oval. They're talking

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Speaker 2: about the World Cup. The FIFA president shared with him

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Speaker 2: the FIFA World Cup trophy, which is right now just

652
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Speaker 2: sitting in front of him. He's like, oh, this is

653
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Speaker 2: a lot of gold. You know, it look really good

654
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Speaker 2: on the wall right there, right there next to the eagles,

655
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Speaker 2: and it looks it looks just great. I think he

656
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: was serious. Tony Katz Tony Kats today. Good to be

657
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Speaker 2: with you. The Vice President is there, Rick Cornell is there.

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Speaker 2: A Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Nome is there. The

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Speaker 2: people are there, and the FIFA president just moved the

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Speaker 2: trophy out of the way so the cameras will be

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Speaker 2: unobstructed looking for them. At the President, the President answered

662
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Speaker 2: questions about DC safety and security, host of other things.

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Speaker 2: Let's take it back to it.

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Speaker 10: You can get a reservation, which I doubt they want.

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Speaker 2: Full of the restaurant.

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Speaker 11: I know they're all full. I heard that too. The

667
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Speaker 11: restaurants aren't. The restaurants since we are doing this, are

668
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Speaker 11: doing great, and many new restaurants are going to open because,

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Speaker 11: as you know, many clothes, many restaurants close because the crime.

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Speaker 4: Was so bad.

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Speaker 10: This will be one of the safest places anywhere on earth.

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Speaker 11: So you know, I really, I really am honored that

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Speaker 11: the National Guard.

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Speaker 2: Has anybody's noticing working. Noble's wearing a roll up States.

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Speaker 11: And we haven't had to bring in the regular military,

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Speaker 11: which we're willing.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're wearing.

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Speaker 11: And after we do this, we'll go to another location

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Speaker 11: and we'll make it safe.

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Speaker 4: All So we're going to make our country very safe.

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Speaker 10: We're going to make our cities very very safe.

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Speaker 4: Chicago's a mess.

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Speaker 11: You have an incompetent mayor grossly incompetent, and we'll straighten.

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Speaker 10: That one out probably next. That'll be our next one

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Speaker 10: after this, and it won't even be tough.

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Speaker 11: And the people in Chicago, mister Vice President, are screaming

687
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Speaker 11: for us to come. They're wearing red hats, just like

688
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Speaker 11: this one, but they're wearing red hats. African American ladies,

689
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Speaker 11: beautiful ladies, are saying, please, President Trump, come to Chicago.

690
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Speaker 11: Please sit great with the black vote, as you know,

691
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Speaker 11: and they want something to happen.

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Speaker 10: So I think Chicago will be our next, and then we'll.

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Speaker 11: Help with New York, and we're going to help with

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Speaker 11: I think, really, I think a lot of and a

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Speaker 11: lot of these people that you see on television, they are.

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Speaker 10: Including the people in this audience.

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Speaker 11: They'll say bad things about me, and then they'll say,

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Speaker 11: thank god he's here, because half of them got mugged

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Speaker 11: and they.

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Speaker 10: Don't want to get mugged again.

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Speaker 11: But they're you know, they work for a ladder, They

702
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Speaker 11: work for stupid people at a radical left. And then

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Speaker 11: I hate to do things and say things that they

704
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Speaker 11: don't want to be saying.

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Speaker 10: But the people right here are all happy because.

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Speaker 11: You're not going to be mugged in Washington, DC anymore.

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Speaker 10: I just want to.

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Speaker 11: Say, Johnny, it's been my friend for a long time.

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Speaker 11: He's an incredible guy, and we will lay out the

710
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Speaker 11: red cognet. Andrew, You're going to be fantastic. Rick is

711
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 11: going to be everything. Rick ever touched, has always worked out,

712
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Speaker 11: and he's working with me at the Kennedy Center. And

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Speaker 11: his very good friend was an actor and broad away

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Speaker 11: for five years.

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Speaker 4: Right, and I assume he's helping.

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Speaker 11: Us a little bit, right, Yes, and Andrew, you're all

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Speaker 11: excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely like to say something.

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Speaker 12: This is a great opportunity to mister President to show

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Speaker 12: off the first two hundred and fifty years of the

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Speaker 12: United States of America, the greatness and then the hope

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Speaker 12: and promise of the next two hundred and fifty years.

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Speaker 12: When you think this world come, he's going to be

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Speaker 12: over our two hundred and fiftieth birthday.

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Speaker 2: Mister President.

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Speaker 12: You're leadership obviously with FIFA leading away. This is the

727
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Speaker 12: largest sporting event in the history.

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Speaker 10: Of the world.

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Speaker 2: Under the Trumble administration, so very excited.

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Speaker 11: I just want to say one thing, Andrew Juliani, So

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Speaker 11: his father is Rudy the greatest mayor in the history

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Speaker 11: of New York.

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Speaker 2: I think by far.

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Speaker 11: He took a ravage city, a city that was really

735
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Speaker 11: under siege, probably most people thought it was going to survive.

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Speaker 11: He turned it around. He was a great, great mayor.

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Speaker 11: And then they treated it very, very unfairly. You go

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Speaker 11: back and tell your father all of the things that

739
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 11: have come out over the last couple of months, through

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Speaker 11: Tulsi and through all of the people, Cash, everybody, they've

741
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Speaker 11: proven your father one hundred percent correct. His father was

742
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 11: treated so unfairly. Your father has been one hundred percent correct,

743
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 11: and tell them we all love him. Okay, think it's

744
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 11: worth an amazing.

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Speaker 2: What that is outrageously personal and an incredible statement because

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Speaker 2: with Rudy Giuliani, certainly we could talk about the changes

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Speaker 2: to New York under him, and then we can get

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Speaker 2: into the concepts of what he did when he was

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Speaker 2: working with President Trump. Not everything was perfect. So that

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Speaker 2: is a statement of try of rehabilitation.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Speaking there to Andrew Giuliani, who is working on the

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Speaker 2: Kennedy Center right with things with with viver World's Cup.

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Speaker 2: That is a really large statement being made there, a

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Speaker 2: supportive statement of Giuliani because it's the first time I've

756
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Speaker 2: seen President Trump speak of Rudy Giuliani in two years

757
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: maybe more. Now the vice president is speaking.

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Speaker 7: Back if their leadership is willing to put in the

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Speaker 7: time and the resources.

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Speaker 2: Mister President, you've shown to Washington, DC that we can

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Speaker 2: have safe streets again. We've just got to have the

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Speaker 2: political willpower to focus on.

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Speaker 12: The bad guys and to give the American people back

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Speaker 12: their communities.

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Speaker 8: We are focused on doing that thanks to the President's leadership.

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Speaker 10: Thank you. And that's a really very small percentage.

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Speaker 4: It's two percent, three percent, but that two percent and.

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Speaker 10: Three percent reeks just havoc throughout a community are petrified.

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Speaker 10: And I noticed a couple of the women in the

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Speaker 10: back are shaking their head. Yes, yes, yes, I won't

771
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Speaker 10: report who you are because you'll end up losing.

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Speaker 11: Your jobs, but it's true.

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Speaker 10: It's amazing.

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Speaker 11: And the police and you look at the DC National Guard.

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Speaker 11: I saw pictures of them last night getting off vans

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Speaker 11: and all.

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Speaker 10: And I saw some bed ones running.

778
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Speaker 4: But they're not running so much anywhere.

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Speaker 10: They're not there. They're just not even they're not even

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Speaker 10: join you. You're totally safe. Now. There'll be something happening sometime.

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Speaker 10: I don't know, maybe it won't be for a long time.

782
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Speaker 11: But this was every night would get reports of people

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Speaker 11: being mugged and kid that. There's one woman on television

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Speaker 11: last night. She had a badly busted up nose and

785
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Speaker 11: she's water like our streets the way they used to be,

786
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Speaker 11: and she thinks it's going to happen by doing nothing.

787
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Speaker 10: And they said, what happened to you knows?

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Speaker 11: She got slugged by a guy walking down the streets,

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Speaker 11: slugged and those will never be the same. I guarantee

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Speaker 11: you listen unless it takes a pretty good turn. She

791
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 11: wasn't really for us, but she sort of said, well,

792
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Speaker 11: maybe something has to happen.

793
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Speaker 10: Before this happened to me.

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Speaker 11: She got wet, and I don't think she'll ever be

795
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Speaker 11: the same she was, She almost became.

