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Speaker 1: We are back. It is Colts Corner with myself, Kevin Bowen.

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Speaker 1: A happy Thanksgiving week to everybody out there. Safe travels.

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Speaker 1: We will do a Wednesday pop, but I know some

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Speaker 1: people might not have a chance to get to that,

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Speaker 1: so certainly, safe travels, and Eddie and I greatly appreciate

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Speaker 1: you and your listenership. Enjoy the time with family friends.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good Thursday Thanksgiving slate for the Colts, I'd say,

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Speaker 1: good Friday game. Kind of crazy you think Bears and

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Speaker 1: Eagles are both at eight and three at this point

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Speaker 1: in the season. Speaking eight and three, that would be

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Speaker 1: the Colts, and we will recap Colts and Chiefs here.

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Speaker 1: It is Colts Corner with myself, Kevin Bowen. Eddie Garrison

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Speaker 1: is across the way. Good morning to you, sir.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. I know you've been discussing Thanksgiving dishes, side dishes,

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Speaker 2: desserts on the Morning Show in the past week or so,

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Speaker 2: two weeks even I think I haven't really been able

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Speaker 2: to catch much of it. So what is your go

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Speaker 2: to or your favorite Thanksgiving side dish?

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Speaker 1: Well one that I have really grown to love stuffing,

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Speaker 1: I must say, man, and again I think I've shared

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Speaker 1: this before I got the palate of a third grader. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: one of the best things about having kids. I can

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Speaker 1: just eat the food they don't eat, so chicken nuggets

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Speaker 1: and mac and cheese. Sure, sure love it. But I

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Speaker 1: have come around on the Thanksgiving meal. I still find

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Speaker 1: it a bit odd that we have this obsession with turkey.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, if it was this good, why don't we

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Speaker 1: make it more during the year. But that's neither here

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Speaker 1: nor there, So yes, I will go team stuffing yourself.

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Speaker 2: My mom's why did I say, mum, moms? We were

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Speaker 2: from Briton. Yeah, I don't know. Like sweet potatoes with

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Speaker 2: marshmallows on top. Oh my gosh, Oh it sounds delicious.

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Speaker 1: Send me that recipe.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, yeah, I certainly can do that. I'll ask her.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if she's allowed to share secrets though.

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving taste maybe a little different for the Colts after

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Speaker 1: yesterday they losing overtime, they blow a double digitally with

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Speaker 1: the root of the frustration lies. Eddie, is you know

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Speaker 1: so much of what I mean. If you would have

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Speaker 1: told anybody start of the day, hey, you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: up eleven points with the ball and you, when you

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Speaker 1: think about it, Eddie, think about how the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: played out. They had a turnover, you didn't have a turnover.

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Speaker 1: They didn't hit you with like the seventy yard punk

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Speaker 1: return for a touchdown or the you know whatever. You know,

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Speaker 1: where so much of the frustration lies. Obviously, it hurts

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Speaker 1: you for a number one seed standpoint. Yes, as I

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Speaker 1: said in last week's spot, if you want away games,

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Speaker 1: this Sunday matters more than this past one. But still

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Speaker 1: I get that, you know, you you circle Kansas City

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Speaker 1: to people. I totally understand all of that. So a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to, certainly Shane Steiken, Daniel Jones, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: a'll start there a little bit overall, and it's just

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Speaker 1: a shrinking AFC picture, you know, if you look at it, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's starting to get a little tighter. And

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Speaker 2: As we break this one down. Let's start with what

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Speaker 2: you did not like since the Colts lost, and I

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Speaker 2: think the biggest concern about this one was the approach

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Speaker 2: we see him go for it on fourth and shorts

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Speaker 2: and yesterday he looked like a coach that was scared,

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Speaker 2: me because how many times this year up until you know,

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Speaker 2: it felt like they were trying these slow developing runs

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Speaker 2: that fibula injury had to you know, went into that

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Speaker 2: of you know, not moving him around in the pocket

