1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: You really got me going. You got me so I 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm going. 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, you really got me though, you got me Sa 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: Casley Midnight. 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Yeah you're really you got. 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: You really. 7 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 4: Welcome back to ninety three w I b C Producer 8 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 4: Kevin with a phenomenal intro bump music. 9 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: He knows me too well. 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 4: I would just I would just let this whole kink 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 4: song play out in its entirety. But that's that's not 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 4: what you're tuned in for. So we're gonna dive right 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 4: into the content for today's show. I'm Ethan Hatcher. Sitting 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: beside me is Jerry Lowe Pez and we have got 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 4: a wonderful morning show lined up for you. Easter Sunday, 16 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: I hope everybody had a good Easter. Eight lots of 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: chocolate celebrated the resurrection of Jesus Christ, a very important 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: Christian holiday. Although I'm not a believer, I fully recognize 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 4: the importance of the holiday. 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: To the faithful. Did you have a good Easter there, Jared, I. 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: Had a great Easter. Let's not forget. 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 5: Today is Championship Monday in the Circle City. Today the 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 5: Final four comes to an end. I will have the 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: honor of taking my son to that game, really looking 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 5: forward to it. 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: But today's the big one Downtown. We have Yukon and Michigan. 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 5: Let's be good hosts to people that are visiting in 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 5: our city so they want to come back. 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 4: Yes, well, that's one thing I think Indianapolis does phenomenally 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: well is host events exactly like this. And what better 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: place to host the Final Four than the birthplace of basketball, 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 4: which is Indiana. I mean, it is our not the 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: national pastime, but the past time of the state. 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: For sure. 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: People love basket ball in the Hoosier heartland. So yes, absolutely, 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: I hope they are wonderful hosts and people want to 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: come back and spend their money here. We need the 38 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 4: economic boost, right, Jerry. 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 5: Oh, listen, We're going to get into some reasons why 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 5: we need the economic boost here in a few. 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to get into that, But first we 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: got to start with the tweet heard round the world. 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: When I saw this pop up in my feed, Jerry, first, 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: I had to fact check. 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: It because there's no way that Donald Trump really tweeted this. 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: I mean, there's just no way that he actually tweeted 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: these words on an Easter Sunday. But then then I 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: saw Jake Tapper reported on CNN, and I knew it 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: had to be true. 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 6: He has just threatened heron in extraordinary graphic terms, giving 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 6: the Iranian regime just over a day to either make 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 6: a deal, reopen the strait up hoorn moves, or face help. 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 6: If your children are watching, be warned the President did 54 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 6: not use polite language. Quote Tuesday will be power plant day, 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 6: can bridge day, all wrapped up and won in Iran. 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 6: There will be no thing like it. Open the bank 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 6: and straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. 58 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Just watch. 59 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 6: You should note that destroying civilian power infrastructure is generally 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 6: considered to constitute a war crime under international law, though 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 6: the President could argue that the infrastructure has dual use 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 6: and also is utilized by Iron's military. 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Boy, that escalated quickly. 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: I mean that really got. 65 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 7: Out of hand fast. 66 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: It jumped up a notch. 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: It did, didn't it. 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: What Jake Tapper left off of the tweet was after 69 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: he said you'll be living in hell, just watch, he 70 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 4: ended by saying, praise be to Allah. 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: President Donald J. Trump? What did he mean by that? Jerry? 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: I do a little join for me to uh to 73 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 5: be on Easter to be a Catholic kid and on Easter, 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 5: or see my president say praise be to a law 75 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 5: was a little joined. One of the reasons why I 76 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 5: didn't repost it because this is obviously fake. Yeah, and 77 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 5: it was one. But here's my problem. Why are we 78 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 5: begging now? It sounds like we're begging for them to 79 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 5: open the straight Well. 80 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: We also keep moving back the deadline. It's forty eight hours, 81 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: and then it's ten days, and then it's an extra 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: forty eight hours, and then it's eighty two hours. 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: I thought were almost done. Yeah, that's what he said 84 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 5: at nine o'clock. Right, We're almost on the verge, and 85 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 5: one week later we're begging. 86 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: Well, he keeps saying that we've won the war, but 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: yet we're still negotiating for peace and we're demanding. 