1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Line from vau Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: It was about six years ago today that I decided 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: I'm going to give up my businesses, sell them all, 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: run for office, run through the United States Senate. Here 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: I am sitting in front of you, six years later saying, 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: who the do you think you were for doing that? 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: It is a total disgrace what he did to this country. 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: And if my Democratic colleagues are standing there defending you, 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: I hope the voters the United States of America watched 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: the clips of every one of you doting on a 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 2: guy who was more interested in being a celebrity than 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: saving American people. 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: So this went well up. Oh that Senator Bernie Moreno 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: of Ohio going at Anthony Fauci, who was called to testify, 16 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: write subpoena to testify in front of committee chaired by 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 3: by Rand Paul, and from Moreno asked you turn around 18 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: to the people behind you, all those doctors, all these 19 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: people who got dismissed and told they couldn't speak and 20 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: weren't allowed to say this, and weren't allowed to do that, 21 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: and oh they got attacked for this, and they got 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: ashamed and careers ruined. Would you apologize to them? Well, 23 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: you got anything to say to them? And then of 24 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: course he we edited that up pretty well for you, 25 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, guys, a pleasure to be 26 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: with you, man, oh man, this hearing, and we said 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: this was possible, so we kind of called it that 28 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: Fauci took the fifth. Fauci took the Now there is 29 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: a question as to whether or not he can because 30 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: he'd already been pardoned. So I would argue that, yes, 31 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: he's able to do this. I could, however, be wrong 32 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: about whether or not there's a difference between the courtroom 33 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: and what you're doing in front of a congressional hearing. 34 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: This was the Center Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, 35 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: and whether or not he is, in the words of 36 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: Center Ran Paul engaging an obstruction of investigation. And for 37 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: those in the chatroom as we live stream on YouTube 38 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: and Rumble and Twitter and Facebook, it was one hundred 39 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: and eleven times. I believe producer land and kept count 40 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: he took off his shoes and everything to make that happen. 41 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: Did I say hello, I'm Tony Katz to show as 42 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: Tony kats today. Look for us on YouTube and rumble, 43 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Twitter, Tony Katz and of course Facebook, Tony 44 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: Katz Radio. This is how it started, started with Senator 45 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: Ran Paul just going right at it, right at it 46 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: to Anthony Fauci. Of course, this is about COVID and 47 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: the lies told and the release of the information from 48 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: his from his private diary and everything. All this was submitted. 49 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: He knew he was lying to us in America. We 50 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: the people repeatedly did it anyway, origins of COVID, mass conversations, 51 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: a litany of things. While he was so impressed with 52 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: himself all the times he can be on television lying 53 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: about shutting down schools. He did it. He did all 54 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: of it. He is the one who lied repeatedly. And 55 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: this is how Senator Paul, and this is how he 56 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: started the conversation. 57 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: Theory that the virus arose naturally, while privately he was 58 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: well aware of a mountain of evidence suggesting the virus 59 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: originated in the lab. 60 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 5: The American people deserve answers. 61 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: The American people deserve to know why dangerous research was 62 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: funded by NIAID in its hotalitarian country in a lab 63 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: that lacked acceptable safety standards. The decision to fund dangerous 64 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: gain a function research in Wuhan, China, will likely go 65 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 4: down in history as perhaps one of the worst public 66 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: health decisions. Frankly, the American people deserve an apology. I 67 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: hope today doctor Fauci will come clean. Admit it was 68 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: a mistake to fund dangerous research in China, Admit that 69 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: the risk of this dangerous research exceeded any possible benefits. 70 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: Ask forgiveness, and pledge to help our government devise safeguards so. 71 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 5: A man made emidemic never happens again. 72 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: Instead of an apology, you have for years avoided responsibility 73 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: regarding the lockdowns. 74 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 5: You argue that you did not personally. 75 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: Issue every lockdown order, close every school, or impose every mandate, 76 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: but officials across the country invoked your authority to justify 77 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: these decisions, and you presented your recommendations not as judgments 78 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: open to debate, but as dictates of science itself. Your 79 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: own words demonstrate that you understood the influence you exercised. 80 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: On March fourteenth, twenty twenty, you wrote that the task 81 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: Force recommendations were driven. 82 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 5: By me, yourself, deb and CDC. 83 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: The next day you wrote that you had convinced Mayor 84 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: Bill Deblasio to close the New York City schools, so 85 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 4: you were involved. That same night, Governor Gavin Newsom's chief 86 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: of staff told you that the governor had decided to 87 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: close California schools, bars, and restaurants after watching you on television. Presidents, governors, mayors, 88 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: school boards, corporations, and congress all bare responsibility for the 89 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: decisions they made. The COVID lockdown, however, could never have 90 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: been inflicted without you aiding and abetting the crime. Children 91 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 4: lost years of education, Small businesses built over a lifetime disappeared. 92 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: Patients delayed cancer screenings and other medical care. Families were 93 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: separated from dying relatives. Workers were ordered to accept a 94 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: medical procedure or lose their jobs. Worship, assembly, employment, education, 95 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: and travel were restricted. 96 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 5: In the name of science. 97 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: While you did not impose every restriction, you used your 98 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: public authority to justify them. While you concluded publicly that 99 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: COVID occurred naturally, your private record tells a different story. 100 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: In early twenty twenty, your handpicked virologists warned that the virus. 101 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: Appeared to have been manipulated in the lab. 102 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: In a conference call concerning the origin of the virus, 103 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: all but to the participants believed deliberate insertion was possible. 104 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 5: Your concern was not merely theoretical. 105 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: That same week, you let an urge effort to determine 106 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: whether your own agency had funded the research related to 107 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: these experiments that were now under suspicion. 108 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 5: Hours later, your assistant. 109 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: Reported that the wu want experiments had indeed been reviewed 110 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: and approved by the NIH. Those were not the actions 111 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: of officials who believe that a research related to origin 112 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: was an absurd conspiracy theory. They were the actions of 113 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: officials urgently trying to determine whether their agency funding was 114 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: connected to the research under discussion. 115 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: Now he's four minutes in, three minutes in. He's not screaming, 116 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: he's not yelling. He is just laying it out in totality, 117 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 3: this is what you did. You lied. Now. I want 118 00:07:53,800 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: that peace right there to be held in your head 119 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: when people bring up Trump was the president, Why didn't 120 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: Trump do this? Why did' Trump do that? If you 121 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: are looking to alleged experts who are not sharing with 122 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: you the full story, how possibly could you have the 123 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: complete information. I am one of the people who wholeheartedly 124 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: agrees wholeheartedly agrees that one of the worst things we 125 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: did in the country is we turned over power of 126 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: the nation, control of the nation to unelected doctors, to 127 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: these health professionals who did not have the whole of 128 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: the country's interest in heart because they don't play that way. 129 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: They think, of one thing, here's what the science tells us. 130 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 3: But we didn't even get that. What we got were 131 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 3: ideological answers, not medical answers, and unwillingness to engage all 132 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 3: of the data. And then we of course know that 133 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: the data we got wasn't complete. So if I have 134 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: President Trump president of the United States, the buck stops 135 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: there and all that jazz getting incomplete data, false data lies. 136 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: Can I ask, why can't we say, of the liar, 137 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: look what you did. Why can't we do that? Why 138 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: can't we say that? Shouldn't we say that? The answer is, 139 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: of course we should, in every single way we should. 140 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: Donald Trump the president. Yes, why in the world would 141 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 3: anybody support a man like Anthony Fauci knowing clearly without 142 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: debate that he lied. This is part one of the argument. Now, 143 00:09:54,760 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 3: part two of the argument has to go to media, 144 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: which has now been seen time and again not to 145 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: be engaged in journalism. Don't ask for respect. You're not journalists. 146 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: You never looked into Russia, Russia, Russia. You just believed 147 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: Adam Schiff. You never looked into Joe Biden's mental decline. 148 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: You just believe Krin John Pierre. You never looked into COVID. 149 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: You never asked a question, You never talked to the 150 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: other doctors. You just believed Anthony Fauci and use that 151 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: as cover to be lazy because it was never about 152 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: journalism and it was always about narrative. America has every 153 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: right to be angry, disgusted, to want someone's head, but 154 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: this is the justices. We don't do that here. You 155 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: want to engage and just outright violence. You got to 156 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: be a member of the Democratic Socialists of Antifa, of 157 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: the left. What Senator Ran Paul is laying out here 158 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: is clear is concise is focused deckted. 159 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 6: To the pandemic. 160 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 5: You could not hide that your agency had funded. 161 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: The Wuhan research, or your long history of defending gain 162 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: to function research. The only alternative left was to argue 163 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: that COVID nineteen did not originate in the Wuhan lab. 164 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 4: You were not a detached observer. You had an institutional 165 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 4: interest in the public believing that federally funded research had 166 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: nothing to do with the band. It was a conflict 167 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: of interest. From the very beginning, the authors of the 168 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: Proximal Origin of SARS COVID two privately had serious doubts 169 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: about a natural origin. Within days, though, they flipped and 170 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: they all wrote in Proximal Origin that the virus was 171 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 4: almost certainly not a laboratory construct. That paper was then 172 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: used by the government and the media and you to 173 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: discredit Americans who were asking the same questions that you 174 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: and the authors were asking yourselves privately. You even cited 175 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: Proximal Origin from the White House podium. You held it 176 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 4: out as evidence that the virus could not have been engineered, 177 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 4: But you didn't disclose your role and the discussions that 178 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: preceded the writing of the paper. You did not disclose 179 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: the author's original concerns. You did not concern You did 180 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: not reveal that you had been part of the paper, 181 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: that you had read and offered editorial comments on the 182 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: paper before it was published, before you began using it 183 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: as evidence that it couldn't have originated in the lab. 184 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 4: You did not disclose that you had immediately investigated yourself 185 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: whether NIAID funding might be connected to the research. 186 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 5: You did not tell the American people the full story. 187 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: Douly released private messages indicate that the doubts with the 188 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 4: authors and others didn't disappear after the publication. So while 189 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: this was being waived at the White House to show 190 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 4: that it couldn't come from the lab, the authors were 191 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: still privately continuing to sign a meaningful probability to a 192 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: laboratory origin. 193 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 5: One thing in public and another in private. 194 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: Some of the same scientists discussed avoiding email and carefully 195 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: managing communications that might eventually be obtained under the Freedom 196 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: of Information Act. 197 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: The pattern is straightforward. 198 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 5: Privately, there was. 199 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 4: Alarm and then an immediate inquiry to see if NIAID's 200 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: possible exposure to funding, then a rapid public declaration. 201 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: Of certainty, continued private doubt, and then years. 202 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: Of resistance disclosure. 203 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: The question is why, and the only logical answer is 204 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: that your primary concern was avoiding culpability. Your primary concern 205 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: was hiding the fact that you had approved the funding 206 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 4: for this dangerous research. Your support of gata function research 207 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: is extensive and long standing. In twenty eleven, your agency 208 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: funded ron Fucier's laboratory when it mutated the Avian flu 209 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: until it could spread through the air between mammals. This 210 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 4: was the tipping point. This is when others became worried. 211 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: You funded this, You advocated for this. The federal government's 212 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: own Biosecurity Board, though recommended withholding the details of these 213 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 4: experiments because of the danger of the research post. People 214 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: were concerned that publishing it was publishing a roadmap to 215 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: creating bioweapons around the world. But you sided with the 216 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: gain of function scientist Fucia and argued that the benefits 217 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: of publishing the research far outweighed the risks. 