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Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard. Yeah, there were some

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Speaker 2: Now, you don't know specifically what they talked about. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and probably a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: And nothing says transparency like shutting the door on reporters,

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Speaker 1: What's going on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: But luckily we got guys, Yes, we do, all across

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Speaker 2: We got guys in One of our guys he writes

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Speaker 2: His name is Adam Wren. He joins us now, Adam Wren, Hello.

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Speaker 4: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's start with you had two interesting

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Speaker 2: pieces yesterday in Politico related to this. First of all,

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Speaker 2: before we get to what might have happened yesterday, Mitch

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Speaker 2: Tell us about your piece in Politico involving Mitch Daniels.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, essentially as all of this started

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Speaker 5: You know, Braun started talking with a leadership on the

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Speaker 5: We talked. He was pretty frank and pretty candid that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I do think that's correct. And Mitch

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Speaker 5: Well you heard Mike bron start to do that yesterday

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Speaker 2: Okay, if people want to find you, Adam, read your stuff,

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Speaker 2: whether it's Importantville, Politico, all the work you do, how

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you'se places to go to X and find me

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Speaker 2: a risk reward thing, which is she knows if I

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Speaker 2: want to do something, I know there could be punishment

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Speaker 2: for it. But the thing I want to do, I

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Speaker 2: want to do it more than the punishment.

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Speaker 1: I like.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't understand the law. She doesn't understand that there

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Speaker 2: are limits to which you but she does know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how, but she knows.

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Speaker 2: This is the worst that's gonna happen to me, and

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Speaker 2: I want to do that thing more than the worst

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Speaker 2: that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It's worth it.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Kennel and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So our guy Indie reporter helped us out on

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Speaker 2: this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well somebody tagged Indie reporter and also Governor Mike

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Speaker 3: Brawn and you and I in a picture of what

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Speaker 3: is called a flock camera.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So for those of you try to figure out

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Speaker 2: it's the first of all, it's the Kennel and Casey show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Rob that's Casey.

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Speaker 2: When we mentioned there is an account that we are

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Speaker 2: fond of that does a ton of research on Indiana,

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Speaker 2: politics and government. It's Indie Reporter at Indie Underscore Reporter Underscore.

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Speaker 2: If you're on Twitter, is the account Steven Whitmer and

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Speaker 2: a group of other people run that account, and we

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Speaker 2: reference that account, you know, quite a bit on this

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Speaker 2: on program. They do phenomenal work. If you're at all

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Speaker 2: interested in Indiana politics and government. They don't, they don't.

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Speaker 2: They do it all free. They're just citizen journalists and

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Speaker 2: they do it for coupons for our piece, coupons on

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Speaker 2: their on their spare time. So anytime there's something involving

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Speaker 2: in the city of Indianapolis or anything, if we're not aware,

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Speaker 2: I will send Steven a message and say, hey, what

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Speaker 2: do you know about this? And there's these what are

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Speaker 2: They're like the camera's on a pole, right, They're popping

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Speaker 2: up all over the place. And we were like, what

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Speaker 2: are these? And he said, oh, yeah, that's simple. They're

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Speaker 2: called flock cameras, right, Is that what they are?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they're called.

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Speaker 3: And I guess what they can pull footage off of

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Speaker 3: these cameras.

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Speaker 2: Think they're designed to read license plates. I think that's

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Speaker 2: the premise of them, is that they can look identify

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Speaker 2: automobiles in particular license plates, so that if there is

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Speaker 2: a crime that's committed, they're trying to track down if

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Speaker 2: somebody was at a certain location at a certain time.

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Speaker 2: It makes it easier on the law enforcement to be

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Speaker 2: able to get that information.

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Speaker 3: And they're solar powered, which is why they have that little, yeah,

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Speaker 3: flat panel.

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Speaker 1: You've probably seen these. I don't, or maybe you.

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Speaker 4: Haven't seen them and you've driven right by.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah you didn't, just didn't know what they were.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. Yeah, but I think they're outside

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Speaker 1: of Indianapolis now too.

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Speaker 2: I think the people are reporting them all over the state,

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Speaker 2: in all over in other locations. Now, there's a theory,

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Speaker 2: do we do tinfoil hat? If I camera here, I'd say,

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Speaker 2: pssed me that tinfoil hat. There's a theory that the

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Speaker 2: reason they went to the specialty the black license played

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Speaker 2: with the white lettering is they'll be easier to read

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Speaker 2: with the flock with the flock cameras.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I wonder is this something that like they're

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Speaker 3: monitoring people's speed and they could be giving tickets with these.

