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Speaker 2: When we talk about sending money somewhere, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: And Casey, my government would never lie to me, would they? A?

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Speaker 2: The Maduro Venezuela stuff is fascinating, and I keep coming

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Speaker 1: On one end, they know they'd look completely.

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous if they say anything other then it's great, this

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Speaker 1: He was a total minutes to society.

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Speaker 2: But then on the other end, how do they do

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Speaker 2: never gonna happen. Ninety three WIBC. It's Keneley Casey show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Robbie that Hatcher's in for a case. You can

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Speaker 2: hear him Saturday nights on this circle. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: that just a second. But first, Jim Jordan, of course,

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Speaker 3: Do you support putting American boots on the ground in

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Speaker 1: We trust him.

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Speaker 2: This is the major problem the Republicans have. The Democrats

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Speaker 6: Is going to be some posturing that occurs when a

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Speaker 6: Now, on top of all that, right, Maduro is sitting

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Speaker 6: Of course there's gonna be some posturing, not giving anything away.

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Speaker 1: Of the United States. Okay, And I want to be

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Speaker 2: He seems to say they Venezuela ultimately going to do

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Speaker 4: You know, they are of course beholden to us because

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Speaker 2: When we come back, there is a bill that has

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Speaker 2: So there's a new bill that could change the way

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Speaker 1: Nathan Gotchi is the what.

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Speaker 2: Are you the executive director of the head Honcho Independent

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Speaker 2: Indiana and this is a new group. They're doing a

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you were on.

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Speaker 2: I was obviously off for nine months, and so while

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Speaker 8: You Aamus Kendall sabbatical, that's right, Yes, every.

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Speaker 2: Year in December, right, we kept State House Happenings going.

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Speaker 2: people really aren't enamored with either Democrat or Republican choices.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's Indiana. They feel they got to pick when

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what we found is the number of who's your

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Speaker 7: The Indiana Democratic Party favorable number was twenty five percent.

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Speaker 8: And so when we ask them about straight ticket.

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Speaker 7: It's actually not very common anymore because what we found

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Speaker 7: And maybe there's somebody who's running in this race that

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Speaker 7: so that we think it's a bad thing. Twenty six

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Speaker 2: Okay, So again, Nathan Gotch is our guest. He's the

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Speaker 2: is probably for you more so than our esteemed guest,

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Speaker 2: it takes two minutes work through your ballot. The idea

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Speaker 4: The reason why straight ticket voting has been abhorrent, mostly

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Speaker 4: it leads to uncompetitive elections. I think It's part of

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Speaker 8: Okay, so can I have one thing?

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Speaker 1: You sure can? You're the guest.

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Speaker 8: So one of the things that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: By the way, most people even ask these just pop in.

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Speaker 7: So we actually have a real problem in our state

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Speaker 7: that is straight ticket voting does not count in all races.

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Speaker 7: Most people go in, they vote straight ticket, and then

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Speaker 7: they walk out. Straight ticket votes do not apply in

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Speaker 7: who would you like to win? That's not their chosen cannon.

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Speaker 7: But because they think straight ticket voting applies to everything,

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Speaker 7: you're seeing skewed results in those at large races, and

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Speaker 2: And that's actually a great point, especially this year now

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Speaker 2: where the school board races where people for the first

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Speaker 2: time can declare a party affiliation. People may make the

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Speaker 2: there could be nine Republicans running in the school board races.

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Speaker 2: You have to work through the ballot, and you're right,

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Speaker 2: like it's the same thing with referendum questions all these

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Speaker 2: other things. If you straight ticket vote and leave, there's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a thing that people in politics understand, but

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Speaker 7: most regular Hoosiers don't. And that's why we're so excited

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Speaker 7: that State Representative Ed Clear has filed this bill. It's

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Speaker 7: This is not one of those sort of very kind

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Speaker 7: Google call my Indiana state representative.

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Speaker 8: Oh, it's not easy to get the.

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Speaker 7: Number, but the number if you happen to be I

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Speaker 2: All right, HB twelve eighteen, it's the in straight ticket

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Speaker 2: voting bill. And slowly give the phone number for the

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Speaker 2: nine people sitting at home with their pins.