218 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: Gain of function research is how you manipulate a virus 219 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: to be more well, you could argue more lethal. But 220 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: what it's its purpose is how does this virus work? 221 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: And how can we maneuver and manipulate it? And yes, 222 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: the United States funded the Wuhan Virology lab through a 223 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: group called EcoHealth Alliance and man by name of it, 224 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: Peter Dasik das Zak, that happened. We have this data, 225 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: We know this to be factual. This is worthy discussion. 226 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: Never mind, should we be funding gain of function research 227 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: as a whole? Why would anybody think it's okay to 228 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: fund gain of function research in China? How could anyone 229 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: think this okay? The wet market is about certain parts 230 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: of China culture. And all this came from a bat 231 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: in a wet market. I don't know how how else 232 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: would I describe what a wet market is, Think of 233 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: it as a market where people buy food. That there 234 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: was no way this was person a person. This came 235 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: from the animal kingdom. They knew early on that wasn't 236 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: the case. We're talking about January through March of twenty twenty, 237 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: yet they continue to push that lie. So we have 238 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: an other subject that's worthy of discussion here. And no 239 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: matter how many people want to scream and yell that 240 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: we shouldn't be talking about that, that this is old news, 241 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: why does this any of this matter? We're told that 242 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: we've got a problem having faith in our institutions. Well, 243 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: no crap, how could you have faith in an institution 244 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: that lies. That's what Anthony Fauci did, and that's what 245 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: the NIH did, and that's what the CDC did. Because 246 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: it's all connected. And Anthony Fauci, upon hearing this, the 247 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: data from his his diaries and other papers, clearly showing 248 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: the lies. He then took to the microphone and said, 249 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: completing the fifth, which is strange because he's already gotten 250 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: a pardon, which well, that pardon shouldn't be. I've got 251 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: a lot more to get to, including major Mike lyons 252 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: what's going on in Iran as they try to hit 253 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: US bases in Jordan? On Tony Katz, this is Tony 254 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: Kats Today. Click update on a story about a Wisconsin brewery. 255 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: There was a guy who owns a brewery in Wisconsin 256 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 3: and this is the Minoqua Brewing Company and the owner there, remember, 257 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: they used to spread these rumors and they still will. 258 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: We haven't seen Trump for three days, always sick, alw 259 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 3: he's dead. They did that one about six months ago. 260 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: Maybe it was a little bit longer. Tony Katz, It's me, 261 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: by the way, Tony Kats today. An absolute pleasure to 262 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: be with you. And people would would push these rumors 263 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: that Trump was sick or Trump was dead, they haven't 264 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: seen him for three days. And the guy who owns 265 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: this brewery, Kirk Bengstad, he had put out a promotion 266 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: that said free beer when Trump dies, stylin absolutely good 267 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: good work. You are that's the kind of thing we 268 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: want in America. This was one of the things. This 269 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: is the stuff you know that the people of the 270 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: death wish. It's horrifyingly gross. And now they've had their 271 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: permit to operate in the state revoked by state officials. 272 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: This guy is going to fight it. They took away 273 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: his license. The Wisconsin Division of Alcohol Beverage of Alcohol 274 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: Beverages Sorry, It's dedicated to the fair and consistent enforcement 275 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: of alcohol regulations in Wisconsin. The Division is required to 276 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: follow and implement state law, including ensuring permit holders and 277 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: licensees follow all applicable laws and regulations. We can confirm 278 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: that the Department of Revenue has issued a notice of a 279 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: brewer's permit revocation for two Monoco Brewing Company locations and 280 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: notice of an Alcohol Beverage Warehouse permit revocation for one location. 281 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: The business has until August fourth to appeal and can 282 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: operate during the appeal. Prop says, should the business decide 283 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: to appeal, the next step would be to appeal to Secuary. 284 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: To the test Secuary Department of Revenue, who will assign 285 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: the appeal and onward and upwork. I don't actually know 286 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: if a statement as disgusting as the owners leads to 287 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: a revocation. It could have something to do with the 288 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: fact that licensing has certain requirements and this is a violation. 289 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: There's going to be an appeal. It's gonna be a 290 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: story to watch. Major Mikelion's going to be which that's 291 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: with us. Next on Tony Katz. So we're told by 292 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: the President of the United States that Iran wants to 293 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: make a deal. They always want to make a deal. 294 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 3: You can never ever count them out. They want to 295 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: make a deal. As the President once said it was 296 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 3: in a post on Twitter years ago. Iran never won 297 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 3: a war, never lost a negotiation. This is who they are. 298 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, great to be with you. 299 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: For days. We have not engaged at a bombing raid 300 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: on Iran. They're asking us not to. They're begging to 301 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: make a deal. We're talking at the highest levels. It 302 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: was Ambassador to the UN Mike Waltz saying things are 303 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: going well. And then last night it was Sentcom that 304 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: announced that the Iranian regime lobbed missiles at a US 305 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: base at five forty five pm Eastern time. The Islamic 306 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: Revolutionary Guard Core Forces launched multiple ballistic missiles from Iran 307 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: in an attempted surprise attack on US forces based in 308 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: the Middle East. All Iranian missiles were successfully intercepted. US 309 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: forces remained vigilant and at a high state of readiness. 310 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how anything is a surprise from the 311 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: Iranians at this moment. Major Mike Lyons joined US right 312 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: now retired United States Army military analyst West point Man. 313 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: Let's start with the basic serp. What is it that 314 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: the Iranians attempted to do yesterday evening? I think they 315 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 3: sent a. 316 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 6: Couple of messages. 317 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 7: They sent The first one was that they still have 318 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 7: capability in order to fire a few missiles at you know, 319 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 7: not at scale, but a few missiles at precise targets. 320 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 7: I mean, getting likely intel from China or from Russia 321 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 7: or somebody else. I think that they're getting held from somebody. 322 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 7: And they did it during the funeral for Lindsey Graham, 323 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 7: which again sends another message to the President. The United 324 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 7: States did not decide to attack Iran when they were 325 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 7: having their funeral for coomin A. 326 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 6: So you know, it just. 327 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 7: Shows you the people that we're dealing with, and you know, 328 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 7: we still you know, reading Instue Study of War this 329 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 7: morning was interesting because they brought up the different factions 330 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 7: that are existing in Iran right now, and there are. 331 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 6: Factions there that want to make a deal with the US. 332 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 7: They don't want to get bombed into submission, and they're 333 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 7: trying to do something. But the IRGC and some of 334 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 7: the hardliners still have decentralized that those military assets, and 335 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 7: they still have capability that can reach out and strike Jordan, 336 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 7: Saudi Arabia, Kuwi and those Gulf states that are there and. 337 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 6: Potentially target US assets in the region. 338 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: So as we look at what they did this bombing, 339 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 3: and you talk about capability, and I agree with you, 340 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: that is something to note that they still have the missiles, 341 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: but in doing so they let us know that they can. 342 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: Is that as a matter of strategy, one doesn't do 343 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: something unless they have to do it. So there's a 344 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: question of purpose here. Was the purpose here to show 345 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: strength and force to others within the Iranian leadership or 346 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: was this a lashing out They're working on last gasp. 347 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 3: If they can't get the other nations around them to 348 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: push back against the United States, they have nothing and 349 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: this is their only way. They know to do it. 350 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is kind of a win by not losing, right, 351 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 7: They're trying to run the clock out. They're trying to 352 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 7: spike the price of oil again, it was up unfortunately 353 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 7: in the past few days, and they think if they 354 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 7: can put this kind of military pressure on the president 355 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 7: and if one of those missiles got through and we 356 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 7: had casualties. Again, we're seeing reports of casualty rates that 357 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 7: are higher than have been reported before. A Foyer report 358 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 7: made that change recently, and so, you know, again, Ron 359 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 7: is just trying to survive. I you know again, there's 360 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 7: other reports that show that it's working. At the blockade, 361 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 7: plus the sanctions, plus the military strikes are working. 362 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 6: It's just a matter of time. 363 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 7: If I'd like to see us go back to fourteen 364 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 7: fifteen straight days of continuous military strikes, taking out all 365 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 7: we can and then and then deciding we're going to talk, 366 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 7: then not just get taking a phone call in the. 367 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 6: Middle of it saying you know, we want to make 368 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 6: a deal. 369 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 7: I don't think any deal happens until we decide that 370 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 7: we're going to make a deal. 371 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired in the United States 372 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: Army military analyst Axios in their reporting that that came 373 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: out yesterday or was it this morning, saying that the 374 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: blockade is working very well, that there is talk that 375 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: the factions, the terrorist factions has Blahamas, the IERGC itself 376 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: are not getting paid, payments have been reduced and that 377 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: this is working and to keep that up the pressure. 378 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: And one could argue, if that's what's working, you don't 379 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 3: actually need the bombings. So now I take it and 380 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: turn it the other way. Does this show that we 381 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: need the bombings or can the bombings be more strategic 382 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: to where the IRGC is located as opposed to what 383 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: we've been doing in the coastal areas. 384 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 7: You know, I think that the military assets accelerate that 385 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 7: process of getting them to the table, and they're just 386 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 7: human nature is involved with that. So yeah, I think 387 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 7: we do need to continuous go after them, and if anything, 388 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 7: if we can use the military to do nothing more 389 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 7: than tease out where some of those mobile launch units are. 390 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 7: For example, right, I think that we know that they 391 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 7: don't have many of them left, and we know that 392 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 7: they have capability to fire and SCOO to kind of shoot, 393 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 7: move communicate, and that still is what those. 394 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 6: Military chargets would be. 395 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 7: So I still believe that we don't declare any kind 396 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 7: of ceasefire until we're confident that there's really virtually a 397 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 7: minimal threat, almost no threat whatsoever to the regional countries 398 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 7: that are there, and make sure that they can't do 399 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 7: anything more. 400 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 3: We talk about these missiles. You mentioned the idea of 401 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: a deal. I'm not somebody who believes the deal can 402 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: be made. There is no one to make a deal with. 403 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: Your point is that there are still factions that can 404 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 3: make a deal, that want to make a deal, but 405 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: we have these other factions that want to keep fighting. 406 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: How does one get the IRGC under control the Islamic 407 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 3: Revolutionary Guard core if in any way other than destroying them, 408 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: And can that be done from the air? 409 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I hadn't seen it historically, We've never done 410 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 7: something like this just from the air. And we're not 411 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 7: sending two hundred thousand ground troops to Tehran anytime soon. 412 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 7: But we might not get regime total regime change. But 413 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 7: we've talked about before this idea of regime compliance. What 414 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 7: we have in Venezuela, for example, it is difficult to 415 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 7: say forty seven years there are well in the fabric 416 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 7: and the dye in the communities of everything going on 417 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 7: in Iran right now. But I think the Iranians are 418 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 7: you know, there's other wildcard factors that play here. The 419 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 7: Turks could factor in. The Kurds. We still haven't talked 420 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 7: about them, their capability if they decide to invade certain 421 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 7: portions of the south. Let's say they decide to pick 422 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 7: up a military mission in southern in the southern part 423 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 7: of Iran and help with the United States as a 424 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 7: ground force. 425 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 6: That would go a long way as well. So that 426 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 6: threatens it. 427 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 7: That's there, And then we also haven't talked about the Ukrainians. 428 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 7: I think that no one you know that we've opened 429 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 7: up another front to the north. The fact that the 430 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 7: Ukrainians can fire missiles at Russian assets a thousand kilometers 431 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 7: away in the Caspian Sea and hit Iranian ships. That 432 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 7: is another really bad signal if you're the Iranians. So 433 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 7: now you've got enemies on three sides. In the south 434 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 7: with the United States, you have them do eastern Israel, 435 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 7: and now you have them to the north with Ukraine. 436 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 7: If they're going to start shooting at Iranian vessels in 437 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 7: the Caspian Sea, So a lot of pressure being still 438 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 7: being put on them militarily. 