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Speaker 10: She was a half a Trump fan, a woman that

797
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 10: would have never finished Trump fan, but she was. She

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Speaker 10: was hit hard. It's not gonna happen anymore, not gonna

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Speaker 10: happen anymore. But then we're gonna beautify, beautify the city too.

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Speaker 10: That's where I was today at Kennedy Center.

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Speaker 11: And we're going to beautify the city like it has

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Speaker 11: And we're working with Clark Construction, the biggest construction company

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Speaker 11: in Chicago, and uh in Chicago and Washington.

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Speaker 13: And the head of Clark is glad he's all over

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Speaker 13: the world actually, but Washington, I would say, is they home.

806
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Speaker 13: That's where they do the best work, the biggest work,

807
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Speaker 13: and they're doing They've been.

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Speaker 10: Doing a fantastic job.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have.

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Speaker 11: A fantastic, clean, beautiful place. It's going to be better

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Speaker 11: than it ever was before. Literally better than it ever

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Speaker 11: was before. We'll get it done very quick. I don't

813
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Speaker 11: want to thank Clark because they are doing a lot

814
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Speaker 11: of work.

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Speaker 2: He has was bragging about the cleanup, bragging about what

816
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Speaker 2: they're doing in DC, and it's that is a bold

817
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Speaker 2: move because you have to be able to show success,

818
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Speaker 2: you have to have the success to back it up.

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Speaker 2: And so when when these these news organizations put out,

820
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Speaker 2: well only eighteen percent agree, eighty percent don't like what

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Speaker 2: Trump's doing, the number was so outrageously ridiculous it became

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Speaker 2: unbelievable from the word go, impossible to believe that eighty

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Speaker 2: percent of DC was like no, no, no, get out of DC.

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Speaker 2: We preferred the crime ridden. That's that's crazy town. That

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Speaker 2: is a crazy, crazy thought. Why would Democrats go down

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Speaker 2: this road? And right now the FIFA director President giving

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Speaker 2: President Trump his ticket to attend the final Man.

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Speaker 10: Tickets that's Row one, one seven million tickets.

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Speaker 2: President Donald Truyn's would enjoy with a recreate July nineteenth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 10: You're going to do record business. I think Christy would

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Speaker 10: got to say so.

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Speaker 14: And mister President, millions of people will come to this

834
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Speaker 14: country and will make sure they get their travel documents,

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Speaker 14: their visas that they want to come here and spend

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Speaker 14: their money and enjoy the sporting event.

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Speaker 8: It'll be the largest event.

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Speaker 14: In the world.

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Speaker 10: And through you're reminding me.

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Speaker 8: Of something that my dad used to say all.

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Speaker 10: The time when I was growing up.

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Speaker 14: He would say, Christy, you kids need to look like you.

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Speaker 2: Respect yourself before anybody's.

844
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Speaker 4: Going to respect you.

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Speaker 14: And in this country, when people look at our streets,

846
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Speaker 14: when they look at our capital, you're bringing respect back

847
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Speaker 14: to the city and people will respect our country more

848
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Speaker 14: because it's safe, it's clean, it's beautiful, and what you're

849
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Speaker 14: doing is transforming this nation by making sure that our

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Speaker 14: laws are upheld and millions.

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Speaker 8: Of people are going to come and be able to

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Speaker 8: enjoy it next year.

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Speaker 2: That's the whole concept regarding broken windows. When you don't

854
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Speaker 2: clean up the blight, it its the the discontent, it

855
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:09,959
Speaker 2: breeds the discord. It matters you show and you put

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00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: forward a cleanliness, You put forward a standard, and then

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00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: you make people uphold the standard. Why is it that

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Speaker 2: Chick fil a is so successful in terms of it's

859
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Speaker 2: how it treats customers and McDonald's is so reviled. It's

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Speaker 2: the standard. Here's what we do, this is what we expect,

861
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Speaker 2: this is what we uphold, and you either live up

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Speaker 2: to it or you don't. So there is something to that.

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Speaker 2: And this is true when when you see states talking

864
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: about their big cities, their capital cities and them being

865
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: a problem. People don't like the fact that how the

866
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: capital of the state goes, that state very often goes

867
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: in that direction. But it is true. It's not to

868
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: be denied, it's to be embraced. It doesn't mean that

869
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: the capital city is the only city. It means that

870
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 2: you want that showplace to work and to be successful

871
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: and to and to provide that vision that then is

872
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: seen as well than the rest of the state must

873
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: be like this. That stuff matters, It matters greatly. So

874
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: the president is gonna continue talking about FEVA. I can't believe.

875
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: By the way, the ticket number, did you guys see this?

876
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: The ticket number is forty five slash forty seven down

877
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: there at the bottom left, forty five forty seven. Oh

878
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 2: that's well done. Whoever made that well done? Well played

879
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 2: right there. While this is going on, I don't know

880
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 2: if the President's going to be answering questions much longer.

881
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: We will move forward. The Democrats got some weird advice,

882
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: fascinating advice about things not to say. If you really

883
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: want to connect with people, don't say these things. The problem,

884
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: of course, is that if they are to be listened

885
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: to this think tank, if they're to be listened to

886
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: and you Democrats say, okay, we won't say these things,

887
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: Democrats wouldn't be able to say anything at all. We're

888
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: talking about all the favorite buzzwords, all the favorite catchphrases,

889
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: all the ways they go after you and attack you

890
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: and villa fly the nation. It's it's something I'm going

891
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: to share that list with you, along with what happened

892
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: on the campaign trail of a lieutenant governor running for

893
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 2: governor of Virginia named Win some sears you will think

894
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 2: I made it up. I just don't have this level

895
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: of insidiousness, not a progressive more to get to keep

896
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: it here. This is Tony Katz today. So Democrats are

897
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 2: trying to figure out ways to win. Really, they're trying

898
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: to figure out ways to connect with the American people

899
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: that might give them ways to win because to some

900
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: as we were discussing this yesterday with Ed Morrissey, they

901
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. But as we also said,

902
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: it's not that they're dumb, and you have to at

903
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: least appreciate that if you're going to have the honest

904
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: conversation about what's happening. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good

905
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: to be with you. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com.

906
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: We should be clear that what we're seeing from the

907
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: party leadership is insane, but not everybody who works with

908
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party is some kind of fool. They under

909
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: stand the basic problem. What they haven't figured out is

910
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 2: how to deal with the basic problem. And what they

911
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: keep coming back to is a playbook that provides them

912
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: no value. Everybody's a racist, everybody's a bigot, everybody's a sexist.

913
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: Trump is a fascist. This doesn't move the needle, but

914
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: it does make their base happy. So they're in this

915
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: weird kind of situation. What is their plan? And their

916
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: plan is to make their base happy because that can

917
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: help their feed them and their own dollars. It doesn't

918
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: necessarily mean winning elections, and we've proven America has proven

919
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean winning elections. And you take a look

920
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: at that story about how you have this unbelievable drop,

921
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: this decline in registrations with the Democratic Party and this

922
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: increase with the Republican Party that is attributable to this playbook.

923
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: They keep utilizing the way they hate Americans and the

924
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: American way of life. But it's what their base more

925
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 2: and more clings to. We discussed this many times. They

926
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: created this monster, this hateful, vicious brain run from the hate.

927
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: Monster that must feed on the hate. If you don't

928
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: deliver it, they will turn on you. Just ask Richie Torres,

929
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: Just ask John Fetterman, because they said, you know what,

930
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: Israel's the right to survive? Ask anybody who isn't completely

931
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: on board with every progressive thing. Every single day you

932
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: will be destroyed by the monster that they indeed have created.

933
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: But there are some people trying to figure out how

934
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: do you reach voters, how do you build this thing?

935
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: Because while they feed the monster, the number of monsters

936
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: get smaller and smaller. The diehards remain, certainly people who

937
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: are violent and want to shoot at the president and

938
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: all these things. But you don't attract new people to

939
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: your party, So how do you do that? So there

940
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: is a group third way. It's a center left thing tank.

941
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: This is reported by Politico by Dacsha Burns and Adam Wren.

942
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: Adam Wren also lives in the Indianapolis area. I think

943
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: one of the lowest of the low. I mean he

944
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: for his first years, anytime he could try and pick

945
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: a fight, anytime he could try and it belate just

946
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: a jerk's jerk. Now he was first to the beat

947
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: a Pete Boudha judge. He beat every national player, he

948
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: beat him all in covering then the mayor of South Bend.

