1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Only the best run here of the Indianapolis five hundred Mary, who. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Do you feel we'll have to beat this year's. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 3: Rich people like A. J. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 4: Foyt and Bobby answer for us. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 5: And five fla absolutely and incredible Hanny Sullivan's fun in 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 5: front of Mario and Frondy. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 6: Hey jun. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 7: Hundred Beyond the Bricks with che Query and Mike Thompson 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 7: brought to you by Quality Supply and Tool Think outside 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 7: the box Store on ninety three five and one oh 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 7: seven five the fan. 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 8: Hey, good evening to you. Jay Quarry along with Mike Thompson. 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 8: Landon Kuns is the man that is putting everything together 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 8: here on Beyond the Bricks. Our look at the personalities, 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 8: the names, the storylines of the history of the Indianapolis 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 8: Motor Speedway, and of course primarily this show, especially if 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 8: you're listen to podcasts, form the vast majority of those 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 8: episodes with which you would be learning about things, it 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 8: would be that relation. 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 6: To the Indianapolis five hundred mile race. 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 8: But this is the week of the Brickyard four hundred 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 8: and NASCAR at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. As a matter 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 8: of fact, tomorrow everything will get underway in terms of 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 8: the Hauler Parade and all of the events that take place, 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 8: with practice on Friday and qualifying on Saturday, racing in 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 8: the Exfinity Series on Saturday, the race for the Brickyard 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 8: four hundred on Sunday. We'll get the schedule for everything 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 8: in more finite detail coming up at the bottom of 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 8: the hour. But first let me welcome in the man 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 8: who is kind of the brains of the operation, and 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 8: that is not necessarily the biggest challenge when the only other. 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 6: Brain involved would be mine. 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 8: But Mike Thompson is the guy that puts together everything 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 8: in terms of beyond the bricks of the ideas of 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 8: what we talk about and cross breeding both from the 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 8: NASCAR side and IndyCar open wheel racing history side, and 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 8: he is the audio archivist, if you will, of the 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 8: Indianapolis Motor speed Mike Tonight. This is going to be 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 8: a fun one because we get to talk about somebody 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 8: that I think is one of the more fun personalities 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 8: and larger than life personalities at his time, during the 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 8: time that he was driving at the speedway. 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, he was definitely a larger than life personality, one 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: of the most charismatic. 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: People you'd ever want to meet. 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that a little bit later, because I 47 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: got to meet him on a couple of occasions and 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: really definitely one of the most charismatic people in the 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: history of racing as far as I'm concerned. 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 8: We're talking about a guy that and it was just 51 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 8: last year, as a matter of fact, that I was 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 8: at the midd Ohio sports Car Course. Of course, that 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 8: is essentially Mike's home track, and I have a friend 54 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 8: that lives in Cleveland. Of course, midd Ohio sports Car 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 8: Course for those that are unfamiliar, is in essentially Lexington, Ohio, 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 8: Steam's Corners if you want to get really technical, but 57 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 8: just about oh, I don't know, maybe forty five minutes 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 8: to an hour north of Columbus and a little bit 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 8: to the southwest of Cleveland. And so my buddy from 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 8: Cleveland we met for dinner for the night and decided 61 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 8: that the closest place I believe it's Ashland, Ohio. Am 62 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 8: I correct in saying Ashland, Ohio? Mike, That's correct, Ashland, Ohio. 63 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 8: That's where the person we're talking about tonight is from. 64 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 6: Correct. 65 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 8: So we're having dinner and I said, hey, so what's 66 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 8: the you know, other than being a meeting point that 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 8: is convenient for the two of us. Let's look up 68 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 8: the history of Ashland, and in doing so I very 69 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 8: quickly learned that not only was the hometown of but 70 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 8: the final resting place of where we went and paid 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 8: our respects to Tim Richmond, who is somebody who drove 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 8: essentially Mike. The easiest way to say it is if 73 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 8: you look at the time period in which Tim Richmond 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 8: was racing, and we're talking late seventies into the early eighties. 75 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 8: He was a guy that not only from a personality standpoint, 76 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 8: was larger than life, but also was willing and capable 77 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 8: of racing just about anything if it had a steering wheel, 78 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 8: steering wheel and four wheels, no matter the series it was, USAK, 79 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 8: whether it was NASCAR, whether it was Open wheel, he 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 8: could run and would run just about anything. 81 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, he know he ran USAK. People don't 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: really remember the fact he ran USACK races. You know, 83 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: he was running on the dirt and things like that. 84 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean he ran a series called Mini Indie at 85 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: one point, so you know, you're right he was. He 86 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: was running everything he could get, you know, anytime he 87 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: could get a ride, he was moving up the ranks, 88 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: and he he was one of those guys that you know, 89 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: they call it, I guess a shooting star, because you know, 90 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: it felt like he kind of came out of nowhere 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: and became this you know, meteoric rise and and just 92 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: just really became an instant star in racing. 93 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 8: And when you look at his overall, as you had 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 8: talked about, kind of that meteoric rise where all of 95 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 8: a sudden, and sometimes this happens where you have a 96 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 8: driver that hits the scene, you hear things mentioned and 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 8: then all of a sudden, before you know it, everywhere 98 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 8: you turn around, you are seeing stories of or hearing 99 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 8: stories about their accomplishments. Tim Richmond was born in June 100 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 8: of nineteen fifty five in Ashland, Ohio, and as you 101 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 8: had talk about, by the time he got to Indianapolis, 102 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 8: he was not yet twenty five years old running in 103 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 8: the nineteen eighty Indianapolis five in a mile race that 104 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 8: was his rookie campaign, and especially in a time period 105 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 8: when you look at it where you know, clearly back 106 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 8: in the early eighties you were talking about a number 107 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 8: of entrants for the Indianapolis five hundred, a number of 108 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 8: cars and quality drivers that did not even make the 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 8: show back in those days. But that was not the 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 8: case for Tim Richmond. When he showed up and showed 111 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 8: up with his Penske Cosworth back in nineteen eighty, he 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 8: was immediately one who showed that he had speed. Now, 113 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 8: this is from May ninth of nineteen eighty. What you're 114 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 8: about to hear. This is Lou Palmer, who himself would 115 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 8: later go on to become the chief announcer of the 116 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 8: Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio network. With his track report of 117 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 8: track activity for that first third of the month in 118 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 8: May of nineteen eighty. 