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Speaker 1: Or I'm sure it's not for our benefit. Sure it's

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Speaker 1: not for us.

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Speaker 2: You don't think so search out so they can just

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Speaker 2: give us away to some fabulous prize. Somebody in the

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Speaker 2: Brandon and the YouTube chat said the flock cameras have

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Speaker 2: been in Indiana for ten years minimum.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but I mean they must.

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Speaker 2: Be enhancing in stature because people or in number, because

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Speaker 2: people are noticing them more often now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And somebody else is saying that they've been used

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Speaker 3: on college campuses for a long time.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing, Casey, Well, you know I've you know,

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Speaker 2: I love the stories, and one of the stories I'm

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Speaker 2: into now.

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Speaker 1: I think this show's been around for a while. It's

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Speaker 1: on Hulu.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Speaking of Hulu, I've been watching the

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Speaker 2: Hulu because that Delphi documentary.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch it on the Hulu?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not away through it, but our guy, Doug Carter,

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Speaker 2: the former State Police superintendent, is all over that documentary.

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Speaker 2: He's coming in Tuesday and to talk about Delphi, and

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Speaker 2: he's going to lay out some interesting things that I

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Speaker 2: don't think a lot of people knew about Delphi. It'll

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Speaker 2: be fascinating to get Doug's thoughts on on Delphi. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: maybe nobody more familiar with the case than him, but.

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Speaker 1: On Hulu.

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Speaker 2: There is a program I think it's an older program now,

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Speaker 2: but it's about how they use Boy, isn't this timely

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Speaker 2: digital forensics to solve crimes? And the general theme is

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Speaker 2: how stupid the public at large with their digital device

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Speaker 2: and they always think they've outsmarted the authorities with whatever

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Speaker 2: manipulation they've done with their digital device, and then they end.

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Speaker 1: Up catching the people.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's my new thing that I'm watching on

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Speaker 2: the on the Hulu. And I got into this because

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Speaker 2: the digital right whatever, they're taking pictures and doing this,

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Speaker 2: and it's amazing all the things that are being monitored now.

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Speaker 1: It's very hard.

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Speaker 2: You've got to really be a top flight criminal to

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Speaker 2: pull off anything in the public at large in the

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Speaker 2: modern era.

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Speaker 4: Have you been watching the Delphi docuseries on Hulu as well?

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Speaker 4: I just answered that you got halfway through. Has it

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Speaker 4: changed your mind about anything?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: I just made it to the point where they introduced

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Speaker 2: the wife of Richard Allen. It's so weird because they'll

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Speaker 2: show old timey photos of old timing, like eighteen hundreds,

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Speaker 2: but like Richard Allen, I don't know, he's in his fifties.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be nineties or late eighties or whatever,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, looks like just a totally normal dude

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Speaker 2: with this kid, And it's so weird to see this

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Speaker 2: guy who all you've seen of him are the mugshot

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Speaker 2: and the sketch drawings and whatever courtroom whatever was available,

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Speaker 2: and this like little, just lifeless guy and then you

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Speaker 2: see him in all these photos and it's like, Wow,

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Speaker 2: you don't you don't even pause to think about, like,

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Speaker 2: this dude had a totally seemingly I guess, normal life

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Speaker 2: before he was involved in all of this, either actually

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Speaker 2: involved or framed or whatever your opinion on it is.

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Speaker 1: Coming up at eleven?

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Speaker 4: Is it eleven? Josh Bain's going to join U.

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Speaker 1: Josh Baine will be with us.

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Speaker 4: One thing that we're going to ask him about.

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Speaker 2: Is, by the way, I didn't even catch up, and

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Speaker 2: he's a Republican member of the City County Council here

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, right.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things that we're going to ask

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Speaker 3: him about is how the City County Council Republicans they

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Speaker 3: want to eliminate a Marion County residency requirement.

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Speaker 4: And this is foremost city and county.

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Speaker 3: Employees, this has been going on since what nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're going to ask Josh why they're doing this,

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Speaker 2: because it comes off as and this can't be the

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Speaker 2: answer that like you're leading be able to believe the

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Speaker 2: talent pool of Marion County is so incompetent that we

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Speaker 2: can't like hire Marrion Keutty people anymore. This is actually

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Speaker 2: a common thing, you know where you'll see this. This

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Speaker 2: is actually a very common thing in school districts that

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Speaker 2: they require the teachers to.

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Speaker 4: Live in the school district.

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Speaker 1: You know why they do this case?