88 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: The Strait be open. 89 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: At the same time that the President says we don't 90 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: need the Strait of horror moves and Europe can defend 91 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: the Strait for itself. But as you heard in the tweet, 92 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 4: now he's saying that we could start bombing civilian infrastructure, 93 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 4: as reported by Trey Yanks to Fox News. 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, good morning. 95 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 8: I just spoke with President Trump for fifteen minutes. 96 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: He gave me some new. 97 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 8: Details on the negotiations behind the scenes with the Iradians 98 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 8: and what's going to happen if Iran does not make 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 8: a good faith deal. The President tells me, if they 100 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 8: don't make a deal and fast, I'm considering blowing everything 101 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 8: up and taking over the oil. The President went on 102 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 8: to say, you're going to see bridges and power plants 103 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 8: dropping all over their country come night fall. 104 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: The city is mine and anyone left to your place 105 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: by my rules. If you don't want to be in 106 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: the game, get out now. 107 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 7: But the bridge and tunnel crowd are short for surprise ha. 108 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: Ha start bombing civilian infrastructures. 109 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 5: And quotes though, brother, like war is blowing up things, 110 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 5: war is hitting bridges, War is stopping your power, War 111 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 5: is securing your assets. 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: And like war is ugly, what is very ugly? 113 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: War as hell? 114 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: As they say, war is literally hell, And we're sitting 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: off people to give their lives for a country. 116 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: The least we can do is try to support them. 117 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: But I know if people started blowing up power plants 118 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: and bridges in the United States, we would call those 119 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 4: people terrorists and rightfully so, because they're attacking civilians and 120 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: not the military and Iran they just keep telling Donald 121 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: Trump to suck a kosher deal pickle. 122 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: They're not putting up with it. 123 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: And there when you make these threats without considering the possibilities, 124 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: this could lead to a cascading disaster, one that Donald 125 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: Trump has invited on himself, like hypothetically, if they don't 126 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: comply by Monday, here's how this could go down. Eighty 127 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 4: million people losing their electricity, including hospitals, water plants, communications, 128 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: all of it gone Ran retaliating on Saudi Arabia and 129 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: the UA United Arab Emirate oil facilities. Oil then spiking 130 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 4: past one hundred and fifty dollars, potentially up to two 131 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: hundred dollars per barrel, which would be disastrous for the 132 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: United States economy, with gas hitting six to eight dollars 133 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: per gallon, Asia losing fifty percent of its energy supply overnight. 134 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: The houthis close to the Red Sea, two. 135 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 4: Choke points down simultaneously, which could trigger a global recession. 136 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: The alternative, if he backs down every future threat then 137 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: is a bluff. Iran keeps the horror moos straight. Restricted 138 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: oil stays above one hundred dollars is the new normal, 139 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: and allies stop trusting United States commitments. Both options catastrophic, 140 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: Both paths lead to crisis, and the deadline is Monday. 141 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: This is not a negotiation, It's a trap that Trump 142 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: has built for himself. 143 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 5: He has put himself in a very precarious position. There's 144 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 5: absolutely no doubt about that. We should have been in 145 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 5: and out, regime change should have been over with. It 146 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: seems like we got in there and we are trying 147 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: to figure it out as we go. 148 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had the blueprint. 149 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: He had the blueprint from Venezuela when we took out Maduro. 150 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: That was literally like an overnight lightning strike, and we 151 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 4: got in, achieved the goal, got out. But this is 152 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: not as well planned. And then the idea that we 153 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: could attack civilian infrastructure. Yes, you could argue that infrastructure 154 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: is also being used to further military goals. But there 155 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 4: are hosts of people in Iran that are not necessarily 156 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: loyal to the Iranian regime. 157 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: They've been just as terrorized and just as sure. 158 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: But the same goes for people in Israel. 159 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: There are people in Israel that don't necessarily support net 160 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: and Yahoo and everything he believes in. 161 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: So I mean, once again, this is war. 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: This is war, and unfortunately the people who didn't sign 163 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 5: up for. 164 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: It pay the most, and that's the civilians. 165 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: Darryl Isa, Congressman from California, said this is exactly what 166 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: we voted for and that the President will do what 167 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: he needs to do in Iran, including bombing civilian infrastructure 168 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: if that's what it calls for. 169 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 6: Congressman, do you want to see the US start hitting, 170 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 6: like the President says, civilian infrastructure in Iran? 171 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 9: Well, the answer is, of course, the President didn't want 172 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 9: to do it. He'd like to turn over to the 173 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 9: Iranian people a country that can recover quickly with a 174 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 9: change in the regime's behavior or a change of regime. 