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Speaker 7: It's eight hundred three eight two nine eight four to two.

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Speaker 7: But again, you can just Google call my Indiana State reports.

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Speaker 2: For a little effort into this, right, it's your listener.

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Speaker 2: That means you got put little effort in well, and.

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Speaker 4: You can't discount how valuable it is when voters, especially

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Speaker 4: especially when they start getting the handwritten letters and they

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Speaker 7: Then, log your calls, and they really do matter, especially

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Speaker 7: on an issue like this.

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Speaker 2: Except for when I call. But everybody else, Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: probably got Rob's number.

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Speaker 7: I think may have been blocked by the switchboard. But

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Speaker 7: everybody else, Yes, it really matters.

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Speaker 1: They ignore rob suggestions in the order that they receive.

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Speaker 1: That's right now.

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Speaker 8: One thing that's Rob, If you came out against them,

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Speaker 8: I think it might be.

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Speaker 2: The best thing for you guys. Should should I go speak?

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Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna do that and redistricting. I

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Speaker 8: That's why the way they did.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what because they listen to my speech.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the things that's interesting though, is we

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Speaker 2: what a cesspool Marion County is. Ethan and the irony

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Speaker 2: That was what the redistricting was all about, and the

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Speaker 2: how overwhelmingly the Democrats clean up on straight ticket voting

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Speaker 2: one of the fastest ways to at least start that

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Speaker 4: And it's been disgusting that the Republicans have offered up

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Speaker 2: All right, Nathan gotch Independent, Indiana's our guest. Couple minutes

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Speaker 2: poll that you guys did. Did you guys get into

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Speaker 1: Did you do it a deep dive?

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Speaker 7: So we did do some favorable and favor. Now this

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Speaker 7: But Governor Braun not very popular.

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Speaker 2: Now no, wait, wait, you can't just say Broun's unpopular.

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Speaker 2: Diego's unpopular. Not tell us how unpopular. That's we are

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Speaker 2: the shower. We rub it in if we get good.

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Speaker 1: Information, so like like how unpopular we talk?

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Speaker 7: I mean again, this is before redistricting. But Mike Braun

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Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, twenty four percent favorable, what's the

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Speaker 8: He is what they call him the business underwater.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very much, he is. He is.

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Speaker 2: He has been on the Titanic level of underwater at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and how bad is Diego doing?

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Speaker 7: Please tell us about Thako was at five percent favorable

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Speaker 2: So that means what I've tried to do the math there,

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Speaker 2: that means he spent h basically four years three years

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Speaker 2: it's a twenty four seven campaign machine, and only twenty

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Speaker 7: Well, No, fifty seven percent of who's your voters had

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, you got to try to be that bad,

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Speaker 2: all right? So what's next for you guys? Because I

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Speaker 2: I think you've made an impact. What are you guys

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Speaker 2: Because I'm with you, guys. I think the more independent

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Speaker 1: What's next for you guys?

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Speaker 7: So our first focus is getting this bill HB twelve

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Speaker 7: there is actually a lot of support from Republicans and

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Speaker 7: word that in the last two election cycles, nearly two

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Speaker 7: hundred and fifty independent candidates ran across the state in

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Speaker 7: partisan races, and fifty two percent of them won their elections.

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Speaker 1: I think that's important.

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Speaker 2: You have over what one hundred and well of one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five independent.

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Speaker 7: Twenty seven and they're winning for mayor, for city and

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Speaker 7: town council, for clerk treasure but they're also starting to

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Speaker 7: run for offices like state legislature, county wide offices and

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Speaker 7: that kind of thing. And so just raising the awareness

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Speaker 7: that there is another option. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 7: people don't realize that you need to have voted in

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Speaker 7: two primaries for the party whose primary you want.

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Speaker 8: To run in.

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Speaker 7: We've got the filing deadline opening in just a couple

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Speaker 7: of days. But in our research, we believe that nearly

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Speaker 7: four out of five Hoosiers would not qualify to run

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Speaker 7: as either a Republican or a Democrat based on their

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Speaker 7: primary voting race or history. And that's part of a

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Speaker 7: report that we put out in the middle of December.