949
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: But just not a reporter, a political person. And that's it,

950
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: and that's that. I try not to engage. But he

951
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: wrote this, and I'm sharing the story. I want you

952
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: to know who he is. Dasha Burns. You've already seen

953
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: numerous times she came over from I believe it was NBC.

954
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: So they're working on this group called Third Way is

955
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: working on words that may connect with Americans, ways that

956
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: they can connect with voters. And so they've got a

957
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: list of forty five words and phrases that they want

958
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: Democrats to avoid using because the terms quote put a

959
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: wall between us and everyday people of all races, religions,

960
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: and ethnicities. So here is the list. These are the

961
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: terms that are blacklisted. Don't use these terms. Privilege, violence, dialoguing, triggering, othering, microaggression,

962
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: holding space, body shaming, subverting norms, systems of oppression, cultural appropriation,

963
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: overton window, existential threat to the climate, democracy, economy, radical transparency, stakeholder,

964
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: the unhoused, food insecurity, housing insecurity, person who immigrated, birthing

965
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: person cisgender dead naming, heteronormative patriarchy LGBDQIA plus, bipoc allyeship,

966
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: incarcerated people, involuntary confinement. Basically, what Third Way is telling

967
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party is to throw out all the language

968
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: that they know how to use and simply become mimes.

969
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: If you just went the way of Marcel Marceau, then

970
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: you could get people to vote for you. Oh my gosh,

971
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: every term that you and I have been mocking and

972
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: ridiculing and laughing at, every term that has been used

973
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: to attack us and try and shame us, this group

974
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 2: is saying, yeah, don't do that. It turns off voters. Yes,

975
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: we've been telling you this for years. You should have

976
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: just listened, but you didn't listen. You kept coming at us.

977
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: And now you've got a group saying, do away with

978
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: these things, these nonsense of bull crap terms, except what

979
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 2: they're arguing for is outrageously insidious. What this group is

980
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: saying is don't use the words they didn't say. America

981
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: isn't interested in these things, so they won't use the words.

982
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: They'll come up with new words, new phrases, new slogans,

983
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: new ways of packaging. But what they want is always

984
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: the same. How they'll treat you is always the same.

985
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: So do not find yourself listening to some new phrases

986
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, I guess, I guess they've really changed.

987
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: Nothing proves that, Nothing proves that. But yes, when you're

988
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: talking about dead naming, heteronormative in the patriarchy. You sound

989
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: like a crazy person. If your name was Steve and

990
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: you now call yourself Cheryl and someone calls you Steve,

991
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: they didn't commit a crime. And if you think they

992
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: committed a crime, if those people think they committed a crime,

993
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: to those people, you're ridiculous and you need to calm down.

994
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: You're not so special. Stop being so offended. You make

995
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: us all ill with your garbage, and we want to

996
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: tell you to kiss off. So kiss off. Uh. I

997
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: guess those easier than I thought. But yeah, this terminology thing.

998
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: If they can't use these words, what are they going

999
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,959
Speaker 2: to do? They can't say anything. They're gonna be left

1000
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: with reaching out to voters to interpret dance. I wasn't

1001
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: kidding about the mime stuff and what happens when they

1002
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: don't say the words, they simply write them. Have you

1003
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: seen the story about Winsome Sears. Winsome winsme. That's her name, Winsome,

1004
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: last name Sears. She is the Lieutenant governor of Virginia. Oh,

1005
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 2: she is something else. I've had her on the show.

1006
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: It's been a few years. Terrific. She is a black woman,

1007
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: lieutenant governor. Great, great personal story, and she is somebody

1008
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: who is completely and totally unafraid. She's a conservative. She

1009
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: knows the difference between right and wrong, she knows the

1010
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: difference between good and evil, and she is not interested

1011
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 2: in the claptrap nonsense, and she is absolutely willing to

1012
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: say what is that needs to be said, like, for example,

1013
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: are you so gentlemen? It is time for the answer

1014
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: and sanity to stop.

1015
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 14: It is time for everyone to recognize what is settled truth.

1016
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: Girls or girls and boys are boys? Yep? Just that easy.

1017
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: Now understand that I think that Justice Katanji Brown Jackson

1018
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: should never been allowed on the Supreme Court because she

1019
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't answer what is a woman that's not somebody qualified

1020
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: to be on the court. And she has proven, I

1021
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 2: think every single day that she's on the Court, that

1022
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: she's engaged in these arguments from just the brutality that

1023
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: she has taken from her fellow justices on the political

1024
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: right and on her political left, she is not qualified.

1025
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 2: She was never smart enough. She thinks that her feelings matter,

1026
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: and I'm telling you right now, her feelings don't matter

1027
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: at all. The feelings of a guy named Steve when

1028
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: wants to be called Cheryl, don't matter to me at all.

1029
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: If I'm being told I have to change the way

1030
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: I live for Cheryl. You can call yourself Cheryl all

1031
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: you want. You just can't get me to call you

1032
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: she or her. If you're a man, and I know

1033
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: you're a man, I'm gonna say that. And if you

1034
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: think I have to change the way I speak for you,

1035
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: well you don't have that kind of power over me.

1036
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: Go to hell. You're not special, Which is exactly this

1037
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: conversation here, that boys are boys and girls are girls.

1038
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 2: The Washington Times was reporting that you have men who

1039
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: think they're women. They want to fight to be sure

1040
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,959
Speaker 2: to be able to participate in women's sports. Three male

1041
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: born college students prevented from competing against women have filed

1042
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: lawsuits against the NCAA and it's small school counterpart in

1043
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: the National Association of Interscholastic Athletes, the NAIA. Yeah you

1044
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 2: do that, No one cares. You don't have any right

1045
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: at all to play in women's sports because you don't

1046
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: have the right to call yourself a woman because you're

1047
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: not and you will never be. That is not said

1048
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 2: with anger, That is said as a matter of fact,

1049
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: I have no personal interest in the person. I have

1050
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: no personal interested in attacking them, harming them, shaming them, anything.

1051
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: But I have no interest in society being subverted for

1052
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: their issues, which are indeed mental issues. As gender dysphoria

1053
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: is a condition, as discussed in DSM five the Diagnostic

1054
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: the Diagnostic Manual for the American Psychiatric Association. This is

1055
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: what they use to say. Okay, what are the classifications

1056
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: of mental disorders? Gender dysphoria is in there. And it's

1057
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 2: not my job, nor is it my want, nor is

1058
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: it smart to feed into people's mental issues. They need help,

1059
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: they need support, they need love, not me going along

1060
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: with their lives. I won't do it. I'm not interested

1061
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: if they're offended by those facts. I'm not interested. If

1062
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: they think they should be able to compete against women,

1063
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: the answer is no, and I think we should fight

1064
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: if that's what it's gonna take to protect women in

1065
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: sports and protect society writ large. Okay, to the transgender

1066
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: community to the extent that even exists, I'm not telling

1067
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: you you can't live as you see fit. I may

1068
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: not understand it. I wish you well in terms of

1069
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 2: the mental issues you can do this, but you just

1070
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: can't do it by interfering with other people. You're not special.

1071
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: I'm surprised nobody's told you this by now. But you're not.

1072
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Speaker 2: You're not special, you're not more important, you're not more deserving.

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,479
Speaker 2: Don't tell me if I don't do this, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: kill yourself. Stop it. Get the mental help you need.

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 2: Stop threatening people into doing what you want or threatening

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Speaker 2: self harm. It's disgusting, it's immoral. I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: sit here and let you be a moral because somehow

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01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 2: that's the right thing to do. It's not the right

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01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: thing to do, and liberals who push that are wrong

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Speaker 2: and despicable. I'm not going to stand for it. I

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Speaker 2: understand you're not going to stand for it. And we're

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01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: right and theyre wrong. And that's that simple, simple stuff.

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Speaker 2: Winso Seers understands this. She says, boys are boys and

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Speaker 2: girls are girls at an event where they're protesting winsome

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Speaker 2: Seers in Virginia. Remember, these are the people who don't

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Speaker 2: know how to talk to Americans and get them on

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01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: their side. And the advice they're being given is shut up,

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01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: don't say any of the things. You guys always say

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Speaker 2: you sound like freaks, because they are. At this a

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Speaker 2: protest of winsome Seers is of course all these privileged

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Speaker 2: white people I see. I use one of their terms,

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Speaker 2: but it happens to be accurate, and of course a

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Speaker 2: bunch of older white people, because it always is, and

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Speaker 2: specifically white women. I have argued that liberal white women

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Speaker 2: are the worst, and I apologize for nothing, but really

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Speaker 2: it's that liberalism is such a disease that rocks the mind.