439 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: The Ukraine conversation, the turn there is absolutely amazing. We've 440 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 3: discussed this in depth. With their ability to make drones, 441 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: President Trump seeing a value in them, They've proven that 442 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: Zelenski has proven that he can learn and that he 443 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: can say listen, I'm okay with being the tip of 444 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: the spear here. All I'm asking is for some help 445 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: so we can continue this fight against this aggressor. It's 446 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: learning from Netanyahu, it's learning from the Israelis. They have 447 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: approached the terrorists and the Islamis throughout the Middle East. 448 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: But let's go over three things that you just discussed. 449 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: Let's start with the idea of Ukraine hitting from the north. 450 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 3: They want in this so they can further build their 451 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: ties closer to the United States. They're taking advantage of 452 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: an opportunity, and I don't blame them. It's also helpful 453 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 3: to us. How much have the Russians been helping the 454 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: Iranians throughout all this and can will will it end? 455 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: Can the Russians afford to have end? 456 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 7: I think I think it's been ministerial support, as I've 457 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 7: as I understand, as I've researched and talked to folks 458 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 7: and looked at it. What I mean by that is 459 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 7: potentially intel. Some of the satellite shots maybe in that regard. 460 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 7: But the bottom line is all the Russian equipment that 461 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 7: the Uranians bought has been destroyed. 462 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 6: Most of it's been destroyed. The air defense system's destroyed. 463 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 7: You're seeing reports, Reuters is reporting this morning that the 464 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 7: Chinese are bringing hundreds of manpads back into into Iran. 465 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 7: They're coming over land somehow. The Chinese are denying it. 466 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 7: But this was a deal that was made a few 467 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 7: months ago, and that was this was part of that 468 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 7: that OpEd I had wrote that we can't let China 469 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 7: in the game here. The next MoU has got to 470 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 7: be restrictive about what the Uranians can do about rebuilding 471 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 7: their military and so so. Again, while the Russians providing 472 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 7: ministerial support, that's about it. They're got. They've got their 473 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 7: hands full trying to defend the navy. Again, think about 474 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 7: the Caspian Sea. There's never been a NATO vehicle inside 475 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 7: of that. The Caspian Sea a landlocked sea that borders 476 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 7: around Kazakhstan, Russia, all those other countries there. Russia thought 477 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 7: it was a complete safe have and they could just 478 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 7: sit there and lob missiles into Ukraine, use it as 479 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 7: a way to protect crimea and stuff that's over. He 480 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 7: who would have thought five years ago that Ukrainians would 481 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 7: have developed the capability to shoot missiles over a thousand 482 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 7: kilometers and hit naval assets of Russia in the Caspian Sea. 483 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: Not me talking to Major Mike Lions, retired United States 484 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: Army military analyst, just to give a look here of 485 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: the Caspian Sea. This is an area where you've got 486 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: Ukraine right there. Caspian Sea is a far ways away, sir. 487 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: But the Caspian Sea Iran is to the south. That 488 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: is a long way away to be able to make 489 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: a hit as you're discussing. But Ukraine is able to 490 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: make that happen now. 491 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, and and hit. 492 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 7: So looking at the Iranians sending Shahi drones and sending 493 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 7: some of their technology into Russia, I'm sure Russia is 494 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 7: still pressuring them to do that. There those ships are 495 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 7: now vulnerable and so in some ways Lensky comes to 496 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 7: d C meets with bb Netanyahu. You saw that they 497 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 7: had a little bit of a of a glance at 498 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 7: each other, and now you know, as far as I'm concerned, 499 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 7: Ukraine has joined this fight. 500 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 3: It was it wasn't it wasn't an aggressive glance. It 501 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: was it was a conversation. 502 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, unspoken words about to combat. You know, leaders here, 503 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 7: I look Zelenski for where it started, for where he 504 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 7: is now is turning out, it's going to go down 505 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 7: history and as saving that country and getting them he 506 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 7: just fired as defense minister, ready to fire. Just he's 507 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 7: starting to try to put the people around him now 508 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 7: that you really trust to put a deal together. But 509 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 7: and I and again I wouldn't have never said this 510 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 7: in the past, but I'll say it now. I'm more 511 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 7: than happy to put Ukraine into NATO because they will 512 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 7: be leading the ED clearly the edge of the spear, 513 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 7: not only just on the defense side of things, but 514 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 7: just the way they innovate in their technology alone. Look, 515 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 7: they've got licenses now to make patriots, right, so when 516 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 7: they get the rare rest minerals, they'll have patriots up 517 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 7: and running in six months in that country and we 518 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 7: won't have to sell them a single patriot missile. 519 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. I hate having to disagree with you publicly, but man, 520 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: do I not want Ukraine in NATO at all. We're 521 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: going to save that conversation for another day. I only 522 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: have about a minute, so I do have a question 523 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: about the Kurds and will they need to be armed, 524 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: but I'm going to hold that for another day as well. 525 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: I want to get into the missiles that were shot 526 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: and the idea of surprise was the United States really 527 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: caught off guard by missiles heading their way towards Jordan, 528 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: towards military bases and American assets, whether it's in Jordan 529 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: or other parts of the Middle East. 530 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 7: No, the fact of the matter is they are intercepted. 531 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 7: If none of them were intercepted, then we'd be caught 532 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 7: off guard. The question is they are coming from higher 533 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 7: altitudes and it's more difficult to shoot out missiles that 534 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 7: are coming at the hyperstonic speeds from different altitudes, and 535 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 7: that's normally how these attacks go. They come in ways 536 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 7: with drones and different things. So no, but if we 537 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 7: were caught off guard, some of those missiles would have gottenrough. 538 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 7: It would have been a disaster. But again, they're staying on 539 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 7: their toes and they're making sure that their defense platforms 540 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 7: are working there. 541 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army military analyst. I 542 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: appreciate you taking the time to be with us. We 543 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: got a lot more show to get to keep it here. 544 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today. 545 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 8: It's not an easy job, but it is because there's 546 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 8: so much at stake in our country. But these public 547 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 8: servants do it because they. 548 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: Are in the arena. 549 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 8: I just want to end by just reading a portion 550 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 8: of this because I think it's important as we're thinking 551 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 8: about how to be able to treat public servants through 552 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 8: this country, to think through this, and in the words 553 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 8: of Teddy Roosevelt, saying, it's not the critic who counts. 554 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 8: Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, 555 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 8: or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. 556 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 8: The credit belongs to the man who is actually in 557 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 8: the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat 558 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 8: and blood, who try valiantly, who errors, becomes short again 559 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 8: and again, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who 560 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 8: at the best knows in the end the triumphs of 561 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 8: high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, 562 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 8: at least he fails while daring greatly. 563 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: What about the man in the arena who lies that's 564 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: Senator Andy Kim, Democrat from New Jersey, praising Anthony Fauci. 565 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: What about the man who lies. Anthony Fauci is the 566 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: man in the arena. He's got the blood and sweat. 567 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: It's other people's blood. That's the argument. Outorship is weird. 568 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: All political worship is weird. Tony kas Tony Kax today, 569 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 3: good to be with you. What about all the other 570 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: doctors esteemed and lauded and with plenty of credentials, who said, 571 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: I don't see it that way. Look at this data, 572 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: and look at that data, and look at the other data, 573 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: and how people like yourself, Senator dismissed them. They weren't 574 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 3: allowed to seat at the table, they weren't allowed into 575 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: the arena. That's the story. We are not praising a 576 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: man who did everything he could and got it wrong. 577 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: That's not the argument here. Or we're not discrediting a 578 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: man who did everything he could and got it wrong. 579 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 3: We're talking about a man who did not do everything 580 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: he could because he did not relay the totality of 581 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: the story. That is not someone worthy of our praise. 582 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 3: We're not talking about somebody who, once they got the data, 583 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: said I was wrong. We have new data, and here's 584 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: how we should proceed. He never said he was wrong, 585 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: He never admitted to the new data. He said he 586 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: was doing one thing while he was doing another thing. 587 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 3: No rational and praises that man. No rational person wants 588 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: their sons to grow up to be that kind of man. 589 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: The argument you make, Senator Kim falls flat. It is nonexistent. 590 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 3: It is another of a great number of gas lightings 591 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: that based on political party people want to push on America. 592 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: Can we stop damage was done? Let us assess the damage, 593 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 3: who caused the damage, and ensure that it can't happen again. 594 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: Why isn't that our focus? And the answer is because 595 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 3: it's more important to be political. This was the same 596 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: disgusting stuff that rocked us during COVID. We're taking this 597 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: virus or we're making it political. And now we have 598 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: the facts about Fauci and the so called experts, and 599 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: they're still. 600 00:35:52,960 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 9: Making it politicals of scene, I'm Tony Kats Live from Baull, 601 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 9: Heart bind and the Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today. 602 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 3: So Senator Rand Paul called Anthony Fauci, doctor Fauci the 603 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: esteem that stem It's funny when you say it out loud. 604 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 3: Anthony Fauci was the guy we were supposed to have 605 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: faith in, we're supposed to believe, representing the institutions in 606 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 3: the conversations about COVID and how we survive, and Anthony 607 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 3: Fauci lied, and Anthony Fauci lied a lot. Tony Kats 608 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 3: Tony Kats today an absolute pleasure to be hearing, to 609 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: be with you live streaming on YouTube and rumble. Check 610 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 3: it out Tony Katz on the Twitter also known as 611 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: x Tony Kat's Facebook, Tony Cats Radio, Get in there, subscribe, 612 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 3: do all the good things. Anthony Fauci took the fifth. 613 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 3: He did so one hundred and eleven times this morning 614 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 3: in this hearing. No matter what the question, I plead 615 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 3: the fifth. And some of the questions were pretty innocuous. 616 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: Some of the questions were pretty normal. Actually they weren't 617 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: even normal. They were super weird. But it was trying 618 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 3: to set the points that he won't answer anything. This 619 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: was Senator Josh Hawley, Hey. 620 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: You, miss chairman, Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth. 621 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: H doc, Let's try something. 622 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 6: What day of the week is it today? 623 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 10: On the Devisive Council, I respectfully declined to answer based 624 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 10: upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. 625 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 3: We color tie you're wearing. 626 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 10: On the advisive Council, I respectfully declined to answer, based 627 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 10: upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. 628 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 6: What colors the carpet in front of you. 629 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: On the Advisive Council? 630 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 10: I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under 631 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 10: the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. 632 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 3: So this is going well. So you understand he wasn't 633 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: going to answer anything. And if you're asking, why wouldn't 634 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 3: he answer those questions, because it would open himself up 635 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 3: to answer one question is to answer all questions. Right, 636 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 3: that's the story that if he answered any of the questions, 637 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 3: he'd be a guy who would be answering questions, and 638 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: therefore he couldn't do that. Now we can ask ourselves 639 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: why in the world he would actually take the fifth 640 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 3: We have the data, we have the story, we have 641 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 3: his documentation, we know what he did, and he had 642 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 3: gotten a pardon still taking the fifth. But before he does, 643 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 3: he gives an opening statement. Listen jar. 644 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 10: Member Peters, members of the Committee. I served at the 645 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 10: NIH for over fifty four years. 646 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 3: Thirty eight of those. 647 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 10: As Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. 648 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 10: Over that period, I proved that I believe in and 649 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 10: respect the value of legitimate congressional oversight. In fact, I 650 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 10: testified before and or briefed Senate and House Congressional Senate 651 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 10: and House committees well over two hundred times over. 652 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 3: Those thirty eight years. 653 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 10: During and after the COVID pandemic, I have appeared multiple 654 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 10: times for hearings in the Senate and the House, usually 655 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 10: under oath, and sat for several days long transcribed sworn 656 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,959 Speaker 10: interviews answering questions about the. 657 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 3: Very issues that are now the subject of this hearing. 658 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 10: However, given Senator Paul's obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution, 659 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 10: his repeated slanderous comments about me, and recently his publicly 660 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 10: releasing my unredacted personal diary aimed at embarrassing and intimidating me, 661 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 10: the only conclusion I can reach is that the sole 662 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 10: reason he is calling me before. 