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Speaker 1: Each year, when the Colts schedule is released and we

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Speaker 1: it's a national party, and each team's social media department

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Speaker 1: The helmet tap four or four, so the Colts all

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Speaker 1: And then you think about it, Eddie, and I know

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Speaker 1: be in Eddy. I asked you this earlier, this game

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Speaker 2: I want to give the proper respect on who gave

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Speaker 2: you that paper. That's the program, very very important today.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, the Colts and the Tennessee Titans will be

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Speaker 1: The ride to kick off with JMV and the Colts

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Speaker 1: pregame huddle will be available on ninety three five and

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Speaker 1: one oh seven to five the Fans. Starting at twelve

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Speaker 1: thirty the Fan will have the Pacers at the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Speaker 1: Mark Boyle, Eddie Gill and Pat Boylan have all the

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Speaker 2: You appear hypnotic. No, I'm I'm excellent. I'm locked in.

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Speaker 2: a live show though, right, I'm capable of multitasking, Jake.

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Speaker 1: What are you? I am on the program today? By

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Speaker 1: the way, Joela Ericson going to join us from the

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Speaker 1: in November. And we've had this guy on before and

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Speaker 1: I personally believe on this the twenty second of October

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Speaker 1: London Johnson. London Johnson just spent three years in the

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Speaker 1: NBA G League. Why is this guy talking about the

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Speaker 1: my understanding is that and I know this actually because

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Speaker 5: But the thing is, like I think I think does it?

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Speaker 5: I think it probably hurt worse if you're a Mariners fan,

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Speaker 1: That one hurt worse. Now, if you're a Mariners fan,

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Speaker 5: It is a good hat. It's a great hat, like

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I have a ninety three World Series

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Speaker 1: does it not? That I am I am at the

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Speaker 1: very least a traditional bandwagoner? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: Ninety three Is that the year that they had Ricky

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Speaker 1: Bit, correct? Yeah, the most the most underrated, even though

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Speaker 5: So Josh Downs is going to practice today. He's still

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Speaker 5: in the concussion protocol, but the fact that he's practicing

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Speaker 5: end front, I would suggest that Sam Sebercom is probably

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Speaker 5: not likely for this week. Shane Seikin said he's week

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Speaker 5: think is that Jalen Jones is they're activating his twenty

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Speaker 5: And that made me wonder if maybe Jaylen Jones had

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Speaker 1: You know, you know what's interesting by the way, the

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Speaker 5: On ramps where your on ramping onto the highway.

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Speaker 5: most most times you're hitting a ramp and going up,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Joela, have you started to discover yet the fact

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Speaker 5: That's a that's an interesting question, I think. I think

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Speaker 5: feel like you can allow somebody to get at, you know,

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Speaker 1: Right correct, and likewise, you know, for example, though, take

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Speaker 5: do think Shane Syken is maybe paranoid in a good

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: So I think that Shane generally looks at these games

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Speaker 5: But I do think that probably comes into play sometimes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. So in other words, you you have to

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Speaker 1: Joel, have you ever had Joel A. Erickson is our

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Speaker 1: and poor guest line, have you ever had a dream

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Speaker 1: Or is this again my neuroticism?

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Speaker 4: The one, the one I.

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Speaker 5: Get even to this day, The one I get even

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Speaker 1: I know it like last day of school we have

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Speaker 5: No, it's it is high school, but it's like I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the one I have. Okay. So so my

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Speaker 1: And it's the opposite this year. Literally everything is going

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Speaker 1: Every all of it is Shane steike In. Now are

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Speaker 5: I think it's the second one.

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Speaker 5: I think that it's you know, with Anthony Richardson, there

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Speaker 5: And when you have and when you can always read

432
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Speaker 5: the picture and know what they're going to do. Steichen

433
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Speaker 5: is also good at having answers for that. Jones is

434
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Speaker 5: good at knowing what those answers should be and doing it.

435
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Speaker 5: So I think the biggest thing is just he has

436
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Speaker 5: a quarterback who can play football the way Shane Steiken

437
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 5: see football, and that's why we're seeing the offense look

438
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Speaker 5: the way it does.

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Speaker 1: And Joel, if you Joel A. Erickson is our guest,

440
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Speaker 1: if you've got to run ahead in the locker room,

441
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Speaker 1: you let me know here, Okay, but I'm curious of

442
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Speaker 1: this in your opinion, it is more important for Chris

443
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: Ballard here at the trade deadline, coming up to a

444
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Speaker 1: get a pass rusher, be get a corner, or see

445
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Speaker 1: none of the above.

446
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Speaker 5: I still think it's corner. I know, I know that

447
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 5: the options seem better at pass rusher, and maybe you

448
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 5: take maybe in a vacuum, you take the better player.

449
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 5: But even with Jones coming back, even with Ward coming back,

450
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 5: it just feels like the way things have gone at

451
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 5: corner this year, they've been they've been hit so hard

452
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 5: by injury that you've got to have another player there.

453
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Speaker 5: I mean, they're they're rotating Cameron Mitchell and Johnson Edwards

454
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Speaker 5: last week, and it just feels like they're there, they're

455
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Speaker 5: sin there, and I think you just want the player.

456
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Speaker 5: And the other thing about it is, if you look

457
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Speaker 5: back at this offseason, everything Chris Ballad has done to

458
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 5: this point has said we need to be super deep

459
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Speaker 5: at corner, by going out and getting Ward, by drafting Wally,

460
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Speaker 5: by getting Savian Howard, trading for Makai Blackman, like he

461
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 5: has consistently set like told us we need to have

462
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Speaker 5: corners for this defense. And for whatever reason, the people

463
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Speaker 5: in charge that God's in charge of the injuries are like, no,

464
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 5: we're going to keep ruining your cornerback position. But it

465
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Speaker 5: feels like that that what he's told us is that

466
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Speaker 5: he feels like they need more players at cornerback.

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Speaker 1: All the time.

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Speaker 5: And so I know it does. The options don't look

469
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Speaker 5: as good there, but I feel like the need is greater.

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Speaker 1: So Daniel Jones does not qualify for Comeback Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year because he was not injured. Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: That is correct. They changed that rule a couple of

473
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Speaker 5: years ago when Joe Flacco beat out tomar Hamlin in

474
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Speaker 5: an award that honestly should have gone to Baker Mayfield.

475
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Speaker 5: But uh, they changed that rule. It has to be

476
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Speaker 5: coming off of some physical malady.

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Speaker 1: You know what. They should come up with a new

478
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Speaker 1: I'm coming up with it. Do we have the breaking

479
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: news on her? By chance, Eddie, This just and Daniel

480
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: Jones is now eligible for a new NFL award that

481
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Speaker 1: was created by ninety three to five one oh seven five.

482
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Speaker 1: The fans shake Querry, which is simply called the not

483
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Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the Year, but in fact his old

484
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Speaker 1: team sucked and he did an award, right. I like that.

485
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Speaker 1: That's a great awards. And here's the thing. Every player

486
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Speaker 1: that used to play for the New York Giants is

487
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Speaker 1: instantly eligible they are.

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Speaker 5: I cannot believe that this that that Brian Dabele couldn't

489
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Speaker 5: figure out what shame Steichen has figured out that there's

490
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Speaker 5: a way to use Daniel Jones' obsessive preparation pre snap

491
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Speaker 5: to always give him the right answers. I just I

492
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 5: don't understand what was going on there. Also, the other

493
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 5: thing is, if you think back to what he was

494
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Speaker 5: in New York, they treated him like he was a

495
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 5: run only quarterback, right, and the Colts are treating him

496
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Speaker 5: like the pocket quarterback. And the second option is being

497
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Speaker 5: way more successful than the first one. Like, did they

498
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 5: just not understand? Did Brian Dabell just not understand what

499
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones was like at all?

500
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Speaker 1: The other thing that's interesting is the much maligned and

501
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Speaker 1: I'll give Chris ballad credit here, Joel, that offensive line

502
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: for the Colts is also a Daniel Jones deserves all

503
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: the flowers, but that offensive line man, they have absolutely

504
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: delivered for them.

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Speaker 5: Those two picks that he made in the middle rounds

506
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four, where they took Mac Gonzalvez in

507
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 5: the third round and they took Tanner Bordolini in the

508
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: fourth round, and neither guy really had a spot in

509
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 5: the starting lineup, and at the time, I think we

510
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 5: all said, like, this is a pick for the future,

511
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 5: you know, for next year when they don't have these guys.

512
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 5: But the fact that he made those picks recognized that

513
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 5: those guys were the guys they needed, and made those

514
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 5: picks and set them up for this year, I think

515
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 5: is maybe the most underrated part of how this offense

516
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 5: is playing.

517
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Speaker 1: Most importantly, before you go into the locker room World Series,

518
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: you're rooting for the Blue Jays or you're rooting for

519
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers.

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00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 5: I am not rooting for the Death Stars.

521
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: It is the fifth highest payroll in Major League Baseball,

522
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: by the way Toronto. But yeah, I know, but you can't.

523
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 5: Like the Dodgers are like the Yankees were when I

524
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 5: was a kid, Like it just feels like they can

525
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 5: you know, like they're they're They're in the World Series.

526
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Speaker 5: And two headlines I saw on social media were like

527
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 5: the Dodgers expected to be the number one player for

528
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 5: this free agent and you're like, come on, just.

529
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Speaker 2: Just stop, Yle Tucker.

530
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Speaker 1: Their payroll is two hundred and ninety eight million dollars

531
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Speaker 1: higher than the Brewers. I think that's right, right, and

532
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Speaker 1: that doesn't include three and a half billion dollars that

533
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: show hey Otani gets in like five years after he retires.

534
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 5: Right, they had six players on the roster whose contracts

535
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 5: were worth more like their individual contract was worth more

536
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 5: than the brewers' payroll.

537
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Speaker 1: Entirely unbelievable. All right, well if they if the Blue

538
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: Jays win, I am told, if the Blue Jays win,

539
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: the beer ferry might actually deliver you some Canadian beer.

540
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 5: Oh well, okay, yeah, wh is even more now?

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Speaker 1: By all right, Joe, we appreciate it as always.

542
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: You bet, thanks for having me on, Guys Joel A.

543
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: Erickson from the Indianapolis Star and the Java House Peel

544
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: and poor gas line. All right, A lot to get

545
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: to with that for the Colts, But I do want

546
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: to get back into this situation. Yesterday, Scott Dolson was

547
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: on This Morning the Athletic Director of Indiana and talk

548
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: to the Fan Morning Show with of course Jeff Ricker,

549
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen and James Boyd about just nil and mostly

550
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: what he was saying was just Indiana in terms of

551
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: their incredible alumni support group. But I think there are

552
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: two things that come into play here that continue to

553
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: kind of divide in college athletics when it comes to nil.

554
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: And yesterday a story that just I think kind of

555
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: went as I'd mentioned, a little bit off the radar,

556
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: and I want to get more into what exactly it means.

557
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: I'll explain all of that on the other side here

558
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: and again, Elliott bloom Perdue coming up two o'clock. Good,

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00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: Terri Steiner coming up hour from now here on a

560
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: Wednesday edition Quaring Company on the Fan. I was reading

561
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Speaker 1: something the other day and I find it very very

562
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Speaker 1: interesting if you look at and I get the fact

563
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: that this gets into a nuanced area that is probably

564
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: you know, there are a million different tentnacles to it.

565
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: But an article that I recently read top twenty five

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Speaker 1: budgets and nil collectives in college football. I'm just using

567
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: football as an example here, but football, okay, football more

568
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: often than not is the bigger at most schools. Football

569
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: obviously has a higher operating budget, and football as well

570
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: is the bigger revenue generator because of the television contracts.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously, you know, even though there are fewer

572
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Speaker 1: games that the huge number of people that go in

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Speaker 1: the tail getting all football is a more part of

574
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Speaker 1: the lifestyle of a school, oftentimes than basketball for the

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00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: most part. But listen to the schools that I'm about

576
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: to name. These are the schools with the largest nil

577
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: collectives and by basically bank account Okay, Illinois, Washington, Louisville,

578
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Iowa, Florida State, Oregon, Kentucky, Arkansas, Auburn, Tennessee, Virginia,

579
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Speaker 1: Michigan State, Indiana, Penn State, Oklahoma, Clemson, Florida, Alabama, Michigan, Texas,

580
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: A and m Georgia, LSU and Ohio State. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: under the assumption that private schools don't need to release

582
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: their collectives because they're private, but most of those are

583
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: big state universities, and I do think that there is

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Speaker 1: benefit to that. You go to a school like in Indiana,

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00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: like a Michigan State, Georgia, Alabama. There are obvious exceptions here,

586
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: but to a great extent, going to those schools and

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00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: the alumni base usually stay closer within the market than

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00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: do students at Stanford No tre Dame, you know, for

589
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: that Duke schools like that are so specified and so

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00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: academically coveted that their graduates then disperse elsewhere. And I'm

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00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: not saying that a degree from Indiana doesn't allow you

592
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: to get a job anyware. I'm not saying that, but

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Speaker 1: if you are going to a Stanford, a Duke, a

594
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, whatever it might be, number one pretty good

595
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: odds that you're from anywhere across the country. And number

596
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: two pretty good odds that you are then going to

597
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: go back to wherever it was that you grew up

598
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: or some other area that is paying you a high

599
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: dollar job right out of school that is miles and

600
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: states away from where you went to school. And that

601
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: sounds crazy until you think about this when you go

602
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: to an Indiana and you work in an office where

603
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Speaker 1: the vast majority of people that you work with spent

604
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Speaker 1: their Saturday going to the Indiana game or the Purdue

605
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: game or the Kentucky game, or you went to Louisville,

606
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: and the same holds true, and you are around and

607
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Speaker 1: embedded by and still part of a lot of the

608
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: people that are following the team of the school that

609
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: you went or you were within driving range to go

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Speaker 1: and go down for games. It's still because your college

611
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: of attendance and graduation becomes a bigger part of your

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00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: social life and your culture in those circumstances than if

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00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: you were to graduate from Indiana and then go take

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00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: a job in Denver or San Diego. Yes, you are

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00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: still an Indiana fan, and yes, but you're kind of

616
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: on an island where you go to work. You're like,

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00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Indiana has a big win on Saturday, and you get

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Speaker 1: to work and you're like, oh my gosh, do you

619
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: watch the Indiana game? And everybody else there's like, yeah,

620
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: I went to Colorado. I mean I saw it. That's cool,

621
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Speaker 1: they won, right, you know it. So therefore, you are

622
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: less inclined to feel the investment that would lead you

623
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: to make a financial contribution that allows your university to

624
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: have a huge nil collective. And if you look at

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00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: those schools that have that big bank account, more often

626
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Speaker 1: than not it's those that have the closest access to

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Speaker 1: the majority of their alumni base. Indiana has a huge

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00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: elem my base across the country, no doubt about it,

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00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: but its athletic prowess would be more significant to those

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00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: within the immediacy than those that are living in Boise,

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00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: Idaho now. And so as a result of that, I

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00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: think that those schools have a major advantage. And it's

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00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: for that reason that in Indiana when it came to

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00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: this new era of the nil collective and the basically

635
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: pay for play, they were ahead of the curve. Truthfully,

636
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: Scott Dolson and the administration in Indiana had things in

637
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: place so that it was rip off the lid and

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00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: go because they foresaw where we were headed and where

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00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: we were headed. I think yesterday took a major fork

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00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: in the road, and I think it's going to impact

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00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: and impacts basketball. Could be advantage Indiana, could be advantaged

642
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: Kansas here, it could be avantaged Kentucky. But yesterday something

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00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: happened that is a major fork in the road, and

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00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: I am totally under belief that it is going to

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00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: be something that years from now we're going to look

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00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: back on and say that was another watershed moment. I'll

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Speaker 1: explain what I mean by that, and we'll get back

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Speaker 1: into what we were talking about of what players could

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Speaker 1: be available for the Colts. We'll do that in about

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Speaker 1: fifteen now. For whatever reason, Eddie, I was and I'm not,

651
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: but I had a couple of yawns there when we

652
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Speaker 1: started the show. Watch how easy this is? You ready?