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01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: Hate rocks the brain. They can't think, and a liberal

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Speaker 2: white women are the most easily guilted into nonsense. One

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Speaker 2: woman is holding a sign. She's holding a sign, and

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Speaker 2: at first I thought the sign was AI, so I

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Speaker 2: had to double check signs real. The sign reads, Hey Winsome,

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Speaker 2: that's her name, wins Sears the lieutenant governor of Virginia,

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Speaker 2: Hey Winsome. If trans can't share your bathroom, then blacks

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Speaker 2: can't share my water fountain. That is a sign that

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Speaker 2: a white woman held up to a black woman in

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Speaker 2: the United States of America in twenty twenty five. For

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Speaker 2: the people over there at the consulting firm. Third Way,

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01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: you think your terminology is a problem, now you might

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01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 2: have to write up a whole directive about signs. This

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01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: is KKK kind of stuff. This woman's wearing a white

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Speaker 2: T shirt. All she's missing is the hood. If brands

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01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 2: can't share your bathroom, then blacks can't share my water fountain,

1113
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:08,839
Speaker 2: says the Democratic Party. The idea that you even connect

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Speaker 2: those two is so criminally insane. I don't often put

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Speaker 2: a people who are black in one group together as

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01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: a monolith. I think that's weird. But I gotta assume

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Speaker 2: as the monolith if you're comparing the plight quote unquote

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Speaker 2: of trans people in America to black people in America. Ho, Ho,

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Speaker 2: give me the popcorn. I just want to have a

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Speaker 2: front row seat while black people go, oh really and

1121
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: then what comes next? Oh? That could be a reality show.

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Speaker 2: I would pay extra for it. My god, that would

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Speaker 2: be amazing, amazing. I cannot wait to see it. The

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Speaker 2: left can't talk, the left can't meme, the left can't connect,

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01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 2: and every time they try, they look crazy or they

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 2: show their bigotry. I don't know what they're playing is.

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Speaker 2: I know that election day is November third, twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: and we got to keep working hard to win because

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Speaker 2: these people, these hateful people, they can't be allowed public

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Speaker 2: office ever. Keep it here. It's Tony Katz today. I'm

1131
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Speaker 2: not sharing the information because I care about the California

1132
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Speaker 2: governor's race, but that I think it's going to be

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Speaker 2: interesting to watch. Tony Katz, Tony kats Today, Good to

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Speaker 2: be with you. Gavin Newsom termed out. So you've got

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of people running, and they do a

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01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: whole weird system in California because they don't want people

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Speaker 2: actually being able to decide between two parties. So you've

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Speaker 2: got all these people running, and the former congresswoman Katie

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Speaker 2: Porter who ran for Senate and lost the primary to

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Speaker 2: Adam Shipp who is now the Senator. Amazing, she leads

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Speaker 2: with twenty one percent. Then you've got a Republican, a

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Speaker 2: Riverside County sheriff named Chad Bianco at fifteen percent. Former

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Speaker 2: Fox News host Steve Hilton, who I hear very good

1144
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Speaker 2: things about a ten percent. Then you've got Jabervisarah, former

1145
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Speaker 2: Health and Human Services secretary, the former mayor of Los Angeles,

1146
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Speaker 2: both at nine percent, and it goes from there. The

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Speaker 2: reason we're going to pay attention to this story is

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Speaker 2: we're going to see if Californians learned anything, are they

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01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: interested in doing better or not? By the way, the Republicans,

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Speaker 2: the two Republicans at the top, they're the only two

1151
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 2: Republicans running. They're at a total twenty five percent. So

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01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 2: Republicans are right now outpacing the democrat the top Democrat.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they would outpace all Democrats. So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna watch to see if they learned or if

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Speaker 2: they just want to keep on failing. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz together.

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Speaker 1: Live from Vaal Hartbyer and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Can you have peace with Vladimir Putin? And does peace

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Speaker 2: come through a summit or does peace come by saying, hey,

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01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: here's all our bombs. We've got more than you now,

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Speaker 2: can we get this done? And if that's the case,

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01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: exactly when does that happen? Because the B fifty you

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01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: fly over, while it was very very nice, didn't seem

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Speaker 2: to do the trick knowing that a misslo attack on

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Speaker 2: Ukraine just next to the Slovakia border hit a US

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Speaker 2: owned business. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to be

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Speaker 2: with you. Major Mike Lyons joins me right now. Retired

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Speaker 2: United States Army West Point is where he does the

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Speaker 2: work military analysts to see him all over your cable dial.

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Speaker 2: He is our guy. First, let's get into the conversation

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Speaker 2: about summits themselves. The political left want to say that

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01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: Trump got played like a fiddle. The political right want

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Speaker 2: to say, look how much strength Trump had. I look

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Speaker 2: at the between Trump and Putin, They're in anchorage, and

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Speaker 2: I say, all right, this is very much a Trump

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Speaker 2: thing to do. Look a guy in the eye, try

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Speaker 2: and get it done. Remind you of how much hardware

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Speaker 2: we have. What are we doing? What was your take

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Speaker 2: on the summit?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, probably that Tony. I think that this is Donald

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Speaker 15: Trump the art of the deal. It has to again

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Speaker 15: look him in the eye and propose something out there

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Speaker 15: and get a feel for what's going on.

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Speaker 8: He I think he said a low expectation going in.

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Speaker 15: He said, if he'll know in the first five or

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Speaker 15: ten seconds whether or not we'll get a deal or not.

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Speaker 15: I think he felt comfortable with whatever Putin said to him,

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Speaker 15: and I think that, you know, he continued to go

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Speaker 15: down that path enough where did definitely put the political

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Speaker 15: left on as heels by saying it was a failure.

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Speaker 15: But you know, they over the weekend pretty much administration

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Speaker 15: Marco Rubio, as they went on the Sunday morning programs,

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Speaker 15: they all kind of buttoned up and said we have to,

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Speaker 15: you know, find out what the next steps were. And

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Speaker 15: then we saw the European leaders show up Monday right away.

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Speaker 15: That was pretty interesting as well. Who specifically was at

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Speaker 15: that meeting with the president talking about the summit Europe

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Speaker 15: backing up President Trump. So I thowt it got off

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Speaker 15: to a good start last week with Friday with the meeting.

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Speaker 15: I thought it was the right thing to do, and

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Speaker 15: then when Europe shows up to backstop it, I thought

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Speaker 15: was very important. I mean, it was definitely a different

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Speaker 15: vibe and it looked like there was a lot of momentum.

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Speaker 15: But as summits have historically shown, they can fall apart

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Speaker 15: quickly as well.

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Speaker 2: And to that point, it is interesting you were discussing

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Speaker 2: him a little bit before we started recording that. As

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Speaker 2: I noted, the left was opposed. Look how you're elevating

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Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin. He's a murder of this and that, yes,

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Speaker 2: but he's the warring party and Trump is not a

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Speaker 2: fan of war. He really has a fundamental issue with

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Speaker 2: it in every single way. He tries to end it

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't understand its value. It's important. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: see anything in there that makes sense. He wants to

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Speaker 2: be this peace president. That seems very, very obvious. So

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Speaker 2: he has the meeting. But to that end, it brings

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Speaker 2: up a larger conversation about meetings. We take a look

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Speaker 2: at Russian US relations and we think of Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 2: and Mikhail Gorbachev in regumick, right. We think of that

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Speaker 2: meeting where here Gorbachev shows up in nine coats and

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Speaker 2: a fur hat, and here's Reagan in a suit because

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Speaker 2: he's wearing thermal underwear. And that was that visual was

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Speaker 2: the end of the game. Yeah, talk to me about

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Speaker 2: summits in general and how you think they work over history.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that that initial meeting failed, as we know that

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Speaker 15: when Reagan said you could have said yes when he

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Speaker 15: proposed something, and it had that mostly had to do

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Speaker 15: with nuclear treaties. But eventually more meetings came about and

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Speaker 15: the fact remained that they were able to get something

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Speaker 15: done finally, but that initial one failed.

