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Welcome. 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: All right, So let's start with registricting and of course, 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: so that is going on at the State House this week. 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: And us start with this, Jim. I think one of 40 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: the things that's so frustrating for people is they feel 41 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: like they're not being heard. And when you so the 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: House has reconvened this week on redistricting, and with less 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: than twenty four hour hours notice, you go, okay, we're 44 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: gonna have a public comment. People go, but how would 45 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: I get there? Like, what aren't I supposed to be 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: a part of this? Aren't I supposed to be? I mean, 47 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: the people just look at this and go okay. So 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: the just like with everything else, the fix is in. 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: You know. It's uh. 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: That makes Senator Greg good town hall meeting so great 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 4: because he had he had had people had plenty of 52 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 4: time to plan. It was just for his district constituents alone, 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: and and uh and no one shows up to support 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: the idea of redrawing the districts. 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: And that I think they got two that's it? Okay, 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: think yesterday they got two? 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 3: Is that right? 58 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: Two people in the committee? I don't know, Abdul. You 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: took up an entire studio for a whole day recording it. 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 5: It was five hour hearing. Yes, so it was a 61 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 5: two out of the one hundred something not people who testified. 62 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 5: There was basically two people testified in favor, and one 63 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 5: guy was from the Heritage Foundation group that kind of 64 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 5: helped draw the maps. 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: So that's my point. 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: Marrey. You say, okay, the fixes in. You don't care 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: at all about good government, you don't care at all 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: about what the people think, you don't care about affecting 69 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 2: people's lives. You're just gonna do what you're gonna do. 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: And so this is just politics as usual. 71 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: Well, you know, every every ten years, all the way 72 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: back to twenty twenty one and before that, they always 73 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: relied on data. They relied on on district lines, They 74 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: relied on the people in the district and who they represent, 75 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: and all the different situations that you know, people live in, 76 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: and and and it's this is completely contrary to what 77 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: happened in twenty twenty one, eleven and before that. And 78 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: and I you've studied this, Abdul, but I've never seen 79 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: any data. I've never seen anything that supports these maps. 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: And they're they're going through the motions of transparency. 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 5: When the maps were drawn ten years ago, I remember 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 5: having a conversation with Greg Stewtwall, because Greg drew the 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 5: maps for the house side of everything. Back in twenty twenty. 84 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: Back in twenty twenty one, we had a really detailed conversation. 85 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: I here's the data, here's the lines drawn obvious, we're 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 5: gonna drop to hey, Republicans, We're not gonna We're not 87 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 5: gonna go overboard. It'll be sort of the natural progression 88 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: of things. This time there there was no data. The 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 5: lines are all zig zaggy s quick. Let's put it 90 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 5: this way. Here's how, here's how. Jack of the lines 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 5: are the ninth district, which is Aaron Houchen, which is 92 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 5: New Albany. The Higho River stretches all the way along 93 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: I sixty five and into the frank into Decatur and 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 5: Wayne townships in Indianapolis. Now, please note, what does Aaron 95 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 5: Aaron's a good girl, lover to death. What does Aeron 96 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 5: know about thirty eighth and High School Road? Not the 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 5: same thing she knows about about everything. 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: Not much, not a darn thing all. 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: Come on, Maret, that was a good one. 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 5: Thirty eighth in High School Road has a lot more 101 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 5: in common with thirty eighth and Emerson than it does 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 5: with New Albany. 103 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: Well, and so let's go with that. Because Casey the 104 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: Kennel and Case show my day job. Most people know that, 105 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: I assume, but for those who don't. Nine to noon 106 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: ninety three point one WIBC in Indianapolis, we were talking 107 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: about just this which the disruption these maps would cause 108 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: in terms of the communities themselves. Right, the way commerce operates. 109 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: One of the things that you look at in the 110 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: northeastern part of the I'm sorry, northwestern part of the state, 111 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: that first congressional district, is it's all the people that 112 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: are in central time zone are together. That makes sense. 