175 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 9: But from the beginning, the President's made it clear that 176 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 9: the first hit was to stop the nuclear development when 177 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 9: it was on the precipice of being used. The second 178 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 9: one is to change the behavior of the administration or 179 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 9: change administration, and the president is negotiation has been clear. 180 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 9: He'll take either one if this regime is willing to 181 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 9: change its ways through a negotiation that leads to a 182 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 9: profiable piece. Okay, But at the end of the day, 183 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 9: He'll do what he has to do, and that includes 184 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,119 Speaker 9: taking the oil away from them, taking away their ability 185 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 9: to move. 186 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: Equipment, and Peter, let's be honest. 187 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 9: When you take away bridges, you take away the ability 188 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 9: for them to transport future weapons development, to run factories. 189 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 7: Remember the magic words, please, thank you, and step off beats. 190 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: Now. 191 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: I have a couple responses to darryl Isa, the first 192 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: being I'm not sure you can say you're on the 193 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: precipice of developing a nuclear weapon when you're so called 194 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 4: on the precipice for more than thirty years. They've been 195 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: saying that over and over and over again. And at 196 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: what point, Jerry, does the intelligence become unreliable if they 197 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: never actually obtained the weapon. The second observation that I 198 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 4: have from that clip is we wouldn't be having this 199 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 4: problem if we never initiated the conflict to begin with. 200 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: The strait was already open. We didn't have to open 201 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: the straight. We closed the straight by. 202 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: Initiating the attack and Iran retaliated, So we've created this problem. 203 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: To my mind, Jerry, this is a self inflected wound 204 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: from the Trump administration at a time when Americans can 205 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: least afford it at a time when we are thirty 206 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: eight trillion dollars in national debt and the Pentagon is 207 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: holding its hand out and asking for another two hundred 208 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: billion just so we can prosecute this war. 209 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I see what you're saying. 210 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 5: I guess my biggest question is, then, what was Operation 211 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: Midnight Hammer that was last year? 212 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: Did that accomplish nothing? 213 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 5: That is an excellent question because we were told a 214 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 5: lot of this stuff was already blown up. But that correct, 215 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 5: So if that accomplished nothing, I could see we need 216 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 5: to go back in. But we weren't told that. We 217 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 5: were told we got rid of their capabilities. 218 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: To the contrary, Jerry, according to every intelligence agency in 219 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 4: the United States control, Donald Trump was absolutely correct that 220 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: as of last June, Operation Midnight Hammer. Yeah, their nuclear 221 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 4: capability had been obliterated. 222 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: So then what did we just obliterate? 223 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: Well, that's the real question. What is this war really 224 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: all about? Because stopping their nuclear capabilities we did that 225 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: last year seems to be a convenient excuse, but not 226 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: one that's rooted in reality. We're going to cover more 227 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: about the Iranian conflict coming up next. Stay tuned to 228 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: ninety three WIBC. How you are listening to ninety three WIBC, 229 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: Ethan Hatcher and Jerry Lopez on the air before we 230 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: dive into the Iran War once again. I wanted to 231 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: make a small correction from the previous segment. I saw 232 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: somebody in the YouTube chat mentioned did he just say 233 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: the birthplace of basketball was in Indiana? And yes, yes 234 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: I did, but apparently that was incorrect. I thought that 235 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: it was invented here in Indiana to give the Hoosier 236 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: kids something to do during the wintertime. It was invented 237 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 4: in Massachusetts. Sorry, that was a mistake on my part. 238 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: We did not invent the sport, We merely perfected it. 239 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: And yeah, an interesting stud. 240 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, so obviously invented by doctor James Naysmith out in Massachusetts. 241 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: But the reason that Indiana gets so much love for 242 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 5: basketball is twenty seven of the nation's top thirty five 243 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 5: largest basketball stadiums slash whatever are all located here. 244 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: They're all here in India, twenty. 245 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 5: Seven of the top thirty five in the country, the 246 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 5: biggest most housing number one being Newcastle Field House, which 247 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: seats eighty four hundred and twenty four people for high 248 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 5: school for high school basketball. 