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Speaker 1: You know this?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going with the Colombian This is my favorite,

656
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Speaker 1: the Colombian col brew, but also the Wrangler Energy outstanding

657
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Speaker 1: from Daba House combining them. No, I just imaginoing everybody

658
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Speaker 1: how easy it is boom right there and the coffee

659
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Speaker 1: is outstanding?

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Speaker 2: Was it Ben Ditel up on the fifth floor in

661
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Speaker 2: sales that recommended combining like the the Liquid Science and uh.

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Speaker 1: Eder energy together. Swamp water is what they call it

663
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Speaker 1: over at ed Carpenter Raising. That is because the Liquid

664
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Speaker 1: Science Arctic freeze and the Wrangler energy and that way

665
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Speaker 1: you're hydrated and woken up at the same time.

666
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Speaker 5: It is.

667
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you it's that easy. If you just

668
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: saw that on the YouTube channel, how easy it is

669
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Speaker 1: to do the peeling poor Java House Jake twenty five

670
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Speaker 1: is the discount code all right at java house dot com.

671
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: So yesterday and so when I was talking about all

672
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: of that in the build up here on the NIL yesterday,

673
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: the University of Louisville became the second program now to

674
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: get a verbal commitment and then sign to their roster

675
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: a player out of the G League. Now, the reason

676
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: this to me is significant, Jake, calm down, So a

677
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: player is coming out of the G League, but follow

678
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: the rules here buddy, pay attention to the rules. Okay.

679
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: The NCAA has said, okay, listen, we can no longer

680
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: have this hypocrisy of saying that players are in eligible

681
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: if they have been paid elsewhere because they're no longer amateurs.

682
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: That was, like, you know, an Olympic rule. Obviously that

683
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: went away with the Dream Team, right And in college basketball,

684
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: if you get compensation for something or you are part

685
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: of a financial compensation, I'm going by the old rules,

686
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: you're ineligible. Steve Alford poses for a calendar, mister November

687
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: for a fundraiser for a sorority, misses a game against Kentucky,

688
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: Bill your own irony, But the smallest of things. Recruit

689
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: got a free pizza on a recruiting visit, or an

690
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: assistant coach paid for his parents to get an air

691
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: flight to come and visit the school. NCAA violation ineligible.

692
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson is the Heisman Trophy winner and the Tampa

693
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers say we want to fly you in to

694
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Speaker 1: interview you about making you the number one pick in

695
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: the draft, and he says, I'll do that, except for

696
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: I want to play baseball in the spring for Auburn

697
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay. The Buccaneers say, no, price problem, it's football,

698
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: not baseball. That's not going to jeopardize your eligibility. They

699
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: pay and fly him to Tampa Bay, put him up

700
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Speaker 1: in a hotel, take him out to dinner. The NCAA says,

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00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: you're ineligible now for baseball, bo Jackson, because you took

702
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: money and you compromised your amateur athleticism. Those have gone

703
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: out the window because of the Edobannon ruling of name

704
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: image likeness, and at the time that ed Obannon sued

705
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: for name image likeness compensation because his name, image and

706
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: likeness were part of a video game, as were players

707
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: all across college basketball. At the time, it was okay, listen,

708
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: you can give him a little stipend, little extra money.

709
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: If they're selling the jersey in the bookstore or they're

710
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: putting their name on a video game, these players should

711
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: be able to get money to go to a movie

712
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: or take their friends out for pizza. That was the

713
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: initial thought instantly, and I mean it went from zero

714
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: to one thousand instantly in terms of the miles an hour.

715
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: Instantly that turned into hey, did you hear the quarterback

716
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: is leaving Tennessee because he wanted four point seven million

717
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: a year and now he's at ECLA and he's making

718
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: a million and a half. He took a pay cut,

719
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Speaker 1: but he's you know, et cetera. Man, Kansas just signed

720
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: a point guard and there's rumor that he's making eight

721
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to sign and the roof was blown

722
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: off of it, the lid was blown off of it,

723
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: because how did you govern at that point? Once the

724
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: toothpaste is out of the tube. And yes, right now,

725
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: the NCAA is saying that you can go into the

726
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Speaker 1: G League and then come out of the G League

727
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Speaker 1: and go back into college basketball, so long as you

728
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Speaker 1: meet the following criteria. You were never drafted by an

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Speaker 1: NBA team, you were never given a full NBA contract,

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Speaker 1: and you are within five years of your high school graduation.

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Speaker 1: You meet those requirements and you're on your way. You

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Speaker 1: are eligible in college basketball. And for right now, you

733
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: could say, okay, so that's you're talking about a very

734
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: small percentage of player, a very small number of guys

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Speaker 1: that are going to go from high school into the

736
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Speaker 1: G League, not get any sort of an NBA contract,

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Speaker 1: and then within that five year window decide they want

738
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Speaker 1: to go back to college. But what about this? What

739
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: about a player as is the case here, I believe

740
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Speaker 1: that starts in college, leaves early, goes undrafted, doesn't get drafted,

741
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Speaker 1: so signs in the G League for a year or two,

742
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Speaker 1: and then decides to go back because they're like, you

743
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: know what, I still got two years of eligibility left,

744
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: which is what is you're going to start seeing more

745
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: of Number one? Can you imagine now if you have

746
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: a player at Indiana, Purdue, wherever it may be, Elliott

747
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: Bloom's going to join us from Purdue in about an hour.

748
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: I want to think this will be an interesting discussion

749
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: how you navigate this. So you you sign a player,

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Speaker 1: and that player, after his freshman year, says I'm going

751
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: to the league, and he declares himself for the NBA draft. Now,

752
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: it used to be that if it looked like you

753
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: weren't going to be drafted in the NBA, you had

754
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: to pull your name out and then you went to college.

755
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: So now what if a guy says I'm going in

756
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: no matter what. So he goes in, he goes undrafted,

757
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: he signs with the main Red Clause, he plays there

758
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: for three years, and then he says they want to

759
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: go back to Duke.

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00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: I don't think you can do that. I think once

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00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: you forego any future eligibility.

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00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Incorrect. Yesterday it was ruled so long as you were

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Speaker 1: within five years of your high school graduation and you

764
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Speaker 1: have not signed an NBA contract. If you are in

765
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: the G League and you were not drafted by an

766
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: NBA team, you are eligible to go back to college.

767
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: There are now two players that have done so. Now

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00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: in addition to that, what I'm saying is this, this

769
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: is introducing a slippery slope. Because when we initially said that,

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00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: Nil and the NCAA said, we're gonna allow for some

771
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: stipends to take place, but we're gonna like figure out

772
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: some sort of a limit on it. But the highway

773
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: was moving way too fast, and it was they couldn't

774
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: just merge over from the treadmill onto the highway because

775
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: it was moving too fast, and each time they tried,

776
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: they fell down. So with this, this is and you're

777
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: gonna laugh when I say this, this is eventually going

778
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: to and I'm not saying that any player would want

779
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: to do this, but eventually, what stops a Romeo Langford

780
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: from deciding he wants to go back to Indiana finish

781
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: his eligibility because his NBA career has not taken off

782
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: the way that he thought. What stops a Zion Williamson

783
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: from saying, I'm tired of the pros. You know what,

784
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: I regret that I never got Duke to a national championship.

785
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm going back to Duke.

786
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: The London Johnson is the guy you're talking about Louisville.

787
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: He did not go to college. He went straight to

788
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: the G League.

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00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 1: Understood. But what I'm saying is that's what I'm talking about, Eddie.

790
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is right now, the ruling is so

791
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: long as you the NCUBA has come out and said,

792
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: look at the one at Santa Clara. The NCUBLEA has

793
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: come out and said, the only rulings that we're putting

794
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: on it right now is that you cannot have signed

795
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: an NBA contract. You cannot have you have to be

796
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: within five years of your high school graduation. And in

797
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: addition to that, you within five years of the graduation,

798
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: no NBA contract, and you could not have been drafted.

799
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is each time that the NCUBA

800
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: rules and tries to govern these kinds of things, it

801
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: is determined a blurred line that a court comes out

802
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: and says is in defiance of the individual's choice. And

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00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: in this particular case, the NCUBA yesterday came out and said,

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00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: those are the only parameters we're putting on it. So

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00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: if you are somebody that played in college went into

806
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: the G League, so long as you did not meet it,

807
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: so long as you meet that criteria, you can go back.

808
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Tom Izzo went off on this because he's like, where

809
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: do we draw the line? The line now is so

810
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: the line is all written in pencil. Everything is And

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00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: I know it's ludicrous to say, and tom Izzo was

812
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: making the joke I'm just gonna go get Magic Johnson

813
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: and bringing back because he still has eligibility. That sounds ludicrous,

814
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: But if anybody challenges it, you know which way it's

815
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: going to go. And I just think it starts to become.

816
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: What it is doing is it is now making officially

817
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: what we have already known, and that is that the

818
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: NCAA is in fact is it is again And this

819
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: is my whole point on it. It is my belief

820
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: and I've felt this forever. North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville.

821
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: You could put Indiana in this category. UCLA the big

822
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: brand college basketball programs, the big brand if we're talking

823
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: the basketball side of things, as I talk about all

824
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: the time, the Hat World Conference, those are the schools

825
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: that you walk into Hat World and Butte Montana and

826
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: they've got them hanging on the wall because that's what

827
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: sells North Carolina, Notre Dame in football obviously, but everybody

828
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: knows which ones I'm talking about, the blue blood basketball

829
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: bread winning programs. It would not surprise me in any way,

830
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: shape or form if we are on the precipice now

831
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: of eventually those schools leaving the NCAA and becoming their

832
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: own g league and paying top dollar in an NBA

833
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: sanctioned minor league. I think it's heading there, and I

834
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: think it's heading there faster than anybody can imagine, And

835
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: it would not surprise me at all if literally that's

836
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: where we are where you're gonna go play for UCLA

837
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: North Carolina. The only thing holding those schools probably still

838
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: within it is March Madness and the money that comes

839
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: from the television content tracks of it. But if the

840
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: NBA starts sanctioning in the other way than Katie bar

841
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: the door back into the Colts and who may be

842
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: in or out against Tennessee next Hey Jake. The NCAA

843
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: also determined that since the G League salary is typically

844
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: around forty K, it's so small that it just covers

845
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: living expenses. That's why if they didn't sign an NBA contract,

846
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: they will be eligible in college. That's my point, though,

847
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: is that it is a slippery, slippery slope, and because

848
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is this the precedent, and I'm a

849
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: big believer in precedent. The precedent says that each time

850
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: the NCAA has tried to draw a line in the sand,

851
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: that immediately that line gets blurred out by somebody taking

852
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: it one step further and challenging it. And this is

853
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: the introduction to the challenge of somebody saying, but if

854
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: you're allowing somebody because the G League salary isn't big enough,

855
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: every player in the league is convinced they should be

856
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: in the NBA, or every player in the G League

857
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: went into the G League because they originally thought they

858
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: were an NBA player, and it is going to be

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00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: tom Izzo is absolutely one hundred percent correct. There's a

860
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: reason tom Izzo's livid about this, and there's a reason

861
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: he has spoken up because what often happens in any

862
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: line of work, in any business, in any light of

863
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: work or any business, oftentimes the one who is the

864
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: most vociferous about legitimate concern is the one who has

865
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: the least time left and the most equity to be

866
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: able to stand up and say something without challenge. And

867
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: that's what tom Izzo is. He is the coach that

868
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: is saying, look, this is walking into a very dangerous headwind.

869
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: And the NCAA is terrified, terrified from a football standpoint

870
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: that the big ten schools and at eighteen of them

871
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: and the sec notably within you throw in say no

872
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: tre Dame. They're terrified that they're going to succeed and

873
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: say we don't need you anymore. Let's do our own deal,

874
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: do her own thing. And if Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, Indiana,

875
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: North Carolina, UCLA, Texas and basketball, because Texas has a

876
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: huge athletic department, if they just said, you know what,

877
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: the NCAA Tournament and March Madness is awesome. But the

878
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: only time typically that we like are part of the

879
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: highlight reel of it is if we get beat in

880
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: the first round by Abilene Christian. So we're just going

881
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: to start our own league and pay players as much

882
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: as we can, and we'll just call it the G

883
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: two G two League. Rolling the money, baby. You think

884
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: Nike and Gatorade and all those wouldn't start funding that,

885
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: let's go. I just think it's a slippery slope. And

886
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: I think tom Izzo is right in his critique of it,

887
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: because he absolutely sees exactly that. I'll bet you one

888
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: hundred bucks if you asked him point blank, what is

889
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: the primary reason why you are concerned about players signing

890
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: from the G League to Louisville or whatever else is

891
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: he is saying. It's not about what I think London

892
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: Johnson's going to do for Louisville in the fact that

893
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: he's not playing for Michigan State. It's about what the

894
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: precedent says. This could lead to the Colts in Tennessee

895
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday, and again, if you're just joining

896
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: us on the program, thank you Eddie. On Sunday, the

897
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: coltson Tennessee Titans will be available at our sister station

898
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: ninety seven to one Hank FM. Entire game on Hank

899
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: FM ninety seven to one our sister station, the ride

900
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: to kick off with JMV and the Colts pregame huddle

901
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: will be still on the fan beginning at twelve thirty,

902
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: but this radio station, so you go pregame fan, then

903
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: you go totality of game on Hank FM. Then the

904
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: fan will have the Pacers beginning at six thirty as

905
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: they take on the Minnesota Timberwolves. The reason being, and

906
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to repeat this literally to myself, not

907
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: for you folks. I trust and I believe in the

908
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: intellect of all of you. It's myself that I don't

909
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: trust in remembering stuff. And Sunday's game being a four

910
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: o'clock kicker, four twenty five, whatever it may be. But

911
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: the late game, the late game on Sunday between the

912
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 1: Colts and Titans, is when I am seventy four years old.

913
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: If I'm still here, then I will say, if someone

914
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: says to me, Jake, over the course of your lifetime,

915
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: tell me the things that most surprised you, Well, I

916
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 1: never thought I would see the day where you could

917
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: make an instantaneous phone call to the other side of

918
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: the world and actually look at the person's face while

919
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: you're talking.

920
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 5: To them.

921
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: That blew me away? What else? I can't believe that

922
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, on October twenty second, I found

923
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: out that the Colts and the Tennessee Titans are the

924
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: late game. Now. I know that this was like announced

925
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: when the scheduling came out, but I cannot be alone

926
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: in saying to myself, Wait, Sunday at four o'clock, the

927
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: four o the late game the Colts and Titans. Usually

928
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: that's the game that it's like, let's get that one

929
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 1: over with, because I don't think that Tennessee is necessarily

930
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: and who knows. I mean, it's the NFL any given Sunday.

931
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: I get that, but matchup wise, there appears to be

932
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: a huge chasm between these two. Do we know the

933
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: points spread right now, Eddie fourteen and a half. I mean,

934
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: that's massive in the NFL, That's a twenty nine point

935
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: game in college. What we know for the Colts the

936
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: following from Joela Erickson just about an hour ago when

937
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: he was out at the Colts complex. He let us

938
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: know this. Jalen Jones, the window for him to begin

939
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: practicing again is now open, coming off of the injury

940
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: he was coming off of with the hamstring and they

941
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: are going to exercise pardon the pun that window. So

942
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Jones will be brought back into the practice field.

943
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: And that's not to say that he is going to

944
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: be immediately available, but that is encouraging news because that

945
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: defensive backfield has been so depleted. In addition to the

946
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: Josh Downs is practicing today. He is still in the

947
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: concussion protocol, but he is practicing today. Others that we're

948
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: looking out for Ashton Dulham with the chest injury. Samson Ebuguban.