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Speaker 7: You can go to our website Independent Indiana dot org

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Speaker 7: and download the study. It's sixty pages of really deep

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Speaker 7: analysis of where our state is at. And we also

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Speaker 7: talk to Republican and Democratic state legislators mayors who told

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Speaker 7: us anonymously the real situations inside their party and how

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Speaker 7: much they're struggling to be able to get things going

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Speaker 7: and move move Indiana in a positive.

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Speaker 4: Earth's that's how they were able to put the screws

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Speaker 4: to John Rust.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well here's what we got to do, Ethan. I

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Speaker 2: thought this through, and great things always happen on the fly.

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Speaker 2: You and I got to go testify on this bill,

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Speaker 2: and we'll just take opposite sides. Now, we want this

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Speaker 2: thing to pass. This ban straight ticket voting. So I'll

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Speaker 2: take the against, I'll take the I'll take the four,

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Speaker 2: and you take the against, and we can debate each

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Speaker 2: other like we'll go back to back and then I'll

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Speaker 2: just like say horrific things about you after you go first.

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Speaker 1: You do that for free, anyway, So that sounds good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you need me to take the you want me

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Speaker 1: to take the against, right.

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Speaker 7: I think the best way to get a hearing for

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Speaker 7: the bill is for you guys to promise to do

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Speaker 7: that but on the radio instead of in the hearing,

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Speaker 7: and don't go testifying the hearing.

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Speaker 1: I'm so confused.

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Speaker 2: I gontave know what side you need me to be

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Speaker 2: on to try to get this. For whatever you need

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Speaker 2: me to do, I'll do. Nathan Gotch Indiana Independent, Indiana

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Speaker 2: dot org, Independent Indiana dot org.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Kennel A. Casey Show, ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I found this clip of Bill Maher

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's perfect.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a couple of months old now, but

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Speaker 2: it's too good not to play. It's Kenel and Casey Show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Rob Casey's out Ethan at your in for Casey again.

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Speaker 2: We'd be remiss if we didn't point out the fabulous

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Speaker 2: job Kurt Gerald's has done producing today a real rock

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Speaker 2: star amongst amongst the group. Okay, so Bill Maher obviously

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Speaker 2: longtime talk show host, HBO commentator, you know who he is, right,

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Speaker 2: But then this clip I went back and had to

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Speaker 2: look because I was like, I don't think this is

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Speaker 2: right now? Is in the I was in the either

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Speaker 2: ever do this where you just start looking for one

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Speaker 2: thing and end up in the the Internet rabbit hole

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Speaker 2: and you're.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you get you follow the trail of the algorithm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't even know where you're at someone and

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Speaker 2: I saw this, I thought, Okay, I don't think this

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Speaker 2: is brand new, but I don't think it's that old.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't going to play something from like ten years ago.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you didn't even have to tell people, because

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Speaker 4: if you've heard it for the first time, then it's

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Speaker 4: relevant and timely.

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Speaker 2: We like to be transparent with the audience, So I

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Speaker 2: think this is from the end of September, and you'll

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Speaker 2: love the slew thing that I did. I was looking

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Speaker 2: at the you know, when mar does his monologues or whatever,

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Speaker 2: he's got guests that are sitting there, and I saw

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Speaker 2: Nancy Mace was sitting there. So I just simply googled

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Speaker 2: when was Nancy Mace on Bill Maher And I believe

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Speaker 2: this was the end of September, So it's timely, right,

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Speaker 2: It's not like it's old. But anyway, he's talking about

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Speaker 2: the Democrats and how they're killing themselves with insanity, and

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Speaker 2: it's what we say on this show all the time, right, like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I desperately want the Democrats to get their

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Speaker 2: act together, not because I agree with them. I don't

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Speaker 2: agree with a lot of their policies, probably most of

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Speaker 2: their policies, but it does really want them to.

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Speaker 1: Put normal people forward who.

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Speaker 2: Behave in a professional business like manner and espouse views

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Speaker 2: that somewhat are in alignment with the mainstream of our society.