249 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, this is why I don't talk about sportsketball 250 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: because I am not a fan and I'm prone to 251 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: make mistakes whenever I talk about it. 252 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: So there you go. 253 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: Just wanted to correct the record. But let's dive back 254 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: into the discussion. This was a story that you had 255 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: sent me, Jerry, that I think is very interesting. The 256 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: United States potentially deploying for the first time in the 257 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 4: Iranian conflict something that's called soft kill electronic warfare, using 258 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: microwaves to disrupt the enemy without even firing a bullet. 259 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,239 Speaker 2: This is a This is some wild technology. 260 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 10: One of the most dangerous electronic warfare comes from the 261 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 10: disshaped objects attached to this black Hawk helicopter. While the 262 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 10: Penzagon has an officially disclosed the specific hardware. Military experts 263 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 10: often call this a soft kill system. So how does 264 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 10: it actually work. To understand the weapon, you first have 265 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 10: to look at what it did. The most likely candidate 266 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 10: for a weapon that creates that kind of internal pressure 267 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 10: of that external sound is a high power microwave device. 268 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 10: It relies on something called the fray effect. The weapon, 269 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 10: probably carried by a Chinook or a black Hawk helicopter, 270 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 10: fires a focused beam of pulse microwave energy, not sound waves, 271 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 10: that passes. 272 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: Right through the skull. 273 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 10: These beams are absorbed by the water and the brain 274 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 10: tissue and the fluid in the inner ear. This energy 275 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 10: causes a minuscule rapid heating of the tissue less than 276 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 10: one degree celsius. But that tiny sun expansion generates a 277 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 10: pressure wave inside the skull. The consequence the target here's 278 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 10: this clicks buzzing or war that originates inside their ownreas 279 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 10: by passing the urge ups entirely. If the frequency is 280 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 10: tuned to the resonance of the inner ear, it violently 281 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 10: disrupts the body's balance, causing immediate fertigo. At higher power levels, 282 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 10: that rapid tissue expansion can ructri capillarias, leading to the 283 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 10: reported nosebleeds and internal trauma. 284 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but you're scientist. 285 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 11: We're so preoccupied with whether or not they couldn't they 286 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 11: just stop to think because they should to do. 287 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: They're literally boiling people's brains. Jerry, Now you served in 288 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: the military. What do you think about this technology and 289 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: being used against humans? 290 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's phenomenal. 291 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: First of all, anything that can keep once again in 292 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 5: the war multiple times, anything that can keep us safe 293 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 5: and in the threat on their side. 294 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: I support it completely. 295 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 5: Now it gets weird we're talking about drones because we're 296 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 5: talking about kids in Vegas flying things and they're not 297 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 5: even really at war, right, but they're participating more. 298 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Than any This is shades of them Nicholas Maduro. 299 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 5: When we went in there and we got Maduro, they 300 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 5: said that we use some microwave type techechnology, and all 301 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 5: of the people the guards dropped to their knees and 302 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 5: had blood come out of their ears and their noses 303 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: from this sensory device. So I think we're now just 304 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 5: starting to use a little bit more. It's a it's 305 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 5: a thing of the future. This is what we're going 306 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 5: to start seeing. 307 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 4: What I think is most exciting is it can disrupt 308 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 4: those drones. It can disrupt radar technology, and using this 309 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: against electronics I think is perfectly fair game. But the 310 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: problem is, Jerry, when you have technology like this, it 311 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: can also be used against you. 312 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: Just like the nuclear bomb. 313 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: You know, once you've unleashed it, you are desperately fearful 314 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 4: of having it be unleashed back upon you. And you 315 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: know when you were inflicting potentially horrific wounds on on on. 316 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: I mean it's indiscriminate, yes, against you know, the military army. 317 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: I think is perfectly valid. But you know, you got 318 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: to think a microwave has a pretty broad range. 319 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 5: I'm trying to find out where this is at. Oh, 320 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 5: so they've I'm gonna find this article. I'll find it 321 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 5: before next segment. But suppose we bought this technology off 322 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 5: the black market. 323 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: And I want to make sure that I reference it correctly. 324 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 5: Department of Homeland Security allegedly, and I will reference the 325 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 5: article so as we come back from break. 326 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: They bought this. 327 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 5: Somewhere and then used it in Venezuela for the first time. 328 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: This sounds like something we could have gotten from the Soviets. 329 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: Potentially, it sounds like a movie. But I want to 330 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: make sure I have it right. I do remember seeing 331 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: the article. I want to find it. 332 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: There was some other troubling reports coming from the conflict 333 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: in Iran. We may have made a mistake again, and Jerry. 