113 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: This new map would totally gut that up, and it 114 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: would stretch this map basically halfway across the state from 115 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: the northwest corner halfway across the state. And you say, 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: a huge part of being a representative is just that 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: you represent like minded community. So you're not you're not 118 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: having to flip a coin or choose if people have 119 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: different interests, and you're right up duel, Indianapolis has nothing 120 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: in common with the southern tip of the state of Indiana, 121 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: and the figest too. I'll let you if you want 122 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: a second. 123 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: Uh. 124 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: East Chicago, which is closer to my hometown of Chicago, 125 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 5: has a lot of work come with the with the 126 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 5: Chicago metropolitan area than it does with Cocomo, because I 127 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 5: think about it goes straight, it's all the way down 128 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: to Howard County, like Howard Count's like sort of the 129 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: split the dividing line here. 130 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: Of course, you know, Robert, you raised a very good point. 131 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: In in nineteen eighty two, I worked for a member 132 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: of Congress and we were. 133 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: When you were three years old. 134 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: We were situated an office in Kokomo, and we went 135 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: all the way up to State Road thirty in Merrillville, 136 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 4: and we had time zone problems. We had people could 137 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 4: you know, we didn't have an office up there. It 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: was very hard to represent fourteen counties in different time zones. 139 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: And and uh, it's it just it's really disappointing that 140 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: you're you're doing it. This is all political and we 141 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: haven't even gotten to the lawsuits. And in the cheat sheet, 142 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: and Billy, you did a really good job because we 143 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: know if it should this pass the Senate, and it 144 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: doesn't unless they really twist arms and break arms, it's 145 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: not going to pass the Senate. And and but if 146 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: it does, by the end of next week, you know, 147 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: lawsuits galore will happen. 148 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: Would you really want your fate to be dependent upon 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: Todd Rokita. 150 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: Not in this situation. 151 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: No, okay, So let's and by the way, I found 152 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 5: uh it's wants say be a clip off Todd Raketa 153 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 5: talk about fairy districting and drawing maps recently. 154 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: It was like a YouTube clip. 155 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, from twenty ten. So, mayor I wanted to go 156 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: there with this because obviously, which you're gonna try to 157 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: get to a lot here in the in the thirty 158 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: ish minutes that we have, but people we'll forget. So 159 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: Todd Rakey is now big prople the Attorney General of 160 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: Indiana's now a big proponent of these new maps, and 161 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: people forget, maybe including him. I don't know if he 162 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: suffered a head injury or what. But you know, fifteen 163 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: years ago Todd Roketa, to his credit, back when he 164 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: was a far more normal, decent member of society than 165 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: what we see today. In many cases, he proposed the 166 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: idea of essentially letting artificial intelligence or you know, an 167 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: independent source, not not even like the commissions or whatever 168 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: we see now, but draw quote unquote fair maps like 169 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: that when people go, well, there's no such thing as 170 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: a fair map. Well, our now current Attorney General didn't 171 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: agree with that when he was a Secretary of State 172 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: because he took a great deal of grief over this position. 173 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: And you were in the Senate at the time. 174 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he did take a lot of grief. And uh, 175 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 4: because the code says that the legislature draws the maps. 176 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: I remember that very very clearly. And we always thought 177 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: that all the state wides got together with Mitch Governor 178 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 4: Mitch Daniels and he got the short end of the stick. 179 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: But of course the Secretary State at that time now 180 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: has something to do with elections, so he's the one 181 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: that went after it. And that was in twenty ten, 182 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: and so we were going to redraw the districts in 183 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 4: twenty eleven, and we really felt like he was just 184 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: kind of sticking his nose into it where he didn't 185 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 4: belong because no way. So this is nothing new, and 186 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: so yes, that happened. And it's amazing what fourteen years 187 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: will do or fourteen minutes, because people have been all 188 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: over the map on being against it, then supporting it, 189 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: and then against it, and it's just all a part 190 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: of what the day is. And he did come out. 191 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: It was a strong, strong push by him, but the legislature. 