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Speaker 2: with his legs. But overall, Shane Steike not a great

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I want to be clear, I

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Speaker 1: to the Atlanta game in overtime. Remember when he makes

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Speaker 1: But the one drive I thought you could have eight

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Speaker 1: know Romo was really aghast about that. It's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: Kansa City's offense has turned into check down, Charlie, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they can drive, you know, sixty yards

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Speaker 1: you know, has that huge strip there. I thought the

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Speaker 1: game was largely over after that, So I I felt

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Speaker 1: that the defense largely did enough. There is part of

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Speaker 1: me that it's like, if you would have told me

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Speaker 1: on Friday, Eddie Mahomes is gonna throw for the most

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Speaker 1: passing yards he has had in thirty five straight games,

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Speaker 1: mm hmm, I would have been like, really against this secondary,

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Speaker 1: are you sure.

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Speaker 2: They did it in the unconventional way? Yeah? It was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is probably a good way to put it, because.

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Speaker 2: If you look at just how they've performed like this year,

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Speaker 2: they have not attacked the middle of the field like

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Speaker 2: at all. It's been all downfield or it's been checkdowns

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Speaker 2: like that's been their offense through the passing game. And

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Speaker 2: then the Colts went full man and they're like, all right,

446
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Speaker 2: we're just gonna run it, you know, a blank ton

447
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: of you know, crossing routes and drags and picks and

448
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Speaker 2: all this other stuff. And next thing you know, you've

449
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Speaker 2: got Rashi Rice going for over one hundred yards on

450
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Speaker 2: just yards after catch.

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Speaker 1: And again the offense gave them zero complimentary help in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Zero. Can I still say I don't

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Speaker 1: love giving up a ninety yard drive with the game

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Speaker 1: on the line, Yeah, you can say that. So again

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Speaker 1: that's just a little bit of frustrating element to it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the defense, I don't want to There's

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Speaker 1: a reason why I haven't mentioned it for until half

458
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Speaker 1: hour into this podcast, you know, like I want to

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Speaker 1: be clear that, Yeah, the blame isn't that big, and

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Speaker 1: the Mahomes file, I think is different than a lot

461
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Speaker 1: of teams. And I don't expect Houston, even with CJ.

462
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Speaker 1: Strout and Nico Collins, to come in here and do

463
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Speaker 1: a lot. I think the Colts should be built to

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Speaker 1: slow that down.

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Speaker 2: Let's shift now to what you did. Like you mentioned

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Speaker 2: Laotu Latu. He had the pick early that set the

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Speaker 2: Colts up with that first and goal from like the

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Speaker 2: two yard line. I thought both linebackers were fantastic bo

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Speaker 2: Zaia Franklin and Jermain Pratt yesterday, but you single out

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Speaker 2: lat too in Zaire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just those are huge, huge, huge plays, particularly if

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Speaker 1: the result is different. You know, I know directly they

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Speaker 1: didn't turn itself into points, but Eddie called those what

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Speaker 1: seven for la tuo, I would say. And then on

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Speaker 1: the Franklin play, that's a three to seven play, so

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Speaker 1: right there, that's ten to fourteen points. However, you want

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Speaker 1: to look at that. And the Colts got on the

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Speaker 1: football too. You know, that was a bouncing football on

479
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Speaker 1: the hunt that could have gone either way there, So

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Speaker 1: you know, I know Zaire, you know mentioned or I

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Speaker 1: had a couple of misstackles early, but I thought he

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Speaker 1: made some nice plays as the game moved along. And

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Speaker 1: I believe the announcer said that was the Chief's first

484
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Speaker 1: lost fumble this season as well, so that kind of

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Speaker 1: adds to it. So it seems like it's risky to

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Speaker 1: live off those sorts of plays, But it does seem

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Speaker 1: like the Cults find those plays more than I can

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Speaker 1: recall them finding. I mean a lot too. Now has

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Speaker 1: three of them. You think about cambining them in Germany,

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Speaker 1: you know, those sorts of plays, It seems like this

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Speaker 1: team has done a great job of finding them throughout

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Speaker 1: the season. So yeah, I wanted to make sure that

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Speaker 1: I singled them at singled those out as.