334 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: History tends to repeat itself where the United States has 335 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: armed rebels foreign rebels overseas and it has turned out badly. 336 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: Just ask the people of Afghanistan after we armed the Taliban. 337 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: If you want to know. 338 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 5: Who we're gonna go to war with next, to see 339 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 5: who we have the invoice from. 340 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, in this case, it seems like we have sense 341 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: weapons to the Kurds in Iran to provide to Iranian protesters. 342 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: But according to the Trump administration, looks like the Kurds 343 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: they they might have kept the weapons. 344 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 8: The President also provided new details on what happened earlier 345 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 8: this year as the Iranian regime took to the streets 346 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 8: and slaughtered What the President tells me is forty five 347 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 8: thousand civilians in their own country. After that took place, 348 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 8: President Trump told me the United States sent guns to 349 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 8: the Iranian protesters. He tells me, we sent them a 350 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 8: lot of guns. We sent them through the Kurds, and 351 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 8: the President says he thinks the Kurds kept them. He 352 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 8: went on to say, we sent guns to the protesters, 353 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 8: a lot of them, and so a number of headlines 354 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 8: here from my conversation with President Trump, all of this 355 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 8: taking place more than a month into Operation Epic Fury. 356 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 8: I want to make sure I got this correctly. Are 357 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 8: you saying that the President told you that he sent 358 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 8: guns and the US government sent guns to the protesters 359 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 8: via the Kurdish, but the Kurdish kept some of the guns. 360 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: Correct. 361 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 8: The President tells me that the United States sent guns 362 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 8: to the Iranian protesters earlier this year. He says, we 363 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 8: sent them a lot of guns. We sent them through 364 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 8: the Kurds, and he thinks that the Kurds kept them. Remember, 365 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 8: the President made a commitment to the Iranian protesters who 366 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 8: were in the street to their country earlier this year. 367 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 8: Those images were circulating online of thousands of people who 368 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 8: were slaughtered at the hands of the Iranian regime. The 369 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 8: current regime, that is, he is attacking US forces as 370 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 8: we speak. 371 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 7: I guess I just picked a whole bouquet of oopsie daisies. 372 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: How Jerry, how do we keep making this mistake? Is 373 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: what I want to know. 374 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 4: We've given weapons to the talip bomb that later took 375 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: control of Afghanistan. The Obama administration helped arm the Mexican 376 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 4: drug cartels. He sent weapons, allowed them to procure and 377 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: then lost the weapons, sent them to drug cartels. We've 378 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: sent weapons to Nicaragua in the past, We've sent weapons 379 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 4: to Iran. It's too fun. Nicaragua too fun. The Contras. 380 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 4: Do you do you remember the Ali North scandal. 381 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, how about this one. 382 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 5: Do you remember when we started funding the rebels in 383 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 5: Syria and those guys let her became an offset ofvisis, 384 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 5: Like how about the people driving around right now in Afghanistan? 385 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: Until Yoda for runners. 386 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 4: History doesn't always repeat itself, but it often rhymes, and 387 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 4: that's I think what we're seeing with arming the Kurds 388 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 4: and the Kurds keeping the weapon. 389 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 5: Now to this point, the Kurds have played ball with 390 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 5: us for the most part, but now we know they 391 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 5: have weapons, and that's always a problem when you don't 392 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: know for anytime you harm it. 393 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime you give. 394 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: Weapons or emulation to anybody else, you just always run 395 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: the risk. And so far it seems like we've taken 396 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 5: the wrong side of that every time. 397 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend, 398 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: and that's been proven time and time again. And going 399 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: back to you know, Oliver North, the Iran Contra scandal, 400 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 4: when we armed Iran, we gave weapons to Iran, weapons 401 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: that may even be potentially used against us to this day, 402 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: and that was wonderfully summarized by this educational song. 403 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 7: In the eighties, there was Cold War trama. We bought 404 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 7: the Commies inside our runs with a contrast. Freedom was there, 405 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 7: presso we sent them lots of. 406 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: Money for guns and land muns. 407 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 7: Congress stuff the contra money for just because they moved 408 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 7: a teeny bit of fool. 409 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: But then a hero came schort. 410 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 7: His name was Oliver North. 411 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: Ian Reagan went. 412 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 7: Around the sissy Congress only oly Nor because he North 413 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 7: secretly sold missiles to a harmless country called Iran that 414 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 7: would always be a greatful ally. Then he gave the 415 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 7: profits to the Countrans genius, but the sales. 416 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: Were uncovered by the press. Hegan the north Win began. 417 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 7: To stress because what they did was technically high treason, 418 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 7: but it was totally justified. 