119 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: At the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, go to a rookie. Well, 120 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: certainly the odds were against it until the final hour 121 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: of practice on a Friday, when Tim Richmond showed everybody 122 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: else how fast you could go one hundred ninety three 123 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: and a half miles an hour a rookie in car 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: number twenty one. Some changes in the offing, too, it 125 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: would appear Johnny Rutherford and aj Foyd out in the 126 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: cars that carried the t or backup they could well 127 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: become primary. Rutherford runs at one hundred and ninety three 128 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: point double oh nine and point with the Cosworth engine 129 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: at one hundred ninety two and a half miles an hour. 130 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Others were going well. We had Spike Gelhausen at one 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety one nine and then an entire team 132 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: moving up well above one hundred and ninety miles an hour, 133 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: with Rick Mears leading away, fuddled by Mario Andretti and 134 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Bobby Unser those cars for the Penske team, Danny on 135 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Gaias very late in the day finally achieving as well 136 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety point nine miles an hour, others 137 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: attempting to run up and with an hour and a 138 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: half practice on a Saturday before we go qualifying, while 139 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: other people who could be there might include Johnny Parsons, 140 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: Tom Sneve, Poncho Carter, Tom Bagley, Jerry Sneve finding at 141 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: another area of speed the beginnings of a breakthrough, and 142 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: Al Unser finally seeming to get it sorted out and 143 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: moving to one hundred and eighty eight miles an hour 144 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: in a brand new ground effects car. Gordon john Cock 145 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: trouble but cleared to run now the fracture should not 146 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: interfere so he could get qualified. Sheldon Kinser, who had 147 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: a car on the wall earlier in the week back 148 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: out on the track in Carniber twenty four, it stayed 149 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: together and then the incident of the afternoon came, and 150 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: not seriously so when Carniber nineteen, being piloted by Dana Carter, 151 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: got into a spin again at the south end of 152 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: the track but made no wall contact. Some progress made 153 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: in terms of finding rights. Gary Bettenhausen was out in 154 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: one of Sherman Armstrong's car number forty six. John Mayler 155 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: finally made an appearance in car ninety two, and Rich 156 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Boegler also in car fifty. But he still has some 157 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: laps to run to complete a driver's test, so does 158 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: Ron Schumann, so does Bill Whittington. 159 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 6: For them, it's a weekend wait before they. 160 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: Can run the test to completion and then try to 161 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: qualify on the final weekend and again at the top 162 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: of the line on the final full day of practice 163 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: before poll day qualifications. Tim Richmond, a rookie at one 164 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: hundred ninety three point five oh seven miles an. 165 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 8: Hour the poll in nineteen eighty and the win for 166 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 8: that matter would go to Johnny Rutherford, who would become 167 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 8: a key figure within the story of Tim Richmond. More 168 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 8: on that in a minute. But as for qualifying for 169 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 8: Richmond himself, you heard Lou Palmer say he was a 170 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 8: legitimate threat to start up front, but it was a 171 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 8: crash in qualifying that would then cause a setback in 172 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 8: trying to put the car that he would ultimately put 173 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 8: into the field back together again. And as Tim Richmond 174 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 8: talked about with Jackie Stewart, that effort and that new 175 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 8: curveball did create some challenges for the rookie. 176 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 9: It's been a tumultious month for Tim Richmond. Tim, this 177 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 9: must be the biggest month that's. 178 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 10: Ever happened to you. 179 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 4: I'll tell you, Jackie a couple weeks ago it was 180 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: probit of the best week in my life in the 181 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: worst all in seven days right there. You know, we 182 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 4: ran as fast as we did and we kind of 183 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: crashed the car, But now the cruising a fantastic. God, 184 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: we're we're backady to run the race. So I'll tell 185 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: you it's been really fantastic for me. 186 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 9: I'd have to observe as a race driver right now 187 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 9: in your career year sort of all bright eyed and 188 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 9: ritchy tales. I mean, it must be like a bodler 189 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 9: Champee being open for you because you're all bubbling through 190 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 9: the light. 191 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I am, And I don't know what to say. 192 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: I just it's all news for me. 193 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 4: You do things like this right here, and I don't know, 194 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: it's amazing and I really appreciate, you know, the fact 195 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: that I've been able to be able to come here 196 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: and have a chance to do what we've done. And 197 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: I hope I go many years. 198 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: And you know, it's interesting, Mike. 199 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 8: We mentioned Johnny Ruttherford in that nineteen eighty race and 200 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 8: Tim Richmond as well, and one of the most iconic 201 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 8: moments of the nineteen eighty eighty five hundred, of course, 202 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 8: happened at the end of the race as Johnny Ruttherford 203 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 8: is doing his victory lap and Tim Richmond runs out 204 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 8: of fuel. It led to one of the most memorable 205 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 8: moments of the eighties at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. 206 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 10: In the ball I think it must have been concentration 207 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 10: or something. 208 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 11: But there's a man who's very happy in the year 209 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 11: Johnny Runner waiting to everyone already seems to thinking he's 210 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 11: driving K Yes, yes, the workman is show. 211 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 12: He's away of other stuff. 