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Speaker 8: But if you look back in history, go back.

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Speaker 15: To World War Two when large when major power leaders

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Speaker 15: got together, and I think look from the Vietnam War

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Speaker 15: when they tried to do different summits the United States

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Speaker 15: and Russia in particular in fifties, Eisenhower had a Geneva

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Speaker 15: Summer to try to figure out how to deal with

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Speaker 15: the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 8: Back then at the time.

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Speaker 15: But the bottom line is just for them to be successful,

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Speaker 15: they have to have clear up objectives, clear expectations as

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Speaker 15: to what's going on. They have to be written down

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Speaker 15: usually so everybody knows what they are and they're transparent

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Speaker 15: in that manner.

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Speaker 8: But then they have to.

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Speaker 15: Be enforced and then enforce a bull and that seems

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Speaker 15: to be what's going to be the sticking point right

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Speaker 15: now with this current summit.

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Speaker 8: You've got to be able to put troops. Go back to.

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Speaker 15: The Vietnam War, for example, any of those kinds of

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Speaker 15: treaties that tried to stop wars that they have to

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Speaker 15: have the way to reinforce them, the dating Theccords for example,

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Speaker 15: nineteen ninety five. So again you bring it all together,

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Speaker 15: you have to have at least those three components to

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Speaker 15: have a successful summit, and unfortunately right now we don't

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Speaker 15: have any of them.

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Speaker 2: Well, so does that mean you categorize the Trump Putin

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Speaker 2: meeting as a failure.

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Speaker 15: Well, for now, I think summits have to go in Cereal,

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Speaker 15: and the first thing you have to do is get

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Speaker 15: this expectation and start writing things down and see what

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Speaker 15: the negotiations are. And it seems as though from what

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Speaker 15: I'm my understanding now, from what Trump thought Putin said,

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Speaker 15: from what Putin is saying today only five days later,

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Speaker 15: seems to be a disconnect, And I think that's the

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Speaker 15: issue here and which is why this is.

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Speaker 2: Well get INTI with me talking to Major Mike Lyons,

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Speaker 2: retired United States Army military analyst, what's the disconnect? What

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Speaker 2: in your view, what God said, what's being said now?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think Trump thought Putin would allow Western militaries

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Speaker 15: and he would have allowed this security agreement in Ukraine,

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Speaker 15: would have allowed soldiers and other countries to place troops

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Speaker 15: inside Ukraine to reinforce this new border if once Ukraine

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Speaker 15: was willing to give up some of that land. Giving

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Speaker 15: up land from Ukraine's perspective is a huge deal. And

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Speaker 15: I think that was one of the sticking points. It's

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Speaker 15: with Trump when he told Zelenski, you don't have the cards,

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Speaker 15: you know. The bottom line is, you know Russia has

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Speaker 15: occupied that land. They've occupied it for a while. They've

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Speaker 15: been there since twenty fourteen, for example in Crimea, and

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Speaker 15: so Zelensky was willing to at least take that back

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Speaker 15: to his Congress to say we're going to lose this

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Speaker 15: land area.

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Speaker 8: He wants security assurances.

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Speaker 15: Well, I think Trump thought Putin agreed to that, but

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Speaker 15: it doesn't look like that's the case anymore. It looks

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Speaker 15: like from what Labrapha said and what's kind of come out,

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Speaker 15: that Putin is back to his hardline stands of he

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Speaker 15: wants the area in the Dombas, he wants no NATO

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Speaker 15: assurances in Ukrainian and he wants no Western troops inside

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Speaker 15: that area.

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Speaker 8: So I think that's a little bit of a salemate.

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Speaker 2: So the idea that he went back on his word,

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Speaker 2: the Vladimir Putin went back on his word, there's no

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Speaker 2: surprise in this. It would be impossible to see somebody

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Speaker 2: be surprised that Putin cannot be trusted. And then you

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Speaker 2: see this bombing that took place basically a mile from

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Speaker 2: the Slovakia border, very close to the Polish border. There

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Speaker 2: from Russia that hits this US aligned and funded business.

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Speaker 2: That had to have been purpose, all right. That was

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Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin saying, we'll do anything we want, anytime we want.

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Speaker 2: We hold all the cards. I mean, that was really

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Speaker 2: the to me, that was the signal to President Trump

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01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: that I think I can call your bluff. Was that

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Speaker 2: not it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think so, Tony. I think that again.

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Speaker 15: I never thought from the beginning though, there was enough

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Speaker 15: leverage on Putin to stop. If you were going to

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Speaker 15: make a historical analysis to anything right now, would be

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Speaker 15: the date and the cords of ninety five when finally

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Speaker 15: the US air power came in on the side of

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Speaker 15: Bosnia and was able to tip the balance in favor

1314
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Speaker 15: at least get both sides to admit that they were

1315
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 15: going anywhere militarily. That's just not the case right now.

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Speaker 15: Vladimir Putin still believes he can win militarily. For example,

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Speaker 15: every time I open up the paper today and you know,

1318
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Speaker 15: go to go to the internet and get my news,

1319
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 15: we find that Russia has launched the largest attack ever

1320
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,919
Speaker 15: you know, to date on Ukraine. Well, that keeps escalating,

1321
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 15: They keep they keep ratcheting up the pressure. Cruise missiles

1322
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 15: and the like, and the air defense systems can't seem

1323
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 15: to stop them. So Russia is escalating right now. And

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01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 15: this is not like escalating before peace negotiations. This is

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01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 15: an escalation to try to put more pressure on Ukraine.

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Speaker 15: So I don't I don't think Russia ever had the

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Speaker 15: leverage on them. That's similar to that it took in

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Speaker 15: date in ninety five in order to get those those

1329
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Speaker 15: two sides to agree to some kind of a cease fire.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't think the US had the leverage on.

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Speaker 15: Them now, Well, Ukraine really is. They're the ones that

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Speaker 15: have it. You know, there's not there's not there's not

1333
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 15: been enough pressure. If if all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 15: United States does did enter the conflict, did all of

1335
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 15: a sudden fly air cover, did provide offensive weapons more

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Speaker 15: offensive weapons, for example, and had given them a chance

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01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 15: they'll clear previous three years, then maybe that would happen.

1338
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,839
Speaker 15: But for right now we're seeing, also from a warfare

1339
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 15: strategic perspective, you can't defend something. George Patten said from

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01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 15: the very beginning, You just can't, you know, if you're

1341
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 15: gonna sit there and take it as a country and

1342
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 15: defend you're eventually going to lose, especially a war of

1343
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 15: attrition against the country that's got more resources.

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Speaker 2: So talking to Major of Mike Lions, retired United States Army,

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01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 2: we should at this moment make sure that we're all

1346
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 2: on the same page about what we're discussing. We're discussing

1347
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 2: how Russia sees the war with Ukraine and does not

1348
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: concern itself as of yet with any level of European

1349
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 2: and the United States intervention. That's the discussion here. This

1350
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 2: is not a discussion whether the United States could take

1351
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: the Russian military. The United States could end the Russian

1352
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 2: military in seven and a half seconds, because, to your point,

1353
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: Major Lions, the Russians a proof that they don't have

1354
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: a military worth a good Holy dang, they absolutely turned

1355
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: this into a cluster. What was supposed to be three

1356
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: days is now three years. They couldn't even figure out

1357
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: how to run their tanks on roads. Instead they ran

1358
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: through muddy fields. But what the Russians do have and

1359
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: have historically had, is a willingness to let people die

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01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: for the cause. And in as you were describing, a

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01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: war of attrition, the Russians can outlast the Ukrainians without question.

1362
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: The Russians have more bodies to throw at this and

1363
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: more willingness to throw the bodies at it. Which brings

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Speaker 2: us now to the Europeans. You see the summit Trump

1365
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 2: and Putin. Your argument is nothing concrete comes out of that.

1366
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 2: Putin's already renegging on that. That's a real issue for

1367
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: how one could could think that makes Donald Trump look

1368
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: the president of the United States. But here come the

1369
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: European leaders. Trump meets with Vladimir Zelenski. Then you've got

1370
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Speaker 2: this whole group of people who are hanging out, and

1371
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Speaker 2: you've got Georgia Maloney there of Italy looking so bored

1372
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 2: with the whole dang thing. Can we just get on

1373
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 2: with destroying these Russians? Already it's always a little look

1374
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: that she's presenting. Talk to me about what it is

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01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 2: the Europeans wanted out of that meeting, What you think

1376
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 2: they got out of the meeting and where they're going next.