419 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 4: Unforced airs on the part of American foreign policy. 420 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: Time and time again. 421 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: How many times do we have to repeat that the 422 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: the Middle East conflicts Allen do not seem to work 423 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: out in our favor. 424 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 5: Jerry for sure, And guess what we found that article. 425 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty six, Department of Homeland Security Investigations acquired 426 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 5: a mysterious handheld device to an undercover operation on the 427 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 5: black market. The device is at the center of a 428 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 5: Pentagon funded investigation due to links of Havana syndrome. You 429 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 5: remember that do I do and that was supposed to 430 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 5: be coming from Russia and they bought this thing for 431 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 5: eight figures tens of millions of dollars. Wow, And next 432 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 5: thing you know, Madero's people have quote unquote Havana syndrome. 433 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to ninety three WIBC. Stay tuned for 434 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: Jared Lewis coming up next with the news. 435 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in to ninety three WIBC. 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Jerry, 451 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: can you believe I mean candies get really pricey? 452 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 5: Well, the part that sticks out to me the most 453 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 5: is when does candy get pricey? 454 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Right? 455 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 5: Like, if you go the day before Halloween that bag 456 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 5: of Hershey's candy, all of a sudden, it's a half 457 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 5: a mortgage payment. 458 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: You want the big buck? 459 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 5: How much do you really love those kids that come 460 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: knock on your door because you're gonna pay forty fifty 461 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 5: sixty dollars a bag. 462 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: Well, the problem is that we are evolutionarily designed to 463 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: appreciate children or else. 464 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: You know, it would be easy to just leave them behind. 465 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 4: You know, you look at those cute little faces and 466 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 4: you let, oh, we'll just we'll spend the chocolate. We'll 467 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: spend money out for some kids, for some chocolate. Hershey 468 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: Bar has shot up from three ninety nine in twenty 469 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: twenty to eight twenty nine twenty twenty six. Price for 470 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 4: Easter caburet many eggs have gone from three forty nine 471 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: to six forty nine. Easter Eggs Reces Easter Eggs six 472 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 4: pack has gone from three ninety nine to six ninety nine, 473 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: cream eggs a four pack from three ninety nine to 474 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 4: seven twenty nine, and peeps, so we're just talking about 475 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: marshmallow fluff has gone from a dollar twenty five to 476 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: a dollar seventy five in six years. I mean, like 477 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: everything else at the grocery store, we continue to beat 478 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: plagued by inflation and this war and Iran hasn't done 479 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: us any favors, increasing the energy cost and by thereby 480 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 4: the production cost for literally everything we do. I mean, 481 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: petroleum is involved in everything, not just the manufacture of goods, 482 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: but also the packaging of goods. You gotta say it much, 483 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: the shipping, the transportation across the country, and that all 484 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 4: filters down and it affects you, It affects me, it 485 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 4: affects everybody. 486 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the problem. 487 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 5: And the independent truck driver who's delivering our goods and 488 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 5: services has to spend more for fuel. Therefore he's got 489 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 5: a pass that cost along. But you made a great 490 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 5: point here at the bottom of these prices. Sure, the 491 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 5: prices have gone up, but in a lot of cases, 492 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 5: the amount of whatever you've bought has gone down. The 493 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 5: cantbrea miny eggs shrink from ten ounce to nine ounce. 494 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 5: I like to order pizza. I am a get a 495 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 5: nacho cheese on the side every time I get pizza. 496 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 5: And I've noticed that the nacho cheese at Pizza Hut, 497 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 5: what's smaller than it used to be, but it costs 498 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 5: twice as much. 499 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: It's very true that the shrinkflation. The first time I 500 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 4: ever heard that term was during the Biden administration and 501 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 4: now just seems to be an average part of the 502 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 4: everyday lexicon, in order just to attempt to keep the 503 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: prices stable. But they're still not stable. They're still increasing anyway. 504 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 4: But they are also shrinking the packaging just to put 505 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: some kind of control on the skyrocketing cost of everything, 506 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 4: of every aspect of our lives. Jerry and the economy. 507 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: Although we got a rosy jobs report overall, according to 508 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 4: the Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, there appears to be 509 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 4: net zero job creation in the private sector. To the 510 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: extent that jobs are being created, so called it's done, 511 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: it's being done in the federal government, and that's at 512 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 4: a cost that comes from you, because that's taxpayer expense. 513 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: Here was the report from the Federal Reserve Chair. 