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Speaker 2: Stuff I liked, and then the special teams. I think

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Speaker 2: this was the first time we've put the special teams

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Speaker 2: in this category in the season.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Brian Mason, special teams coordinator. I mean that

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Speaker 1: man is psychotic when it comes to dissecting the special teams.

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Speaker 1: I think I've told the story before, or he was

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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame prior to coming here. People in Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame raved about him, raved about him, and were you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't see it often necessarily a college special teams

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Speaker 1: coordinator immediately going to the NFL. I don't think him

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Speaker 1: in Psyche had any direct ties prior to that. I

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Speaker 1: just think the cults are creating so much hidden yardage,

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Speaker 1: so much hitting yardage in both the coverage and the

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Speaker 1: return game. Obviously you had the big plays recently kick

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Speaker 1: return rise, but Anthony Gould got a couple of nice

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Speaker 1: punt returns yesterday him back in the lineup, and I

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Speaker 1: just think their coverage units are so sound. There's so

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Speaker 1: many different guys really Goodson Ogle Tree, uh Laquon Treadwell. Obviously, Doolan,

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Speaker 1: you hope that his hamstring injuries in't anything too severe there,

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Speaker 1: and Rico Bertel Sanchez continues to be an absolute weapon

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Speaker 1: when it comes to punting the football. How big was

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Speaker 1: that Puny had out of his own end zone?

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Speaker 2: Uh huh?

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Speaker 1: You know, and the coverage you got off of that.

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Speaker 1: So again, I know it's not the most eye popping

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Speaker 1: thing necessary to talk about, but I feel like the

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Speaker 1: cultures saving or creating I'd call it five ish first

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Speaker 1: downs a game based off they're special teams. I think

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Speaker 1: you got a couple off off the return game yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and I think you had a couple, you know, limiting

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Speaker 1: or making Kansas City get an extra first down offensively

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Speaker 1: based off what you did with your coverage units. So great,

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Speaker 1: great work, great, great, great, great work.

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Speaker 2: Anything else you want to add on what you like

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Speaker 2: before we get into twitter questions.

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Speaker 1: No, I just think you need to target Alec Pierce

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Speaker 1: a few more times.

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Speaker 2: I agree. Two.

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Speaker 1: I just I think right now, if I am Shane

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Speaker 1: Seichin each week and Warren is knocking on the door

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Speaker 1: of this, but I would think to myself as a

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Speaker 1: game planner, I think it's it's coming to the point

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Speaker 1: where Taylor needs X amount of touches in the second

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Speaker 1: half and Pierce needs X amount of targets. A game.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Those players possess special traits, game breaking traits, you know. Naturally,

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Speaker 1: I think Warren's gonna find I mean, how many Warren

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Speaker 1: have your shows of five catches? I think so Like, naturally,

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Speaker 1: Warren's gonna get his, but more than Pittman, more than downs,

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Speaker 1: more than the other tight ends. I just think Taylor

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Speaker 1: in the second half and then Pierce overall is necessary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, five for forty five for Warren, five for twenty

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Speaker 2: seven and a touchdown for Pittman won for twenty six

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Speaker 2: on those two targets for Pierce and then downs two

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Speaker 2: for ten and six targets.

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Speaker 1: Moiley Cox's out snapping downs is a bit odd to me.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Just felt like, uh, Josh Doowns is only

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Speaker 2: in there on those third downs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you would think more Moiley Cox

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Speaker 1: would have been more run focused, But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's get intowitter questions starting with Isaac. Why does Shane

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Speaker 2: Stiken forget he has the best running back in the league.