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Speaker 15: Well, I think the European leaders thought that Trump actually

1378
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 15: had a better deal with Putin than what's come about.

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Speaker 15: I think both French and the British were willing to

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01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 15: put soldiers on the ground inside Ukraine in order to

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Speaker 15: reinforce a security agreement.

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Speaker 8: I think the United.

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Speaker 15: States would have provided air cover as well as intel

1384
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 15: assets and the supply chain logistics that were really already

1385
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,799
Speaker 15: doing right now. So I think that's what the European

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01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 15: leaders thought was going to happen, and this was going

1387
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 15: to move forward. They were going to ride Donald Trump's

1388
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 15: coattails and thinking that that was going to be successful.

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Speaker 15: I couldn't blame them. I think there was no other

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01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 15: way to do that. But go back to what I

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01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 15: said before about reliance. The Germans are reliant on Russia

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01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 15: for energy, and since they've outsourced the core competency of

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01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 15: their country, they really can't all of a sudden become

1394
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 15: adversarial to Russia. I mean, until they get to the

1395
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 15: point where they're not buying salt from Russia, it really

1396
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 15: doesn't matter. I Vladimir Putin knows this, and it gets

1397
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 15: back to that other leverage of soft power that Vladimir

1398
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 15: Putin also knows he owns. If Donald Trump decides to

1399
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 15: get with Europe and implement crippling sanctions on Russia, they

1400
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 15: still might not matter because Russia has on its side

1401
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 15: the Chinese and now the Indians, with over a billion

1402
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 15: people each there that still rely on Russia gas and fuel.

1403
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 15: So Europe can do certain things economically, but Europe thought

1404
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 15: they were going to get away with just providing troops

1405
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 15: and a security posture and not have to have their

1406
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 15: economies inflicted. Germany would be the hardest. Germany would have

1407
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 15: to figure out how to replace Russian energy that it

1408
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 15: currently buys from it, and it would be a significant

1409
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 15: hardship to Germany.

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Speaker 8: The question is whether or not the German chancellor would

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Speaker 8: be willing to do that.

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Speaker 2: So this makes things a little more dire. Talking to

1413
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 2: major miclions retired to United States Army military analyst, you

1414
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: had the story in the Wall Street Journal this past

1415
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: week about how China and India are more aligned, and

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01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know exactly how dangerous I see this.

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01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 2: They've always they share borders, There's always been some conversation there.

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01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: But anytime you know two point four billion people to

1419
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 2: the extend it to the extent it's still two point

1420
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: four billion get together. You always have to be aware

1421
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 2: of this. So the way you're kind of putting this

1422
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 2: together is kind of saying that there is now this

1423
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: real realignment, which it is Europe and the United States

1424
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: versus Russia, China, now India. In that conversation, I don't

1425
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: think India has shown itself to be well, we're with

1426
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 2: the Chinese and forget America. Mody Is certainly the Prime

1427
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: Minister sees the value of Russian oil and says, we

1428
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 2: have a a young population, a hungry population that's sick

1429
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 2: and tired of being poor. We're going to take all

1430
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: the cheap energy we can and we're not interested in

1431
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: whether or not you're happy with the United States. We

1432
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 2: have to do what we have to do for us.

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01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: I think that much is very true, But I don't

1434
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Speaker 2: see this as India now all of a sudden having

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01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 2: a trust of the communist Chinese. They have to know

1436
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: that that's an issue for them in the future. So

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01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: if you're now the United States and it's now you

1438
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 2: in Europe trying to create this peace deal with Ukraine,

1439
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 2: how does it not end up with a peacekeeping force

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01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: on the ground to the east of Kiev.

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01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 15: It doesn't, It wouldn't be enforceable if it wasn't the case,

1442
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 15: And in particular land mass that Vladimir Putin now wants,

1443
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 15: also that he hasn't even captured yet, He's only captured

1444
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 15: not all the dombass region that he wants.

1445
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 8: And if you look at.

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01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 15: The the Nepro River, and if you can look at

1447
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 15: from a military perspective, he's looking for more land masks

1448
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 15: that would give him straight shot to Kiev in five

1449
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 15: or ten years, if there wasn't these security if it

1450
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 15: wasn't troops on the ground there defending that border. You know,

1451
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 15: Trump tried carrots, I think first with India. Now he's

1452
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 15: reverted to sticks with the high tariffs and the like.

1453
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 15: From an economic perspective, and again the question is whether

1454
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 15: or not they'll they'll stick and whether or not they'll

1455
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 15: impact in the short run. I think Putin knows that

1456
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 15: anything economically will take a longer time.

1457
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 8: Take much to implement.

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01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 15: What the United States would like to do should have

1459
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 15: been done ten months ago, twelve months ago in order

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01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 15: to have it impactful now when it's time to do

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01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 15: the negotiations.

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Speaker 2: That's major. Mike Lyons, retired United States Army military analysts.

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01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 2: I've got more with him coming up because the situation

1464
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 2: with Russia and Ukraine, one should ask if Russia is

1465
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 2: not going to stop, if Ukraine won't give up land,

1466
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: if Europe is not going to get involved. I mean,

1467
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 2: you could take the machinations anyway you want. Is there

1468
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 2: a moment where it's not our problem anymore? And what

1469
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: does it mean if it's not our problem? Because there's

1470
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 2: even a bigger geopolitical conversation at play here when talking

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Speaker 2: about China and India. Keep it here. I'm Tony Kaks.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 3: When I hired him, he served a good purpose because,

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01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 3: as you know, he was one of the people that

1475
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 3: forced Push to do the ridiculous bombings in the Middle East.

1476
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 4: The Bolton he.

1477
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 3: Wants always skilled people, and he's very bad at what

1478
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 3: he does. But he worked out great for me because

1479
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: every time he doesn't talk. He's like a very quiet person,

1480
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: except on television. If you could say something bad about Trump,

1481
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 3: he'll always do that, but he really doesn't talk.

1482
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 4: He's quiet. And walk into a room.

1483
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 5: With him with a foreign country and the foreign country

1484
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 5: would give me everything because they said, I don't know,

1485
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 5: they're going to get blown.

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01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 3: Up because John Bolton is there. He's not a smart guy,

1487
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 3: but he could be a very unpatriotic I mean, we're

1488
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 3: going to find out.

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Speaker 4: I know nothing about it. I just saw it this morning.

1490
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Speaker 4: They did a rid.

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Speaker 2: He knew, whether he didn't know, people can scream about that.

1492
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: But the raid on John Bolton's home by the FBI

1493
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: certainly came as a surprise to lots of people. This morning,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony kats dot com. Happened about seven am,

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Speaker 2: the raid at his home in Bethesda, Maryland. The reporting was,

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Speaker 2: this is about documents, this is about possibly classified documents.

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Speaker 2: You had a post from Cash Metella, the FBI director,

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Speaker 2: that nobody is above the law. I'm not quite sure

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Speaker 2: what that was in reference to what is it that

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Speaker 2: John Bolton, the former National Security Advisor, could have had.

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01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 2: What is it that was possibly in his possession? Don't know,

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Speaker 2: Sources confirming to Newsmax the investigation is focused on the

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01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 2: handling of classified documents and national security secrets. Now, if

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Speaker 2: it turns out Bolton's another one of these guys, so

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Speaker 2: its classified documents when he should, I'm gonna go nuts.

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01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 2: I went nuts when it was Trump, I went nuts

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01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 2: when it was by and I went nuts when it

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Speaker 2: was Mike Pence. Enough with this, also, enough with classifying

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Speaker 2: everything under the sun. Maybe not everything needs some top

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Speaker 2: secret designation. But when you're in the business of classifying things,

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Speaker 2: you classify everything because, after all, that's your business. So

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01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what the documents are, documents that were

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Speaker 2: leaked or just documents that should not have been in

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01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 2: his possession. Were these documents asked for back and John

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01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 2: Bolton said no? Or did they decide to go in

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01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 2: and do the same thing that I said was wrong

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01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: to do to Paul Mannifort and others and wrong to

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01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 2: do to Donald Trump at mar A Lago. So we

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01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 2: don't know what we don't know as of yet. What

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01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 2: we know is that if you were holding onto documents

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Speaker 2: that it shouldn't be, that's a real issue, a massive issue.