514 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: The thing that I think good number of people in 515 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: the committee are concerned about. Is just the very very 516 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: low level of job creation. If you adjust what has 517 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: been the trend job creation over the past let's say 518 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: six months, If you adjust that for what we think 519 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: our staff thinks is the overstatement due to overcounting, effectively, 520 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: there's zero net job creation in the private sector. 521 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: Surely you can't be serious. 522 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: I am serious, and don't call me. 523 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: Surely that's not the news you want to hear, Jerry. 524 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know who to believe. 525 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: Dude, Let's just be honest. 526 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 5: They expected what sixty thousand jobs, they come back and 527 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 5: say we got three times more than that, and now 528 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 5: we have him coming out and saying it's effectively net zero. 529 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: I don't know who to believe. There's so many people talking. 530 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 5: You can't tell me one hundred and seventy eight thousand 531 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 5: jobs were all created in the government. 532 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: If they were, that's a problem. That's a problem. 533 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 4: Well, the numbers are most likely going to be revised lower. 534 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 4: That was a trick that was started by the Obama administration. 535 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 4: Remember they'd trot out these rosy jobs reports and then 536 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 4: a month or two later, so they get the benefit 537 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: of all the headlines, and then a month or two 538 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 4: later they'd oh, well, we revised him down. Turns out 539 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 4: there there was a correction. We didn't have the correct 540 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 4: We have a new one come out in thirty more days. 541 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: Exactly. 542 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Just bought kicking the can down the road. 543 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: Yes, And I tend to believe the Federal Reserve Chair, 544 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 4: especially when he has now been sounding the alarm over 545 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 4: the state of the national debt. And when the Federal 546 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 4: Reserve Chair is telling you that the government has been 547 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: using the magical money printing factory too much and too often, 548 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: I think that's a problem because they're the ones running 549 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 4: the money printing factory. 550 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 5: Isn't that funny, right, you're running the problem. You're bert, Hey, 551 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: you're using too much of our ink. 552 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: But we've seen the effects of what that magical money 553 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 4: printing factory does on the value of our dollar. And 554 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: so the largest portion of the debt has been driven 555 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: by Donald Trump. That's that's just a flat fact. He 556 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 4: is the opposite of a fiscal conservative. He spent his 557 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: life being a lifelong Democrat, and I think we see 558 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 4: that coming out in his fiscal policy. 559 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 5: I think that if we really wanted to get down 560 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: to the to the nuts and bolts of all this. 561 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: We would be head first going into the fraud that's 562 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 5: taking taking place across the country. 563 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: Those are also printed dollars. 564 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 5: Those are more than likely Federal Reserve printed dollars because 565 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: they're used for benefits. Right, They're not profit dollars or 566 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 5: not payroll dollars. Those are printed dollars given by the government. 567 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 5: Let's get into that, let's get rid of all of 568 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 5: the fraud, and let's see how much we really need 569 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 5: your printing machine. 570 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 4: Oh, don't you worry, Jerry, because coming up, I believe 571 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 4: it's an hour three we're going to cover the California fraud, 572 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 4: which is now eclipsing by many times the fraud that 573 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 4: was uncovered in Minnesota. 574 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: So just wait. 575 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 576 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: Yes, we will be. 577 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 4: Getting to the levels of fraud, waste, and abuse that 578 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: are effervescing from every corner of the country. But before 579 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 4: we do, I also wanted to cover a very interesting story, 580 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: and this was one that you sent. 581 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: This is not a good thing at all. 582 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no no, because it is the 583 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: state working in conjunction with the banking sector. In this case, 584 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: Mexican President Cloudy A. Shine Boum, which is go figure, Yeah, 585 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 4: Mexican President. Sometimes the jokes right themselves. But she made 586 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: this announcement and see if you can field some translation 587 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 4: for us there. 588 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 11: Jerry, let's less Travis and they're clappy. 589 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: She basically just said we're getting rid of cash. 590 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 11: Seemless famous Bermita and Alansarin. 591 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: Travense m. Yeah. 592 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 5: So anything, anything that's going to be used to be 593 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 5: used for public services in Mexico will no longer be 594 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 5: able to be paid for in cash. 595 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 4: Not just public services, but also gasoline if you go 596 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: to fill up your car in Mexico, no more cash allowed, 597 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: which is significant because they are a fairly cash dependent nation. 