212 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: Apparently Keevy showing ready, he said, tack, putting to her 213 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: white back. 214 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 11: He's waiting till we're talking about you know, a joy 215 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 11: was talking about a taxi samers. 216 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: It was expensive when you could find the pel. 217 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 13: So come up, you know, tell us how the way 218 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 13: I'm gonna go this year? 219 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: Or he may be the oncoming a j point in 220 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: that way all the month of la. 221 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 6: This rookie at age twenty four, he's always with the 222 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 6: figure five finish here. 223 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 14: You imagine he'll be the rookie. 224 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 15: Of the year. 225 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 12: Well, he's getting his mind and this might be Jeddy 226 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 12: to Fickly simple. 227 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 11: Prematurely. 228 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 16: Brother good do we enjoy it just as much? 229 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 13: And so of them shaking him and he's lifting to 230 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 13: hang him. 231 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 11: Tony's runners for nothing, pointing number money's running to young Tim. 232 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 11: He was looking form for, not Wendy. 233 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 17: We the crowd got all they could. 234 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 4: Have asked for today. 235 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 13: Magneficit racing, no serious injuries, some spectacular sights deceive and 236 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 13: bury worthy winner in Johnny Leatherber of fourth Worth. 237 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 6: Texas at age forty two. An iconic moment. 238 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 8: Indeed, Jim McKay on the call there along with Jackie 239 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 8: Stewart as Tim Richmond just got out of his car 240 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 8: hopped on the side pot of Johnny whatth Theford, and 241 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 8: Johnny Rutford said, go ahead and I'll take you to 242 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 8: the area where Victory Lane is, as Johnny Rutford celebrated 243 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 8: his win and Tim Richmond celebrated a top ten finished 244 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 8: ninth in that nineteen eighty Indianapolis five hundred. Tim Richmond 245 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 8: and Johnny Rutherford later would talk about that iconic moment. 246 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: You know, it's amazing how many people in that situation, 247 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 4: Brotherford and I going to Victory Lane together, how many 248 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 4: people thought that was a planned, you know, premeditated situation there, 249 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 4: and in fact it wasn't. You know, I ran out 250 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 4: of fuel. Believe me, if if I would have not 251 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: tried to run out of fuel, and because I would 252 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: have finished probably fifth, I guess, instead of ninth. But 253 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: now I was talking to the crowd, you know, waving 254 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 4: and stuff and having. 255 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 15: A good time, and JR. 256 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 6: Drove behind me and. 257 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 4: I didn't even see him. And I was going to 258 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 4: the crowd and they were going, you know, like they 259 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: were going look over here, and I looked to my 260 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: left and there was Rutherford, and you know he I 261 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 4: could just see his hand in their motion and me, 262 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: come on, come on, and I ran after the car, 263 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 4: and you know, those things were pretty fragile at the time, 264 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 4: the sidepods and said, I said. 265 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 6: Right here, and he said, yeah, get on. 266 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: So I got on, and you know, I knew he'd 267 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 4: won the thing, and he said, where's the phinish And 268 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: I said, I don't know. I was kind of like 269 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: a joke. I said, where'd you finish that? I said 270 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 4: that you did win it? 271 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 6: He said yeah. 272 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: And so then I held his hand up, and. 273 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: You know, I was a little embarrassed at being holding 274 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 4: the number one sign up because I was doing it 275 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: for him. So I held the number one up and 276 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 4: pointed to his helmet, and you know, it's not bad 277 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 4: to go to Victory Lane, either in a car or 278 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 4: on a car to Indianapolis. 279 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 18: He came running over and he's you know, he's patted 280 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 18: me on the show. 281 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 15: It's a nice shop. 282 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: And I said, thank you, get on. He says what 283 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: I said, get on, I'll give you a ride. 284 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 6: He said, oh okay. 285 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 10: So he sat down on the on the sidepod and. 286 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: Hung on the roll bar and I took him to 287 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: Victory Lane, and I had always hoped that that he 288 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: was sick. 289 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 12: With IndyCar racing and maybe win Indianapolis. 290 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 10: So I could always tell people that I gave him 291 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 10: his first ride to Victory Lane. 292 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 8: Pretty good stuff, Mike, And obviously one that you know, 293 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 8: Johnny Rutherford, I think has enjoyed that story over the 294 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 8: years as much as you know Tim Richmond, who is 295 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 8: no longer with us, but certainly fans in general just 296 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 8: in reliving that, I've always got the impression of Johnny 297 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 8: Rutherford got to kick out of that story as well. 298 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: Oh. 299 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 300 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: And one of the things about that race, I mean, 301 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: let's not forget. I mean, it was pretty much a 302 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: foregone conclusion that if the Chaparral didn't break down, Johnny 303 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: Rutherford was going to win that race. He was the 304 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: class of the field. And so that's the memorable moment 305 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: from that race is Johnny Rutherford. In fact, the painting 306 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: that they did every year for the race is those two. 307 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: You know, they called it the Champ and the Rookie, 308 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: and it's those two riding toward Victory Lane. And that's 309 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: the memorable moment of the races came after the race. 310 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: So I think Johnny has always enjoyed that moment, and 311 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: you could tell Tim Richmond enjoyed that moment as well. 312 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 8: Richmond would only go on to run nine championship level 313 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 8: races in IndyCar and a huge crash at Michigan later 314 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 8: in that nineteen eighty seven or excuse me nineteen eighty 315 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 8: season obviously played I think a part in his decision 316 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 8: to step away and get out of IndyCars. 317 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you the nickname that I when I 318 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: first went to Indianapolis was Captain Quick, and then it 319 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: soon became Captain Crunch, And I mean, honestly, I liked 320 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: the way my feet were porny. 321 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 8: See again, the sense of humor, Mike from Tim Richmond. 