663 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 3: This committee is to get me. 664 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 10: To say something, anything, that could vindicate his repeated public 665 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 10: pledges that I end up in his words quote behind 666 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 10: bars unquote. Any reasonable person who has followed his unhinged 667 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 10: obsession with me would readily come to the same conclusion. Therefore, 668 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 10: although it pains me to do so, because of the 669 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 10: respect I have for the legislative branch of government and 670 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 10: my decades long record of cooperating with Congress, under the 671 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 10: advice of my attorneys, I will invoke my right under 672 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 10: the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering 673 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 10: your questions. 674 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. So I'm not going to answer any questions, 675 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 3: but before I do, let me see how much I 676 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 3: can impune and center around Paul. And the best is 677 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how she got I mean, I guess 678 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 3: anybody can. And Laura Ingram from Fox News is behind 679 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: Fauci during this, and some of the eye rolls it 680 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 3: looks it's like she's a meme. Right there, it's pretty 681 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 3: well done. I'm gonna start where I start, which is, well, 682 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 3: I guess we could start with saying that rand Paul 683 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 3: is guilty of slander, intimidation, obsession, unhinged. What about this 684 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 3: is obsession and intimidation and slander. It's your diary, it's 685 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 3: your words, it's your conversations, it's your notes. What exactly 686 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 3: about all of this could possibly be slander obsession. You lied, 687 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: you lied, and as somebody who is out there trying 688 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 3: to figure out what happened to what we did to 689 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 3: the country, shouldn't we note the people who lied and 690 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 3: hold them to account. It's the only rational course, only 691 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 3: rational course. But I have to dig into this idea 692 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 3: of unredacted sharing my unredacted diary. Now. I have had 693 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 3: a couple people ask me in the chat room. I've 694 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 3: had people on social media who keeps a diary? And 695 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 3: are you Tony the only person who doesn't keep a 696 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 3: diary any I don't see anything wrong with diaries, with 697 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 3: having a journal, with writing things down, not at all, 698 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 3: notes of what happened during the day, thoughts that you had. 699 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 3: It's actually a really helpful thing to go back and 700 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: look at your own notes. I talk about this in 701 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 3: the World of Cigars, about keeping a diary of what 702 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 3: you've been trying and flavors that you gots. You can 703 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 3: go back and look at things. The idea of keeping 704 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 3: notes of of where you were. Whenever I write somebody 705 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 3: a note, if I send somebody a card, I date 706 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 3: it so people know when it came from. I think 707 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 3: it's actually an extremely good skill and one that I 708 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 3: would commend people to getting into. Do I keep a diary? 709 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 3: I do not. I have this show. If I want 710 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 3: to know what I was thinking at any one moment, 711 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 3: I could just go back through the shows. Right The 712 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 3: show is my diary. The show is also my therapy. 713 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 3: I would tell you right now, get yourself a show. 714 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 3: It is helpful. Sometimes it'll drive you nuts, but for 715 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 3: the most part, very very helpful for keeping blood pressure low. 716 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 3: If the diary had been redacted, doctor Fauci, would that 717 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 3: have been better? You mean, if we didn't have the information, 718 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 3: if we didn't have the data, if we didn't have 719 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 3: you on record, if we didn't have proof of all 720 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 3: of the things that you had said privately contrary to 721 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: what you had said publicly, then it would have been fine. 722 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: That's that is a very very very weird argument. That 723 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 3: is a strange, peculiar bit of nonsense. It is because 724 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 3: we have all this information that we can say, my gosh, 725 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 3: look what you have done, Look what you have done, 726 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 3: and what you have done is unacceptable. And there are 727 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 3: a lot of senators, Democrats and Republicans showed up. One 728 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 3: of the people who showed up, John Fetterman, actually put 729 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: on the suit and tie. 730 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 11: To say this, but one that I it's not about 731 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 11: much more your regrets, But I have one, and that 732 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 11: is early on that there was the theory that the 733 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 11: virus could have emerged from the lab. And early on 734 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 11: that became like a right wing kind of theory, and 735 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 11: I thought it seemed to make sense. Now there was 736 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 11: a really advanced lab that was close by, and then 737 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 11: you have this unknown virus out. So but that became 738 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 11: a very partisan thing, and now it seems now it's 739 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 11: more and more emerging theory that that would have come 740 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 11: from from the lab. Now, you know, I hope I 741 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 11: think that the next time our nation's facing something like this, 742 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 11: we are not become you know, as I might have 743 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 11: been blinded by the partisan idea that maybe the truth 744 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 11: might come from a side that's different than than you are. 745 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 11: I think we should really be willing to pursue truth, 746 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 11: no matter where that may have emerged. 747 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 3: You know, after that is correct, we should not be 748 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 3: afraid to ask ourselves what is actually happening here? And 749 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 3: it may come from a different place than our ideological brethren. 750 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't make it wrong, it doesn't make it wrong. 751 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 3: And yet that's where we're going. I mean, the hearing 752 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 3: had all sorts of nonsense associated with it, including the 753 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 3: lawyer for Anthony Fauci. Now there were a bunch of 754 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 3: lawyers there. He had a bunch of lawyers, and Senator 755 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 3: rand Paul makes a note of this repeatedly, and one 756 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 3: of them decided to sit at the table with Fetterman. 757 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 3: He wasn't asked to sit at this table with Fetterman. 758 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 3: He wasn't a witness, he wasn't called as a witness, 759 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 3: He had no ability to speak. But he wanted to 760 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 3: sit next to his clients, and and and and he 761 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 3: wanted to now get into a back and forth with 762 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 3: Senator ran Paul, to which Senator ran Paul is not 763 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 3: having any of it. And yet Democrats want to hear 764 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 3: from the lawyer. 765 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 4: As you are not recognized security, we'll we'll hold off, 766 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 4: but you will respect these proceedings. You were told not 767 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 4: to sit at the table. You insist on sitting at 768 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 4: the table, and we told you you would not be recognized. 769 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 4: You are not invited here for testimony, Sir. You are 770 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 4: being disruptive. Would you behave this way in a courtroom? No, 771 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 4: because the judge would put you in jail. I can't 772 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 4: do that today, but I can have you escorted from 773 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 4: the premises. So I would say, sir, sit quietly and 774 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 4: don't say another word. I said, said quietly, you are 775 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 4: not recognized. Another word and you're gone. 776 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 3: He doesn't sit so quietly. I mean he tries to 777 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 3: you for a little bit. Mister chairman. 778 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 5: I'd like to hear what the attorney has to say. 779 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 3: That's Gary Peters, Democrat from Michigan, the guy not running 780 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 3: for reelection. He's not a witness. So this is a 781 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 3: great example of the politics. You're the senator, this is 782 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 3: your hearing. Do you not believe in the rules? And 783 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 3: the answer is, well, when it's politically disadvantageous, I don't 784 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 3: believe in the rules. What kind of thing is this? 785 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 3: So Gary Peters, the ranking member says, I want to 786 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 3: hear from him, and Ran Paul's like, what's wrong with you? 787 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 4: He is not recognized by the committee or the chair. 788 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 4: If he speaks again, he will be removed from the room. 789 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 4: This testimony is from Anthony Fauci. This is not a 790 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 4: game with the lawyers. He can advise, his lawyers can 791 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 4: give him advice. He's got a half dozen here they're 792 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 4: all allowed to talk to him, yes, all right, but 793 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 4: the attorneys are not recognized. In fact, the attorney was 794 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 4: told not to sit at the table and he's not 795 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 4: obeying that recommendation. There's a row behind you, sir, that's 796 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 4: where you were told to sit, and you're not. And 797 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 4: now you're disrupting the proceedings. And so look, this is 798 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 4: the way Anthony Fauci wants to be remembered. For a lawyer, 799 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 4: not listening to the rules, that's the. 800 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 3: Way you want to be remembered. And that's where you're 801 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 3: going to do. 802 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 5: You are not recognized, sir. 803 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 4: Of security police removing from the room. 804 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 3: His briefcase, Core folded in the briefcase, and then he 805 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:53,240 Speaker 3: he leaves. You should look at this and say these 806 00:50:53,280 --> 00:51:02,760 Speaker 3: people are unserrious. The worst part about COVID, well, people 807 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 3: did die. We took something that we should have been 808 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 3: working on together and we said, how do we make 809 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 3: it political? I can't say it enough. And here we are, 810 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 3: knowing what we know about Fauci and how he lied, 811 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 3: and they're still making it political. I want to say 812 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 3: again that the court of public opinion is going to 813 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 3: be very very clear here guilty now as for the 814 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 3: idea of a prosecution. The Senator Ran Paul later spoke 815 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 3: to the press about this. Oh heard you. 816 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 6: Hold doctor Fauci your name that you. 817 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 12: That's the moment that will happen in committee next week. 818 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 3: It will be in contempt of Congress. We believe that 819 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 3: with his liability, his. 820 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 4: Immunity from the criminal liability, that he didn't need to 821 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 4: hide on the Fifth Amendment. 822 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 3: And then maybe the Fifth Amendment. 823 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 4: Doesn't attach when you have a part in your place. 824 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 12: That'll be a legal question, but the question on the 825 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 12: tem will be voted on, and then there's a question 826 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 12: of whether or not the environment of justice will take 827 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,240 Speaker 12: that out. You know, I've recommended before for his criminal 828 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 12: pum prosecution, and neither the Biden DOJ nor the Trump 829 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 12: DOJ I have taken it out. 830 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 5: All I can do is recommend the prosecution. 831 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 3: I can't initiate prosecuting, correct His hands are tied at 832 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 3: that moment, and Fauci may be very well just relying 833 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 3: on that as a citizen he can Does the pardon 834 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 3: preclude him from taking the Fifth I don't have an 835 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 3: answer for you. I'm not going to claim to be 836 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 3: a legal expert, right, Okay, I did once see five 837 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 3: episodes of Matt Locke, so I should be pretty good. 838 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 3: But I don't have the answer. And the question is 839 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 3: will the DOJ make a move? And you also have 840 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 3: to consider the political on that do you make a move? 841 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,439 Speaker 3: Let me further the political do you make the move 842 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 3: before the midterms? These are real considerations. But the court 843 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 3: of public opinion, this dude's guilty, and we all damn 844 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 3: well know it. I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony 845 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 3: Katz Today. There is a story about eBay that might 846 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 3: qualify as the weirdest story I have ever come across 847 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 3: Tony Kats Tony Katz today, and that's saying something. It 848 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,399 Speaker 3: is a fifty six million dollars settlement, Tony Kat, I said, 849 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, I said, hello, sorry, this is weird the story. 850 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 3: It's got me all confused. eBay and three former top 851 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 3: execs are paying fifty five point seven million. It's a 852 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 3: lawsuit by a Massachusetts couple who say they were victims 853 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 3: of a stalking and harassment campaign carried out by employees 854 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:08,720 Speaker 3: and retaliation for their coverage of the company. So David 855 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 3: and Einsteiner I know nothing about them at all. They run. 856 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 3: I guess a site that reviews different websites. It's called 857 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 3: e commerce bites Bytes, and it was critical of eBay, 858 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 3: and I guess eBay didn't like it. And so the 859 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 3: chief communications officer texted to someone in twenty nineteen that 860 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 3: it was time to quote take her down meeting this 861 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:54,799 Speaker 3: woman and this couple. So they engaged in harassment of 862 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 3: this couple. They were trying to figure out how they 863 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 3: could go so after this couple, they targeted them in 864 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 3: a cyberstalking campaign that involved this is the quote. This 865 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 3: is from Yahoo Finance sending the couple cockroaches, fly larvae 866 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 3: and a bloody Halloween pig mask. That is so unhinged 867 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 3: that these people at eBay could be one of my trolls. 868 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 3: Who does this? Why in the world would anyone? I'm 869 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 3: Tony Katz. Three more Things Tony Katz. That's me, by 870 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 3: the way, Tony kats today. It's the name of the 871 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 3: show YouTube and rumble, Tony Katz Facebook, Tony cats Radio 872 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 3: on the Twitter, also known as x Tony Katz. Three 873 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 3: more things. These are things that should be front page news, 874 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 3: but because of what's on the front page, they don't 875 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 3: make the front page. I bring these things to you 876 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 3: as well. Now we know that Jordan intercepted five Iranian missiles. 877 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 3: This took place yesterday. It was Sentcom making this announcement 878 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 3: that there was a missile attack from the Iranian regime. 