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Speaker 2: Why Well, if you were to have a school referendum

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Speaker 2: and only people who live in the district you can vote,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you want as many people who are going to

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Speaker 2: vote exactly as you want. Like, I know, somebody's like

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Speaker 2: snickering as I say this. I know I live and

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Speaker 2: beat a referendum in a school district where teachers were

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they still are required to live

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Speaker 2: in that school district. So that is a common thing

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Speaker 2: that I think is happening now. And like again, if

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Speaker 2: that does make sense, if your whole goal is to

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Speaker 2: be able to kind of tip the voting balance, in

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Speaker 2: one way or another.

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Speaker 1: A part of getting the job ears you got to

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Speaker 1: live in this you live in the school district.

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Speaker 3: What's been going on since nineteen seventy seven employees got

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Speaker 3: live in Marion County within six months of being hired.

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Speaker 3: There are exceptions to this, and that includes interns, firefighters,

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Speaker 3: IMPD officers, nine one one operators, and other.

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Speaker 4: Specialized skilled positions.

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Speaker 3: And one of the things they're saying is that, as

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Speaker 3: you mentioned, this would expand the recruitment pool.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it does make sense that you would want people

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Speaker 2: who are paid off of tax dollars to have skin

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Speaker 2: in the game of where they're working, right, I mean

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Speaker 2: that doesn't seem nefarious or bad the.

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Speaker 1: Idea of it.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like you you are paid by tax dollars, we

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Speaker 2: want you to have some skin in the game in

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Speaker 2: the community. Like if you're asking for money for something,

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Speaker 2: it's essentially your money you're asking for now. Like you said,

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Speaker 2: there are exemptions with law enforcement and firefighters. So like

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Speaker 2: my beloved neighbor, fireman Scott, he's a Wayne Township firefighter

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Speaker 2: and he's great at his job. You know, you would

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Speaker 2: you not want to tell somebody who is skilled in

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Speaker 2: that that asset though or skill set. Yeah, boy, you

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Speaker 2: know when it comes to life saving apparatuses or momentary

626
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Speaker 2: things where it can make a difference whether somebody lives

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Speaker 2: or dies that you know, we'd love to hire you,

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Speaker 2: but you just don't live in the in the right area.

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Speaker 2: So I would get it with that. But I think

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Speaker 2: what Josh is going to lay out here is they're

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Speaker 2: having trouble getting people period.

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Speaker 3: Well, and critics argue though that taxpayer funded salaries are

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Speaker 3: going to be leaving the city then, so they'll just

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Speaker 3: come in here to work in the sice.

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Speaker 1: Right, That's what I said.

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Speaker 2: That's the argument is that. Now, well we'll get into that, Josh. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: why don't we take a break. Hammer Hammer will have

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Speaker 2: something inspiring for us, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, it's Kendilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: He is one half of the number one rated Hammer

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Speaker 1: and Nigel Afternoon program. Here on WIBC. Jason Hammer, Hello, you, Oh,

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Speaker 2: him today, and I just it always warms my heart

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Speaker 2: to see Michael, because Michael is just an awesome, awesome dude,

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Speaker 2: Rob Kendall shirt is none of the money goes to me.

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Speaker 1: You're not helping me. I don't get any money from this.

664
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: It just goes to the provider and a.

665
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: Charity yep the the Project Rescue, which fights human sex

666
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: trafficking across the globe. Can't get any answers on EPSTEIN.

667
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: But those people are out there doing the right, doing

668
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: the work to try to prevent it from happening to

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Speaker 2: other people.

670
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: Well, that's what we.

671
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 6: Kind of talked about with Tommy Larin yesterday when she

672
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 6: called in. It's like, I know, everybody's super upset about

673
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 6: the Epstein stuff, and no matter what happens with Gallaine Maxwell,

674
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 6: let's say blank, if you do blank, if you don't right, right,

675
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 6: if you give her immunity, everybody's going to give Trump crap.

676
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 6: If you don't give her immunity, what are you trying

677
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 6: to hide? There's no win because they've botched it so

678
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 6: bad at this point. But if you're really that passionate

679
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 6: about the whole thing, then you can donate to groups

680
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 6: like Rob's because this stuff is still happening. It's not

681
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 6: a hoax yet, it's still happening.

682
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's one of the great things. Like obviously

683
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: Life Church where we attend, they partner with Project Rescue,

684
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: so technically the money I get it goes to them.

685
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: They have a special fund to set up and then

686
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 2: they acquire funds throughout the year and then give that

687
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: to that organization, so they're able to mass sort of

688
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: mass fundraise for those people who are out there and

689
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: raise a lot of money for them.

690
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: Shirts on our store. We help no one. We help nobody.

691
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 6: They all go to my pocket, which will probably go

692
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 6: to Vegas at some point.

693
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: I just want to make that perfectly clear.