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Speaker 2: Because the Democrats being so unelectable is making the Republicans

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Speaker 2: so awful. The Republicans recognize no matter what they do,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna get elected in most places because the Democrats

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Speaker 2: are so bad, and mar is basically saying the same thing, Kurt,

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Speaker 2: I hope you beep this.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen.

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Speaker 9: If we are ever going to get back to the

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Speaker 9: old America, that's got to be the Democrats part of

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Speaker 9: the bargain. Stop coming up with radically new and often

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Speaker 9: terrible ideas. And then then the next breath insists there'd

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Speaker 9: be no debate about any of it. That if you

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Speaker 9: don't see it right away and go along, you're bad, stupid,

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Speaker 9: and deplorable, as if you were saying, duh, twopless two

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Speaker 9: equals five is not obvious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's obvious. You can't add.

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Speaker 9: You can't just say it. Math is racist. Time, looting

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Speaker 9: is cool healthy at any weight. If the men's football

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Speaker 9: team played the women's team, it would be a tie.

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Speaker 9: You can't just say.

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Speaker 2: Great job, Kurt, never a doubt that he would get

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Speaker 2: all those bleeped properly. He's right, Ethan. The Democrats make

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Speaker 2: people not want to vote for them. We just had

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Speaker 2: Nathan Gotch from Independent Indiana on and I have no

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Speaker 2: doubt that pulling is accurate. Then only thirty three percent

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Speaker 2: of the people have a positive view of the Republicans.

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Speaker 2: But then when you get to the Democrats, it's way worse.

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Speaker 2: So they have to vote for the Republicans because the

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Speaker 2: Democrats give them no other option.

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Speaker 4: Collectively, on this station and in the voting public, we

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Speaker 4: are all the mother character from that movie The Baba

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Speaker 4: Duke that came out a few years ago, screaming at

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Speaker 4: the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Why can't you just be normal? That's all we're asking,

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Speaker 1: just be normal.

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Speaker 2: And this is actually playing out in real time, and

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be fascinating because the Democrats have a real

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Speaker 2: opportunity for the first time in more than a decade,

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Speaker 2: to win a state wide office. Diego Morales is about

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Speaker 2: as bad of a candidate as you could possibly have

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Speaker 2: the incumbent Secretary of State, if ever a Republican was

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Speaker 2: going to be beatable in this state, it is the

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Speaker 2: secretary of State's race. And look, is bo Bai a

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Speaker 2: perfect candidate. No, he's certainly gonna have some issues with

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Speaker 2: being called a carpetbagger, and he doesn't live here, and

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Speaker 2: he was born with the silver spooners a bout all

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Speaker 2: those things, and he's gonna have to figure out how

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Speaker 2: to deal with that.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of a name and a normal person.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't know if you can

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Speaker 2: hear that, they're drilling on the first floor and they

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Speaker 2: decided to do it apparently right under this program. So

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Speaker 2: that's not distracting at all. Thanks to those guys for

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Speaker 2: doing that. But my point is that you've got it.

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Speaker 2: You've got the best kiddate you're possibly going to have.

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Speaker 2: In the case of bo Bai running for Secretary of State.

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Speaker 2: He's got the name, he's got the look, he's got

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Speaker 2: the pedigree, he's he's a he comes off well, and

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Speaker 2: he's raising a gajillion dollars and yet the Democrats are

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Speaker 2: still a fraction of the Democrat Party going nah, no, thanks.

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Speaker 2: There's this leftist woman who's running and she's raising big

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Speaker 2: money too.

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Speaker 4: Bobai is certainly doing his level best as well as

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Speaker 4: he can to appear like a normal candidate. He's even

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Speaker 4: wearing the sports getball shirts and he says, look, I

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Speaker 4: am a man of the people.

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Speaker 1: I support the sports too.

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Speaker 4: It's going to throw a real wrench in the operation

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Speaker 4: if Diego happens to be voted out at convention, because

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Speaker 4: I agree that as long as he is the headline candidate,

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Speaker 4: this gives Democrats their best shot to obtain elected office

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Speaker 4: in the state of Indiana, state wide elected office.