879 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 3: I think the most interesting thing about this is that 880 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 3: they let everybody know they can still send missiles. And 881 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 3: it was the US and Saudi Arabia together that engaged 882 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 3: in responses. Part of this is Iran still trying to 883 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 3: get the neighboring nations who they've already attacked multiple times, 884 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 3: the Ue, Bahrain, Jordan, to come to their side. It's 885 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 3: not happening. The Middle East is changing, and Trump has 886 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 3: been a leader in this. The Abraham Accords have done this, 887 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 3: the Rethink has done this. And NETANYAHUO was there at 888 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 3: the White House yesterday and a couple of articles were 889 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 3: about the diminished stature of net Yahoo. I took that 890 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 3: as an interesting kind of statement, Trump saying I'm gonna 891 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 3: sell F thirty five to whomever I want to sell 892 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 3: F thirty five too. Yes he is. Do I think 893 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 3: you should sell them to Turkey? 894 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 10: No? 895 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 3: I don't, but yeah, he's gonna make that call. He's 896 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 3: not worried about what Netnyahuo says about it. All of 897 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 3: this going to the idea that if you think net 898 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 3: Naho is in charge of Trump, it's just unseeriousness. It's 899 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 3: just Trump hate. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. You 900 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 3: can argue that you don't want to be involved in 901 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 3: a fight with Iran. I think that that's a bad idea. 902 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 3: We know it's a terrorist nation, that the terrorism continues. 903 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 3: They've been at war with US for forty seven years, 904 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 3: just like Islamists have been at war with the world 905 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 3: since the beginning of the Islamist but them shooting missiles 906 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 3: shows that they still can. And to point out something 907 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 3: major Mike Lyon said earlier on the program our military analyst, 908 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 3: the economic block may be working, and there may be fractures, 909 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 3: and they may not be able to pay all of 910 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 3: their terrorists, but the bombing should continue to exacerbate what's 911 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 3: happening on the economic side, to continue the pressure. And 912 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 3: I wonder if that's going to happen. President Trump said 913 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 3: he was going to hit them hard. The Dow was 914 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 3: down over eight hundred points at one moment today, the 915 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 3: Nasdaq was down over two hundred points one moment today, 916 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 3: and you could say that that has to do with 917 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 3: oil oils at eighty four dollars and fifty cents. It 918 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 3: is about midday a barrel in the West Texas crew 919 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 3: that comes out of the ground. The Brent crewed coming 920 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 3: out of the oceans was eighty nine dollars and ninety 921 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 3: seven cents. It's up over five dollars just today. Right 922 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 3: anytime there's an action that these things are going to 923 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 3: go up. But Iran told us that they're still capable 924 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 3: of doing things, so we have to, I think, engage 925 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 3: appropriately with that. So that's leading the way. And of 926 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 3: course Anthony Fauci not testifying in front of of Congress 927 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 3: showing up to plead the fifth one hundred and eleven times. 928 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 3: We did the count. It was one hundred and eleven 929 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 3: times that we saw this happen, that he pled the fifth. 930 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 3: He would not answer questions. But there are some other stories, 931 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 3: and one of these goes to New York. And if 932 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 3: you say to me, Tony, we don't care about New York, 933 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 3: I agree. But if we're going to argue that Mamdannie 934 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 3: is now leading the New Democrat Party, which is the 935 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 3: Communist party, we have to see what it is that 936 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 3: he has brought and what it is it has, what 937 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 3: it is that it has wrought. Yeah, yeah, I shouldn't 938 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 3: have said it that way. That's that's not good for radio. 939 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 3: Longtime New Yorkers. According to The New York Post, fume 940 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 3: after being hit with a massive Pieta tear tax. This 941 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 3: was Mamdani bragging about the fact that if you have 942 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 3: a second home in New York, condo, apartment, whatever it 943 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 3: is worth over five million dollars, you're going to pay 944 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 3: more taxes because you have to pay your fair share. 945 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 3: The rich aren't paying their fair share. We've heard this 946 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 3: before and it's nonsensical. Well, a list got released of 947 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 3: all the homes that are going to get hit, names, addresses, 948 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 3: and people are saying, you just put out a hit list. Now. 949 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 3: I noted immediately that if somebody wanted to, they could 950 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 3: find publicly available information home purchases. The stuff gets listed, 951 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 3: it gets recorded. The argument counter to that, if people 952 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 3: are being hit with a tax, you could look up 953 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 3: and see what's going on, is that What the Mamdani 954 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 3: team did is they made it a very easy, very 955 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 3: searchable bit of information because they want to go after 956 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 3: these people, whether it's they want attack, whether they want humiliation, 957 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 3: whether they want a pressure campaign, whatever it is, and 958 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 3: that's why they did it. And when you take a 959 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 3: look at the numbers of where this tax is going, 960 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 3: you start realizing that this isn't about five million dollars 961 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 3: worth of value, which in New York is a very 962 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 3: easy thing for an apartment to be. You have got 963 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 3: numbers that go down to a million. It's not just apartments, 964 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 3: it's it's homes. And people have been getting these these letters, 965 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,919 Speaker 3: this potential tax bill who don't own a second home. 966 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 3: This is their primary residence. So they are extremely, extremely bothered. 967 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 3: This is what you voted for. My problem is that 968 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 3: not everybody in New York voted for this. And the 969 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 3: reason I bring it up is because terrible ideas very 970 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 3: often spread. You've got a communist that runs, You've got 971 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 3: the whole of California, so you have the possibility of 972 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 3: this spreading very often. What happens in the Midwest, now 973 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 3: I know, we're heard all over the place. Were heard 974 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 3: in Charlotte and WBT, were heard in Detroit on nine 975 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,959 Speaker 3: ten AM superstation, were heard in Peoria, Illinois, were heard 976 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 3: down in Tulsa on KRMG. Other spots in Indiana, what's 977 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 3: up MNC nation. What happens in New York has a 978 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 3: way of spreading, and very often you'll hear me say, 979 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 3: the people who don't want to live under this insanity 980 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 3: will move. I have said this about Ken Griffin, who 981 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 3: that's the video that Mom Donnie made of the hedge 982 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 3: fund manager. This is Ken Griffin's other apartment or one 983 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 3: of his properties, and we're going to tax a living 984 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 3: snot out of it. And Ken Griffin said, well, we're 985 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 3: not going to have our offices in New York. Correct, 986 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 3: correct answer. You should just move all your business out 987 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 3: of New York. You don't need to be there anymore. 988 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 3: It's the capital of nothing. It's not the capital of 989 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:18,439 Speaker 3: finance anymore. Let's change the capital of finance Newsmax and 990 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 3: Fox News. Why are you staying there? I don't disagree. 991 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 3: It would be a huge investment to have to move 992 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 3: everything out of those buildings. I get it. They're going 993 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 3: to tax you out of existence. They're gonna come after you. 994 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 3: Why stay? I really do think that they should, that 995 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 3: they should move. And what I get is Tony want 996 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 3: we don't want these people moving here. Everybody across the 997 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 3: Midwest and all these places. Oh, we don't want them 998 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 3: coming here. I understand that all too well. But there 999 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 3: are plenty of people who live in these places. They 1000 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,439 Speaker 3: haven't done anything wrong, they didn't vote for this. They're 1001 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 3: living in the madness, and they don't want to live 1002 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 3: in the madness. I I, as I see it. There 1003 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 3: are good businesses out there. Why shouldn't we want them? 1004 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 3: Good business is run by good people. Why shouldn't we 1005 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 3: want them? Why shouldn't we say come? I believe New 1006 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 3: York should suffer the fate of Atlas Shrugged, and eventually 1007 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 3: the lights will go out, and we should watch them fail. 1008 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 3: And I think we should point and tell everybody we know, 1009 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 3: you see that, That's what happens when you're a fool. 1010 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 3: That's what happens when you push against capitalism. That's what 1011 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 3: happens when you hate people. That's what happens when you 1012 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 3: say things as ignorant and daft and allheartedly stupid, as 1013 01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 3: fair share. These things are coming for the Midwest and 1014 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 3: the South and everywhere else. We need to be aware 1015 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 3: of them. That's why I bring it up. Then there 1016 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 3: was a story from the Wall Street Journal fascinating from 1017 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 3: Cracker barrel to Boeing. Companies are turning to retired CEOs. 1018 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 3: The new crop of CEOs are failing, so they're going 1019 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 3: back to the people who were there before. And I 1020 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 3: wondered aloud, what this is telling us? Is this about acumen? 1021 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 3: Is this about business? Is this about knowing how to 1022 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 3: run a company? Or is this about attitude? That the 1023 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 3: company has to profit? When the company profits, it can survive. 1024 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 3: So stop worrying about the other nonsense and get back 1025 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 3: to profit. People. Now, you could argue it might be 1026 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 3: one and the same. I'm not one hundred percent sure 1027 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 3: it's one and the same. Maybe the answer is the 1028 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 3: attitude it allows for the acumen to flourish. Profit is good, Well, 1029 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 3: you're profiting on the back, so the working class, the 1030 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 3: working class is making money because the company is profiting. 1031 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 3: If I hire somebody, I'll pick a number at ten 1032 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 3: dollars an hour, well, let's call it twenty dollars an hour, 1033 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 3: to make you know, some people not crazy. If I 1034 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 3: hire somebody at twenty dollars an hour, they have to 1035 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 3: provide me twenty one dollars an hour worth of service. 1036 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 3: Otherwise it's of no value. Why would I hire them? 1037 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 3: Why would I ever do such a thing. So you 1038 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 3: have to start with the attitude that profit is good, 1039 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 3: profit matters, and if you don't have that attitude, you 1040 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 3: don't have a company worth a day. So is that 1041 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 3: what we're seeing here, that this turning to retired CEOs. Yes, 1042 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 3: it could be because they have a proven tree, and 1043 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 3: it could be because they have the attitude that is 1044 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 3: necessary for growth. Not playing in the woke spaces, not 1045 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 3: playing in the madness, not worrying about having a board 1046 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 3: that has two of this color and two of this 1047 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 3: gender and two of this no, no, no, a board 1048 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 3: that knows what it's doing, a company that is focused. 1049 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 3: And maybe what needs to happen is you bring in 1050 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 3: these older CEOs and the thing that matters most is 1051 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 3: training the other executives to be able to take over 1052 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 3: a company that has the same attitude. Maybe the most 1053 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 3: telling story I have seen in a while, because you 1054 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 3: know what attitude is acumen. Look at that. You turn 1055 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 3: me all around right there. You need the attitude to 1056 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 3: be able to apply the acumen to be able to 1057 01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 3: have the company on better financial footing, which is better 1058 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 3: for everybody who works for the company because it means 1059 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 3: they have a job, having two of this and two 1060 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 3: of that and all the woke stuff. It doesn't provide 1061 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 3: a result. It doesn't provide a value. We've proven it. 1062 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:19,719 Speaker 3: We've proven it. And if you want real value, protect 1063 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 3: your data because there are people out there trying to 1064 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 3: steal it every single way they can. And they get 1065 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,639 Speaker 3: these files with your address and your sell numbers, your 1066 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 3: email addresses. They've got your kids name, they've got your kids' names, 1067 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 3: and this this file that has your medical history and 1068 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 3: everything else. It can be bought by anybody with a 1069 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 3: credit card. This is the data broker industry, multi billion 1070 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 3: dollar industry. Your file gets collected, it gets packaged, it 1071 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 3: gets sold, all of it legal, and they know everything 1072 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 3: about you and they send that fishing texture, like, how 1073 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 3: in the world does somebody know this? Someone paid for 1074 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,839 Speaker 3: your file? Guys, last year Americans lost twenty billion dollars 1075 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 3: to fraud. That's with a b. These scammers, they're not lucky. 1076 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,760 Speaker 3: They got prepared. Do something about it. Protect your file. 1077 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 3: I did I use incognit I ncog n I they 1078 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 3: go broker by broker, forcing each one of them to 1079 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 3: delete your file. You know those opt out forms that 1080 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 3: they all bury well in cognifinds those and if your 1081 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 3: data tries to creep back right, try they try and 1082 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 3: get it back out there and Cognity wipes it again. 1083 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 3: Go to incognit dot com. Slash cats Katz my last name. 1084 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 3: That's the website. In cogniti dot com slash cats right 1085 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 3: now for sixty percent off. Promo code cats in Cogni 1086 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 3: that's who you want to use. Get sixty percent off 1087 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 3: in cognity dot com. Slash cats. Take your private life 1088 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 3: off of the market. In Cogni dot com slash cats. 1089 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 3: Keep it here. It's Tony Kats. Today we will beat 1090 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 3: the blanking blank out of Iran. Well, that's what President 1091 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 3: Trump said. Don't look at me, Tony Katz. Tony Katz. 1092 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 3: Today it was a Ran that tried to hit US 1093 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,639 Speaker 3: bases and US personnel and Jordan and other places. President 1094 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,720 Speaker 3: Trump said, We'll be hitting them hard. They're going to 1095 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 3: get a beating. He said this on Fox News a 1096 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:12,600 Speaker 3: brief interview he had with Trey yinst and further continued 1097 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 3: the conversation that negotiations will continue. Quote, We're going to 1098 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:23,719 Speaker 3: let them keep talking. Sure, Okay, they don't make a deal, 1099 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 3: then I go back and I finish the job. But 1100 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 3: that's going to take them forever to rebuild. I could 1101 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 3: take out most of their bridges in less than an hour, 1102 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 3: less than an hour. It really decimates the country. So 1103 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 3: those are big things. And then there's always the desalinization plans, 1104 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 3: and who am I hurting there? I'm hurting the people, 1105 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 3: So I'm not looking to do that. I just want 1106 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 3: very simply, they cannot have a nuclear weapon. And what 1107 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 3: they have told you, mister President, is that they want 1108 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon, and they're not going to stomp pushing 1109 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 3: for a nuclear weapon, and there is no behavior change 1110 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 3: at all that is going to get them to stomp. 