949
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: I can never say that lastcom, I know, but I

950
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: always want to say ecubam ebucom I'm Matt Taylor. I'll

951
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: give him all the credit in the world. And I've

952
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: got to say names in racing sometimes that are tricky.

953
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: But Samson ebguba eb, I can't say itcom huh ebucom

954
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: Samson ebcom Yep. It's the B that throws me off

955
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: because there's no B or P in the first But

956
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: then you feel like there Samson ebcom there you go.

957
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: I know, but I'll still trip it up either way.

958
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: Uh knee injury, and I don't believe that he is

959
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: going back out today. We are still awaiting on that

960
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: in terms of where they stand. But when you look

961
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: at the Titans, you know cam Ward is I do

962
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: think that what you see in cam Ward and with

963
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: the Titans is what we hear so often about quarterbacks

964
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: making the jump into the NFL, and it goes back

965
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: to just simply window time. Oftentimes. I think when a

966
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: player at the college level just has an athleticism that

967
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: is so much faster than everyone else on the field,

968
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: it makes for a tougher learning curve when you get

969
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: into the pros because you just have always relied on

970
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: being a step ahead of everybody, and in the NFL

971
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: that instantly evens out, and now you've got to rely

972
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: on the things that collegiately you never had to take

973
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: advantage of. Trevor Lawrence is a really good example of

974
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: this as well, not from an athletics standpoint, but as

975
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: I've talked about the athleticism of his receivers in college

976
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: when Trevor Lawrence was at and listen, I think everybody

977
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: knows what I think of Trevor Lawrence, but when Trevor

978
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: Lawrence was in college, he was throwing at nearly all

979
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: times to receivers that were a step ahead of whoever

980
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: was guarding them. He didn't have to think about windows.

981
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: The Peyton Manning line of when Peyton Manning went through

982
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: his rookie camp and he goes back to Tom Moore

983
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: and Tom Morris says, why did you not uncork that pass?

984
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: And Peyton Manning says, that guy wouldn't open, and Tom

985
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: Moore says, he's NFL open. He just was in Tennessee open.

986
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: And I think for cam Ward the combination of a

987
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: understanding when guys are open and b always having being

988
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: able at the collegiate level to I mean, wonderful talent,

989
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: wonderful player, but part of what made him so good

990
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: in college was the fact that he was literally a

991
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: step ahead of everyone else. That's why you got to

992
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: give a ton of credit to Lamar Jackson. You know,

993
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: remember Bill Pullion saying Lamar Jackson was a receiver coming

994
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: out of college, and Lamar Jackson gets into the NFL

995
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: and his athleticism and his ability to be basically a

996
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: cheat code immediately translated that is so rare. You know,

997
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: you could probably go back and look and I'm sure

998
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: like in his room in his time coming into Baltimore,

999
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: it was not instantaneous per se. But he looked like

1000
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: the of course, he also is still a step ahead

1001
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: of everybody, right, I mean like the athleticism for him

1002
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: did immediately transfer with advantage, but the feel for the game.

1003
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: If there was a learning curve for him, it did

1004
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: not seem like a huge one because he immediately was like, whoa,

1005
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: this guy is playing right away and playing at a

1006
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: high level. But I just I said off the top

1007
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: of the show, and I almost feel guilty about it.

1008
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: I almost feel guilty in admitting the fact that like

1009
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: I feel like an you tell me if you agree

1010
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: or disagree. I feel like it's a bye week and

1011
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: that's such a dangerous thing in the NFL. And I

1012
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: don't mean that's that is even like a disrespect per

1013
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: se to the Titans. But they're not any good? Like

1014
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: what area do they jump out at you? Any Oh

1015
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: you're talking to me. Sorry, I was just trying to

1016
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: think of something. You're trying to think of any area

1017
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: or any reason why the Tennessee Titans alarm you.

1018
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to think. I was just me

1019
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: trying to compute something there. They have a coaching change,

1020
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: they have a nacoy is their new coach.

1021
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a young quarterback that you know what

1022
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, there's just not a thing about it.

1023
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: And then you look at it when you look at

1024
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: the cold schedule, and you start to wonder. As I've

1025
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: talked about, I mean, I do think that if there's

1026
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: one area I don't believe in trap games in the NFL,

1027
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: college maybe not in the NFL, But when you look

1028
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: at it, Okay, then they got Pittsburgh. Are you looking

1029
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: ahead to that? I don't even think the Pittsburgh jumps

1030
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: out at you that much.

1031
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they're an interesting one because obviously they have

1032
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, they have TJ. Watt, and I think, hey,

1033
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: what Heigh Smith should be Not hey what Heigh Smith?

1034
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: That's the NBA.

1035
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: But Alex he Heismith should be coming back soon for them.

1036
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: He got injured in their first game and he's been

1037
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: on the injured reserve and I know he'll be back eventually.

1038
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: Got DK Metcalf. They've got some players, but I still

1039
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: don't know if they're for real or not. Like we're

1040
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: talking about yesterday, there's just so many teams in that

1041
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: tier of they could be good, they could be bad.

1042
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: I thought I thought Pittsburgh would be the team that

1043
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: we talked about it when we were doing all these teams.

1044
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: You know, who's going to be the surprising, most upsetting

1045
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: whatever that could you know, get off the rails just

1046
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: because of the fact you have Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf.

1047
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: Has that all gonna work. But they lost on Thursday

1048
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: Night football coming out of the bye week to Cincinnati

1049
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: and second week with Joe Flacco, and their schedule is

1050
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: about to get immensely tough, like they hadn't played anybody

1051
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: really in the first four games of the year, five

1052
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: games of the year.

1053
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: This, by the way from JR. Jake, you did your

1054
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: vacation story about the cold schedule two weeks ago. No,

1055
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna mention it all the time. The fact that,

1056
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: like the because that's what I was talking it's pertinent

1057
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: because I was saying, I go on vacation when it

1058
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: is on the bye week, and then I look at

1059
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: it and I'm like, man, I probably should have scheduled

1060
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: it this week because it feels like a bye week.

1061
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: It just feels like a week where I can't be

1062
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: the only one that to me is what's interesting is

1063
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: the four o'clock start is I'm like, man, it feels

1064
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: like a game that like everybody else is like yeah.

1065
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you're excited to go to the Colts game,

1066
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: and it's awesome to go to an NFL game and

1067
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: they are playing at such a high level that every

1068
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: game is massive, and it's awesome that they are the

1069
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: story of the NFL. I mean, they're the best story

1070
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now. The two best stories in football,

1071
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: the NFL and college are both right here in Central Indiana.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying is, Man, I have to schedule

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01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: my vacation every year during the bye week. I should

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01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: have scheduled it this week because that's what it feels like.

1075
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I want to be there

1076
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: because they have a chance to go seven to one

1077
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: and then go into Pittsburgh at that point. Now, which games, Eddie,

1078
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: If you look at it, there are three to me

1079
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: that really jump out if you had to pick three

1080
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: games going forward that are most likely. And I can't

1081
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: remember what time of year it is when the NFL

1082
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: can start flexing games, but games that feel like primetime

1083
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: matchups they are.

1084
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 4: They can do it.

1085
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: Whatever they can do it whenever.

1086
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: Now primetime matchups on the cold schedule that you're asking me, Yes,

1087
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: three games. Obviously, Kansas City, Seattle, San Francisco's already there.

1088
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: I can't even come up with.

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01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: Third Pittsburgh name. Maybe maybe I think the Pittsburgh game

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01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: is pretty big, don't you? In what regard? Well, I

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01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: mean first and foremost, because the Steeler what's the Steelers record?

1092
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: They're four and two? Yeah, I mean, so there, the

1093
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: Steelers are right there. I mean the Packers this week

1094
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football, then they have the Colts next week.

1095
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: I would imagine that that's one of the more marquee

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: matchups of that week.

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Speaker 2: Also, I can't imagine they would be flexed with the

1098
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: Colts because so they're on Sunday Night Football this week

1099
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: against the Packers, Colts and Steelers tentatively scheduled for one o'clock,

1100
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: and then they're back on Sunday Night Football the following

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: week a Chargers.

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Speaker 1: You're probably right there.

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: There's no way that they're gonna flex them and be

1104
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night Football for three straight weeks.

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01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: That's fair. But I do think that that it just

1106
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: feels like though that's going to be a marquee matchup.

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01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a really good matchup. And

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: did you say Seattle? The same thing can be said,

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01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: though if the Colts are playing already the next week

1110
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: in Prime, they wouldn't do that two weeks in a row.

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01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: Right, They're on Monday Night football against San Francisco.

1112
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Speaker 1: So what about Jacksonville to in the penultimate game of

1113
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: the year at Jacksonville or No, that's at home, right,

1114
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: that's the home game. Yeah, maybe I don't know, then

1115
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: maybe the road game in Jacksonville, depending on what the

1116
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: jack But the Jags. The thing about the Jags, they

1117
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: are very enigmatic. But does it not feel like with

1118
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: Jacksonville that is a team that now that they have

1119
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: kind of tasted their own blood and they've been knocked

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Speaker 1: back down to earth a little bit. I mean, a

1121
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, you're like, Okay, they might be

1122
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: able to hang around it already feels like that separation

1123
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: has happened.

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01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 2: I mean, they had fourteen turnovers through the first five

1125
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: weeks of the year. That is just incredibly unsustainable, and

1126
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: that's how they were winning so many of these games,

1127
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 2: and most of them besides Week one, were one possession games.

1128
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 2: You win by a touchdown against Houston because Nicole Collins

1129
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: has a critical fumble as they were making a drive

1130
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: there toward the end. San Francisco you win by five

1131
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: because of some turnovers there with Mac Jones. Kansas City

1132
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: you get the win late because of a nice throat

1133
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: to Brian Thomas Junior from Trevor Lawrence and then a

1134
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: couple penalties to help, you know, get that drive started

1135
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: then ultimately get them down to the one yard line.

1136
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: They fall to Seattle. Los Angeles they have the bye

1137
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: week now, they will have an easy game coming off

1138
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: their bye week. They have Vegas in Houston. Both of

1139
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: those games on the road. They have the Chargers, Cardinals, Titans,

1140
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: then the Colts, so there is a chance to where

1141
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: that that game could be compared. That's kind of favorable, right, Yes,

1142
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 2: obviously this is all I think. It would large probably

1143
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: have to depend on what the Colts look like around

1144
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,439
Speaker 2: that time, like if they still have, you know whatever,

1145
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: a two to three game lead, maybe even four depending

1146
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: on how things go. I don't know if there's any

1147
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: necessity of moving to the Colts and Jaguars to primetime.

1148
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: Hey, Jake, what do you think pretty football has to do?

1149
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: To get where IU is is Barry odin the answer?

1150
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: Is he just another Ryan waltzs or is it too

1151
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: early to tell? A great question? This on the text

1152
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: line at two nine ten seventy. I think Barry Odom

1153
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: is a really good coach, and if if you look

1154
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: at what he did at UNLV, Yes, a short window

1155
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: of time there, but also a UNLV same limitations to

1156
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: an extent as Purdue, just in terms of like NIL

1157
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: and those sorts of things. Obviously a different league and

1158
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: competitives of the league. The biggest challenge for Purdue, my opinion,

1159
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: is the league that they're in. And yes, you get

1160
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: huge television money from that, but look at the schools

1161
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: that have the biggest amount to you. NIL collective and

1162
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: being able to compensate players is not the end all

1163
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: be all, but it helps in recruiting. Notably, I don't

1164
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: think that a lot of players going to college necessarily

1165
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: think that like they're going to retire off of what

1166
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: they make in college. But they want to feel loved, right,

1167
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: they want to feel wanted. They that means a lot

1168
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: to eighteen year old kids. It means a lot to

1169
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: any of us, But to eighteen year old kids notably.

1170
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: I think Purdue has two challenges, the first being the

1171
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: league that they're in, and the second being And I

1172
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: know Purdue fans are going to jump all over me

1173
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: on this, and I get it. I mean it actually

1174
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: as a positive here, I think Purdue is an unbelievable

1175
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: academic university. I think in this state in Indiana, we

1176
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: take for granted sometimes the fact that we have two

1177
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: major and look, Indiana State Teachers College, it's a wonderful

1178
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: university for teachers. And you know, Ball State is an

1179
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: incredible communications school. I mean, but in terms of the

1180
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: two largest state schools in the state, I'm just going

1181
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: to talk specifically about Indiana Purdue because of the Big

1182
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: Ten aspect of it. Purdue is such a fine university

1183
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: and as a Land Grant school and its mathematical background

1184
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: and everything else. I love the fact that in Indiana

1185
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: we have two major state universities that provide two different

1186
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: outstanding curriculums for the most part as their strength. That is,

1187
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: like one side of the brain or the other side

1188
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: of the brain. And Purdue is so academically reputed. I

1189
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: think a lot of people think of Purdue as a

1190
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: private university. I think a lot of people outside the

1191
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: Midwest don't realize it's in Indiana, but they know about

1192
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: its aeronautical space programs and its engineering programs and etc.

1193
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: All long winded way of saying that, I think Purdue

1194
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: graduates have a much higher percentage of chance of leaving

1195
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: or even having come from originally outside the state of Indiana,

1196
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: and their graduates are like a shotgun start where they're

1197
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: going all over the country. And when you are going

1198
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: to India, your professional life, detached from the consistent, constant

1199
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: circle around of your friends and your coworkers and your

1200
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: colleagues that are involved in that rivalry, you are less

1201
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: inclined to dip deep into your pocketbooks to financially support

1202
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: the athletic to programs in the nil collectives within. So

1203
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: Purdue right there in terms of that funding has a

1204
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: bit of a disadvantage. But more so the disadvantage is

1205
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: the fact that the other schools already in this new

1206
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: wild era of that have taken off with their programs,

1207
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: not even from the financial standpoint, just from a win standpoint.

1208
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: And Purdue was against the eight ball because of the

1209
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: last couple of you know, the coaching changes. Well, Jeff

1210
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: Brown was really good, but the Ryan Waltters thing and

1211
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: just how much they bottomed out. I think Barry Odam's

1212
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: an outstanding coach and I think they right now they

1213
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: may not be as talented as other teams, but I

1214
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: do think that they. Yes, they've had some penalties in

1215
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: whatever else, but I think he's a very sound coach.

1216
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a flashy coach. But to get

1217
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: where Indiana is, can they get there? Sure? But I

1218
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: think it's going to take more time. Signetti was able

1219
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: to bring with him, and this was such a big thing,

1220
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: and I think Otam did as well, his entire staff,

1221
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: not just bringing like a guy here there, but like

1222
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: his entire staff. And then, in Signetti's case, eighteen players

1223
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: or whatever it was from JMU that knew his style

1224
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: and system and now all of a sudden it was

1225
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: plug and play, and everybody knows what that style and

1226
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: system is, so that takes time. Signetti's immediate flip of

1227
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: the switch is unbelievably unique and almost unprecedented. It's one

1228
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: of the most remarkable stories. There is a danger in

1229
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: life itself. There are always exceptions to the rule, and

1230
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: success comes in living by the rule, not chasing the exception,

1231
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: and in Indiana's case, the Signetti method and that flip

1232
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: of the switch is the exception to the rule, and

1233
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: methodical and to the core is more often the rule itself.