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Speaker 2: All Right, speaking to Mar Tim Allen was on with him.

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Speaker 2: Now Mar has the HBO show. But then he's also

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Speaker 2: got like this podcasting type of thing where he's just

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Speaker 2: sitting sipping some looks like bourbon, and I think occasionally

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Speaker 2: they're smoking some weed and like all sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And he just has famous people on and he sits

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Speaker 2: there and interviews with them and Tim Allen, famous actor

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Speaker 2: to you a home improvement and then the toy story,

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Speaker 2: and you know, he's done a million different things. He

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Speaker 2: tells this incredible story about and I've never heard this

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Speaker 2: before how he had this meeting with Trump, and he

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Speaker 2: claims Trump almost became a movie producer instead of running

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Speaker 2: for president.

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Speaker 1: I met the.

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Speaker 10: Dude at dinner with his wife, who was genuinely a

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Speaker 10: wonderful person, and he was more This is I think

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Speaker 10: the second to last year, the last year of the Apprentice,

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Speaker 10: and he was thinking of moving to Los Angeles and

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Speaker 10: being a movie producer. And he was talking about movies,

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Speaker 10: he said, he said, I really liked the film business

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Speaker 10: more than that. The guys addicted the comedy he was.

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Speaker 10: So I was killing at the table, you know, and

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Speaker 10: he's going, he just what a gift, What a gift

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Speaker 10: to do that. He's laughing about this and that. And

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Speaker 10: he was a genuine one of the guys with I

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Speaker 10: don't know if he was. He sits and talks like that.

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Speaker 10: When he listens, he he's a good listener. He's a

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Speaker 10: good listen.

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Speaker 9: This is what the left hated me that I went

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Speaker 9: to the White House and talk funny and then did

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Speaker 9: not lie.

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Speaker 1: I'd say I heard a monster in the just said

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Speaker 1: the truth. He's not it.

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Speaker 9: You got to meet him, You've got to deal with

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Speaker 9: him on a personal level.

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Speaker 2: As someone who has met Trump in person? Did you

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Speaker 2: know I once interviewed the president anything? It was a

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Speaker 2: great dream. As I've been told numerous tis by you.

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Speaker 1: His words, not yeah, you just repeat it.

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Speaker 2: Look, you have to take that up with him if

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Speaker 2: you have any sort of dispute he is. He's incredibly

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Speaker 2: charming in person, Like why does he only do it

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Speaker 2: when the cameras are off? Well, this is one of

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Speaker 2: the things that I said to him after we were done.

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Speaker 2: I said, if more people saw No this was twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: obviously he was before he was even president, but I said,

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Speaker 2: if more people saw this side of you.

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Speaker 1: And I've told this story about.

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Speaker 2: How when you interview and I'm sure it's probably still

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Speaker 2: the same way, but when you interview Trump, it's very scripted, right,

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Speaker 2: Like it's not just hey, take as long as you want.

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Speaker 2: It's very down to the second because he's got stuff

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Speaker 2: going on all day. And the day I was interviewing

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Speaker 2: at the JW marriyout here downtown and it was I

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Speaker 2: was the only radio guy, and then there were a

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Speaker 2: couple of local TV and then I think Fox News

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Speaker 2: and Daily Mail. I think we're the other people that

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Speaker 2: he was doing stuff with before his events and they're

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Speaker 2: very strict.

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Speaker 1: They said, you have ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: To do this interview, and if you're not done in

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Speaker 2: ten minutes, we're going to give you a thirty second signal.

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Speaker 2: If he ain't done, we're going to start on plugging

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Speaker 2: your equipment for you. So I'm very cognisz of this.

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Speaker 2: Get the signal, hit the thing on the boom. Done.