322 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 8: That's the reason why he became such an engaging personality. 323 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 324 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: I mean he was the life of the party at 325 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: all the different things he was involved with, and he 326 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: was very quick with a joke, and he was The 327 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: thing I liked about Tim Richmond is everybody was Tim 328 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: Richmond's friend. I mean, you didn't have to know him, 329 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: and I'll talk about that later in the show. You 330 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: didn't really have to know him, but he made you 331 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: feel like he was a friend of yours, you know, 332 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: So we'll talk about that a little later in the show. 333 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: But that's just the kind of guy he was. 334 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 8: Speedway history in Emeritis. Donald Davidson on Tim Richmond's short 335 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 8: career in Indianapolis IndyCar racing. 336 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 10: Basically at Indianapolis he had two starts nineteen eighty and 337 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 10: eighty one, and he was from Ashland Over and drove 338 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 10: USAC sprint cars and in fact it was a division 339 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 10: called Mini Indie for a short time, which was basically 340 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 10: supervis and he won one of those, and I think 341 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 10: that was like seventy eight or seventy nine. But he 342 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 10: was also and that's you know, rearrangine cars and small 343 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 10: rearrangine cars. But he was also drove sprints quite successfully, 344 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 10: and I remember him around quite a bit in seventy 345 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 10: eight and seventy nine, and in seventy nine he pulled 346 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 10: a bit of a coupe. I remember that he went 347 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 10: to the five hundred victory banquet. Now he had not 348 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 10: had a ride for the five hundred yet, but he 349 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 10: went to the victory banquet and his date were the 350 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 10: three Hears girls. It was Linda Vaughan and I think 351 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 10: June Cark and I don't remember who the third one was, 352 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 10: and I thought, boy, is that guy an operator? He's 353 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 10: showing up with the three Hears girls. There's his date 354 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 10: and hasn't even been in the race yet. Well, he 355 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 10: was a very refreshing newcomer in nineteen eighty and drove 356 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 10: for team. Actually, I think the team was underwritten by 357 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 10: his father. 358 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 8: When we come back more on the career of Tim 359 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 8: Richmond and transitioning as this show is kind of doing 360 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 8: from IndyCar into NASCAR and the Cup side of things, 361 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 8: as we look back at one of the most gregarious 362 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 8: personalities of the early eighties, Tim Richman. On this edition 363 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 8: of Beyond the Break. 364 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 6: Jesus, he's the Bet three six' five command. 365 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 7: Center get your race updates here all month long and 366 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 7: make sure to enter for your chance to win five 367 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 7: hundred dollars by predicting the winner of this year's. Race 368 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 7: On july twenty, seventh go to one oh seven five 369 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 7: fan dot com to Winter, now here's your twenty twenty 370 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 7: five race, update brought to you By bet three six Five. 371 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 6: And that race update is pretty. Simple it is. 372 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 8: Here the time is upon us Because thursday five until, 373 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 8: seven you've had that marked on the calendar for a 374 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 8: while and here we are on the doorstep of. It 375 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 8: it is The Haller parade for The brickyard four hundred 376 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 8: at The Indianapolis Motor. 377 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 6: Speedway as the haulers will work their way. 378 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 8: From five until seven pm Down Main street And speedway 379 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 8: into The Indianapolis Motor. Speedway there will be a lot 380 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 8: of activity and celebration going on with, that And Justin, Haley, Todd, 381 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 8: Gillovan Riley, Herbs Tyler redick all. 382 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 6: Will be making appearances. 383 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 8: There so you can see those four drivers all part 384 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 8: of The Haller parade coming up five until seven. O'clock 385 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 8: then On, friday the gates we'll open at ten o'clock 386 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 8: practice sessions For exfinity and FOR nascar as. Well by 387 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 8: the way six thirty Pm thursday, NIGHT i should have 388 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 8: mentioned there's going to BE usack racing at The Indianapolis Motor. 389 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 8: Speedway saturday is qualifying day with everything setting the stage 390 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 8: for the afternoon session of The pennzoil two fifty Four, 391 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 8: exfinity and then it is two o'clock On sunday the 392 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 8: running at The Indianapolis Motor speedway of The brickyard four. 393 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 7: Hundred this is beyond The, bricks brought to you By 394 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 7: Quality supply And Tool think outside The box store on 395 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 7: ninety three to five and one oh seven five the. 396 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 6: Fan, Hi I'm. 397 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 19: Tim richmond and this is an original poster of My 398 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 19: indianapolis five hundred career created by racing Artist Ron. Verton 399 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 19: this poster is now available for five dollars at your 400 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 19: Forty Guarantee. 401 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: Auto stores Throughout. 402 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 19: INDIANA i hope you will follow my racing progress Throughout 403 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 19: may AS i drive A Guarantee AUTO wttv special in 404 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 19: this Year's indianapolis five. Hundred the greatest spectacle in racing. 405 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 8: There would be a very famous racing poster Involving Tim 406 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 8: richmond that falls into the category of if you, know you. 407 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 8: Know but we're talking About Tim Richmond tonight and his 408 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 8: short career in IndyCar transitioning over to cup. Cars and 409 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 8: in addition to, that anytime that you can hear a 410 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 8: retro ad FOR Wttv, Cowboy bob And janey and the 411 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 8: rest of them In, indianapolis it is pretty. Awesome Jake 412 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 8: querry along With Mike Thompson lane in tuns editing everything 413 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 8: together for. Us tonight And, mike let's talk about that 414 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 8: transition now For Tim richmond in the nineteen eighty and eighty, 415 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 8: one eighty five hundred and then crossing over and now 416 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 8: we get into where the legend really continued to. Grow 417 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 8: talking about his cup car side of, THINGS i just. 418 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: Want to point OUT i have one of those posters 419 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: at my house with my palatial estate as you call 420 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: it In. 421 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 6: Ohio but, yeah. 422 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: Those posters are pretty, cool by the, Way but, yeah 423 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: what's cool Is Tim richmond actually had us some struggles 424 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: in eighty one trying to make the, race actually had 425 