1111 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 3: They want to have dominion over the area and they 1112 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 3: want to be able to threaten all of humanity for forever. 1113 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 3: And if they don't build it today, they're gonna try 1114 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 3: and build it tomorrow. They're clear. This isn't This isn't 1115 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,639 Speaker 3: the Israelis, this isn't the Americans, This isn't some weirdo 1116 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 3: kind of thing conspiracy theory online. This is what the 1117 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:26,639 Speaker 3: regime is telling you. So you have one option, and 1118 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 3: one option only, one ping only miss to facility. You 1119 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 3: have one option only and that is the end of 1120 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,799 Speaker 3: the regime. And if it means taking out the bridges, 1121 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 3: taking out the power plants, yeah, that's what it means. 1122 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 3: And yes it's gonna be rough on the people, and 1123 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 3: we can help them because they're gonna have a lot 1124 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 3: of oil money with which to rebuild or to get 1125 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 3: to This is Tony Katts today. 1126 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 1: From Baul Hart Band and the Crossroads of America. 1127 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:06,839 Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today. 1128 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 4: The Chairman has denied your assertion of privilege and directed 1129 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 4: you to answer, but you nonetheless refuse and stand on 1130 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 4: privilege despite the existence of the pardon. The committee will 1131 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,880 Speaker 4: have to consider after this hearing what appropriate action should 1132 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 4: be taken against you for the failure to testify after 1133 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 4: being directed to do so. It's against the law to 1134 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 4: obstruct an investigation of Congress. There will be repercussions to 1135 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 4: your refusal to testify today, Sinner peters, you're not recognized. 1136 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,640 Speaker 4: You're not recognized. If you are unruly, you will be 1137 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:47,879 Speaker 4: removed from the proceeding. 1138 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 3: So this went well, Holy cow, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, guys, 1139 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 3: so good to be with you. Anthony Fauci, Doctor Anthony 1140 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 3: Fauci Liar was subpoena brought in front of the Center 1141 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 3: Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee to testify regarding actions 1142 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 3: regarding COVID, the release of information showing that he quite 1143 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:20,800 Speaker 3: clearly knew that he was chock full of fraud. And 1144 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 3: he decides that what he's going to do is he's 1145 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 3: not going to answer any questions. He is only going 1146 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 3: to plead the fifth That's it. And I mean he 1147 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,920 Speaker 3: went on a he went on a tear about Rand Paul. 1148 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 3: But Rand Paul went on a tear about him. And 1149 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,559 Speaker 3: then his lawyer is sitting next to him, and he'd 1150 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 3: already been told you're not allowed to sit next to him. 1151 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 3: The lawyers aren't recognized as witnesses. Only Anthony Fauci is. 1152 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 3: But the lawyer sitting next to him, the lawyer won't leave, 1153 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,599 Speaker 3: and then the lawyer wants to get into a fight 1154 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,480 Speaker 3: with Senator Ran Paul, and Rand Paul's like, you're not recognized, 1155 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 3: you're not even here, you don't get to have a say, 1156 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,160 Speaker 3: and it got loud. 1157 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 4: You are not you are not recognized, and you you 1158 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 4: are not recognized, sir, sir, you are not recognized. You 1159 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:19,320 Speaker 4: are not recognized. Security, we'll we'll hold off, but you 1160 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 4: will respect these proceedings. You were told not to sit 1161 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,920 Speaker 4: at the table. You insist on sitting at the table, 1162 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 4: and we told you you would not be recognized. You 1163 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 4: are not invited here for testimony. Sir, you are being disruptive. 1164 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 4: Would you behave this way in a courtroom? No, because 1165 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 4: the judge would put you in jail. I can't do 1166 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 4: that today, but I can have you escorted from the premises. 1167 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 4: So I would say, sir, sit quietly and don't say 1168 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 4: another word. I said, sid quietly, you are not recognized. 1169 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 4: Another word and you're gone. 1170 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 11: He's not going to sick quietly, Swister chairman, I'd like 1171 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,679 Speaker 11: to hear what the journey has to say. 1172 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 3: That's a democrat. That's a democrat who let him speak. 1173 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 3: He's not recognized that. It's as if there are rules, 1174 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,840 Speaker 3: but when they don't want the rules, why have rules? 1175 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 1: Now? 1176 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,679 Speaker 3: This is how we feel about Congress all the time. 1177 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 3: And the most infuriating part of all this, all the lies, 1178 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 3: all the fraud, all the deceit, No one's gonna go 1179 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 3: to jail. This is the part that gets us crazy. 1180 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 3: This is the part that drives us nuts. We see 1181 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 3: people in clear violation. Nothing happens to them. But if 1182 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 3: you jaywalk, you're going to jail. You post something online 1183 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 3: people don't like, they think you should be charged. I mean, 1184 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,840 Speaker 3: that's certainly what happens in the UK. More and more 1185 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,479 Speaker 3: people want that to happen in the US. That's the 1186 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 3: part that's nuts. So they're Senator Peters from Michigan, who's 1187 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,640 Speaker 3: not running for reelection, saying I'd like to hear what 1188 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,439 Speaker 3: he has to say, and Rand Paul's like, I don't 1189 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 3: think you understand how any of this works. 1190 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,599 Speaker 4: He is not recognized by the committee or the chair. 1191 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 4: If he speaks again, he will be removed from the room. 1192 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 4: This testimony is from Anthony Fauci. This is not a 1193 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 4: game with his lawyers. He can advise, his lawyers can 1194 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,719 Speaker 4: give him advice. He's got a half dozen here. They're 1195 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 4: all allowed to talk to him. Yes, all right, but 1196 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 4: the attorneys are not recognized. In fact, the attorney was 1197 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 4: told not to sit at the table and he's not 1198 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 4: obeying that recommendation. There's a row behind you, sir, that's 1199 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 4: where you were told to sit. 1200 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:21,720 Speaker 3: And you're not. 1201 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,280 Speaker 5: And now you're disrupting the proceedings. 1202 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 4: And so look, this is the way Anthony Fauci wants 1203 01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 4: to be remembered for a lawyer not listening to the rules. 1204 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 4: That's the way you want to be remembered, and that's 1205 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 4: where you're going to do. You are not recognized, sir. 1206 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 4: The security police. 1207 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 5: Are moving from the room. 1208 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 3: And there it is, and security shows up. I love 1209 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:54,759 Speaker 3: the applause, by the way. That's so great. Security shows 1210 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 3: up and he takes his time and he's putting this 1211 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 3: a little folder in his briefcase and he's grabbing the briefcase, 1212 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 3: taking his sweet time. Hey see you later, Anthony. I 1213 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 3: gotta go, and he walks off right there, escorting. 1214 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 12: Of the rag. 1215 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 4: Doctor Fauci will still have the advice of the other 1216 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 4: half a dozen attorneys that he brought along today. 1217 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 3: It is it is something else that he pled the fifth. 1218 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we did we did say this was going 1219 01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 3: to happen. We certainly said it was possible that it 1220 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 3: was going to happen. But he's doing it is. It's 1221 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,639 Speaker 3: frustrating as can be. It is frustrating. Now some people 1222 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 3: have asked, wait, can he do this? Can he actually 1223 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:51,440 Speaker 3: take the fifth? Because, as as Senator Paul noted repeatedly, 1224 01:17:53,000 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 3: he has a pardon remember he got pardoned by by 1225 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. So for for what purpose is he taking 1226 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 3: the fifth here? And one can argue, as Senator Paul argues, 1227 01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:20,200 Speaker 3: he is interfering. He is interfering in an investigation of Congress. 1228 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 3: So I must say that I would make the assumption 1229 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:31,719 Speaker 3: that any citizen has the right to plead the fifth 1230 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,599 Speaker 3: absolutely has the right to plead the fifth. I'm not 1231 01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 3: going to say no, it is. It is absolutely up 1232 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 3: to the prosecution if you will to make a case, 1233 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,759 Speaker 3: if you're going to argue it's something criminal, like I argue, 1234 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 3: you got to be able to charge him. You gotta, 1235 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 3: you gotta, you gotta bring the charges. The dj has 1236 01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:00,120 Speaker 3: to do its work, but you have to make the case. Now, 1237 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 3: one could argue that this is the investigation part in 1238 01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 3: this Congress. It is different. Not one hundred percent sure 1239 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,320 Speaker 3: how that part is different. But this is how Anthony 1240 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,599 Speaker 3: Fauci this is there the opening statement from Rand Paul 1241 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 3: took place, which was, look, you lied about everything. We 1242 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,400 Speaker 3: saw this and then Gary Peters, who's the ranking member 1243 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,360 Speaker 3: of the Democrat made his little blah blah blah, and 1244 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 3: then it goes to Fauci to make an opening statement. 1245 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 3: He makes the opening statement before pleading the fifth. 1246 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 10: Member, Peters, Members of the Committee, I served at the 1247 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,679 Speaker 10: NIH for over fifty four years, thirty eight of those 1248 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 10: as Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. 1249 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:52,280 Speaker 10: Over that period, I proved that I believe in and 1250 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:58,600 Speaker 10: respect the value of legitimate congressional oversight. In fact, I 1251 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:04,559 Speaker 10: testified before and or briefed Senate and House Congressional Senate 1252 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:10,679 Speaker 10: and House committees well over two hundred times over those. 1253 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 3: Thirty eight years. 1254 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,680 Speaker 10: During and after the COVID pandemic, I have appeared multiple 1255 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:22,639 Speaker 10: times for hearings in the Senate and the House, usually 1256 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 10: under oath, and sat for several days long transcribed sworn 1257 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:35,360 Speaker 10: interviews answering questions about the very issues that are now 1258 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 10: the subject of this hearing. However, given Senator Paul's obvious 1259 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:49,680 Speaker 10: obsession with calling for my prosecution, his repeated slanderous comments 1260 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 10: about me, and recently his publicly releasing my unredacted personal 1261 01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:05,120 Speaker 10: diary aimed at embarrassing and intimidating me, the only conclusion 1262 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 10: I can reach is that the sole reason he is 1263 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 10: calling me before this committee is to get me to 1264 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 10: say something, anything that could vindicate his repeated public pledges 1265 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 10: that I end up in his words, quote behind bars unquote, 1266 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:34,400 Speaker 10: any reasonable person who has followed his unhinged obsession with 1267 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:41,400 Speaker 10: me would readily come to the same conclusion. Therefore, although 1268 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,280 Speaker 10: it pains me to do so, because of the respect 1269 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:50,040 Speaker 10: I have for the legislative branch of government and my 1270 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:55,919 Speaker 10: decades long record of cooperating with Congress, under the advice 1271 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 10: of my attorneys, I will invoke my right under the 1272 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 10: Fifth Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering your questions. 1273 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. So, he says that ran Paul has slandered. 1274 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 3: He said that ran Paul is guilty of intimidation. He 1275 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:20,480 Speaker 3: says that ran Paul is obsessed. He calls rand Paul unhinged, 1276 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 3: and then says, and now I'm not going to answer 1277 01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 3: your questions. Heck of a guy. Look, I am clear 1278 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,759 Speaker 3: in my assessment of Anthony Fauci. He is the fraud. 1279 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,599 Speaker 3: But I will tell you that while that is true, 1280 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 3: and I'm going to share a whole bunch from this 1281 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,639 Speaker 3: and the questions and the madness and the left's take 1282 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 3: on this, that they have a take of, how dare 1283 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:52,719 Speaker 3: you go after this man? He's wrong? He clearly lied. 1284 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 3: He wrote one thing, he said another thing. He did this. 1285 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 3: They the Wuhan virology Lab. They knew it wasn't a 1286 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 3: wet market, and they admitted to nothing. They lied about 1287 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:11,479 Speaker 3: all of it. That is horrifying. The damage done to 1288 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 3: the country is horrifying. And there are people who are like, 1289 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,600 Speaker 3: why are we relitigating this? Because people need to be 1290 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 3: held to account. The IRS will go after somebody who 1291 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 3: didn't pay their taxes twelve years ago. They didn't pay 1292 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,240 Speaker 3: three thousand dollars worth of taxes twelve years ago. This 1293 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 3: is a guy who cost billions and cost lives and 1294 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,800 Speaker 3: made people die alone. Never mind what we did to 1295 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:40,759 Speaker 3: kids and not being able to go to school, isolating them, 1296 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 3: giving them fear as opposed to how we confront an issue. 1297 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 3: And they're like, how dare you litigate this? How dare 1298 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,920 Speaker 3: you go over this? This man is a hero and 1299 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 3: a champion. He's not. Let's just say so. But I 1300 01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,320 Speaker 3: want to keep making this our gay And I've made 1301 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,200 Speaker 3: it all over the place, and I've made it with 1302 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 3: friends who are also in media, radio, TV, things like that. 1303 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 3: I've made it with you, with others. The real story here, 1304 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,320 Speaker 3: and I don't want anybody to lose sight of this. 1305 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:23,799 Speaker 3: The real story here is the media. The real story 1306 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,520 Speaker 3: has to be that the media never did any journalism. 