1234
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: And I think that Barry Otem does do that. I

1235
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: think it's just going to take time. I mean that's

1236
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: the answer, or is I think simply if you're asking

1237
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: what it's going to take for them to get there,

1238
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: it's going to take time. Do you think Purdue regrets

1239
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: not backing up the Brinks truck for Brahm. I don't,

1240
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: because I think it was a foregone conclusion no matter what,

1241
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: he was going to Louisville. Once that job opened up

1242
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: a second time. There was no doubt about it. He

1243
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: was going to Louisville. Speaking of movement, there is going

1244
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: to be some movement, Well there is, we know for

1245
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: a fact, movement. Colton heard it, for example, trying out

1246
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: F two possibly trying to see what he can do

1247
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: in F one. Alex Pollo dominating in Indy car and

1248
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: is he on his way to F one eventually and

1249
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: how much success could he have there? A couple of

1250
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: the things I want to talk about next with our

1251
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: next guest, who's going to be at Clues Hall coming

1252
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: up in November. He is synonymous with, of course, American

1253
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: increasing popularity and Formula one and he's good. Dr Steinary

1254
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: joins us next. You know, Eddie and racing terms. In

1255
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: racing terms, halfway through a race they put over across

1256
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: unfurled flags. You know that, correct, Eddie? Of course I do. Jake, Well,

1257
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're doing on the program now. And

1258
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: speaking of racing. And by the way, Elliott Bloom coming

1259
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: up about thirty minutes from now, but joining us now

1260
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: on the Java House Peel and poor guest line. You're

1261
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,520
Speaker 1: going to be able to see him on November fourteenth,

1262
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: seven point thirty at Clues Memorial Hall. That's the Butler campus,

1263
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: of course. Tickets available at Butler Artscenter dot org. He's

1264
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: a return guest to the program and there's a lot

1265
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: to talk about, as a matter of fact, and we're

1266
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: going to do it unfiltered with guter Steiner who joins

1267
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: us on the program. Unfiltered Live will be the show

1268
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: coming up November fourteenth. Good jury, it is a pleasure again.

1269
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: How are you.

1270
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,560
Speaker 6: I'm good, thank you and thanks for having me.

1271
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 4: Guys.

1272
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: Hey, I want to begin with this. You know, it's

1273
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: so much fun because I've been you know, I've obviously

1274
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm aware of your work in Formula one that goes

1275
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: without saying, but just in your media work from both

1276
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: podcasts and then as well obviously and Drive to Survive

1277
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: and all of the things that you do. And now

1278
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: when you come out with the book Unfiltered and you're

1279
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: doing the speaking engagements, what maybe have you learned in

1280
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: terms of from a race fan standpoint, the things that

1281
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: people find of great interest that maybe surprised you that

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Speaker 1: you think, to yourself, I didn't realize that would be

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Speaker 1: the story that hits. But the thing that jumps out.

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Speaker 6: Of you, the thing which jumps out is actually, you

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Speaker 6: know people because I know the whole story about everything

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Speaker 6: you know it has and so on. What jumps out

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Speaker 6: with is people actually don't know about it. And when

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Speaker 6: you tell them, they are very surprised, you know, because

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Speaker 6: it's people know me from Drive to Survive from Formula One,

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Speaker 6: but I did a lot of other things in my life,

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Speaker 6: and they're like, really if you don't this, and they're always,

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Speaker 6: you know, very surprised that there is always some good

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Speaker 6: questions from the audience. There then as well about the

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Speaker 6: stuff which is not public about me.

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Speaker 1: With that, do you think of yourself as somebody? Obviously

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Speaker 1: racing has been a huge part of your life, and

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Speaker 1: I certainly know Gunter from the IndyCar side, the passion

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Speaker 1: that race fans have for racing and its personalities. But

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Speaker 1: do you think of yourself as somebody that is defined

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Speaker 1: by racing or is racing simply an accentuation that has

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Speaker 1: allowed people to get to know other things about you?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I think it's a mixed BacT there. I think it

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Speaker 6: is a combination of both of things. But for sure,

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Speaker 6: raising it's a big path of me because I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'm doing it since forty years. You know, I haven't

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Speaker 6: done a lot of things outside of racing or which

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Speaker 6: didn't have an element of raising in it, you know,

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Speaker 6: because that I would say racing defined me a little

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Speaker 6: bit as a person once I got into racing to

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Speaker 6: be a professional in racing, as professional as I can

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Speaker 6: be in racing, you know, then it defines you. And

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Speaker 6: you know, whatever I did it had some element of

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Speaker 6: it involved in it.

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Speaker 1: Guter Steiner is my guest November fourteenth, seven thirty Eclues

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Speaker 1: Memorial Hall. You can see Guter up on stage. It

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Speaker 1: is Unfiltered live, this, of course an accentuation with his

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Speaker 1: book Unfiltered. You know, look, you've worked with some of

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Speaker 1: the biggest race teams out there, obviously, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what eight years as the team principal for host FORMU,

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Speaker 1: the one you're with Jag you are, you did some

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Speaker 1: work with Red Bull, You've worked with Stuart Has I

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Speaker 1: mean a little of all areas, right in doing that?

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Speaker 1: How long did it take you to learn that each

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Speaker 1: driver is their own personality? Maybe maybe one driver you've

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Speaker 1: got to push button number A and another driver you've

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Speaker 1: got to push button number B. How difficult was it

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Speaker 1: to learn and mash personalities?

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Speaker 6: It wasn't too difficult to learn, because I said, I

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Speaker 6: worked with a lot of driver was already when I

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Speaker 6: was young, you know, and you learn pretty quick that

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Speaker 6: got his own way of doing things, and like all

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Speaker 6: of us have got not only drivers. Every person is special,

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Speaker 6: you know, call it like this so and trying to

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Speaker 6: adapt to their how they think and getting the best

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Speaker 6: out of them, that's always the challenge. You know, how

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Speaker 6: do I get the best out of the drive? How

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Speaker 6: do I have to manage him?

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Speaker 1: How do I have to do it.

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Speaker 5: What was he like?

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Speaker 1: What he doesn't like?

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Speaker 6: So but as I said, I'm raising almost forty years now,

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Speaker 6: so you start obviously at a lower level, but you

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Speaker 6: learn pretty quick. And then when you get to manage

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Speaker 6: the big boys, I think you are prepared for it

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Speaker 6: and as good as you can be prepared to manage

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Speaker 6: a human being, because everybody has got some especial in

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Speaker 6: my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Look, you've worked with you know, I'll use just for example,

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Speaker 1: Roman gros On, right, So you've worked with him on

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Speaker 1: the Formula one side, You've watched him on the IndyCar side.

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Speaker 1: You've been able to see and I think there's some people, Gunter,

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Speaker 1: there's this thought that there's this huge gap between the

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Speaker 1: two series of Formula one in IndyCar. I'm curious of

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Speaker 1: your perceptions of this, first just how big that chasm

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Speaker 1: may be. And secondly, specifically with Colton Hurda now going

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Speaker 1: over and trying an F two and working his way

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Speaker 1: into Formula one, how big a learning curve pardon the

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Speaker 1: pun that will be for him.

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Speaker 6: I mean, first of all, I was with romano Zan

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Speaker 6: on the olstin Gamprier. I was doing TV with him

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Speaker 6: for the French network. So that's pretty good. Yeah, as

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Speaker 6: you say, uh what I always say, all these series

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Speaker 6: are different in itself and everyone is special, and you

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Speaker 6: cannot assume that the best Naska driver is put in

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Speaker 6: a form, but neither is the best if one drival

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Speaker 6: good in NASCAR because it's just it's motor sports, but

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Speaker 6: the different discipline. And if you give somebody enough time,

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Speaker 6: if you've got the driving talent, you know, in whichever

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Speaker 6: series to do something differently, you can achieve it. And

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Speaker 6: the Colton Herta, I think, I think the approach is

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Speaker 6: right to go to a do and not straight into

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Speaker 6: a fone. I think that that approach is good. At

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Speaker 6: least it gives him the team, the people which want

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Speaker 6: to do this with him and understanding if he first

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Speaker 6: of all enjoys it because it's different than.

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Speaker 1: In the cars as to and that.

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Speaker 6: One and technically how competitive is he you know? And

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Speaker 6: has he got does you want to spend the time?

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Speaker 6: Maybe two seasons enough two to get to a fore

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Speaker 6: you know? So I think if they give him time,

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Speaker 6: for sure he can get there. But you know, Colton

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01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 6: is not eighteen years anymore, so I mean time is

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Speaker 6: not for him. So but if he can, if he

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Speaker 6: can have a good two years respectable and we should

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Speaker 6: not put our expectations too high for him because it's

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Speaker 6: difficult to learn as do and that is not nothing

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Speaker 6: to do with the talent of Calton. It's just like

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Speaker 6: knowing the series, getting to know what to do there.

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Speaker 6: And after one year, I think that the team which

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Speaker 6: which he raises for will have a good understanding if

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Speaker 6: it can be done, that he's going to have one

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Speaker 6: in a year or two after the first year, because

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Speaker 6: if they've got experience with young drivers, with drivers which

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Speaker 6: came from A three to two. So if the people

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Speaker 6: listen to them and then they say, hey, Carlton, that

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Speaker 6: just doesn't adapt to this car, then maybe it's find

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Speaker 6: that he does something different, but they say, hey, he's

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Speaker 6: doing good. He just needs to have a year. I

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Speaker 6: think then he.

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Speaker 1: Could watch which Indy car driver to you seems to

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Speaker 1: have the acumen that would most immediately translate into Formula One.

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Speaker 6: I think Alex Palo he especially, that guy's good. I mean,

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Speaker 6: in my opinion, that guy's very good.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Polo to me, you know, working on

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01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: the radio network and being around it and seeing practice

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Speaker 1: qualifying you never know what goes on within a driver, Gunter,

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Speaker 1: but he seems to have this very even keel where

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01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: very few things rattle him and very few things good

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Speaker 1: or bad. Right, he just seems to have a very

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Speaker 1: How rare is that in a driver and how important

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Speaker 1: is that kind of even mental approach?

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Speaker 6: He started to ask, it's very important that he's space mentally,

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Speaker 6: you know, so nothing can rattle him, which is very good,

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Speaker 6: good or bad. I just do my job. I do

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Speaker 6: it the best I can, you know, and gone with it.

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Speaker 6: But I think over the last years, you know, he

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Speaker 6: went through or he's still going through some obviously legal

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Speaker 6: disputes about his career. I think he learned a lot

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Speaker 6: getting tough for but by doing this, and it helped

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Speaker 6: him to be this this person which can deal with

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Speaker 6: all the pressures, you know, and that's very important because

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Speaker 6: if nothing rattens you and you're confident, that makes you

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Speaker 6: a champ. And it's nothing differently formal one with Max

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Speaker 6: for Stutton also, he's very similar in that approach with

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Speaker 6: Alex Blow. You know, nothing can rattle him. You know,

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Speaker 6: he has got an opinion and he has got When

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Speaker 6: he had a bad race, he said, what he thinks

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Speaker 6: and moves on to the next one. But it's back

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Speaker 6: to square one. His calm met everything, and I think

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Speaker 6: blow is it's the same.

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Speaker 1: Peter Steiner again, Unfiltered Live, November fourteenth, seven thirty eth

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Speaker 1: Clues Memorial Hall. Tickets available at the Butler Arts Center.

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Speaker 1: That's ArtCenter dot org. Last week in term I'm curious

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Speaker 1: your thought on this in your opinion, which is a

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01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: bigger jump, I guess, or which is a bigger challenge

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01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: for someone to learn. Let's say somebody with an open

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Speaker 1: wheel background, like from an IndyCar, to learn the nuances

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Speaker 1: of the Formula one car, the you know, the standing starts,

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Speaker 1: the different things that go into it, or for a

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01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: Formula one driver to come over and learn and have

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Speaker 1: to acumen into the ovals that are present in IndyCar racing.

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Speaker 6: For me, it's about the same as I said at

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01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 6: the beginning. It's a different category and everybody needs to

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01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 6: learn how they car reacts, you know, I think in

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01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 6: a formal of one card, the difficult is the technology.

1447
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 6: How to use all the tools we call them, you know,

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01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 6: the electronics on the car, how to get the best

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01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 6: out of the downforce, you know what is important. But

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01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 6: for me, for an F one driver coming to an

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01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 6: Oval to it's it's it's also a maintained challenge to

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01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 6: be disclosed to walls. You know, you need to get

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 6: used to it. I'm not used it to that. In

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01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 6: F one you cannot say I do one way and

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01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 6: I get used to it. It takes some time. I

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01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 6: think it's exactly the same thing from if one to

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01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 6: move to India. From India to a form it's a

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01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 6: learning curve and even as I said, if Max for

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01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 6: Stuffin comes to an Oval to do five hundred, it

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Speaker 6: will not be easy for him.

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Speaker 4: He needs to learn.

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Speaker 1: Folks. There's going to be a Formula one team based

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Speaker 1: right here in central Indiana, as you know, the Cadillac

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01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: team right up near Fisher's and as you could see,

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01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: learning curve lot to go through that I'm sure will

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Speaker 1: be one of the subjects that's discussed, as well as

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01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: hiring firing drivers, working with different teams. A lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about with gutter Steiner at Unfiltered Live November fourteenth

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Speaker 1: at seven point thirty Cluse Memorial Hall at Butler Butlerartscenter

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Speaker 1: dot Org For tickets good It is always a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to look forward to talking to you again, and certainly

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoy when you're going to be in Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: here coming up in just under a month.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure I'll enjoy it, and thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Jakes appreciate it very much. Gutter Steiner on the program,

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Speaker 1: Elliott Blue Purdue basketball coming up just under thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: That'll be top of the hour. By the way, speaking

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Speaker 1: of IndyCar and Alex Polow, I'll simply say this, if

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01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: you were a fan of IndyCar or Alex Polow, or

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01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: a fan of the Indy five hundred, and you're a

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01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: fan of college football, you probably will like the way

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01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: the Indiana Hoosiers burst onto the national television scene and

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01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: the field coming up on Saturday in Bloomington. I will

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01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: leave it at that and let the parties that be

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Speaker 1: make the official announcement within the next couple of days. Really,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying a little. Birdie told me really last

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Speaker 1: night in the NBA it was a doubleheader to start

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Speaker 1: things off. It was Oklahoma City and Houston. You just

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01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: heard the fact. Of course, the thunder going to be

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Speaker 1: here tomorrow night that game you will hear right here

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Speaker 1: on this radio station, and then the Pacers and Minnesota

1493
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,759
Speaker 1: Timberwolves coming up. By the way, that game on Sunday

1494
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: you will hear on this radio station as well, and

1495
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: the Colts game on Sunday will be on our sister station,

1496
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: Hank FM. That's because the Colts have the four o'clock

1497
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: start you had mentioned, Eddie. I thought it was interesting

1498
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: when you and I were chatting earlier today. You watched

1499
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: last night, and there's no doubt that Luka Doncic is,

1500
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, arguably the best player in the NBA. I mean,

1501
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: they're a handful. You could throw that into that discussion, yep,

1502
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: and he was virtually unstoppable for the Lakers. But the

1503
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: problem with that is, I don't know, optically speaking, you know,

1504
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: you were pointing out the fact that it's a little redundant, correct.

1505
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: I was just pointing out the fact, like if you

1506
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,440
Speaker 2: stayed up and watched that game after the double overtime

1507
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: thunder Rockets game, you you noticed that Luka Doncic was

1508
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: the La Lakers like it was just any time Luca

1509
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: had the ball, it was Luca taking a shot, Luca

1510
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 2: just driving in. It was it was just ugly basketball,

1511
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 2: like it was just it was like Harden with the rockets, like.

1512
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: It was hard to watch. There wasn't a lot of

1513
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: player movement. There wasn't a lot of ball movement. It

1514
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 2: was just Luca, you know, chuck it up. I think

1515
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: he ended up taking twenty seven shots last night.

1516
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: It was shit. Might have been more than that. He

1517
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: was seventeen of twenty seven. He was two of ten

1518
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: from three point range. Yeah, it was just a Luca

1519
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: Dantric show. Last forty three points, nine assists, twelve rebounds.