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: to buy a car from Aj foyd to get him 426 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: in the race in eighty, one and so there's a 427 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: lot more of a struggle in eighty one than it 428 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: was in eighty for. Him so then in the summer 429 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: of eighty he had actually started running Some cup, races 430 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: SOME nascar, races and he with Dk ulrick for a, 431 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: while long TIME nascar, competitor and then he switched over 432 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: actually to the people REMEMBER J. 433 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: D stacy's team AND Jd. STACEY. Jd stacey was a guy. 434 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: Who at one point seemed like he owned most of 435 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: THE nascar Great he had like nine different cars at 436 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: one point it seemed like he had a lot of 437 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 3: different different cars and on the, grid kind of like 438 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: the people might remember The scandia team in the EARLY 439 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: irl days. 440 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: Seemed like they had a bunch of the field as. 441 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: Well BUT. 442 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: Jd stacey had a bunch of, cars And Tim richmond 443 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: drove at one point FOR. J. D stacy After Mark 444 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: martin left the, team And Tim richmond won his first 445 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: two races IN nascar FOR. Jd, stacey and then he 446 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: ended up moving over To Raymond beatle his, Team Raymond, 447 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 3: beadle the famous The Blue Max, guy and he picked 448 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: up some a couple more wins there in the Old 449 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: Milwaukee pontiac and he was really starting to make a 450 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: name for himself and IN, nascar and that was kind 451 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: of he never looked back and never looked back at 452 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: coming back To, IndyCars because he was really making a 453 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 3: name for himself A nascar at that, point and he. 454 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 8: Also was making a name for himself when opportunity would 455 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 8: present itself as again that, charisma that colorful character and 456 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 8: the sense of humor and just the overall gregarious nature 457 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 8: Of Tim. Richmond for, example when he had an engine 458 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 8: failure At michigan and decided to take the opportunity to 459 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 8: well just kind of become a, commentator if you. 460 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 4: Will we have a. 461 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 6: Radio hookup With Tim. 462 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 20: Richmond we'll try to see if we can make radio 463 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 20: contact with him and find out what. 464 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 16: Happened, tim this Is Larry nuber up ON esvpn. Control 465 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 16: do you know exactly what? Happened, TIM, a not, Really. 466 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 12: Larry i'm like going the bottom end of the thing 467 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 12: here before we put in the turn one there and 468 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 12: they let go and luckily we kever in one direction. 469 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 12: There it didn't hold and get on a rear. Tire 470 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 12: So i'm in a motor. 471 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: AGO i can't say what it, wanted. 472 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 16: THOUGH a tremendous amount of smoke even in the car 473 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 16: as you came around turn number two and down the 474 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 16: backstretch was vision a, Problem, TIM. 475 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 21: I it wasn't really a. 476 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 12: Problem, well not all aria was inside the. CARPET i 477 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 12: can still see, OUTSIDE i, Know and the main problem 478 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 12: was just keeping a car straight going. 479 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 21: In when it came out to the bottom. End it 480 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 21: tried to. 481 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 12: Tried to get the car loose on the rear, tires 482 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 12: but luckily we made. 483 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 22: It, unfortunately we're going back behind the. 484 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 12: Wall here and probably won't be back out for. 485 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 16: Today well thanks a, Lot, tim a tough, break and 486 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 16: you know you've won a lot of racists recently and 487 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 16: a lot of different kinds of, racetracks SO i know 488 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 16: this is a major. 489 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 8: Disappointment pretty good stuff from inside the cockpit in terms 490 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 8: of being able to give good insight as to not 491 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 8: only what his car was, feeling but also what was 492 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 8: happening to his, car but when it would come for 493 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 8: the opportunity For Tim richmond also to just simply have. 494 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 8: Fun we have seen plenty of times where rain delays 495 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 8: have been an opportunity or just broadcast delays in general 496 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 8: for us to get to know drivers a little. Better 497 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 8: that certainly was the case With Tim richmond during one 498 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 8: rain delay with a very young by the way Jack. 499 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 20: Route, well what do race drivers do when it's. Raining 500 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 20: let's find out as we go down to the pit 501 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 20: area And jackie your, Route. 502 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 15: Bob one of the things that race drivers like to 503 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 15: do and the rain delay is pretend that THEY'RE tv. 504 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 15: Commentators And Tim richmond has really gone one step. Further 505 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 15: he has members of his crew all over this racetrack 506 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 15: and they've been playing our parts throughout this rain. Delay, 507 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 15: tim we understand you're all hooked up on the. Radio 508 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 15: do you want to introduce your? 509 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 14: Crew, WELL i wouldn't mind doing. 510 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 4: That for some reason got. Started everybody just left their 511 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: radios and headgear. ON i took my helmet off and 512 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: one of the guys gave me. Theirs and we've just 513 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 4: been sitting here actually pretending like radio, personalities talking about the, 514 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 4: weather going back and reports. 515 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 3: And having interviews up and down the pit. 516 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: Road and right Now i'd like to go to with 517 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: my radio to Our turn four location With Larry, nuber 518 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: who's A tv. Personality let's turn around, Here Larry, neuber you. 519 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 22: Have a, report a weather report. Down it's turned four for. 520 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 22: Us he's out in these location. There could you come 521 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 22: on check it out? 522 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 6: Forth Leaders, Ma. 523 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 12: Larry duborn here And i'm here and it is. 524 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 15: Raining i'm helping. 525 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 12: You i'm glad to be here when it is finn 526 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 12: and the rain is coming. 527 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 22: Down BUT i hope we can get this race. 528 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 18: In. 529 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 12: Uh we have men stationed all over the. 530 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: Train it's really win but the clouds are blowing away 531 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: AND i think we'll maybe. 