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Speaker 2: Seemingly every week he is so quick to abandon the run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know this gets in the overall debate

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Speaker 1: Isaac about players over plays, And I think I've said

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Speaker 1: this throughout the podcast, but to reiterate it, I'm good

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Speaker 1: with a little wrinkle for a guy or two, you

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Speaker 1: know again dueling on third and one. Like, I think

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Speaker 1: that's what makes Shane sich and a really strong play caller.

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Speaker 1: Is dialing some of that stuff up. But when he

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Speaker 1: says throw to score, run to win and then goes

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Speaker 1: against it, and I didn't think he I thought he

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Speaker 1: let Kansas City off the hook. Prove to me you

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Speaker 1: can still stop in the fourth quarter. Prove to me

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Speaker 1: because I have a guy right here that can make

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Speaker 1: people miss. That's special.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a home run hitter.

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Speaker 1: And it's not like Daniel Jones was hot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones stats were fine at halftime, but did

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Speaker 1: you get the impression he was a hot quarterback?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I mean he had a nice methodical dinking dunk largely

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Speaker 1: first couple quarters and then if you want to play

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Speaker 1: the clock game, that could have been part of it

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Jacob. But by the way I thought Tony

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Speaker 2: Romo was when at halftime they were coming out to

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Speaker 2: start second half and he made the comment about, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Colts, this is going to be all on Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones here in the second half, because you know, you've

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Speaker 2: utilized pretty your the stuff that you had the bye

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Speaker 2: week to prepare in the first half, and now it's

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Speaker 2: all on you to figure it out. Because he was like,

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Speaker 2: he decided that you used Moley Cox in the first half,

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Speaker 2: you need to catch your pass, you used uh Older

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Speaker 2: Tree in the end zone, you used dueling on a

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Speaker 2: big catch. So like he felt like that Shane Stikeen

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Speaker 2: had used the plays that he had schemed up. Be're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you're not looking for this, and next thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was all on you know what you've put on

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Speaker 2: tape in that entire second half, and the Chiefs just

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Speaker 2: had the answers for it.

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Speaker 1: I heard that comment as well, and I thought it

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Speaker 1: was okay, well then ride your horse, yeah, or give

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Speaker 1: your horse, you know, a couple more times, you know, really,

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Speaker 1: if you want to go back to it, Eddie after

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Speaker 1: the twenty seven yard run, there's a little bit even

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Speaker 1: there where you start to go away with that as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacob's question, I'm upset about losing to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: To me, this was a prove it game? Are you

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Speaker 2: elite or not? Game? If you want to be the best.

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Speaker 2: You have to be able to beat the best, and

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Speaker 2: I just feel like the Colts squandered this opportunity. Am

607
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Speaker 2: I overreacting? Or are the Cults going to go back

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Speaker 2: to mediocrity? Now? Thanks for all you guys do.

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Speaker 1: Jacob, thanks the question. Man, I hear you. You know,

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Speaker 1: I get Eddie. If you look at the schedule, I

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Speaker 1: guess oddly your three losses are all the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame quarterbacks, right yeah, Stafford, Rogers and Homes, And I

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Speaker 1: get those quarterbacks had some different games within those, But

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at the schedule the rest of

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Speaker 1: the way, I don't know if you face any elite quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I'd say you face some slightly above average quarterbacks. If

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Speaker 1: we're really gonna tear some qbs out Stroud, Lawrence, we'll

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Speaker 1: see about San Francisco. I assume Purty, and then of

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Speaker 1: course Darnold. So you know that's where I kind of

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Speaker 1: look at it right now. You know, I'll go back

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Speaker 1: to what I said earlier. Obviously you'd rather have the

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Speaker 1: Texans win than this. I get psychologically, some people might

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Speaker 1: rather have the Kansas City win because maybe it carries

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00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: more weight when he an arrowhead and against Mahomes. But

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Speaker 1: I think when you have one A division title in

626
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: the decade, you have to start there. And maybe we

627
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: got too greedy, maybe that they got too greedy, and

628
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: kind of how the AFC South was viewed. And you know, Jacob,

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Speaker 1: you will likely have another opportunity like this. If the

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Speaker 1: playoff started today, you'd host Jacksonville as that sound right? Sure, Gosh,

631
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Speaker 1: it's crazy to think the Ravens are now back atop

632
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Speaker 1: of the AFC North. It's all coming just like that,

633
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: they are back at you know, so you know you

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Speaker 1: might have you I'd be hosting Allan and the Bills

635
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: round one. Now, I do think yesterday really hurt where

636
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: you're at from a number one seed standpoint, and so

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00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: you know that I do think is probably a frustrating

638
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: element to it.