598 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 4: Cash used for roughly eighty percent of transactions in Mexico 599 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 4: according to estimates, So it's. 600 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: Kind of a big thing here. 601 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 5: We've talked about we don't want, we don't want the 602 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 5: digital we don't want the digital dollar. We don't want 603 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 5: the digital dollar, which leads me to a question that 604 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 5: I want to ask you. I wanted to bring this 605 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 5: up on is this anything on? Hammer and Nigel didn't 606 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: get a chance to The gas station I go to 607 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 5: has a sign on it that says due to the 608 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 5: phasing out of the penny. We will no longer be 609 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 5: accepting pennies. Wait, they don't accept pennies, Well, will no 610 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: longer pennies. 611 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: You should be forced to accept my currency. 612 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: It's our legal tender. 613 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 5: That's a sign on the Noblesville Speedway we will not 614 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: take your penny. 615 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: Those are some elitists up there in Noblesville. But I 616 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: don't think that's. 617 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: Company that's illegal. Yeah, well, it's legal tender. As long 618 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: as it's still being circulated, you should be able to 619 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 4: use your penny absolutely. 620 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 5: And now they're phasing out one of our coins. Mexico's 621 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 5: phasing out everything. 622 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: And this could potentially be laying the groundwork for an 623 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 4: all digital currency here in the United States, which would 624 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 4: be a disaster and would further empower the state to 625 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: track and monitor every little aspect of your life and 626 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: hold that over your head and exert even more con 627 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 4: And that's the real issue here for control. 628 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 5: First a digital currency, then comes a social credit score. 629 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and AI monitoring, which is also something we'll be 630 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 4: covering an hour three of the show. Lots to cover. 631 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 4: Stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen. Coming up next. I got 632 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: a Pressley Squad member says that eviction is an act 633 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 4: of violence. 634 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for that ridiculousness. 635 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 4: Up next, sat beat Us Boodse So it was time 636 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: for change. 637 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: Chewed the song and its ministers. 638 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: Stage producer keV coming through with the wonderful bump music 639 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: selection once again. Who doesn't want the holding stones? Thanks 640 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 4: for listening to ninety three WIVC. I'm Ethan Hatcher. That's 641 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 4: Jerry Lopez, and we wanted to discuss. Iana Presley, a 642 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: renowned member of the Squad, hadn't heard that socialist chirp 643 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: for a while, but she came out of the woodwork 644 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: once again, now saying that eviction is an act of violence. 645 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 12: Jerry, eviction is an act of violence and we have 646 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 12: to do everything to prevent it. It is devastating for 647 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 12: the families, It degrades the help of communities. There is 648 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 12: great stigma associated with it and affects your credit score. 649 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 13: Housing is a human right. It is a predictor of 650 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 13: health outcomes. It's essential for social and economic mobility, and 651 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 13: so many people when they receive a note to wit 652 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 13: or to vacate their homes, usually because of non payment 653 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 13: because wages are not keeping pace with inflation, they don't 654 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 13: know their rights, and a lot of. 655 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 12: Times they will just accept that notice to quit and lead. 656 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 13: And so my legislation is making sure that. 657 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 11: They have access to legal. 658 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 12: Housings because we've found that when tenants know their rights, 659 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 12: when they have access to legal counsel, we can usually 660 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 12: keep them safely housed no offense. 661 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: But it sounds like that's a comic gobbledy gook. 662 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 5: In this case, I'm gonna know my role and know 663 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 5: that you have multiple tenants, and I'm gonna let you 664 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 5: drive this one home because you're probably the way better 665 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 5: speak on it. 666 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: Why is it always an active violence to evict people 667 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 4: for not paying, but it's not an active of violence 668 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 4: to not pay. I feel pretty violated every sign somebody's 669 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 4: shacking up in my house using my stuff. Sometimes I 670 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: gotta pay for their utilities, their mortgage, their property taxes. 671 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 4: But it's not an active violence for them to stiff me. 672 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: It's an act of violence for me to kick them 673 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: out when they don't pay. That's ridiculous. I am so 674 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: tired of Aana Presley who doesn't have two snaps's to 675 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 4: rub together, and now threatening to provide legal representation. 676 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: For these people. A tax payer expense. 677 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 4: That's just going to cause rent to go up even 678 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: further and make life less affordable for those who can 679 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: least afford it, you know, Ron, thanks for listening to 680 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 4: ninety three WIBC, Ethan Hatcher and Jerry Lowe has one 681 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 4: hour down, two to go. 682 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: Don't miss a moment, Stay tuned