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Speaker 2: And he keeps talking after the interview, and this poor

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Speaker 2: lady who's in charge of handling him is like giving

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Speaker 2: me the cutthroat sign and I'm looking at her, going,

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Speaker 2: I'm not stopping this. If he doesn't want to stop talking,

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Speaker 2: you take it up with him. He's the boss. And

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Speaker 2: he was incredibly kind and he was very charming, and

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Speaker 2: I told him that, I said, if more people saw

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Speaker 2: this side of you, people saw the side different from

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Speaker 2: Twitter or different from the you know, the bombastic interviews,

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Speaker 2: they would have an incredibly different opinion. And I just

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Speaker 2: I don't think he has the ability to let people

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Speaker 2: consistently see that. I don't think he I just don't

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Speaker 2: think it's in his DNA. I think he gets charged

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Speaker 2: out of conflict. I think he's certain people are wired

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Speaker 2: that way, myself being one of them who get a

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Speaker 2: charge out of conflict, like they get fired up about

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Speaker 2: a fight, and he obviously believes all of these fights

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Speaker 2: are worth having. And I just don't think he has

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Speaker 2: the capability of doing that, which is too bad, because there.

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Speaker 1: Is a side of him that's just amazing. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think he's taking a page out of a Jesse Ventura's.

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Speaker 4: Playbook, where it's that that dash, or in the case

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Speaker 4: of Donald Trump, a metric heap ton of a bravado

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Speaker 4: that he sprinkles into everything he does as part of

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Speaker 4: the showmanship. And as somebody who is an avid fan

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Speaker 4: of wrestling that I believe Trump is, of of course

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Speaker 4: he's goin to take some cues from that type of demeanor.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: we have some audio Jimmy Kimmel. This will shock you, Ethan.

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Speaker 2: He was being completely ridiculous and we have to we

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Speaker 2: have to play this for everyone because we have to

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Speaker 2: point out how ridiculous this guy is. Kennell and Casey

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Speaker 2: Show ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: All right, so Jimmy Kimmel was being completely ridiculous the

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Speaker 1: other day. Well, we got to play this because.

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Speaker 2: It you know, while you have to suffer through hearing

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel speak. It reminds you of how self absorbed

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Speaker 2: these people actually are.

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Speaker 4: And was this the clip of him giving the Christmas

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Speaker 4: Address to the United Kingdom and being a complete tool?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 2: No, this was him at the Critics Choice Award. I

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Speaker 2: don't even though that was still around. Now, help me

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Speaker 2: remember this. So Jimmy Kimmel got suspended and they thought

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Speaker 2: the show was going to be over, and then they

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Speaker 2: decided to no, we just suspended. No, bring it back

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Speaker 2: because he made inappropriate, insufferable comments after the death of

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk correct correct related to how Donald Trump handled

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Speaker 2: the death of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: And I mean many people were amazed that he was.

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Speaker 2: Actually brought back because many of the affiliates ABC affiliates

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Speaker 2: boycotted the program. I said, we're not running it, and

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Speaker 2: the affiliates the network was like, well, if we got

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Speaker 2: major markets not running the show, we can't make money

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Speaker 2: on selling ads on the show. And so they had

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Speaker 2: to pull him off the show.

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Speaker 4: He got so slapped on the wrist. I think he

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Speaker 4: was off for all of what was at three days,

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Speaker 4: and then he was back next week doing the same thing. Well,

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Speaker 4: it made that very insincere apology. I'm sorry that you

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Speaker 4: interpreted my words correctly type deal.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and then of course you know he got

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Speaker 2: You're right next to no punished. But he's right back

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Speaker 2: to being the rotten, disgusting person that he is, and

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Speaker 2: he somehow found a way. I didn't think it was

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Speaker 2: possible to be more unlikable. Listen to him after I

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Speaker 2: guess he won an award at the Critics Choice Awards.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know they were still a thing or

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Speaker 2: around or whatever. But he turns listen now, he turns

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Speaker 2: himself into the victim or we're getting kicked off TV

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Speaker 2: for being an a hole.

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Speaker 1: I think that.

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Speaker 11: It's It's interesting. It was almost a near death experience

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Speaker 11: for me, and you know, of course not literally, but

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Speaker 11: I did feel a little bit like Tom Sawyer and

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Speaker 11: Huck Finn watching their own funeral.

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Speaker 1: All this stuff.