192 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 5: Just ignored it is. And here's even more fun party, 193 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 5: I double check something when because one the one thing 194 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: excuse is, well, Illinoy, they jerry mandered, there are maps 195 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 5: we need to fight Illinois and blah blah blah. Okay, 196 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 5: let's assumeing Illinoyd jerry mandered, because I did. And I 197 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 5: was like, yeah, we Jerry Madison. What are gonna do 198 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 5: about it? Because that's the Illinois attitude, which I can 199 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 5: love and respect. But that was back in twenty twenty one. 200 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 5: It's what four or five years right later. So if 201 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: you're gonna so the time to do all this, if 202 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 5: you were gonna do it, would have probably been back then. 203 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 5: They said like, hey, Eloyd, just your a manager. Their 204 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,239 Speaker 5: maps want to make sure that Indiana's keeps its no representation. 205 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 5: So we're gonna do this. So Ellinoy twenty twenty one, 206 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 5: twenty two to a best in Indiana twenty twenty five. 207 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: Four years later. 208 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, late to the game. 209 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: Well also late today. 210 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 5: I save it a time late to Sunday your talkols 211 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 5: else what else is new in this place? 212 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: But but you raise an interesting point that okay, illinoid 213 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: jerry mander of course, but so is Indiana. If you 214 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: look at the they they rigged Victoria's Sparks district because 215 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: they were worried she was gonna lose, and they made 216 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: Andre Carson stronger. Which is the hilarious thing about them 217 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: feigning this outrage over the seventh Congressional district being so blue. Well, 218 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: you guys just did it. And by the way, if 219 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: you I met a couple of people take a stab 220 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: at this and they said, okay, you might be if 221 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: you read drew like quote unquote fairly Illinois maps, you 222 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: could definitely get one more Republican seat, probably two. But 223 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: you have to factor in Chicago. You have to draw 224 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: all these districts around Chicago because of population. It's not 225 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: like it would be an even split in Illinois and 226 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 2: Indiana is basically justice jerrymandered based on population as the 227 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: state of element. 228 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 5: Because they remind people that two thirds of the Ellwen's 229 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 5: population lubs above I eighty. 230 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: That's right, if you look at it. 231 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 4: Supreme Court justices run for election and re election in 232 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 4: the state of Illinois, and if you look at their districts, 233 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: all the Supreme Court justices, not all of them, but 234 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: most of them huddle around Chicago and the rest. It's 235 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: just amazing. Let me have four or five Supreme Court 236 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: justices in that Chicago Land area, and then the rest 237 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: is maybe two or three Republican seats. And so they 238 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 4: they do jerrymandering for everything, and it's it's it's it's 239 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: a shame. It's a shame because people aren't being represented correctly. 240 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: And I will give our Republicans a shout out. In 241 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, the Mervan's seat, the seat number one 242 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: is compact, and they could have done one thing or another, 243 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 4: but everybody lauded the twenty twenty one seats. 244 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 2: Well, I come back to the idea of the representation. 245 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: It's why it's called a representative. Senators a whole state, right, 246 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: that's the reflection of the state. The representative is supposed 247 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: to be a representative of an area of people, a 248 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: much smaller block of people. And it shouldn't actually be 249 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: about politics. It should be about I'm representing this group 250 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: of people who share these points of commonality, these points 251 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: of common interest. And so when I go to Washington 252 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: and I vote, I'm voting on not the interest of 253 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: the Republican or Democrat party. I vote on the interest 254 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: of the people that I'm supposed to be representing, and 255 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: we are just admitting we are waving bye bye to 256 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: all of that. 257 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: I would say they're more than waving and we having 258 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 3: a middle finger. 259 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: Well, right, right, right, right, Okay, So let's talk about 260 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: by the way, listen to State House happening. Well, you 261 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: have your show in NEWSS you would like, I'll put 262 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: the commercials where I want to put them. Uh, it 263 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: is State House happening. Quickly, look at what's going on 264 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: with Indiana politics and government. Let's talk about the Senate 265 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: because I think we all know it's going to pass 266 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 2: the House. I think we all all know. I mean, 267 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: look the hypocrisy of people like Jim Lucas or Craig 268 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: Haggard who were against it and our maps are fine 269 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: and they're great, and then suddenly they get threatened by 270 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: a podcast or go to the White