1520
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: And they they get down double figures in the second half,

1521
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: and they make it interesting late to make the score

1522
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 2: look closer than what it was, but it was never

1523
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 2: really close.

1524
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: Did he look slimmed down because there was so much

1525
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: talk about him losing weight in the offseason. I mean,

1526
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: you could certainly see it in his face that he

1527
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: has thinned out a little bit. Zion Williamson the same, Right,

1528
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see.

1529
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 2: What Zion looks like. Yeah, but I want your thoughts, Jake.

1530
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of the either game you watch,

1531
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 2: but in general, I thought the the product of Peacock,

1532
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 2: with the production of everything.

1533
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 1: Was very, very good last night. Yeah, it was good.

1534
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: And I was about the game.

1535
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: Then it was previously with T and T. With T

1536
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 2: and T, it just felt like it was everything around

1537
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: the game.

1538
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: Well I'm listen, I'm it's right my wheelhouse, NBA, NBC,

1539
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: that's totally my wheelhouse, right, because I go back, you know,

1540
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: the tradition of it, the nostalgic nature of it, and

1541
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: I applaud and they're not gonna do this forever. But

1542
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: it was cool that the that NBA and Peacock tapped

1543
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: into that, right, and to awaken that, I mean, like

1544
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: right there, automatically, I feel like it's a late spring

1545
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: day in the mid nineties, right, it's right at my wheelhouse.

1546
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: So yes, I did watch. I watched the a lot

1547
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,919
Speaker 1: of almost the entire second half of the Houston Oklahoma

1548
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: City game, which looked and yeah, there was a little

1549
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: bit of jokingly at PTSD and watching it because you know,

1550
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: it was surreal to an extent to watch that and

1551
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: realize and I think it's just now setting into me,

1552
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 1: like wait a minute, that really was the finals, and wow,

1553
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: there's the spot on the floor where the injury happened,

1554
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: and and then you started to see some of the

1555
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: things that Oklahoma City did during the finals as well.

1556
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: You know where Shake Gildess Alexander starts hitting shots and

1557
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 1: then you know that just starts coming in waves and

1558
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: their transition and he you know, he got off to

1559
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: a very slow start.

1560
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,799
Speaker 2: I've got a friend who's a ed degenerate. Like define

1561
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: if if you looked at if you looked up the

1562
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: definition of degenerate in the in the in the dictionary,

1563
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: his name would be there.

1564
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: And not not going to out him by any.

1565
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: Stretch of the imagination, but he texted me last time.

1566
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: He goes, hey, it's not Alec, is it.

1567
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 4: No.

1568
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 2: He was like, hey, I see the thunder or down

1569
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: and hold on, Well on.

1570
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: Aleck is your only friend. Now you're saying there's a

1571
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: degenerate friend. Are does he have the over under your

1572
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: degenerate friend on the number of friends you actually have. No,

1573
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: there's no over under. But he was asking.

1574
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,560
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, uh, Fund, we're going to make a

1575
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 2: comeback here.

1576
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. I was like, I

1577
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: don't know.

1578
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 2: Like the way that Shake Gilds as Alexander was operating

1579
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: the first half is going through the motions wasn't very effective.

1580
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: Houston took them out of the game. It's a couple

1581
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: of shots in the middle of the third quarter and

1582
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, he's kind of there, and then the

1583
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 2: fourth quarter happens. Dude just flipped the switch.

1584
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you were like, oh, yeah, that's the

1585
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: dude that when that starts going. It's very difficult. Everything

1586
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: about it, right, I mean, his ability to just.

1587
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: Dissect the defense of what they're presenting defensively, and to

1588
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: change speeds like to slow down and then have the

1589
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: quick burst to get to the basket. The body control

1590
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 2: that he has to find ways to get open. It's

1591
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 2: just unreal.

1592
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 1: Now. One of the things when you mentioned the coverage

1593
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 1: or NBC in the NBA, right, the one thing that

1594
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: I saw that jumped out.

1595
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: Of me was it Michael Jordan's comments that he made

1596
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: at halftime.

1597
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 1: I did see that. I don't believe the story at

1598
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: all that Jordan hasn't touched the ball and however long,

1599
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe that yet on either. No,

1600
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: it was the promotional poster I'm going to use the

1601
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: term poster in air quotes the promotional image that NBA

1602
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: on NBC released saying you know, we're back, and it

1603
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: has like twelve players, and I get it. If Tyres

1604
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Haliburton had not gotten hurt, I'm sure he's on that.

1605
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: Oh the NBA France tweet, I think that's when you

1606
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: were talking about.

1607
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: It was it was a thing promoting the fact the

1608
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 1: NBA is back on NBC and they had, you know,

1609
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: the images of all kinds of players, you know, we're back,

1610
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: And it was Luca and I think Durant was on it,

1611
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: and Shake Gildess Alexander was on it, and I'm trying

1612
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: to think of the others the other players that were

1613
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: on it. They were like ten, ten or twelve players,

1614
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: and there were no Pacers And I'm like, come on, man,

1615
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean they were, they were the Eastern Conference champions.

1616
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: But I also get the fact that the Indiana Pacers

1617
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: really only have one transcendent star, Miles Well Siakam would

1618
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,919
Speaker 1: be one, but he's not. Siakam's not like a marketing

1619
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 1: star from a marketing standpoint, And that's what the Pacers

1620
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: in general, what is so likable about them is exactly that,

1621
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, Andrew Nimhard is an everyday guy. Aaron Ne

1622
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Smith is like an everyday guy. TJ mcconnel's an everyday guy.

1623
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what is so likable about them. And

1624
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: then Halliburton is the you know, the energetic, enthusiastic, like

1625
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: almost like a little kid that's little League that's thrown

1626
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: his mit high in the air the mound and everybody

1627
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: circles around him, and he's the magnet of it all.

1628
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: And I get that he's not there, but I have.

1629
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 1: When I saw that promotion, I'm thinking, come on, you

1630
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: got to give Indiana a little bit of love here.

1631
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 1: They were a finalist. See, I thought you were going

1632
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: with the NBA. I think it was NBA France.

1633
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,799
Speaker 2: They had a tweet like saying, oh, look the season's

1634
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: back or whatever, and it's like it's got like a

1635
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 2: dozen of players on there or whatever.

1636
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: Center of it. Jason Tatum, Yeah, I mean, come on right. Yeah.

1637
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 1: Elliott bloom is with Perdue Basketball. Matt Panna was on yesterday,

1638
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: but a lot to discuss in terms of the college

1639
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: basketball getting set to get underway, and we had Elliott on.

1640
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: I believe it was last year. At what point in

1641
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: the year was it that Elliott joined the program? Do

1642
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:48,440
Speaker 1: you recall, give me like ten seconds, Director of Basketball Operations.

1643
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Elliott is for Perdue. I think it was perhaps heading

1644
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: into the Final four two years ago. I can't remember

1645
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: exactly when, but March.

1646
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 2: Twenty sixth, twenty twenty five, so seven months ago.

1647
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, but great conversation and a lot of insight

1648
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: into what goes into building a basketball program, a schedule,

1649
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 1: and Purdue is going to test themselves a plenty. We

1650
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: will talk to Elliott next. Purdue basketball is back and

1651
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 1: down really from nobody, nor should they right when you

1652
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: look at their schedule and who they have. I mean

1653
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: they start out with an exhibition with Kentucky, Okay, and

1654
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: then after that and yeah, you Indi and Evansville, and

1655
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean that is no slight to those schools. I

1656
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: think Oakland is pretty good out of the Horizon League.

1657
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: They've got that game coming up in November. Then after that,

1658
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean Alabama, Memphis, you step back out of the

1659
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: conference again, Iowa State, Marquette, Auburn. I mean, it's no

1660
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: joke that scheduled jointing us. Now he is the director

1661
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: of basketball operations for Purdue. Elliott Bloom on the Java House,

1662
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line. Elliott, I'm going to begin

1663
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 1: with that in terms of just the scheduling. You know,

1664
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: I realized that these schedules, how far out are the

1665
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 1: schedules done? When you guys, you know, you look right

1666
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: now for example, whether it be playing an Auburn or

1667
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: playing a Marquette that would have been agreed upon how

1668
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: long ago?

1669
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 4: Uh, It kind of depends some of Like right now,

1670
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 4: I'm working on next year's schedule as we speak, so

1671
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 4: trying to get non conference stuff lined up and figure

1672
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 4: all that stuff out. You know, some stuff gets done

1673
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 4: in advance, like if you're going to play a home

1674
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 4: at home with a high major, big time team, you know,

1675
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 4: that could be a couple of years in advance. Just depends.

1676
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 4: Some stuff is last minute. You know that. We've had

1677
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 4: situations before, like last year we went down to Birmingham

1678
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 4: and played Auburn, which then they agreed to come back

1679
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 4: to Indy this year. That was pretty late in the process.

1680
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 4: So that was like kind of at the start of

1681
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 4: the season last year, like this time of year into

1682
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 4: I think even in November December where we were saying,

1683
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 4: you know, the previous year we were talking about, all right,

1684
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 4: we go down to Birmingham, do we do it late?

1685
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 4: Like that, there was a game we played up in Canada.

1686
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 4: A couple of years ago we played Alabama up there

1687
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 4: and took zach Eddie back to Toronto, and I was

1688
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 4: trying to get that done over the May, even I

1689
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 4: think in the beginning of June, until we finally got

1690
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 4: that done for that coming season.

1691
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: So it just depends when you factored that stuff. Ben

1692
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: a couple of questions about it, because I do find

1693
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: it interesting. The first would be, you know, the style

1694
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: of play of the school, perhaps a previous you know,

1695
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: existing relationship with the coaching coaches of the staff, or

1696
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: just the schedule in terms of what other schools have opened.

1697
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 1: What are the biggest deciding factors on who you schedule

1698
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: for us?

1699
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's changed a little bit over the years.

1700
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 4: You know, we're at the point now where we're trying

1701
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 4: to kind of full steam ahead and play as many

1702
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 4: high level games as we can that we everybody gets.

1703
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 4: In our league with twenty league games, you get eleven

1704
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 4: non conference games. Now that's getting ready to go to twelve.

1705
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 4: So next year they're they're adding a game, so we'll

1706
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 4: actually go to twelve non conference games. So for our standpoint,

1707
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,759
Speaker 4: we like to try to make half of those against

1708
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 4: high majors. That would be really good competition. That would

1709
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 4: really kind of help our net and obviously it helps

1710
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 4: the net rating that the NCAA Tournament Committee uses, but

1711
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 4: it also it also there's a lot of factors. I mean,

1712
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 4: the more quality games in Mackie, you know, the more

1713
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 4: incentive there is for people to continue to buy season

1714
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 4: tickets and want to see you know, those high level games.

1715
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 4: Obviously helps from just kind of staying relevant nationally and

1716
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of reasons

1717
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 4: to do it. We've kind of chose to make half

1718
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 4: of our games our non confert games, those high end

1719
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 4: games like that. But everybody's everybody's usually at a different place,

1720
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 4: and so like we have to find teams that are

1721
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 4: of like mindset that want to do that, you know,

1722
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 4: and so that's kind of where it starts. It's like

1723
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 4: what teams are out there that would would like to

1724
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 4: do these kind of things. There's a big push in

1725
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 4: our in our business right now, in our industry whatever

1726
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 4: you want to call it, in our support, you know,

1727
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 4: the tournament, the MTE world. You know, the players there

1728
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 4: a tournament and saying in Las Vegas is drawing in

1729
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 4: a lot of teams, and so that's really disrupted the market.

1730
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 4: You're seeing things like the Mao Invitational and Battle for Atlantis,

1731
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 4: some of the two to the higher profile kind of

1732
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 4: preseason tournaments are getting affected by the big monster out

1733
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 4: in Las Vegas. That's that's taken in so many teams,

1734
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 4: So that's impacted some things. There's a lot of promoters

1735
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 4: right now that are doing a lot of neutral events.

1736
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 4: You're probably seeing more neutral site games than you've ever seen,

1737
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 4: little one off games in different cities. So there's a

1738
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 4: lot of options now where and then home and homes

1739
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 4: are still there's a lot to be said for her

1740
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 4: home and homes. Some schools don't look at those as

1741
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 4: favorably because they think, well if I go to a

1742
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 4: neutral site, I can get more money from a promoter

1743
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 4: if I do that, and there might be other motivations

1744
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 4: to do it. So you kind of got to find

1745
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 4: teams that are willing dance partners, so to speak. And

1746
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 4: then once you once you get a team that's like okay,

1747
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 4: I'll play you and let's play on a neutral or

1748
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 4: let's play home and home. Well, then yeah, the date's

1749
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 4: got to work up, work out.

1750
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, how much like you when you're doing this

1751
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: jigsaw puzzle of it. Elliott, how much does coach Matt

1752
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Painter sit in with you on that or is he

1753
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 1: kind of more of the Hey, I trust what you

1754
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 1: can put together. Let me know who we got. I mean,

1755
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: how much discussion goes back and forth?

1756
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Payne, I've been doing it for so

1757
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 4: long together as it's to the point now where I

1758
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 4: basically go to him and say, Okay, here's our options.

1759
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 4: What do you want to do? And I try to

1760
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 4: get some stuff lined up now. So sometimes if I

1761
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 4: feel like, hey, I'm having a hard time getting so

1762
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:08,600
Speaker 4: and so to answer the phone, like can you just

1763
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 4: reach out to to the other head coach and see

1764
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 4: if they want to play a home at home? And

1765
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 4: he'll do that from time to time, but for the

1766
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 4: most part, I'll just kind of take options to him.

1767
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 4: And we're still pretty old school. I just I write

1768
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 4: it out on a blank calendar and I plug in

1769
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,560
Speaker 4: different scenarios and games, and then we sit down and

1770
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 4: kind of go over it and say, Okay, this is

1771
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 4: one scenario we could do if we went to this

1772
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 4: place and then that place and this tournament. You know,

1773
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 4: what do you think about that, and for the most part,

1774
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 4: we're on the same page I would say ninety nine

1775
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 4: percent of time on what we're trying to do. So

1776
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 4: it's a pretty easy process for us. There's some schools

1777
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 4: that it's not an easy process, and those are the

1778
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 4: ones you don't really want to deal with, you know.

1779
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: One of the things I like about you. For me,

1780
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: I have problems getting anybody to answer the phone, but

1781
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: you usually do, which I like, Right, I mean, you know,

1782
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I've always thought, Elliott, it's interesting in

1783
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. You know, I've all always felt like

1784
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: the tournament amazes me because and I'm always intrigued and

1785
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: I find it fun when you just don't know who

1786
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: you're going to get matched up against, in what style

1787
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 1: you're going to see, and you might be playing a

1788
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 1: team out of a league that plays a completely different

1789
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: style of play of what you're used to. Now, is

1790
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 1: that an antiquated thought? Now out of the Big Ten,

1791
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: because the conference itself is so vast now that it

1792
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 1: is diverse enough that you don't really have to worry

1793
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: about that out of conference to prepare yourself for March,

1794
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: do you get within the Big ten pretty much the

1795
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 1: Gauntlet sample size that prepares you.

1796
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the most part, you're going to get that

1797
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 4: now you're going to have like I think, I think

1798
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:43,759
Speaker 4: more than anything, it's giving your players like a reference

1799
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 4: point or something to draw back on, an experience that

1800
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 4: they can then recall.

1801
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 5: So like.