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01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 2: You gotta get the documents back, you do. These things

1524
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Speaker 2: are going to play out over the next few days.

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Speaker 2: We'll get plenty of answers more with major Mike Lions

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Speaker 2: coming up about Ukraine and Russia and the United States.

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Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz Today, continuing the

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Speaker 2: conversation with Major Mike Lions. I'm Tony Katz. The show

1529
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: is Tony Katz Today. You are fantastic for being here.

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Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. T o n

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01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 2: Y Katz Tony Katz dot com in this conversation about

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01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 2: the summit between Trump and Putin in Anchorage and what

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01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 2: did it result in? Well, result in the conversation with Lenskig,

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Speaker 2: result in the conversation of a meeting with European leaders,

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Speaker 2: and now a couple of days later, basically a week later,

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Speaker 2: Russia hasn't stopped. Your missiles are hitting us back businesses

1537
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 2: in Ukraine. There's no lessening of what's happening. So again

1538
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 2: a concert reminder that you cannot trust Vladimir Putin. But

1539
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 2: the question that we now have to ask ourselves is

1540
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 2: can you get this war to stop? Talking to Major

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Speaker 2: Mike Lyons, retired United States Army West Point Graduate military analyst,

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Speaker 2: let's continue this conversation about the sanctions. It was formed

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Speaker 2: Vice President Mike Pence saying the Senate should be voting

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Speaker 2: on and approving those secondary sanctions so the President can

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Speaker 2: use them as he sees fit. But in the end,

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01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 2: this is a question of can you get this war

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01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 2: to stop? The people who have long been on the

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01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,560
Speaker 2: side of why do we care are now going to

1549
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 2: be reinforced to this idea of why do we care?

1550
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 2: It's their wards, their problem, pay no attention to it.

1551
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 2: So let's start there. Why do or why should Americans

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01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 2: care about what happens to Ukraine regarding the invasion from Russia.

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Speaker 8: Well, we should care. The question is to what extent

1554
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 8: should we care?

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Speaker 15: Okay, and we can provide treasure, and we can provide

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01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 15: assistance to Ukraine that transcends again blankets and communication radios

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Speaker 15: that the Obama administration did. And we can pour all

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Speaker 15: the weapons we can, you know, offensive weapons, We can

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01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,560
Speaker 15: do that, but we don't want to get into a

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Speaker 15: situation of matching.

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Speaker 8: Off to another nuclear power. We wouldn't want that to happen.

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Speaker 15: Look, Russia has lost a million casualties since this has started,

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Speaker 15: which is unthinkable, more casualties, you know, than you know,

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Speaker 15: ten times Vietnam. I mean, the numbers are just incredible

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01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 15: what they've lost, and they can to continue to look

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01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 15: to do that. So if Europe in the United States

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01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 15: does pour weapons into Ukraine, it's possible that Ukraine could

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Speaker 15: at least make a stalemate and make sure Russia recognizes

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Speaker 15: that they won't win this thing on the ground, they

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01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 15: won't accomplish their military goals. I think also there's an

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Speaker 15: undercurrent to think that perhaps something will happen inside of Russia.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't bet on that.

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Speaker 15: I wouldn't necessarily say that that was a good plan,

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Speaker 15: But at some point the Russian people could also decide

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Speaker 15: that they've had enough. In the Russian rest of the

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01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 15: oligarchs that are losing money, that are being attacked. I mean,

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Speaker 15: you're starting to see Ukraine hit Russian facilities, oil facilities

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Speaker 15: and some of their infrastructure.

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Speaker 8: That is starting to make an impact. And if they

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Speaker 8: had more weapons to so.

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Speaker 15: They introduced another weapon today at long range missile today

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Speaker 15: that they're manufacturing. What Ukraine has done for itself has fair.

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Speaker 15: It's been nothing short than amazing from their country, and

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Speaker 15: from what's going on, I think there's a lot kind

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Speaker 15: of like I'll make.

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Speaker 8: It like Israel.

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Speaker 15: There's a lot of support coming in from the United States,

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Speaker 15: I'm sure on the down low, but they're still willing

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Speaker 15: to fight. So if they're still willing to fight, we

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Speaker 15: should give them the resources to do that.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired to United States Army

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Speaker 2: military analyst, I'm going to go back to this conversation

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01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 2: about Europe and that Europe wants to thwart Russia where

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Speaker 2: they are have the buffer between them and Slovakia and

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01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 2: Poland them between them and anything that could bring about

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Speaker 2: an Article five challenge to that grouping of NATO and

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Speaker 2: attack on one as an attack on all. And I

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01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 2: think it is a clear argument that the Europeans understand

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Speaker 2: that Russia is an expansion of power before we move

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Speaker 2: any forward in this any further in this conversation major lions,

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01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 2: yes or no, is Russia under Vladimir Putin and expansionist power.

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Speaker 15: They are to the extent where they would like to

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Speaker 15: restore the former USSR. We saw again laver Off come

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Speaker 15: to that meeting with the USSR sweatshirt. That's their mentality,

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01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 15: that's flat. Amir Putin's in his genetics and his genes.

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01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 15: That's what he wants to do. That's where he envisions

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01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 15: Russia as a world power, not just the land mass

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Speaker 15: occurrence he currently owns.

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Speaker 8: Ukraine is the jewel of that for many reasons going

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Speaker 8: back in history.

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Speaker 15: But to think they're going to lat be About and

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Speaker 15: those other Baltic countries and pull In and the like

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01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 15: is just not feasible. But as a minimum, while he's alive,

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01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 15: he still wants like to have Ukraine, so we can.

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Speaker 2: At least now put that part aside. We know that

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01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 2: this is factual, we know that this is true. The

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01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 2: Europeans need to thwart this. It's the Europeans who need

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01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 2: to say, you know what, We're going to point guns

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Speaker 2: at Russian skulls and if we have to pull the trigger,

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01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 2: we will. That's the only way the Russians are going

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01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 2: to stop. It's the only way this is going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has clearly no interest in that. But Donald

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01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 2: Trump more so has no interest in being played. And

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01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 2: certainly one can argue with these latest moves in the

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Speaker 2: last twenty four to thirty six hours by Vladimir Putin,

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Speaker 2: it's like, listen, they want to work a deal to okay,

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Speaker 2: they are not interested in a deal. Where, in your view,

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Speaker 2: based on your contact, your information, your thoughts, where does

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01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: that leave the United States in this saying you know

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01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 2: what we tried moving on or you know what we

1631
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 2: tried putin things. He's tough. Let us show you what

1632
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 2: is Which way is this going?

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Speaker 8: I don't think Trump is there yet, but he could

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01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 8: get there.

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01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 15: I do believe that that's the case, and I think

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01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 15: he recognizes that the Germans, for example, would should have

1637
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 15: had the largest military in order to thwart this and

1638
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 15: to be the greatest threat to Russia. The actual military

1639
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 15: on the ground that is the greatest threat to Russia

1640
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 15: is Turkey.

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01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 8: It's in Europe.

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Speaker 15: But the problem obviously with Turkey is there aligned with Russia.

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01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 15: They had bought US, say, four hundred missiles from them.

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01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 15: I think Erdawan has moved somewhat away from Russia. If

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01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 15: you noticed, they were not the meeting. Also absent from

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01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 15: the meeting. I thought the Canadians were absent, and as

1647
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 15: were the polls. I think I think, you know, having

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01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 15: a Polish leader there would have been an interesting concept

1649
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,759
Speaker 15: because of the amount of support they already provide Ukraine.

1650
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 15: But until until Vladimir Putin feels that to your point

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01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 15: that the European nations can put together a formidable military

1652
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 15: or security agreement without relying on NATO, because I think

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01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 15: one of the issues is if they do.

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01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 8: If let's say.

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01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 15: German and French troops decide that they're part of the

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01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 15: security arrangement and the Russians do decide to attack them,

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01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 15: I think I think one of the stipulations will be

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01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,560
Speaker 15: that will not constitute an Article five attack, and it

1659
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 15: will not necessarily trigger a full NATO response.

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01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:45,959
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back. We are talking about a president

1661
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 2: that put his entire reputation, and very much so, on

1662
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,799
Speaker 2: the line here that wanting this piece deal is important.