House or whatever, 271 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: and now, oh, I've changed my I've changed my mind. 272 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: The Senate is where this is all going to get 273 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 2: the sided. Yes, and I have heard from multiple people 274 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: in the media who are in and around the State 275 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: House on a consistent basis they do not think the 276 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: Senate is going to vote for this, which that's where 277 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: the intrigue is. Jim, I will start with you. Is 278 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: there a world where the Senate allows Mike Brown to 279 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: be humiliated in front of the entire country and votes 280 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: this down. 281 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: You know, Abdul probably has the numbers better than I do. 282 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: But as far as I know, there are twenty Republicans 283 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: against it, and that and there are forty Republicans, so 284 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: half their caucus is against it. You've got to have 285 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: twenty five votes with the Lieutenant governor breaking the tie. 286 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 4: So somehow, some way they've got to twist five arms. 287 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: There are fifteen people that are for it as far 288 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: as we know, and so you need you need, and 289 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: all the Democrats are going to vote against so right 290 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: now as I right right now, thirty twenty twenty to 291 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: thirty tw only in support and thirty or against it. 292 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: I don't know how you find five votes. 293 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: So you're assuming if someone hasn't said they're fourth, they're 294 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: against it. They're just trying to avoid the micootchic treatment. 295 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is smart. 296 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's safety and which is really terrible in this society. 297 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: But I don't know how you find five votes in 298 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: those members of the Senate because My experience is that 299 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: when they've made a decision on this, and they all 300 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: made a decision in August, because it will have been 301 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: a lot better if they had done this in August 302 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: when nobody was watching, and now the world's watching. But 303 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: there are twenty people members of the Senate. There are Republicans, 304 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: they're against it. There are ten Democrats are against it. 305 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: That's thirty votes. 306 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 5: It fails, and nothing to do is But but I 307 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 5: don't think people fully appreciate this kind of goes through 308 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 5: the culture of the of the legislature. Is Rod Bray 309 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 5: is a major institutionalist. Rob will protect the process, protect institution, 310 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: and protect his caucus. And to do this goes against 311 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 5: everything that they've done for and stood for since Rob 312 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: became since Rob became Center President. 313 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and every every Senate president in my lifetime is 314 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: Bobby Cardon, David Long been the same way. 315 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Jim, let me ask you this, because this 316 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: sort of comes down to how much juice does Rod 317 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: Bray actually have. Right, he's clearly against it, he doesn't 318 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: want it. Do you think he agreed to finally have 319 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: this vote because he just reached a point because Mike Braun, 320 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: the governor was was was insulting him, he was goating him, 321 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: he was threatening him. He finally just said, Okay, I've 322 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: tried to save you from yourself. Uh and and I've 323 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: done everything I can. I've warned you as politely as 324 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: but okay, now now we will just we will we 325 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: will do Like is that like in my mind? Like 326 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, you know this process, is 327 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: that what could be going on here? 328 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: I think I think it goes back to uh, you know, 329 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: a parade and a posse and uh and and uh 330 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 4: and Odd felt the pressure, you know, and he's just 331 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: very very flexible and and uh he said in a 332 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 4: statement that that early on that we won't go back 333 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 4: in December because there isn't enough time. There are no 334 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 4: votes against it, and and uh and I think he's 335 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: I think he did a really good job of representing 336 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: his caucus and he said, we don't have the votes 337 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: against it. The pressure came on the caucus of various 338 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 4: and sundry people and their districts, and and uh they 339 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: they he said, okay, you know, we'll do it, but 340 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: it's gonna fail and uh and uh you know, so 341 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: so kind of kind of told you so yeah, yeah. 342 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: I think that's Is it that simple, because like he want, 343 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: you know, I talked to our colleagues in the media, 344 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: people who are there. You know, they've all said the 345 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: same thing. We don't think there's the votes, I said, 346 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: but I just can't picture them like embarrassing the governor 347 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: like this. But maybe he's reached the point where ope, 348 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: but you're assuming that the up Innos relationship with the 349 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: Senate is a normal relationship. 