1802
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 4: We're going down to Kentucky, you know, Friday night to

1803
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 4: play and you know, to be honest, we're really hoping

1804
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 4: that by our guys going through that first travel experience

1805
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 4: together because this team hasn't done anything together yet, you know,

1806
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 4: the new pieces that we've hadded it's a brand new

1807
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 4: team is how we can always look at it. So

1808
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,839
Speaker 4: that whole experience, playing in front of a crowd, traveling

1809
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 4: on a plane for the first time together, all that stuff,

1810
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 4: we hope that pays dividends a few weeks later when

1811
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 4: we go down to Alabama and play in Tuscal loose

1812
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 4: on November thirteenth. So those are the Those are some

1813
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 4: things that we tried to do now on our schedule

1814
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 4: this year too, Like we play a couple of MAX

1815
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,600
Speaker 4: schools that have been traditionally really good. I mean, we

1816
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 4: play Acron in Kent State and both those teams I mean,

1817
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 4: how many times have you seen those teams on your

1818
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 4: instead of deternament bracket? And usually those teams are going

1819
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 4: to are going to be good enough to give some

1820
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 4: of the higher major teams a run for their money

1821
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 4: in those first or second round games. So those even

1822
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 4: those games that maybe the general fan looks at and

1823
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily it doesn't register with them, but we look

1824
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 4: at those and say, we could very easily see those

1825
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 4: teams in the first or second week, first or second

1826
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 4: round in deternament.

1827
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: I mean, Oakland's in that same category, right absolutely, even

1828
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 1: though he loses, you know, roster rotation lot out of

1829
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: the horizon. They're just really well coached, seemingly each and

1830
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: every time you go up against them, right.

1831
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 4: One thousand percent. And those are the kind of things

1832
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 4: that when you when you get to the tournament and

1833
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 4: all of a sudden that team shows up on your line,

1834
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 4: you can sit there. We have a reference point now

1835
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 4: to go back and say, guys, they're going to be

1836
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 4: very similar to Akron or to Oakland, or to Kent

1837
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 4: State or some of those teams that you play like,

1838
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 4: there's a couple of trains of thought out there in

1839
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 4: our world. Some people want to schedule really bad teams

1840
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 4: and run the score up and try to kind of

1841
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 4: gain the system a little bit that way, and in

1842
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,639
Speaker 4: terms of their net rating, we're kind of the opposite.

1843
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 4: We'd rather play good quality teams that give our guys

1844
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 4: a good test and then give them a reference point

1845
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 4: the rest of the season.

1846
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 1: Who most intrigues you? Elliot Bloom is my guest. He's

1847
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 1: on the Java House peeling for guest line. He's the

1848
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: director of basketball ops for Purdue. When you look at

1849
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: this roster for you guys this year, Elliott, I mean, look,

1850
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: we know of your main trio and the guys that

1851
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: have been around for a long time and have been

1852
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 1: great players for you guys, who are you most intrigued

1853
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: by or who do you think fan will be most

1854
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 1: intrigued by seeing what they can do for you this year?

1855
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 4: You know, there's a there's a few guys. I mean

1856
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 4: we Oscar Cloff, our fifth year guy that we added

1857
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 4: from South Dakota State. He's a he's a grown man.

1858
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 4: He's you know, he's an older, elder, elder statesman kind

1859
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 4: of guy. He's a blue collar, hard hat, launch pail

1860
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 4: guy that I think people will be very pleased with

1861
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 4: He's got a really good nose for rebounding, can score

1862
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 4: it around the basket. Really kind of scratches the itch

1863
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 4: that we had coming off of last season where we

1864
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 4: had a hard time rebounding. So I think he's probably

1865
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 4: going to be the most impactful. I also think that

1866
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 4: you know, Omer Meyer's a guy that the Israeli kid

1867
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 4: that we added that would post playing professionally over there.

1868
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 4: He has a lot of intrigue around him just because

1869
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 4: of how he kind of blew up on social media

1870
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 4: and everybody kind of fell in love with him. Really

1871
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 4: good player. But I also think guys that have been

1872
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 4: on our roster too that are just a little bit better.

1873
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 4: You know, Daniel Jacobson our our our post guy that

1874
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 4: was hurtly on last year. Our fans only got to

1875
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,560
Speaker 4: see a couple of games with him, so you know,

1876
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 4: they're basically seeing him as in what he is now

1877
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 4: as a freshman. Jack Benner comes off of redshirt year.

1878
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 4: So those two guys are going to play good minutes

1879
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 4: for us this year, and I think are both I'm

1880
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 4: going to be very impactful. So yeah, we got a

1881
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 4: lot of those names, those household names that have been

1882
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 4: with us, but we've also got a kind of another

1883
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 4: wave and that and then also too, like the Jakari

1884
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 4: Harrisons and CJ. Cox that went through the freshman year,

1885
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 4: seeing that natural growth and progression that you have from

1886
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 4: your freshman to sophomore year, I think they're gonna our

1887
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 4: fans are really going to be pleased with how they've

1888
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 4: progressed and the level they're going to play at this year.

1889
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 1: I thought CJ. Cox last year Elliott was impressive in

1890
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 1: different occasions because and you know, you see it a

1891
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 1: lot more closer than I, so feel free to tell

1892
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: me that this was not an accurate observation. But he

1893
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 1: seemed like a guy that when his number was called,

1894
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 1: he was ready for the moment and he didn't get

1895
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 1: caught up kind of in the pace in which which

1896
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 1: it was moving. And yet he bought into an understanding

1897
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: of knowing when his role was necessary, but not pushing

1898
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 1: it too much. And that seems to be the Matt

1899
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 1: Painter Purdue way. Is that a fair assessment of how

1900
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 1: his first year went?

1901
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with that. I think that, And

1902
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 4: I think that you're right too to reference coach, because

1903
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 4: I think that one of Paint's strengths is that he's

1904
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 4: able to define roles and and let people know that,

1905
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 4: you know, hey, these guys are going to be our

1906
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 4: main our main dudes here in terms of carrying the

1907
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 4: load offensively. But that doesn't mean that on any given

1908
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:42,680
Speaker 4: night it's not your your time to step up. And

1909
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 4: so I think that I think that's very accurate. He seemed,

1910
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 4: you know, he kind of came on the scene against

1911
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 4: Alabama here where he just went on that run by

1912
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 4: himself and blew the roof off of Mackie. All those

1913
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 4: guys had their individual moments throughout the year. We even

1914
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,679
Speaker 4: made the comment when we were in the tournament first

1915
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 4: and second round out in Providence, Jakari and CJ both

1916
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 4: did some really good things in those games, and we're like, man,

1917
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 4: for a true freshman to actually be making an impact

1918
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 4: in an intiably tournament game, I don't know if people

1919
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 4: realize how important that is or how valuable that experience is,

1920
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 4: because that gives them a chance now for the next

1921
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Speaker 4: three years to always be able to say, for us

1922
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Speaker 4: to be able to say, look, you guys producing a tournament,

1923
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 4: an intimbly tournament game, multiple intibility tournament games, like you

1924
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 4: got this like, you know, a road trip to you know,

1925
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 4: to Iowa that's not more pressure packed than those tournament

1926
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 4: games were. So they've set themselves up well to have really,

1927
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 4: really good success over the next three years.

1928
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Speaker 1: Elliet, we were talking earlier on the show, you know,

1929
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Speaker 1: and I know that this is not a new story.

1930
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: It's not in terms of and not to get you

1931
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 1: to speak about other programs, but just for the sake

1932
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: for the audience of understanding. So yesterday or you know,

1933
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: within the last forty eight hours or so, Louisville got

1934
01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 1: a recruit. You know, they signed a player that has

1935
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: been already in the G League. Santa Clara has done

1936
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: the same. I know that tom Izzo spoke out of

1937
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:11,560
Speaker 1: his concern, not necessarily of these particular circumstances, but of

1938
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:15,799
Speaker 1: in what I was saying was there is a precedent

1939
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: with the NCAA that when a line is drawn there

1940
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 1: of what you're going to do in terms of name, image,

1941
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 1: likeness or player representation, and in this case saying, look,

1942
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 1: somebody's coming from the G League, so long as they

1943
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 1: have not gone and been drafted, so long as they

1944
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:34,560
Speaker 1: have not signed an NBA contract, but rather simply a

1945
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 1: G league contract, and as long as they are still

1946
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 1: within five years of their high school graduating class, they

1947
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 1: are college eligible. My concern, and I want you to

1948
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: tell me if it's an invalid concern, is that the

1949
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 1: lines can be blurred so easily, and the precedent says

1950
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: that the individual market is prioritized versus the school market,

1951
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: and the NCAA loses a little bit of a grip

1952
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: of power within these circumstances that can snowball your thoughts.

1953
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's where I think that's the frustration.

1954
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 4: Is where we're at now, is that the rule, the

1955
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 4: guidelines and rules keep changing on us, and they change

1956
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 4: on us mid stream. Like you know, you can go

1957
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,600
Speaker 4: back to the when the transfer portal happened, you know

1958
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 4: NIL stuff started happening. Uh, then the you know, the

1959
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,640
Speaker 4: collectives enter the picture. And now the collectives are are

1960
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 4: they out? And then they're out. Now they're out of

1961
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:30,560
Speaker 4: the picture. And now we've got the nil go platform

1962
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 4: which players submit their nil deals, true nil deals through

1963
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 4: that need to get you know, vetted and approved from

1964
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 4: that mechanism. Now there's talk there's there's teams out there

1965
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,839
Speaker 4: that are paying players before they actually arrived to campus

1966
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 4: to get around the nil go portal. Now you've got

1967
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,600
Speaker 4: you know, this last situation that you just described. I

1968
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 4: think that at the end of the day, I think

1969
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 4: everybody's like ready to get going on a defined, clear

1970
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 4: set of rules that don't change. You know, we need

1971
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,799
Speaker 4: a period in our in college athletics, in my opinion,

1972
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 4: we need a good period of you know, five to

1973
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 4: ten years where we don't have change and we could

1974
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 4: just adjust to what we're doing. We spend so much

1975
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 4: time moving things around and figuring out, you know, what

1976
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 4: the next scenario is going to be, and then you

1977
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 4: have another group of people who are like, Okay, how

1978
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 4: do we get around this this set of rules, how

1979
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 4: do we get around that? How do we color outside

1980
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 4: the line, so to speak. So there's a lot of frustration,

1981
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 4: and rightfully so, you know, the best way to stay

1982
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 4: saying in all this is just to take the hand

1983
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,719
Speaker 4: your dealt and play it to the best of your ability.

1984
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 4: And you know, anybody in this state who grew up

1985
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 4: playing uker, you know, you get you know, you get

1986
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 4: a snow face. It's like, Okay, I just got to

1987
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 4: suck this one up and get to the next one.

1988
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 4: I hope I get a couple of hours in my hand.

1989
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's one of those scenarios, you just

1990
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:53,600
Speaker 4: it's it stinks when the rules change like they do.

1991
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,800
Speaker 4: And hopefully we get to a point where at some

1992
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 4: point the incident BLA can dig in to find some

1993
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 4: rules and we stick with it for a while. And

1994
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 4: that's a big if because a lot of these things

1995
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 4: get challenged in court, and we all know the record

1996
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 4: the NCBLA has in the court room over the last

1997
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 4: few years.

1998
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and with that, Elliott, you know, I was saying earlier,

1999
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: I have felt for a long time and this might

2000
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 1: not be until, you know, I mean, I don't know

2001
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 1: what the timeframe of this would be. But am I

2002
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: totally crazy to say that eventually we could get to

2003
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: a point where we have an NBA sanctioned or funded

2004
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 1: G league that is actually college basketball programs.

2005
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 4: Maybe I doubt we get to that point. I think

2006
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 4: to me, the next step down the road is at

2007
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 4: some point they're going to have to figure out the

2008
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 4: whole employee thing and the whole collective bargaining thing, if

2009
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 4: that ever comes into play. And if that is indeed

2010
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 4: the next step down the road, somewhere where does that

2011
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 4: even dart How do you collectively bargain? Do you collectively

2012
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 4: bargain as a conference? Do you collectively bargain as a sport?

2013
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 4: Does Big ten basketball collectively bargained? Does Big ten football

2014
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,640
Speaker 4: separately collectively bargained? Does all of NSUBA basketball? You know,

2015
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 4: how do you do that? And then what do you

2016
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 4: do with the low majors the mid majors? Like how

2017
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 4: does that all fit together? I mean, there's so many questions.

2018
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:24,600
Speaker 4: You know, if you sat around, if you went to

2019
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 4: a bar with your buddies and ordered some beers, you'll

2020
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,719
Speaker 4: be there way past midnight talking about all this because

2021
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 4: there's just that many scenarios. So I think that at

2022
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,799
Speaker 4: some point that's down the road. I wouldn't put anything

2023
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,640
Speaker 4: off the table. I think that in the incidentablea's got

2024
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 4: so much invested now in g leagues, and you know,

2025
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 4: they finally got to the point where everybody's got a team.

2026
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 4: They kind of did away with that all Star team

2027
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 4: so to speak, and and like in the in the Pacers,

2028
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 4: you know example, you know they've got an arena.

2029
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you're saying the NBA has so much invested

2030
01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: in the g leagues, right.

2031
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bet. And and so I feel

2032
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 4: like that's kind of the path that they are going down,

2033
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 4: and I think it's I think that's kind of a

2034
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 4: good thing. I don't know if they ever get down

2035
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 4: to our level, is there now? Is there a little

2036
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 4: bit more cooperation so to speak in terms of like, hey,

2037
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 4: if if somebody's played in the G League in the NBA,

2038
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 4: they're just not eligible anymore, that might get you know,

2039
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 4: there might be some more clarity with that. But I

2040
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 4: don't know if we ever get to the point where

2041
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 4: we're affiliated with it.

2042
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 1: Because Ellie, the reason, you know, that's the other thing

2043
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 1: that becomes like this, this this wild tentacle off of

2044
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 1: all this that I was saying is you know, again

2045
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: the lines keep getting blurred to your point, right, the

2046
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 1: rules keep changing. So so do we get to a

2047
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 1: point or are we afraid? I guess I should say,

2048
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 1: of getting to a point where a guy plays at

2049
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, insert name of program for a year, goes

2050
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 1: into the NBA. Let's even say, gets drafted place, is

2051
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 1: on a roster for two years and gets completely buried

2052
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: and then is you know what, I'm going back to college.

2053
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,720
Speaker 1: That sounds crazy now, right, But my point being, does

2054
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: isn't their precedent to say we can't rule out anything

2055
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 1: at this point.

2056
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 4: There's enough. Yeah, there's been enough chaos that, yeah, we

2057
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 4: can't rule out anything at this point. I mean if

2058
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 4: they can, if they came through the tomorrow with a

2059
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 4: rule like that, it would shock us all, but it wouldn't.

2060
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 4: I mean, it would surprise us all, but it wouldn't like,

2061
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 4: it wouldn't completely floor yet because of all the stuff

2062
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 4: we've already dealt with.

2063
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Lena Robinson's got two years left. Elliott, get

2064
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:32,679
Speaker 1: on the phone, right.

2065
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 4: Right, I say, yeah, I mean, think about think about

2066
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 4: a few years ago, when the whole portal thing became

2067
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 4: We're like, no guy can pick up and go wherever

2068
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 4: he wants. You know that would have if you would

2069
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 4: have so told somebody ten ten years ago, they would

2070
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 4: have said, no way, that's not happening. But you know,

2071
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 4: blow and behold. A few years later, we're dealing with it,

2072
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,560
Speaker 4: and I think the thing on I think at the

2073
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 4: end of the day, most people in our on our

2074
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 4: side of things, they want it. We want as much

2075
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:01,640
Speaker 4: as they as a student athlete can get. We're all

2076
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 4: in favor of them, you know, reaping the benefits of

2077
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 4: playing college basketball, whether that's financially on top of what

2078
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 4: they do. We want the best form, but at the

2079
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 4: same time it puts us in a pretty tough buying

2080
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 4: because a lot of the uncertainty doesn't exist at the

2081
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 4: pro level. There's a lot more restrictions at the professional

2082
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 4: level in terms of you know, you can't certain teams,

2083
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 4: can't talk to other teams about contracts, about playing different places.