694
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 6: Tank tops are now up there, Casey, you can get

695
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 6: that tank top.

696
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: What did they say?

697
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 6: Hammer and Nigel show multiple colors sizes. I noticed you

698
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 6: never wore the tank top I bought you for Christmas,

699
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 6: so I thought maybe you were waiting for a hammer

700
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 6: in Nigel I was.

701
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: I was, thank you for forgetting that.

702
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: You'll be the one person going to Las Vegas eventually,

703
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: right right?

704
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: I posted about this the other day.

705
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 6: Man, Vegas is just nickel and diming people to the

706
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 6: point to where even dudes like me are like a

707
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 6: little hesitant to go anymore. I mean, the room rates

708
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 6: are still somewhat low, but they hit you with a

709
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 6: resort for which is crap, and it's usually more than

710
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 6: your room, right, yeah, that's right. And then your food costs.

711
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 6: I mean, just it's so over the top.

712
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: It really cuts into your bank roll, doesn't it.

713
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: It does.

714
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 6: The money gambling drinks, right, that used to be a thing.

715
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 6: As long as you were gambling. They come by with

716
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 6: a free beer or something. You know, you might not

717
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 6: be able to get like a macallan or something, but

718
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 6: you could get a Miller Lite. Now it's hardly that

719
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 6: way at all. And wrong glass right right, it's a

720
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 6: it's tough man. But Vegas did that to themselves. They

721
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 6: just nickel and dimed people so much that tourism is

722
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 6: down eleven place.

723
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: It seems like they lost sight of their their customer,

724
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: their focus. I mean, it used to be a place

725
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: where anybody could go and have a good time. Right

726
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: now they're trying to be so exclusive that they're pricing

727
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: people out.

728
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 6: And normally, when you see a situation where prices go up,

729
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 6: take the airlines, for example, you see a higher class

730
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 6: of people. Right You normally don't see fights where a

731
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 6: wig is ripped off on a Delta flight. That's normally

732
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 6: a reserved for our fine friends at Spirit. Yeah, but

733
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 6: that's when we took to Vegas. I took it to

734
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 6: my last trip to I flew Spirit, had great experience.

735
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 6: But let's be honest. You know, Spirit is the waffle

736
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 6: house of the airlines.

737
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: Did you get hit in the head with the back

738
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: of peanuts?

739
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 6: But Vegas the cost of gone up, but so has

740
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 6: like the total degenerates on the strip.

741
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: Now.

742
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: I know it's sin city, but you used.

743
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 6: To not see like the fights and the shootings on

744
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 6: the strip like that kind of weed.

745
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Man is everywhere too.

746
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: And I'm fine if people want to do whatever they

747
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: want to do in their own home, you know, in case.

748
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: I've talked about this at length, and I'm fine with

749
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: that being legalized. It doesn't affect me. Do whatever you want.

750
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: I load that it is being done, and it should

751
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: never be allowed to be done in public because.

752
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: Vegas, Vegas stinks. It does.

753
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 6: You can't have that Ocean's eleven moment in front of

754
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 6: the Beilagio where you just want to like soak it.

755
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: In and you know, watch it without feeling like you're

756
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: in between Snoop and Willie Nelson, like it's so over

757
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: the top. But I'm with Rob, I'm not anti weed.

758
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: If you want to legal.

759
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 3: There, they do have dispensaries there right, but there are

760
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: states that have it legal.

761
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 6: But at least you have to do it indoors. You're

762
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 6: supposed to Vegas. It's the full on Wild West, and

763
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 6: I get it, it's sin city, but man, it's taken

764
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 6: a downward turn.

765
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: Do you bet on the pregames last night the Colts.

766
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 6: Sure I did because I'm a degenerate and I'm not

767
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 6: a parlay guy, as you know. But if you're going

768
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 6: to be a full degenerate, you have to go parlay

769
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 6: on pre season.

770
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: Why not?

771
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: Now, real quick, explain to the folks what a parlay

772
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: is who may not be sure as familiar as you

773
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: are with the betting.

774
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: Normally in sports, you would bet just one bet.

775
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 6: If you win, you win. If you lose, you lose.

776
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 6: A parlay is when you have multiple bets together. Now

777
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 6: you have to get them all right to win, but

778
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 6: the payout is much larger, so it's all or nothing.

779
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 6: We had the Ravens plus six and a half. We

780
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 6: checked that box, and we had the under last night,

781
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 6: which we did not hit. We got beat on a

782
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 6: punt return to the house that cost us.

783
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and you have said on our Degenerates next

784
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: Door Sports Betting podcast.