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Speaker 11: Happened, and to be here and to see that people

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Speaker 11: reacted to it in a not just a positive way,

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Speaker 11: but in almost a desperate way. Or like oh boy,

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Speaker 11: when they come after the comedians, this is more one.

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Speaker 11: We draw the line and they know we're very grateful

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Speaker 11: that they threw the line at us.

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Speaker 2: So it's the numbers are rotten. People didn't want him

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Speaker 2: back for some reason, network brought him back. He did

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Speaker 2: it all to himself. It wasn't about free speech, It

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Speaker 2: was about people, as.

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Speaker 1: The left had.

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Speaker 2: Remember how many times did the left try to boycott

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Speaker 2: rush Limbaugh's sponsors and try to get him taken off

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Speaker 2: the air, and they got him suspended one time, like

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Speaker 2: this is some foreign concept that hasn't happened before. No,

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Speaker 2: the guy said something egregious, said something ridiculously stupid, and

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Speaker 2: the network made a decision based on the response from

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Speaker 2: their affiliates, who are essentially making a response from their

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Speaker 2: advertisers and their sponsors and their listeners. And this guy

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Speaker 2: equates it to a near death experience.

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Speaker 4: It shows you what a good old boys club leftist

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Speaker 4: media is that somebody can essentially fail upwards like Jimmy Kimmel,

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Speaker 4: who has paid millions of dollars to be one of

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Speaker 4: the most, if not the most, low rated late night

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Speaker 4: talk show host on broadcast television, and yet they give

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Speaker 4: him awards for this service, they pay him million dollars

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Speaker 4: for this service. He's alienating affiliates, he's alienating sponsors, and

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Speaker 4: then they choose him to be the nominee or the

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Speaker 4: winner at the Critics Choice Awards. It's ridiculous, but it

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Speaker 4: is indicative of how leftist media will circle the wagons

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Speaker 4: when you are one of them real quick.

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Speaker 2: Because Kurt went to the effort to pull this, I

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Speaker 2: think this is interesting. Steven Miller, we played him earlier

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Speaker 2: in the program. He's one of Trump's most trusted allies, aids.

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Speaker 2: You know him as the bald guy who's always on

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Speaker 2: TV Trump's number one spokesman.

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Speaker 1: Basically, he was on again. I think this was.

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Speaker 2: CNN and they asked him about Trump potentially taking control

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Speaker 2: of the US taking control of Greenland. And not only

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Speaker 2: it's his response, but I'm most fascinated by the dismissive

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Speaker 2: nature of his response, like it's not even a question

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Speaker 2: of whether it should be happening, like the US taking

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Speaker 2: over our country.

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Speaker 6: Listen to this of the US government since the beginning

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Speaker 6: of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration,

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Speaker 6: that Greenland should be part of the United Stypes. The

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Speaker 6: President has been very clear about that. That is the

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Speaker 6: formal position of the US government.

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Speaker 7: Right, But can you say that military action against Greenland

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Speaker 7: is off the table.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna be in a military action against Greenland. The

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Speaker 6: Greenland has a population of thirty thousand people, Jake. The

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Speaker 6: real question is about what right does Denmark is certain

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Speaker 6: control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim?

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Speaker 6: What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony

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Speaker 6: of Denmark? The United States is the power of NATO.

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Speaker 2: Okay, for the United States. It goes on for another

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Speaker 2: minute or so, We're not gonna have time to get

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Speaker 2: to it. But I just found that fascinating Ethan, that

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Speaker 2: he's like, well, they have it, but what right do

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Speaker 2: they have it?

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Speaker 1: If we want it, we'll just take it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's pretty much what we've done in Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: So in a way I see his point, Ethan. A

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Speaker 4: great job today. Thank you as always Kurt Gerald's. You're

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Speaker 4: phenomenal in a rock star that is going to do

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Speaker 4: it for us today. Thank you to you the listener.

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Speaker 4: You are the most important part of all this. It's

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Speaker 4: the year of the Listener. Without you, there is no

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Speaker 4: US stick around. Tony Gatz coming up next freet the

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Speaker 4: Hatcher for Kurt Geralds. I'm Rob Kendall, You've been listening

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