350 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 5: It's not Hulcome in the Senate. It's not Mike Penson 351 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 5: the sent it's not miss Danels and it's Mike Braun. 352 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 5: And if you think at everything that Braun has done 353 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: so far, whether whether it's a property tax issue with 354 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: a healthcare issue, his whole thing. Rod has not built 355 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 5: the relationship. I'm sorry, not Rod, but uhn, Braun has 356 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: not built the relationship with the Senate that you need 357 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 5: for times like this and when you don't have it 358 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 5: and when you insult people, it's like, Okay, I was 359 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 5: going to use a colorful metaphor here, this is a 360 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 5: family program. Bring it on, you know. 361 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, I really think that. 362 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 4: I think that's the case that Rod in his leadership 363 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: circle kind of shrugged its shoulders. You've got your majority 364 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: leader that is for redistricting and and and it's every 365 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 4: man every woman for themselves in that caucus. And he thought, well, 366 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: you know, let's let's because Todd had opened the clock 367 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 4: on December first, uh and and made a plan for 368 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: the schedule, he said, well, let's do it, and uh, 369 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: we'll go through the motions nothing. 370 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: Now here's what I here's why I get really conspiratorial. 371 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 5: So so bear with me on this one. If if 372 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 5: let's some Rod and Todd talk to each other on 373 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 5: a regular basis, because I would if I were them. 374 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 5: He's like, hey, I could hear this conversation. Okay, senator, 375 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: We're gonna see you the worst possible map that we 376 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 5: could possibly draw and put together, so you have no 377 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 5: choice but to but to throw it down, right. 378 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 4: And you know, I think the federal government uh probably 379 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 4: is lobbying uh these state senators through funding or lack thereof, 380 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: and that pressure comes down on that and and uh 381 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: you know what, they they probably felt like they had 382 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: to go to a special session or session what everyone 383 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 4: called December session, uh, just to prove that the votes 384 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: weren't there and uh uh it's it's a fickle time 385 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 4: and it's it's uh ruinous. 386 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: You talk about institutionalists. 387 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: I am one, and I believe in the system, and 388 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 4: I think that there's not enough time for transparency. We're 389 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: going to run into lawsuits, We're gonna run into time frames, 390 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: and uh it's it's just going to be disastrous. 391 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Oh okay. 392 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 5: So what was the name of the one book called 393 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 5: Skipping towards Gomor? I think it's what it was. What So, 394 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 5: there's a book grid back in the nineteen eight once 395 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 5: it's called Skipping toward Gomor is about the cultural decline 396 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 5: of American how America's just sort of running towards Gomora. 397 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 5: Like theoretically, everything that Bron's doing right now is skipping 398 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 5: towards the political gamora. 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Uh, Jim, this is the intrigue 438 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: that and I think you're the perfect person to answer this. 439 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: So it really sounds like for the quote unquote undecided 440 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: that they are being asked to choose for lack of 441 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: a better term, And I know it doesn't it's not 442 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: the symbol, but it sort of comes out like like 443 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: a loyalty to somebody you gotta choose Bray or you 444 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: got to choose Braun. Those undecided people are going to 445 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: stick with Bray because he sort of decides their future, right, 446 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: not like Braun Rod committee assignments, you know, leadership all 447 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: that comes down to Ray, not Braun. If I push 448 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: comes to show, they're gonna stay with him. 449 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 4: You know, I ran into a member of the Senate 450 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 4: when I was over there recently, and I and I 451 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 4: gave him a hug and and and I said, you've 452 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: got to support Rod, he said, And this person said, 453 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: I'm supporting my constituents. I It's it's overwhelming that they 454 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 4: don't want this. And uh, obviously Rod's out on that limb, 455 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: and they have to. But these these legislators take their 456 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: constituents very very seriously. And in the meantime, they've got 457 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 4: to support their leader that that has inched out on 458 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: that limb. And and uh this means everything to to 459 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 4: uh the Senate to you know, follow their conscience and 460 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: and uh and vote their constituency. Because I'm here to 461 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: tell you they they have gone to great lengths in 462 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: the last month or two to find out exactly where 463 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 4: the district is in the way of opinion on this. 464 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 5: And