532 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 12: Able to get this race. 533 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: In. 534 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 22: Really thank you very, Much, May and now we're gonna 535 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 22: go over car in car. Reporter, Uh Bob jackings over 536 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 22: here inside our? Car can we can we can we 537 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 22: turn over here and take a, look go ahead and 538 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 22: get a shot of the. 539 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 21: Car? Uh, okay could you give us a? 540 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 22: Report? There pop tickets inside the? Car could you raise 541 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 22: your flat? Please? 542 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 7: Okay in here back. 543 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 9: Here, now thank you very. 544 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 12: Much, uh this is what kind of fun we've been. 545 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 4: Having uh while the rain's going on here And i'm getting, 546 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: wet and uh how about? 547 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: You uh, YEAH i. 548 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 3: Want you to report, here damn rach when this Is Benny. 549 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 6: Parsons do you hear? 550 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 22: Me, yes, Sir, benny go, Ahead i'm. 551 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: Listening, well you, know if they start this, race there's 552 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: no way in the world you're gonna be of races 553 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: or you're having too much Fund. 554 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: Michael plug him in now and recharge of my. 555 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 15: Home well that's the story from down here in a 556 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 15: very wet pit. Road one Thing i'm sure of, Though, 557 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 15: BOB i don't want to be a race car. 558 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 20: Driver, yeah it's too bad that we can't retaliate and 559 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 20: pretend like we're race. 560 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: Drivers oh, wow those guys are really having. 561 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 6: Fun they, are and you can see it right. There mike. 562 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 8: Obviously first, Off jackie Of, ROUTE i love, that but 563 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 8: just the, overall you, know, fun sense of humor and 564 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 8: creativity Of Tim. Richmond clearly you understand why he became 565 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 8: a fan. 566 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 6: Favorite, oh no doubt about. 567 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: It WHAT i liked about that clip especially Is Larry 568 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: nuber was From, Mammy, ohio which is a suburb Of, 569 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: toledo AND i used to live In, Mammee, Ohio and 570 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: nobody From, Mammy ohio talks with that kind of. 571 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 6: Accent BUT i just thought that was a lot of. 572 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 3: Fun, so, uh just the creativity and the fun and 573 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 3: the fact that he was willing to get out there 574 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: and have a good time and just really he put 575 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: himself out there and was one of the guys and 576 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: just just really a fun loving guy With Tim richmond for, 577 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: sure and. 578 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 8: He obviously was right on the doorstep at that point 579 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 8: of a prolific career in period with In Cup, racing 580 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 8: because the personality in general and the talent would allow 581 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 8: him to land an opportunity With Rick Kendrick's powerhouse. Team 582 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 8: he would go on to win nine races in The 583 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 8: Folgers Coffee. Machine one of the strangest moments he had 584 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 8: was his in race interview At North. Wilkesboro this is 585 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 8: in nineteen eighty seven and he conducted an interview while. 586 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 8: Racing take a, Listen. 587 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 6: Tim, richman this is THE espn control you. 588 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 12: Reading, yeah go, AHEAD i got you, Out. 589 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: Claire what was wrong with the? 590 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 6: Card it again with. 591 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 21: Any better our lab. Rack we're gonna go, ahead all, Right, 592 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 21: Howard we're Barely ricardo. 593 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 23: Doing better, Now Tim, richmond disregarding the fact that the 594 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 23: green has come, out he is continuing to talk with 595 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 23: us and trying to explain the problem that he has. 596 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 20: Experienced hearing the early going office. 597 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 23: Race right, now he's Behind jeff fo, nine but that 598 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 23: car still just does not appeared to be handling all that. 599 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: Well i'm gonna tell, you. 600 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 7: Guys a rare glimpse into the psyche of a race. 601 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 16: Driver Tim richmond takes the green flag and keeps up 602 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 16: this conversation with, us racing two and three of press 603 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 16: awful way around this racetrack and trying to describe the 604 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 16: action for all. 605 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 6: Those views of, money that's most. 606 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: Impressive i'll tell you THAT i can't imagine it runs 607 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: a great flag lap off talking to. 608 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 8: It you also got an idea as just how loud 609 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 8: things were inside those cars back and that time. 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Condition they wanted him to reveal 662 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: that he HAD aids because they basically didn't want him 663 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: around and they wanted to out. Him and so they 664 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: concocted this drug test and said that he, had you, 665 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 3: know tested positive for. Drugs, well he hadn't tested positive for. 666 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: Drugs he tested. Posit if we're taking SUIT i fed an, 667 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: advil which are, legal you can buy them over the counter, 668 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: Obviously and so it was really unfortunate what, happened you, 669 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: know it was it was a ridiculous attempt to out his, 670 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: condition to be candid with, you and and it was 671 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 3: just it was just sad all, around you, KNOW i 672 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: mean the way it was, handled you, know BY. NASCAR 673 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 3: i think they admitted later that they should have handled it. 674 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: Differently but as you, said there was a lot of, 675 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: paranoia but there were also a lot of THINGS i 676 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: think we need to take from it that were there 677 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: were people that were In tim's corner that were really 678 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: good to, him people Like Kyle, petty people Like Dale 679 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: earnhardt who would always sit with him at the driver's 680 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: meeting and showed that they weren't afraid to sit With 681 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: Tim richmond because people knew that there was something, wrong 682 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: and people knew that he had something that was going. 