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Speaker 2: You'd be hosting Buffalo. Buffalo is the sixth seed. Buffalo

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00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: is the seven. The top seed gets the buye. Remember

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Speaker 2: so two plays eight, right, right.

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Speaker 1: But denvers the two right, Denver at nine and two? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo denversus two of the cults of the three.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Yeah, Pittsburgh's eight. So when when Denver play Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: the Colts would play.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo so one gets the buy, two place seven?

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Speaker 2: Correct? Two would play eight?

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Speaker 1: Only seven?

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Speaker 2: Make it? I thought eight? Did? I'm an idiot?

650
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Speaker 1: One team gets the buy?

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Speaker 2: Why am I thinking there's eight?

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Speaker 1: I don't know eight. Eight would seem to be normal

653
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Speaker 1: in the NBA. I guess eight in the NBA MLB.

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Speaker 2: That's probably why.

655
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Speaker 1: But yeah it goes one by two place, seven, three place, six,

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Speaker 1: four place.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for educating me to take care. Oh, trust me.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL what they changed it up right around

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Speaker 1: the COVID year. That's why the by, I think is

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Speaker 1: so important because there's only one team that gets out

661
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Speaker 1: of that wildcard weekend there. So yeah, Jacob, again, I

662
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Speaker 1: understand where you're coming from, and I get there's not

663
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Speaker 1: tons of these opportunities that you prevent themselves. But let's

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Speaker 1: not think for a second here, there's not other massive

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Speaker 1: games the rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: It might not be Mahomes and Reed and Arrowhead, but

668
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Speaker 1: there are some huge games the rest of the year

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Speaker 1: to earn the right to potentially have another one of these.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, thanks for correcting me there, Kevin. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Chris would like to know why is it that sheen

672
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Speaker 2: ssyching does not understand certain adjustments. If you know the

673
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Speaker 2: defense is blitzing, why not bring a better counter to

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Speaker 2: beat it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess this is the other side of the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter from yesterday, Addie. If you want to look

677
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Speaker 1: at it numerically, a lot of there are some people

678
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Speaker 1: that sit there and say, hey, throwing it was the

679
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: right idea. So you know, when you have eight straight passes,

680
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Speaker 1: what do they have? Thirteen yards on those eight passes? Yeah,

681
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Speaker 1: I believe that's what it. And this gets back to

682
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones thing here is like, wait, you're telling

683
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: me on four straight drives you couldn't get one first down?

684
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Speaker 1: And we grade quarterbacks more in the fourth quarter. And

685
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Speaker 1: this falls back into our conversation we had a little

686
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Speaker 1: bit earlier of you're more worried about Shane Stiken or

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Speaker 1: you're more worried about Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: What are you?

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Speaker 1: Jones?

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00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: Stiken can control a little bit of the play calling,

691
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Speaker 2: especially since you committed two first round picks. Right, you

692
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: have made your bet. Yeah, Daniel Jones is here?

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Speaker 1: Who is he? That's what we're trying to find out.

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00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: What tier?

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Speaker 1: You know, I just got into the tiers of quarterbacks.

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00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: You've got in the final six games? Where is he at?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I mean part of it is contractually, yeah, I am

699
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Speaker 1: curious about that, but part of it is because, you know,

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Speaker 1: do you have a guy that you feel like you

701
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: can be in January football and win in January football?

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00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: With Where'd you get that hat?