I agree whole hardly because I don't I don't 465 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: think it's I don't. I don't think it's an either 466 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: or I do. I support the presidents with the President 467 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 5: of Senate. That's what what my constituents want, and my 468 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: constituents don't want it, then it's a very easy decision 469 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 5: to make. I don't have to choose, like, hey, my 470 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 5: people don't want it, and that's it. 471 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: Now. 472 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 5: I love this whole thing about a primary challenge. Okay, 473 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 5: you're gonna primary challenge me, not on healthcare, not on 474 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 5: property taxes, not infrastructure, not on schools, education, but you're 475 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 5: gonna primary over a congressional map. At the end of 476 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 5: the day, doesn't really affect anybody. Good luck making that case, 477 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 5: right on, mister Bagbee and tru you and Richay. 478 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: That'll be its own show around the holiday season, because 479 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: we like to showcase the best of ourselves. Uh the uh. 480 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: It is interesting though that these people think that this 481 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: is some magic bullet, and it's like you're gonna be outmanned, 482 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna be out out moneyed, you're gonna be out infrastructured. 483 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: And look, you know me, I'm all for a bunch 484 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: of these dudes and dude ads going to the political 485 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: graveyard right in terms of their careers being over and challenges. 486 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: But to me, it's utterly ridiculous. Of all these issues 487 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: you could run on, the property taxes, the utility bills, 488 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: the gas tax, the I E. 489 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: D C. 490 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: Corrupts all of that stuff. Right, You're like, no, I'm 491 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 2: all pened on redistricting. Those people are going down if 492 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: they think that's gonna be what's gonna get them across 493 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: the finish line. You're right, let's let's let's isolate that 494 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: because I've never heard that in the twelve years I've known. 495 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 5: I will say this again for linziman Uh, make a 496 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 5: note of this for the one for this one of 497 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 5: those rare moments we have Rob Kendall, Jim Marritt and Abdokimbos, 498 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 5: all all the planets in alignment with each other here. 499 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, in twenty twenty, I had a bill 500 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 4: that would trade and that would uh transfer the area 501 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 4: of Geist uh into a into a conservancy district. I 502 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: believe the Geist that the residents need a clean lake, 503 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: clean water and uh and there are a lot of 504 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 4: people that were against that. But but that the people 505 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 4: of Geist, the people of the residents that area really 506 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 4: wanted it because they didn't want to see guys die, 507 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: and and uh I stuck to it. We passed the 508 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 4: bill where others around did not want that. But you 509 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: always always think of your constituents first. 510 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: Okay, uh, this will well what they may or may 511 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: not vote by the next time we in the Senate 512 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: convene together for this award winning program, I will ask 513 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: you guys once again, as we've ended the last several programs, 514 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: do you think the Senate will ultimately vote on redistricting 515 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: and will it pass? 516 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: I say a vote yes, pass, no? Okay. 517 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: I in the beginning, if you if we had a 518 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 4: tape of it in the fall, I didn't think they're 519 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 4: going to go to special session. 520 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 3: And it didn't. 521 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 2: You're right about that, yeah, yeah, regular but. 522 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: I uh, I was surprised when when the Senate agreed 523 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 4: to go in uh next week. 524 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: But I don't I. 525 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: I think that the twenty Republicans that are against this 526 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 4: will stay against it and it will not pass the Senate. 527 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: All right, Well until next time, abill Qim shabaz, you merit, 528 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: thank you. 529 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 3: Thank you. 530 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Jim Dalton, President and CEO of Daymar. 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I'm on Twitter at Robinkendall at 570 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: Robinkendall and you can hear me weekdays nine until noon, 571 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: weekdays nine until noon the Kendall and Casey Show on 572 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: ninety three point one WIBC. So with us wrapping up 573 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: the program this week, we'll look ahead to next week 574 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: and all eyes will be on the Indiana Senate as 575 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: they are likely to take up an approved redistricting map 576 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: from the Indiana House of Representatives. What is going to happen, 577 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: nobody's sure, but we will be here to cover it 578 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: what we know at the time. On State House happenings, 579 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: that's going to do it for us this week from DULA, 580 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: keeps you Baz for Jim Merritt, I'm Rob Kendall. You've 581 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: been listening to State House happenings.