1307 01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 3: The media was thwarted from doing journalism. Those in the 1308 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:39,240 Speaker 3: media who attacked those who did the actual journalism. You 1309 01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 3: couldn't ask questions about COVID. You me the American people 1310 01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 3: were silenced. Doctors who had a different view were silenced 1311 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 3: or called crack pots and discarded that. No one in 1312 01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,839 Speaker 3: the media said, wait a second, you said no masks, 1313 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,160 Speaker 3: Now you say mass you said no this, Now he 1314 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,360 Speaker 3: said this. There was no press, there was no push, 1315 01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:11,200 Speaker 3: there was no investigating. Donald Trump makes a phone call 1316 01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 3: to Ukraine. They don't really investigate. All they do is 1317 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,559 Speaker 3: use the words of Senator Adam Schiff formerly Congressman Adam 1318 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 3: Schiff and say, well, that's what happened. But we know 1319 01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,479 Speaker 3: that Adam Schiff lied when it comes to Russia. Russia, 1320 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,519 Speaker 3: Russia and Russia Ukraine. Oh, I've got the evidence. I've 1321 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,599 Speaker 3: got the goods. He said this to Chuck Todd back 1322 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 3: in the day, and Chuck Todd said, you have the proof. 1323 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 3: He goes, well, I think we're gonna get some information 1324 01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,840 Speaker 3: that's going to come out, and the information never came out. 1325 01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,760 Speaker 3: He just said it, and the press, not doing any 1326 01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:47,000 Speaker 3: actual work, went with it. They did no journalism on RUSSA, Russia, Russia. 1327 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,479 Speaker 3: They did no journalism on the fact that Biden was 1328 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 3: incompetent and incapable, unable of running, unable to run the country. 1329 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 3: He wasn't running the country. A cabal ran the country, 1330 01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 3: the auto pen. It took the debate for just some 1331 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,839 Speaker 3: of them to admit what we all knew to be true. 1332 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,679 Speaker 3: They did no investigation. They said, what hell Corin John 1333 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 3: Pierre said it was cheap fakes and this and that, 1334 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,040 Speaker 3: and everyone said, oh yeah, this is just them going 1335 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 3: after Biden because he's so successful. They did no investigation. 1336 01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,440 Speaker 3: And when it comes to COVID, they did no investigation. 1337 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 3: They just repeated numbers, parroted numbers, and said, look how 1338 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,080 Speaker 3: Trump is getting people killed. Some people want to argue, 1339 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,879 Speaker 3: you know, Trump was in charge, he was the president. 1340 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 3: He handled this wrong. My governor in Indiana at the 1341 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,599 Speaker 3: time handled this wrong. Lots of governors did. They gave 1342 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:43,920 Speaker 3: up their authority to doctors, unelected doctors. I never believe 1343 01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,719 Speaker 3: in giving my authority to a doctor. I'm not anti doctor. 1344 01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:52,720 Speaker 3: They're not in charge. The doctor says you should wear 1345 01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 3: a mask and not leave the house, but that isn't 1346 01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:01,600 Speaker 3: what the constitution says. And this doctor does not preempt 1347 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 3: what are my rights? What kind of nonsense? And that's 1348 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,719 Speaker 3: what they all should have said. And some governors did that. Hello, 1349 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,840 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis, how are you? Some governors said we're not 1350 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 3: gonna do this nonsense, We're not gonna play this game. Hello, 1351 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 3: Governor Brian Kemp of Georgia, how are you? They did 1352 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,800 Speaker 3: the right thing. Anthony Fauci did not do the right thing, 1353 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 3: and the media didn't care as long as they could 1354 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:36,680 Speaker 3: hurt Trump and they would protect this guy. That's the story. 1355 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:41,320 Speaker 3: I have three different examples of how they acted and 1356 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,559 Speaker 3: the lack of journalism. They engage and they demand respect 1357 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 3: they deserve none. How can anybody still think that CNN 1358 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 3: is a place of news? How could you possibly think this? 1359 01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,479 Speaker 3: And I have friends who go on CNA. Back in 1360 01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:56,840 Speaker 3: the day, they used to go on CNNA. I have 1361 01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:01,240 Speaker 3: friends who go on CNN, They go on Abby Phillips Show. 1362 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 3: How there comes a moment where you got to say, Okay, 1363 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,920 Speaker 3: I'm done here. Well, it's good to be on TV. 1364 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,600 Speaker 3: And it's good to confront these people. They have to 1365 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:16,080 Speaker 3: be starved of their sponsors. They're not having a conversation. 1366 01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:20,599 Speaker 3: The other day, I was a moynihan Linda moynihan Lydia, 1367 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 3: and moynihan was bringing up Fauci and Abby Phillip and 1368 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,800 Speaker 3: the two other Democrats on the palas. Oh no, no, 1369 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,680 Speaker 3: we're not talking about We're not gonna go into that. 1370 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:32,080 Speaker 3: We're not. That's exactly the stuff. They don't want to 1371 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:36,280 Speaker 3: have this conversation because they are the ones who are 1372 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:41,559 Speaker 3: complicit in allowing the lies to go forward and never 1373 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:46,599 Speaker 3: engaging in journalism, never questioning. Because they don't engage in journalism. 1374 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,479 Speaker 3: They engage in narrative. We've talked about this before. How 1375 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 3: right we are. They engage in narrative solely and exclusively, 1376 01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:58,439 Speaker 3: and they don't care about the journalism part. And for 1377 01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,120 Speaker 3: that they have to be punished. And the only way 1378 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 3: you can punish these people is not engage with their 1379 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:08,599 Speaker 3: sponsors and not engage with their content. They're the enemy. 1380 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,520 Speaker 3: They are failures at their job and they deserve no respect. 1381 01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 3: Can Fauci take the fifth I think he can. Is 1382 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,120 Speaker 3: there an issue with the pardon and the fifth. Maybe 1383 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 3: is he obstructing an investigation? Possibly, but I don't know 1384 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 3: how you compel the citizen to speak. He's innocent until 1385 01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,720 Speaker 3: proven guilty, and that is the standard by which we 1386 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,400 Speaker 3: engage a lot of these conversations. Is it different in 1387 01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,880 Speaker 3: this case. Well, we're gonna have to check the legal 1388 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,719 Speaker 3: on that. We're gonna have to see what happens next. 1389 01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,760 Speaker 3: But if you're asking, oh, Anthony Fauci is guilty, and 1390 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:53,240 Speaker 3: Anthony Fauci is despicable. And the less respect you have 1391 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,599 Speaker 3: for the man, the smarter you are, no harm should 1392 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,120 Speaker 3: befall him the way he harmed the country. Let the 1393 01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,439 Speaker 3: system do its job. This is Tony Katz today, Senator 1394 01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,080 Speaker 3: Lindsay Graham. The funeral yesterday, laid to rest today, and 1395 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:13,320 Speaker 3: now twelve Republicans have filed to run for his seat. 1396 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:19,559 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, A pleasure twelve. Yeah, that's 1397 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:23,840 Speaker 3: a that's a lot. That is going to be a lot. 1398 01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:24,000 Speaker 10: Now. 1399 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:28,599 Speaker 3: Darlene Graham is going to run. She is the sister, 1400 01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,080 Speaker 3: she was appointed to finish the rest of his term. 1401 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,200 Speaker 3: She is going to run. I really don't know where 1402 01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:41,320 Speaker 3: the appetite is going to be for her. On the 1403 01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 3: idea of running. I this is about whether or not 1404 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,599 Speaker 3: you know, we know South Carolina politics in detail. There 1405 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,320 Speaker 3: are some people who are going to run. Mark Sandford, 1406 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 3: the former congressman, the former governor who of course ruined 1407 01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:58,760 Speaker 3: his own chances by hiking the Appalachian Trail while he 1408 01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:03,360 Speaker 3: was with his mistress. Uh, you've got US Representative Ralph Norman, 1409 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:07,280 Speaker 3: he ran for governor. He has now entered the race. 1410 01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:11,080 Speaker 3: Nancy Mace, who ran for governor and came in fifth, 1411 01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:16,720 Speaker 3: is going to enter the race as well. A lot 1412 01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:21,160 Speaker 3: of different people getting into this race. It's gonna it's 1413 01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,720 Speaker 3: gonna be a real fight. It's gonna be because this 1414 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,120 Speaker 3: is this is the big time, this is the moment, 1415 01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,439 Speaker 3: and they're all trying to take advantage of it. It's 1416 01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,040 Speaker 3: gonna be one to watch. Keep it here. 1417 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:39,280 Speaker 9: This is Tony Katz today. 1418 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,880 Speaker 3: Canadian tourism is down in the United States and it's 1419 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:48,160 Speaker 3: costing US billions. I mean, that was the headline, Canadian 1420 01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,640 Speaker 3: tourism to the US fell twenty five, twenty five. I 1421 01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 3: am not in any way surprised, Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, 1422 01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,720 Speaker 3: always a pleasure to be with you guys, Always a 1423 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 3: pleasure to be with. You find everything I do at 1424 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:06,400 Speaker 3: Tony Katz dot com. Uh. The story of the Canadians 1425 01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,600 Speaker 3: is they really did not like at all or in 1426 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:15,360 Speaker 3: any way the tariffs. They did not like or enjoy 1427 01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,280 Speaker 3: being called the fifty first state. They didn't enjoy Justin 1428 01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:25,040 Speaker 3: Judeaux being called governor, and they responded by not electing Poliev, 1429 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:29,360 Speaker 3: Pierre Poliev, the Conservative for prime minister. They voted for 1430 01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 3: Mark Carney, which to me that that's kind of a backfire. 1431 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,120 Speaker 3: It's not necessarily a backfire for us, though I would 1432 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,720 Speaker 3: have liked an actual ally in Canada, but certainly a 1433 01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,320 Speaker 3: backfire for the Canadian people. You have a leftist who's 1434 01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,400 Speaker 3: doing an absolutely terrible job, you don't want him anymore, 1435 01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:51,439 Speaker 3: so you vote for another leftist. I mean, that's just 1436 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 3: a weird thing to do to yourself. That's a very 1437 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:58,080 Speaker 3: very weird thing to do. What was not weird was 1438 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,000 Speaker 3: Canadian saying we don't like it. I know never understood 1439 01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,720 Speaker 3: how people could get upset at Canadians. They're like, you 1440 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,000 Speaker 3: can't talk to us like that. They're proud of their country, 1441 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,800 Speaker 3: they're proud of who they are. We may disagree on 1442 01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,720 Speaker 3: all the hosts of things, but the idea that some 1443 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,360 Speaker 3: of the Canadian wants to be told that their second rate, 1444 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,080 Speaker 3: that they're just America's fifty first state. They don't want that. 1445 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:23,639 Speaker 3: You could appreciate that to the best charity of people. 1446 01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,040 Speaker 3: They don't want they don't want to be treated that way. 1447 01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,200 Speaker 3: They don't want to be spoken to you that way. 1448 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,800 Speaker 3: They would think that that's that's kind of crazy, it's 1449 01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,360 Speaker 3: kind of weird that, and people got mad, on, who 1450 01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,759 Speaker 3: do you think you are, Canada? What you wouldn't accept 1451 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,479 Speaker 3: that for a second As an American I wouldn't, So 1452 01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:43,640 Speaker 3: it wasn't surprising as far as I'm concerned. And I 1453 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,519 Speaker 3: wasn't surprised when they said, well, we're not going to 1454 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,920 Speaker 3: drink bourbon anymore, and we saw bourbon sales go down 1455 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,519 Speaker 3: in Canada, and people looked at that and said, well, 1456 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,720 Speaker 3: that's the reason that you've got so many issues with distilleries. No, 1457 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,080 Speaker 3: it's not. You can attribute part of it, but it's 1458 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,400 Speaker 3: actually a smaller part compared to culture changes in the 1459 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:05,559 Speaker 3: United States, including coming out of COVID, people going back 1460 01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,240 Speaker 3: to work, no longer having free time and free dollars. 1461 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:13,120 Speaker 3: Because bourbon sold like a mother. During COVID, it was nuts. 1462 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,000 Speaker 3: Cigars did very well too. What's super weird? Do you 1463 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,639 Speaker 3: guys know? I follow this stuff. I host Eat, Drink, Smoke. 1464 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:23,120 Speaker 3: It's the largest cigar and bourbon radio show in the country. 1465 01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:28,280 Speaker 3: Cigars are still maintaining. It's really it is a little fascinating. 1466 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:34,880 Speaker 3: Bourbon did not. It just didn't maintain. And part of 1467 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,599 Speaker 3: it is COVID. As I said, right, people no longer 1468 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,320 Speaker 3: had the free time or the free dollars. They couldn't 1469 01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,240 Speaker 3: sit home and try things and drink things and then 1470 01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:47,519 Speaker 3: drink a little more things. You have the glp ones right, 1471 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:51,360 Speaker 3: the w goovies, the zep bounds, the ozempics, which change 1472 01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,360 Speaker 3: how people interact with these things. They lose appetite for 1473 01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,760 Speaker 3: the alcohol. Then you have a younger generation that isn't 1474 01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,360 Speaker 3: interested in drinking at all. That's where you get the 1475 01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,599 Speaker 3: non alcoholic beers, groups like athletic and others, and they're 1476 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,479 Speaker 3: not drinking brown liquor. They're just not interested. They don't 1477 01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,040 Speaker 3: want it. So there are massive cultural changes that have 1478 01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:16,960 Speaker 3: taken place. Generational changes. You have medicinal changes. That's where 1479 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,679 Speaker 3: the great majority of change comes from. You also could 1480 01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:25,720 Speaker 3: have in basic understandings of business that there was over extension, 1481 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,360 Speaker 3: kind of like a belief that the good times are 1482 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,280 Speaker 3: going to last for forever, which is not the way 1483 01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:36,000 Speaker 3: it works. Also, if they ran out of bourbon, Let's 1484 01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:39,000 Speaker 3: say there was a four year bourbon. Right, it's a 1485 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,840 Speaker 3: straight bourbon. But it's a four year bourbon, so not 1486 01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,920 Speaker 3: too long in the barrel. What most people consider the 1487 01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,360 Speaker 3: baseline of acceptable. Remember it bourbon goes into a barrel 1488 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,280 Speaker 3: and then out of a barrel. That's bourbon. That's all 1489 01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,519 Speaker 3: it has to do. Into the chart oak barrel first 1490 01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 3: use charto oak barrel, and then out of the barrel. 1491 01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 3: That's all you need to be bourbon. It does not 1492 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,639 Speaker 3: have to be in there for any amount of time. 1493 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:10,719 Speaker 3: Straight bourbon has to be in there for a minimum 1494 01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:15,040 Speaker 3: of two years. That's the difference. To be called a 1495 01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:19,879 Speaker 3: straight bourbon, it has to spend two years in the barrel. 1496 01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,559 Speaker 3: It also has to go in at a certain level 1497 01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,400 Speaker 3: out at a certain level. So it's eighty percent of 1498 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,759 Speaker 3: alcohol by volume, so it can go into the barrel 1499 01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,599 Speaker 3: at one hundred and sixty proof. No sorry, sorry, sorry sorry, 1500 01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:31,640 Speaker 3: it cannot go into the barrel at more than one 1501 01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five proof. It cannot be distilled more 1502 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,120 Speaker 3: than one hundred and sixty proof, just so we understand 1503 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:40,920 Speaker 3: each other. Gosh, I didn't want to make that mistake. 