2084
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 4: You know, there's a system in place, and I think

2085
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:32,680
Speaker 4: all we want at the end of the day is

2086
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 4: just a system. You know, what that consists of can

2087
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 4: be debated, But as long as we have a more

2088
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 4: organized system in place, we'll adjust and we'll make it work.

2089
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 4: But the fact that we don't have that or it

2090
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 4: changes so often is really what's the frustrating part of this.

2091
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 1: And I think we see this Elliott Bloom, our guest,

2092
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,639
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned you've got a player in Omar

2093
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: Meyer that that I believe was playing or was being

2094
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: compensated overseas, right, So does that also is that all

2095
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,640
Speaker 1: also kind of a wild wild west of you know

2096
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 1: what this guy's playing in, like the Premier League, and

2097
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 1: there's some really good leagues overseas, right, yeah, absolutely, does

2098
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: you know where do things? I don't even know, Like

2099
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 1: what is is there a parameter on what player you

2100
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 1: can get out of the overseas leagues?

2101
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's. I mean it's all comes down to, like

2102
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 4: what what was their agreement with those club teams over

2103
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 4: there and with those leagues. So like in Europe, most

2104
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 4: kids grow up, they don't like play at the public

2105
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 4: high school. And if you're identified as a player, you're

2106
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 4: going to join a club. And so like the names

2107
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 4: that most general casual fans know of, you know Real

2108
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,759
Speaker 4: Madrid and you know Barcelona and all those big teams

2109
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 4: over there names they all have club teams, and so

2110
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 4: you could be with your club team for twelve years.

2111
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,640
Speaker 4: You know, you could be identified as a seven year

2112
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 4: old you're really good, all right, I'm playing club and

2113
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 4: you're with that team, and then in their in their eyes,

2114
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 4: you're gonna as you get older, you're going to matriculate

2115
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 4: up through the system, and then you're eventually going to

2116
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:00,600
Speaker 4: play for our top team, which in a lot of

2117
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 4: those clubs cases plays in the EuroLeague, which is the

2118
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 4: second best professional basketball league in the world. And so

2119
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 4: that's how they kind of grow their clubs and their leagues. Now,

2120
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 4: at any point in that time, as long as the

2121
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 4: contract makes it so where it would work, they can

2122
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 4: leave and go play college of basketball. Now I don't

2123
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 4: I'm not well versed enough to know, like, at what

2124
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 4: point do you play over there for the on the

2125
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 4: main team that's playing in the EuroLeague. If you're there

2126
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Speaker 4: like five or six years, at what point there's your

2127
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 4: window closed? I don't know that answer, But a lot

2128
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 4: of these guys have decisions to make now because of

2129
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 4: the money that's entered our game. Before. You know, it

2130
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 4: didn't really it wasn't in their best interest. They could

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01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 4: they were going to get paid more money to stay

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01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 4: over there. Anyway, there was a lot to be said

2133
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 4: for playing in front of your home family and you're

2134
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 4: playing in your home country, that kind of stuff, And

2135
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 4: then if you got good enough, then obviously NBA teams

2136
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 4: could come over and drafting, and that's been the case

2137
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 4: for a long time time now. But now what's changed

2138
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 4: is with with the collectives, especially last year and now

2139
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 4: with rev share being a thing. Uh, some of these

2140
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 4: players are realizing that they could go make maybe a

2141
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 4: little bit more money and get better exposure for NBA

2142
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 4: teams as well that are coming to our gyms, you know,

2143
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 4: almost on a nightly basis when we play games the

2144
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 4: scout guys. So it's really changed some things, and you've

2145
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 4: got a lot more You're seeing a lot more international

2146
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 4: players signed with colleges than you probably ever have. And

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01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 4: it's also creating an interesting dynamic because some of these

2148
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 4: these clubs over there aren't so high on the fact

2149
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 4: that we're coming over and taking players, and so now

2150
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 4: there's been there. I think you're going to see a

2151
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 4: new wave of when these kids grow up in clubs

2152
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 4: and then play for the professional team over there, well,

2153
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 4: they start putting clauses in contracts that say, Okay, if

2154
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 4: you leave, yeah you leave for college program, you're going

2155
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 4: to owe this number.

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01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,839
Speaker 1: Am I correct? At Meyer played either with or against,

2157
01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, like Carson Edwards or Trevian Williams.

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01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 4: Right, I mean like yeah with the teammate, Yeah, teammate

2159
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 4: with Trevion and played against Carson Era.

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01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 1: So you get cross pollination where then all of a sudden,

2161
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: these guys are becoming familiar with right and vice versa. Okay, absolutely, Hey, lastly,

2162
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: Elliott and I appreciate the time Elliot Bloom our guest,

2163
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 1: the director of basketball operations for Purdue. You know when

2164
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: for me as a player, and I mean obviously I

2165
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: was not a college player, but when I played basketball, honestly,

2166
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 1: my favorite part of the basketball, of all of it

2167
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 1: was away games. Just getting off the bus, like with

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Speaker 1: my teammates and seeing like the fans there. There was

2169
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 1: just this camaraderie that came with it, right as a

2170
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 1: fan or as a media member. I think my favorite

2171
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: time is like selection Sunday when the weather breaks and

2172
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where teams are going to be

2173
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: slotted and who you're playing and whatever. For you being

2174
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 1: so intimately involved with it, What is your favorite part

2175
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 1: of being a part of Predue Basketball?

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01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 4: Probably the road wins. It's probably being honest, I mean,

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01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 4: I love it all. I wouldn't be doing it as

2178
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 4: long as I've done it if I didn't love it.

2179
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm all in on what we do and

2180
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,320
Speaker 4: very fortunate to work with a staff that gets along

2181
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 4: so well that it makes it fun to go to

2182
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 4: work every day. And I don't feel like I've ever

2183
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 4: gotten up and actually gone to a job. But the

2184
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 4: road winds are like exactly what you just described like

2185
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 4: you know, we always talk about it. It's usually about

2186
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 4: thirty versus you know, fifteen, sixteen thousand, and you're going

2187
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 4: in with most of the time, you're not favor to

2188
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 4: win a road game. You're going into a hostile environment,

2189
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 4: and you kind of got a band together with the

2190
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 4: other guys in that locker room and find a way

2191
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 4: to get it done. And when you do that and

2192
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 4: you sit there like the best times are like, okay,

2193
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 4: there's forty five seconds left and the fans are heading

2194
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 4: for the exits because you're up twelve, Like I don't

2195
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 4: know if there's a better feeling, and you're kind of

2196
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 4: whispering on the bench like hey, hey, look, look, look

2197
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 4: they're all leaving. They're all leaving. And then you get

2198
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 4: in that locker room and you celebrate, and they're not

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01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 4: just celebrating the win. You're celebrating all the work you

2200
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 4: put in. You're celebrating all the hours you spent with

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01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 4: each other. And you know, I tell people all the time,

2202
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 4: people think that, well, college basketball kicks off in November,

2203
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 4: Like not for us, it kicks off in June. You know,

2204
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 4: we go to work in June and our guys get

2205
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 4: here for summer school, and we're pretty much with them

2206
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 4: until April, and so it's a long it's the longest season,

2207
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 4: you know, of college sports. It's got the longest amount

2208
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 4: of time that you're with each other as a team.

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Speaker 4: And so those moments when you can kind of accomplish

2210
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 4: things together as a team under some harsh environment kind

2211
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 4: of situations, those are the most rewarding for me.

2212
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Speaker 1: By the way, I always forget this. Were you Lapel

2213
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: High School?

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01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 4: Is that right?

2215
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: I went to Mount Vernon, Mount Vernon, that's right. Don't

2216
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 1: you have the record for like twenty six threes in

2217
01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 1: a game at Mount Vernon? Isn't that right?

2218
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 4: I made eleven at a game.

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01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 1: Coach how he how it was when he was at

2220
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Lapel He told me about it, I think right.

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01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 4: Yet probably he was coaching me at Mount Vernon and

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01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 4: then later went to Lapel where he played, and we

2223
01:57:56,840 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 4: had had the basket looked about ten feet that night

2224
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 4: over at Lapel. It was one of those nights where

2225
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 4: anybody who's ever played, you know, you get in one

2226
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 4: of those rhythms and the basket looks bigger than it

2227
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 4: is and it ended up going my way that night.

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Speaker 1: You had eleven threes? How made you take?

2229
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 4: I took nineteen.

2230
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 1: That's not bad, because it'd be one thing if you're like, woll,

2231
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 1: I was eleven of forty seven. You know what I mean?

2232
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 4: Right? Exactly? Well, I look back at the amount of

2233
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:23,480
Speaker 4: amount of threes I took in some of those games.

2234
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta buy Coach how a couple extra

2235
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 4: dinners here, because let one guy shoot eighteen nineteen. I

2236
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 4: had twenty one three point attempts in one game one time,

2237
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 4: and I was like, holy cow, Like, now you know,

2238
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 4: when you're in it, you don't realize. Then you get

2239
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 4: you get around the game, and you you know, get

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01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 4: to this level and you sit back and go with

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01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 4: twenty one to three point attempts in one game for

2242
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 4: one person. That's insane.

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01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 1: See. But I had that many, I think in one

2244
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: game because I couldn't learn the offense. So I was like,

2245
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 1: you know what if the ball time my way, I'm like,

2246
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 1: it's going up. I have no idea where I'm supposed

2247
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 1: to go with it.

2248
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 4: Better than a turnover, Like we always say, you can

2249
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 4: rebound a shot, you can't rebound a turnover.

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Speaker 1: Good way of saying it, right, All right, so pretty

2251
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 1: good sudden way against Kentucky. Elliott Bloom. That is an

2252
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 1: exhibition game coming up on Friday night. Elliott, I'd love

2253
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 1: to have you back on the show man. I always

2254
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and I always enjoy the conversation no anytime.

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01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 4: I like listening to you guys, and you guys are

2256
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 4: always treated as well. So appreciate it.

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01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 1: Appreciate it very much. Elliott Bloom from Purdue Basketball, the

2258
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 1: director of operations on the Java House. Peel and poor

2259
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 1: guests line. Lots of Java House locations up in Lafayette,

2260
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 1: by the way, another recruiting tactic for Purdue. Perhaps.

2261
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 2: I know, I know he said a lot of good

2262
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 2: stuff in there, Jake, but I'm gonna be so confident

2263
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 2: to say this that the favorite part or the best

2264
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 2: part of the interview was the fact that he made

2265
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 2: an analogy when explaining something and put it in terms

2266
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 2: in which that you can understand it.

2267
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 1: The Uker analogy was fantastic. Now, Yuker is the one

2268
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,640
Speaker 1: where when you have you know what's funny, it's been

2269
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 1: a long time SCE that played you. I mean, who

2270
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 1: doesn't Indiana play Yuker? Right? Isn't that?

2271
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 5: Though?

2272
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:50,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes where you have a teammate and you go alone. Yeah,

2273
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:52,280
Speaker 1: teammates like I'm going I'm going alone on this one.

2274
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 1: That always happened to me. Of course. It's shocking. It's

2275
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 1: shocking that whoever I was with, even if they had

2276
01:59:58,160 --> 02:00:00,040
Speaker 1: a bad hand, Like, nah, dude, I'm going to live.

2277
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 2: Here right, kind of like your email address. Two things

2278
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 2: that you love the most, you, Jake Queery.

2279
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 1: My email address is Jake Queer at me dot com.

2280
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 1: My two favorite people Baby Elliott's great, huge, huge fan

2281
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:16,560
Speaker 1: here of Elliott Bloom. I just think his perspectives an insight,

2282
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate, truly do the overall just the

2283
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 1: i'll say transparency for lack of a better word, but yes,

2284
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 1: an access of pretty basketball with especially with this radio station,

2285
02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean obviously the relationship that Matt Painter

2286
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 1: and J ANDV you know have had and developed over

2287
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:41,480
Speaker 1: the years on the air, and you know Elliott, PJ. Thompson,

2288
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, on and on, very very much appreciated.

2289
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:48,080
Speaker 2: It's pretty You don't see it often anymore in sports, Jake,

2290
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 2: professionally or at the collegiate level, where you know, people

2291
02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 2: in some major power making decisions are so transparent as

2292
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 2: you put it, and open about how they operate things

2293
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 2: and how they want to answer things, like they usually

2294
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 2: just give you, like the standards totally.

2295
02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the way that Purdue does it

2296
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 1: is so impressive because not only are they, you know,

2297
02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:15,720
Speaker 1: ranked number one, right, but and continue know, they just

2298
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:19,600
Speaker 1: have roster continuity. But Eddie, they seem to have this

2299
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 1: thing of like, yeah, well you know what, like those

2300
02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 1: in glass houses should not throw stones, and in produce case,

2301
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because they have a glasshouse because they're like, yeah,

2302
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, feel free to look in on what we're doing. Yeah,

2303
02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:35,680
Speaker 1: we we have a way we do it. We believe

2304
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 1: in the way we do it, and that's we go

2305
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 1: out and do it. There you go. And even though

2306
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:46,920
Speaker 1: they have not won a title, it feels as though

2307
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 1: for the last five to ten years that they're the

2308
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,960
Speaker 1: most the best program at college basketball. Certainly, I mean,

2309
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:58,000
Speaker 1: Connecticut obviously is way up there, but the downs for

2310
02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:01,440
Speaker 1: other programs don't feel you know, produced does. It doesn't

2311
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:03,640
Speaker 1: feel like produced dips are that big a dip, right,

2312
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:06,000
Speaker 1: They just are constantly there, Like like last.

2313
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 2: Year, for example, is a quote unquote dip and what

2314
02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:09,280
Speaker 2: they made to the Sweet sixteen.

2315
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's exactly.

2316
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 5: And and.

2317
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:15,360
Speaker 1: You know, in getting beat by Houston here, I mean

2318
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:17,200
Speaker 1: they were right there with them the whole. I mean

2319
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 1: they played really well. Yeah, that was a darn good team.

2320
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 1: They lost too.

2321
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Speaker 2: I'll be fascinated to see how things change once that

2322
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 2: breakthrough happens, Like, you know, what's inevitable with how dominant

2323
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 2: they've been that once they win one, you mean, yes, yeah,

2324
02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 2: how does it change, like their perception and how they're

2325
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 2: viewed at the national levee.

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02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good I mean, I you know, I

2327
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 1: think one of the things that but you know, to

2328
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people of a certain age group, you know, produce.

2329
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:48,800
Speaker 1: I think that everyone knows it's a Big ten school, right,

2330
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 1: I just think that there are a lot of people

2331
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 1: outside of Beniana that probably aren't totally sure where it is. Yeah.

2332
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 4: And and.

2333
02:02:56,480 --> 02:03:00,480
Speaker 1: Then also you'd have to be even older than I,

2334
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 1: but there are some people, believe it or not, that

2335
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:03,960
Speaker 1: still probably think of Purdue as like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: cradle of quarterbacks football types. It kind of even between

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Speaker 1: football and basketball as opposed to a dominant in one

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Speaker 1: sport or the other.

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Speaker 2: Because like to me, if they continue on this path

2340
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 2: that they're currently on, and you know, they make it

2341
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 2: to a handful of final fours, they make it to

2342
02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 2: the you know, championship game like every once in every

2343
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:23,680
Speaker 2: three years. Then you I don't want to put them

2344
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 2: in this category. But they mean, you're like Gonzaga of

2345
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:26,040
Speaker 2: the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, that's fair. I mean, you know, Gonzaga is

2347
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: another one. I they are fascinating because for so long

2348
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 1: there was the it just seemed inevitable that they were

2349
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 1: going to jump into a bigger conference or whatever else.

2350
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 1: And you know they're they're like, hey, we're just here

2351
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:46,760
Speaker 1: to sit and hang out and then get beat by

2352
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 1: Saint Mary's every year. And our boy Randy Bennett.