683 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: On but you know that always stood by, Him people 684 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: Like Kyle, petty people Like Dale, Earnhart they always stood by, 685 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: him and SO i, think you, know we can take 686 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: a lesson from the fact that those people were there 687 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: For Tim. 688 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 8: Richmond in nineteen eighty, Seven Tim richmond would have a 689 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 8: near fatal bout with double. Pneumonia he also won The 690 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 8: All Star race In, may and then he drove his 691 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 8: First Cup series race At Pocono raceway after that, illness 692 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 8: and despite the fact that his health was in, question 693 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 8: he won the. 694 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 6: Race it'll be white flag. 695 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 14: Next, Time. Hi when they come across the, Strip Harold 696 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 14: kinder will show them the white, flag which means there'll 697 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 14: be one more lap, remaining there's the flag final. Lap 698 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 14: this is the two hundredth revolution of this triangular shaped, 699 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 14: racetrack and right now the battle seems to be a 700 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 14: further back as. 701 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 5: Well you get a look at that one hundred and 702 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 5: seventy Mile Prior congo line down that. Frustraightaway it's seven 703 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 5: tenths of a. Mile richmond leads the, Way elliott has 704 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 5: less than two. Miles the trottle really, man but It's 705 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 5: Tim richmond by seven karlings further. 706 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 14: Back Kyle penny is still in, Third Cale yarborough. Fourth 707 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 14: the battle behind That, Earnhardt Bobby allison And ricky run 708 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 14: in that. Order There's elliott and there you see the 709 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 14: difference as they work the shorts huge heading across the 710 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 14: tunnel towards turn number. 711 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 6: Three Tim richmond's got to be grabbing that. 712 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 5: Steerwheel white knuckle has the foot planted firmly on the, 713 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 5: floorboard holding it wide. 714 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 6: Open there's a look At, richmond thirty two years of. 715 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 5: Age could the comeback be completely? Lie could he take 716 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 5: a checkered flag and win? It what a tearful celebration 717 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 5: that's gonna. Be richmond less than a half. 718 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 21: A mile from. 719 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 14: Victory if he, wins it would be the third straight 720 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 14: victory for. Him here At, pokano the crowd Waving richmond 721 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 14: with a hand out of the window And Tim richmond 722 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 14: has picked up the victory and The miller highlight five. 723 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 14: Hundred here At, Pocono Bill elliot a, Second Kyle pitty, 724 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 14: Third Kao garborough is. Fourth let's See ehnheit now across 725 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 14: the line to finish, fifth ahead Of Bobby allison And Ricky. 726 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 17: Right, Whatever very Happy Tim richmond with A cinderella story 727 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 17: in A cinderella, Indiings, tim and you have to be 728 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 17: happy with what happened. There did you ever really think 729 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 17: that this could be possible with everything that's? 730 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 6: Happened, well, YEAH i did you? 731 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: Know it's uh feeling need for? 732 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 6: Speed, huh. 733 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 10: Thanks, Herry, YEAH i really. 734 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 17: Did you? 735 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 4: Know when you've got this good equipment sitting under, you 736 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: you know that layoff it was, Devastating but you KNOW 737 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: i didn't lose ANY i thought about it every, day 738 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 4: WHAT i would do WHEN i come. 739 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 15: Back SO i wasn't THAT i. 740 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 6: Forgot how to drive a race. 741 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 4: Car it resist AND i take my time and a 742 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: few turns in the road there to make SURE i 743 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: was doing the right, thing and they wanted. 744 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 10: To you, know it was All it was all back to. 745 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 4: Me if somebody asked me on the way to the, 746 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 4: car WHAT i felt about a wind, today AND i 747 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 4: thought it was one hundred. 748 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 3: PERCENT i thought there. 749 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 8: Was Tim richmond would win again the next week At, 750 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 8: riverside but by the end of the summer he was 751 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 8: out of a race car for. Good And, mike you 752 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 8: got a chance to talk To Tim richmond at his 753 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 8: FINAL nascar, race, Correct. 754 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah it was kind of an interesting. 755 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: Deal my uncle got me pit passes for The michigan 756 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: Second michigan race that, year AND i was only, seventeen 757 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: SO i was breaking the rules. Unfortunately BUT i looked 758 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 3: a lot old there BECAUSE i was six six AND 759 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 3: i was seventeen years, old SO i could pass as 760 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: being eighteen years. Old so my uncle had pitt passes 761 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 3: Through champion Spark plug AND i was standing there and 762 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 3: on qualifying day and qualifying was going, on AND i 763 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: was just kind of standing there near the media center 764 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: under they had a little overhang, there AND i WAS 765 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 3: i was just kind of standing there And Tim richmond came, 766 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 3: RUNNING i mean just, running sprinting out and he, said 767 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: is qualifying going? On AND i, said, YEAH i said, 768 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: it AND i, SAID i THINK i think your spot 769 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: was already. Gone and he went sprinting down there and 770 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 3: he had missed his, spot he had. Overslept and then 771 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 3: he came walking back after he found out that he 772 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 3: had missed a, spot and he came up to me 773 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: and he just started talking to me and he, said, 774 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 3: YEAH i, overslept missed my, spot and just started talking 775 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 3: to me as if we were like best. Friends and 776 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 3: he talked for five or six minutes and just made 777 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: me feel LIKE i was like in his kind of 778 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 3: in his inner, circle you, know because you, KNOW I 779 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 3: i had been friendly to him a few minutes before, 780 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: that AND i don't know if it was just a 781 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: situation where because you, know he was, dying you, know 782 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: he was dying of this, disease and you know somebody 783 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 3: had been nice to him that that he kind of 784 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 3: took me in for a few minutes, there and it 785 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 3: really meant a lot to. Me it still chokes me 786 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: up a little bit thinking about, it BECAUSE i didn't 787 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 3: know at the time he was. Dying, obviously we didn't 788 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 3: know that he you, know had aids or. 789 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: Anything like. 790 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 3: That but you, know he he treated me LIKE i 791 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 3: was one of his best friends for, five six ten, 792 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 3: minutes you, know and just stood there talking to me 793 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: about racing and and just was super friendly to. 794 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: Me AND. 795 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: I actually had a picture of him with, me AND 796 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 3: i had him sign a picture and he, wrote. 