1504 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,160 Speaker 3: That would be embarrassing stuff. I actually have a book 1505 01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:48,760 Speaker 3: on this, Let's Go Bourbon. It lays all of this out. 1506 01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:52,599 Speaker 3: Let's Go Bourbon was my first book with Fingers Maloy, 1507 01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,080 Speaker 3: my co host, an a shrink Smoke, and it really 1508 01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:56,880 Speaker 3: is just a bourbon reader. It wasn't meant to be 1509 01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,240 Speaker 3: anything else other than something you can have in the bathroom. 1510 01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,240 Speaker 3: The law, some basic facts, some cool quotes, just a 1511 01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:06,360 Speaker 3: fun little reader of a book, something enjoyable. Let's Go Barbecue, 1512 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,719 Speaker 3: the barbecue book that got more into stories and theories 1513 01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,680 Speaker 3: and things like that. And I've just been remiss in 1514 01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,000 Speaker 3: the third book, Let's Go Grill, which is a grilling book. 1515 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,000 Speaker 3: And then I've been forever working on a cigar book. 1516 01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:19,720 Speaker 3: But I have real plans for that. I'm not going 1517 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,880 Speaker 3: to do it until I can do it right. But 1518 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,120 Speaker 3: that's straight bourbon. My point to you is four years 1519 01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:26,840 Speaker 3: in the barrel to be straight bourbon. My point to 1520 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,880 Speaker 3: you is you can't rush that. You can't you can't 1521 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,080 Speaker 3: force that. You can't. Time is time. I don't care 1522 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:34,639 Speaker 3: how much I ought there is, and I don't care 1523 01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,920 Speaker 3: how broad band the world is. You cannot rush a 1524 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,360 Speaker 3: four year bourbon. It has to take four years. So 1525 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,040 Speaker 3: did any of these distillers get over their skis? All right, 1526 01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:45,960 Speaker 3: we'll get more in the barrel, we'll do more of this, 1527 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,400 Speaker 3: We'll build out here, we'll build out there. The market 1528 01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:52,800 Speaker 3: didn't necessarily agree to those conditions. The market turned and 1529 01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,640 Speaker 3: people had issues. And I won't be surprised if there 1530 01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,160 Speaker 3: are a lot more small distilleries that go out and 1531 01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 3: get gobbled up, et cetera. So when they stopped buying bourbon, 1532 01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,160 Speaker 3: I understood it. But they didn't totally stop buying bourbon. 1533 01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,840 Speaker 3: Some provinces did. Some provinces still buying bourbon to this day. 1534 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,639 Speaker 3: When they said they weren't going to buy some US products, 1535 01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,080 Speaker 3: that made perfect sense. Well, they weren't going to buy 1536 01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:20,960 Speaker 3: US products. They were upset, they were angry. Now they're 1537 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:26,400 Speaker 3: spending less on tourism. Canadians spent thirteen point three billion 1538 01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:31,040 Speaker 3: dollars last year, down from nearly fifteen billion in twenty 1539 01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,799 Speaker 3: twenty four. Wait a second, how is that twenty five percent? 1540 01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,040 Speaker 3: How is it possible that they spend thirteen point three 1541 01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:42,479 Speaker 3: billion in twenty twenty five fifteen billion in twenty twenty four. 1542 01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,000 Speaker 3: That's not twenty five percent. How do you get to 1543 01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:48,120 Speaker 3: twenty five percent. I'm looking at the numbers from CBS 1544 01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,600 Speaker 3: News and that does not make any sense to me 1545 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:54,599 Speaker 3: at all. One point seven billion is not twenty five 1546 01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:59,200 Speaker 3: percent of fifteen billion. So that twenty five percent seems 1547 01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,639 Speaker 3: pretty mislead based on the numbers they're providing. But this 1548 01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,559 Speaker 3: is not this is not at all surprising, guys. It's 1549 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:11,760 Speaker 3: not surprising that there would be less tourism. It is 1550 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:18,519 Speaker 3: a rational response. And I'm amazed that people who could 1551 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,880 Speaker 3: be in any way angry at Canadians there's going to 1552 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 3: be a response. There's always a response to an action. 1553 01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:35,080 Speaker 3: The human condition has changed absolutely. Not the Senate not 1554 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:39,920 Speaker 3: talking about Canada anymore. They are setting up the votes 1555 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:45,479 Speaker 3: for Russia sanctions. I do not know the extent of 1556 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:50,200 Speaker 3: the conversations that the late Lindsay Graham had with Vladimir Selenski, 1557 01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,720 Speaker 3: but it's very clear that he was coming back with 1558 01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,639 Speaker 3: sanctions and saying we're going to do this. So there 1559 01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:59,880 Speaker 3: was the phone call that Graham had with President Trump 1560 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:03,960 Speaker 3: in like the hour before he died, and this was 1561 01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:09,680 Speaker 3: clearly a part of it. The Russians have miscalculated because 1562 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:15,920 Speaker 3: Zelensky has well calculated. I said this yesterday, but we 1563 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:21,599 Speaker 3: should be clear. He has learned. He has learned. There's 1564 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,280 Speaker 3: a way you have to do things, and there's a 1565 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:24,760 Speaker 3: way you have to deal with Trump that might be 1566 01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:26,479 Speaker 3: different than the way you deal with other world leaders. 1567 01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,400 Speaker 3: And there's a way you have to deal with America, 1568 01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:32,320 Speaker 3: and there's a way you get your story out there. Yes, 1569 01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,479 Speaker 3: Russia is the aggressor, and I wholeheartedly agree that Russia 1570 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,479 Speaker 3: has to be thwarted, and it's better to thwart them 1571 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 3: while they're trying to mess with Ukraine than if they're 1572 01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,760 Speaker 3: on the border of a NATO nation that forces us 1573 01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:46,720 Speaker 3: to fight. Russia is the aggressor, and Russia must be 1574 01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:51,160 Speaker 3: dealt with, of course, and it's better to help Ukraine 1575 01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:56,120 Speaker 3: to force Russia to lose treasure. They can't keep this 1576 01:40:56,360 --> 01:41:00,320 Speaker 3: up for forever. They don't have the money. They can 1577 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:02,280 Speaker 3: throw a lot of bodies at an issue, but they 1578 01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:05,920 Speaker 3: don't have the people. And this is turning against Putin. 1579 01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,880 Speaker 3: If you think that for a moment, Putin doesn't understand this, 1580 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,080 Speaker 3: and Putin doesn't know that he has to deal with this. 1581 01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:15,760 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's on seriousness. Can Putin kill his political enemies, Well, 1582 01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,920 Speaker 3: of course he can kill his political enemies, He's done 1583 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:22,280 Speaker 3: it many times before. But you have people who are 1584 01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,960 Speaker 3: being affected, family members being killed because they're being thrown 1585 01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:27,920 Speaker 3: into the front lines. They don't even know what to do. 1586 01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:32,080 Speaker 3: There is no training of a military whatsoever, and economic 1587 01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:39,479 Speaker 3: hardship of plenty. So the Senate on Tuesday started working 1588 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:43,640 Speaker 3: on this sanctions bill, and it's very possible it is 1589 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:48,879 Speaker 3: named for Lindsay Graham, that this was the final steps 1590 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,160 Speaker 3: in putting it together. That's what Graham was going to 1591 01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:57,160 Speaker 3: work on. And it targets Russian oil sales, very bad 1592 01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:03,679 Speaker 3: news for China. Everything always comes back to China, every 1593 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:09,240 Speaker 3: single moment, every single hour of every single day. Everything 1594 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:17,640 Speaker 3: is a move to thwart China. The series of lawmakers Blumenthal, 1595 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:21,000 Speaker 3: the guy who lied about his Vietnam service, Democratic Connecticut, 1596 01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:25,040 Speaker 3: Jarlene Graham, who is the senator replacing her brother Lindsey 1597 01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 3: Graham for the right remainder of his term. Senator Katie 1598 01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:32,839 Speaker 3: Britta of Alabama. Jeans Shahem, Democrat New Hampshire, Roger Wicker, 1599 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:36,280 Speaker 3: who's a Republican from Mississippi, and Jim rish who is 1600 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:40,479 Speaker 3: a Republican from Idaho, saying they've got a deal to 1601 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:44,679 Speaker 3: combine the Russia sanctions package with the sanctions on Iran. 1602 01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 3: We are proud to announce an agreement on legislation to 1603 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:52,799 Speaker 3: stop purchasers of Russian oil and gas from fueling Putin's 1604 01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:56,879 Speaker 3: Putin's Putin's war machine. Sorry about that, and to continue 1605 01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:00,639 Speaker 3: restricting the Iranian regime's ability to support terrorism and build 1606 01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:04,640 Speaker 3: its nuclear program. What I love about this statement is 1607 01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:10,160 Speaker 3: that it admits that Iran supports terrorism. Very damaging for 1608 01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,599 Speaker 3: Democrats who want to say, well, Rand never did anything 1609 01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:17,800 Speaker 3: to us. Not true, and this proves it. There's no 1610 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,439 Speaker 3: greater way, they write to honor Centertorgram's legacy than to 1611 01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:23,400 Speaker 3: move forward with this bipartisan agreement. And we look forward 1612 01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:29,320 Speaker 3: to today's vote. This is good, This is good news. Now. 1613 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:35,000 Speaker 3: We should also note that the American perception on Ukraine 1614 01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:41,280 Speaker 3: has changed incredibly. So has changed, and part of this, 1615 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:45,080 Speaker 3: one could say, well, is Trump's now willingness to work 1616 01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:48,920 Speaker 3: with Ukraine. There's also there was a weird talk that 1617 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,360 Speaker 3: maybe some Democrats are no longer so happy with Ukraine. 1618 01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:54,960 Speaker 3: Maybe they don't want to do this anymore, even though 1619 01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:59,320 Speaker 3: they were all about it a few years back. So 1620 01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:03,080 Speaker 3: they're moving with political wins. What Trump has said, and 1621 01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,839 Speaker 3: we've talked about this before, is that you see Ukraine 1622 01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,840 Speaker 3: learning how to handle itself. You see Ukraine building out 1623 01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,080 Speaker 3: this this drone capability, and they prove themselves to be 1624 01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:15,320 Speaker 3: outrageously effective. They have seen from the dust up in 1625 01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:21,000 Speaker 3: the Oval Office to now that Zelensky has learned how 1626 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 3: to engage in actions as a leader, never mind how 1627 01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,519 Speaker 3: to appease Trump. All Right, he's wearing the sports coat 1628 01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:28,920 Speaker 3: when he visits the Oval office now right, it's not 1629 01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:32,720 Speaker 3: even a full suit, but it's close. But he understands that. 1630 01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,360 Speaker 3: What his argument is that we are taking on this 1631 01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,120 Speaker 3: aggressor that's a threat to the world into Western civilization, 1632 01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,160 Speaker 3: and we are happy to take it on. We're not 1633 01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:45,040 Speaker 3: looking for a handout. We are looking for assistance to 1634 01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,519 Speaker 3: allow us to do the job of taking on this 1635 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,360 Speaker 3: fight for you, which is what I believe he learned 1636 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:56,880 Speaker 3: from the Israelis. And that argument works because one could argue, 1637 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,719 Speaker 3: if you don't want to give up American blood better 1638 01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,840 Speaker 3: there than ours. And you say to me, Tony, that's cold. 1639 01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,719 Speaker 3: I'm also saying to you that is how it's viewed. 1640 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,760 Speaker 3: And also I didn't say anything that you wouldn't say 1641 01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:12,400 Speaker 3: to yourself in the deep dark recesses of your mind. Yeah, 1642 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,240 Speaker 3: that is right. They're the ones that are in this fight. 1643 01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,439 Speaker 3: They have to actually be in it, and they've shown 1644 01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,280 Speaker 3: they can be in it. And so this has changed. 1645 01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,400 Speaker 3: But the sanctions package, I can't wait to dig in. 1646 01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:27,320 Speaker 3: If it's including Iran, and it amidst that Iran as terrorists, 1647 01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,880 Speaker 3: it's a double hit for the left. Even though we've 1648 01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,720 Speaker 3: got some Democrats in here with this bipartisan agreement, Can 1649 01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:35,960 Speaker 3: the left bring themselves to vote for this because it's 1650 01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,880 Speaker 3: the admission that taking on the terrorist regime of Iran 1651 01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:42,400 Speaker 3: and ending them is the right thing to do, and 1652 01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:47,599 Speaker 3: more sanctions prove the point. Interesting stuff, keep it here. 1653 01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,720 Speaker 3: This is Tony Kats today. So it should be an 1654 01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:54,599 Speaker 3: interesting weekend because I assume nothing's going to happen until 1655 01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:58,839 Speaker 3: the weekend. With President Trump saying he's gonna hit Iran 1656 01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:02,400 Speaker 3: hard for sending missiles at US bases and Jordan and 1657 01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,840 Speaker 3: other places. Tony Katz Tony Katz today a pleasure. I mean, 1658 01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:08,759 Speaker 3: the Dow at one moment was down eight hundred points 1659 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,960 Speaker 3: today because of this. That, And of course they're waiting 1660 01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:15,600 Speaker 3: on a decision from the Fed. And yet somehow, with 1661 01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:19,160 Speaker 3: the possibility of re engagement with Iran, the big story 1662 01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,600 Speaker 3: is Anthony Fauci. Well, I shouldn't say somehow it's not 1663 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:27,519 Speaker 3: surprising Anthony Fauci saying he's not going to testify. He's 1664 01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:31,240 Speaker 3: there in front of this Senate committee. He absolutely refuses 1665 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:36,240 Speaker 3: to testify, refuses to do it, pleading the fifth every 1666 01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,600 Speaker 3: step of the way, and it led to some interesting 1667 01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,599 Speaker 3: responses from senators like Bernie Moreno of Ohio. 1668 01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:45,160 Speaker 2: It was about six years ago today that I decided 1669 01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to give up my businesses, sell them all, 1670 01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,360 Speaker 2: run for office, run for the United States Senate. Here 1671 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,800 Speaker 2: I am sitting in front of you, six years later, saying, 1672 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,920 Speaker 2: who the fuck do you think you were for doing that? 1673 01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,439 Speaker 2: It is a total disgrace what you did to this country. 1674 01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,400 Speaker 2: And if my Democrat colleagues are standing there defending you, 1675 01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,960 Speaker 2: I hope the voters the United States of America watched 1676 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:13,240 Speaker 2: the clips of every one of you doting on a 1677 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:17,479 Speaker 2: guy who was more interested in being a celebrity than 1678 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:23,280 Speaker 2: saving American people. I will make it my mission to 1679 01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:27,240 Speaker 2: make certain that every single one of those republic Democrats 1680 01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:31,719 Speaker 2: who did that, we'll see that clip over and over 1681 01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:37,400 Speaker 2: and over again, because defending there is no defense of 1682 01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:38,120 Speaker 2: what you did. 1683 01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:43,400 Speaker 3: You may have had a fifty. 1684 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:47,280 Speaker 2: Plus year legacy of public service, but it ends in 1685 01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,320 Speaker 2: total and complete disgrace. 1686 01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,360 Speaker 3: I think he's speaking for a lot of people right there. 1687 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:57,240 Speaker 3: Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. Tomorrow, everyone take 1688 01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:57,439 Speaker 3: care 1689 01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,120 Speaker 8: In a NAT