703
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: I found it online? I got fed into one of

704
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: those Instagram ads.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the hat is big? Third down here. I cannot

707
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: tell you how many times I yelled at to Matty

708
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: Bowen and she probably is like, yeah, I get it.

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00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Aren't they all big? By the way, did you see

710
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's reaction?

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Speaker 2: That was great?

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Speaker 1: I loved it in the Stanford game. Yeah, and I

713
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: one thing I know, but Andrew Luck, that man hates

714
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Notre Dame hates them.

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Speaker 2: Really, He's gonna want.

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Speaker 1: Blood come Saturday night. That was awesome to watch. Got

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Speaker 1: out the Frank right.

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00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: Two games not two games left, but two Twitter questions

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Speaker 2: left Hey KB after hearing a Mooney ward describe how

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Speaker 2: he thought he might have been done with football due

721
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: to his last concussion. Is this something that pushed the

722
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner trade even more? Glad Mooney is feeling better?

723
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Speaker 2: Go Colts Never missed the pot. Appreciate all your hard work.

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Speaker 1: Justin second to none. We are thankful for all of

725
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: you here, but especially the loyal, loyal ones here. We

726
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: appreciate it. We know there's tons of podcasts to listen to,

727
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: a great podcast out there, so thank you for that. Yeah,

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00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: let's get into Mooney Ward right here, Eddie and I

729
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: want to go back to Friday. You know, he clear

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00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: concussion protocol met the media. I appreciate his transparency and

731
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: at the same time, it was a bit jarring listening

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Speaker 1: to him describe as concussion symptoms. Basically, he called the

733
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 1: first one more of a migraine. He called the second

734
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Speaker 1: one runningto ogule Tree. He said he was knocked out,

735
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: said he had dizziness for multiple weeks and puking, and

736
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Speaker 1: he thought to himself, will I ever play football again? So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are some big symptoms in a big conversation. Boy,

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Speaker 1: I got nervous when he took that hit yesterday, Eddie.

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Speaker 1: I believe he clarified after the game he's told the

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Speaker 1: guy's boots on the ground there in Kansas City that

741
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: it was more of a hit to the chest than

742
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Speaker 1: a helmet. But damn, I oh gosh, I want to

743
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Speaker 1: turn off injuries for everybody, but especially that guy. Now,

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00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: how did it impact the trade? I don't that's a

745
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: good question. You know, Buckner of course the neck injury

746
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: and played in this. By the way, Shane Sakin feels

747
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: very optimistic on buck and returning this season. I think

748
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: I was maybe a nugget lost on Friday that I

749
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Speaker 1: wanted to make sure we stuck in here.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: As far as Ward is concerned, he said he really

752
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: didn't start feeling better. So the bye, well, the bye

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00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: was after the Gardener trade.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you make such a massive

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Speaker 1: franchise altering move just because of injury or health statuses

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00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: on the forest Buckner and Moody Ward like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean that is a I mean, those are some

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00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: you better believe in the player. You better believe in

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the player being Gardener all that. By

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00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: the way, saus Gardner doesn't strike me as a guy

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Speaker 1: that wants to tackle.

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Speaker 2: That is the one of the that was one of

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00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: the problems with him in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not paying him to tackle. I'm just so

767
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: used to Colts corners being good tacklers, so watching him

768
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: try and tackle is a little bit different for me.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I I that was. That was wild to

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Speaker 1: frankly listen to Moody war describe all of that there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was pretty uh eye opening because

772
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Speaker 2: when you look around the league. I mean the guy

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Speaker 2: that I immediately thought of was Chris Olave with New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Like the guy had like four concussions and like or

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Speaker 2: five concussions in the previous two seasons combined, And it's

776
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Speaker 2: just like, WHOA you think that at times about Ryan Kelly,

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00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: you know lately with all the ones he's gonna pile.

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Speaker 1: Up any concerned Houston ten days off, Colt Stephen's just

779
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: played ninety snaps.

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00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: I hope not. You got time to rest between Colts

781
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: go walk.