797 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: You know To, mike you, know best, Wishes Tim. 798 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 3: RICHMOND i still have, it and it just it just 799 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: meant a lot to me to have that few minutes with, 800 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: him and you, know it just it's SOMETHING i REALLY i. 801 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 3: Cherish AND i actually told this. Story we had a 802 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: poker night At Dick jorden's, house the Late Dick jordan's, 803 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 3: house AND i actually got to tell this story To Cody, 804 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 3: swanson The, great The GREAT U sect, driver AND i 805 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: told him this story and he was, like you got 806 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 3: to Meet Tim, richmond tell me all about, it you, 807 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: Know and it just it still, RESONATES i, guess is 808 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 3: What i'm trying to say to this, day that The 809 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 3: Tim richmond's such a magical name in, racing And Cody, 810 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 3: swanson you, know who's done. EVERYTHING i, mean IF i 811 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: had a million dollars or two million dollars AND i, 812 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 3: could you, know buy somebody into The indianapolis five. Hundred 813 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 3: Cody swanson to be probably my first, choice BECAUSE i, 814 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 3: MEAN i think he's a great talent And i'd love 815 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 3: to see. Him you, know he's it's just a to 816 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 3: See Cody swanson's face light. Up he's, like you Met Tim. 817 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 3: Richmond tell me all about, it you, know it just 818 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 3: it just tells you what an Impact Tim richmond had. 819 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 8: Well and of course you talked about the difficulties THAT 820 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 8: nascar had presented for him in nineteen eighty, eight and 821 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 8: even Though Tim richmond was in fact nearing the end 822 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 8: of his, life he still wanted to make a comeback IN, 823 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 8: nascar and he talked about that With Bob jenkins on 824 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 8: ESPN's Speed week in nineteen eighty. 825 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 20: Eight tim's style has always been, aggressive whether it be 826 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 20: in a race, car, professionally at play on a cigarette 827 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 20: vote on the, ocean or working out with weights and. 828 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 6: Aerobics a thrive on. 829 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 18: COMPETITION i, mean it's Like i'm addicted to. 830 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 20: Competition his competitive spirit meshed up well with the fatherly 831 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 20: guidance Of Harry. Hyde in nineteen eighty, six in a 832 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 20: team won seven of Seventeen Winston cup, events but after 833 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 20: the season. Concluded tim's competitiveness is drying to satisfy too 834 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 20: many commitments cost him his health a life threatening bout 835 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 20: of double. Pneumonia although he came back in eighty seven 836 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 20: and recorded two straight, victories his health was still not. 837 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 20: Good he resigned from The Rick hendrick team amidst rumors 838 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 20: of drug. Abuse some say those rumors led the NASCAR's 839 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 20: decision to implement a drug testing program for nineteen eighty. 840 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 2: Eight, tim do you have a drug? 841 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 4: Problem i'm, sorry but that question has been asked more 842 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 4: than once, here more than once by, everybody AND i 843 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 4: am not answering that. QUESTION I am going to let 844 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 4: the drug test In daytona. 845 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 3: Answer, it And nashcar can answer it for. 846 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 4: Y'all and if they don't answer it the right, way 847 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 4: Then i'll have my little bottle and there will be 848 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 4: another answer, there BECAUSE i KNOW i know whether it's 849 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 4: dirty or whether it's, clean and it is. 850 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 18: Clean you, know everybody talked About tim having some problems with. 851 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 18: Drugs tim was sick with the flu or the new 852 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 18: mownair of white and it got him down and they've 853 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 18: tried to prove drugs on, him and you know he's 854 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 18: taking drug tests and he's you, know he's been in the, 855 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 18: hospital and surely if he had been on, drugs it 856 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 18: would have came out when he went in the. Hospital. 857 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 18: Calls everybody in the hospital don't keep. Secrets SO i 858 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 18: don't feel Like tim was using. DRUGS i Think tim 859 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 18: had some other, problems and Hopefully tim can get his 860 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 18: problems worked. 861 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 9: Out and make a. 862 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 20: Comeback is your health such that you could run a 863 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 20: Full Winston cup? 864 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 4: Season the bottom line IS i. Don't i'm not. GOING 865 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 4: i won't ever come back unless the schedule changes and 866 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: run a full Blown Winston cup tour for The Winston Cup. 867 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 4: Championship winstump champion is very, important BUT i don't think 868 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 4: it's as important as is you, know enjoying myself and 869 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 4: the and the, time the time it takes to do. 870 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 18: THAT i. 871 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 4: Don't i'm not gonna do. THAT i mean this might sound, 872 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 4: corny BUT i MEAN i went to A halloween party 873 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 4: the other. NIGHT i, mean this has been back when 874 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 4: That i've Never i've never been to. IT I i 875 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 4: MEAN i dressed up with the mask on and got 876 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 4: all you, know crazed out there and uh. 877 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 18: And had a good. 878 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 4: Time i'm going To Bike week In. Daytona i've got 879 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 4: me a New. Harley I'm i'm gonna be there with you, 880 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 4: Know i'm. ENJOYING I i miss, racing but you know 881 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 4: there's some a lot of things because of RACING i. 882 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 2: Missed do you have any other goals in? 883 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 4: RACING i wanna go drag racing if that's the. Question 884 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 4: my my low lifelong, goal and this is not something that's, 885 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 4: new it's been a lifelong, goal was to be in 886 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 4: a fronty. CAR i, MEAN i very much respect those. 887 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 4: Guys unlike a lot of rounding around, guys they don't 888 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 4: think drag racing. 889 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 17: MUCH i. 890 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 4: Do, uh BUT i would really IF i got in 891 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 4: a funny, car my first choice would have the name 892 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 4: The Blue max on The Blue max on the side of. 893 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 3: It that's The Blue max is funny. 894 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 20: Cars of, Course tim used to drive A Raymond beadle In. 895 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 20: Winston copy says the two are talking about that funny, 896 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 20: car but nothing. Definite yet another. Thing Larry tim says 897 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 20: his main goal in life now is to get, married 898 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 20: settled down and have a. 899 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 8: Family, okay Bron, Sadly Tim richmond would pass away On 900 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 8: august thirteenth of nineteen eighty nine in the state Of. 901 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 8: Florida Tim, richmond who as we mentioned, earlier is now 902 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 8: resting In, Ashland, ohio his, hometown passed away at the 903 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 8: age of thirty. Four Rilanda, Goods Mike, Thompson I'm Jay. 904 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 8: Query thanks for helping us take a look back at 905 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 8: the Great Tim richmond on this episode Of beyond The. 906 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 6: Bricks