785
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: New episode now available College Football Futures Week one. I take.

786
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: I weigh in on whether I think not Dame will

787
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: win over under ten and a half games this year. Casey,

788
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to Purdue Bets produce, so we're checking all

789
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: your boxes. We did it's the Casey family addition of

790
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: next door right, uh, and I we're gonna.

791
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 4: Win them all, by the way, I hope you went

792
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: that way.

793
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Have you seen the schedule?

794
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 4: Well, it is Notre Dame.

795
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: They always lose this, there's always She wasn't talking about Purdue, right, Well,

796
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: exactly did we we end this conversation on this on

797
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 2: the podcast where I said every year there is one

798
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: game that notes you have to factor that in that

799
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: there's one game that they lose that You're like, how

800
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: how in the world did they.

801
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: There's always a Marshall game or something.

802
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: Well, and last year was some directional school or something

803
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: that they lost to and they almost fired the coach

804
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: and then they ran the table the rest of the season.

805
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: But how about our Notre Dame alum? Looking pretty good

806
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: in the Colts game last night.

807
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard, Eh, what game were you watching?

808
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: Eh?

809
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: Okay, did you have beer goggles on? What? What game

810
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: were you watching?

811
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 4: I'll be a homer. I'm just happy.

812
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: Bet you were the mother during sports that everybody your

813
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 2: kids scored for the wrong team.

814
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't like that, rob very competitive, Sir.

815
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 6: Miley Leonard did as exactly what we thought as we

816
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 6: broke down on the podet.

817
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

818
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: See, the thing about college football is he's fast and

819
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: he could run over people. You ain't faster. You ain't

820
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: running over people by NFL standards. And they're faster, they're bigger. Okay,

821
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: So what's his face is hurt?

822
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: Again? There's no surprise there. Just see the way that

823
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: finger was bending.

824
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson's I had that happened to me in a

825
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 6: basketball game. It doesn't really hurt, but you're like, oh,

826
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 6: that's a problem, and they pop.

827
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: It back into place, but then it swells up. It

828
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: took a couple of weeks for me to be able

829
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: to play basketball.

830
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have separated the fun fact, Rob Kendall, funback,

831
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: I've separated both of my shoulders.

832
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: Really at some point in carrying this radio station, Rob, is.

833
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 4: That what it is?

834
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: Let's see, I separated his shoulder in a basketball game,

835
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: separated again in another basketball game.

836
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: Separated to say, this is all.

837
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: The left shoulder fell out of a tree one time,

838
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: did the left shoulder three times? And then I separated

839
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 2: my right shoulder fell on a hockey rnk so Dereck

840
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: Rose So I have, like, I'm sure it's hanging on

841
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: by a.

842
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: This is like second or third date material, like will

843
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: you show me your scars?

844
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: But do you have any scars?

845
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: But uh so, But let's same thing with separating your shoulder.

846
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't hurt your arm just feels very heavy.

847
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: Then yes.

848
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: And the key is you can't panic if you can

849
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: pop it back in and you know what you're doing.

850
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: You can't panic, though you can make it much worse.

851
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: You've got to just hang there. The time I fell

852
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: out of a tree, I was in my I was

853
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: a twenty year old man who still climb trees.

854
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: I fell out of the tree at my house backwards too,

855
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: sounds right. And I was laying there like I'm here

856
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: by myself. What do I do?

857
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: What did you do?

858
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: I popped it back it. You just can't panic. There

859
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: just no panic. I was laying on the ground and

860
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: I was like, I've been through this before.

861
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 6: I went to a med check and they just popped

862
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 6: it back and then had to wear a splint. That's

863
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 6: what I learned from the first I did it.

864
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: Popped it back in myself the first time when I

865
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: was a teenager playing basketball, and they I went to

866
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: the emergency room and they're like, you are I did

867
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: all the work. There's no we're gonna do.

868
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: Go home.

869
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: And so from then on my old man saw what

870
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: it cost and was like, if that happens again, pop.

871
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: It back in.

872
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: Now you know what to do.

873
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: Mike got a hammer out. I was trying to fix it.

874
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: What do you have coming up today?

875
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 6: Don Felder, formerly of The Egress, joining the Hammer and Night.

876
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: Guess I got the big, the big, the big thing

877
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: with Kevin Cronin and then sticks.

878
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 6: So we've got him, We've got Breitbart editor in chief

879
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: Alex Marlow.

880
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: Don Felder, Yes, that's amazing. Can I just sit on

881
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: your show this lady come on in for me tonight?

882
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: Here it is right, thank you Hammer. It is Kennelly Casey.

883
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Speaker 3: It's ninety three w ib C.