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00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: Through Wednesday, by the way, they you know, we've seen

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Speaker 1: them understriking. I think a lot of teams to do

784
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: this kind of adopt a little bit of the walk

785
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: through mindset late in the season on a Wednesday. So

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Speaker 1: they'll go walk through Wednesday early practice, Thanksgiven Thursday as

787
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Speaker 1: they return home. Weirdly, it's their only home game in

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00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: like a seven week stretch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, uh, Tampa Bay's been doing that for

790
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Speaker 2: the last month just because of how depleted they've been.

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00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: I know San Francisco's done the same for the last

792
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks as well, because they've had so many injuries.

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Speaker 2: But they're starting to get healthier. Final Twitter questions from Benji.

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00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: Starting to think Jim Bob Cooter would make a great

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00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: head coach if the Colts keep winning, he might get

796
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: a shot. How would you rate his chances and or potential. Secondly,

797
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: my brother in law, Patrick is now a regular listener

798
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: of the podcast. Will you give him a shout out? Yes, Benji,

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Speaker 2: thank you for listening. Patrick. What took you so long?

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Speaker 1: Patrick, Let's go. Thank you very much for listening. Benji.

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00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: As always as loyal as they come, we appreciate that.

802
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Brany, dude, brainy dude. I think Peyton would

803
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: sign off on it. I think Matthew Stafford probably sign

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00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: off on it. You know, I've said this before about

805
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: the whole non play caller you know, hiring non play

806
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: caller as a head coach. You can point the times

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00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: it's worked, you can point the times that it hasn't worked,

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00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, with Sirianni. I remember saying this. I do

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Speaker 1: think when Sirianni took the job in Philly, I did think, okay,

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00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: the whole le of men. I do feel like Sirianni

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Speaker 1: has that attribute necessarily to him. Jim Bob, it's a

812
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Speaker 1: little bit more of an unsure just based off his personality.

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Speaker 1: And again, I mean, I'm not gonna pretend to know

814
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Speaker 1: the dude super super well, but I do think that's

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Speaker 1: an important quality that if I were making highers, I

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00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: would have hesitancy about non play callers. What's his name

817
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: in Tennessee? Uh, you know Callahan. It kind of just

818
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: fell into that same boat.

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Speaker 2: There a lot of issues with Callahan, right.

820
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Speaker 1: And some of these guys work out, you know. I

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Speaker 1: am curious about Lou and a Roumo.

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Speaker 2: Do we see him?

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Speaker 1: Does he fall back into the coaching cycle? You know,

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Speaker 1: I know his name has been thrown around with New York.

825
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Speaker 1: I think he was with New York for a year.

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00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: Does that name get thrown around a little bit there?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess where I saw Jim Bob's name

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Speaker 1: was mentioned, I think on one of those coaching lists.

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Speaker 1: So about time for those things to uh get back

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Speaker 1: underway with the closest promote Alex Tanney. That what they

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Speaker 1: would do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Reggie Wayne, would they vote him?

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00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: Tony Soprano Jr. Would you promote him?

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00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Those are options. Uh, Mike Kafka gonna do it

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Speaker 2: all in New York. Now he's going to be the

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Speaker 2: head coach O C and DC.

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Speaker 1: He did he fire Bowen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They fired Bowen. I don't know if that Yeah,

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Speaker 2: by the way, would that be him firing Shan Bowen

840
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: or would that be Joe Sheane's that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: All right, you got anything else?

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00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 2: I've got nothing. Have a great Thanksgiving, all.

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00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: Right, Colts Texans. Coming up this week, we will have

844
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: your coverage one on seven five of the Fan again

845
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: probably short pod will come back with on Wednesday, but yes,

846
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: for those that are not going to be tuning in

847
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: at our second part of the week, save travel. So everybody,

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Speaker 1: have a great, great Thanksgiving, enjoy the awesome slate coming

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00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: up Thursday and Friday. We'll talk to you next. It

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Speaker 1: is Colt's Corner with Kevin Bowen signing off.