1663
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 2: It was the campaign promise, it would have ended in

1664
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 2: day one, and you had Vladimir Putin at the summit

1665
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,759
Speaker 2: saying Donald Trump is right, this would never have happened

1666
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 2: if Trump was president, which is a kind of a

1667
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 2: throwaway line. It doesn't actually mean anything. There's no there

1668
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:11,640
Speaker 2: there when he says it. It's just platitude for valuelessness.

1669
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 2: But Trump put himself on the line, and this is

1670
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,759
Speaker 2: Putin saying, yeah, I don't care to think that nothing

1671
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 2: comes from that is certainly and I think an impossible

1672
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 2: way to view it. So that would lead me to

1673
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 2: question how Vladimir Putin is viewing this, thinking that, Eh,

1674
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 2: what's he gonna do to me? I've got China, which

1675
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 2: I am possibly a vassal state of already. Maybe I've

1676
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 2: got India because I'm selling them oil. As you brought

1677
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 2: up earlier, they can't do anything to me. I'm gonna

1678
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 2: take all this land. Maybe I'll take a little bit more.

1679
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 2: And that's just the way it is, and then I'll

1680
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 2: stop for a couple of years, and then I'll start

1681
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 2: back up again. I mean, there's there's got to be

1682
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 2: a response from a Trump White House to that real

1683
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 2: possibility being the actual reality.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, And from what people I know in the NSC

1685
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 15: and from what I hear Marco Rubio say, they're going

1686
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 15: to have a hard line stance against Ukraine, which means

1687
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 15: they're going to pour weapons in first. They're not going to,

1688
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 15: you know, Donald Trump could force Ukraine to somewhat acquiesce more,

1689
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 15: give into this, give into what Putin wants in order

1690
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 15: just to stop the war.

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01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 8: From his perspective, I don't think that will happen.

1692
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 15: I think there's enough people around Trump right now that

1693
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 15: say we've got to if Ukraine is willing to fight,

1694
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 15: we have to then continue to support them, continue to

1695
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 15: reinforce what they're doing, Give them offensive weapons, let them go.

1696
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 15: Let's take the risk of Russia not expanding this any further.

1697
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 15: You look at what happened in the Date and Accords.

1698
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 15: Put more pressure on them militarily, make them recognize they

1699
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 15: won't accomplish their goals to the military.

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01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 2: I want to go back again to this conversation about Russia, China, India.

1701
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 2: I talked about a reference that well Sreet Journal Peace

1702
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 2: we have discussed before you and I on this show,

1703
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 2: that Russia could already be a vassal state of China,

1704
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 2: unable to basically function if it wasn't a Chinese money

1705
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 2: or whatever that may be coming that we don't know about.

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Speaker 2: Is there a real consideration about world realignment and how

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Speaker 2: does the United States deal with that? Meaning is Ukraine

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Speaker 2: really the first thing that we should be focused on,

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Speaker 2: or like what's his name, Elbridge? Oh, gosh, I can't

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Speaker 2: remember his name, Colby, thank you. Everything needs to be

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Speaker 2: focused on China every step of the way. When China

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Speaker 2: says we're really looking forward to reuniting and having reunification

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Speaker 2: with Taiwan, that that is absolutely a threat. We know

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Speaker 2: that Senator Todd Young of Indiana was in the Philippines

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Speaker 2: soon after two Chinese vessels crashed going after a Filipino

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Speaker 2: a vessel navy vessel. That there's real movement happening in

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Speaker 2: the South China Sea and the Philippine Sea, in the

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Speaker 2: Straits of Taiwan that has China on the move to

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Speaker 2: further their hegemonic power. Is Ukraine the right focus or

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Speaker 2: should it be Listen, We'll keep sending you patriots and

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Speaker 2: some bullets, but we have to deal with the China

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Speaker 2: threat now that not only works against our allies Japan,

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Speaker 2: of phil Beans works regarding how we have free trade

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Speaker 2: and free navigable seas, but we got to keep China

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Speaker 2: from partnering up with India because India needs to know

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Speaker 2: who's actually in charge.

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Speaker 15: Well, in the old days, we had a doctor and

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Speaker 15: that said we could fight a two and a half

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Speaker 15: front war. We could fight at war both in Germany,

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Speaker 15: in Europe and then as well as the Pacific, and

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Speaker 15: then fight smaller conflicts and other locations during the Clinton administration.

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Speaker 15: It was in early Bush administrations that was ratcheted down

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Speaker 15: to really one and a half because of the cost.

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Speaker 15: And then as they realign our army, for example, taking

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Speaker 15: five hundred thousand soldiers out of active duty spaces and

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Speaker 15: the like. So today the focus really is only that

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Speaker 15: one and a half. So I think the question is

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Speaker 15: I'm sure guys like Pete Hegseth know that, and Elbridge

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01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 15: Colby know that, and so they want that one to

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Speaker 15: be focused into the Pacific and not necessarily into China

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01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 15: and not necessarily into Europe. But I think part of

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01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 15: the Pentagon budget is to make that point five back

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Speaker 15: to a one so you have the ability to fight

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Speaker 15: the two Front war if we had to. Could I

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01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 15: think we could do both. I do think that our

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01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 15: focus in Ukraine has been more or less an open checkbook,

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01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 15: helping American defense contractors and helping them in that regard.

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Speaker 8: But our strategic focus still has to be the Pacific.

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Speaker 15: It has to be what's going on there, getting enough

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01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 15: naval assets in that place, is creating enough of the

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Speaker 15: terms for the Chinese. Trump's already on the hook saying

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01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 15: Jiji Ping said he would not attack Taiwan while he's president,

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01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 15: so he seems to be confident with that. But again

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Speaker 15: the question is whether or not the Chinese leader is

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Speaker 15: going to run out of patients as well at some point.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go. Is peace possible between Ukraine

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Speaker 2: and Russia?

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Speaker 9: Not?

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Speaker 2: You know, hey, they're gonna have to give up this

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Speaker 2: or someone else is gonna have to give up that.

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Speaker 2: Is it possible to see the Russians stop their advance

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Speaker 2: on Ukrainian territory in the year twenty twenty five, Tony,

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 8: I don't think there's enough leverage on Vladimir Putin to

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Speaker 8: do that.

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Speaker 15: And he will continue to fight and will continue to

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01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 15: throw his citizenships into the meat grinder of Ukraine. Ukraine

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Speaker 15: will continue to block and stop them. This is now

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Speaker 15: up to a point where there will be a clear

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Speaker 15: winner and a clear loser. And at this point, right now,

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Speaker 15: if if Ukraine decides to agree what Vladimir Putin wants

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Speaker 15: to do, Ukraine will be the clear loser. And until

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Speaker 15: the European nations decide to and make sure that doesn't

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Speaker 15: be the case. They're given the military assets you need

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Speaker 15: to continue to go as long as he wants to go.

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Speaker 8: See, I don't take him that in this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to me the European nations are totally

1778
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 2: fine with Ukraine giving up some land as long as

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01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 2: it continues to be the buffer. It seems to me

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Speaker 2: that these European nations understand that eventually there's going to

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Speaker 2: be a peacekeeping force east of Kiev, and it's going

1782
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 2: to be them, and the United States may provide some

1783
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 2: mayor support, which creates a whole nother issue. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's leaving the region. But I am

1785
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Speaker 2: with you about where the Russians are at. Certainly after

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Speaker 2: seeing what happened in the last thirty six hours, Major

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Speaker 2: Mike Lions retired the United States Army military analyst m Aj.

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Speaker 2: there's tons of palace intrigue going on in DC. You've

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Speaker 2: got a governor in California who has decided to heck

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Speaker 2: with business and to heck with the people. He's full

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Speaker 2: Katz today, Good to be with you. I am thrilled

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Speaker 2: producer from Justified, from Fried Green Tomatoes, from was he

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Speaker 2: in the Fugitive? He was from Runaway Jury. He's done everything,

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Speaker 2: has Nick and we've even done some stuff together. But

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Speaker 2: he's coming to my beloved Indianapolis to participate with me.

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Speaker 2: incredible night with actor Nick Sercy. He's going to go

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Speaker 2: through parts of his career, some insane Hollywood stories, what

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Speaker 2: he is still acting. How does that happen? Meanwhile, he

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Speaker 2: made two documentaries, actually more but two documentaries about January sixth.

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Speaker 2: How did those go over? What did you teach them

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Speaker 2: about DC? And why did he decide to move to

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Speaker 2: everyone take care,