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02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 2: Right, you know, it's always like one of the in

2354
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 2: those games, like one whoever wins the rank of the

2355
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:55,600
Speaker 2: season exactly.

2356
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 1: Correct the tournament, that's exactly correct.

2357
02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:59,400
Speaker 2: Kind of like how you predict, you know, for the

2358
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff Indiana, I'm telling you lose the rank

2359
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:05,040
Speaker 2: of the Big Ten championship game to Ohio State and

2360
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 2: then come back in the CFPN win.

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Speaker 1: I get this message, Okay, I get this message yesterday,

2362
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, no, it's It's a guy I

2363
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:19,760
Speaker 1: know and like a lot, but he lives an Ohio

2364
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 1: Big Ohio State fan, Jake, I'm gonna give you my

2365
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:26,720
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory for Indiana and Ohio State. We're gonna meet

2366
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:28,680
Speaker 1: up in the Big Ten Championship game and we're gonna

2367
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:31,040
Speaker 1: let Indiana have the win. We don't want to show

2368
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 1: off everything we have for you guys and save it

2369
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 1: for the playoffs since we'll most likely meet again there.

2370
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:40,400
Speaker 1: You're right, Ohio State is going to back off and

2371
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 1: if they loose, you know, let's just set the table now,

2372
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 1: to which I reply to course, why would in Indiana

2373
02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:49,200
Speaker 1: do the same thing, telling you Ohio State fans don't

2374
02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:52,080
Speaker 1: want to admit it. Indiana is really, really, really good.

2375
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:55,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State's very good. They are exceptional. They have they

2376
02:04:55,600 --> 02:05:01,600
Speaker 1: have outstanding players and talented the receiver position notably. But

2377
02:05:01,720 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 1: don't sleep on Indiana. And I'm telling you, Indiana is

2378
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 1: going to lose to Ohio State in the Big Ten

2379
02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:10,200
Speaker 1: title game and then Indiana is going to beat Ohio

2380
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 1: State in the National title game.

2381
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:13,720
Speaker 2: Imagine if it was the other way around. In Indiana

2382
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 2: loses to Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship game,

2383
02:05:16,120 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 2: like that losses means more to Ohio State than if

2384
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:21,560
Speaker 2: Indiana loses to Ohio State in the Big ten turnerment.

2385
02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 1: That's fair championship game.

2386
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 2: Because all those Ohio State you know, fans are going

2387
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 2: to be calling from Ryan days you lost to Indiana well,

2388
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:33,160
Speaker 2: and of course we have to you lost to Kurt Signetty.

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02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 1: We have to keep in mind that Ohio State is

2390
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 1: going to be entering that game coming off of lost

2391
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 1: to Michigan for like the fifth straight year. Okay World

2392
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Speaker 1: Series is Actually I'm surprised by this. It feels now

2393
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:46,320
Speaker 1: like you know, all this momentum and for me, I mean,

2394
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Speaker 1: and I haven't slept as a Blue Jays fan and

2395
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,200
Speaker 1: anxiously awaiting this. That's why you've had two cups of

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Speaker 1: Java House coffee today. That's exactly correct. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: all in right, and so the you know what, I've

2398
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Speaker 1: actually thought about this. We're using code Jake twenty five.

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Speaker 1: You get twenty five percent off your order on Java

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Speaker 1: house dot com. That is correct. I've thought about this.

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Speaker 2: How cool is it, by the way, that you could

2402
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 2: use your own code to save you money.

2403
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:15,200
Speaker 1: It is pretty awesome. And I do purchase from job

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Speaker 1: house dot com now Dodgers in Blue Jays games one

2405
02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 1: and two Friday and Saturday. I think I think my

2406
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:24,840
Speaker 1: buddy Michael and his band, The Elector are at the

2407
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,200
Speaker 1: Rathskeller beer Garten coming up on Saturday.

2408
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 2: And then you're not talking about are the buddy Michael

2409
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 2: from Australia.

2410
02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:33,480
Speaker 1: Not Australian Michael Michael from the elect Do we know

2411
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:36,200
Speaker 1: how he's doing, by the way, we haven't chatted about

2412
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:37,400
Speaker 1: him Michael and Australia.

2413
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:37,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2414
02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 2: You's seeing Pacers season at the start. Oh believe he's doing.

2415
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:42,320
Speaker 1: He's sending me the videos already of how much he's

2416
02:06:42,360 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 1: anticipating and he's expecting fifty five wins this year. But

2417
02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 1: if it weren't for the fact that The Elector was

2418
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 1: playing at the ras Scaler on Saturday, I honestly think

2419
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 1: I might go to Toronto. Take in game two.

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Speaker 2: Give me some ketchup chips on the way, Yes, go

2421
02:06:57,520 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 2: over there.

2422
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 1: Drive, I could drive. It's eight hours, go to the game,

2423
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:06,640
Speaker 1: drive back Sunday. Like, let's go. I leave at ten

2424
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:10,440
Speaker 1: in the morning, stop just enough time to get stop

2425
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:13,680
Speaker 1: at roots, get some ketchup chips. Take in game two.

2426
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 1: What are tickets going for Do you think that's a

2427
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:18,160
Speaker 1: great question? What's the or better?

2428
02:07:18,280 --> 02:07:18,440
Speaker 6: Yet?

2429
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 1: If I get a room in SkyDome to overlook the outfield, okay,

2430
02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:27,440
Speaker 1: how much would There's no way you can get a

2431
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 1: hotel room in SkyDome right now. There's only like so

2432
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 1: many of them out that overlook the stadium. Anyway, I'm

2433
02:07:32,200 --> 02:07:34,640
Speaker 1: going to go. We're gonna look it up. Game one

2434
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:37,840
Speaker 1: or two for the World Series? What is the what

2435
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:41,240
Speaker 1: is the get in price? Right now? The best part

2436
02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:43,800
Speaker 1: about it is with the exchange rate, it's free. Basically,

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02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:47,720
Speaker 1: I've seen the prices already cheated. All right, I want

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02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 1: you to tell me on the other side, Okay, Eddie,

2439
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 1: to keep in mind with the exchange rate, it's everything's

2440
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,280
Speaker 1: basically free in Canada. Matter of fact, we're not far

2441
02:07:57,360 --> 02:07:58,800
Speaker 1: away from where you go and they just pay you

2442
02:07:58,920 --> 02:08:03,440
Speaker 1: to take stuff. Having said that, the World Series Game

2443
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:05,360
Speaker 1: one or two, I don't know if if there's a

2444
02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:08,440
Speaker 1: difference a difference in price between games one or two,

2445
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:12,560
Speaker 1: but the get in price, I'm gonna say this it

2446
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 1: I've been to I think Roger Center is what it's

2447
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:19,440
Speaker 1: known now, Skydom. I've been to games there. It's you know,

2448
02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:24,920
Speaker 1: it's a big stadium. Whatever. Two hundred ninety bucks is

2449
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 1: my guess for the top like far right fields, you know,

2450
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:29,440
Speaker 1: worst seats you can get.

2451
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 2: There is a whopping seventeen dollars difference between game one

2452
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:35,600
Speaker 2: and game two in terms of price.

2453
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so three hundred and seven for game two, you're

2454
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:41,080
Speaker 1: not even close. Okay, go ahead.

2455
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:45,640
Speaker 2: Game one six forty seven, Game two six point thirty.

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Speaker 1: That seems steep. Telling you, now here's the thing though,

2457
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:53,960
Speaker 1: with that exchange rate that comes out to twenty five bucks. Right,

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Speaker 1: twenty five American J ANDV has arrived. It is time

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Speaker 1: dot com. It is not often when John comes in

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Speaker 1: that he is intently looking at his phone, but it

2466
02:09:16,840 --> 02:09:17,880
Speaker 1: appears as though he's in.

2467
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Speaker 3: Ten jobs checking out what time I'm going on on

2468
02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:23,280
Speaker 3: Sunday right here and where we make sure?

2469
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:24,920
Speaker 1: Would you like to read the big announcement there that

2470
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:28,280
Speaker 1: they've given to us, why don't you do it? You've

2471
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:29,880
Speaker 1: read over it? Do you happen to have the breaking

2472
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:37,400
Speaker 1: news sounder Eddie programming notes for all of you This Sunday,

2473
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: the Colts and Tennessee Titans will be available on our

2474
02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 1: sister station ninety seven point one Hank FM. The Ride

2475
02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 1: to kick Off with JMV and the Colts pregame Huddle

2476
02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 1: will be available on ninety three five one oh seventy

2477
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 1: five to the fan, the station where you're hearing my

2478
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:53,640
Speaker 1: voice right now, Starting at twelve thirty, the fan will

2479
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 1: have the Pacers at Minnesota with Mark Boyle, Eddie Gill

2480
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 1: and Pat Boylan and all the action beginning at six

2481
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 1: third right here on the fan. If you're saying to

2482
02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:05,360
Speaker 1: yourself away there's a huge gap there, it's because in John,

2483
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:09,360
Speaker 1: it's going to be literally Friday afternoon before it registers

2484
02:10:09,400 --> 02:10:12,160
Speaker 1: to me. This is a late game, four o'clock start

2485
02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:14,960
Speaker 1: for the Colts on Sunday. That's good too. Little Hoop

2486
02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:18,440
Speaker 1: can be played now on Sunday morning. That is good man,

2487
02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:21,520
Speaker 1: That is correct. Of course. Again, you've got the pregame

2488
02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:23,240
Speaker 1: at twelve thirty, right right.

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Speaker 3: Twelve thirty. We'll start at the Bullseyevangroup dot com, colts

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Speaker 3: v ip te Yay, what is lined up on your

2491
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 3: big show for today? We will do Omar Cooper Junior,

2492
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 3: the former Lawrence North stand out multi sport athlete who

2493
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:37,440
Speaker 3: is having a great season for I use a wide

2494
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:41,760
Speaker 3: receiver and has a great story about how he almost

2495
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:46,600
Speaker 3: left and why he didn't initially leave when Kurt Signetti

2496
02:10:46,640 --> 02:10:48,080
Speaker 3: took over and they changed coaches.

2497
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:51,960
Speaker 1: Really key story. He had a play against Oregon that

2498
02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 1: I just thought was so like the perfect summary of

2499
02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti in this Indiana team in the fact that

2500
02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:03,800
Speaker 1: he had kind of a one handed grab. But then

2501
02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 1: he comes down John and he realizes he makes a spin,

2502
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,480
Speaker 1: catches himself with his left hand to keep himself balanced,

2503
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:11,640
Speaker 1: and has the presence of mind to know that he's

2504
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:13,680
Speaker 1: still like two yard side the first down marker and

2505
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:18,200
Speaker 1: lunges forward to it with his body spinning. That awareness

2506
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:21,720
Speaker 1: and ability to make that play is just with Kurt

2507
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 1: Signetti's team. It just feels like that's the way this

2508
02:11:25,400 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 1: Indiana football team has been playing, right. Is just that

2509
02:11:28,360 --> 02:11:30,360
Speaker 1: that overall awareness is so they.

2510
02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:33,200
Speaker 3: May have the best trio of wide receivers in college football.

2511
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:36,720
Speaker 3: Natty I mean he talked about this before. Who is

2512
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:40,080
Speaker 3: your favorite all time wide receivers for IU?

2513
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:42,520
Speaker 1: Rob Turner?

2514
02:11:43,400 --> 02:11:47,400
Speaker 3: Loved Rob Turner, Nor Central Grad right, No Star Chatar.

2515
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, bomber Well. I mean, if you're going that route,

2516
02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:52,840
Speaker 1: I'd have to say Dwayne Gunn Yes, but no, I

2517
02:11:52,840 --> 02:11:57,560
Speaker 1: would say Rob Turner. I mean Ernie Jones should have

2518
02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 1: won the Heisman in eighty seven. Thomas Lewis, Scotti McGowan's

2519
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:05,520
Speaker 1: up there, Thomas Lewis that ninety nine yarder he had

2520
02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 1: against Pensy or was it not not a ninety nine

2521
02:12:07,560 --> 02:12:10,480
Speaker 1: yarder against Pence State? But darn close. And Williams turned

2522
02:12:10,520 --> 02:12:12,640
Speaker 1: into a wide receiver there too. He did, didn't he?

2523
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:16,040
Speaker 1: Levron Williams Evansville Bossy High School? He was another one.

2524
02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 1: Levron and Antoine randellel were quite the duo there, for sure.

2525
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 1: I didn't like though. Now here's my one thing about

2526
02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:27,320
Speaker 1: Indiana football, and this admittedly one hundred percent guilty is charged.

2527
02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 1: This is an age bias, Okay. I wish they would

2528
02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 1: go back to the Mallory era almost maroon looking helmets

2529
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 1: with the white black eye. I know they wear them occasionally, yeah,

2530
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:39,000
Speaker 1: but I love that look.

2531
02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:41,840
Speaker 3: Man, love I do too like is that that like

2532
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:44,600
Speaker 3: the almost even private to Mallory Tim Clifford that look

2533
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:48,680
Speaker 3: the breaking away practice. Well, remember they're laying there, that's

2534
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:51,560
Speaker 3: watching you in practice.

2535
02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 1: And do you remember when Sam White in his one

2536
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:57,320
Speaker 1: year decided to change it to truly like cream and

2537
02:12:57,360 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 1: Crimson and then the eyu with the streaking you on

2538
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:03,760
Speaker 1: the side of it, and that was a disaster. Then

2539
02:13:03,800 --> 02:13:05,320
Speaker 1: he went to the Bengals and that was the end

2540
02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:08,520
Speaker 1: of it. Remember the Bowl if the first Bowl Mallory's

2541
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:10,960
Speaker 1: team played in, that would have been the All American

2542
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:13,920
Speaker 1: Bowl where Sammy Smith of Florida Stanley go. Man, this

2543
02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:17,320
Speaker 1: Sammy Smith reference right there, two thirty six. I think

2544
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:19,200
Speaker 1: he went for in that game. He's still running. I

2545
02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:21,720
Speaker 1: think right now. Mallory went to here we go All

2546
02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:23,760
Speaker 1: American bull went to the Peach Bowl twice, went to

2547
02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:26,720
Speaker 1: the Liberty Bowl, went to the the last one was

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Speaker 1: to pull on weeding Independence Bowl, and then also the

2549
02:13:29,640 --> 02:13:31,360
Speaker 1: Copper Bowl, now the Inside dot Com Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Let's give a shout out to Gary Harris listening right now,

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02:13:34,680 --> 02:13:37,680
Speaker 3: Gary Harris senior, by the way, not junior. Gary Harris Senior,

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02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:40,520
Speaker 3: says Courtney Roby Corney Ruby's.

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02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 1: A really good one. Another one right, the other North

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02:13:41,720 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 1: Central guy. Good time, Gary Harrison. Have you ever met

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02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:46,680
Speaker 1: Gary Harris? I don't know that I have.

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02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:49,720
Speaker 3: Actually one of the greatest dudes of all time. I'm

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02:13:49,720 --> 02:13:51,960
Speaker 3: blowing so much sunshine up his rear end right now.

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02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:54,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna love it. And I'm assuming I'll see him

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Speaker 3: tomorrow because he always goes to Joe's grilling fishers, you know.

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02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:57,320
Speaker 4: For that matter.

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02:13:57,520 --> 02:13:59,440
Speaker 1: Gary Harris Junior, pretty darn good wide receiver.

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02:13:59,600 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 5: Right.

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02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:03,240
Speaker 3: We kind of wonder, right he's met his great career

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02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:05,760
Speaker 3: as a professional playing basketball, but you kind of wonder

2565
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:07,960
Speaker 3: wide receiving wise.

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Speaker 1: Talented. All Right, John's up next, and we will be

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02:14:12,760 --> 02:14:15,480
Speaker 1: back with you at noon tomorrow. Thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to Quarrying Company.